Tornado Talk and Tribute Tunes: Eddie Van Halen's Legacy

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So we've done 99 since the.
The 500th episode.
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It just seemed like not too.
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That was like a month ago,isn't it?
No, feels like months.
It kind of.
It kind of goes fast.

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Holy crap.
Yeah.
I was in the midst of tryingto figure out how to put a shed in
the backyard.
So it's been back and forthbecause I've got a carport and then
the fence, and there's onlyabout 12, 13ft or so.
So I wanted to put an 8 by 10,but it's only about a foot on each

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side, so I have to go 8 by 10and the 10 I have to go lengthwise.
So I rented a sod cutter last weekend.
A sod cutter?
What's a sod cutter?
Sod cutter.
So basically it's.
You know, when you.
Do you remember when we firstmoved here and we had all that sod?
We had the roll out and it wasthe very first time we'd ever.

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Todd, you're taking me back.
We'd ever walked on gumbo.
That was.
Yeah, because we're used to,you know, New Brunswick, you know,
Pei, like red soil.
Like just soil here is likethe bottom of the lake.
Gumbo.
Like as soon as.
Like elevator shoes.
As soon as you had your footon it, it was wet.

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It just kept piling up andpiling up, and you almost twist your
ankle because you had so muchstuff underneath.
So the sod cutter basicallycuts the sod to make those rolls.
Okay, can you take a stepback, though?
Can you explain Gumbo.
Gumbo.

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Well, they call it red river something.
Gumbo.
It's.
Yeah, I guess it used to be the.
We used to be in a.
Bottom of a lake bed orsomething or other.
Yep.
And you know, when you putyour, your, your feet in water of
a lake or whatever, it getsmushy and it squeezes it between
your toes.

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Well, that's the kind of clayor whatever that we have here.
So when it's dry, it's as hardas a rock, but when it's wet, it's
very slippery, slick and itkind of piles up on, on you as you're
walking through it.
So you literally can gain likefeet, like several feet under your

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feet.
Well, grow in height anyways,a couple inches until you, you know,
and it's the kind that youhave to kind of, you know, go to
the side of the sidewalk orthe abutment and scrape your foot
to try and get it off.
So we've never seen stuff like that.
We had dirt where we came from.
Yeah, it was just dirt.

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Dirt, yeah.
So in order to.
And because we have this typeof soil, it's not just a matter of
putting footings down, youknow, compact a little bit of gravel
underneath or three quarterdown or something and then put a
block on it.
You have to have like 4 to 6inches almost of gravel so that it
doesn't sink.

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So it's.
So I decided to rent the sidecutter from Home Depot because that
day it looks like it was goingto rain, but it hadn't rained yet.
It was just kind of, kind ofoff and on, just spitting a little
bit.
So I guess whoever had rentedit previously said, no, I'm not going

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to rent it today.
So I was lucky enough to getit, came home, you know, and basically
it's just a blade.
So once you, once you startit, one of the handles gets the blade
running right.
So it just, it bounces backand forth type of thing, like in
a shaking motion almost.

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No, no, it's gas powered.
Oh, gas power.
Okay.
Yeah.
So this little four wheelthing with a motor on top and then
the blade at the bottom.
So then you push the otherlever and then it walks like it's
motorized and pulls you along.
Right.
So it pulls you along whileit's chopping the, the grass.

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So it just makes grooves of grass.
So I just did all the groovesand because the grass that I have
in the backyard, it's kind of patchy.
So it's not like a really niceroll of grass.
Like it was just kind of Chunks.
That's what it was.
So I backed the truck up,threw all that stuff in it.
Plus, it was wet, so it wasreally like.

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It was.
It says that it's easier tocut the sod when it's wet.
Okay.
And it was.
It cut through like butter,like, no problem.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
So when I was done.
Yeah.
So I ended up bringing it back.
I put all the sod in the backof the truck.
We have a recycle area not close.
Not that far from here on Pacific.

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Yeah, I know the one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
And they'll.
They'll take branches, theytake sod, dirt, whatever.
So I just went there, took itout of the back.
So I expended so much energythat day, and it was cold, so I had
a jacket on.
Okay.
Yeah, that was the cooler day,which is great because I like, I

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don't mind working on a cool day.
Born as hot.
It's just like, you know, youdo, you know, a couple of shovels
of this, and then you got tostop and take a breath with this.
Was.
Was good.
So I was toast on Sunday.
That was.
It was like.
Okay, that's rest day.
Oh, no kidding.
Yeah, my Fitbit gave me.

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Before you go further.
Okay.
I'm a big guy.
That's you.
That was you.
Okay, well, hang on a second here.
We haven't talked in a while.
So you got a Fitbit now?
Yeah, I got a Fitbit.
Well, which, like, which onedid you get?
I think it's probably the sameone that you have.
It's just like, slimmer.
Yeah, Very, very slim.

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Very slim.
And then you just, like, you.
You swipe right or swipe lefton there and swipe up and swipe down
like that.
Yeah, I. I haven't reallyfigured out that part so much.
It's just kind of the app, the.
The health app, I guess.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because it's not Fitbit anymore.
It's now Google Health.
Oh, okay.
Because Fitbit got bought byGoogle and now they're converting

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everything over from Fitbit toGoogle Health.
Right.
Because, hey, Google doesn'town enough.
No kidding.
Yeah, it's.
Oh, the history.
Oh, my phone.
My phone did not like that.
Dude, what's that?
Could you said.

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My phone just said.
Could you clarify what youmean by that?
When was June 13th?
That was like three days ago.
13Th was Saturday, right?
Yeah.
Okay, so June 13th says youfinished the week with three times
your usual intensity.
You moved from slow, groggystart on Monday to your highest effort

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days of the month on Fridayand Saturday, the volume you bank
626 weekly cardio points,crushing your goal of 210.
Wow.
Most of that came from thehigh resistance.
Did you set your goal or youjust using whatever default is?
Just whatever default.
Yeah.

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Said you put in over.
Yeah.
The last 48 hours proved youcould maintain a 36 minute walking
pace.
See, so you're at one person.
You're at what percentage ofyour weekly?
Oh, it was.
Because it says weekly cardioor weekly.
Oh, no, sorry.
It says your volume.
The volume you bank 626 weeklycardio points.

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Oh, okay.
It says crushing your goal of210, but of 210.
Okay.
Your goal is 210.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it said here your heart,your heart is still working double
time.
Even a short walk felt like aworkout after that morning bike session.
Did it give you what, what was your.
Does it say your high pointfor your BPMs or anything?

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Yeah.
Okay.
So it says pushing into thevigorous zone for the full 15 minutes
shows your body hasn't had achance to reset yet.
High cost averaging 142 bpmfor a casual pace is a clear sign.
Your 26 readiness score ishitting home accumulated strain.
You've already banked a cardioload of 59 today between the bike

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and the walk.
Since you're clearly runninghot, are you able to keep things
low key for the rest of the Saturday?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's asking me that.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
So okay, on, on, on Sunday,Sylvia and I did gardening like all,
like all morning long, likefor a long period.

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And it was.
Gardening is not like highcardio or anything, but you get steps
for doing it.
Right.
You get your steps.
You get your, you get.
Because ideally at our age,you don't want to be at your top
cardio.
There's.
It gives you a range.
Like My range is 70.
My BPMs on Sunday were between 73.

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That's kind of my, my low at 236.
But I mean there was somevigorous activity there too.
But so my, my week so far, I'mat 109% of my weekly cardio.
Oh, well, you're good.
Well, I did, I did a work.

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So you've done it all.
Yeah, I did my.
I, I did so Sunday because itstarts on Sunday runs to Saturday.
Right.
So I like, I was almost allthe way through on like in one day.
I did almost my entire week.
Huh.
And I had like 20,000 stepsyesterday or whatever the heck it
was.

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Yeah, yeah.
It tells me what my Sleep islike, if it's a. Oh, you got a sleep
score of 87 or.
Yeah, whatever, which is, youknow, and then it shows your readiness.
So I don't know if it says wewere watching the UFC fight and it

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finished.
I think I, I went to bed.
I think the last time I looked up.
Oh, I thought you're ratingyour BPMs during the fight.
Well, it may have.
It may have elevated.
So, yeah, I think it was like12, 12, 12:30.
Last time I looked at theclock, it was 1 next morning.
It said.
Yeah, it said, you way too late.

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You did that.
Way too late.
Yeah.
And you're going to be grogginess.
You're ready.
Like, radiance was like a 36.
I don't know.
It wasn't.
Wasn't very good.
So.
But it's.
It's pretty cool how it kindof calculates everything, whether
it's accurate or not.
I guess it's only as accurateas, you know, if I'm telling it what
I'm doing, but if it doesn't,you know, when you're shoveling,

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it's.
It's vigorous, but you're not running.
Like, it's not a.
The Fitbit's not going to take.
But I'm.
But it's monitoring my heartrate, so obviously it's like, oh,
your heart rate's quite high.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's kind of neat because Iactually, what I started doing because
when I, when I was workingout, like, kind of a little more
hardcore, like I was startedreading and saying, well, you don't

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want to be in the extreme orthe intense zone for too long.
You don't really want to goabove this level and that sort of
stuff.
So I was actually.
Because I'd be doing like.
Like when we got a bunch ofgravel and I had to spread the gravel
out and move it from the frontto the backyard and load after load

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after load, all that sort ofstuff, I was paying attention to
my heart rate and my, My watchwould buzz and going, you're doing
vigorous.
You're doing more thanvigorous or whatever.
It's like you need to slow down.
So.
Okay.
Did you set up alarms to tell.
You it automatically from your phone?
It automatically does.

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It'll.
When you're working out, it'llauto register to say, hey, you're
doing moderate activity oryou're doing vigorous activity.
Are you doing.
There's one above vigorous?
I think so it was telling me,you know, slow the down sort of thing.
Maybe I just didn't Notice.
But I mean, growing up, Imean, you do, you, you do what you

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do.
Right.
You don't really pay attentionto any of that.
It's just like.
But you know, there's a lot,you know, people were getting heart
attacks, it wasn't unusual andthat sort of stuff.
So I kind of monitor what I doand I try to stay within.
Moderate to vigorous, modest.
Moderates.
Moderate to vigorous.
Right.
Like when I'm on thetreadmill, like I could try to get

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like if I do a 3.2 on thetreadmill, it'll get me to vigorous.
Or if I do 3.4 or whatever.
Boy, this is engagingconversation for 599, let me tell
you.
Yeah, so I'm, I was looking atdifferent things on YouTube and there's

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different people.
I wanted, I wanted someonefrom Canada, close to here, who was
showing how to build a shedbase for this type of.
No, wait, you're building the shed.
Well, or you're building the.
I'm building the base.
Oh.
But the thing, but the thingis that, I mean, and the one at the,
the shed at Costco is on sale,but the thing is, is that the door

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is on the wide side of it orit needs to be on the narrow side,
which is a whole different one.
Yeah.
So perhaps maybe at the end ofthe year the other ones will.
Might go on sale.
They may not.
And then I looked online, itsays, it said that they would deliver
the one that I wanted and theycould deliver it, you know, within
a couple weeks or whatever.

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And then today I looked andsays, no, delivery's not available.
So it's like, what if I just.
Because I built a carportmyself, I figured, well, maybe I
can do a shed.
I don't know.
Let's take a look.
So I took a look at different.
And the person who did thebase, he's from Regina.
So I was like, okay, wellyou're close to here.
And he seemed to think thatthe soil was pretty close.

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So it's like, okay, well, Ilooked at his plans and it seemed
legit.
I saw him build the base.
I saw him build the actual shed.
I don't know, I might try it.
I was looking down to Wallstreet here.
I don't know if we talkedabout this last time.
And there's, there's some prebuilt ones.

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Oh.
And I was looking at them and,and I was looking at them and I was
like, okay, this would work.
It's on skids.
Like they're like, you know,six by six or whatever.
Three of them on the bottom ofthe unit.
So they just basically sit onyour yard, you put them on blocks
or whatever you want.
But I mean, that, that doesn'tsink as much.

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So I was inquiring about itand I'm thinking, well, how would
I get it in the backyard?
I'd have to actually take thecarport apart.
And I'm like, let me rethink this.
Yeah.
So I was like, okay.
And then I was like, well, howmuch would it cost if they built
one here?
Because their prices were likesale prices that they had.
They were trying to get rid ofsome of them.

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Right, okay.
Well, it's like two or threetimes the price almost if they were
to have someone come here andbuild it.
So it's like, no, I'm good.
I was looking at doors for the house.
It was like a couple thousanddollars per door.
I was like, holy Christ, is itthat expensive?
Yeah, it is.
Have doors put in.
Yep.

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So it's like, well, I can't doeverything because I'd like to do
the basement too, because wedon't have a bathroom down there.
So I just wanted to getsomeone to come out and rough in
the plumbing.
So it was like, well, how muchis that going to cost?
So now it's like, okay, well,first I'm going to do the, the garage
part.
At least the base.

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I might try my hand at makingit to save some money and then we'll
see after that.
So being that the weather isnice, the outside work should be
done.
The inside can be done at any time.
So.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Take advantage of the good weather.
Yeah.

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Todd, you and I are Irish.
French.
Right.
So when I did the gardening onSunday, maybe I forgot clovers.
What's that?
Found some four leaf clovers.
No, I. I burnt real bad.

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Oh.
And it's funny because bringsout the.
White in your beard.
Yeah, true, but I.
But I burnt one.
Oh, it's still sore.
The.
My back shoulder, I had onlike a tank top and it burnt like
the back shoulder just on oneside, though.
And the one corner, backcorner of my head.

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And now I was trying toexplain this to Sylvie because Sylvie's
Mediterranean.
She doesn't burn like we burn.
It's not the same thing.
She gets a little bit red andthen it turns like just dark brown.
Like, like, you know, Uncle Ronnie.
Yeah, yeah, Mike, like, yeah,them, they could be in the sun, no

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protection and.
Yeah, never an issue.
Right.
Yeah, but.
So I'm burning and I'm like.
And I Was trying to explainthis to Sylvia, and she didn't quite
understand, but I said, like,I've got.
Now I'm curious, if you knowwhat I mean.
So I said, my.
My back hurts so bad, I'mgetting waves of goof.

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Goosebumps over the burn area.
So it's like.
It gets, like, it's like itgets cold and it feels like a breeze
going over and it's.
And it's like the goosebumpsmove, like.
Well, usually.
Usually that's a sign of heatstroke, isn't it?
I think so.
Or someone.
And then I was feelingnauseous then.

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Yeah.
Yeah, like, kind of headache,but not nauseous to puke.
Just did, like, I didn't feel good.
So then I lied down for anhour, went to bed early.
And it feels like leather.
Like your back.
Like you'll.
You'll.
You'll crunch it up.
It feels like wrinkles.
Yeah.
And the wrinkles, it's almostlike a.

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Looks like that girl that Iused to see at the Burger King.
He's coming.
So.
Transcona Cougar.
Transcona Cougar.
Yeah.
It's.
It's like having materialreally, really high in starch.
It's like, oh, my God.
So it's just like, I wasn'tsure if I was going to go to work

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yesterday or not.
I'm like.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
And then.
But I now was.
I thought about calling and,like, I don't feel good.
Like, Sunday, I didn't feel good.
I'm like, if I feel like thistomorrow, I'm not gonna go to work.
Yeah.
Like, I've got.
Yeah.
I had a notice in our mailboxsaying that today, tomorrow, and

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the next day they're doingsewer cleaning.
So they said to put the plugson the sink, close the.
Your toilet seat, take allyour bath mats and stuff out of the
bathroom, put a, you know, puta towel around the toilet type of
thing.

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There might be stuff coming out.
Yeah.
So this morning I had the rollof Costco Saran Wrap.
I Saran Wrap the sink.
Did you really?
I Saran Wrapped the toilet.
Well, fuck, why not?
That's actually a great idea.
And then I put.
I had this big.

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Oh, what's it made out of?
Like a heavy, heavy type ofCorningware or something.
Anyway, in the sink.
So I put the stopper on thesink, put that on top.
Went downstairs, said,somebody putting Ziploc bag or a
bag or something in the floor drain.
So I put a bag underneath thehole cover.
I put a bag on top of the hole cover.

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I've got a mat that the catlitter goes on to.
So I put the mat on top of that.
I put the.
The box of kitty litter on topof that.
And then I had a case ofJevix, and I put that on there too,
just in case something were towant to come up.
So when we got a home and I.
My sense of smell.
I don't have any.

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Yeah, yeah.
So.
So you wouldn't know.
Sewer gas.
I don't.
Who knows?
Yeah.
So as soon as you walk in,Donna says, oh, she went into the
bathroom.
Really just almost gagging and.
Because the reason they'redoing this too, is we had all that.
So much rain.
There's sewer back.
Sewer backing up in certain places.
Sup pumps backing up.

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They're.
They're actually sandbaggingnorth of the city there.
Near Stonewall.
Yeah.
Didn't a bunch of sewage getinto the.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like.
I don't know if that hasanything to do with it, but.
But yeah.
So we came in and, yeah, thesewer smell in the bathroom was just

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horrendous.
So I flushed the toilet tomake sure the trap had water in it.
Did the same with the tub, didthe same with the sink.
But the Saran Wrap that was onthe toilet was wet underneath.
So obviously it did splash upand it kind of got around the sides,
and the towel that was aroundthe toilet kind of got hit.

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But not like, not tons.
Just a little bit.
Just a little bit.
So that wasn't bad.
Now there's still two more days.
What they're gonna do in thenext two days, I don't know, but
I just have to make sure thatit's all covered up again.
Oh, my God.
This is.
This is, like, not been good.

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The amount of rain withtornado warnings.
And here's the thing.
Hail.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So did you, like.
Have you checked to see, like,did any tornadoes drop down?
Did you look into any of that stuff?
Yeah, there was one that wastouched down not.
Not far from here in the airport.
Did they confirm?
Because here's the thing.
I went to Environment Canadaor Weather Channel or whatever, and

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they all said nothing dropped,nothing came down.
But then I looked elsewhere,and it's like.
Yeah.
And they're showing picturesof tornadoes coming down.
Do you think they're notallowed to say that one went down
unless, you know, it's likefreaking Sasquatch.
We've got footage of Sasquatch.

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Are you checking your phone?
Oh, is this video you took?
I can hear the hail.

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Yeah, it was.
It was quite the.
It's quite the storm.
Yeah, it was.
It was.
You didn't get water, though.
No, we've.
We've been very fortunate.
We have never, knock on wood,have had any water here.
So when she had the houseinspected, when she bought it, the
guy said it was solid.
So we've been lucky with no water.

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There's a lot of houses inyour area that have cracked foundations.
Like, you guys are lucky.
Yes, very lucky.
I mean, there's right on thestreet where you used to live, just
as you're coming onto thestreet, there's great big dips there.
They've got big cones.
Water's accumulating there.
It's like a lake.
I've pushed.
I've actually had cars stallright in front of my house over there

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when.
I was on with the water.
Yeah.
Because there was a onerainstorm, I remember, where the
water was easily up to, like,the car window, like the.
Like the pat.
Like the driver's window.
Right.
But you don't.
It doesn't look that deep.
But there was a dip right infront of our house.
So you'd go up and then you go down.

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And when you went down, like,it looked like the water was like.
Like at.
Midway through the tire forheight, but that didn't account for
that dip.
Once you hit the dip, then itwent above your window.
And of course, your nose isdipping as you're driving, so your.
Your complete front of the caris submerged as you hit the dip until

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you go up.
And then the car would juststall right out.
I remember I. I would.
I'm out there in my.
Not my flippers, but my.
My tongs or whatever, my thongs.
And I'm pushing the car to alower water point, like, all the
time when we had those rainstorms.

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And the drain there, it neverdrained properly there because there's,
like, all the roots.
There's a root system insidethe sewers.
So the water's.
The water doesn't drain asfast as it can.
Right, Right.
Yeah.
Crazy.
All right, enough shenanigans, Todd.
Okay, so I've updated.

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So we took two weeks off.
I released an episode this week.
I did an on the road episodewhere I drove.
Sound quality was horrible, of course.
And I ranted about the state of.
I don't know.
I don't remember what I did.
State of AI.
And the state of.

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I ranted about.
I can't Remember.
Well, you go listen to the episode.
But so I wanted to.
As we're approaching our 600thepisode, I kind of.
I did.
I downloaded all the data ofevery single one of her episodes,
threw it into an Excelspreadsheet, and did a lot of formulas,

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a lot of sorting, because Iwanted to see what.
Like, what have we done?
Like, I can't remember.
You know, episode 232.
Like, I don't know what we did.
I don't remember.
Like, do you remember all theguests we've had?
Like, if you had.
If there was a gun to yourhead, could you list every guest
we've had?
Probably not, I can't, no.

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But I wanted to have, like, adatabase of what we've done.
So if we go back and reference stuff.
And I also.
I'm not quite there yet, but Ican create playlists of our episodes
and I can tag every episodewith something so I can say, oh,

(28:34):
we played Pass or Go this episode.
Or we did incorrect headlines, which.
We used to do incorrectheadlines all the time.
We haven't done that in forever.
Well, sometimes we take a leftat Albuquerque and we just forget.
Wait, wait, I gotta play the clip.
Where's my Albuquerque?
Knew I should have made a left.
Tornado.

(28:58):
Mexico.
I like that clip.
I think I did pretty good.
I tried to do the.
The Aussie, he always records,like, in, like, two tracks or maybe
more, and he has one wherehe's, like, really high and he's
got one that's really low.
And then the blend is theAussie sound.
Sound.
Right.
Paul Stanley does a similareffect when he.

(29:18):
When he sings.
He'll have a low and a high.
Right.
But you did the same thing onthis Isn't an Exit on the Dome album.
Do you remember recording that song?
The vocals in that song, wedid two vocals, and one was really
high like that, and the otherone was more middle.
Middle range.
And you blend.

(29:39):
Yeah.
And you blend them bothtogether in.
That effect is similar to theeffect they use on Ozzy and Paul
Stanley.
Yeah.
Well, I think we had.
I think Alex had done a line.
Yep.
Yeah.
And actually was doing, like,screaming, I think.
Was he.
Was he doing screaming?
Oh, no, no, he was just singing.
Sorry.
I was thinking about when.

(30:00):
Before you joined the band.
And then Oli did his too, so.
Because we did a recordingjust with Alex before you were in
the band and before O was inthe band and we recorded.
We recorded, like the.
The A four song demo.
And in the demo.
God, the bass player at thetime, I Can't remember his name now.

(30:24):
Really Great.
You met him.
He was in.
Waiting the answer.
Right.
Super tattooed guy, big tattooin his chest and stuff.
He would come in, just scream.
He always.
He sang background vocals allthe time, which I loved.
And he would.
He was doing, like, the full screams.
And he was always, you know,urging me, scream, scream.
You need to scream more.

(30:45):
He's kind of showing me how to scream.
So on those demos, we had,like, screams in there.
Just like.
Like the.
Sorry, the guttural.
Like a lot of that stuff.
Right.
That didn't cap out.
Eh.
So this actually worked.
I thought it would, like, cut out.

(31:05):
Did it cut out when I went?
No.
Awesome.
Did it do it on the other one?
Yeah.
Oh, we cut it all the time.
It's just too gutteral.
It doesn't.
It doesn't like it, huh?
Yeah, sweet.
But, yeah, I like the vocal on that.

(31:25):
What the.
Oh, yeah.
I was gonna spin the wheel, soI promised we would spin the wheel.
I also promised some people onour disc, on our dit chord, as a
Nicky no good Nick would call it.
I promise we do pass and goevery episode, but I also promise
we'd spin the wheel more often.
Okay.

(31:47):
I don't have the Spin thewheel track ready?
Spinning wheel.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, right.
You know what?
Fuck, we're just gonna do this.
We're gonna.
Gonna play this.
There we go.
Just play the song.
I'm just gonna play the song.
Here we go.

(32:13):
What goes up?
All right, let's spin the wheel.
I've got a wheel here.
And I actually created a wheelwithin Excel too.
I'm such a nerd.
I'm wild in the sheets, if youknow what I'm saying.

(32:34):
So I created a way to puteverything in an Excel sheet.
Spin a wheel.
Because I was using the.
The wheel that Corey uses andall the other shows and stuff, but
I found a way to spin a wheeland Excel.
I am a fucking nerd.
Yeah, it's not.

(32:55):
It's.
I'm not that cool.
I think Excel had an option toput a wheel in it.
Yeah.
So what it is.
And this is.
I'm pretty sure this is whatPlot of Thunder uses, because I think
they use an Excel sheet, to be honest.
They just use an Excel sheetand they have, like.
Because what they do is theyspin out.
They spin a song every episode.
So I'm gonna spin a spinner wheel.
And what I did when I did allthat data, that data dump, I did,

(33:18):
I broke every single topic onour wheel of topics into One of our
types of topics.
Is it a versus?
Is it an incorrect headline?
Is it a rant?
Is it.
So it's a breaking topic.
So it's all separated.
Everything's all separated.
Wow.
Okay, so I'm gonna hit F9.

(33:42):
It's so sexy, the spin button.
But I don't have my glasseson, so I can't see where F9 is.
Let's see, F9 is.
Which one is it?
F8.
F9.
This is ridiculous.
That is the back button.
So the back button.
And I just unplugged my computer.

(34:03):
Look at that.
Plug it back in.
Oh, I've got an F9, but it'snot a back button.
Okay, so I have to hitfunction F9.
Let's see if this works.
I make sure I'm on here.
F9.
Oh, oh.
Topic number 40.

(34:23):
Spinning wheel on Sean's Excel.
He is such a nerd.
Okay, topic 40.
Oh, boy.
Okay, here we go.
Number 40.
Number 40.
Now I guess I could justdecide if we're going to use them

(34:44):
or not.
So number 40.
I'm not.
I'm not prepared.
I got to prep for this one.
I'm going to do it again.
Okay.
Yeah, this is a prep one.
Oh, shit.
I just shut down.
What the fuck?
Sean can't spin the wheel.
Very good.

(35:07):
Number 19.
Number 19.
Here we go.
Bingo.
Oh.
Oh, this one's great.
Okay, we're doing this one.
Okay.
Okay.
What is it?
Is it a rant?
Is it a.
It is a breaking topic.

(35:27):
So breaking is when we talkabout something that really inspired
us, changed our way of thinking.
It could be music, it could be art.
It's generally music.
We're both musicians.
Grand Theft Auto 6.
Grand Theft Auto 6.
That's a breaking for you.
So it's things that broke yourway, broke your brain.
You just.
You just.
You can't.
Like Seven Days to Die.

(35:49):
When I discovered Seven Daysto Die, the video game, it broke
me.
I played obsessively.
I'm currently on day 35 of,like, it counts all your hours of
playing the game.
Right?
I have played 39 full days ofthe game.
Wow, that's way too much.

(36:13):
So this is a breaking rant,and I don't have.
Oh, wait a minute.
Do I have.
I thought you gave me a soundclip to play for breaking.
No, no, I've only given you one.
Okay, all right.
Yeah, we will have clips forall of these.
Trust me.
All right, so here we go.
Topic 19 on the.

(36:34):
On the board.
It's called breaking.
Comparing two songs.
Okay.
There are two.
I'm not.
I'm not going to spoil it just yet.
There's two songs that werewritten to address a specific topic.
Near and dear to you, Yoursand my hearts.
Okay,.

(36:54):
We lost Mr. Shittiac.
No, no, no, no.
We lost the greatest guitarplayer of any generation when Eddie
Van Halen passed.
And there was.
Actually.
There was many artists thatrecorded songs to say goodbye to
Eddie.
But I'm gonna.
I want to address twoparticular songs that were written
for Eddie when he passed.

(37:15):
We're going to compare thetwo, because when Eddie died.
This is why it's a breaking topic.
When Eddie.
Eddie influenced you and Idramatically in a lot of different
ways.
How we listen to music when wehear other bands that have solos
in it.
Everything gets compared to Eddie.
So Eddie's a breaking.

(37:35):
A breaking point for you andI, for sure.
I heard Sammy made one.
Well, that was the first track.
Okay.
So we're gonna listen to it.
Okay.
And we're going to also kindof incorporate a pass or go with
it.
Okay.
And we're going to talk aboutthe song.
You're going to raise your hand.

(37:59):
Well, I don't know if I'veheard it, so.
Oh, okay.
See?
Okay.
Well, then I may need to.
You want me to play the.
The video?
Sure.
All right, I'm going to chair share.
Change our share screen here.

(38:19):
So you didn't realize it was a video?
Yeah.
So raise your hand.
I'll see if I can see yourhand in the smaller screen here.
Maybe I can make this begin tomake this bigger.
All right, that's good.
I'm going to play the video.
And raise your hand when yougot to stop it.
Want to talk about it?
I don't know if we're going toget through the whole song.

(38:39):
You may not be able to getthrough the whole song.
You may want to go through thewhole song.
That's the whole idea of passor go.
Pass or go is you raise yourhand when you got to say, oh, my
God, I got to stop thisbecause I had to talk about it because
it's amazing.
Or you raise your hand becauseyou got to stop it because this is
the worst piece of shit I'veever heard.
That is the rules of pass or go.
Got it.
Got the rules.

(39:05):
Sorry.
There we go.
I may have to turn it up,.
Sam.

(39:53):
Like it never been bone.
Okay.
All right.
What are you gonna say?
That's some different tappingfrom Satriani.

(40:14):
Red.
Red fretboard.
That.
That's what caught me thefirst time.
It was like, it gave me an idea.
Hey, why just have the bodyhave all the stripes on it?
Why not have the fingerboard?
No.
Why not?
That's different.
Instead of the head, just headstock.

(40:37):
It's weird he chose that kindof progression because that's not
really.
I guess that would be Joe'sinterpretation of it.
Yeah, like, if I heard that,it would guy like.
Well, yeah, it sounds likeJoe, honestly.
Yeah.
If.
If.
If a record came out and Eddiewas the one who played that, he would
have played it differently, I think.
Oh, for sure.

(40:57):
Yeah.
Totally agree.
He probably would have usedtwo or three fingers on his right
hand to just kind of do stuffinstead of just the same.
How many fingers was Joe using?
Was he using one?
I believe it was just one.
Okay.
But I know Eddie used to useat least two, three times on some.
Some of his stuff, but.
Oh, that's great analysis.

(41:20):
You don't get this on anyother podcast, folks.
Okay, you can continue.
Continue.
Okay, sure.

(41:46):
Yeah.
Michael, sounds good.
Come out.
Thank you for the music.
Thank you for the song.
Thank you for visit.
What took so long?

(42:09):
Good time fortune pace hurtsyou belong.
Thank you.
I don't know if it's just not.
Maybe it's not coming through stair.
There's just something aboutthe song that's just.
There's something that's.
I won't say off.

(42:30):
It almost sounds like a garageband came up with something to say.
Okay, let's do a tribute to somebody.
Like AI or something.
No, just like a regular garage band.
Like, not.
Not professional musicians.
Just, you know, whatever.
Some guys got together andlet's, you know, let's play this
song.
I don't know.

(42:50):
I'm assuming Joe's going tocome up with a solo at some point.
Yeah.
To try and emulate some of hisstyle, but I guess that's.
That's yet to come.
So could you pick up on some of.
Of the background vocals?
Like Mikey's background vocals?
I believe so.
Yeah.

(43:11):
It's kind of good.
I kind of.
I kind of.
I kind of dug it.
Yeah.
Like, when I.
When I hear a tribute,something like that, it would be
like in the style of.
But in the actual style, notsomeone trying to copy it.
I don't know.
Like, the drummer, like,sounds nothing like Alex.
Oh, God, no, he doesn't havethe same sound.

(43:33):
It looks like Paul Schaefer, too.
Like, that's kind of a.
Yeah, he went from kicking ashot until you.
Shot it, you know?
Yeah.
I mean,.
I don't know, Dave.
I don't Know what you're gonnado with this one?
Yeah, I'm not a fan so far,but if you want to keep.

(43:54):
Keep going, keep going.
I do like that.
Okay, hang on a sec.

(44:14):
I'm gonna take a step back forthe solo here, but is he playing
an Ev.
An Evh.
No, that's Tanabez.
Oh, okay.
That's his.
That's his own signature guitar.
I think I've seen his gearthat he has, and I think he's got
one all striped up, But Ibelieve it's still an I.

(44:35):
But it's still an Ibanez.
That's all.
That's all striped.
Okay, let's.
Let's test out this solo here, see.
If it's any good.
So.
Used to the wizard next, I'm sure.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, you ready?
Yep.

(44:58):
It's.

(45:50):
So the solo sounded like Joetrying to play Eddie.
That's.
That's what it's not.
Because there'd be a littleflare here and there.
That was.
Okay.
That's Eddie Ish.
And then all of a sudden, youhear Joe's signature.

(46:12):
You know, harmonics.
I mean, you can do harmonics.
Anybody do harmonics?
But he does it in a certain way.
Yeah.
He's got suits that has hissignature to it.
Yep.
Same with when he's doinghammer ons on the neck.
Definitely.
You know, Satch type stuff.

(46:35):
I don't know.
You can keep going.
All right, I'll keep going.
Time, fortune, things don'tfeel the same.

(47:04):
I got to thank you.
I got to thank you.
I want to thank you.

(47:26):
Come on.

(47:47):
I've had enough.
Okay.
You know, Joe Saccherani lookslike Paul Schaefer, too.
We could banish the Paul Schaefers.
True.
Yeah.
I mean, it.
I. I keep going to Sacha'ssound, but he did better in that

(48:12):
part.
Sounded.
Yeah, yeah.
Some things you could tellthat, you know, was.
Was him his type of style, butmost of it was kind of Eddie's thing.
The thing with Eddie was hewas a very good.
Because it was only him as theguitar player, he had to play the
rhythms and the solo.

(48:34):
So his rhythms were verycatchy and juicy, whereas Joe was
just kind of slamming somechords, you know, open chords or
whatever.
I mean, that's fine.
But Eddie was more articulate.
Not to say that he should havedone it the other way.
I mean, it's their song.

(48:54):
They can do what they want.
And the style that they wantedto do it.
Me, if I was as talented asthese guys, I wanted to put something
out.
I Would have put it down,like, saying, you know what?
If I would have closed myeyes, I would have known the difference.
That's what I would have beenstriving for.
There's a lot of guys outthere that.

(49:14):
That are like that.
I think there's Shreds andthere's a couple other guys that
I listen to on YouTube and,wow, you close your eyes, you can
tell the difference.
And actually, they have alltheir old albums out and they have
that Eddie style to it.
But, I mean, Satch has beenaround for ages.
He has his own style.
He's been playing for years.
And I like Satch.

(49:34):
I really like his.
Like, yeah, he's got a goodblues in his playing.
And, you know, it's a different.
Different.
So it's a different type of music.
If this were a pass or go.
We'll assume this is a pass or.
I would.
I would pass.
I would pass to you.

(49:55):
Yeah.
You know what?
I appreciate the sentiment, sure.
But Satriani is so good.
But to be copying or copyingEddie or trying to copy Eddie, it
doesn't sound natural.
Satriani sounds like Satriani,but he doesn't even sound really

(50:16):
like Satriani here.
He sounds like a muted versionof Satriani.
He doesn't even sound like himself.
And I think I would have muchmore appreciated Satch just going
off, you know, instead oflike, okay, I need to do this.
I need to do this tapping here.
It's almost like, okay, I'mgonna use these tricks.
Trick.
This trick from this song andthis trick from that song.

(50:37):
It just.
It was trying too hard.
Instead of just writing a songabout being inspired by Eddie, they're
trying too hard to sound like Eddie.
Like, the.
The.
The scale structure of both ofthese players is totally different.
I mean, one's more bluesish.
Mine's more like a Phrygian.
Like, just.
There's just.

(50:58):
You know, you get the.
The major players, which iskind of happy kind of thing.
You have the minor players,which are more of a sad type of scales.
You've got all thesediminished and all these fandangled.
You know, I could never.
I'd love to be able to knowhow to play all these things.
But.
But, yeah, it's just a different.

(51:21):
Different thing.
That'd be like saying, youknow, Malmsteen trying to play jazz
or so.
It's just a different.
He would do it in his own waywhere it would sound.
I don't.
I don't think Yngwie would cop.
I think Yngwie would stillselling yngwie, you know, I think
he would still do his thing.

(51:41):
Like when he.
He's.
He loves Richie Blackmore, for example.
Right.
But when he's playing RichieBlackmore, he still sounds like Yngwie
Malmsteen.
He doesn't sound like he'scopying or he loves Hendrix.
He doesn't sound like he'scopying Hendrix.
It doesn't sound like he'scopying Richie Blackmore.
He sounds.
Still sounds like InkveyJay Malmsteen.
All right, sorry.
Yngvj.
Fucking Momstein.
Sorry.

(52:01):
Correct.
I've gotta say it, right?
But, you know, I think.
I don't know.
This just sounded like phoned in,.
You.
Know, that's what I say.
It's like a garage band thatcame together.
Oh, let's make a tribute to Eddie.
And they did their own thing.
I was like, well, it kind of sounds.
I don't want to say half assbecause it's.
I mean, it was a well done song.

(52:23):
It's just.
It.
It doesn't.
It's not a catchy tune.
Right, right.
Like, it's not like one ofthose things.
Oh, we got to put this on.
We have to put this as thenumber one song on the album.
Yeah, yeah.
Because it's so catchy.
And he leads his concerts withthis song.
He's doing a residency andhe's leading with this song.
It's like.

(52:43):
So.
So who did the other song?
Okay, you ready to hear theother song?
I'm ready to hear the other song.
Okay.
I. I wasn't even gonna playthe rest of this.
I. I didn't.
I didn't know there was asecond song.
Well, there's a second song.
Okay.
Now this song.
So this was Sammy.
So Sammy was the second singerin Van Halen.

(53:04):
You know, from 5150 on, theywent from being a party rock band
to being sexual euphemisms andup for breakfast type lyrics.
Not, you know, oh, you ate one too.
And yeah, like for.
On.
For Uncarnal, for UnlawfulCarnival knowledge.

(53:25):
They did some good albums andthere's some really good songs on
some of those albums.
But it's a.
This is my humble opinion.
And people can call me out andcall me.
I'm Sam, full of.
But I feel that Sammy being inVan Halen.
Van Halen elevated Sammy to abetter songwriting standard than

(53:49):
what he was known for.
It elevated Sammy.
I think they all grew, but Ithink it diminished.
Van Halen is my opinion.
5150 is a very good album, butthere's problems with it.
But I think, like I said, Ithink Sammy went to the next level
and Van Halen came down a notch.

(54:10):
But they also did stuff theyhad never done before, which was
pretty cool, which is why Iliked it.
Your thoughts?
It was very different albumbecause when you're used to, you
know, Van Halen.
One VALENTIN two.
Diver Down, Women, Children,all that stuff, and then you.
And, you know, 1984 was, likethe first album I'd ever heard, and
they had to go into the back catalog.

(54:32):
So once 84 came out, it waslike, okay, when's the next album?
He's like, they broke up.
It's like, freaks sakes.
So then I, you know, the.
The back catalog is what Ilistened to the whole time.
And all of a sudden, when 5150came out, I listened to it.
And then, okay, very firstthing is, like, his squeal comes

(54:52):
out.
Okay.
That's what we all experienced.
Yeah.
And then.
And then Hagar started singing.
I was like, okay, good singer.
Real good.
Oh, baby, yeah.
He's like, okay.
So I was like.
And then I'm listening, I'mgoing, wow.
80S sound.
Sounds a lot different.

(55:13):
Yeah.
Yeah, totally even, like, itwasn't just.
The tone was different.
Everything now he went frommono to stereo.
He was playing that.
Was it a Star Burger?
Well, on some songs.
On some songs, yeah.
But, I mean, I was excitedwhen it came out.
I was like, new Van Allen.
I was excited.
Yeah.
It didn't matter what it was.
I was doing well.

(55:33):
Yeah.
And then, you know, forUnlawful Colonel Knowledge came out.
It was really good.
But by the time, like.
Like I was getting down, like,oh, wow.
There's a lot of ballads andthey're really schmaltzy.
Like, they're really cheesy lyrics.
And at certain point, I'mbored, you know, I got bored.

(55:56):
Look, Van Halen became boring.
They became a little milktoast, if you will.
But.
Okay, but we gotta listen tothe second song.
Okay, so this second song isby Dave.
Dave did a song When?
After he passed.
Yeah, it was Dave and John 5.
John 5, who's currently theguitar player in Motley Crue, previously

(56:18):
played with Marilyn Manson andKatie Langley.
Okay.
He did this song.
So I'm curious, yourinterpretation or what you.
What you think?
So this is.
We're.
So this is a pass or go again,but we're going to do verses against
Sammy's song and Dave's song.

(56:38):
So we're going to have to pickthe better of the two songs.
This is a video.
There is a video of sorts.
So I will adjust my screen.
Okay.
And play this.
There is no video.

(56:58):
Apologies, but there's lyrics.
You can make those working the corner.
When the record deal happenedin a week before I found out I was
sleeping on the floor with mynew best gal In a very, very empty
house.
Wrong kind of non conformiststhat's the case.

(57:22):
And always be in a sleepingbag front of the fireplace.
Your girlfriend and mesomewhere over the rainbow bar and
grill.
Well, I never knew me a bettertime and I guess I never will.

(57:47):
Somewhere about the rainbow bar.
Some say they was happy than me.
I'm happy still.

(58:07):
Down at the local canteen.
You know the smell of freshsawdust when they first throw it
on the floor.
You hear a rocking littlerhythm from inside the rhythm kitchen.
As you're walking past thecanteen door.
120 degrees the good sometimesspreading like humidity.
Now here's what I found out.

(58:28):
This one belongs in the booksor it oughta be.
We're to a shot as we sail outthe authorities impart us and it
happened frequently in asleeping bag front of the fireplace.
Your girlfriend and mesomewhere over the rainbow bar and

(58:54):
Grill.
Well, it's a damn good storyand there's still more to tell somewhere
about the painful bar and grill.
You say times they ain't gotbetter maybe they still will.

(59:17):
We know all the punchlines westill laugh like hell.
One thing never changes.
Still can't afford the film.
What do you think so far?

(59:38):
Wow.
What a different type of song, right?
What a different type of song.
Yeah, I mean this, this would be.
Yeah, I mean the other one ismore of an homage to.
And this one here is more of atribute to.
Yeah, kind of the same, but different.
Like we're not trying to.
To emulate what he's doing.
This is like a song to saythat me and your girlfriend got it

(01:00:00):
on.
No, but it's.
Remembering the good old days.
Yeah.
What do you mean by yourgirlfriend and me?
I don't know.
You talking about like Valerie or.
I don't know, you know, Idon't know what that is, but I don't.
Know what that's all about.
But.
But it isn't.
It isn't like.
So what's your.
Like, it's fun, right?

(01:00:22):
This is.
This is your typical David Lee Roth.
Like when he.
He did a single thing where itwas like.
Like California girl typething, like his, his big band music.
I mean, it was an acoustic song.

(01:00:44):
Yeah.
I don't Know, I. I kind oflike this one better anyway.
But they're both totally different.
Yeah, they're both totally different.
So.
I mean, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't put this on my rotation,.
But if it came up, would you.
Would you skip it?

(01:01:04):
Is this a pass or is this a go?
Well, when I listen to thelyrics, it's almost like I don't
really understand how thispertains to Eddie.
I'm trying to correlate the.
The lyrics with it.
Yeah.
I mean, not having any money,you know, going out, whatever.
I mean, this may have been,you know, when they first met and

(01:01:28):
they first, you know, gottogether and were playing places
and didn't have two pennies torub together.
That.
That could be saying, like,this is where we came from, this
is when we met.
This was our history.
That.
That aspect.
La.
I'm gonna play another songafter this, but that's kind of related,

(01:01:50):
but.
Okay, so.
Are you just trying to trick me?
This has nothing to do.
Well, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm.
It depends what you mean bypasses in.
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't put it in my playlist.

(01:02:12):
But you wouldn't skip it.
Would you skip it if it came on?
It's a half and half.
It's one of those.
It depends on what headspaceI'm in.
I think that's a go.
Let's go.
I don't think it's.
It's enough.
I. I've actually added this to play.
To playlist for.
For me, this is.
This is a.
Sorry, It's a pass for you.
Sorry.
It's a go for me.

(01:02:33):
I like this.
I like the melancholy natureof, like, the.
The chords.
Like the.
The choice of chords.
Even if you don't even look atthe words, like, the choice of chords.
It's.
It's pleasant, it's melancholic.
It's not really sad.
It's more like reflective,like the chords they're using.

(01:02:54):
I like the way he does his voice.
I miss his voice.
Sounds good here, too.
Very good.
Like, I miss.
When he was.
You know, he'd sing and thenall of a sudden he'd go down.
He'd talk like he wasnarrating something, and then he'd
go back up again.
That I miss.
And when I.
When we would do the VanHalen, Van Hager era, and we talked

(01:03:17):
about it and I said, you know,I really enjoy the.
The Dave era when he was athis peak.
Yeah, it was just a whole different.
It was almost like twodifferent bands.
And this was, this was, well,like way after, like eat him and
smile and stuff.
He sounds good here.
He's singing in his range.
He's hitting the high notesvery well.
Like there's higher notes hereand he's hitting them very well.

(01:03:39):
He sounds fantastic on here.
There's some Edom and Smileesque type of the way he's singing
it.
Yeah.
So I mean, like I said, itwould depend.
I mean, if it came on,depending on what mood I'm in, I
might want to listen to it.
Sure.
If I'm into a certain genrethat I'm listening to, it's like,

(01:04:01):
well, this is too slow for meright now.
I mean to speed it up.
But on its own it's good.
Okay.
So you, you'll give it a go,but it's not like you're not going
to chase after it, but you'renot gonna probably turn it off.
I would probably listen tothis more than I would with, with
the other one.
Okay.
I'm the same.
I, I, I don't love it, but Idon't dislike it at all.

(01:04:21):
I think it's fine.
Now this brings up.
There's another song that Davedid a long time ago that, That I.
All I kind of felt was.

(01:04:42):
An.
Homage to those days where hemissed the days with.
I think you know, this onejust a jiggle.
No, no, no.
Yes.
Now, to me this feels morelike it's not a rest in peace Eddie,
but it's.
I miss those days.

(01:05:02):
And if you like.
And if you look at the words,I'll bring up the words for this
too.
Oh, and Dave, Dave's vocalsounds so good.
And Steve, Steve is notcopying Eddie here.
No.
At all.
This is still pure Steve Vai y.
But it's, it's so tender.

(01:05:27):
Isn't that nice?
Yes, very good.
I love it.
Sound like.
This is not a favorite Davealbum for a lot of people, but I
love this.
Actually, I like this albummore than I like Eat him and Smile.
Eat him and Smile.
I like for nostalgia, but thisis the album I always go back to.

(01:05:47):
This is the type of song whereyou kick back, put the headphones
on and just let the music justenvelop your body.
Listen to Dave's voice here.

(01:06:10):
Just got enough rasp in there.
But not too much in the words.
Time.
We were laughing as we reachfor the star and we had some.

(01:06:31):
What a great.
Or even talk to Steve Vai andask him what he thought about this
song and what he thinks it's about.
It meant.
Yes.
What.
What it was about.
Because I wonder if he.
He's thinking, yeah, Dave wasreminiscing, and I just kind of,
you know.
Well, I wonder if, like, Iwonder, did Dave come with the lyrics

(01:06:54):
first or did Steve come upwith the parts first?
Because I.
My impression was Steve cameup with the parts, and then it would
make Dave feel a certain way,and his lyrics would reflect that.
Can I just want to point outthis line?
As we reach for the stars andwe had some for what it was worth.
That is poetry.

(01:07:14):
That's not a. Sammy Hague earlier.
Eric.
That's deep.
That is so cool.
It.
There's.
We had some stars.
It's like minimal words thatmeans so much.
There's so much involved in it.
It's like we capturedlightning in a bottle.
We actually had stars.
Yeah.
For what it was worth, like,we had.

(01:07:35):
We captured the lightning in a bottle.
But there was so muchdisharmony in the band, especially
around 83, 84 or whatever it was.
Yeah.
I mean, once.
Once they hit that album,then, yeah, it just went.
But we had stars.
For what it was worth.
It was horrible.
We weren't getting along.

(01:07:55):
We weren't talking.
We were fighting.
We were fighting, but we hadthe stars.
So it's almost like we finallyattained that pinnacle of perfection
in our music.
But I think there's a lot ofbands like that.
A lot of bands that haveconflict always seem to thrive.
And I'm not sure what.
What.
Why that is, what the formula is.
I mean, shortly after they.

(01:08:16):
They usually break up, butthey usually come out.
It's almost like they bringout the best of each other during
the conflict.
I don't know if it's.
Maybe they're trying to outdoeach other, so they're trying to
push themselves harder.
I don't know if that makessense at all.
Yeah.
So let's compare this to theSammy lyric.
Okay.
So I think damn good is a.

(01:08:38):
Better versus categories.
So here's the lyrics of theSammy song.
Try not to laugh.
Standing right there in frontof me like he'd never been gone over
in a corner we wrote this songcoming out of a dream trying to hold
on to that melody Anotherdream becomes a reality over in the

(01:09:00):
corner Getting high, high,high Come on.
Thank you for the music.
Music like, wow.
Compare that to Dave's song here.
So I'm gonna read Dave'slyrics here.
You get an hour to write some lyrics.
Okay, well, let's.
Let's throw it all together here.

(01:09:21):
Okay, so here's Dave's lyricsjust for people can't get the visual.
Time rolls on and that's as itshould be Here and gone seems to
move so quickly.
Man, we were happy in ourrestless hearts it was heaven right
here on earth yeah we werelaughing as we reached for the stars

(01:09:41):
and we had some for what itwas worth Todd, in a pure versus
mode.
What's the better lyric ofthose two?
Oh, Dave's got the betterlyric on this one.
Like by a mile by.
It.
It's.
If you compare them, it'salmost like someone who has had experience
writing lyrics versus someonewho's entered a contest versus.

(01:10:05):
A six year old lyrics.
Yeah, it's not.
It's not even in the same.
Like, it's comparing apples tooranges like they can't.
Like.
Like, you know, Sammy's beenaround for a long time.
He's written a lot of songs,but like he's never attained this.
Snap and bone splatting bone.

(01:10:27):
Can we listen to a little bit more?
Damn good.
Oh yeah.
Okay, let's go.
Those were good times.
Little Middle Easterninfluence on the guitar there.

(01:10:48):
Good times.
Damn good times.
Hey, take a look at this picture.
Can you believe that was you?

(01:11:09):
And who's that standing therein the corner?
Not me.
All the crazy things we usedto do.
Sure.
We was acting like a couple of kids.
Good to remember, you knowthat it is.

(01:11:32):
I still feel it like the sunon my skin.
Maybe that's better.
That's making me tear up.
It's like.
It's like when Steve vai likesome of the songs that he does on

(01:11:54):
his Passion Warfare Dave has.
He's exuding the same type of mood.
Same.
The same type of.
Exactly.
That's exactly feeling like.
It's just.
He's not countering whatSteve's doing.

(01:12:14):
He's complimenting whatSteve's doing and he's not forcing
it.
It's just like he's laid backand he's singing it like that's just
the way it is and that's theway it was.
And here's the story of whatwe did.
And he does it in such a waythat it.
Yeah, it just.

(01:12:36):
It's an emotional song actually.
Whereas the other song is totally.
Say it's a totally different animal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm feeling a lot of stuffright now.
Yeah, it's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If.
If he would have came out withthis song after Eddie passed, this

(01:12:58):
would have won hands down for sure.
Okay, so if we had to doverses between this and the Sammy
Song.
Oh, it's not even a contest.
I don't know what lyrically,musically, Sammy should.
Sammy should sing this one.
The very first.
You know, it's.
It's funny because Steve Vai.
Joe Satriani.

(01:13:18):
Joe Satriani taught Steve.
I like Steve.
I took guitar lessons from Joe Satriani.
They're so.
They're similar animals insome ways.
Their styles are very, very different.
But Steve never as the.
As the quote, unquote,replacement guitarist for.
For Eddie.
He never tried to be Eddie.

(01:13:40):
No.
Never tried to emulate him.
He had his own style.
I mean, he.
He came back.
He came from, what, Alcatrazand Frank Zappa and, you know, all
these other ones that werejust totally different type of music
altogether either.
And if you ever heard hisflexible album, it's like.
That's just like an alien.
Did you know that in Alcatraz,who the first guitarist was?

(01:14:06):
Yeah.
It's so small.
I had to follow Yngwie.
You know, it's like.
But he didn't try to copy.
No, he doesn't try.
I was like, I can't play like.
Like, I've heard interviewswith him.
He did a really good interviewwith Billy Corgan.
It was like an hour interviewwith Billy Crawford.
Fantastic.
And he's like.
He never tried to copy.

(01:14:29):
I can't play like Ingv Monstine.
Why would I even try?
He's amazing.
I can't play like Eddie.
I can't.
Like, he never tried.
But this Sammy song, it'slike, well, I'm gonna try to sound
like Eddie.
And you.
You don't.
You sound.
You don't even sound likeEddie Light.
You don't sound like Satrian.
You don't.
You don't sound like anybody.

(01:14:50):
There's no identity to hisplaying, which is frustrating because
Joe Satrian is so talented.
He's so good.
And I feel.
And okay, this.
Do I need to play the rantmusic here?
Maybe I gotta play the rant music.
Okay, let's play while I'm ranting.
Rant music.
There we go.

(01:15:16):
Turn it on.
Sorry.
Okay.
I forgot where I was going.
You know, he's so good.
He's.
Joe is so good, and he wantedso bad.
I want to be in a band withthe singer.
I want to be in it.
I want to write some rocksongs, some poppy rock songs.

(01:15:40):
I want to have some singles onthe record.
He wanted so hard to just, youknow, play along with, you know,
like a singer and be in a band.
He just wanted to be in a band.
Band not like a Joe Satriana,but he wanted to be in a band.
Band.
He tried so hard.
But when Steve got thatopportunity, he's like, I'm Steve

(01:16:00):
Vai, man.
I'm gonna be Steve Vai.
I'm gonna be weird andflexible and all this.
Right?
He never, he never once tried.
I mean, even when he played with.
With White Snake.
Oh, he was still Steve Vai.
It was still Steve Vai.
Yeah.
There's no confusing him for,for who he was.
And Joe.

(01:16:20):
And Joe doesn't sound like Joe.
Joe doesn't sound like Ed.
It's frustrating.
It makes me angry.
Angry.
Okay, so here's something else.
So did you know that there'sother bands that also did some Eddie
tributes when Eddie passed away?
No, I. I'm just learning thisright now.

(01:16:40):
So I'm gonna actually playparts of.
I don't know if.
How far I'm gonna get.
So if we're doing a four waycompetition, okay.
For best Eddie Post Eddie song.
Now is this gonna be in thestyle of Eddie or is this gonna be

(01:17:02):
totally different?
I don't know.
I've never heard this song.
This is the first time I'veheard of this song.
Song.
It's by the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
They have a song called Eddiethat was released after Eddie died,
apparently to honor Eddie.
So let's feel the carnage.
All right.

(01:17:46):
Sailing the Sunset Strip I'm abit of a king Granddaughter take
a trail I've been bending the stream.
Got Amazon.
Both my hands Such a delicatetouch the simple Amsterdam does that

(01:18:10):
make me.
Oh, horseshit.
This would come after theSammy one.
Pass.
Pass.
This is horseshit.
This is garbage.

(01:18:32):
Wow.
What the.
Okay, this is.
Does it get better?
I don't know.
Do you want to try?
Just speed it up about halfway through.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's go halfway through.
I don't even know which guitarplayer this is.
I have no idea.

(01:18:57):
I can't, I can't, I can't.
This is almost garbage.
It's almost like they regurgitate.
Regurgitated one of their ownsongs and tried to.
Yeah.
Write some lyrics to put.
Yeah.
It's just weird.
I would say so.
I don't like the Chili Pepperspost Give it Away time.
I. I think they get, they, they.

(01:19:19):
They get so commercial.
So commercial.
And I can't get past his lispwhen he thinks it's really hard to
focus.
I can't, I can't.
I. I just can't.
I don't.
I. I don't.
I don't like him as a lyricist.
I don't like him as a singer.
I liked it when he was doing funk.

(01:19:39):
I don't like this stuff.
I don't.
This new stuff, I. I don'tlike it at all.
Wow.
That was garbage.
I'm sorry.
The Dream Canteen.
Yeah.
I. I don't even understandwhat that means.
Yeah.
And I don't understand theCOVID either.
That it.
It looks just.

(01:20:01):
It's like someone throwing abunch of paint against the thing
and calling it art.
Yeah.
It's not good.
Okay, so I'm going to playanother one.
So there's one more tribute.
We'll.
We'll.
We'll finish with this last tribute.
Okay.
I've got high expectations here.
I'm not going to tell you whoit is.
Okay.
Or what it is, but I've gotvery, very high expectations for
this one.

(01:20:21):
Hopefully it's good.
I know you're a fan of theguitar player here.
Let's give it a go and see ifyou like it.
Rush.

(01:20:48):
Sam.

(01:21:19):
There.

(01:21:48):
Sa.

(01:22:11):
Started off with Jump.
Wow.
What did you think of that?
Wow.
That was.
That was pretty cool.
It's called For Edward.
I would.
I would rank this one afterDamn good, actually.
Yeah.
Yeah, Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
You know, me too.
So winner is damn good.

(01:22:32):
Yeah.
This is number two.
This is close, though.
This is really.
Actually, I felt emotionallistening to it, but I. I know who
it is.
This is Nancy Wilson from Heart.
Oh, wow.
It's like.
She's so good.
Whoa.
Is that her ovation?

(01:22:54):
She's so good.
She's so talented.
People need to talk about hermore often.
That was beautiful.
Like, the.
The whole composition of that.
Yes, that was very good.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That got me, you know.
No words needed.
Nope.
No.
But I'm emotional right now.

(01:23:16):
Well, the guitar can be.
Can be very emotional, like,if you can really channel into it,
like some of the songs just.
Just like this one.
Same.
Same idea.
That was just nice.
So that's called For Edward byNancy Wilson.
I don't know how or where itwas released, but, I mean, she was
obviously.
She knew Eddie.

(01:23:37):
Of course she knew Eddie, youknow, and then.
I don't know.
That really got me.
That one really got me.
Get me a little vert left.
Yeah, that was.
I don't know.
That was really pretty.
Oh, what was that?

(01:23:58):
You come show me some guitar chords.
Oh, Nancy Wilson can show mesome guitar chords.
That's for sure.
Bubbles talking to Alex Liveson.
Yep.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
But I will say, have you Watched.
Any of the footage of theconcert for Rush.
I. I've been holding off.

(01:24:20):
Oh, my God, Todd.
I don't know if I can watch it.
I am so.
I'm.
Look, my kid's playing soccerright now, and I watch her games
and I watch her play, and Iwatch her fucking put her heart into
it.
And I'm.
And I'm, like, doing the olddad thing, clearing my throat, and

(01:24:42):
I'm so.
I'm so emotional watchingthese games, watching my daughter
find fucking passion in something.
I don't know if I can.
And I'm having.
I have a hard time watchingher games because I'm just, like,
so immensely proud.
Yeah.
So immensely proud.
I don't know if I could watchthis Rush thing because it's like,
okay, like, I'm almost cryingat the games.

(01:25:05):
I'm gonna watch this Rush thing.
And.
And Rush is obviously veryimportant to both of us.
I don't know.
I. I don't know if.
And I've heard reviews ofpeople that have been to some of
the shows and.
Wow, so it's that good, eh?
The doctor would be proud.
You know what?
And not to give her.
This might be a spoiler, sosomeone might want to fast forward.

(01:25:31):
I saw footage, like, at thevery beginning.
They have, like, a screenbehind them, right?
Yeah.
And they're.
And they're showing somefootage and stuff, and it shows.
And Alex and Geddy are dressedup like different characters.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
When they do that, those skits or.

(01:25:52):
Whatever did the whole thing.
I won't get into the specificspecifics of that, but you watch
it, you'll see.
But there's one part, I guess, the.
The.
There's these three kids thatare looking.
They're looking for Rush, andthey go.
And they talk to one person.
He says, go look here.
And he goes in.
They go down this hallway.
Right.
It's almost like a.

(01:26:12):
Not a horror movie, but kindof like a. Yeah, I guess.
Kind of like a horror movietype thing.
And then there's differentdoors, and they go into different
doors, and there's different people.
There's different things goingon in there.
One of them was, do youremember I love you, man?
Oh, yeah.
And the guy's slapping the bass.
Yep.
And they're playing Rush.
Yeah.
Those two guys were in one ofthe rooms.

(01:26:33):
What?
And they're talking to them.
It says, how long we've beenhere, man?
I think we've been here, like,26 years or something.
Like.
Like whenever that.
That movie came out.
Right.
It was pretty funny.
They had like, like funnyskits like that.
And just before they come on,I guess while the kids went into
this one room and I guess Alexand Getty were dressed up like old.

(01:26:58):
And then they looked up andthey could see the kimonos.
Remember they used to wear thekimonos in the 70s.
So they looked at the kimonosor something and then the guy went
and opened up the dresser andthey said, no, no.
And then all of a sudden camehe get the flashbacks and it shows
little clips of when theyfirst started.
Oh yeah.
As.
As the time went on.
And then all of a sudden this.

(01:27:19):
There's a screen in front ofthem on the stage and it's like blue
fire type of thing.
Right.
Just kind of rising up.
And then you see thesilhouettes of them back in the day
when they had the long hairand like their actual silhouettes
with their double neck guitars.
So yeah, Getty's got thedouble neck bass or he's got the
bass guitar, like the double neck.
Alex got the 12 string, 6string SG.

(01:27:43):
Double neck.
So it shows their syllabusfrom back in the 70s.
And then as the screens comingup and then all of a sudden it shows
them now and then they start playing.
I can't remember if it wasXanadu or what it was, but I heard
they played.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
And then there's.
There's one video I waswatching and it was.

(01:28:04):
Was, I think pretty much thewhole concert just showing Anika
Niles playing.
And when you've listened toenough Rush songs and because Neil's
got such a certain, you know,where all the fills are, you know,
where all the, you know, whenhe, he has the light touch and he

(01:28:25):
works into it or he getstriplets or he does his roles and
the way he does them andespecially when he's using the cymbal
work.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
And when you're listening andyou watching her play the songs,
it's like, oh my God.
Yeah, yeah, they.
They picked and.

(01:28:46):
And I've watched a couple ofvideos of her playing with like before
this, like when she was playing.
Yeah.
Other stuff.
And it was very progressive.
It's like jazzy almost wherethe timings are different and it's
just like, that's so she kindof fit in well.
Like they did their homework,like when they, when they picked

(01:29:06):
her.
So that was.
Know when to pick.
Yeah.
I can't wait until the.
I mean, I'll probably stilljust keep watching the videos, but
I Can't wait till there's anofficial live thing because they
had camera people there.
Official camera people.
So.
So I'm sure at some pointthey're gonna have something released.

(01:29:27):
Oh, there's no way.
When they do, I'll be.
I'll be buying it for sure.
I've got a 4K player.
There's no way I'm not buyingit in 4K.
I have to buy.
Yeah.
So if, if you get a chance.
I mean, I've got a link of the one.
Yeah, send me the links.
Yeah.
And it's in.
It's very.
It's the very first.
It was like the debut whenthey first come out.

(01:29:47):
I mean even had.
There was a clip of.
Of south park when they had Rush.
They were playing, pretendingthey were Rush and they had that
clip on there too.
Like they took a bunch of stuff.
Right.
So like the good homagesthings, right?
Yeah.
And they're very light heartedand you can tell they're like when
they say.
When someone says you'reCanadian, there's a certain.

(01:30:13):
I don't know how you want tosay it.
Like it's a certain type of person.
It's a whole different thing.
Like even, you know bandslike, even when they're.
When they're interacting witheach other and when you talk to them.
When they were both interview.
And even I think was it wasinterviewed by.

(01:30:33):
Was it Jeff Beatty or bd?
I can't be out of.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So.
And you can tell like just bythe interview, like the way that
they, they interact and they talk.
You can tell they're.
They're like down to earth people.
Like they're not.
Oh yeah.
They don't have a stick uptheir ass.
Not that other countries havepeople would stick up their asses,

(01:30:53):
but just.
I'm just saying that.
They're so Canadian.
Yeah.
They're just so.
But that's what we like themdown to earth.
Yeah.
They never Americanized themselves.
They never changed who they were.
Were two kids from Ontario.
Yeah.
It's the ego thing.
They're.
They're not egotistical.
We were playing in basements.
It's like, I'm a big rockstar, look at me type of thing.

(01:31:16):
No, these are.
They just play.
Just let the music play.
And.
And that's who we are after actually.
After reading Getty's book.
Like even I read those yet.
Oh.
Even though I didn't have anopinion on Getty, that he was an
asshole.
I never had that bad opinion.
Of course.
Ever.

(01:31:36):
But after reading the Book.
I'm like, you think he's agood guy?
Do you think he's a nice guy?
Right?
Yeah.
And then you read the book andyou're like, no, he's way more than
that.
Like, he's better than Ithought he was.
And I thought he was great.
I thought you're gonna sayhe's a real.
I'm thinking, like, I want to, like,.

(01:31:56):
Give the guy a hug.
If I ever met him, I'd want togive the guy a hug.
Doug.
Like, his history is very,very interesting.
His writing as a.
Writing his own book by himself.
Yeah.
Great.
It's.
It's a.
It's a. I want to go by.
I want to get a heart.
Like, I. I bought, like.
I bought it on kindle for,like, 10 bucks or whatever it was.

(01:32:18):
He's like, I don't know.
Like, he's not a writer.
He's not going to write a goodbook, you know?
And then I'm like, I read the book.
Like, this is like, one of thebest rock but autobiographies.
It might be the best rockautobiography I've ever read.
Wow.
It actually made me cry.

(01:32:39):
Wow.
I was reading parts of it and,like, I like their music more after
reading that book.
Wow.
So it's that good.
I. I wanted to buy ahardcover, like.
Well, with veto.
The, like, the interview theydid did.
It was like.
It was nice to hear how theykind of started without having to
buy a book type of thing where.

(01:33:00):
Yeah.
They go through, like.
Well, then that documentarythey have is good too, right?
Oh, which doc?
I probably saw it.
What was it?
Which one was that?
Beyond the Lightest Age.
Did you.
I. I probably saw it.
I have it.
I bought it, like, in, like, aspecial edition of it.

(01:33:20):
If you haven't seen it, like,it on Blu Ray, it's.
It's fantastic.
It's.
It's my favorite documentaryon any band ever.
Yeah.
But anyway, sorry.
The Rick Beato thing.
So they kind of went back inthe past and.
Yeah.
And then when they.
When they had their.
I guess 2112 was one of thosemake or break things.
Like, we do it or we don't.
Like, if we.

(01:33:41):
If it doesn't work out, then,you know, I get to work with my dad
or whatever.
Yeah, that was.
That was a massive freaking gambler.
And it went off and it worked.
And then, you know, andanybody who goes to a music store,
like a guitarist, for example,and, you know, they had gas and call

(01:34:01):
it gear acquisition orwhatever, you know, and you go there
and you look at.
You know, I'd love to buy that guitar.
That's my dream guitar right there.
And every time you go there,it's there, and you keep looking
at it.
And then it got to it once.
2112, I guess, made it type of thing.
I guess they got an advance or.
Something, and they're able tobuy some property.

(01:34:23):
So they were able to go downand get, you know, a couple marshals
and some guitars and stuff.
But, yeah, it was interesting.
It was funny.
They had so much resistance totheir music because it was so ahead
of its time.
Nobody did that kind of music before.
No, it was a different.
It was a different animal.

(01:34:44):
For sure.
For sure.
And I don't know how theirupbringing really came into that
type of songwriting.
Now.
Read the book.
I tell you.
Okay.
It really explains a lot ofstuff that I wasn't aware of.
It makes me appreciate themusic even more.
Yeah.
And even, like, the originaldrummer, like, I appreciate him even

(01:35:04):
more now, you.
Know, Even if I didn't.
Even if I did see it, I'dwatch it again.
You should.
Well, I can lend it to you,but it's also on prime, too.
I think you could watch it onthere, too.
Oh, okay.
Well, if it's on Prime, Ishould be able to find it.
But, I mean, you got ways towatch stuff.
Yeah, but.
Wow.

(01:35:26):
Yeah, but we did it, Todd.
We did 5.99.
Well, we was a loaded episode.
And.
And.
And as Dave would say, stuff.
Give me a bottle of anything and.
A glazed donut to go.
To go.
Or.
Or.
Or.
This.
I. I did this quote.
I.
This one I did just for you.

(01:35:48):
One man, one decision.
One desire.
They found it.
They found the clip.
The desire where it came from.
Did you like that?
Oh, you just muted yourself.

(01:36:14):
Oh, you just unmuted your.
You muted yourself, Todd.
Wow, this is a great finale.
Can you turn your mute off?
Can you hear me?

(01:36:36):
You're muted, Todd.
You're muted.
Oh, my God.
Was I muted?
Yeah, the whole time.
That whole time.
Oh, for Christ.
Jesus.
You probably said somethinglike, very poetic.
No, I said that was.
That was Tracy who had broughtthat up.

(01:36:56):
Yeah, that.
The desire.
I said.
I said, yeah, that's where Igot it from.
So she called.
She called me out.
She found it.
Yeah, she found it.
That's great.
I. I do want to say so, like,in, like, the last several episodes
we've done, after I did thatbig dive into our content to see
what we've done over the last,you know, 10 years, Tracy was, like,

(01:37:18):
on the show all the time backin the day.
So it was good that we finallybrought her back.
And then she.
From our show, she went and did.
She did a show with Corey.
She did an episode of hismixtapes from Hell where they talk
about Cinderella.
Great, great episode.
So we, you know, going back to.
Going back to the well forsome old things.

(01:37:39):
We did a pass or go and aversus today.
Right.
We didn't do an incorrect headlines.
Well, I think we'll.
I have a bunch of those saved up.
We can do those for our 600th episode.
But I don't know, man.
This is.
This has been a ride and I'mstill having fun.
If hopefully you're stillhaving fun and you're muted again.

(01:38:03):
What the hell?
What are you doing there, man?
The heck?
Why do you keep muting yourself?

(01:38:24):
There you are.
My zoom keeps dropping powerfor some odd reason.
I don't know.
All right, well, let's cap itoff there.
Alrighty.
So we'll be back for episode 600.
I'm not sure if we can recordnext week or not, but Tuesday seems
to be my day to do it.
It.
If you're free on Tuesday.
Okay.
I don't want to bring anyguests on yet.

(01:38:47):
We can go back to guests andafter we finish 600, we got to get
600 out of the way and then wecan go back.
We got some episode suggestions.
There's people that want tocome on and hang out with us, but
I wanted to make sure these5.99 and 600 was just you and I going
back to the old formula.

(01:39:07):
Just you and.
But hopefully we can finishthose clips up.
Yeah.
Like I said, off the air.
I sent you a clip.
I don't know if you can doanything with it.
Todd, I sent you the instrumental.
If you can do anything with itand create something off of that.
I have something planned forone Kevin Brown teasing it here,

(01:39:30):
but it's.
It might lyrically and vocallyspeaking, I think is going to be
the best thing I've ever done.
Better than anything off dome.
Okay.
But I. I created a.
An epic song about Mr. Brown.
Mr. Brown.
Mr. Brown, please let me down.

(01:39:51):
Yeah, cool.
Cool.
Anyway, Sayanara.
Oh, we gotta thank the patronsbefore we leave.
See, we already forgot that part.
So Patreons, we have a new one.
So we're gonna go through the list.
We have tier one, tier two,tier three.
And was there another tier?
No, no.
Well, there's tier four.

(01:40:11):
The.
The that those knuckleheads from.
From Metal Shop came up withlike a 94 tier or something.
Wow.
Okay.
I don't know.
You get to, you get to makesong suggestions for their show.
So they're, they're trying to,they're trying to raise revenue for
this show, but I think so, butI can't remember what is 94?

(01:40:33):
Something like that.
But anyway, so we got three tiers.
The first tier gets you earlyaccess to everything.
All the episodes show up onPatreon first and then they eventually
come out on Monday releasesfor the regular part of the show.
When you get those on tierone, which is the five dollar tier.
Right, Todd?

(01:40:54):
I don't have the numbers in front.
Of me, but yeah, certifiedgeek is $5 a month.
And what's the $10 one give us?
True Geek is $10 a month.
And that's the one where youcan make suggestions.
You can make Pass or Go suggestions.
You can make wheel of topicsuggestions, I believe.
Exclusive access to theDiscord server, behind the scenes

(01:41:15):
content and bloopers.
If you're on the Discordserver, you get extra content on
our Patreon, but you also getto be on the Discord on the Dit Chord
server, as they say.
And you can make.
Yeah, and you can makesuggestions on Pass or go.
If you want to hear a song.
You want Todd and I to talkabout a song, but also suggestions

(01:41:37):
to add to the Wheelo Spite,which is our wheel of topics.
If you want to add stuff onthe wheel of topics, you can do so
in our Dit Chord server.
Cool.
And then the.
What's the other tier give us?
I can't remember.
Supreme geek, which is 20amonth.
You get everything in tier oneand two.
Personal video message fromthe hosts recorded just for you when

(01:42:00):
you join.
Name handle featured on showsocial media as a top supporter.
Oh yes, that one's pretty cool.
Oh yeah, here we go.
I've got it.
So Supreme Geek, $20 a month.
You are the pinnacle, theapex, the Supreme Geek.
You get everything from thelower tiers, but when you join at
this level, you we willpersonally record a video message

(01:42:21):
just for you.
Oh, we got to do that, I guessbecause you deserve to be recognized.
Your name also gets featuredon our social media as one of our
top supporters.
You're not just keeping thelights on.
You're helping us grow.
We owe you.
Seriously.
So that's pretty cool.
Yeah.
So our, our patrons, we'regonna call them out every single
episode.
Some people have a pod role.

(01:42:42):
We have a Patreon role.
Riggum Ronald George Moore.
Yes.
From the Manitoba Money Shotpodcast, which is.
That's still my number one podcast.
It's the one I listen to.
And I also did something veryspecial, which he may not have noticed.
I have upped my donation, mymonthly donations to his show because

(01:43:02):
honestly, the show I go tofirst over everyone else is my favorite
show.
I don't know why it is.
It just is.
How's that treadmill going?
It's going well.
Sweet.
Yeah.
The Supreme Queen uses it allthe time.
I think she uses it, likeevery day.
Right on.
Sam Thompson.
Good to see it as you.
Yeah.

(01:43:22):
Sam Thompson's another one ofher patrons.
Sam.
Sammy.
I've got nothing to say about Sam.
Sam is, is the best.
I've got nothing.
Nothing like I like.
What do you say about Sam?
He's like the, the innovatorof diy.
Yes.
Probably runs Dip Dip Podcast.

(01:43:43):
I don't know.
I don't know.
Do it yourself podcast.
His, his show's been runningeven longer than ours.
He's an OG of the podcastscene in Canada.
Nevermind, Manitoba.
I've, I've listened to more Mute.
No.
I've discovered more new musiclistening to his show than any other
show out there.
He is, is the og.
He's one of the best.

(01:44:04):
Ruby.
He's got a thicker, he's got athicker mustache.
Yes.
Than Tom Selleck.
Than.
Well, Tom Selleck.
Yeah.
He's the Tom Selleck ofpodcasting folks.
Yeah.
Also known as Samuel Solar.
Yeah.
Like Sven Schven on the Archie comics.
Remember Sven?
Yeah, I totally remember Sven.

(01:44:25):
Ruby.
Living through extinction.
She's just, she's, she's,she's special.
She, she makes me think.
I, I appreciate her show.
She makes me think.
Makes me.
Yeah.
Second guess certain things.
It's like sometimes you makeassumptions about the world, but
it's uninformed.
She's always good at bringingthe, the, the facts, bringing the

(01:44:46):
stuff.
And she's sweet lady.
I, I, I simply adore her.
She's fantastic.
Professional.
Right out of the gate.
Right.
Episode one.
She was leaps and bounds aheadof the rest of us.
Definitely.
And be skeptical, damn it.
Yeah, be skeptical, damn it.
In terms of other podcasters,there's also Corey Morissette and

(01:45:10):
the podcast Will Rock UltimateCatalog, Clash, and a host of other
ones.
Power, Positive, Geeking.
He's got, he's got morepodcasts than anyone I know.
Yeah.
More podcasts than I have toes.
Maybe, Maybe he's got a lot,but he's, People have started calling

(01:45:32):
him the Podfather.
He's currently, I Can see it.
Yeah.
He's currently hosting myother favorite show, which is the
ultimate catalog.
Sorry, not Ultimate Catalog.
Clash.
I do like that show, don't getme wrong.
But he is Mixtapes From Hell,which is covering Cinderella, with
which every Monday morning.
I can't wait for it to drop.
I just can't wait.
He's got a great show withDwayne and one of our other patrons,

(01:45:56):
which is our new patron, Danny Pabst.
Danny Papathopoulos, he's theone of the co hosts on that show.
There's him, Dwayne and Corey.
This season they're coveringCinderella and they're going to build
a mixtape based on the.
I think it's 18 favoriteCinderella songs to build a mixtape

(01:46:16):
that will fill a maxel 90 minute.
Nice.
Nice.
It's a fantastic show.
The geekery is alive and wellin that show and they're just pure
sheer bliss of being able tolisten to Cinderella is.
It's intoxicating.
I. I listen to that show andI'm like, yeah, like I'm actually,

(01:46:38):
you know, actively stand upfrom my chair.
It's not safe for me to listento at work anymore because I get
too excited.
Especially this week's episodeI was dancing along with, with the
three of them.
It was great.
Kevin Brown is also another patron.
Kevin Brown, who we mentionedbefore, who I'm writing a song, a

(01:46:59):
diss track for Kevin Brown,which hopefully Todd can provide
the music for.
Kevin Brown has got tons ofhis podcasts.
Get Tom Petty, he's got Queen.
He's part of the ultimatecatalog clash with Corey.
He's a great dude and althoughwe diss him publicly, I adore the
guy.

(01:47:19):
I think he's great.
But, you know, we got to keepthe feud up, the fake feud that we
have going.
So I hate your guts, but Ilove you at the same time.
And then final person on thelist, we got Tony Gray.
Number one fan of both shows.
He's fantastic.
I've got to know him over,over the, you know, last couple of

(01:47:40):
years, I guess, and he's a manafter my own heart.
Avid comic book collector,avid mute music collector.
He's got music in multiple formats.
He'd never get rid of his CDsor cassettes or vinyl, I think.
And his comic book collectioneclipses mine.

(01:48:02):
He's the, the one guy Ireally, really, really want to have
a beer with.
I'm so glad that I met himthrough, you know, through all these
podcasts and stuff and, and I,I honestly thank him so much for
his patronage, but also forhis friendship.
He is a great guy.
Sweet.
I think that's everybody.

(01:48:22):
That's everybody.
But that's everybody.
So we keep the lights onbecause you guys help us keep the
lights on.
All right, Todd, sign us out.
Alrighty.
Well, if you want to find us,we're@ Sean McGinnity.ca that's S
E A N M, C, G I N I,.
T y.ca ribbed for your pleasure.

(01:48:47):
I don't know why, it justsounds like a Trojan had.
Anyway, thanks, everybody.
We'll see you all the flip side.
Thank you for listening, andwe'll see you next week, and bye.
Have a good day.

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