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This episode focuses on why eye injuries still happen—even when eye protection is required. Drawing from real-world experience in the military, professional eyecare offices, emergency response, and industrial settings, Joe and Jen discuss that the issue isn’t just whether PPE is worn—but how hazards are evaluated, how PPE is selected, and how people actually use it in real conditions.
Key Takeaways
1. Stop focusing on the task—focus on how injuries actually happen
Most programs list tasks + required PPE, but miss how the injury could occur.
2. “Safety glasses” ≠ real eye protection
Not all eye protection is equal:
Z87.1-rated glasses → impact protection
Basic glasses → minimal protection (dust/debris)
3. PPE is the LAST control—not the first
The goal is to prevent the hazard, not just cover it with PPE
4. Human behavior is the biggest risk factor
Common real-world behaviors causing eye injuries:
Touching eyes with contaminated gloves
Removing PPE with dirty hands
Rubbing eyes due to irritation (dust, allergens, fatigue)
Complacency from repetitive tasks
5. Comfort & fit directly impact compliance
One-size-fits-all PPE doesn’t work
Poor fit leads to:
Headaches
Slipping glasses
Workers modifying PPE
6. Storage & handling of PPE
Scratched, dirty, or contaminated eyewear creates new hazards
7. One job can require multiple types of eye protection
Tasks change quickly → PPE needs change too
Example within one hour:
Safety glasses → face shield → goggles
8. Overloading PPE can create new risks
Too much PPE = reduced visibility + discomfort
9. Training needs to go beyond “what to wear”
Most training = how to wear PPE
Missing piece = why and how injuries actually occur
This video is intended for educational purposes. Solutions offered are not designed to take the place of an attorney or medical professional, and should not be taken as legal or medical advice. It is recommended that viewers consult a safety consultant, medical provider or an occupational safety legal team as applicable to help navigate their specific circumstances.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
All right, welcome back to the channel.
This week we are going to talkabout something near and dear to
Joe that most.
SPEAKER_00 (00:05):
Something we can see this makes a difference.
SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
Something we can see that makes a difference.
And it's something that mostpeople don't know that he knows
anything about, and that iseyes, eye protection.
So here we go.
Let's break it down.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
All right, welcome back this week.
Um, real quick, I was in themilitary.
I was a corpsman in the Navy.
I got a lot of education andeyes, just as general corpsman.
And then I went to more advancedtraining on eyes and glasses and
PPE.
Yep.
And then I wrote an ambulanceand got to deal with stuff with
eyes.
And then I got to go in the foodindustry and deal with eyes.
SPEAKER_01 (00:44):
Deal with stuff with eyes, yes.
SPEAKER_00 (00:45):
So I've had a lot of experience in that.
And actually, the way I paid myway through college was working
at an eye doctor and optometristand making glasses and scoping.
Doing all the things.
SPEAKER_01 (00:54):
Yeah.
So, I mean, from just talking toyou since we're married, I can
tell you, I know that you'veseen some stuff when you run an
ambulances of those prettyinconceivable and horrific in
the worst way.
And some of some of the worstwas eye stuff.
Yes.
Honestly.
SPEAKER_00 (01:10):
It's amazing how you can hurt a lot of your body, but
if you get anything in your eye,you just want to stop
everything.
Yeah.
So today's episode is threecontrols.
The first one is Are you readyfor this one?
SPEAKER_01 (01:23):
On the edge of my seat.
Okay, she doesn't have a lot ofthings.
Here we go.
I really don't.
SPEAKER_00 (01:27):
The first one is evaluating all the tasks that
could cause the eye injury.
If I go look at a plant'sprogram, they have a PPE
program, they have PPassessments, and they have jog
tests, but they really don'tlook at what could cause the
injury.
Yeah.
They spend more time on what isthe task.
I spend more time when I'mwalking by.
Yeah.
Like how kitty get an eyeinjury.
SPEAKER_01 (01:49):
So I think that it's important here to make the
comment that there are twothings that locations have that
I have seen.
They have some have PPEassessments, some have risk
assessments that include PPE,and then some have just SOPs for
the job that list the PPE, andwe're not sure how we identified
that's what we're wearing.
It's just in the paperwork.
SPEAKER_00 (02:10):
It's like everything is solved by safety glasses.
unknown (02:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (02:13):
And and and to me, when you're looking at the
systems of well, and that andthat's I think really, let's
just pause right there.
SPEAKER_01 (02:20):
Safety glasses is not the same as IPS.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
But this is about when you look at the so if I
walk by somebody doing a job,whether I like or not, because
of my background, I'm looking athow they can hurt themselves as
an eye injury.
For example, maybe theworkstation they're working at,
they have to turn to the rightevery so often.
Every once in a while they haveto bend down.
But if that edge is a littlesharp or not ground off
completely, you get an eyeinjury because they lean down.
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
Yeah, or it's like scratched up in this area.
SPEAKER_00 (02:48):
Maybe maybe it's their handling a knife.
They don't think about that.
They have an itch somewhere ortheir glasses we've seen, we've
seen that tip of the blade.
SPEAKER_01 (02:57):
It's either face like, what are you doing?
Yeah.
So we we get so it's it's it'scomplacency, it's comfort.
Yeah.
unknown (03:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (03:05):
So they're so comfortable with that.
It's like an extension.
Yeah, we'll have the mesh glove.
I just don't have mesh on theirface, but I mean they're not
thinking about it.
SPEAKER_00 (03:15):
So when I walk by a grinder, yes, the guard's
important.
That's how they use it.
Important, I really look at isthere like a firewatch nearby
and are they gonna get hit ifsomething happens with the piece
that comes off the ground?
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
How close are they standing?
SPEAKER_00 (03:27):
Or if they're grinding the pipe, the remove,
the product of the pipe comingoff and hit them.
I'm looking for things likethat, not just oh, the firewash
stands right here.
That's because we have to haveone if it's a hot work, but he
could get hurt by because wedon't always think about where
they stand, where they're I'mlooking at those kind of things.
SPEAKER_01 (03:42):
Well, and so let's expand on that just a little
bit.
Of sometimes we don't alwaysrequire safety glasses or eye
protection in all of the areasthat we might be doing some kind
of hot work, grinding, whatever.
And so if that's outside, youcould argue that some locations,
(04:02):
some locations do say this thatthey don't need to have some of
that on when they're outside.
Or it could be a break areaoutside.
Yeah, and they're not the onedoing the hot work, they're
standing back.
Well, are they standing back farenough?
Or should they really have somestuff?
SPEAKER_00 (04:15):
That's what I look at.
So when I walk by, if you'reever with me on site, I I can't
turn that off.
I've seen that so much in mylife, spent so many hours
studying it, so many hoursreading about it, working it.
SPEAKER_01 (04:26):
It's the wiped down with some kind of chemical with
on my glove, and then I itch myeye.
Like, I don't know whyeverybody's eyes, I mean, like I
guess allergies, I don't know,especially if they're in the
Midwest during August rag wingseason.
I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_00 (04:39):
But yeah, it's it's everything goes back to like
somehow touching our eye, and weforget what's on our hands,
what's in our I've seen peoplein the morning get done with the
job task, rip the PPE off theireyes like goggles, but their
hands are covered in chemical,so they dumped it in their eye
when they I mean, so it'slooking at the job and don't
(05:00):
look at it like what is the PPE?
Who cares?
I mean, I care.
SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
You can you care.
SPEAKER_00 (05:05):
I really care about the task they're doing to
prevent the injury.
Okay, so they had PPE lastresort.
SPEAKER_01 (05:12):
Yeah, so let's back it up just a little bit.
Some of that goes back totraining.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (05:17):
So yes, it's important.
Here's your hearing protection,here's how you squeeze it, put
it in your ear.
Here's your safety glasses, wearthem on your face.
We should be going beyond someof that and say, like, here's
why you're wearing it.
Here's some of the weirdbehavior that you'd never
believe happens, but it doeshappen and we've seen it.
And so, like, just be cognizantof some of these things.
(05:38):
And maybe that's a toolbox talkas a periodic reminder.
Maybe that can look like a wholelot of different things.
But you forget sometimes whenyou do some of these job tasks
for hours every day, but itstops being a hazard.
SPEAKER_00 (05:50):
So, my next one is you have to be realistic,
whatever you put on their face.
SPEAKER_01 (05:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:56):
Because I have about, you know, 15 pairs of
glasses because I'm a highperson.
Yeah, and some fit good on mynose, some fit good on my ear,
and some are some are likepushing and give you a headache.
I wear outside a headache.
So just say one pair of glassesor one thing is good for
everybody, is is not real.
So they modify it.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, they do.
SPEAKER_01 (06:16):
I don't want to see they build up the nose pieces
I've seen.
SPEAKER_00 (06:18):
Yeah, or they or they find a way.
So I'm looking for how theymodified it and did they change
the risk of and did the glasses,or you see the glasses so far
down, but they're wearing them,and you're like, but is it
really doing anything?
So that's what I'm looking at.
In reality, it foggy.
I see that in a lot of times.
I go from a hot room to a coldroom, but they make me wear
these glasses, but I can't see.
(06:40):
Is that really the right tool atthat moment?
SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
Or for my ladies that have fake eyelashes on,
some locations still aware uhallow those, not all, but some
do.
And I can tell you they rub onsafety glasses some of the
different styles that you get,and it's irritating.
So then the glasses start comingdown, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
Yeah, I will say I absolutely so like for me,
you're looking at me right now,I'm wearing glasses.
Yes.
Um, these may not be Z87.1frames, but I only buy polycarp
because that's I know itprotects your eye the most.
SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
Yeah, I know we do weird stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:16):
So even though it's not required me to have it in
these, my daily life when I'mwalking around because I never
know what I'm gonna do.
Even at the house, you neverknow random stuff.
Right.
I'm always looking for theprotection side of it.
SPEAKER_01 (07:28):
Yeah.
Well, and we live on acreage, sothere's always some kind of
weird job.
Let me just do this real quick.
SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
So that's what I would so look at so make sure
that the the the job taskreality what you're doing.
Not really, what is thesolution?
Whatever that solution youdecide actually works.
You'll see people say, Well,just add glasses to them, or
just do that with the don't makesure it works.
SPEAKER_01 (07:49):
What kind?
So let's real quick break downwhat's the difference between
eye protection and safetyglasses, because there is a
difference there, and it doesmatter when you put that on your
PP assessment or your SOPs forrequired PPE.
It does matter.
SPEAKER_00 (08:04):
Correct.
The biggest difference is theZ87.1 can take a hit.
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
Yeah, it's impact.
SPEAKER_00 (08:09):
Yeah, and the other's more just as a crazy.
It's kind of like a bump caphard hat kind of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (08:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:13):
I mean, and so and you that's a great way to think
of it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
The per it's one is to just keep stuff just from
whatever dust, whatever justrandom things that work.
SPEAKER_00 (08:22):
You're working wall water and water gets in front of
you.
SPEAKER_01 (08:25):
Yes, it's not expected that it's gonna be all
the time, otherwise we'd putgoggles on, but you just never
know.
Right.
And we just want to make sureyou're good.
Well, that's a that's adifferent thing.
Then I expect to take a hit andsomething could be shooting on
my face.
That's different.
So now the third one then begsthe question well, maybe you
need to look at a shield.
SPEAKER_00 (08:43):
Right.
So now we go back to the thirdone, PPE.
Yeah.
Now I could have the same job.
I could have I wear theseglasses, put a shield because
I'm washing something out forsanitation for splash.
Now I'm going to do a task withchemical.
Now I have to change and put agoggle over these.
And now I've decided that I'mjust gonna sweep stuff above me
(09:06):
and get good compensation.
I may just be wearing theseglasses.
So I could have three versionswithin an hour window of an eye
protection issue.
But the other thing you gottaremember is how do you store
them?
Is why it's important.
SPEAKER_01 (09:21):
Yeah, while you're out doing the job, where are
they going?
Because I gotta put them lateron my face.
Right.
So they can't get it.
SPEAKER_00 (09:28):
So I yes, PPE is important to me, but I spend
more time seeing injuries on thestorage of it, or you have the
goggles up here that everybodysees all the time.
Yeah.
Well, those are stretched out ifyou always do this actually.
Oh, yeah, you gotta they'regonna be stretched out.
There's gonna be a time whereyou put them on and they go down
here.
Are you really your PPE?
Well, how you're storing howyou're storing it.
SPEAKER_01 (09:48):
How you're storing it, is it getting scratched
based on how you're doing it?
Or is it getting covered insmudges?
So now you're taking it off andusing whatever that could be
covered in whatever.
That's correct, you know, andthen so now you're rubbing
whatever's on your clothing orrain gear, whatever, you're
rubbing it all over your stuff.
You're like, okay, so yeah, Imean, and it matters to me based
(10:11):
on what we require people towear, because if you have the
wrong stuff and it's on yourface for a prolonged period of
time or on your head, it givesyou a headache.
So we really do want to makesure that what we have works,
but it we're it it's not liketoo much.
SPEAKER_00 (10:26):
Because that's that's because I see that
sometimes everybody needs towear glasses one.
Like, yeah, but that person doesno job that needs it.
SPEAKER_01 (10:36):
Well, or we've gotta have yeah, you've gotta have
glasses and a shield and thething at all.
I mean yeah, can you even seeanymore?
So, yeah, it's really, really,truly it's gotta be a task
evaluation for the eyes andface.
Truly, what's the risk here isthat we make sure how we're
gonna change things in and out,and then also identifying if we
(10:59):
are changing things in and outwhere that storage location is.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (11:02):
Because when you're mobile at a plant or a farm or a
mill, uh I mean, I am, and whenI'm walking around, I have to be
conscious about because I usedto just put my glasses in my
side pockets and I just scratchthem all up.
I just get two glasses overthree or two.
All the time.
SPEAKER_01 (11:17):
Yeah, scratch.
SPEAKER_00 (11:17):
Because I had to put them somewhere because I had to
put on another kind for the roomI was going in.
I'd take out so it's thatconcept of how it moves and how
it flows.
SPEAKER_01 (11:24):
Up to and including all of those rooms off to the
side.
You got to now evaluate, okay,if we're not gonna have them
carry them on them, where canthey store them?
That's an easy one.
But do we really want justrandom access into some of these
shops that are right off thefloor, some of the pump rooms,
mechanical rooms right off theproduction floors?
(11:44):
Maybe we don't.
So we've got to identify a spacefor them to do some of that.
So yeah, all of that makesperfect sense.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (11:49):
So that's that's how I look at it.
So if you're ever with me, don'tdon't like safety glasses.
unknown (11:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (11:55):
But I want you to do or eye protection required in
this area, and you're like, butwhy are you?
For what?
So let break down your people.
It's a comfort issue.
For me, it's a headache issue ifI were the wrong kind.
SPEAKER_01 (12:05):
Up to and including if the people are wearing
glasses, we need to beidentifying are we really do
they really need to change thoseout and put something on their
face?
Whatever they're being exposedto, is it so catastrophic that
we would rather them not havetheir regular glasses on and
have all this extra weird stuffthat's heavy on their head for
(12:26):
hours.
All right, hit it.
SPEAKER_00 (12:28):
If you wear a respirator, I can't see without
these glasses anymore.
Right.
Get me an insert into my mask,please see.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
So they're not just walking in and can't see a
thing.
Absolutely.
Spectacle kits work with yourclinicians.
Yes.
And yeah, there's a way to goabout it.
Absolutely.
Now I need a spectacle kit.
Now I need something.
SPEAKER_00 (12:55):
I used to make those military.
That's why I know.
SPEAKER_01 (12:56):
Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
I used to make hundreds of them a week.
Yeah, there you go.
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All right, welcome back to the channel.
This week we are going to talkabout something near and dear to
Joe that most.
SPEAKER_00 (00:05):
Something we can see this makes a difference.
SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
Something we can see that makes a difference.
And it's something that mostpeople don't know that he knows
anything about, and that iseyes, eye protection.
So here we go.
Let's break it down.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
All right, welcome back this week.
Um, real quick, I was in themilitary.
I was a corpsman in the Navy.
I got a lot of education andeyes, just as general corpsman.
And then I went to more advancedtraining on eyes and glasses and
PPE.
Yep.
And then I wrote an ambulanceand got to deal with stuff with
eyes.
And then I got to go in the foodindustry and deal with eyes.
SPEAKER_01 (00:44):
Deal with stuff with eyes, yes.
SPEAKER_00 (00:45):
So I've had a lot of experience in that.
And actually, the way I paid myway through college was working
at an eye doctor and optometristand making glasses and scoping.
Doing all the things.
SPEAKER_01 (00:54):
Yeah.
So, I mean, from just talking toyou since we're married, I can
tell you, I know that you'veseen some stuff when you run an
ambulances of those prettyinconceivable and horrific in
the worst way.
And some of some of the worstwas eye stuff.
Yes.
Honestly.
SPEAKER_00 (01:10):
It's amazing how you can hurt a lot of your body, but
if you get anything in your eye,you just want to stop
everything.
Yeah.
So today's episode is threecontrols.
The first one is Are you readyfor this one?
SPEAKER_01 (01:23):
On the edge of my seat.
Okay, she doesn't have a lot ofthings.
Here we go.
I really don't.
SPEAKER_00 (01:27):
The first one is evaluating all the tasks that
could cause the eye injury.
If I go look at a plant'sprogram, they have a PPE
program, they have PPassessments, and they have jog
tests, but they really don'tlook at what could cause the
injury.
Yeah.
They spend more time on what isthe task.
I spend more time when I'mwalking by.
Yeah.
Like how kitty get an eyeinjury.
SPEAKER_01 (01:49):
So I think that it's important here to make the
comment that there are twothings that locations have that
I have seen.
They have some have PPEassessments, some have risk
assessments that include PPE,and then some have just SOPs for
the job that list the PPE, andwe're not sure how we identified
that's what we're wearing.
It's just in the paperwork.
SPEAKER_00 (02:10):
It's like everything is solved by safety glasses.
unknown (02:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (02:13):
And and and to me, when you're looking at the
systems of well, and that andthat's I think really, let's
just pause right there.
SPEAKER_01 (02:20):
Safety glasses is not the same as IPS.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
But this is about when you look at the so if I
walk by somebody doing a job,whether I like or not, because
of my background, I'm looking athow they can hurt themselves as
an eye injury.
For example, maybe theworkstation they're working at,
they have to turn to the rightevery so often.
Every once in a while they haveto bend down.
But if that edge is a littlesharp or not ground off
completely, you get an eyeinjury because they lean down.
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
Yeah, or it's like scratched up in this area.
SPEAKER_00 (02:48):
Maybe maybe it's their handling a knife.
They don't think about that.
They have an itch somewhere ortheir glasses we've seen, we've
seen that tip of the blade.
SPEAKER_01 (02:57):
It's either face like, what are you doing?
Yeah.
So we we get so it's it's it'scomplacency, it's comfort.
Yeah.
unknown (03:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (03:05):
So they're so comfortable with that.
It's like an extension.
Yeah, we'll have the mesh glove.
I just don't have mesh on theirface, but I mean they're not
thinking about it.
SPEAKER_00 (03:15):
So when I walk by a grinder, yes, the guard's
important.
That's how they use it.
Important, I really look at isthere like a firewatch nearby
and are they gonna get hit ifsomething happens with the piece
that comes off the ground?
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
How close are they standing?
SPEAKER_00 (03:27):
Or if they're grinding the pipe, the remove,
the product of the pipe comingoff and hit them.
I'm looking for things likethat, not just oh, the firewash
stands right here.
That's because we have to haveone if it's a hot work, but he
could get hurt by because wedon't always think about where
they stand, where they're I'mlooking at those kind of things.
SPEAKER_01 (03:42):
Well, and so let's expand on that just a little
bit.
Of sometimes we don't alwaysrequire safety glasses or eye
protection in all of the areasthat we might be doing some kind
of hot work, grinding, whatever.
And so if that's outside, youcould argue that some locations,
(04:02):
some locations do say this thatthey don't need to have some of
that on when they're outside.
Or it could be a break areaoutside.
Yeah, and they're not the onedoing the hot work, they're
standing back.
Well, are they standing back farenough?
Or should they really have somestuff?
SPEAKER_00 (04:15):
That's what I look at.
So when I walk by, if you'reever with me on site, I I can't
turn that off.
I've seen that so much in mylife, spent so many hours
studying it, so many hoursreading about it, working it.
SPEAKER_01 (04:26):
It's the wiped down with some kind of chemical with
on my glove, and then I itch myeye.
Like, I don't know whyeverybody's eyes, I mean, like I
guess allergies, I don't know,especially if they're in the
Midwest during August rag wingseason.
I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_00 (04:39):
But yeah, it's it's everything goes back to like
somehow touching our eye, and weforget what's on our hands,
what's in our I've seen peoplein the morning get done with the
job task, rip the PPE off theireyes like goggles, but their
hands are covered in chemical,so they dumped it in their eye
when they I mean, so it'slooking at the job and don't
(05:00):
look at it like what is the PPE?
Who cares?
I mean, I care.
SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
You can you care.
SPEAKER_00 (05:05):
I really care about the task they're doing to
prevent the injury.
Okay, so they had PPE lastresort.
SPEAKER_01 (05:12):
Yeah, so let's back it up just a little bit.
Some of that goes back totraining.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (05:17):
So yes, it's important.
Here's your hearing protection,here's how you squeeze it, put
it in your ear.
Here's your safety glasses, wearthem on your face.
We should be going beyond someof that and say, like, here's
why you're wearing it.
Here's some of the weirdbehavior that you'd never
believe happens, but it doeshappen and we've seen it.
And so, like, just be cognizantof some of these things.
(05:38):
And maybe that's a toolbox talkas a periodic reminder.
Maybe that can look like a wholelot of different things.
But you forget sometimes whenyou do some of these job tasks
for hours every day, but itstops being a hazard.
SPEAKER_00 (05:50):
So, my next one is you have to be realistic,
whatever you put on their face.
SPEAKER_01 (05:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:56):
Because I have about, you know, 15 pairs of
glasses because I'm a highperson.
Yeah, and some fit good on mynose, some fit good on my ear,
and some are some are likepushing and give you a headache.
I wear outside a headache.
So just say one pair of glassesor one thing is good for
everybody, is is not real.
So they modify it.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, they do.
SPEAKER_01 (06:16):
I don't want to see they build up the nose pieces
I've seen.
SPEAKER_00 (06:18):
Yeah, or they or they find a way.
So I'm looking for how theymodified it and did they change
the risk of and did the glasses,or you see the glasses so far
down, but they're wearing them,and you're like, but is it
really doing anything?
So that's what I'm looking at.
In reality, it foggy.
I see that in a lot of times.
I go from a hot room to a coldroom, but they make me wear
these glasses, but I can't see.
(06:40):
Is that really the right tool atthat moment?
SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
Or for my ladies that have fake eyelashes on,
some locations still aware uhallow those, not all, but some
do.
And I can tell you they rub onsafety glasses some of the
different styles that you get,and it's irritating.
So then the glasses start comingdown, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
Yeah, I will say I absolutely so like for me,
you're looking at me right now,I'm wearing glasses.
Yes.
Um, these may not be Z87.1frames, but I only buy polycarp
because that's I know itprotects your eye the most.
SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
Yeah, I know we do weird stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:16):
So even though it's not required me to have it in
these, my daily life when I'mwalking around because I never
know what I'm gonna do.
Even at the house, you neverknow random stuff.
Right.
I'm always looking for theprotection side of it.
SPEAKER_01 (07:28):
Yeah.
Well, and we live on acreage, sothere's always some kind of
weird job.
Let me just do this real quick.
SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
So that's what I would so look at so make sure
that the the the job taskreality what you're doing.
Not really, what is thesolution?
Whatever that solution youdecide actually works.
You'll see people say, Well,just add glasses to them, or
just do that with the don't makesure it works.
SPEAKER_01 (07:49):
What kind?
So let's real quick break downwhat's the difference between
eye protection and safetyglasses, because there is a
difference there, and it doesmatter when you put that on your
PP assessment or your SOPs forrequired PPE.
It does matter.
SPEAKER_00 (08:04):
Correct.
The biggest difference is theZ87.1 can take a hit.
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
Yeah, it's impact.
SPEAKER_00 (08:09):
Yeah, and the other's more just as a crazy.
It's kind of like a bump caphard hat kind of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (08:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:13):
I mean, and so and you that's a great way to think
of it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
The per it's one is to just keep stuff just from
whatever dust, whatever justrandom things that work.
SPEAKER_00 (08:22):
You're working wall water and water gets in front of
you.
SPEAKER_01 (08:25):
Yes, it's not expected that it's gonna be all
the time, otherwise we'd putgoggles on, but you just never
know.
Right.
And we just want to make sureyou're good.
Well, that's a that's adifferent thing.
Then I expect to take a hit andsomething could be shooting on
my face.
That's different.
So now the third one then begsthe question well, maybe you
need to look at a shield.
SPEAKER_00 (08:43):
Right.
So now we go back to the thirdone, PPE.
Yeah.
Now I could have the same job.
I could have I wear theseglasses, put a shield because
I'm washing something out forsanitation for splash.
Now I'm going to do a task withchemical.
Now I have to change and put agoggle over these.
And now I've decided that I'mjust gonna sweep stuff above me
(09:06):
and get good compensation.
I may just be wearing theseglasses.
So I could have three versionswithin an hour window of an eye
protection issue.
But the other thing you gottaremember is how do you store
them?
Is why it's important.
SPEAKER_01 (09:21):
Yeah, while you're out doing the job, where are
they going?
Because I gotta put them lateron my face.
Right.
So they can't get it.
SPEAKER_00 (09:28):
So I yes, PPE is important to me, but I spend
more time seeing injuries on thestorage of it, or you have the
goggles up here that everybodysees all the time.
Yeah.
Well, those are stretched out ifyou always do this actually.
Oh, yeah, you gotta they'regonna be stretched out.
There's gonna be a time whereyou put them on and they go down
here.
Are you really your PPE?
Well, how you're storing howyou're storing it.
SPEAKER_01 (09:48):
How you're storing it, is it getting scratched
based on how you're doing it?
Or is it getting covered insmudges?
So now you're taking it off andusing whatever that could be
covered in whatever.
That's correct, you know, andthen so now you're rubbing
whatever's on your clothing orrain gear, whatever, you're
rubbing it all over your stuff.
You're like, okay, so yeah, Imean, and it matters to me based
(10:11):
on what we require people towear, because if you have the
wrong stuff and it's on yourface for a prolonged period of
time or on your head, it givesyou a headache.
So we really do want to makesure that what we have works,
but it we're it it's not liketoo much.
SPEAKER_00 (10:26):
Because that's that's because I see that
sometimes everybody needs towear glasses one.
Like, yeah, but that person doesno job that needs it.
SPEAKER_01 (10:36):
Well, or we've gotta have yeah, you've gotta have
glasses and a shield and thething at all.
I mean yeah, can you even seeanymore?
So, yeah, it's really, really,truly it's gotta be a task
evaluation for the eyes andface.
Truly, what's the risk here isthat we make sure how we're
gonna change things in and out,and then also identifying if we
(10:59):
are changing things in and outwhere that storage location is.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (11:02):
Because when you're mobile at a plant or a farm or a
mill, uh I mean, I am, and whenI'm walking around, I have to be
conscious about because I usedto just put my glasses in my
side pockets and I just scratchthem all up.
I just get two glasses overthree or two.
All the time.
SPEAKER_01 (11:17):
Yeah, scratch.
SPEAKER_00 (11:17):
Because I had to put them somewhere because I had to
put on another kind for the roomI was going in.
I'd take out so it's thatconcept of how it moves and how
it flows.
SPEAKER_01 (11:24):
Up to and including all of those rooms off to the
side.
You got to now evaluate, okay,if we're not gonna have them
carry them on them, where canthey store them?
That's an easy one.
But do we really want justrandom access into some of these
shops that are right off thefloor, some of the pump rooms,
mechanical rooms right off theproduction floors?
(11:44):
Maybe we don't.
So we've got to identify a spacefor them to do some of that.
So yeah, all of that makesperfect sense.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (11:49):
So that's that's how I look at it.
So if you're ever with me, don'tdon't like safety glasses.
unknown (11:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (11:55):
But I want you to do or eye protection required in
this area, and you're like, butwhy are you?
For what?
So let break down your people.
It's a comfort issue.
For me, it's a headache issue ifI were the wrong kind.
SPEAKER_01 (12:05):
Up to and including if the people are wearing
glasses, we need to beidentifying are we really do
they really need to change thoseout and put something on their
face?
Whatever they're being exposedto, is it so catastrophic that
we would rather them not havetheir regular glasses on and
have all this extra weird stuffthat's heavy on their head for
(12:26):
hours.
All right, hit it.
SPEAKER_00 (12:28):
If you wear a respirator, I can't see without
these glasses anymore.
Right.
Get me an insert into my mask,please see.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
So they're not just walking in and can't see a
thing.
Absolutely.
Spectacle kits work with yourclinicians.
Yes.
And yeah, there's a way to goabout it.
Absolutely.
Now I need a spectacle kit.
Now I need something.
SPEAKER_00 (12:55):
I used to make those military.
That's why I know.
SPEAKER_01 (12:56):
Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
I used to make hundreds of them a week.
Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER_01 (13:00):
All right, that's right.
All right, so that's it.
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if you could share, subscribe,like, all those things, any kind
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It really does help get theepisodes to those that need to
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And that is the only reason whywe're doing this is we want to
make sure that those who needthe information that don't know
and aren't aware that there's aresource out there, that we get
(13:22):
the information to them.
So doing that really absolutelyhelps.
And then if you want to gobeyond that, um, we do have
merchandise available.
Um, Alan Safety.com on themerchandise page has something
for everybody from snow globesto baby onesies for baby showers
to t-shirts, shower curtains,coffee.
I mean, like you name it, wehave it because we feel like
(13:43):
safety should not be, you know,just kind of we wanted to have a
little bit of flair to it.
So you can check us out there oron Amazon if you have Amazon.
Um, we've got an Amazon storethere as well.
And until next time, guys, staysafe.
Thank you.
And we'll see you later.
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