Once Around the Ride: A Conversation with Tracy from Voices by Tracy

This week, Sean and Todd welcome back one of the show's most beloved guests — Tracy from Voices by Tracy. A bilingual voice actor based out of Montreal, Tracy holds the record for most appearances on SeanGeek and FastFret, and this episode proves exactly why.

What starts as a trip down memory lane quickly becomes one of the most wide-ranging, heartfelt, and laugh-out-loud episodes the show has ever produced.

We dive deep into the music that shaped a generation — Chilliwack, Headpins, Rush, Cinderella, Winger, Slaughter, Alice in Chains, Tesla, Triumph, and more — but this episode is about much more than music. It's about the friendships, the memories, and the moments that music soundtracks.

This week we cover:

• The cassette tapes that started it all — how a Chevette, a tape deck, and a trip to Moncton shaped Todd's musical DNA
• Tracy's legendary street encounter with Kip Winger and Paul Taylor — and what happened when she opened her mouth
• The night Beavis and Butt-Head killed Winger's career overnight — from sold-out shows to empty rooms in 48 hours
• The resurgence of hair metal — Monsters of Rock Cruise, Sebastian Bach and Slaughter coming to Winnipeg June 17th
• Tim Kelly of Slaughter — a tribute to the guitarist lost too soon
• Alice in Chains covering Rush's Tears — and why Jerry Cantrell remains the most talked-about guitarist of the grunge era
• Whale and Wasp from Jar of Flies — the instrumental that gets Sean every single time
• The seven year cellular theory — and what it has to do with relationships, reinvention, and finding yourself
• Tracy's story of rebuilding from the ground up during the pandemic — the three pillars that saved her
• Sean's story of living in his car for two weeks after losing his marriage and job in the same week — and why he never told anyone
• Todd's transformation — and why the smile says everything
• The Patreon tiers — Certified Geek ($5), True Geek ($10), Supreme Geek ($20), and yes, the legendary $75 Metal Shoppe song suggestion tier
• Tracy does a live movie trailer voice for SeanGeek and FastFret — and absolutely nails it

Pass or Go: Cinderella's Once Around the Ride — Tracy says go. Immediately.

Music featured this episode: Chilliwack, Headpins, Rush, Cinderella, Winger, Slaughter, Alice in Chains, Tesla, Triumph, Mr. Big, In This Moment, Coroner

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Takeaways:

• The podcast dives deep into the evolution of music trends over the decades, highlighting how genres like grunge impacted hair metal bands like Winger.
• We share personal anecdotes about our favorite music memories and how they shaped our lives, emphasizing the power of nostalgia.
• There's a hilarious segment about a dentist visit where one of the speakers humorously recounts an unexpected encounter with nitrous oxide.
• Listeners are encouraged to engage with us on Patreon, where they can submit topics and participate in our interactive discussions.
• One of the key themes is the importance of resilience and personal growth, with reflections on overcoming challenges and embracing change.
• We discuss the influence of various iconic bands, sharing our love for artists like Cinderella and the impact they had on our musical journeys.

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Listen to the Sean, Sean Geek.
The Sean Geeking Crash Site Podcast.
Yeah, you got it, folks.
It's me again with a littleaptitude for all you out here in
white bread land.
Let's see, we're on 92 FM.
Feels like a nice, cleanlittle band so far.
No one else is using it.

(00:21):
The price is right.
Don't you find it, crusty Dave?
This is bigger than friendship.
This is what you call cousin.
And the Buddhist is called,let me see.
Reincarnation.
Mushi.
Mushi.

(00:43):
Hey, wait a minute.
Since when is Pismo beachinside a cave, I wonder?
You know, I just think weshould have turned left at Albuquerque
and then maybe a right turn atLa Jola.

(01:08):
Shush.
Hush, please.
The Champ.
Ever since I've been thechamp, been losing it.
Been out of my mind.
Been crazy.
Been.
Been really, really, really,really in pain with my teeth.
I've had a lot of problemswith my teeth lately.
And, you know, you probablyheard every one of them, me going
to the dentist and.

(01:28):
And, you know, I never.
I never believed in the toothfairy until I've seen my dentist
walk, right?
Anyway, he comes over to meand he says, champ, would you like
some nitrous oxide?
I said, well, I'm not intodrugs, right?
I don't like the drugs.
I don't like the gas thing, right?
He said, I got to give you theneedle, champ.
You're a big, tough boy.

(01:50):
I remember when you foughtListon, right?
You fought Liston.
He went down, he snapped.
You get back up, and he hityou so many times, I couldn't believe
the pain you could take.
I said, doc, tell me how muchpain I'm gonna feel.
He said, well, you might feela small prick in your mouth.
Said, pardon?
I said, pardon.

(02:12):
He said, you might feel asmall prick in your mouth.
Well, I lose it.
I snap.
I grab the nitrous oxide, right?
I put it right on his face.
He's laughing.
He's just laughing.
He's floating around the room.
Here comes the doublehammerhead scissor kick to the groin,

(02:32):
right?
I hit him so many times on theright, he was begging for a left.
Put him down in the dentist chair.
Spun him around, he was still laughing.
I stopped him with my bignumber 12.
Boom.
Right there on the ground.
I said, how's that, pal?
Does that look like I'll feela small prick in my mouth Enough
for you?
Ever since I've been the champ.

(02:53):
There you go.
That was great.
There you go.
Kind of sound like Jesse Ventura.
I think that's exactly What?
He was going for the ministerof Minnesota.
Governor of Minnesota.
Oh, really?
Oh.
Oh, my God.
Jesse the Bod.
Yeah, the body.
They started calling himselfJesse the Brain after that.

(03:13):
Oh, really?
Oh, wow.
Smart man.
Very smart man.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
So, hey.
So, hey, hey, hey, guys.
We didn't play a theme song.
We didn't do anything.
We just jumped right into it.
That's right, Todd.
Hit the ground running.
What do we do?
This is the.
What's our.
What's our show, Todd?
This is the John Geek and Fastfor it podcast.

(03:37):
Gonna have to work on.
Yeah.
Sound effects.
Hey, we're not professionalvoice people like someone else in
that room, so.
No, you guys are awesome.
You guys have a podcast, man.
I mean, that's.
That's.
No, that's.
Everybody has a podcast.
What's so special?
No, not me.

(03:58):
Not yet.
But you see, I'm.
I'm learning from the best.
I'm learning from the greats.
I'm learning from someseasoned pros.
So that's.
You've got a camera and you'vegot a microphone, so you're pretty
much.
But you also have.
You also have the voice, whichmost people can't say they have.
Hi.
I'm gonna run a podcasting.

(04:20):
I was just like, no.
Yes.
I have been told that I dogive good phone.
Yeah.
So for those listening, thisis Tracy from Voices by Tracy.
And she was, at one point theperson who guested the most on this

(04:41):
show.
And then.
Did you get the checks?
Did they come through?
No, they came through.
That's great.
Ah, sweet.
And so it was you.
So.
So, Todd, I'm gonna tell thestory, if I may.
So you know that I revere you, Todd.
Quite a bit.
Yeah.

(05:02):
To the point of embarrassment, usually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Card.
Anyway, so.
So for you.
So I. I've always been afraidto ask, can we play music together?
I've always been afraid toask, can we do the podcast together?
I've always been kind of like,he's not gonna say yes to that.

(05:26):
Like, he's got better to dothan hang around with me.
So that's always been my opinion.
So then I'm like, okay, well,I'm gonna go to my friends and.
And see who's willing to dothe podcast.
So I. I, you know, I like Trace.
Tracy was doing radio, Ithink, at the time.
Yep.
I'm like, shit, I'll get Tracy on.
I think it'll be fun.
We'll talk about, like, youknow, the shitty music that you and

(05:48):
I like and, you know, and.
And you know, talk about thegreatness of Nuno Betancourt or Paul
Gilbert or Rudy Sarzo, EricMartin, like, whatever, right?
Rudy Starzo.
Oh my God, you have so much.
You have so much.
I have dirt on you, whichwe're gonna.
But so I wanted Tracy to doit, but Tracy was busy with stuff

(06:10):
and, you know, life got in theway and so I just ended up doing
it by myself for a while.
And then I'm like, I hit up Corey.
I was trying to get Corey, youknow, Corey Geek himself to try to
get him and.
But he wasn't always available.
I'm like, I just gotta do thison my own.
And then I'm like, well, why.
So then I got Todd.
I asked you, Todd, you want to.

(06:32):
Come on the show and justmaybe show up for an episode?
I think I was all meek and.
And you came on.
You're not usually meek.
Well, with you I.
With you I was.
Oh, back then.
He holds you in high.
Selfless.
He holds you in high regard.
Yeah, you're Todd, man.
Yeah.
Like White lion once said, the entire.
What's.

(06:52):
What's that?
One united world under Todd.
That's the line, isn't it?
In the white lines.
Exactly what Mike Tramp wrote.
That's exactly what he said.
I talked to, you know, Italked to Mike last week and he said,
you know, when I wrote that,when I wrote that song, I wrote the
song, I wrote it in.
In honor of Todd because he'sfrom the Netherlands or something.

(07:13):
Oh, I see.
And that's what he said.
I wrote that song for.
For Todd, you know, but, butyou know, the, the studio made him
change it to God becauseapparently that'd be more accepted.
That's a.
More acceptable.
What?
That's just how rude.
But anyway, so Todd, Toddshowed up a few times and then it's
like,.
Was this during the.
The drive back home or wasthis before that?

(07:35):
This was kind of before that.
And then I'm like, well, thiskind of works.
Like, I. I can't remember howI asked you, but you just kept showing
up.
Because I'll be honest, getrid of them.
You've always shown up foryour brother, Todd, so thank you
very much.
You always show up for me.
Like every fucking time.
I don't even have to ask.
The Getty family, it's justlike strong and rooted in values

(08:01):
and just good, decent people.
But then what really, youknow, made Todd the permanent co
host of the show was when Samtold me, you've got no charisma,
Sean.
It's all odd.
Damn.
You need to change the name ofyour show to the Fast Podcast.
The Fast Red Podcast,featuring Sean, who's your friend.

(08:26):
Son of a bitch.
Yikes.
Sam Solar.
That's his name.
We make fun of him on theMetal Shop.
So Todd.
I have listened to Todd, madehis second appearance on the Metal
Shop, and this might bebetter, even better than the last
one.
What do you think?
Oh, this last.
The other.
Yeah.
This week or last week?

(08:49):
Well, it's.
It's different, that's for sure.
Did you.
Because we were talking about.
Because we were talking aboutPersonas in another podcast.
Yeah.
And this was like.
Okay, because normally when wedo an interview, we're ourselves,
Right.
We're not really trying toportray anyone else.
And this was kind of an odditybecause the Metal Shop is like a

(09:14):
whole different thing.
So it's like characters.
So let me see if I can put my.
My digital pitch shifter.
You got it there?
Yeah, I got it.
You want to give people asample of what it sounds like Blur.
You know, I unpluggedeverything, so it's not really.
You'll have to go listen toMiddle Shop.

(09:34):
It's out today.
It just came out today.
Yeah, there you go.
But I. I think, Todd, you'rereally loose on that episode.
I think you just.
You just totally went with it.
And like I said, like, you.
You made.
You made Alex basically spithis beer out, and I had to clean
the table afterwards.
But now you see, a little too loose.

(09:55):
Oh, Todd was a really greatlyric for a song.
I'm just saying.
A little too loose.
Like turn me loose, but alittle too loose.
And In Oklahoma City, Mr. Big.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, the 90s called.

(10:15):
They want their song back.
So I guess I gotta.
I gotta.
I gotta share my screen andget ready for.
Because we're gonna start talking.
So one of the things that wehad talked about doing.
Yes, Tracy and I talked aboutit and then.
So.
So this episode is brought toyou by the Mighty K. That's it.

(10:37):
Okay.
The Mighty K. So she's a fanof the show.
Todd's familiar with Mighty K.
This show is brought to you bythe letter.
K. By the letter K. It'sbrought to you by the letter K. Letter
K. The mighty K. In the.
The.
I don't know what the rightword is.
I don't know the politicallycorrect term, but I'm going to use
the.
In the.

(10:58):
The uncre or un Criticallypolitically correct term.
The.
That I am.
I already.
I. I go after my fans and Imake Them fans usually, you know,
like, I usually force them tobecome fans, I think.
Stalking.
Yeah, it was called spamming.
Like, I just spam.
So I. I was spamming becauseI'm a huge Mighty K fan, because

(11:21):
she shows up kind of on the InObscuria podcast, which is possibly
my favorite podcast, ordefinitely top five.
And they play clips, audioclips of hers, and I'm like, oh,
my God, I don't know who thisMighty K is, but she's awesome.
Sweet.
So I'm like.
So I messaged her.
What's going.
You know, your little bits onan obscurity are great.
She goes, I don't even knowknow what they're doing.

(11:42):
They're just putting my clipson there.
And I just send the messagesto tell them I like the show.
And then next thing you know,I'm on the show and they take.
Play my clips completely outof context and they tell me that
I hit pedestrians non stop.
Oh, my God.
So now that's her shtick.
But I thought she's like,she's incredibly talented, like Tracy.

(12:02):
Go listen in Obscuria.
I certainly will.
Fantastic show.
Fantastic.
All right, so.
So I. I stalked her because Ithought she was so funny.
And I'm like, I gotta.
I gotta give.
Shout out.
Shout out.
And.
And a place to talk about hermore because she's possibly one of
the best fans for, you know, awhole bunch of podcasts.

(12:24):
Nice.
So.
So this one is for her.
She's enthusiast, she'sdedicated, and she's authentic, and
she's her.
And she likes our music.
Yeah.
Well, then I already.
That's pretty cool.
Love her.
So she asked for us because on.
As.
As an aside, Todd, you and I were.

(12:45):
You were.
Specifically you.
You probably remember this,but I think we're talking to Kevin
Brown maybe.
And you said I was.
I was talking too close to themic because it was popping or something.
Yeah.
So I have to kind of ease back.
Can you.
Can you hear me popping or.
Or is it just when they come close?
It's just when you come close.
Okay.
You have to get a pop filter.

(13:06):
Yeah.
Ah, yes.
Sean has a.
Has one too.
I have a condom on my.
Nice.
Gotta change it every time.
But Todd made the comment.
The music I grew up on was.
What'd you say, Todd?
You said Chilliwack, you saidHeadpins, and you said Rush.
So I.
The.
The producer.

(13:27):
The.
The number two producer inpodcasting, as I was told by Corey
Morissette, I'm the number two.
I inserted a clip of the Threebands you mentioned in the order
you mentioned them in.
And I played like 20 secondsof each song.
So I played.
You know what?
I'm going to play it right now.
Hang on.

(13:48):
This is the song that you mentioned.
That I mentioned.
This is the first song you mentioned.
Okay.
Four men in a rock and roll.

(14:10):
Band Fly at night in themorning we land Fly at night.
So I put that clip in.
Right.
Followed by this one.
Hang on.
I can't see if I would havesuggested that song.
Well, you didn't suggest thatsong specifically.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, because they've got alot of good songs.

(14:32):
But I went just kind of the slower.
Yeah, and I went to that onebecause that is their most popular
song, by the way.
Okay.
Oh, it is.
Oh, yeah.
And then I played this song.
Come on, turn it up, Turn itup Come on, turn it, Turn it down.

(15:07):
Okay.
So safe to say we'reCanadians, we.
Knew both of those songs.
Probably all the words to bothof those songs.
Fair to say, when I firstheard that song, that was when.
You remember Joe Weider,.
Personal friend.
Personal friend.
You know, with all the.
The bodybuilding supplementsand the protein things, whatnot.

(15:31):
So Zap and I.
Well, back in that time iswhen we were kind of working out
type.
Zap is my favorite drummer ofall time.
I'm gonna put it up.
Yeah, he plays with the Yayas now.
Yeah.
In Montreal.
In Montreal, yeah.
Yeah, They're a Rolling Stone.
Oh, really?
Tribute band.
Oh, okay.

(15:52):
I actually know.
So he's the.
The drummers.
Yeah.
So if you.
If you were to go see them,we're doing.
What's that thing called?
Cross promotional plugging?
No, we're doing this.
No, I should have made a left joint.

(16:13):
Yeah, we just did one of those.
So Zap was the first drummerin Todd's band, sometimes called
Overload.
Well, not my band, but yeah, the.
The band that we had.
The band you had.
So Overload.
Or my Toma.
Which.
No, that was the second band.
Anyway, so that was Todd's drummer.
So he's the guy that's playing in.

(16:33):
What do they call the Yayas?
The Ayas.
Yeah.
Rolling Tone.
Rolling Stones.
Street band in Montreal.
Yeah.
Oh, interesting.
So if you see them and youmention Todd's name, they're gonna
freak out.
They'll freak out.
So the head pins reminded meof when I first heard the Headpins.
That was in that era, I guessyou could say.
Yeah.

(16:53):
When was it?
Like, beginning Junior High?
Early 80s.
Yeah.
Early mid-80s.
Yeah.
Wait.
Yeah, that was pre Van Halen,probably Right, Todd?
Pre.
Your discovery event, Hallon.
I mean, because your discoverywas 84, right?
I think so, yeah.
Yeah.
84.
Yeah.
That was my first.

(17:14):
Yeah.
The first album I had was.
Yeah, the 1984 album.
Okay.
So I think it came out in.
Didn't come out in 85 or 83.
I was like a year difference,something like that.
Or that's when we heard it.
Yeah.
So I.
For Christmas.
So.
Okay, so how did.
So this is important and I'm gonna.
I want Tracy to answer thisquestion too, but.
Todd, how the hell did youhear them?

(17:37):
The Head pins?
Now, I can understand hearing Fly.
Fly at Night or whatever by.
By Chilliwack.
Or Chilliwack, as my DK would say.
Now, I can understand youhearing that on the radio, but how
the hell did you hear the head pins?
How was that discovery?
How did that happen?
Mike Bellaville, our seconddrummer, he had a.

(18:04):
They had a.
Was it a cutlass?
81 cutlass, like those oldpolice cars?
Oh, yeah, the Impalas or whatever.
Like the old.
So his dad had one of those,and it had a.
A tape deck in there and he.
Had an eight track.

(18:25):
Yeah.
No, no.
Yeah, actually, that's wild.
I was high end for the early 80s.
He actually had ChilliwackOpus 7.
And then he had.
Oh, he had Opus.
Yeah.
And then he had Head pins.
Turn it Loud, I believe.
Yeah, Turn it.
I think that was his 1982.
Yeah.
And then.
I don't care if it was Rush ornot, but.

(18:45):
And then he had a.
Well, you.
In the.
In the.
In the interview with KevinBrown, you said.
You specifically said thosetwo bands and Rush.
So they must have had the Rushtape, I would think.
Yeah, yeah.
It might have been Fly By Night.
Fly By Night, That's.
That would be my thought.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then Mike eventually had aChevette and we'd go to Moncton,

(19:06):
to the mall.
We'd drive down.
Mike, Norm, myself.
We'd hit McDonald's for the fries.
We'd go to Burger King for the burgers.
And then we'd.
We'd drive and.
Wait a minute.
No, no, rewind.
Rewind.
What?
What?
Say that.
Say that again.
The.
I actually understand.

(19:27):
Well, because you need toexplain for everyone else.
No one else is going to getthis reference.
Okay, well, first of all,while Zapp, we were playing together.
And then.
And then he stopped.
And then we played.
I played with Mike with drums,and Norm was playing bass, and myself,
we all went to Mike's in thebasement because Mike was a Drummer,

(19:47):
of course, it's easier to playin his basement.
So we go there and jam on aFriday night and then after we were
done, get in the.
In the Chevette, which wewould call the vet.
The vet, yes.
It's not a core.
Shove it.
It's not a core.
It's a vet.
You're going to Moncton in the vet.
And of course, when you're.

(20:08):
When you're.
It's like a dog chasing.
Chasing a car.
You wouldn't know what to dowith it when it caught it.
So you're driving by.
Where was this time in.
Sorry, we're promotionallypaid to say the word a bunch of times.
Yes, good.
Up.
Going to go to Moncton.

(20:28):
Scout Oak.
Anyway.
Go.
Yeah, so then from.
So yeah, so we, we drive toMoncton and then like I said, we'd.
Or we go to Burger King firstand then we go to McDonald's.
We bring our Burger King into McDonald's.
What?
No way.
You need cajones to do that.
Are you serious?
Order fries.
I think we did.
Hey, why not?

(20:48):
Such.
I love it.
But I mean, we'd be in the carplaying music and we'd be parked
facing the drive through, Iguess to see who was going through
the drive through.
Wait, that's the excitement.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
To see who's at the drive through?
Like, what do you mean?
Well, after you go through thedrive through, instead of driving
around, we'd park in theparking lot.
Like people scoping for.

(21:09):
For the ladies or chicks.
Well, I mean, yeah, they goby, but it's like, like I said, it's
a dog.
Like a dog chasing, you know,a car.
You know, that's the height of excitement.
Yeah.
So it was like we just kind ofjust drove around and that was kind
of our.
Our Friday night.
So I think we got off the chain.

(21:30):
So funny.
Off the chain.
But yeah, it was.
Those are the good old days.
Oh, my God.
They say, you know, when yougrow older and the older people say,
you know what?
These are the best days ofyour life.
At that point, when you're inthose days, they are not.
Well, you can't appreciate itbecause you've only lived and like,
you can't.

(21:50):
Like the hindsight thing.
Hindsight is 2020 is reallylike, it's really appropriate because
it's like you don't know whatyou've missed because you can't.
You don't have enoughexperience to.
To compare it to.
Yeah, there's no history.
It's it's like, exactly.
You're living in the now.
You're not going, oh, well, ifI knew, you know, then what I knew

(22:11):
now saying, you know, everyonesays it would be a whole different.
You know, it might be.
It might be different, mightnot be.
But it might not be as shy ofa person because it's like, you've
lived life and it's like,what's the point of being shy?
Because when I was younger,like, I wouldn't say shit, I had
a mouthful, so.
But you didn't need to.

(22:32):
You needed to say one word.
And you see, this is.
This is how.
This is how you and I rememberthose times.
You remember that.
And I remember you going, hello.
And then the girl's going, no,no, no.
Let's see, that's honest.
Me and Richard would go, wow,Sean is.

(22:52):
Todd is so slick.
He's so cool.
Maybe one day we can be coollike him.
That's what we used to say.
And of course.
But then your perspective is.
I wouldn't say shit if I had a mouthful.
Yeah, so it's interesting, theperspective, right?
It's not like I'm going aroundgoing, desire.
So you can do that now you.
Get away with Pablo, Francisco.

(23:12):
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, I love Pablo.
I just.
By the way, this is how mybrain works.
You were talking about lifebeing too short to be shy, and it
truly is applicable becauseit's like, we only get.
And I'm gonna throw back to Cinderella.
See, everything is connected.
Once around the ride Only go.

(23:34):
Only get once around the ride.
I just discovered that songtwo weeks ago.
Yeah, I didn't know that song Rediscovered.
No, no, I never heard it.
Todd doesn't know it either,I'm sure.
Dude.
What?
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Okay, hang on.
I heard it and I'm like, areyou kidding me?
How did I know it?
Not.
That was on the first album.

(23:54):
Oh, my God.
I don't know the first album.
I know the singles off the.
Todd, how familiar are youwith the first album of Cinderella?
I. I know it back.
Like anything else, I'd haveto hear a song and go, oh, yeah,
I've heard it.
Or I've never heard it before.
See me the second album.
That was mine.
That was the one I bought thewhite cassette.

(24:15):
You know, whatever.
But I'm going to play.
I'm going to play this for asecond for Todd, because I don't
know who's playing the main.
The lead guitar on this track,but I assume it's Jeff Labar on this
One because it doesn't soundlike Tom.
It sounds like it.
It.
It's shredtastic.
It is.
Okay, I'm going to play it for Todd.
Okay, so this is the pass.

(24:37):
Go see where squeezing in.
Pass or go Todd.
You raise your hand when youwant to stop the song.
Because it's sh.
Or because you it's so good.
You got to talk about it.
You ready?
Okay.
Okay, here we go.
Is that loud enough?
Never let me put it louder.

(25:18):
In the cloud Smart Live wire Ithink baby won't do.
Deserve time with me body justchill just no second time.

(25:48):
I remember the COVID Yeah,.
That cover was actually shotin the daytime.
Yes.
They, they actually managed toget with the smoke and the lights
and like the guys were like,it's daytime.

(26:08):
Like, why aren't we shootingat night?
And it's like.
And yeah, there was a wholevideo that I saw recently.
Constantly talking about howthey managed to.
Get that when they coveredthis song on the Cinderella show
that I listened to with DannyPaps and all those guys, they play
this song.
Wait, can, can we just do thisfor a second?

(26:30):
We can do whatever you want.
We gotta play this because Iwas told this is the catchiest thing
of all time.
Daddy Paps delivering the news.
Daddy.

(26:51):
For who?
Wow.
Sounds great.
It's horrible.
That's what I like about it.
I keep thinking aboutBasketball Jones from Cheech and

(27:14):
Jones.
That's exactly the comment you made.
What is Basketball Jones?
Basketball Jones.
Oh, baby.
You know, one time that waspain Bow.

(27:34):
Oh, God.
Yikes.
Sorry.
Any who.
Much love.
I, I, I want to give a shoutout to the Cinderella podcast.
They're actually calledMixtapes from Hell.
Danny Pabst is one of thegreatest human beings of all time.
And so is his co host, Dwayne.
And so is the the guy, themastermind, Corey Morissette, the
this of the cmpu.
He is the galactus of podcasts.

(27:58):
Big shout out to them.
They're showing Cinderella is fantastic.
I highly recommend it.
I can't wait.
It comes out Thursdays.
Every Thursday.
I absolutely adore, adore Cinderella.
Like, I don't know how I cameabout them, but just they were right
up there with Def Leppard andY and T. And I remember just like

(28:20):
at the back of a bus, becausethat's what you did.
You just like, you know,scribbled the, the logos of your
favorite bands on the backsbecause you had, you know, a pen
with you, supposedly.
Oh, yeah.
And you just copied the logo, right?
That's right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Like, sit at the back of the.
The bus and just.
I'd write Cinderella andFlipper, and now I'm admitted.

(28:42):
Did you ever.
Tracy, did you ever have,like, the iron on patches?
Oh, God, yeah.
Did you.
But the thing is, is I didn'tknow how to sew.
Well, they were iron on.
No.
Okay.
That's not allowed.
I was not allowed.
I was not allowed aroundanything that there was, like, dangerous

(29:03):
or could have incited injuryor whatever.
So I actually still have them,I think, in a box in my.
In my closet that I'm in right now.
And, like, I have, like, little.
What do they call them?
Ebay?
Those, probably.
But yeah, I have, like, a whole.

(29:23):
But I had.
I. I can't even remember.
I think I had, like, this hugepatch of, like.
Like a back patch of Def Leppard.
Like a hole.
Like a big.
Yeah, it was like this bigjean jacket or something.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Oh, my God.
Geez, you just, like, unlockeda whole bunch of memories.
Whoa.
Okay, that just reminded me ofsomething because I forgot to ask

(29:45):
Todd about this.
I'm trying.
It's just.
That was the only thing thatreally brought me out of my shell.
What's that with music?
Amway.
Oh, my God.
Believe it or not.
Wow, you're into pyramidschemes that early?
No.
Well, I was.
How old was I?
Like, 19, 20 years old.

(30:06):
I get suckered into the.
The thing, and then I. I didit for a while, but.
But what would happen was theguy would take me in the parking
lot and just.
Wait a minute.
I'm sorry.
What now?
He did what now?
He said.
Pardon.
Pardon?
I lost it.

(30:34):
I shoved a detergent bottleright up his pipe hole.
Oh, my God.
Does that take about enoughfor you?
Ever since I've been the champ.
Wow.
Okay, stop.
And I'm gonna pe.
That's.
That's incontinence.
That's what happens when youget old.

(30:55):
But anyways, well, he's movingright along.
This doesn't have the otherpart of it.
Okay, okay.
Before.
Before.
Okay, you want to hear it again?
Wait, no, wait.
I'm gonna play this one.
I'm gonna put the Willy Wallerin there.
Yeah.
I've got the fun fact Maxiactually collaborated with him, that
he's actually back now he'srelevant back in the news.

(31:18):
Wait, who's Maxi?
He's the guy.
Maxi is the.
No, not for no frills.
Maybe it's.
It's a grocery.
It's part of the.
The loblaws.
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
Banner.
But, yeah, I don't know whatit's called.
Sorry.

(31:43):
I gotta add the Willy Waller 2000.
Oh, my God.
Well, this is what I was saying.
Like, so basically thisgrocery chain collaborated with him,
like, I want to say, in thelast six months, and they're actually
selling a Willy Waller 2026 inthe store.
I know, right?
And I just.
I'm like, that's true.
I should probably get one just for.

(32:03):
Just for shits and giggles.
And I saw the English versionof it.
It doesn't quite hit home.
Oh, God.
No, it's not the same.
Oh, no.
When you first hear it inFrench, like, if you're.
Yeah.
If you understand what he'ssaying, it's like, just hilarious.
Oh, my God.
This and this.
Like, he came out with thiseven before social media.
So.
Yeah, it was 2000.

(32:24):
No, actually, it was.
I think it was 2006, 2005.
But yeah, I mean, because Iremember I was working downtown,
and it was like, that was theonly thing we could talk about because
it was just so funny and so,like, inventive and new and interesting
and funny as hell.
Yeah, but.
And then he just came out witha whole bunch of them.

(32:45):
And then he came out with hischaracter of what is the.
Basically, like the lizard.
Lounge lizard type of a guy.
It was like, hey, my bel sil.
I'm like.
I was all a garlic bam.
And I'm like, oh, my God.

(33:09):
I'm gonna go come and get youin my BMW.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Just like sleaze bag.
Yeah.
But yes, Larry, before I lose my.
Train of thought, Todd,because we might have to do this
right now live on the air.
Okay.
We're doing it live.
What are you.
What are you doing on June 17, Todd?

(33:31):
Oh, my God.
June 17?
Yeah.
Am I supposed to be going on.
No, no, no.
I just.
I'm bringing this up for thefirst time.
Oh, nothing that I'm aware of.
Do you want to go seeSebastian Bach with opener Slaughter
at the Casino?
Don't tell me you're gonna goand see.
I'm missing it.

(33:52):
They're coming to Toronto on.
On the Friday, but I'm alreadygoing to see Rock of Rock of Ages
on the Friday.
And it was like, Ottawa, Toronto.
And I'm like, it had to be onthe same day.
I know, but that's all right.
So do you want to go?
Totally.
You guys need to go.
Please go.
I think we have to go, and Ithink we need to bring.

(34:12):
We need to record like we didwhen we saw Cheech and Chong.
Yeah, we'll.
We'll do a podcast live fromthe show.
Oh, my God, I would love tosee Slaughter.
I mean, we saw them.
Well, I've seen them twice now.
I've seen them twice.
I think I've seen them twice.
You saw them with me once?
I saw, yeah.
Opening for whom?
Please.

(34:33):
Kiss, Cinderella.
The scoop of vanilla, scoop of chocolate.
Don't waste my time.
And it was them and Wingerthat opened for Kiss.
Yeah.
And then, Todd, you saw Slaughter?
With whom?
Motley Crew?

(34:53):
No, no, no.
Slaughter.
I knew Slaughter blew whoeverit was away.
Cold winter without your love.
Really?
They played with Cinderella.
They opened for Cinderella onthe Heartbreak Station tour.
Oh, then I must have seen them.
I have, like, all kinds of.

(35:13):
And I remember Todd saying,yes, Cinderella's pretty good, but
Slaughter was amazing.
Yeah.
Blown away by Slaughter.
Yeah.
Then I went and bought theirVHS tape, and it went through.
It went through the concerts,and it went through, like, when they're
doing the signings, they wentinto their domiciles and they showed
where they lived, and theylived kind of, you know, across from

(35:35):
each other.
It'd be interesting to findout now, like, okay, they had all
kinds of money, then theyprobably blew it all.
Well, they weren't big drugguys or anything, though, where they
never know type.
Of thing to see if theyactually invested any better or even
had anything to invest.
Well, Tracy's gonna share whatMark Slaughter's been doing since
those days, because she hasthe full window washing thing that

(35:59):
I'm doing.
Well, I mean, let's play alittle bit of.
Of them in the background here as.
You're talking, becausethere's been a resurgence in hair
metal, like, the last.
I want to say, five years orso, because I'm.
I'm.
When I'm in the car, I listento Hair Nation, and there's a lot

(36:25):
of, like, Monsters of Rockcruises with Eddie Trunk and, like,
the Trunk Monkey.
No, no, no.
I have no idea.
Different Trunk Guy.
Okay, I'm gonna say yes and move.
On because the Trunk Monkeysis a skit from our show, so.
Oh, really?
Okay, I knew that.
I knew that.
But, yeah, so it's like.

(36:47):
And there's.
There's so many differentopportunities and kind of, like,
events that are organized.
There's even, like, gonna say,like, a resort.
I want to see, like, in Mexicoyou can actually go to.
And it happens, like, atdifferent times.
There's, like, I said, there'sa cruise, there's a resort, and they

(37:09):
only, like, they have.
So is that a cruise?
And A resort on the same.
There's actually two differentones I'm trying to remember, but
like.
But you've got the Monsters ofRock Cruise.
It's very well known.
And I think that's in March or May.
Monsters of Rock.
And like, I want to.
They call it Mork.
The Monsters of Cruise.

(37:30):
The Mork.
Yeah.
I think it was this.
It was in March.
I think it was.
Yeah.
Mork.
I'm sorry.
But whatever.
Hella lame.
It's a. Hella yeah.
You see, they got to go to theGrand Turk island and Puerto Plata
and Miami.
Like.
Yeah.
There was Queens, Reich, Slaughter.
Slaughter.
C Y N T. Great White, Rip Russ.

(37:57):
God.
Oh my God.
I didn't study it for my test.
Dangerous Toys.
Killer Dwarfs.
Tora.
Tora.
Black and Blue.
Tora.
Tora would fit in really goodwith those.
Yeah.
Well, it's like they've gotEnough's Enough.
Enough's Enough.
Oh man.
Like, yeah, so you see that.

(38:17):
But their second album was amazing.
The second album.
Their second album.
Who says that?
The second album.
Who says that?
I'm gonna get that clip readybecause you guys are probably.
Hang on a second.
Because like.
Okay, you're talking aboutgoing on a tangent.

(38:37):
I'm like, it's enough.
They're going off on a tangentand there's never been.
And then there's just tangentthe first place.
I think that's where I've gonecompletely off the rails.
Just.
I'm going into the.
And driving into the trailer park.
There we are.
Exactly.
Let's see here.
Yeah.
So.
But all that to say that I'mnot quite sure what Slaughter has

(39:00):
been up to other than the factthat I was just looking them up.
But then something saidsquirrel and then I was gone.
But.
The first three albums ofEnough's Enough were just epic and
they just had to keep hearing.
I've only heard the first album.
I should really go and checkit out.
Oh yes you do.

(39:21):
Truly.
It's.
I'm trying to remember because it's.
They like on the second one,they really touched upon really deep
topics like abortion and justalso losing your virginity.
And it's.
It was like they had reallydeep lyrics and that were thought

(39:46):
provoking.
Animals with human intelligence.
That's their third one, butkind of interesting.
But Strength.
Strength, that was theirnumber two.
And then Animals with HumanIntelligence and their self titled
one is enough's enough's in1989 and just epic.
I highly, highly recommend.
But anyways, back to you.

(40:07):
Oh yeah.
But that being said, let's Seehere, you wanted to know what Slaughter
was up to.
Let's see.
Because, you know, I've got.
I've got Dana Straub on you.
You keep vamping because I'mactually doing something here.
So you just keep going.
All right, so I'm just.
Okay, here we are.
So anyways, but as.
As you know, they're.
They're touring and they'regoing to be in Ottawa on June 19
and they're going to be inWinnipeg, presumably on June 17,

(40:29):
which is a Wednesday.
But yeah, it was unfortunatelyTim Kelly, who was their guitarist,
I want to say, or bassist.
He unfortunately passed away.
Oh, really?
Oh, you didn't know that?
No, yeah, the guitarist.

(40:49):
Hang on a second.
The guitarist.
He was the lead guitars.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,he was good.
I liked him.
Yeah, he passed.
I want to say he died while on tour.
It was fatal car accidenttraveling in Arizona and it was.
He was hit on.
Hit head on by an 18 wheeler.
Oh yeah, I know.

(41:10):
So unfortunately he did notget a chance to see, you know, the.
The popularity and.
And the stardom that theyreached because he was.
Unfortunately, his time herewas cut short.
But at least it was after thethird album, right?
Wasn't it?

(41:30):
Yeah, he passed away in forthe Love of Pete, 1998.
Right.
How brute.
So, yeah, he was.
And they came out.
One was the first album, sothat was 98.
Because they had this.

(41:51):
They had their self titledone, I want to say was like 88.
Hang on a second.
Stupid.
It was a 90 and then it wasthe wildlife in 92 and then fear
no evil in 95, revolution in97 and back to reality in 99.
Revolution is unequivocallylike one of the best albums.

(42:13):
And.
And yeah, you.
You made such a departure that one.
It was.
Did I?
Yeah.
And Todd.
I highly rec.
See, Todd would get a lot outof that album for sure.
No, so that was.
That was the last album.
4.
There it was.
Their last album was.
I think it was just looking at them.

(42:33):
Five, they've got six.
Revolution was their fourthand then Back to Reality was their
fifth in 99.
But I mean, I have nothing tosay on any of those because they're
just.
Each and every one of them are amazing.

(42:54):
But yeah, it's.
He would have passed awayright after finishing Revolution.
But I'll take a listen to those.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they're.
They're totally worth it.
He does.
They.
They do a really good cover of the.
Joe from the Eagles.

(43:15):
Joe Walsh,.
Funk49.
That's the baseball RockyMountain way.
Ah, okay.
Oh, yeah, because.
Yeah, that's right.
I forgot about that.
Yeah, that's.
That was.
I mean, that was my.
That was my coffee in the morning.

(43:36):
That was just like, you know,plug me in and I would just.
That was my.
So can I ask Tracy?
So, because Slaughter was.
We.
We potentially could have runinto Slaughter, Right.
If we had.
If.
I think we had done things alittle bit different.
Different.
Because we ran.
We.
We ran into Winger on the street.

(43:58):
Winger and Paul Taylor.
Paul Taylor, yeah.
Just walking down the street.
They were looking for Johnny Rockets.
They were walking one way onthe other side of the street and
we were walking.
Didn't they hail us?
No, like, we saw them andthey're like, oh, my.
No, no, no, no, no.
Because we saw them start atthe beginning.

(44:20):
Because.
Yeah.
As you do.
Because, you know.
So I don't know who saw whofirst, but I think it was like, oh,
my God, who's that shirt guy?
That's Kip.
Wow.
And Paul Taylor.
And like, we just like Beeline and.
Who is that?
You have to tell Todd who that is.
Okay.
He knows who Kip Winger is.
But yeah.
Okay, so Paul Taylor was.
Oh, my God, he was so delicious.

(44:42):
Paul Taylor is.
Oh, I'll just.
There's no Kip Winger successwithout Paul Taylor, in my opinion.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But I mean.
And anyways.
But yeah, so Kip Winger and Paul.
Paula Taylor was the.
We should be playing Winger inthe background here.
What the am I doing?
Yeah.
Bad production.

(45:03):
Well, no, no, I was.
I was number two when we started.
Now I'm number three.
I gotta fix this here.
Oh, my God, it's so funny.
Gotta keep up.
So, yeah, it was RodMorgenstein or Stein.
Wait, which band was that?
He was the drummer.
The needle.
Haywire.
Okay, that was Haywire.
Yeah.
I was just gonna say.
Oh, I love that song.

(45:24):
Here's the Paul Taylor songI'm gonna play in the background.
Single right.
By Paul Taylor.
You probably can't hear it.
Paul Taylor.
I'm thinking, like an easylistening type song.
So Paul Taylor, he playedkeyboards, guitar, backing vocals,
and he was a single.
Writer on this song.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that was.

(45:44):
That was yours.
That was your song on that album.
Absolutely.
In the Heart of the Young.
Oh, you wrote in the Heart ofthe Young, dude.
No, I'm saying that that wasthe name of the album.
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
That Fee was.
He wrote two songs on that album.
He wrote this one and the kindof the similarish track on side the
opposite side.
Was it to.

(46:05):
Under one condition?
Maybe.
Because I have a feeling thatthis one wasn't about.
I have a. I have a vaguerecollection that this was about
Kip's breakup with RodStewart's ex wife.
I'm trying to remember that heactually had her stolen from, like.

(46:27):
Well, that was Rod.
Yeah, it was Rod Stewart wasRachel Hunter.
Yes, exactly.
There we are.
Rachel Hunter.
And she left Kip Winger for Roger.
Dave's not here, man.
Sorry.

(46:47):
This is randomly gonna play asthey get my together.
Fun fact.
Originally written this songby Paul.
This particular song.
This particular song.
Miles Away.
He.
Paul Taylor offered itinitially to Eric Martin of Mr. Big,
who declined it even though heknew it was gonna be a hit.

(47:08):
Right.
I know.
Taylor states he wrote MilesAway for his girlfriend, Emmy Canaan.
Oh, well, there you go.
Who was one of the nastyhabits, the background singers for
Motley Crue.
What?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
References.
Just one.
I know.
I had no idea.
Wow.
Okay.
Just blew my mind.

(47:29):
But anyways, yeah, so he was,like, super hot, and so I don't know
what possessed me, but we bothkind of walked up behind them, like
speed walking.
And then I yelled out, I don't like.
I.
Obviously I had chutzpah tosell back then.
But it was like, oh, my God.
Is that like the amazing KipWinger and absolutely incredible

(47:51):
Paul Taylor.
And they both turned aroundand I'm like, I remember.
That's what I said.
And they're like, oh, okay.
I know, right?
And I was like, wow.
I got damn.
I got lady balls.
I was just like, damn.
I know.
Because they were so hot.
Some balls are meant fordancing and some fancy dress.

(48:14):
I've got the biggest ballsthem all.
Anyway.
Sorry.
Go on.
From the left to the.
No, no, no.
Anyway, so that was.
That will be etched in my mind forever.
Just that I was like, I can'tbelieve I had the chutzpah to say
that.
I was just like.
But obviously I had.
I gave zero.
All of my fields of.
Were barren.
So it was like none to give.

(48:35):
All your inhibitions just.
Oh, absolutely.
Because my.
My ovaries exploded, obviously.
Wait, so, okay, so do you.
What.
What happened after this?
I fainted.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Like, we basically like.
Oh, my God.
I remember I saidspecifically, Paul, Miles Away is

(48:56):
gold.
It is such a beautiful song.
And it's my song.
I can relate this song.
It's so amazing.
And Kip said something along lines.
Hi, I'm Kip Winger.
Because he wasn't getting.
He wasn't getting.
He wasn't getting any Felicia fellatio.
Wow.
Well, he's.

(49:16):
He's used to getting, youknow, people fawning over him.
Right.
But.
But the thing like he has hadquite the shitty life in the sense
that his.
His wife passed away.
Wait, who's Skip Wingers wife?
He was married?
Yeah.
Was she 17 or.

(49:37):
You know, now she would be 55.
I. I actually saw a meme.
It was like, she's only 55.
She was like, yeah, thattracks 17.
Daddy says she's on welfare.
I don't know, whatever.

(49:57):
She's.
She's.
She's on her pension.
She's on her pension.
No, no.
Welfare.
Pension.
Oh my God.
Oh, by the way, Kip's firstname by the way is Charles.
Charles Frederick.
Yeah.
I'll have you know, Kip's better.
I don't know.
Yo, dude, I'm like, kip, I like.
I work the fraternity.
Let's see here.

(50:20):
Does Todd know this song?
Yep.
Mr. V. That's Paul Gilbert, right?
Paul Gilbert, Yeah.

(50:42):
I watched actually, I actuallyget a clip of Paul playing this.
Yeah.
In the intro.
I was watching his fingersgoing, oh my God.
That's how you play that.
Fucking insane.
This guy, because he was inthis band, often did not get the
credit he should have gottenbecause of to be with you.

(51:04):
Which is a great song.
It's an amazing song.
But it was a throwaway trackat the end of the album.
It was never meant torepresent the.
Sound of the band, but that'susually what happens.
It's just kind of like, youknow, a lot of either bands or record
companies will say like, eh,you know, this is.
It's not gonna be good orwhatever and.

(51:25):
And then it ends up likereally breaking them.
Yeah, but.
But yeah.
So just to get back to his wife.
So Winger had just finishedhis debut solo effort and his wife
was killed in a car accident.
And this was.
Yeah, yeah.
Wait, wait, his.
His solo record, not theWinger album.

(51:45):
But.
No, no, like after the fact.
Exactly.
Because now I feel like a jerkfor being such an.
But again.
But like, but the guy is brilliant.
Because now he's actually likere invented himself.
Like he's writing symphonies.
Yeah, he's writing like these.
It's classically trained, right?
Yes, absolutely.

(52:06):
But like just so incrediblybrilliant that because he really.
They got lambasted like on.
On.
Right.
Unrightfully so.
Like just because of Beavisand Butthead and the fact that that
guy was wearing like T shirtand like Winger sucks or wing.
And that was that whole.
Do you remember that story, Todd?

(52:27):
The Beavis and Buttheads?
I, I don't remember thatparticular story, but I do remember
that Winger was kind of.
I don't know, they wereshunned or they were put.
Yeah, but I wasn't really surethat was the impetus.
It was because they made funof them on Beavis and Butthead.
Yeah, exactly.
That's.
So they were.
They were riding then.
They were.
The first album went platinum,second album went platinum.

(52:49):
And it was around that timeBeavis and Butt had made fun of them.
And then like it was literallynight and day.
So they were selling out.
They were like, they're on theverge of headlining on their own.
Right.
They're.
They're playing like, likesmall to mid level venues, selling
out.
And in the interviews that Iheard with the band, they said we

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went from selling out to twonights later being no.
1 in the audience.
Exactly.
After that episode aired overnight.
And I mean, but I think alsoat that time the.
Yeah, and.
And also the, the.
The winds of change withregard to musical trends were kind

(53:30):
of tending towards the grunge.
And so the Soundgarden, theAlice in Chains and the Nirvanas
were kind of coming in andpeople were getting kind of tired
of hair metal and they wantedsomething different.
And it was.
That was.
They were basically thesacrificial lamb.
That basically was the stakethat killed off hair metal at that

(53:54):
point.
It was like disco when disco died.
Oh, absolutely.
Hair metal showed up.
Yeah.
And they were burning.
They were burning records.
Disco records.
Right.
Disco records.
Yeah.
They were probably worth afortune because now people are buying
record players, obviously fornostalgic reasons because it always
sounded like with all thecraps, cracks and pops and all that.

(54:14):
But disco was so well produced though.
I was so.
Because I've gone back, I'vedone a re.
Listen to the ABBA albums.
I'm still working my waythrough the discography and I'm like,
my God, it's so well produced.
So well produced.
They're still like evenpopular to this day.

(54:34):
But God, I love Lane Stacy's voice.
It's just unbelievable.
It was haunting.
And I have to tell you of onesong that you have to find.
It's Alice in Chains.
They actually did thisperfectly encompasses the both of
you.
They actually did a cover ofRush's Tears.
You will ball.

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Because it is so beautiful, obviously.
Well, we have the technology.
Do you want to give a quick.
We have the tech.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I'll need to get It.
It's going to be a cinq mouchoir.
I gotta grab some tissue.
Yes.
Because it's just so beautifully.
Are you familiar with thesong, Todd?
Like the tears song?
Just in general.
The Rush song.

(55:15):
Oh, my God.
Is that like, off the first album?
I think so.
It's about his daughter.
Like the purple or the GettyLee's daughter, or depending on where
you live.
Wow.
I've never heard this before.
Can you guys hear it?
Yes.
God, I love this song.
This is the second vocalist too,.

(56:07):
Right?
I know.
H. Goosebumps.
H. Oh.
Apparently I already gave thisa thumbs up.
Goosebumps.
Oh, my God.
This is not Giddy's voice orit's a.
So this is their secondsinger, William Duvall.

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Gotta replace Lane Staley.
Oh, I know, right?
The guitar right there.
I know.
It's.
It's like there's so muchsorrow and so much, like, passion.
To not acknowledge when we go.
It's a guitar's place.
Guitar player's name is.

(56:51):
Oh, Brown.
Was it?
Oh.
Or am I thinking of.
Yeah, sorry.
Jerry Cantrell.
Yeah, Jerry Can.
His ability to play emotionsecond to none.
Oh, yeah.
Like just Niagara Falls when Ifirst heard this song.

(57:23):
Oh, my God.
So, Todd, pass or go?
Oh, go for sure.
It's beautiful.
It's good.
It's absolutely beautiful.
So this is William Duvall,which people have accepted him as
the second singer for Owls and Chains.
He's fantastic.

(57:44):
Absolutely.
He's very, very good.
To have a replacement, andthose are big shoes to fill.
But I mean, what a.
Like, he's such a multilayered, colorful, like, rich vocalist.
It's insane.
So here's.
Here's another Alice inChainsong that I'm not sure Todd
might have heard this one.
You may not have.

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Tracy.
I'm gonna put this on here.
And I'm curious if you guysknow this one.
This is off their.
Their acoustic album.
Is it the MTV Unplugged or.
No, it's just.
It was an EP they put out Jarof Flies.

(58:28):
Just that.
That whale there.
It's called Whale and Wasp.
It sounds like a whale crying.
Even the way he's playing the acoustic.

(58:51):
This is the one that gets meevery time.
It's just a straight instrumental.
Oh, it is?
Okay.
Yeah,.

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It's beautiful.
Just the way he bends hisnotes and whatever.
It's just he's ridiculously talented.
Did Jerry Brown also play withAlison James?
Is it Jerry Brown?
Jerry Brown from Trickster.
Wait, hang on a second.
Jerry Brown?
Okay, wait.

(59:34):
Lawyer and former governor of California.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, yeah.
No.
Carolyn.
Father Brian.
Jerry Cantrell was the guitarplayer, if that's who you're referring
to.
I'm.
I'm getting them mixed up.
Like, there's just.
There's a lot of overlap, butI have.

(59:55):
Jerry Cantrell's a Hampman,the Friedman, jj.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
It's got the be,.
Which is supposed to be abrown sound, and then Jerry's actual
signature sound.
Oh, my God.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.

(01:00:17):
So he was selling well.
Like, he put his name to Endorsed.
Yeah, Like a line of.
Yeah, it's just a little mini.
Like a 20 watt.
Out of all those grunge guysfrom the 90s, Jerry Cantrell's the
guy that the guitar playersstill talk about.
Are there any other guitarplayers from the grunge era that

(01:00:37):
people still talk about?
The people talk about KimThale from Soundgarden.
No, not really.
Like, nobody talks about.
I. I don't care what anybody says.
I don't think Kurt Cobain wasphenomenal guitar player.
He had a good.
Good hook for melody vocally,and he was able to, you know, convey

(01:01:01):
that on the guitar as well.
But I don't think he was agood guitar player.
He just had some hooks.
Maybe he was more, I guess, ofa lyricist.
Like, he was very prolific inhis lyrics.
I love this song.
See this.
This is my favorite Alice inChain song of all time.
And this is a song that I. I'mgonna ask you formally here, Todd.

(01:01:24):
What if you and I did thissong just for ourselves?
Sure, sure.
Because I can sing this song.
No problem.
I sing it all the time.
Because Cantrell's in.
Is.
Is.
He's within my register.
Right.
Get that nasally.
Yeah.

(01:01:50):
When I.
When I.
Okay, so going back.
Hearken.
Hearkening back to Tracy here.
Yes.
Do you recall the open heartand a quesit Art?
Oh, yes.
Slam dunk.
Slam dunk.
Yeah.
That was like.
Yes.
It was like, ah, man.
Yeah.
Like, rip out your heart andslam dunk it into a Cuisinart.
Where was that from?

(01:02:11):
I say that all the time.
No, you.
You.
That's you.
It was a me thing.
It was a me thing.
Okay.
Okay.
So I made a mix.
My mixes I would sell.
People would pay me to do mixes.
Somehow.
I never really understoodthat, but I would make mixes for
people, and they're like, I'mlooking for something that's moody
or blah, blah, whatever.
So I remember Tracy saying,oh, oh, that's like an open heart

(01:02:35):
and a Cuisinart.
And that was like you like ripout your heart and slam dunk it into
a Cuisinart.
Yeah, that's that.
I don't know.
That was the actual line.
That was the actual line.
So I, I, I ran with that.
I'm like that actually.
I mean, it's funny.
Absolutely.
It's, it's very, you know, visual.
I'm actually looking up rightnow because I actually, I have it

(01:02:58):
on my shelf there somewhere.
I actually, this is called Nutshell.
Nutshell.
So this was the lead track onthe mix, Open Heart in a Cuisiner,
which is on.
I made, I made the mix and Idid it in YouTube music.
So this was the lead track.

(01:03:19):
Because this, when this songcame out, I recently talked about
on.
I don't know if Todd listenedto it, but there was an episode,
I did a solo episode talkingabout Concrete Blonde and my span
of like 10 year span of being,you know, locked in depression or
whatever and.
But this you're talking about,this one is like when you were living

(01:03:42):
in your apartment.
Yes.
Like in that, in that area.
In your car.
Well, there was a part where Iwas living in my car too, which I
don't know how much Todd knows.
About that, but I didn't knowabout that.
When I got divorced.
I didn't tell anybody.
And I don't think I toldanybody for two weeks.
So I got kicked out of thehouse and I was living in my car

(01:04:03):
for two weeks.
There's two chicken shit totell you about it.
Todd was too chicken shit totell mom and dad about it.
And I just stayed in my carfor two weeks.
Wow.
I didn't have a job because Ialso, not only did I get divorced,
but I also got fired from myjob exactly on the same week.
The hits just kept coming.
Yeah.
Oh, but I mean, look at you now.

(01:04:25):
Look at you now.
What you've been able to overcome.
Yeah.
And just how much stronger you are.
So kudos to you, man.
Like, because you're made oftough stuff.
But.
Yeah, I think, but I think,you know, I was, you know, they always
say here, we're totallyAlbuquerque here.
All episodes doesn't.

(01:04:46):
Excuse me.
And I'm following right alongwith you.
Ups and downs.
We're going all because that's what.
But I, I think so.
There's this theory, and thismight be like over most people's
heads, but there's the theorythat every seven years you've, you've
expended all your cells inyour body and your body replenishes
itself.

(01:05:07):
Your cells are only good forabout seven years.
So you get a replenishmentevery seven years.
So they say there's anevolution of your body.
Or not evolution, but a changein your body every seven years, which
equates to the.
You evolve.
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, wait, I got to turn this.
Up a little bit.
By the way, I just shared AMidsummer's Daydream.

(01:05:28):
Yeah.
Have you heard this song, Tracy?
This is Triumph.
Yeah.
Oh, this sounds very familiar.
They're actually on tour.
Yeah, they just playedWinnipeg actually.
And I'm.
I think they're coming to Montreal.
I can't recall.
Oh yeah, of course they'regoing there.
But so the idea you heard withthe seven year itch, right?

(01:05:53):
Yeah, absolutely.
So every seven years.
So relationships generally last.
Can last up to seven years.
It's usually at seven yearswhen your cells have been recycled,
whatever, and all of a suddenI'm bored in this relationship or
I need to move on.
So you've probably evolved,you've changed, your cells have replenished.

(01:06:13):
You're at that seven yearpoint where everything changes.
And if the partner you're withdoesn't change with you or not change
with you, but you guys don'thave this evolution, that's where
a lot of breakups happen, isat that seven year mark.
Or some people don't even makeit to the seven year mark.
But the idea is 100% you havea complete redo of your entire cellular

(01:06:37):
structure every seven years.
I don't know.
Well, I think, I mean there tosome extent there is like something,
a grain of truth in there.
But like your skin cellsregenerate at a slower rate than
your blood cells or just likeyour, your, your organs are regenerating

(01:06:57):
and creating new cells all the time.
Yeah, but, but.
And then you do a completerestructure every seven years.
Well, I mean, I think in orderto simplify things.
But yeah, I mean, like, I'mnot the same that I was seven years
ago.
Like, I mean, I went through amassive transformation, but I think

(01:07:20):
a lot of people go throughjust like this process of everything
burning to the ground and thenyou have to rebuild yourself.
Yeah.
And some people have it happenmore than once.
I mean, for me it happenedlike just during the pandemic.
But I'm so grateful that itdid happen because it was a complete

(01:07:41):
deconstructing of myself, mysoul, my mind, everything was gone.
But that was a lesson that Ihad to learn because I was not paying
Attention.
I was not listening to myheart's desire and my soul.
Soul's purpose.
That's.
I was just, I was so focusedon, you know, staying safe.

(01:08:05):
But life is not to be lived safely.
Like, you don't.
What do you think of that?
Life is not to be lived safely.
Like, you know, when you're,when you have a ship like it's supposed
to be, you know, you send itout onto the, onto the ocean so that,
you know, you get to have experiences.

(01:08:26):
And it, that's the, the wholequintessential idea behind Finding
Nemo.
It's like the dad wantingdesperately to protect him because
he's handicapped or he hassome sort of disability with his
little fin and he doesn't wantanything to happen to him.
And at the end of the story,it's like, well, if nothing happens

(01:08:46):
to him, then nothing is goingto happen to him.
And you can't grow from nothaving experiences that help you
grow.
So it's just.
That's deep.
I know.
We're talking about.
Thank you for attending my TED Talk.
Under the ocean deep.
Oh, like Mariana Trench deep.

(01:09:09):
And so never like Mariana Trench.
I didn't even know anyway.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I would not be surprised.
But yeah, so it's likeultimately, you live, you learn.
I'm quoting Alanis Morrison.
Wait, you got a new.
You live, you learn.
You live, you live, you learnsomething, you learn.

(01:09:34):
But then Brett Butt, who's anamazing stand up comedian, he has
this whole bit about Alanis Morissette.
It's like you read, you, youread something in a book and you
learn, you learn.
But I mean, ultimately life ispain, but then from that pain you

(01:09:55):
garner lessons and you becomea better version of yourself.
I am so much better than Iever was.
Now.
I'm actually living my life'spurpose and living.
And I'm so grateful and sohappy to be alive and just to have
this experience, especiallywith you guys.
But you're, but the thing is,you're saying you're so grateful
to be alive, but you're alivebecause you did the head hope and.

(01:10:21):
Yes, exactly.
Because I had to fight.
I basically, I tapped intothis unknown pool of incredible strength
and will to live like thissurvival instinct.
Instinct.
Because everything was takenaway from me and I had to kind of

(01:10:41):
tap into this.
Oh, no, hell no.
This is not gonna.
I am not going down this way.
And so when I understood that,okay, so by being a good girl all
my life, and I still got,pardon my French over, I'm like,
oh, hell no.
No, no, no, we're gonnarewrite this because everything I've
been told so far as far as Iknow is a lie.

(01:11:02):
The only thing I knew werethree things I said.
I knew that I believed inmyself and I trusted myself and I
loved myself.
And those were the threepillars statements that allowed me
to rebuild to who I am today now.
And I'm, like, still shockedthat I was able to.

(01:11:23):
To kind of stay the course andhang in there and just break, believe
in myself so unconditionallywhen I had never been taught that.
Because essentially you learnfrom your environment and you, you
see and you.
You watch other people doingthings and you're like, ah, I could
do that.
Like, you guys, like, like,you guys are giving me courage.

(01:11:46):
You're helping me see thatit's possible.
You're giving me hope.
That's what you guys do.
And you had no idea that youwere doing that.
See, I want to say the samething too, for Todd.
When Todd met his.
His ladies, right, we saw.
And I don't know, I think I'vetalked to you about this before,
Todd, right?
We saw you completely change.

(01:12:10):
Not change in a bad way, butthere was.
There was this open up.
It's that seven year.
It's that seven year thing.
All of a sudden you shed allthese, the old skin or cells or whatever
you want to call it, and it'slike, holy.
Like, this is what me and momwould say.
Look at that smile, right?
He was just lit up from the inside.
But then you had this.

(01:12:31):
You had the smile, you had thelittle laugh that you just had, right?
Just.
Just right now.
Or like, see that?
See, you shed all that stuff.
And that's the thing.
Every seven years you shed.
You can choose to shed it oryou can just keep it, you know.
Absolutely.
You can live in fear.
But.
But the thing is, is, like,when your soul wants you to pay attention

(01:12:53):
and like, needs you to gothrough something, you will, but
then it's because it's foryour greater good.
And all of the trials andtribulations and sacrifice and suffering
that you went through broughtyou to the.
To that moment where you metyour wife now, and.
But you would not have met herhad you not gone through all of those

(01:13:15):
challenges and all of thosetrials and tribulations and like,
that you had suffered.
You had to suffer.
Well, I mean, we talked aboutthat because it was like, you know
what?
Yes, we should have met eachother, you know, 30 years ago or
whatever.
I know.
And it's like but if we wouldhave, we wouldn't have.
We had to go througheverything that we both had to go

(01:13:37):
through to get to where we are now.
Yes.
Because if.
If your aunt had will, she'dbe a bicycle.
It's like, ultimately, youhave all these things happen for
a reason.
And.
God, I love this song.
I knew this because it relates to.
It relates to what Todd is saying.
What you give, what you get.

(01:13:57):
What you get is what you give.
Todd's giving to hisrelationship 100%.
Todd gives to me this showthat he little.
This little show he gives methis May long weekend, which is coming
up, which we're going to talkabout in a sec.
Yeah.
Okay.
These are little things thatkeep me going.
Like, I'm never gonna get inthe pit that I was in.

(01:14:18):
Talked about a couple episodes about.
There's no chance.
There's no way Todd would everlet me get so down.
There's no way my family wouldever let me start.
And Tracy, you're never gonnalet me get.
Never.
Absolutely.
You know that.
That's.
We have our support systemhere, which is great.
We do.
We're not alone.

(01:14:39):
Never.
I think there's a lyric.
I go on.
There's probably a lyric ifyou keep going.
Another.
Here's another song.
It's like a segue to every song.
Absolutely.
Background.
That's right, exactly.
Yeah.
It's like the.
The Pink Floyd, the Wall and.
What was it, the movie Aliceor Alice in one line.

(01:15:03):
Wizard of Oz.
Yeah.
Where it's playing in thebackground while you're watching
the show.
Apparently it's supposed to.
Yeah, it syncs up supposedlyby the.
I think, like the third roar of.
Of the lion.
Yes.
That's when you start thealbum and then supposedly everything
syncs up, presumably.
Yeah.
I mean, they were interviewinghim regarding that and he was saying.

(01:15:28):
Oh, yeah, they.
It is now.
They.
They've got it all on YouTubetype thing.
They've got it all synced upalready so you can watch it.
Exactly.
Thing so.
And I've never watched it tosee, but.
Cool.
But I think you probably have to.
Be all hyped up on the goofballs.
Yeah.
All hopped up and.
Yeah, actually, they had.

(01:15:48):
I'm sure it's touring, butthey had the 50th anniversary of
Dark side of the Moon, andthey had some sort of a visual.
It was like a movie that itwas showing on, like, planetarium
screens.
So, like, basically, you'rejust like, lying there in your beanbag
and you're looking up andlike, super psychedelic, trippy,

(01:16:12):
but it was extremely well done.
Yeah, they had it here at the Planetary.
Oh, did they?
Oh, there you go.
I think, I don't think I'veseen it.
It's almost like the moviewith the hammers going, you know.
Well, it's something differentin the sense that it's all digitally
created.
Like it's just visual things.
It's not a storyline per se,it's just different scenes that are

(01:16:36):
digitally recreated, like onthis backdrop of like the dark side
of the moon.
It's trippy, but it's reallywell done.
But I love Tesla so much.
Yeah, I'll play a Love songwith, you know, I'll play guitar
to it just because I like, Ijust like the song.
Yeah, but just that wholeintro to Love Song on the acoustic

(01:16:59):
guitar, it's got shades oflike Randy Rhodes in there, Leona
Boyd, Spanish fly instrumentalor whatever.
Like there's all those thingsin there.
I think it was.
Love Song was actually one ofmy friends wedding.
The first dance.

(01:17:20):
Oh, really?
His wedding?
Yeah.
And he even told me like backin the 90s, he's like, when I get
married, that's gonna be my,my, the first song that I danced
to with my wife.
And, and sure enough.
Yeah, he actually, and, and Iasked him, I said, did you?
Goes, yeah, I did.
That's, that's my friend.
Evil.
Evil, Evil.

(01:17:41):
Now there's a, there's anAcadian name, there's Evon.
I miss, I, God, I miss.
Just shuck.
I, I, I love.
I just.
I think I've sent you a coupleof videos.
Oh yeah, I, I subscribed tothose two people like instantly.
This is a bunch of shiachisms, Todd.

(01:18:04):
But then they explain likewhere this, where this shit came
from, right?
The structure and just likehow the, the etymology of the words
and how they came about.
Because a lot of shiak is fromthe old French, like from, from France
and say like V. Like that'slike old French.

(01:18:24):
But, but there's, there's a.
Was it etymology or whateverit's called.
Well, that means a reason for it.
It's like the root, it's kindof like the definite.
Like where it comes from.
The other Pal de hard.
Or what was the.

(01:18:46):
Or something.
Do you remember?
Do you remember La Seguin?
Yes, absolutely.
I've never.
You're familiar with theSaguin though?
Sure, absolutely.
My aunt is, is from.
Wow.
I didn't know that.
My ex girlfriend, that was her aunt.

(01:19:10):
What?
I didn't know that.
Oh, My gosh.
Wow.
That was.
I think that was her.
Her aunt.
That's crazy.
Yeah,.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes.
I want to play this.
This sound clip here on purpose.
On purpose.
Nothing I've done is on purpose.

(01:19:31):
But.
So, Todd, you're talking aboutNorm, you talk about Zap, and we're
talking about the Seguenn andall this sort of stuff.
And I told you, I found.
I found.
I got a cassette player and Iplugged it into my computer with
a.
With a patch cord, so for theheadphone jack to go out to a usb,

(01:19:54):
plugged it into my computer,plugged it into Reaper, which is
what we use, Todd and I bothuse, to mix music and stuff.
And I was able to recognizethe signal and convert it into an
MP3.
So I've been working on abunch of stuff, and this is one of
them.
Wait, is it going to play?
Is it what I think you'regoing to play?
Oh, hell.

(01:20:17):
All righty then.
By the way, just as a.
As a tangent, you want.
If you want to listen to a really.
Another amazing song.
It's a band called in thisMoment, and the song is called oh,
Lord, but in this.
In this moment,.

(01:20:37):
She.
It's actually headed by afemale vocalist.
Sorry.
In this Moment is the band.
Yeah.
And the name of the song iscalled oh, Lord.
New song.
Oh, wait.
Coroner.
Coroner.
Yes.
Yes.
What the hell?
You're not necessarily her,but pronounce somebody dead.

(01:20:59):
That's what it is.
Okay, I'm going to play somemass Jack.
We got to find it first.
Okay.
This is Mask Jackal fromCoroner from their second album,
Punishment for Decay.
Second album.
Are you.
Are you impressed?
All right.

(01:21:19):
To their fringe.
Oh, fuck.
I missed that guy.
I missed that guy so fucking hard.
Okay, anyway, in this moment.
What was it?
What was it?
The name of the song is calledoh, Lord.
I actually put the link in the.
In the chat.
Oh, okay.
I found it.
Here we go.
I gotta turn it up.

(01:21:39):
I guess she actually did a song.
It.
From myself.
Won't you forgive me?
For I have lost control.

(01:22:03):
Oh Lord, won't you please hear me?
Do I obey?
Come on.
Come on, Demon.

(01:22:39):
You show me about the shadowor the.
Here comes the chorus.

(01:23:00):
Strapping.
With.
Oh, God, I must see on.
The water I.

(01:23:29):
Go.
It's not a pass to go, go.
What's your thoughts, Todd?
You should see the video.
It's.
It's.
The song is good.
Not something I would probablylisten to all the time, but it's
a good song.
It has that.

(01:23:50):
That radio or what Is it?
You're talking into a telephone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It kind of has that,.
But I can't remember what.
What band that was.
Boys used to do it all the time.
They used to sing through.
Yeah, it was like an old timey microphone.

(01:24:10):
Like it sounds like an oldrecord player.
Like with the gramophones.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, exactly.
I like.
She actually.
She.
She actually did another songwith Rob Halford called Black Wedding
and.
I just did.
I did an album.
Rob Halford, You.

(01:24:32):
Sorry.
Okay.
I'm jealous.
Yikes.
No, I know.
I say that in the highestregard because.
Good on you.
Oh, absolutely.
I don't know how it cameabout, but I mean, yeah, she's got
some talent.
I. I like the vocal.
There's a lot of things thatshe's doing there that she's different
from a vocalist perspective.
I'm.
I'm really grooving on.

(01:24:55):
Okay.
But anyways, we've recorded.
We've recorded for a while.
We barely talked about.
We didn't talk about.
Too loud, McLeod.
I know.
I guess you're gonna have tobring me back.
Yeah, Yeah.
I mean, that's fine.
For sure.
I mean, you can Albuquerquewith the best of us, so.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
What a great honor.
This is awesome.

(01:25:15):
That was fun.
Actually, we had a plan.
We totally didn't stick the landing.
We ended up in.
We ended up in Gander, Newfoundland.
We were trying to go to Toronto,.
Nova Scotia, but.

(01:25:38):
Please help me.
But just remember, the jetswere lousy.
Anyway.
There you go.
I think that that sums up the.
The jets this season, right, Todd?
Yeah, they were a good.
They were a good team, butthey died.
Yeah.
Last year they were.
They won pretty much almostevery game.
How far did they get and didthey even make it to.

(01:26:00):
They got the.
That was at the Heisner or thetrophy, you know, and.
But then once they hit theplayoffs, they just.
Yeah, well, I mean, everybody was.
So.
That was their season.
Everybody got injured and.
Oh, just terrible.
It's a show.

(01:26:21):
Yeah.
It's unfortunate.
Oh, well, next year their golfgame will get better.
Just like the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Okay, Toad, there's somethingwe got to do before we sign off.
Before Tracy gives her particulars.
What is.
What is it we have to do?
We always forget to do, but wehave to do as part of our.
We have to talk about the newpatron, Patreon.

(01:26:42):
Oh, patreon.
Yeah.
The $74.
The $75 patreon.
$75.
And Sean will come to yourhouse and give you a good night.
So he'll he'll read a goodnight book to you.
He signed up for the, for the platinum.
Chaz messaged me today.
He goes, oh my God, I can'tstop fucking laughing.

(01:27:05):
Lick my rim or whatever it isthat I said.
Oh my gosh.
When I was talking about.
I was.
Who's it?
I was probably talking aboutMaroon 5 again.
I don't know.
Oh no.
But he said, holy, I can'tstop laughing.
Well, that means you're doingsomething pretty awesome.
Yeah, but.

(01:27:25):
Yeah, sorry Todd, go on, I cutyou off.
Back to you.
Oh no, just, just to say thatwe've got three.
It's three tiers, right?
Yep.
There's a Certified Geek,which is number one, which is $5
a month.
There's a True Geek, which is$10 a month.
And there's Supreme Geek,which is $20 a month.
And I don't know if you wantto explain which.

(01:27:47):
What you get in each tier.
Sure, I have it right here.
I'm going to pull it up.
I just hopped on my big whiteboard.
$5 a month early access,that's available in all tiers.
You get your name on everyepisode, which we're going to do
in a second.
You get to also submit yourpass or go suggestions.
So our Pass or go game, which,which somehow is the most popular

(01:28:10):
segment on the show, which wedid a few rounds of it here today
with Tracy, you can submityour own pass or go's to our show
and we will do them on the show.
True Geek, the $10 one.
You get access to our discord.
You can come chat us on there.
You also have access to theWheel of topics, also called the
Wheel of Spite by Nick Jones.

(01:28:31):
He said it's the Wheel of Spite.
If you want to give stuff forus to talk about.
Hey, it'd be really fun if youguys talked about electrical toilets.
We will do it.
If you get on the ten dollartier, we'll talk about electrical
toilets, batteries or banana seats.
Banana seats, which is a veryhot topic for us.
And super geek is the $20 a month.

(01:28:55):
We will do a personal videoand send it to you.
You will be named on allsocial media as a top sponsor of
the show.
And then there's the $75 tier.
You can submit songs to thosecreeps on the metal shop.
Todd, what the were you doingon the metal shop?
Why are you talking to Nomanand Rory?

(01:29:17):
And why were you beingfriendly with those two assholes?
I, you know, I just showed up.
I hope you gave them what for.
Well, with Three.
You give them what?
Three?
There's only three of us.
There's only three.
Yeah, they think we'resupposed to pay them or some, but
I don't know those two yahoos.

(01:29:37):
Someone's got a case of the spouses.
Yeah, supposed to.
Yeah.
But anyway, so that's ourPatreon, Tracy.
Where do you find.
Where do we find your stuff?
My stuff?
You can find me on the Facepage or Facebook or Instagram.
The book of Face.
The face.
Yes.
Sit on my face.

(01:29:58):
I actually have a websitecalled Voices by Tracy.
I am a bilingual voice actorbased out of Montreal, Quebec, Canada,
and I have a YouTube page.
And.
Yes.
So find me on the socials andlove chat with you and talk music,
because, you know, just that's.

(01:30:19):
That's what keeps me sane.
So imagine this done waybetter in a world where only one
podcaster and his brother cansurvive the apocalypse, but done
with a much better voice and feminine.
That would be.
Tracy.
Fight.
You do it.

(01:30:39):
You do it.
You do it right now.
Do it right now.
Come on in.
Stop laughing.

(01:31:23):
In a world where there areonly two amazing podcasts, Sean Geek
and Fast Frat on the Shangeekand Fast Frat Podcast available on
all your socials.
Like skip, cry, and Comment.
That's pretty good.

(01:31:43):
Wow.
Sweet.
Hey, man, I was just like, improv.
I'm, like, throwing.
We gave you a direction.
It's all right.
So it's.
I'm just like.
I'm.
I'm flying by the seat of mypants and I am wearing pants.
At least you're wearing pantsand you can fly by the seat of them.
And if you happen to see the Yayas.

(01:32:03):
Yes.
Talk to the drummer, Mark.
Okay.
Zap.
And just say.
Tell them that we say hi.
Oh, yeah.
I'll go and find them the Yaya's.
And you can tell him that heis still my favorite drummer.
Even above Neil Peart.
He's my favorite drummer.
Wow.
Well, that is.
That's saying something.
But I will.
I will definitely look them up and.

(01:32:24):
But you guys are just epic andso incredibly kind and generous to
let me just shoot the shitwith you guys because this is so
much fun and I'm just sograteful that I got a chance to catch
up with you guys.
And this is just.
You guys make me happy.
And I'm so grateful that youguys have this platform because you
guys are just awesome.

(01:32:44):
Aw, thanks.
This was great.
Checks in the mail.
Yes.
But anyways, had a great time.
Had a great time.
Oh, yeah.
Our socials.
All socials.
Including the Patreon page, isSean Geek podcast.
So at Shangpodcast orShangpodcast, you'll find us on everything

(01:33:06):
from LinkedIn to Trump'sTwitter to Facebook, Instagram, meta,
whatever.
We're on everything.
Send us a message.
And just like that, ding.
We will.
We will reply to all requests.
And you can also find [e-mail] that's S E A N M C G

(01:33:32):
I N I T Y dot.
CA I feel like Todd should bedoing this.
No one's gonna get the visual,but I'm gonna do this.
S E A.
Oh, my God.
You remember what that was from?
Oh, I do.
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
That's why I'm like, they putit in the hole.

(01:33:56):
Oh, my God.
All right, we're going to signoff here.
Okay, thanks.
Thank you for listening, andwe'll see you next week.
And bye.
Have a good day.