Season 1, Episode 11: "Pitching with Purpose w/ Jacob Cumley ⚾🔥

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Coach Matthew (00:00):
Welcome to the Kingdom guys.
So this is episode 11,Royal Vision Podcast.
I'm your host, coachMatthew got another very
special guest today.
He's a baseball playeroutta Spring Mills High
School and he plays forpost 60 Legion team as well.
He's been playing varsityfor the last three years.
Originally from Falling WatersMade First team all epac
his junior year and Allstatementioned his during his junior

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year, both while only playinghalf the season due to injury.
He just recently committed toFairmont State University and
he'll be pitching against HedgesV this upcoming Friday, May 2nd.
So without further ado,give it up for Jacob Ley.

(00:43):
Alright, good stuff.
How you doing man?
I'm doing good.
Good.
Glad to have you on here.
I'm excited.
So how long have youbeen playing baseball?

Jacob Cumley (00:56):
I started.
When I was three or four,so 14, 13 years now.

Okay.
Now, what was your feeder team?
Was it Ville or did youplay somewhere else?
I played in Ville.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So what drew you

to baseball?
When my mom, she played softballwhen she was in high school.
She was all Epecplayer of the year.
She was a really good pitcher.
She hurt herself Then.
She's a vet now.
She played in college.
She'd been playing her wholelife and she just put me in
baseball, put me in every sport,but baseball's one that stick.

(01:31):
All right,

So your mom's from the area.
What'd you go to?
Hedges war orsomething like that?
She went to Musman.
Musman, okay.
Is that kind of conconflicting A little bit?
I know muscle tends tobe a little, yeah, little

bit like the rest of my family's in Musclemen.
Okay.
So when they're always at thegames, they're cheering for
us to lose, but me to do good.

Yeah.
At least they're there.
Least they're there.
Yeah.
What do you feel like, whatfirst drew you to baseball?
What was like that momentwas like, this is my sport.
When I was little

I was just, I was pretty athletic kid.
So I just liked, 'cause Iwould do really good against
the other little kids.
So it was just the bestsport I was best at.
So it was most fun to me.
Because you are tall, so likeyou think like basketball,
but did that just never mesh?
No, I played basketball inrec league when I was like

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12 or something, but I wasbenched the whole time so
I didn't have much fun.

You got your two quarters and then you just come
on mom, look, it's time to go.
We got you.
So with baseball it'sgot a slower pace.
Yeah.
But you do pitch so you're ableto control the tempo, but what
about that pace do you like?

I guess all my life I've been like a
shortstop, third baseman.
Okay.
And it's just unpredictableand I just like that about it.
Like any second.
It could be quick play youhave to make, or you could
sit out there for the wholegame, not get a single ball.
I just like theunpredictability of it,

okay.
Not being able to knowwhat's coming next.
It's just, you're out there,you know you're gonna do well,
this is what's gonna happen.
You just gotta leaveit up into the hands of
fate, so with pitching,

what about, when did you start pitching?
I didn't really start pitchingthat much until really
freshman, sophomore year.

Okay.

So I've always been more of a
hitter and fielder first.

So when you translated to pitching, what
was it that kind of made youthat go-to guys as a pitcher?
I

just grew a lot.
Like freshman year I walked in.
I was a big good contact hitter.
I was like five foot,a hundred, 115 pounds.
But then sophomore yearI started growing a bit.
Junior year I hit a big growthspurt and then I just started
throwing hard and I figuredI might as well pitch now.
And I gave it a try andthen it was super fun.

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So then I just really focusedon my attention to that.

So with pitching, what do you feel
is the biggest differencebetween being a pitcher and
then just being a typicallike utility or field guy?
You just

have more control of the game and I love that.
Like I get a chance toplay every single pitch
every at batter and it'sjust the most like that.
And catcher, you justget the most action.
It's the most fun to me.

So you're like always engaged?
Yeah.
I gotcha.
What were some of the definingmoments earlier in your career
that shaped your mindset?

When I had a coach, Mark Smith.
He's taught me how to pitch andhe really helped my mindset.
I was a real, I had a bigattitude problem when I was
little and he helped me withthat and just understand
that I'm gonna fail.
And that's okay.
But just try and havemost fun as I can.

So was there like a moment earlier in your
career where you felt like youwere consistently failing but
you didn't let that stop you?

Yeah, I guess so.
Like my first year in LittleLeague I felt that coach
hated me 'cause I didn't play,but I just wasn't that good.
And then I learned from that,and then I go out the next year
and have fun and I do better.

So most kids, if they're not playing, they'll
either quit or they'll just sitaround and they'll complain.
Yeah.
What was the deciding factorfor you that was like, you
know what, I'm gonna just showup and try and get better?

My mom, she made me, she wouldn't let me quit.
My parents are big on ifyou sign up for something,
you have to do it evenif you don't like it.
And then she told me, if I wannaplay another year, go ahead.
And if I don't, thenI don't have to.
But I decided to sign upagain and then it's been
going good ever since.

Now did, when you were playing Little League,
did you ever make an team?
I know that's thebig thing down there.

Yeah, I went up when I was like nine in
Little League, but I didn'tmake it that year, but I
made it the other three.
The other three years whenI was, so the 10, 11, 12

year.
Okay.
What was it likeplaying all Stars?
I know you get that chanceto potentially playing the
Little League World series,which is every kid's dream.
Yeah.
What was that?
That was, what was that like?

I remember my 11 new year, that's when we
were pretty good and we got tolike the regional, we ended up
losing, but it was really fun.
It felt every game felt likeit was like the World Series.
Every game felt so huge.
It was so important.
And losing.
It sucked.
But yeah, it was, I forgotabout the next week.

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I was 12.
Who'd you guys end up losing to?
I think Jefferson, Iremember 'cause I think it
was surf hit two home runsor something, oh, so you've
been consistently playingagainst surf for a while?
No, it was justlike then and now.
'cause he played up'cause he was super good.
Yeah.
And then now in high schoolI played against him.

Now you said Mark Smith?
Is that Donovan Smith's?
Yeah, that's his dad.
So you played on what?
The Orioles?
Yeah, I played on theOrioles with them.
Okay.
Because I've knownMark for a while.
That's cool.
That's cool.
So how do you feel likeyour upbringing, or your
upbringing or your environmentinfluenced your mindset in
your approach to competition?
Can you explainit a little more?

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Like the external factors, theway you were raised, how do
you feel like that influencedyour approach to competition
and how you go about adversity?

I've always been a real perfectionist.
'cause my dad, especiallywhenever he wants me to
do something like mow thegrass or do chores around
the house, he wants itdone right the first time.
So I'm a real perfectionistwhen it comes to pitching
and I really wannado as good as I can.
But my mom teaches me to keepa level head and just have fun.

(07:44):
And that's my mindset.
I wanna do as goodas I can back.
At the end of the day, I gottahave the belief in myself
that I'm not just my results.

Yeah.
Was there a time whereyou used to just strictly
focus on the results?

Yeah.
Last year a lot.
Every game, like first gameagainst to Martinsburg we
lost, I did pretty goodbut we still lost and I was
pretty beat up over that forthe next like week and then.
Really this year iswhen I started to
really understand how todistance myself and my
results and still believein myself if I do bad.

(08:23):
Because I've been strugglingmore this year with injuries.
So it's really, I'm grateful.
It's helped me reallyhandle adversity and learn
how to be a better player.

For sure.
Now, I know youtalk about injury.
You mentioned your back,you mentioned your arm.
How do you feel likethose injuries benefited
you to this point?
You're going to play collegebaseball, you're doing
pretty well this year.
I got a 2.5 ERA, so

they've helped me.
They set me back, definitely.
Like I hurt my arm last year.
Then I took three months off,went and played in summer.
I had a really bad season.
I was stone hard still,but I was just really,
didn't have any control.
But that taught me.
Yeah, like I checked my ego,like it really showed me,

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like we played some teamfrom New Jersey and they
hit two home runs off me.
It really showed me likeI'm not as good as I think
I am, so I need to justcontrol what I can control.
And my back injury, it'shelped me like just learn a
lot about physical therapy.
Okay.
Taking care of my body,first of all, and then
pitch with more control andpitch smarter this year.

(09:37):
Like I'm not going outand not throwing as hard
as I can every pitch.
I have an approachto every at bat.
I'm, I have a plan in my head

this year.
Okay.
And that's reallyhelped me with that.
So you talk about speed andvelocity, but you're also
talking about how you didn'treally have that control.
Have you tried toincorporate, how have you
incorporated control withoutsacrificing your velocity?

I'm still trying to figure that out.
Most of the time when I.
Try and have more control.
It does come with a littlebit of loss in vilo, but just
almost thinking more inthe game, not just on
cruise control, just havemy adrenaline super high.
I'm breathing more thinkingabout every batter, and then

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trying to just take it onebatter at a time now instead
of worrying about the wholegame at the same time.
Like

worrying about my stats.
Oh, like focusingon that at bat.
Yeah.
The next, like my currentpitch, my next pitch.
Instead of thinking about ohcrap, I got this guy up next.
Or I got this guy next.
I would be

like, oh, I only got six strikeouts so far.
I need 10 plus.
But I'm not thinkinglike that anymore.
And I'm, I thinkthat's a good thing.

Now I know something big and rare being
a pitcher is the no hitter.
Have you ever done a no hitter?

Against Kaiser this year I had a perfect game.
Okay.
But someone bunted and.
Made a controversial call,but it was called a hit.
It was difficult play, butthat would've been my first
high school, no hitter.
Perfect game.
Okay.
Last year against Musclemenin the seventh inning.

(11:15):
Some they brought inlike a backup hitter and
he got a little bloop.
Single.
Yeah.
Almost had it.
And then I've gotclose, but not so far.

Okay.
Now, in those moments, becausethat's a high pressure moment.
Yeah.
Even though you're stillin control of that game.
Kind of walk me throughthat feeling and your
mindset in those situations.

My mindset in a big situation, I feel
like that's where I thrive.
'cause that's just whereI get the most adrenaline.
Gives my blood pumping the most.
I just always think aboutdominating the hitter.
If I have a, if it's a bigmoment, I'm just like, I
gotta have the most confidenceI can in myself and just
trust that I'm gonna bringmy best stuff against his

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best stuff and I'm gonna win.
Who do you feel like's

the best hitter that you face as a pitcher
or the top three?

There's a lot of good hitters in our
area, especially this year.
I always have troublestriking out Lynn and Pence.
Okay.
Him surf, obviously he's great.
And another Jefferson kid,probably Danner, Alex Danner
always have trouble strikinghim out and getting him out.

(12:29):
Those are probably mythree hardest at bats.
Yeah.
That's what I'd say.

So let's say Landon Penn
steps up to the plate.
What's your mindset andwhat's your approach?
Is it the same every time ordoes It kind of changes 'cause

I've known him since we were little.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like him a lot and Ireally want to strike him out
mostly because it's just fun.
We're friends, but whenI. Get him at the plate.
I know.
I can't just blowfastballs by him.
Yeah.
He's too good of a hitter.
So my approach is to make himthink I have to deceive him.

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Like I'm gonna throwmostly fastballs, but
I'm gonna try and mix ineverything once in a while.
Try and get him out.
Yeah.
Him.
I can't really thinkabout striking him out.
I gotta just focus onmaking my good pitch and
just getting him out.
Overall, he's areally good hitter.

Just hitting your spots and then whatever happens.
Yeah.
So if I can get him to groundout the second or, okay.
Yeah.
I gotta accept a normal out,not a glorious strikeout.
Yeah.
Every once

in a while.
Do you

know

what's the most amount of strikeouts
you've had in a game?
I had 14 and five inningsversus Hampshire last year.
Okay.
So I only had one outthat wasn't a strikeout.
Yeah.
And then I just had 13 andfive innings two weeks ago.
Last year I had 13 or14 verse muscle men.

(13:52):
Yeah.
Those are the highestones I've had so far.

So when you're, so when you're out there and
you've got a high strikeoutcount, you know you're striking
out batteries left and right.
How do you maintain thatcomposure and that mindset
to continue followingthrough with that?
It's just confidence.

I just have high confidence in myself.
Especially if it's a good day.
I just almost assume that I'mgonna strike them out and that
just gives me the confidenceto go out there and compete.

So walk me through like
your pregame ritual.
Do you have a, or like asuperstition, the have baseball
players are like, can'tstep on the line or, yeah,

that's, JP does the opposite of that.
Every time he goes out to pitch,he drags his foot on the line.
Makes everybody mad.
It's funny.
That's funny.
But every game, two hoursbefore the game, I'll
show up to the field.
I eat fruit.
Okay.
Usually like a bowl offruit with some yogurt.
I'll drink an energy drink30 minutes before I listen
to music the whole time.

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Start plys an hour before Itake a hour and a half long
nap before I go to the field.
Okay.
As long as it's not likethe end school game where
I didn't have time to Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll listen to music.
That's pretty much, Igotta be adjustable.
Like I have to have ashorter routine sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes not.
I try to keep itconsistent though.

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But a big superstitionof mine is my socks.
I love

wearing colorful socks.
Okay.
And you wear long pantsthough, don't you?
Yeah.
But then like when youfollow through, I'm
sure it shows everybody.
So do you have a bigcollection of socks?
Yeah, I have a bigcollection of socks.
Okay.
SpongeBob socks.
Rugrat socks.
Okay.
All sorts of socks.
So all like pop culture socks,like things that stand out.
Yeah.
So describe your topthree socks for me.

I got my powder Blue Patrick socks.
Okay.
I usually wear that withour private Blue Jersey.
I got, those are myfavorite ones, probably.
I got my pink SpongeBobsocks I just got this
year and my favorite pair.
I, it's a tough decision.
I have a lot.

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Maybe these ones Ihave on right now.

Those

ones,

yeah.
What is it about the socks?
Is it just is it the factthat like baseball uniforms
are just whatever and thenfinally it like, it allows
me to give, put my spicer my,

yeah.
It just lets me get likea little creativity.
Okay.
I've just been doing it forthe last two years and I've
been doing good the last twoyears, so no point in stopping.

Now, are you one of those people that's
I have to, if I do reallygood, I have to wear the
same outfit or Yeah, I am.

Every game with the powder blue
jersey and wearing the samesocks the last two years.
Because of that.

Okay.
Your mom, is your momlike the same way?
I'm sure she's probablyyeah, like you gotta do that
or, yeah, she was when sheplayed and she still is.
It's pretty fun.
So what are some challenges thatathletes commonly face in the
early stages of their career?
Me

personally, I had a big attitude problem.
Like when I would mess up, Iwould throw my bed or slam my
helmet or something like that.
That's a big part of whatI had to really focus
on in my younger career.
But mostly confidence.

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You gotta have, you gottabelieve in yourself and
'cause if you don't,you just have no chance.
You might as well bank onyourself to win and then just
deal with it if you don't.

So what was it about, do you know why you
would slam and throw stuff?
I knew a lot of kids do that.
I

dunno.
I think I just had likeanger issues, I worked on it.
I'm a really calm personnow and I'm proud of that.

I just wasn't sure if it was
Like a frustrationthing or like a

Yeah, I think it was, I was just
really a perfectionist.
Like I still am.
I've learned to deal withit, but it was a big part.
Like every time I mess upI would just slam stuff.
I was easy to, I reallyhad an anger issue.
Like I was easyto like make mad.
I would fight a bunch ofkids, but I fixed that.

Have you had any brawls on the mat?
Have you ever had to him?
We almost

did Two years ago when I was a sophomore on senior
Night against Grace Academy.
People were, people on the otherteam were chirping our pitcher's
mom, and then he almost gotinto a fight with one of them.
It was pretty bad.
That was a big incident.

Like they were talking about his mom.

Yeah.
Yikes.
And he's, he was one ofthe type of guys that you
don't wanna mess with.
He was big guy and short temper.
And guy messing with his mom,he was like 5, 420 pounds
he would've got killed.

That's like Kevin Hart yelling at Shaq.
Yeah.
That's funny.
And Kevin Hartwould do that too.
That's actually funny.
So how do personal experiencesoutside of sports shape the
way an athlete competes?

I think what you go through really
shapes your whole life.
It gives you, and if you handleit you can use it to get a
good mindset on your sports.
If you've gone through struggle,you can use that as fuel
to really try and compete.

What do you feel like has outside of
your anger issues, haveyou struggled or dealt with
any external adversity?
That's.
You've had to overcome oroutside of injuries too?

Just not really.
It's mostly just injuriesthat I've been going
through that obviouslydrains on you mentally.
I've had to go through someof that, but I really just,
what helped me was I justturned my belief to God.
And it just makesit so much easier.
It just takes all the pressureoff my shoulders really.

So when those injuries happen, like walk me
through your mindset and justwhat you do outside including
God to keep moving forward.
Okay.
What I

do to keep moving forward, I just
have to sit for a littlebit on it, really think.
And then just, I trust myself.
I gotta keep reassuring myselflike, I'll get past this.
It's a temporary injuryand I'll keep going
on, I'll move forward.
It like this is gonna be a speckin the grand scheme of things,

yeah.
Now, which onewas worse for you?
Was it the back orwas it your arm?
It was my arm injury was pretty

scary.
'cause your UCL l's righthere and I strained that.
Cell's pretty scary.
Had some low ligamentissues down here.
That was a really scarymoment in my life.
I like dealing with ahuge injury like that's
like high school pitch.
That's probably a careerending injury if you tour UCL.

(20:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was definitely abig wake up moment I gotta
go get in the weight room,I gotta get stronger so
this doesn't happen again.
I gotta really focus,

oh, so you use that as.
That's when like thingspretty much transformed
for you almost in a way.
Yeah.
So you started what,going in the weight room?
Yeah, exercising.
So my junior year,

I was like six foot, a hundred
fifty five pounds.
Really skinny.
And I had to use my body likereally violently to throw hard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that just ended uptaking a toll on me.
Camp didn't have much muscle.
I've gained like 40, 45pounds and I haven't had any
armor issues since summer,

Okay.
So it's just really helped you.
Did you get, and I guessyou gained velocity too
as well, didn't you?

I'm not sure yet because I'm still getting
back to a hundred percent, butI'm sure I will eventually.
Okay.

Now what I know with baseball, if you're
a pitcher, everybody's oh,I throw 95 rather than 91.
How do you not let.
The numbers get to youand you just go out
there and play your game.

Yeah.
At the high school level,it's really not so much how
hard you throw, 'cause there'sthe prodigies that are gonna
throw 95 in high school.
But you gotta just, you gottaknow that if it's not your
time, it's not your time.
Your time will come,like most people don't
peak in high school.
They're not gonna alreadyachieve their most physical

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form of high school like me.
All the, this like term, allthe college coaches use that
I talk to, like raw prospect.
Like I'm, I have a lot ofpotential, so I gotta trust
that ability that I'm gonna turnout how I want and then just
don't worry about it so much.
Okay.

Now with Fairmont what ended up making
you decide to go to Fairmont

third baseball coach?
I really like him.
He knows a lot about pitching.
What made me choose FairmontOver similar schools or more
like prestigious schools,like some mid-major D ones.
I really like the campus.
It's, yeah, it just fits me.
Yeah.
And what I wanna do in college.

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They have goodengineering programs.
What I'm going into one of thebest ones in the state and it
just feels more like home, yeah.
I just like thevibe of the campus.
I'll have, I knowI'll have fun there.
Yeah.
Even if baseball doesn't turnout and I don't go pro, yeah.
I'll have fun at Fairmont allfour years, no matter what

Now is that your end goal to
go play professionally?

Yeah, eventually.

Okay.
Now like MLB or 'cause Iknow you can get drafted and
play in division two, evenDivision three sometimes.
Yeah.
But like MLB or youtrying to play overseas?
Like wherever it takes me

really.
I just want to be able to playbaseball as long as I can.

Yeah, I get that.
I remember wanting to play.
It's fun.
It is.
It's fun.
Now be careful becauseI like the Yankees.
What's your favoritebaseball team?

I don't watch much sports.
Okay.
I mostly just play, butnationals are my favorite team.
Okay.
That's reasonable.

They're not good.
They're not terrible.
Are they terrible?

They're terrible.
Last year.
Yeah.
I'm not really sure.
I haven't watched the gamein since Bryce Harper left.

I figured you were like one of
those Bryce Harper fans.

That's what brought me to be a Nationals fan

i's say, 'cause if you said the Orioles,
I was gonna have to askyou to leave respectfully,
'cause we don't cheer forthe Orioles on this podcast.
So what lessons that from yourpast have helped you succeed
in both sports and in life?
Just

the ability to take the failure and
defeat and just accept it.
Move on.
I've really struggledwith that in the past, but
that's really been a bigissue that I've had to fix.
And that's been alot better recently.

Now with, I know with Spring Mills
baseball, you guys have hadrocky seasons in the past.
How do you not letthose, like the wins and
losses get to you now?
What was your win andloss record these last
like couple years?

When I was a freshman, I
think we won two games.
We went two and 28,something awful.
Next year, my sophomoreyear we went four and 26.
Last year we wenteight and 22, 8 and 20.
And now this year we'reat a winning record, which
yeah, hopefully continues.
Mostly we justtrust our ability.
'cause sophomore year wehad a decent talented team.

(25:31):
Yeah.
But.
We didn't mesh at all.
Like it wasn't, didn'tfeel like a family really.
There was a few key outlierplayers that really brought
the team morale down.
Last year our record wasn'tvery, was bad, but we had
potential, we were a young team.
And we just got along betterthan any other year and

(25:52):
that's really pushed us towant to be better this year
and have hope that we'llbe better in the future.

So in your opinion, why is
team arou so important?
Why is it I'm

not really a hundred percent sure it's but
it definitely is importantbecause I guess it's just nice
to know that your teammatesbelieve in you and that pushes
everyone to wanna win more.
And I've been on teams withwhere people are fighting
every day and now thisyear where we're still.

(26:27):
Finding our way, butit's a lot better.
Like we're more of a family now.
Okay.
But I don't know why it's soimportant to be honest, but
I guess it's, as a pitcher,it's nice to know that all
your teammates have your back.
Yeah.
And they believe in you, andthen you gotta believe in them
that they'll make the plays.
Yeah.
And then it just helpseveryone out in the end.

Because there's moments when you're
pitching where it's you knowyou're on a roll, but then
somebody commits a error.
Yeah.
How do you stop thatfrom affecting your game?

You gotta, if you're have a problem
of blaming people oh, thisguy just made an error.
What is he doing?
He just sold the game.
You gotta think, whydidn't you strike 'em out?
You gotta, that's, there'ssome young pitchers that
I'm, I talk to and that'swhat they think and all just
have to check their egos.
Like what?

(27:17):
You can just strike 'em out.
It's your fault too.
You can't blame your teammateswhen everyone makes mistakes.
Baseball is a game of failure.
Yeah.
You're gonna make mistakes.
It's inevitable.
So you just gotta moveon, go to the next batter.

I gotcha.
So what strategies help athletesstay focused and confident?
Under pressure?
I'm

really big fan of breathing.
Just steady your breathing.
Find a breathing likerhythm that suits you.
I'm a big fan of that.
You can listen tomusic before a game.
Get you in the right mindset.
But I think that everyoneshould really, before a big
moment, just take a deep breath.

(28:01):
Okay.
Recollect your mind.
Don't make the moment too big.
You're just trying to do whatyou've done a thousand times.

Okay.
So you talk about music,you talk about breathing.
Where did thebreathing come from?
Like when did youdevelop that habit?

Last year or over the summer, one of them just,
I was started looking into,like researching different
topics about how I can becomethe best athlete I can be.
And I saw some articles aboutbreathing, so I just started
to implement it and thenit started working wonders.
So I've been doing ever since.

And then music.
What's your go-to musicto get you in the zone?
Is

it's a lot different from a
normal music taste.
Okay.
I usually like on a day-to-daybasis, I'm a really calm person.
I like listening to like jazz.
Okay.
Or just calm, calming music.
But game days, my mindsetis to dominate and, okay.
Kill my opponent basically.

(29:08):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I really get into that mode.
I'll listen to baby Kia.
Okay.
King Vaughn.
Just, you wouldn't expect likeme if you knew me personally.
Yeah.
You wouldn't expectme to listen.
Just whatever gets me intothat mindset to dominate.
That's what I like.
Listening to before I

got you something that'll get you, like upbeat,
energetic, ready to just go,like break through a wall,
punch somebody in the face,whatever it's you gotta do.
Yeah, I get that.
I a hundred percent get that.
'cause I like my typical music.
If I'm just chilling, I like,I call white girl music, get
to Cater Perry Taylor Swift,but then if I about to go into

(29:46):
the weight room or if I'm aboutto go interview an athlete,
like I'm turning on Meek Mill,Lil Baby, gunna all of them
just to get you in the zone.
I get that.
I get that.
I a hundred percentagree with that.
Back when

I did play, like the field, I didn't listen.
That was really justreserved for my pitching.
Like during, when I usedto play the field and hit.
I would just listento normal music.
Okay.
But I feel like pitchingyou have to have more
of a competitive edge,or at least for me

now, one thing that I did whenever I pitched
is I would always listen tomusic or not listen to music.
I would sing a song in my head.
Do you do that when you'reon the mound or, no, I
like talking to myself

a lot though.
Okay.
I'll talk to myself aboutwhat my plan for this
battery is, talk to myself,just reassure myself, gimme
some motivational thoughts.
And that type of stuff.
But I don't really sing orwhistle or anything like that.
I know some people that do.
Yeah.
It's pretty fun to watch.
But

now when you're, let's just say you're on like
a negative streak, a couplehits in a row, maybe a walk,
maybe a hit by pitch, whateverit is, how do you shift your
mindset so you can go back oreither A, finish the inning or
B, flip back to that dominance.
I haven't had

to really think about like last year
I didn't have that problemvery much until I got hurt.
This year it's been different.
I've been struggling a lot more.
I've had to handle, go throughadversity and it's been more
difficult, but I just gottatake it one better at a time.
Really.
Okay.
Like someone gets on base,just, I just gotta let it go.

(31:24):
My coach Barrett, he alwaystalks about being a goldfish.
Just immediatelyforget everything.
That happens.
Yeah.
And I think that's goodfor if you do good too.
That kind keepsyour ego in check.

Okay.
Not worry.
So if I'm doing really well,don't worry about the fact
that I shrug out the last 15.
Yeah.
Just be like, all rightX batter, new approach
or same approach.
I get that.
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So what role does self-talkand internal dialogue
play in performance?

I like using it as a motivator and to tell
myself that you got this, you'regonna strike this kid out.
Like a reassurance.
I like using that.
I know I used to have to tellmyself constantly calm down.
That's a big thing too.
That can help.
Just, I think it helps withevery aspect of the game.

(32:28):
Like you can think, if you'reup to that, if you're hitting,
you can think about okay, Ineed to watch the fastball.
But I feel like if youdon't say it out loud, you
don't really believe it.
I, like in life, I liketelling myself things out loud.
That really makes mebelieve what I'm saying,
not just thinking it.

Oh, okay.
I see what you're saying.
So action.
Like physically doing it insteadof just like thinking it.

Making it.
Okay.
If I'm driving and I'mthinking like, okay, I
gotta turn and I gottaturn out this light in five
minutes, I'll just forget it.
So I gotta tell myself.

Okay.
I actually, I hadanother question.
I can't remember what it was.
We'll have to end up comingback to it, but oh, what was it?
It was something about on themound, we'll come back to it.
Not a big deal.
So what are some mental habitsyou feel like separate the
best athletes from the rest?

I know all the best athletes have a
unwavering belief in themselves.
I know that for a fact.
If you don't believe ahundred percent that you can
do what you want to you'renot gonna be able to if.
If I don't actually thinkI'm gonna be able to go pro,
I might as well as quit now.
Yeah.

(33:45):
So you gotta really haveconfidence in yourself really.
That's the biggestthing that I've learned.

So are, have there ever been moments when
you're on the mound, let's justsay they come up with a mal
visit, they try to take you out.
Do you have any control overnah, you're not taking me out?
Or I don't reallyhave any control over

it.
I've I have had some times,like last year where I was
like don't take me out.
I'm not sure if it influencedit or not, but I'm sure if
I talk to my coach, likein the dugout, usually
we're on the same mindset.
Like we have the same idea.
Okay.
But I don't really think Ihave much control over that.

(34:25):
I don't think I shouldhave any control over it.
That's a coach'sdecision and I think my.
My view of the situation isclouded by wanting to win
and wanting to good too good.
If I'm already 12 strikeoutsin, but I'm at a hundred
pitches, I'm gonnawanna go back out there.
But yeah.
It's not the rightthing to do for my arm.

(34:46):
That's true.

Because I'm trying to think.
There's an MLB pitcher thatMax Scherzer, he regularly hits
like 1 30, 1 40, sometimes 150.
How have you, what's the mostpitch you've ever thrown?

In high school it's a 115,
110 pitch count limit.
Okay.
But if you start anotherbatter at 1 0 9, you
can go until he is out.
So I've, last year, most of mygames I was like 1 12, 1 15.
Okay.
So

Coach Matth (35:16):
you're consistently

getting through fifth, sixth inning sometime.
Yeah.
This year my highesthas been like a hundred.
Okay.
So my pitch count's beenmore down this year, but I'm
still getting to like sixth,seventh inning of every game.

Okay.
Now.
In high school, do you feel likethat's a, or at least with being
like a college committ, do youthink that's a, like a thing
where it's I committed so nowI just dial back a little bit?

Definitely.
Especially for pitchers.
Like hitters or in othersports, you don't have
to worry about that.
But as a pitcher, youreally gotta be conscious
about how many pitches youthrow for your arm's sake.
Like this year my goal has beento keep my pitch count down.
Yeah.
And it's been going good.

Yeah.

So I don't wanna be in committed to college.
I don't want to go outand blow my arm out again.

Yeah.
Yeah.
So what are some common mentalchallenges that athletes
face throughout their career?
Just reality

checks.
Like you're not as goodas you think you are.
And that can really hinderyour self-confidence, but.
You just really gotta getthrough it and just keep
believing in yourself.
That's mainly what I think isa, probably the most challenging
thing in every athlete's career.

(36:36):
So what was like the biggestreality check for you?
I probably, this summer, likewe played a lot of teams from
OUTTA state and some really goodteams with, and Allegion you can
keep playing until you're doneyour freshman year of college.

(36:56):
So you're facing you canbe a sophomore facing like
college freshmen, you canbe facing 22 year olds.
And that just really, andstruggling over the summer
really made me think okay,I'm still, I gotta believe
in myself, but I'm not asgood as I thought I was.
I can't just get by withthrowing just fast balls.

(37:17):
I gotta mix up everything.
I gotta pitch smart.

Okay, now you say you played for post
60, that's not, did post14 change to post 60 or

no PO post 60.
We just turned into aLegion team last year.
Okay.
We were it was the knights, justthe North Berkeley Knights for
the last two years, but then wegot a post and we're really new.

Okay.
Now how is that,how do you feel like that
has made you a better playercompared to high school?
Do you feel likeit's about the same?
It's different

In high school you face you mostly face the
same kids, like over and over,especially if you're like
number one or two pitcher onthe team, you're mostly just
gonna face epac opponents.
But in summer you justface kids from all over
the place you faced.
And you also faced like kidsfrom north, from post 14.
Kids, or you've facedkids from New Jersey,

(38:16):
kids from other states.
It's a higher levelcompetition just 'cause
there's college people.
But I think both really have thesame effect, but it's a little

harder in the summer, I gotcha.
Plus you got like the heat andso what's like the hottest?
Is there a game that'sbeen like super hot that
you've had to pitch on?

Not in the recent years, but I remember
when I was like in littleleague, there was one game
where it was a heat warning.
It was like a hundred oh five.
It was crazy.
Like 110.
That was crazy.
But the last coupleyears, I don't think so.
I don't think it's gottenover a hundred when we play,
which hasn't been that hot.

So What about 'cause I know
around here sometimesit's like it snows in May.
Yeah.
So it's have you ever hadto pitch in a really cold
temperature and like how doyou show up and still compete
at, your highest level despitefreezing your butt off?

Me, I just like thinking, I just
try not think about it.
Okay.
I just keep my mind off thecold and just focus on the game.
But this last year I've overthis last winter I went out and
pitched in the snow a bunch,try to get myself ready for that
and just, I feel like it alsobuilds like mental toughness to
go and run or train in the snow.

(39:37):
Okay.
So that's helpedand makes it easier.

So you run and you train in the snow.
Let's, so let's just saywe get a snow warning.
I know this year got a lotof snow in West Virginia.
Yeah.
Got a foot of snowon the ground.
What's your go-totraining regimen?

I'll go to the baseball field.
I usually get like ashovel or something.
Okay.
To make a little like laneso I don't trip on the snow.
Like I don't slip.
I'll get a big net.
Usually I'm by myself'cause nobody else
wants to be out there.
Yeah.
Ryland went a coupletimes with me.
A couple people comesometimes, but I'll just
do my normal throwing.
Then I'll go do some sprints,then I'll run on the track.

(40:17):
Not the track, but likethe warning track of
the baseball field.
Run a few poles.
Yeah.
Get some dynamic warmupsstretches in just basic stuff.

Okay.
Now you talk about nobody'scoming with you, but you're
still going out there.
What is it that,or should I say?
There's a lot of peopleout there where it's if
they don't have somebodywith them, they won't go.
Yeah.
I've

had struggles with that in the past up until like
my sophomore year when I startedtaking it more seriously.
Because I'm startingto get better.
Yeah.
But when I was trainingbefore my junior year.
I was going out,throwing every day.
Most of the timepeople weren't come.
So I would go throwingto a net and I would just
listen to music by myself.

(41:03):
It's calming.
I like it.
Okay.
I like being bymyself, training it.
And it's more difficult thantraining with teammates 'cause
that just makes it more fun.
Yeah.
But I feel like it's reallydoing more of a difference
when I'm trained by myself.

So you feel like you're getting, I know
there's results that you canget with teammates that you're
not gonna get by yourself.
Yeah.
But do you feel like you geta different result or maybe
you learn more about yourselfby training, by yourself?
Yeah.
I

learn more by myself.
I get more satisfaction from it.
Okay.
I feel better.
Like I'm more proud of myself.
Nobody wants to go outthere, but I still did.
And that makes me feelgood and reassures me that

I'm, I can reach my goals.
Okay.
Like you didn't need somebody,something outside of you in
order to reach that goal.
Yeah.
It's it's just all right there.
I have the power inme to do what I want.
That's good.
That's good.
So like those people thatare afraid to go out and just
do something by yourself,maybe go to the gym, maybe
train for an hour or two.

(42:02):
What would you say to them?
What advice wouldyou give to 'em?

I'd say look within yourself.
Decide if you wanna take,if you're in sports, yeah.
Decide if you wanna takeyour sports serious and you
want to go to the next level.
And if you do, then yougotta ask yourself like,
am I really doing all I cando to reach the next level?
And if you're not, eitherdo it or just accept.
You're not gonna, you justgotta be harsh with yourself.

(42:32):
Harsh or just be real withyourself, be real with yourself.
Okay.
Am I doing all I need todo to achieve my goals?
If I'm not, then eitherget in check or, I
don't know, just fail.

So external pressures, you got coaches,
fans, family members, friends.
How do those affect anathlete's performance or how
do keep those noises out?

Last year there was, I felt like there was
a lot of pressure on me andthat it didn't really hinder
my performance very much,but it did over the summer,
and I just had to learn thatjust no matter how much
pressure's on you, no matterwhat the outcome is, you just

(43:22):
gotta stay calm and keep going.
Just do as much as you can do.
Don't let, if your family issaying, oh, you can't, we don't
want to, we don't want you,unless you're a doctor, we don't
want you unless you go pro.
Just try and tune themout and just do what you
can within your power.

Focusing on like your vision.
Yeah.
Not letting everybody like,oh, you, you have to do
this, or you have to be this.
Yeah.
Just keep your head straight.
Now has there ever been a momentwhere somebody said something
that knocked, knocked you off?
And in that moment, whatdid you do to shift back?

I can't remember any moment
specifically like that.
Yeah.
I'm sure it's happened.
But I'd say if that happensto you, just breathe.
I like just breatheand focus and then just
think about it and thengo to your outcome.

Okay.
That's good though.
'cause that's something I do is.
Sometimes I'llforget to breathe.
Yeah.
And then I'm like,why am I so anxious?

Yeah.
If I'm on the moundand I'm like, why is
my blood going so fast?
Yeah.
Why am I, why is myheart beating so fast?
Why am I nervous right now?
And then I'm just like,I just need to breathe.

Yeah.
Now are you, do you breathethrough your nose or you
breathe through your mouth more?

I guess depends on how high my blood pressure
is and how my heart rate is.
If I'm going if I'm like superamped up, I'll have to, yeah.
But usually I'm just likea steady end through nose
out through the mouth.
So do you feel like that'swhat gets you the best results
when you're trying to calmdown or just trying to like
I like to get to the pointwhere I can get a steady

(45:03):
breath in through the nose.
Okay.
And I feel like that'swhere I'm at my best.

That's

good.

I'm gonna start using that.
That's good.
That's good.
So how does an athlete's beliefsystem shape their ability to
perform at the highest level?
Oh,

I think it definitely helps to
have a belief system.
Like you can have whateverbelief you want to have,
but God and really helpsme focus on my path.
It takes the pressure offme, off my shoulders a bit.
It's okay, he has a planand he's given me my
skill, my talent, andgiving me my passion.
I just need to dowhat I can with it.

Okay.
Has there been, so goingthrough those injuries, you
talk about, you said youkinda leaned towards God.
How did, were there any momentsof like doubt that kind of
crept in and how did get thosemoments, get the doubt out,
I guess is what I would say.

Definitely a lot of doubt.
Especially when I hurt my arm.
Last year.
It was like, before I saw, Iwent to a doctor in Baltimore
to check myself out, but beforethen I was like, oh man, I might
have really messed myself up.
I might never come back fromthis, but I just had to.
I think reading the Biblereally helps me connect with him

(46:14):
more and really calm me down.
Like I can just pray.
Just pray.
You don't even need topray specific prayers.
I like just sitting down orlaying down at night and just
like having a conversationwith God one-on-one.
Okay.
That really helps mefocus and calm down.

(46:37):
That's good.
That's good.

So I know with baseball being your main thing,
you've got, especially whenschool starts, what, six,
seven months before Yeah.
The season really kicksoff, you got conditioning in
like December, January-ish.
How do you balance your personallife with your athletic life?

My athletic life is most of my
life to be honest, but.
My personal life, I liketo just be kind to people.
Do just, I want people to havea, when they think of me, I have
a positive impact on their life.
I wanna make other people'slives better just by being a

(47:20):
positive influence in them.
Yeah.
And that's really whatI'd really try and do.
If I see a stranger, if I seea freshman in school that's
looks sad or something, I'lljust try and cheer them up.
I just try and be a positiveinfluence on people and
that's what helps me.

Now is there do you have a hobby that
you that you stick to?
Not really.
I just, I like pitching.
Okay.
Because I wasn't, you're, 'causeyou're in your book, right?
I wasn't sure if youtook pictures on the
side or, no, not really.
Okay.

It's a fun class though.
But I, if there wasvolleyball around here Yeah.
I might've played volleyballinstead of baseball.
That's how likemuch, I love volley.
I love it.
It's so fun.
Yeah.
And I'm pretty, pretty goodat it for never playing.
Yeah.
But my hobbies, I don't reallyhave any hobbies really.

(48:15):
I like watch animefrom time to time.
Okay.
I've been doing thatsince I was like eight.
That's mostly what I do in myfree time if I'm not recovering
or something like that.
Yeah.

So I know there's a lot of people
that really like anime.
What is it aboutanime that like,

I don't know, it's just, I got into it
when I was young and sticked.
Okay.
I've always liked cartoons.
Yeah.
It's not like that'sthe only thing I watch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like I'll, I just likewatching everything.
Okay.
I like, personally,

I wasn't sure if there was like a
hidden message in anime thatlike really draws you to
it if it's just not really.
Nah, I got all theselike fireballs and like
demons, whatever, andthey just get slayed.
I don't know.
No, not really.
Okay.

I just like watching what I like to
watch and I have for a while.
Even, like when I was inmiddle school, I was one
of the kids like NATO,running in the Callway.
Okay.
And I was, you gotta do what you

gotta do.
Yeah.

I had these two best friends.
I remember they moved awayafter middle school, but Okay.
They were a pretty weird bunch.
They would watch like the morestereotypical ones that you
would really judge people for.
Okay.
Like the, I don't know evenknow how to explain it without
being like, inappropriate.
It was bad.
It was Oh, it was like, okay.

Yeah.
Like those hand tieones or whatever.
They would always try to getme a watch and be like, okay.
Oh my God I'm good.
No, thank you.
That's funny.
Hey, but you, you're having fun.
You're having a blast.
That's all that really mattered.
That's good.
So if I was to watch let'sjust say an introductory
anime, what should I watch?
What do you like, what kind ofshows do you like personally?

(49:58):
Like action Mystery.
I like a good comedy.
I like some action.
So my top favorite moviesare, I like Marvel movies.
I like the Fast and the Furious.
I like Transformers.

Okay.

So something that like fits into that.
And then I also Chick flick.
So

I. I think an easy one is like fire
force or demon slayer.
'cause they justlook really cool.
Okay.
And it's a bunch of action.
Psyche.
K It's a comedy.
Okay.
And it has action.
It's cool.
I'd say a few, likemore of a mystery story.
Okay.
Death notes really good.
Alright.
That was one of the firstones I watched and I loved it.

All right.
I'll have to, I'lllook into that.
Oh, what are they like20 minute episodes?
Yeah, they're 20 minuteepisodes, but then they have
like hundreds of episodes.
Okay.
I'll give it a shot.
Alright.
Good job Jacob.
You just got Coach Matthewto check out anime.
Here we go.
All right.
So what impact do athleteshave beyond their sport
and how can they use theirplatform effectively,

Jacob Cumle (50:59):
Beyond their sport?
Does that count as likeother younger people that
also play your sport?

It could, yeah.
It's really justabout how you use.
Who you are and yourplatform to influence
people in a positive way.
If it's

like a social media platforms, I don't
really use mine very much.
I most, like I don'tpost very much.
I would like to get intothat, make an account to
like motivate younger people.
That'd be cool eventually,but I'm, I just need to
focus on being the bestperson I could be right now.
It's already hard enough.
Yeah.
But I know like you havea big influence on eight

(51:37):
year olds, people that playbaseball that are younger than
me and that watch me play.
Yeah.
I like to sometimes, likeyou just really need to be
a good role model, okay.
You just need to.
I make them want to lovethe game and make them
wanna be just like you.

Now has there ever been a moment where you
had a younger kid approachyou and ask you for advice?
Or did you evergive him any advice?
Yeah, there's been a couple

moments like that.
I just try my best.
I feel honored when it happens.
Yeah.
Feel flattered.
Like I don't think I deserveit personally, but when that
happens, it's a really coolmoment and I was trying to
give 'em the best advice I can.
Especially if they're like,have similar experiences as me.
Yeah.
There's some kids that, likemoms have talked to me, they've
had some like attitude problems.

(52:27):
Okay.
And I'm trying to help, I'vebeen trying to help them.
Or some like my parents' friendsor old, like parents that know
me, they'll try and help meteach their kid how to throw.
It's really fun.
It's an honor.

Has there been, or is there a moment that
stands out to you to the mostwhere it's like a kid came
up to you and you feel likeyou really changed his life?
There was

no, like young kids.
Yeah.
But some like freshmen,eighth graders.
I I don't wanna shout names,but there's some, this one
kid that I was really closewith and he was dealing
with some mental problems.
Yeah.
Real serious mental problemsbecause of his sport.
Yeah.
'cause of baseball.
And I just helped himrealize that's not there

(53:14):
all there is to life.
Yeah.
Like life is, I love baseball.
That's basically my whole life.
But I gotta realize that'snot all there is in life.
I have a life outside ofbaseball, I have influences
on other people thatI want to be positive.
And I tried andhelp him with that.
And he's doing better andI'm really proud of him

(53:36):
and makes me feel pretty

good.
That's good.
That's good.
So how do you, so if youdidn't have baseball in your
life, where do you thinkyou'd be at this point?
Yeah.

Jacob Cum (53:47):
Honestly, don't know.
I probably, I would'veplayed some sport.
Yeah.
I would've played something.
So I don't think I'dbe that different.
I don't think I'd be asgood at any other sport.
I'm pretty athletic.
I'd be good at like basketball.

Yeah.

But if I played football, I would
just get injured too much.
I'm already getting fiveinjuries a year on the non, just
sitting there throwing the ball.
Yeah.
But I'd be, I feel like I'dbe pretty good at basketball,
but I don't think I'd belike getting like high
college coaches talkingto me in any other sport.
But if I didn't play any sports,I don't think I would

(54:25):
be as good of a person.
I have a really good family,like my grandmother, she's an
amazing person, nicest ladyI've ever known in my life.
I still think I'd be agenerally kind person, but.
The, I would encourage anyoneto put their kids in sports.
It just shows you so many,like life lessons and it's

(54:47):
just so valuable to me.
Yeah.
I, what it's done to my life

for real.
I don't think I'd be where I'mat without sports, honestly.
Even like now, like thereare parents that force
their kids to play sports.
Yeah.
That's different.
But

you don't have, it doesn't have to be sports.
Yeah.
Like they could havea music passion.
Yeah.
I think as long as yourkids have, are passionate
about something, I thinkthey'll turn out right.

Like an extracurricular,
something that's 'causelike baseball's in a way.
Your hobby.
Yeah.
Except you're justreally good at it.
So it's it's a good, that'sa good, that's a good
thing about hobbies though.
So life after sports, I knowyou're not gonna be done
play baseball anytime soon.
What challenges do you feel likewould come with that transition?

It'll definitely be a lot different.
Just not being able to goto the clubhouse every day.
If I don't have a clubhousenow, 'cause I'm in high school,
but eventually I won't beable to go also hang out with
my teammates and everythingafter I'm done playing.
I wanna be involvedat some level.
If I do go pro, my plan would beto go be a pitching coach with

(55:52):
some, if I'm in a good financialsituation, really low prices,
try and help kids as much as Ican, give back to the community.
Maybe coach somekids at Spring Mills.
Okay.
But the challenge woulddefinitely be just not
doing what I love every day.
Yeah.
I think that's really fun tome's my favorite thing part

(56:13):
about life, just being able togo use what talent God's given
me and just go play every dayand just have fun doing it.

So do you think like an issue that
happens with athletes isyou're playing a sport first,
13, 14 years of your lifeand then when it's done.
Do you feel like you almostlose your sense of self?
You learn sense of purpose?
Yeah.
I think that's definitely a

problem with like I have some friends
that they're probably gonnabe done after this year.
Like they don't have any likecollege offers or anything.
Yeah.
And it's been hard for themand but again, you just
gotta realize sports isn'tall life gives you Yeah.
And you just gotta be thebest version of yourself

(56:58):
you can be with or withoutwhatever sport you like.

So it's almost like your purpose is always
there, but it's about findinga way to use whatever it is
as an outlet for your purpose.
Yeah.
Whether that's in thesport or outside the sport.

If you were as passionate about, like
if you're passionate aboutbaseball like I am, you would
need to focus your passion intoa different aspect of life.
Okay.
Go get a job you really go.
Start a family.
Just get something to whereyou can put that passion into.
'cause I know if I couldn't playbaseball after college, there'd

(57:39):
be a big hole like in my life.
Yeah.
That would need tofill with something.

That's true.
Very true.
Because that wasmy biggest thing.
I lost.
'cause I played basketball,played baseball for 13,
14 years of my life.
And then you get toa point where it's
like, what do I do now?
Yeah.
Because it's like you'rebored because it's I can't
go to the field every day.
Yeah.
Can't go to the court every day.
That's definitely gonna

be a tough day to come when it does.
Yeah.

Fingers crossed for you that it
doesn't come anytime soon.
Yeah.
I hope you have a successfulMLB career play for the Yankees.
They just change.
You have your long hair, soyou get to keep your long hair.
That's good enough.
Now do, who's yourfavorite pitcher?
I know you don't watcha lot of professional
sports, but who would yousay your favorite pitcher?

Jacob (58:24):
Definitely Max Scherzer.
Okay.
He played for thenationals, whatever.
Yeah.
I started becominga fan of baseball.
He really, I've watched somelike videos that he has said
you gotta make sure you have.
So I like to think of it aslike an alter ego, almost
like when I'm on the moundand me as a person, like two
complete different people, I'vehad a little bit of trouble

(58:46):
with that this year, justwith injuries, just, yeah.
Trying to get my headin that space again.
But when I'm on the mound,I'm there to dominate.
I'm there to do everything Iin my power to make a team win.
And it's almost like a differentperson than me in real life.

(59:07):
And he really exemplifies that.
He's insane.

Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So it's like when you'reout, you're with people,
it's like you're Jacob.
Yeah.
But then when you step onthat mound, you flip flips or.
Switch flips andit's like showtime.
Yeah.
I'm the man.
That's good.
So for you, outside of winningchampionships or winning
trophies, accolades, what doessuccess look like for you?

(59:36):
Success.

Being able to play baseball every day.
That's what I amreally thankful for.
And a big part of success tome is on a game to game basis.
My team winning.
Yeah.
That's the biggest success thatcan happen, but just going out
and having fun, having a goodseason, high team morale, that's

(01:00:01):
a successful season to me,no matter what the record is.
Yeah.
Last year we were eight and 22,but it was a successful season.
Yeah.
Yeah, because we gotbetter from the last year.
Yeah.
Team morale was up,everyone was close.
We all learned a lotof things that was
successful in my opinion.

Coach Matthew (01:00:17):
So that growth from your freshman
sophomore year to junioryear, yeah, the growth was
like the success in a way.
That's good.
So how do you feel like anathlete defines their legacy
and what do you personallywanna be remembered for

Jacob Cumley (01:00:32):
off the field?
I wanna be remembered asa kind person that gives
back to the community.
And that's basicallyit on the field.
I wanna be rememberedas a good player.
I love the game, Iwanna be remembered
like I gave it my all.

(01:00:52):
Yeah.
No matter what happensat the end of the day.
And that I want toinspire younger people
that put bet on yourself.
Yeah.
Put all your cards inthe right place and
then hope it turns out.

No plan A or no plan Bs.
No plan Cs.
Just this is myplan, let's do it.
Yeah.
Like I

have a plan B, but I love engineering's fun.
Yeah.
But it's not as fun as baseball.

That's very true.
There's a, there's away you can incorporate
engineering into baseball.
Yeah.
But there's biomechanicsand so like you could end
up maybe designing the next,I don't know, something
that helps pitchers.
Yeah.
With like injuries or something

like that.
I know.
Maybe I could make arobotic UCL for Tommy John

something.
Yeah, something like that.
Or, you could be pitching,be in the pro leagues and
you can be designing thiswith your engineering
degree on the back end.
That'd be pretty fun.
That'd be cool.
So for the next generationof athletes, striving
for greatness, looking tomake it to the next level.
What advice do youhave for those?

You bet on yourself.
You have to have confidence.
You gotta believe in yourself.
If you wanna make it anywhere.
Like I didn't have muchconfidence last year.
I was really anxious.
Yeah.
And after that first game Iwas like, oh, I can do this.
It gave me a big self-confidenceand that helped a lot.

(01:02:17):
Now I have college offersand I have a successful
plan for my future.
And it's all 'cause Ijust believed in myself.
You just need to believein yourself and see
where it takes you.

For sure.
Always believe your,always believe in yourself.
Kids always bet on yourself.
Alright, that's allthe time we have here.
This has been the conclusionof episode 11, Royal Vision
Podcast with Jacob Ley.
Coach Matthew, peace out.
Love you guys.
Go check out Jacobon May 2nd at Hedges.

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