May 27, 2025 • 24 mins
Ever wondered how something as simple as a hula hoop could transform your dog's confidence? This game-changing episode reveals the science and magic behind "confidence hoops" training.
Lauren and Jamie unpack why this accessible training method works for dogs of all ages and personality types - from nervous rescues to boisterous puppies, senior dogs with mobility issues to high-drive sport prospects. You'll discover how giving dogs control over movement and noise helps them develop profound confidence that transfers to real-world challenges.
The beauty of confidence hoops lies in their simplicity. Starting with inexpensive supermarket hula hoops (just £1-2), you can create engaging games that build mental resilience, physical coordination, and emotional stability. Learn about crowd favorites like "hoop dive" where dogs push through hoops themselves, creating a sense of agency that anxious dogs often lack in triggering situations.
What sets this training approach apart is how it allows dogs to lead their own learning journey. When dogs partner with you to solve problems rather than simply following commands, they develop flexible thinking and adaptability. This dynamic shift creates confident companions who approach new challenges with enthusiasm rather than apprehension.
Whether you're struggling with a reactive dog, want to build your puppy's environmental confidence, or simply need to add some no-pressure fun to your training routine, confidence hoops offers accessible entry points for every human-dog team. The portable nature of hoops means you can practice anywhere, helping dogs generalize their skills across different environments.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to the Absolute Dog Sex in a Squirrel
podcast.
I'm Lauren Langman.
I'm one of the world's leadingdog trainers and it's my mission
to help owners become theirdog's top priority.
In each episode, you'lldiscover how to gain trust and
communicate with your dog likenever before, creating
unbreakable bonds that make youthe most exciting part of their
world.
Okay, so we're talkingconfidence hoops and I know,
(00:33):
jamie, this is a massive passionarea of yours and what we've
seen through teaching so manydifferent dogs confidence hoops,
from Eliza's little dog, katie,through to a young dog, through
to an older dog, through to adog who's a bit naughty but nice
, through a dog who's maybe alittle bit nervous, lacking
confidence in loads of differentareas.
Actually, hoops and hula hoopswe're talking have been really
(00:55):
game changer.
Tell us about it, like what isit?
Where did it come about?
How did it come about?
What is confidence hoops?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think I'm not sure where it came about, but
confidence hoops, I think I, um,I'm not sure where it came
about, um, but um, confidencehoops it is.
It's just.
I think maybe it was just aboutbuilding confidence.
Um and um, we had a couple ofgames where we'd use a hoop, so
we'd use different, um,different kind of objects and
stuff, and a hoop was one ofthem.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Um, I always used to laugh at Sam when she used to go
around with a hoop and tell herlike it's, like she's going to
circus type thing and she wasgoing to circus, right like
she's circus dog, circus tricks,but like Eliza, for example, I
know you've done loads of hoopswith Eliza and loads of hoops
with Katie and Katie'sconfidence has come on leaps and
bounds.
And why a hoop?
And what you do with the hoopand why does it work?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
so, so, originally a hoop.
And what do you do with thehoop and why does it work?
So, originally a hoop.
We used to just I used to.
Well, I just started off justgoing through the hoop, and then
you would kind of notice, withsome dogs it was easy, and with
some dogs they would be reallyaware of the hoop even if you
held the hoop up or if it waslying flat on the floor in front
of you.
That could be a novel item, itcould be something that they're
(02:04):
just like a little bitsuspicious of, um, so it was
just really interesting to seehow different dogs reacted to
the hoop, um, and so then withcertain dogs you couldn't even
play something like orientationgame through a hoop, because
they were a bit nervous of thehoop being upright or moving or
or whatever the scenario wouldbe.
So taking it back a step andbuilding up that confidence of
(02:27):
them playing orientation game,maybe just by the hoop, not even
through the hoop or anythinglike that, and a little bit of
pressure release or whatever, solike for some dogs it was that
awareness of that novel item, um, and yeah, so just kind of
achieving orientation gamethrough a hoop was quite a cool
little goal set and it was.
(02:48):
It was.
It was a nice thing for them todo and also it was a game that
you could take from differentinto different areas or into
different circumstances, so likeyou could take it.
So if you played it in the inyour lounge, then you could take
it outside and it would meanthe same thing and you might
(03:08):
have to go back a few steps thenwhen you go to new environments
.
But that hoop, if you putenough value in it, it means
like a good thing and we'regoing to play this game and
we're not going to be kind ofaware of our environment and you
can take that hoop and givethem confidence in lots of new
environments Easy, light, simplething to take about right now.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Tell us a little bit about your hoops, because you've
probably got about seven oreight different hoops, because I
know you've got a couple thatare a little bit noisy, but I
won't spoil it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Tell us a couple of the different hoops that you
work with yeah, so a variety ofhoops, um I I have got an even
um a massive one at home as well.
For bigger dogs you can getlike a special occasion dancing
with jamie.
That's hoop dancing I did havethat weighted hoop for other
purposes, but not that thathappens, I probably need to use
(03:56):
that hoop anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The hoop that is very large that would work with body
sort of games.
So you've got the large hoop.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So you've got a large hoop um, you've also got um
like just different sizes ofhoops um, and then I have got
some fancy um diy craft hoops aswell, and you have.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You've got something literally covered in tissue
paper, and you've got some thatare a little bit noisy and
you've got some that have gotlike ribbons and um bows coming
off them like it's real fun,like rattles in it, which is
really cool and that'sinteresting for some of the um,
like our favorite one is hoopdive isn't it we do?
oh, they and the dogs just lookamazing doing.
And I'm thinking about it likewhen people are sat here
(04:38):
thinking what, how do I getconfidence hoops?
Confidence hoops is a course.
It's out right now.
So it's out right now.
But the thing is you actuallyonly need maybe one or two hoops
to get started, and I love that.
You go to like one of thepopular supermarkets uh, in the
uk, maybe something like tesco'sor sainsbury's or other
supermarkets available asda,you're going to pick up a hoop
for like one to two pound, likethey are really, really cheap.
(04:58):
Yeah, so this is something youcan take about with you.
It's very, very versatile.
You can adapt it for dogs whomaybe are needing you to take it
slower or, and do it lower or,um, do it because they've got
maybe some level of mobilitystruggles.
You can still play a lot of thegames, just adapt them
appropriately.
But actually there's, there's ahoop for everyone, right?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
yes, definitely definitely a hoop for everyone
and you can then get creativewith them and make it um, you
know, your orientation game thenturns into a bit more more
confidence building by dangling.
And you don't dangle it so theycan't see through it.
Initially, you know, you justadd a few bits like I think I
had some toilet roll tubes, themiddle parts of them, and then
(05:37):
you string them together, sothey're just dangling first of
all, and then eventually it'slike you build up that trust
that they can kind of bashthrough it a little bit then now
thinking on some of the gamesthat we filmed doing um, the
confidence hoops badge which,like I said, it's released today
.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It's it's brand new, if you're listening.
Today is a brand new podcast.
It's released today.
It's on a special offer.
It's 77 pound instead of 197,so it's a really, really, really
good.
It's a pre-order, so go and getit while it's on pre-order.
If you're listening later, I'msorry, I'm sure there'll be a
badge sale at some point, or goand grab it anyway, because it's
a great badge to have.
But, thinking about some of thethings that we did on the day
when we were filming and puttingthe content and the learning
(06:16):
together, give a few of yourfavourite examples, some of the
things that your dogs, or mydogs, really, really love.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay, so Katie has just got a natural bounce.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
She just loves to jump, doesn't she leap?
She just loves to jump, sheleaps.
It's like it's ingrained in herto bounce.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And I've got to say Eliza's put loads of value into
the hoop, because Eliza quitelikes the bouncing too.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, and I think the hoop for If any of you are
training kids or younger peopleor people who like a little bit
of sort of variety and dynamicopportunity, I think the hoop
could be really good for that.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, really cool for , like, confidence building with
kids and just like, like mykids love, to just play around
with it as well.
You know, it's just, it's justa really cool thing to do and I
just think that they feel likethey're in the circus.
They do, they do.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in the circus.
High five, she's cool, shethinks she's in the circus and
she is with her hoop and herteam of dogs.
And so I think Zuma, forexample, one of his favourites.
I love to see him hoop dive.
He's got such cool stuff.
Now explain for those peoplewho haven't listened, because I
(07:26):
such cool.
Now explain for those peoplewho haven't listened, because I
think if I was going to thebadge, that would probably be
the first one I would love toteach if it was me and with a
new dog, and what I love is youcan actually work with puppies
on this.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
This is a really cool one for puppies, really really
cool one for puppies.
And um, and also this one.
It was really cool for one ofthe dogs I worked with for this
one.
Um, she was this kind of.
This is what's so nice abouttricks and stuff, isn't it?
But it filtered across toanother trick without me knowing
so.
Like a hoop dive is basicallythe hoop is flat on the floor,
(07:51):
the dog goes and pushes its noseunder the hoop and flips the
hoop over and they go throughthe hoop.
That makes does.
Can you explain?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
that.
So basically, um, yeah, the dogis in control of the movement,
yeah, and so what I really loveis the dog forces the hoop over
it and it kind of does it in aneloquent way, where some of them
are eloquent, some of them areless so, and typically spaniels
are not, um, but they.
I love that.
They control the movement andthe noise.
And I think, for dogs who aremaybe reactive, nervous, worried
(08:21):
, anxious and at times, um,aware of environments, when they
start to control the noise andhave an ability to make the
thing happen, I personally thinkyou're on to a winner with a
dog.
Yeah, because they're startingto partner with you a little bit
more, and when they'repartnering with you and
understanding how their body andtheir movements and their
adjustments have a way offorcing it to happen, almost,
(08:43):
yeah, like they have control,yeah, so you're kind of giving a
bit of the control.
I'll give you an example I wasin.
There's a farm shop close to us.
It's called Mole Valley, moleAvon.
I never know what it's calledOne of them, one of those two
Mole Avon, mole Valley,something like that.
And so there's a close to usand when I was in there earlier
with Liza, liza was pickingsomething up and I said to her
(09:03):
you can have that, you just needto pay for it.
And she went uh, no, I'm notgoing to pay for that.
Actually, I think that we'llleave that and it's the way that
they've now got control over it.
Now, obviously, if you're doingeverything for them, then it's
very, very easy.
But suddenly, when you givethem a bit of a say in the
matter, the dynamic changes and.
I think when something islacking confidence, a dog is
(09:24):
lacking confidence.
I think one of the best ways tobuild confidence in them is to
give them a say in how it goes.
And I remember with one of myum, nervous, uh dogs, tiki, um,
15-20 years ago now.
One of the things that reallychanged the game for her is when
she started shutting doors andslamming cupboards.
And I mean you can imagine thislike this is a dog as well, not
a human bang bang, bang, andshe'd be slamming the doors.
And I mean you can imagine thislike this is a dog as well, not
a human Bang bang, bang, andshe'd be slamming the doors and
(09:45):
like locking the cupboards andall those things.
But I think she really enjoyedit because she was in control of
it.
So she started to really pushthe noise and then all the
noises started to get better andbetter because she was in
control of the noises.
And I think that's how the hoopdive works for me the dog
controls the movement.
Because for a dog who doesn'tlike being, I'm thinking like an
obedience dog.
I'm thinking actually, lovely,linda, when linda's down, let's
(10:06):
work on this with her.
Yeah, because for a dog likethis they don't always like
themselves being touched.
They kind of you can see themgoing oh, let's touch my back,
yeah, and I can see that evenwith skittle, she doesn't always
like something touching her,like when you first put a
harness on, and they sort oflike yeah, you might walk some
dogs and they're completelynormal happy labrador.
And you walk other dogs andthey're like oh, this is like on
my body and those types of dogs.
(10:28):
So I really like the hoop gamefor that and the hoop game is
just one of like.
I think they're like 25, 30, 35there were loads of games, a
lot of things you can do therewere a lot of games got anything
else that they can we're gonnaadd it, please, please, let us
know.
She's so video.
Look how keen she is.
The circus lady is keen, butyeah, I think.
For me, the hoop dive is one ofmy favourites.
What would be another one ofyour favourites?
I love that one.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So the one that I worked hard on was getting Katie
to jump on me have body contact.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I knew you were going to say that as well.
I knew you were going to saythat as well.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I knew you were going to say that one, but it was
hard for me to get to grips withit.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But that's what's really good and actually the
mechanics were hard.
I think that's what made ithard.
When I was watching, you said,do you want to do this or I'll
do this, and I was like I'm notgoing to, and there's safety to
it as well, because you don'twant to mean it is.
It's a real.
It's a real and, like you said,the hoop dive suitable for any
(11:24):
dog the game that jamie'stalking about not suitable for
every dog and I think that'swhat I really like.
There's a real variety, there'sa there's a level of up and a
level of down and you can kindof pitch in or take out wherever
you feel most appropriate.
So actually it can, it can goin at any level.
Yeah, and I'm gonna say anotherone of my favourites is when
the hoops are moving.
So you're moving the hoops andthe dog's got to go find the gap
(11:45):
in the hoop.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And again.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I really like that.
It leaves the dog leading thelearning.
I think when you get your dogleading the learning, I also
think it doesn't matter what jobyou're doing, whether you're
doing agility, obedience, petdog, guide dog, assistance dog.
Maybe you've got a level ofcompetitive sport, fly ball dog
Like.
I think this builds all dogs.
I think it builds, I think itbuilds mental resilience.
(12:08):
I think it builds physicalability.
I think it builds sometoughness in their trainability
and flexibility.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Massive flexibility, because there's a lot of dogs
out there that see, see onething, and this is what we do
with that one thing, whereas wewere asking them to paw wrap, we
were asking them to, you know,do a lot of different things,
jump through, put your paws on,like just the variety of
different things that you'reasking them to do with that,
because with some dogs that theyfind that really really
(12:38):
difficult, don't they?
To be able to do bothdirections with everything.
Oh, another one of my favoritesis the weaves.
So instead of leg weaves, yeah,you weave and that takes a
little bit of you know, theyneed, like you say, they need
more of that independence,whereas with leg weaves you can
kind of show them a bit more,yeah, but that they had to be
independent on their cue to turnand stuff.
(13:00):
So, yeah, that was a reallycool one to do.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
What's, I suppose, for you, one of the most
rewarding moments you've had inteaching hoops.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think that one actually, and Eliza helping me
to do it as well, because, like,we did that together, so that
was quite a cool one.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And then they loved you know they both, you could
see them both light up doing itas well, so yeah, Is it too late
to teach an old dog new tricks,Like is there anything that
could be adaptable for an olderdog?
Looking at something like thisand I know the answer and you've
just said the answer, but helpus out what could that look like
(13:40):
or how could that be?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
So one of my staff is 11.
She's had a TPLO operation, soshe tore her cruciate a couple
of years ago, and she's also gotelbow dysplasia.
But she was on the video andshe was doing a carry the.
She's so happy and she actuallylikes doing the weaving um
figure of around it because Ithink that that's all really
good for her flexibility andmobility and keeping her strong
(14:03):
and flexible while she's whileshe's getting older and I don't
think you think she's 11 no, shedoesn't.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I literally said 11 then and you said 11, I was like
I would not know it.
How old are they both?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Molly's 11 and Stitchy is seven.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
God, I would never put Molly at 11.
No, you wouldn't, I reallywouldn't.
I really wouldn't.
I'd say they both look similarage, yeah, other than the little
bit of grey, but you cansometimes just think that's
flecking.
Yeah, so no, she looks amazing.
So you can teach an old dog newtricks.
And then how about a puppy or ayounger dog or an adolescent
dog?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
is it appropriate for younger days like with the
puppies doing um the hoop diveis one of my favorite things to
do with them because I thinkthat just builds their
confidence oh, hugely, andmassive resilience and just
going through it likeorientation game as well.
And again then, that's a,that's something, it's a
portable one that you can takeout around to different
environments, so they're focusedon it and they see, oh, I see
(14:56):
Hoopan.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I also think you end up with a dog who's very, very
flexible, versatile, like thinky, like I quite like a dog who
has a level of um, that sort ofcognitive ability where they're
trying to do something for you,like Katie's, always trying to
work out what she could do tohelp you, yeah, whereas um
working with Nell, who um cameto me as a um later on in life
as a sheepdog, it's differentbecause she doesn't have that
(15:19):
ability to try so much yet it'snot like always there to go.
They're not as operant, no,she's not as operant, she's not
going to offer you as manythings.
And so, for me, where I like itfor a puppy is that you start
to teach them how to be operantin a really unimportant way.
Yeah, like it's not like ifthey don't make it on the hoop,
it's not like they can't be anice dog, and if they don't make
(15:40):
it with the hoop, it's not likethey can't and go out and be a
great um, whatever, they'regoing to be a jealousy dog, but
actually you've had a go atteaching the hoop, yeah, so I
really like it for that reasonand it's cool for those
mechanics as well, becauseyou're teaching something that's
fun and lighthearted.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And if you were going to go into sports or anything
like that, where it kind of getsa little bit more serious not
that it should- be very serious.
It's all amazing, but yeah,it's just coming detaching
yourself a little bit from that,isn't it?
And it builds your mechanicsand builds the dog's skills and
it's just, I don't know you.
Just if you don't feel liketraining that day and you see
(16:16):
the hoop in the corner, it'salways like going hello yeah,
you could easily just pick it upvery quick, like exactly
because some days there are dayswhere you just think, oh no, I
should be doing this or I shouldbe doing that, and it's just
like.
Actually I would like to do that, I would like to go and play
with the hoop yeah, and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, right, it's great to have some no pressure
fun in your um repertoire or inyour toolbox.
And I'm really thinking forLinda.
I think this would be very,very good and it'd be very, very
good.
And I don't know how much she'sdone, but I'd really like to
push her on on this because Ithink this would be really nice.
I haven't either, and I thinkshe would suit a hoop.
I think we should glam her one.
(16:53):
I think we should glam her onebecause that lady is glam.
Literally, it's bling it, readyfor her.
Look, she's turquoise.
We have to look for a turquoisebling hoop.
Um, it's gonna work.
And I suppose another one forme.
What would be like a real basichoop game?
What would be the like thestarting point for someone who's
out there listening andthinking?
I just want to make a start.
Remember, obviously for some ofyou that'll be grabbing the
(17:14):
badge.
So go and grab the hoop badge.
It's on the Absolute Dogs store.
So, literally, head over to thestore absolute-dogscom, go and
have a look.
It's over there, it's on thestore, it's a sale.
It's always a really cool timeto grab it.
Equally, someone who thing andjust thinking they'd like to
have a go at this.
They don't necessarily have thecapacity to grab hold of a
badge right now, or they don'thave the finances to be able to.
Um, it's a real bargain, though, right now, so do go and look
(17:36):
at it, but if you don't have it,you don't have it.
What could they do?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
so I'm sure all of you have heard of boundary games
.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
They could start playing boundary games and just
I was gonna nod like, yeah, I'veheard of it once or twice okay,
so boundary game, building upthe value in in the middle of
that hoop and just seeing ifthey all suction back to where
that value is and seeing if theycan start doing a few behaviors
, maybe within the boundary toboundary using the tape across
the hoop with the hoop on thefloor if your dog's happy with
(18:02):
it and actually sometimes it isjust keeping that hoop on the
floor, seeing if they're happywith it, and then it might be
boundary to boundary, it mightbe move it a little, it might be
shake it a little, it might bea noisy one, it might be tassels
on it, but actually you'reright early on, it's just get
them used to.
Can they even walk over the hoop?
Because actually walking overthe hoop for some of the dogs is
enough to go.
I don't like it, particularlyif you work with a nervous dog.
What have you seen from naughtybut nice dogs in terms of where
(18:25):
they started and where theyfinished?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
so like when you, when you pick up the, if you're
anything like me and you want tojust get on with the game that
you have in your brain, and it'sa little bit like, oh, they
don't even want to come nearthis blinking thing.
So it's a little bitdisheartening.
But if you know the steps tokind of break it down, then it
(18:47):
becomes so rewarding thatthey're actually suctioning back
to this.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I think it's good to tell everyone at the beginning,
for some dogs, how aware arethey of things like a hoop,
massively aware.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You wouldn't think that something so thin and
narrow and just… Inadversant,like nothing big in the
environment, something like pawson something or like I don't
know, but there's just somethingabout it.
I think it could move it couldmove, and it's unusual.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Have you ever seen that?
Cats vs Cucumbers?
Yes, it's like a Cat vsCucumber, isn't it?
They're like.
Why is this thing on the floor?
Why is this thing?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
sat here Weird.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It is weird.
So I think, walking through,what is the circus lady up to?
So I think, yeah, moving it andand starting to build it as
soon as they're ready, but notrushing to do that.
And then what have you seenthem take it to like, what is
what's that?
Gone from zero right through towhat, what have you?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
had just like gritty and just wanting to, wanting to
dive under it, or um, justwanting wanting.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
One of my favorites is where, um, we had stitch
going through the like paper,like she pushes the paper, and I
know we were at badmintonrecently.
Matt and I and liza and herfriend and matt said where's the
like ring of fire?
I was like no, no, matt, reallyanimals don't do that, like
they don't do that.
But actually not there, not abadminton, do they?
Yeah, at badminton, not atbadminton no, no, I was like.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
No, I think I was like I.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, I think you see the theories of interest, matt.
I was like I don't think theyput them through rings of fire.
I have again agree, olympianHorse of the Year, but not at
Badminton.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
There was a couple that used to have a cart and the
lady.
I can't remember what she wascalled, but Ring of Fire or
something like that like alittle bit emma matty.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
they're like doing different things, like literally
they used to go up a ramp.
Wow, through the fiery.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I mean amazing, it's incredible I do have to say that
I did google.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Fiery hooped when we said oh, god, literally you were
like I'm gonna have to thinkabout doing this any way that we
could put no long head dog wentthrough this.
Jamie is looking, she's looking, she has a staffy that has very
little fur and it would, might,it might work, and not a long
tail.
Can you imagine classic, okaygoes and not Gus, not Gus, not
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Katie, um, or the Katie on amalt, maybe, um and so.
So, if we think about it, um,when I was saying to Matt no,
matt, there's no horses atbadminton he was really wanting
the like, the confidence of thering of fire, but the ring of
fire similar to the ring oftissue paper where they sort of
fly through it.
It's asking massive, exactly.
It's asking massive confidence,yeah, because to trust you and
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run into, effectively, a brickwall yeah, is what you're asking
?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
go through the brick wall yeah, it's hard and it's,
but it's really.
But if we break it down enoughand make sure that we break it
down, then I think it's a reallycool thing to be able to do
Absolutely massive, like reallyreally really massive and
brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So, jamie, if anyone sat on the fence and thinking
should I get hold of this badge?
It's uncomfortable.
It's uncomfortable sitting onthe fence you could be jumping
over the fence through a hoopWith fire, with fire, jamie, I
actually am really hystericalabout the idea that you wanted a
fiery hoop and you Googled it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
If you look at my, she actually Googled it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So she's actually Googled it.
Maybe a thing in the future.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
If you're thinking about it, if you're sitting
there and thinking maybe thiswould suit my puppy, my
adolescent my, my senior dog, mygeriatric dog.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yes, yes, yes and yes , there's something for everyone
.
There is, yeah, something foreveryone, definitely, definitely
.
And even the children have hadfun with it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, equally, I think, grandparents, um and um,
sister, mother, father, brother,I think they'd all enjoy it
really cool as well is like ifyou've got um, if you're um
limited to what you can like, ifyou're in a wheelchair, for
example, or anything like thatI've used it with clients that
have had that disability andthey just have so much joy.
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Or if you've got a grandparentthat's sitting in a chair that
can't move much, then having thehoop is just such a rewarding
thing to play with.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
It's lovely, it's really really lovely.
So if you're sat on the fence,guys go and grab it.
It's over on the store and,equally, either way, people can
start right now having fun,can't they?
Basic games get yourself a hoop, go get yourself a hoop.
Like at very minimum, getyourself a hoop.
And I think the thing that, um,to sum up and to finish on, is
the fact that we're concepttrainers.
We train through a concept, andthe concept in in here that
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we're building is confidence,and we're building confidence
through using a very, verysimple, easy, fun tool.
It's a hoop.
It's done in such a positiveway, it's done in such a fun way
, it's lighthearted.
It's amazing.
You guys need to go and grabyourselves a hoop and the
confidence badge, if you can.
Confidence Hoops is the name.
The game is many, manydifferent opportunities.
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I can't remember the number.
There were a lot, I think.
I think more than we everanticipated.
We were like writing them out.
It's just like just one more.
So, guys, go grab yourself yourcopy.
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Okay, so we're talkingconfidence hoops and I know,
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jamie, this is a massive passionarea of yours and what we've
seen through teaching so manydifferent dogs confidence hoops,
from Eliza's little dog, katie,through to a young dog, through
to an older dog, through to adog who's a bit naughty but nice
, through a dog who's maybe alittle bit nervous, lacking
confidence in loads of differentareas.
Actually, hoops and hula hoopswe're talking have been really
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game changer.
Tell us about it, like what isit?
Where did it come about?
How did it come about?
What is confidence hoops?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think I'm not sure where it came about, but
confidence hoops, I think I, um,I'm not sure where it came
about, um, but um, confidencehoops it is.
It's just.
I think maybe it was just aboutbuilding confidence.
Um and um, we had a couple ofgames where we'd use a hoop, so
we'd use different, um,different kind of objects and
stuff, and a hoop was one ofthem.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Um, I always used to laugh at Sam when she used to go
around with a hoop and tell herlike it's, like she's going to
circus type thing and she wasgoing to circus, right like
she's circus dog, circus tricks,but like Eliza, for example, I
know you've done loads of hoopswith Eliza and loads of hoops
with Katie and Katie'sconfidence has come on leaps and
bounds.
And why a hoop?
And what you do with the hoopand why does it work?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
so, so, originally a hoop.
And what do you do with thehoop and why does it work?
So, originally a hoop.
We used to just I used to.
Well, I just started off justgoing through the hoop, and then
you would kind of notice, withsome dogs it was easy, and with
some dogs they would be reallyaware of the hoop even if you
held the hoop up or if it waslying flat on the floor in front
of you.
That could be a novel item, itcould be something that they're
(02:04):
just like a little bitsuspicious of, um, so it was
just really interesting to seehow different dogs reacted to
the hoop, um, and so then withcertain dogs you couldn't even
play something like orientationgame through a hoop, because
they were a bit nervous of thehoop being upright or moving or
or whatever the scenario wouldbe.
So taking it back a step andbuilding up that confidence of
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them playing orientation game,maybe just by the hoop, not even
through the hoop or anythinglike that, and a little bit of
pressure release or whatever, solike for some dogs it was that
awareness of that novel item, um, and yeah, so just kind of
achieving orientation gamethrough a hoop was quite a cool
little goal set and it was.
(02:48):
It was.
It was a nice thing for them todo and also it was a game that
you could take from differentinto different areas or into
different circumstances, so likeyou could take it.
So if you played it in the inyour lounge, then you could take
it outside and it would meanthe same thing and you might
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have to go back a few steps thenwhen you go to new environments
.
But that hoop, if you putenough value in it, it means
like a good thing and we'regoing to play this game and
we're not going to be kind ofaware of our environment and you
can take that hoop and givethem confidence in lots of new
environments Easy, light, simplething to take about right now.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Tell us a little bit about your hoops, because you've
probably got about seven oreight different hoops, because I
know you've got a couple thatare a little bit noisy, but I
won't spoil it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Tell us a couple of the different hoops that you
work with yeah, so a variety ofhoops, um I I have got an even
um a massive one at home as well.
For bigger dogs you can getlike a special occasion dancing
with jamie.
That's hoop dancing I did havethat weighted hoop for other
purposes, but not that thathappens, I probably need to use
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that hoop anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The hoop that is very large that would work with body
sort of games.
So you've got the large hoop.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So you've got a large hoop um, you've also got um
like just different sizes ofhoops um, and then I have got
some fancy um diy craft hoops aswell, and you have.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You've got something literally covered in tissue
paper, and you've got some thatare a little bit noisy and
you've got some that have gotlike ribbons and um bows coming
off them like it's real fun,like rattles in it, which is
really cool and that'sinteresting for some of the um,
like our favorite one is hoopdive isn't it we do?
oh, they and the dogs just lookamazing doing.
And I'm thinking about it likewhen people are sat here
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thinking what, how do I getconfidence hoops?
Confidence hoops is a course.
It's out right now.
So it's out right now.
But the thing is you actuallyonly need maybe one or two hoops
to get started, and I love that.
You go to like one of thepopular supermarkets uh, in the
uk, maybe something like tesco'sor sainsbury's or other
supermarkets available asda,you're going to pick up a hoop
for like one to two pound, likethey are really, really cheap.
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Yeah, so this is something youcan take about with you.
It's very, very versatile.
You can adapt it for dogs whomaybe are needing you to take it
slower or, and do it lower or,um, do it because they've got
maybe some level of mobilitystruggles.
You can still play a lot of thegames, just adapt them
appropriately.
But actually there's, there's ahoop for everyone, right?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
yes, definitely definitely a hoop for everyone
and you can then get creativewith them and make it um, you
know, your orientation game thenturns into a bit more more
confidence building by dangling.
And you don't dangle it so theycan't see through it.
Initially, you know, you justadd a few bits like I think I
had some toilet roll tubes, themiddle parts of them, and then
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you string them together, sothey're just dangling first of
all, and then eventually it'slike you build up that trust
that they can kind of bashthrough it a little bit then now
thinking on some of the gamesthat we filmed doing um, the
confidence hoops badge which,like I said, it's released today
.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It's it's brand new, if you're listening.
Today is a brand new podcast.
It's released today.
It's on a special offer.
It's 77 pound instead of 197,so it's a really, really, really
good.
It's a pre-order, so go and getit while it's on pre-order.
If you're listening later, I'msorry, I'm sure there'll be a
badge sale at some point, or goand grab it anyway, because it's
a great badge to have.
But, thinking about some of thethings that we did on the day
when we were filming and puttingthe content and the learning
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together, give a few of yourfavourite examples, some of the
things that your dogs, or mydogs, really, really love.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay, so Katie has just got a natural bounce.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
She just loves to jump, doesn't she leap?
She just loves to jump, sheleaps.
It's like it's ingrained in herto bounce.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And I've got to say Eliza's put loads of value into
the hoop, because Eliza quitelikes the bouncing too.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, and I think the hoop for If any of you are
training kids or younger peopleor people who like a little bit
of sort of variety and dynamicopportunity, I think the hoop
could be really good for that.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, really cool for , like, confidence building with
kids and just like, like mykids love, to just play around
with it as well.
You know, it's just, it's justa really cool thing to do and I
just think that they feel likethey're in the circus.
They do, they do.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in the circus.
High five, she's cool, shethinks she's in the circus and
she is with her hoop and herteam of dogs.
And so I think Zuma, forexample, one of his favourites.
I love to see him hoop dive.
He's got such cool stuff.
Now explain for those peoplewho haven't listened, because I
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such cool.
Now explain for those peoplewho haven't listened, because I
think if I was going to thebadge, that would probably be
the first one I would love toteach if it was me and with a
new dog, and what I love is youcan actually work with puppies
on this.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
This is a really cool one for puppies, really really
cool one for puppies.
And um, and also this one.
It was really cool for one ofthe dogs I worked with for this
one.
Um, she was this kind of.
This is what's so nice abouttricks and stuff, isn't it?
But it filtered across toanother trick without me knowing
so.
Like a hoop dive is basicallythe hoop is flat on the floor,
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the dog goes and pushes its noseunder the hoop and flips the
hoop over and they go throughthe hoop.
That makes does.
Can you explain?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
that.
So basically, um, yeah, the dogis in control of the movement,
yeah, and so what I really loveis the dog forces the hoop over
it and it kind of does it in aneloquent way, where some of them
are eloquent, some of them areless so, and typically spaniels
are not, um, but they.
I love that.
They control the movement andthe noise.
And I think, for dogs who aremaybe reactive, nervous, worried
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, anxious and at times, um,aware of environments, when they
start to control the noise andhave an ability to make the
thing happen, I personally thinkyou're on to a winner with a
dog.
Yeah, because they're startingto partner with you a little bit
more, and when they'repartnering with you and
understanding how their body andtheir movements and their
adjustments have a way offorcing it to happen, almost,
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yeah, like they have control,yeah, so you're kind of giving a
bit of the control.
I'll give you an example I wasin.
There's a farm shop close to us.
It's called Mole Valley, moleAvon.
I never know what it's calledOne of them, one of those two
Mole Avon, mole Valley,something like that.
And so there's a close to usand when I was in there earlier
with Liza, liza was pickingsomething up and I said to her
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you can have that, you just needto pay for it.
And she went uh, no, I'm notgoing to pay for that.
Actually, I think that we'llleave that and it's the way that
they've now got control over it.
Now, obviously, if you're doingeverything for them, then it's
very, very easy.
But suddenly, when you givethem a bit of a say in the
matter, the dynamic changes and.
I think when something islacking confidence, a dog is
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lacking confidence.
I think one of the best ways tobuild confidence in them is to
give them a say in how it goes.
And I remember with one of myum, nervous, uh dogs, tiki, um,
15-20 years ago now.
One of the things that reallychanged the game for her is when
she started shutting doors andslamming cupboards.
And I mean you can imagine thislike this is a dog as well, not
a human bang bang, bang, andshe'd be slamming the doors.
And I mean you can imagine thislike this is a dog as well, not
a human Bang bang, bang, andshe'd be slamming the doors and
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like locking the cupboards andall those things.
But I think she really enjoyedit because she was in control of
it.
So she started to really pushthe noise and then all the
noises started to get better andbetter because she was in
control of the noises.
And I think that's how the hoopdive works for me the dog
controls the movement.
Because for a dog who doesn'tlike being, I'm thinking like an
obedience dog.
I'm thinking actually, lovely,linda, when linda's down, let's
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work on this with her.
Yeah, because for a dog likethis they don't always like
themselves being touched.
They kind of you can see themgoing oh, let's touch my back,
yeah, and I can see that evenwith skittle, she doesn't always
like something touching her,like when you first put a
harness on, and they sort oflike yeah, you might walk some
dogs and they're completelynormal happy labrador.
And you walk other dogs andthey're like oh, this is like on
my body and those types of dogs.
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So I really like the hoop gamefor that and the hoop game is
just one of like.
I think they're like 25, 30, 35there were loads of games, a
lot of things you can do therewere a lot of games got anything
else that they can we're gonnaadd it, please, please, let us
know.
She's so video.
Look how keen she is.
The circus lady is keen, butyeah, I think.
For me, the hoop dive is one ofmy favourites.
What would be another one ofyour favourites?
I love that one.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So the one that I worked hard on was getting Katie
to jump on me have body contact.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I knew you were going to say that as well.
I knew you were going to saythat as well.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I knew you were going to say that one, but it was
hard for me to get to grips withit.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But that's what's really good and actually the
mechanics were hard.
I think that's what made ithard.
When I was watching, you said,do you want to do this or I'll
do this, and I was like I'm notgoing to, and there's safety to
it as well, because you don'twant to mean it is.
It's a real.
It's a real and, like you said,the hoop dive suitable for any
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dog the game that jamie'stalking about not suitable for
every dog and I think that'swhat I really like.
There's a real variety, there'sa there's a level of up and a
level of down and you can kindof pitch in or take out wherever
you feel most appropriate.
So actually it can, it can goin at any level.
Yeah, and I'm gonna say anotherone of my favourites is when
the hoops are moving.
So you're moving the hoops andthe dog's got to go find the gap
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in the hoop.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And again.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I really like that.
It leaves the dog leading thelearning.
I think when you get your dogleading the learning, I also
think it doesn't matter what jobyou're doing, whether you're
doing agility, obedience, petdog, guide dog, assistance dog.
Maybe you've got a level ofcompetitive sport, fly ball dog
Like.
I think this builds all dogs.
I think it builds, I think itbuilds mental resilience.
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I think it builds physicalability.
I think it builds sometoughness in their trainability
and flexibility.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Massive flexibility, because there's a lot of dogs
out there that see, see onething, and this is what we do
with that one thing, whereas wewere asking them to paw wrap, we
were asking them to, you know,do a lot of different things,
jump through, put your paws on,like just the variety of
different things that you'reasking them to do with that,
because with some dogs that theyfind that really really
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difficult, don't they?
To be able to do bothdirections with everything.
Oh, another one of my favoritesis the weaves.
So instead of leg weaves, yeah,you weave and that takes a
little bit of you know, theyneed, like you say, they need
more of that independence,whereas with leg weaves you can
kind of show them a bit more,yeah, but that they had to be
independent on their cue to turnand stuff.
(13:00):
So, yeah, that was a reallycool one to do.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
What's, I suppose, for you, one of the most
rewarding moments you've had inteaching hoops.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think that one actually, and Eliza helping me
to do it as well, because, like,we did that together, so that
was quite a cool one.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And then they loved you know they both, you could
see them both light up doing itas well, so yeah, Is it too late
to teach an old dog new tricks,Like is there anything that
could be adaptable for an olderdog?
Looking at something like thisand I know the answer and you've
just said the answer, but helpus out what could that look like
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or how could that be?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
So one of my staff is 11.
She's had a TPLO operation, soshe tore her cruciate a couple
of years ago, and she's also gotelbow dysplasia.
But she was on the video andshe was doing a carry the.
She's so happy and she actuallylikes doing the weaving um
figure of around it because Ithink that that's all really
good for her flexibility andmobility and keeping her strong
(14:03):
and flexible while she's whileshe's getting older and I don't
think you think she's 11 no, shedoesn't.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I literally said 11 then and you said 11, I was like
I would not know it.
How old are they both?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Molly's 11 and Stitchy is seven.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
God, I would never put Molly at 11.
No, you wouldn't, I reallywouldn't.
I really wouldn't.
I'd say they both look similarage, yeah, other than the little
bit of grey, but you cansometimes just think that's
flecking.
Yeah, so no, she looks amazing.
So you can teach an old dog newtricks.
And then how about a puppy or ayounger dog or an adolescent
dog?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
is it appropriate for younger days like with the
puppies doing um the hoop diveis one of my favorite things to
do with them because I thinkthat just builds their
confidence oh, hugely, andmassive resilience and just
going through it likeorientation game as well.
And again then, that's a,that's something, it's a
portable one that you can takeout around to different
environments, so they're focusedon it and they see, oh, I see
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Hoopan.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I also think you end up with a dog who's very, very
flexible, versatile, like thinky, like I quite like a dog who
has a level of um, that sort ofcognitive ability where they're
trying to do something for you,like Katie's, always trying to
work out what she could do tohelp you, yeah, whereas um
working with Nell, who um cameto me as a um later on in life
as a sheepdog, it's differentbecause she doesn't have that
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ability to try so much yet it'snot like always there to go.
They're not as operant, no,she's not as operant, she's not
going to offer you as manythings.
And so, for me, where I like itfor a puppy is that you start
to teach them how to be operantin a really unimportant way.
Yeah, like it's not like ifthey don't make it on the hoop,
it's not like they can't be anice dog, and if they don't make
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it with the hoop, it's not likethey can't and go out and be a
great um, whatever, they'regoing to be a jealousy dog, but
actually you've had a go atteaching the hoop, yeah, so I
really like it for that reasonand it's cool for those
mechanics as well, becauseyou're teaching something that's
fun and lighthearted.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And if you were going to go into sports or anything
like that, where it kind of getsa little bit more serious not
that it should- be very serious.
It's all amazing, but yeah,it's just coming detaching
yourself a little bit from that,isn't it?
And it builds your mechanicsand builds the dog's skills and
it's just, I don't know you.
Just if you don't feel liketraining that day and you see
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the hoop in the corner, it'salways like going hello yeah,
you could easily just pick it upvery quick, like exactly
because some days there are dayswhere you just think, oh no, I
should be doing this or I shouldbe doing that, and it's just
like.
Actually I would like to do that, I would like to go and play
with the hoop yeah, and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, right, it's great to have some no pressure
fun in your um repertoire or inyour toolbox.
And I'm really thinking forLinda.
I think this would be very,very good and it'd be very, very
good.
And I don't know how much she'sdone, but I'd really like to
push her on on this because Ithink this would be really nice.
I haven't either, and I thinkshe would suit a hoop.
I think we should glam her one.
(16:53):
I think we should glam her onebecause that lady is glam.
Literally, it's bling it, readyfor her.
Look, she's turquoise.
We have to look for a turquoisebling hoop.
Um, it's gonna work.
And I suppose another one forme.
What would be like a real basichoop game?
What would be the like thestarting point for someone who's
out there listening andthinking?
I just want to make a start.
Remember, obviously for some ofyou that'll be grabbing the
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badge.
So go and grab the hoop badge.
It's on the Absolute Dogs store.
So, literally, head over to thestore absolute-dogscom, go and
have a look.
It's over there, it's on thestore, it's a sale.
It's always a really cool timeto grab it.
Equally, someone who thing andjust thinking they'd like to
have a go at this.
They don't necessarily have thecapacity to grab hold of a
badge right now, or they don'thave the finances to be able to.
Um, it's a real bargain, though, right now, so do go and look
(17:36):
at it, but if you don't have it,you don't have it.
What could they do?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
so I'm sure all of you have heard of boundary games
.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
They could start playing boundary games and just
I was gonna nod like, yeah, I'veheard of it once or twice okay,
so boundary game, building upthe value in in the middle of
that hoop and just seeing ifthey all suction back to where
that value is and seeing if theycan start doing a few behaviors
, maybe within the boundary toboundary using the tape across
the hoop with the hoop on thefloor if your dog's happy with
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it and actually sometimes it isjust keeping that hoop on the
floor, seeing if they're happywith it, and then it might be
boundary to boundary, it mightbe move it a little, it might be
shake it a little, it might bea noisy one, it might be tassels
on it, but actually you'reright early on, it's just get
them used to.
Can they even walk over the hoop?
Because actually walking overthe hoop for some of the dogs is
enough to go.
I don't like it, particularlyif you work with a nervous dog.
What have you seen from naughtybut nice dogs in terms of where
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they started and where theyfinished?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
so like when you, when you pick up the, if you're
anything like me and you want tojust get on with the game that
you have in your brain, and it'sa little bit like, oh, they
don't even want to come nearthis blinking thing.
So it's a little bitdisheartening.
But if you know the steps tokind of break it down, then it
(18:47):
becomes so rewarding thatthey're actually suctioning back
to this.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I think it's good to tell everyone at the beginning,
for some dogs, how aware arethey of things like a hoop,
massively aware.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You wouldn't think that something so thin and
narrow and just… Inadversant,like nothing big in the
environment, something like pawson something or like I don't
know, but there's just somethingabout it.
I think it could move it couldmove, and it's unusual.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Have you ever seen that?
Cats vs Cucumbers?
Yes, it's like a Cat vsCucumber, isn't it?
They're like.
Why is this thing on the floor?
Why is this thing?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
sat here Weird.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It is weird.
So I think, walking through,what is the circus lady up to?
So I think, yeah, moving it andand starting to build it as
soon as they're ready, but notrushing to do that.
And then what have you seenthem take it to like, what is
what's that?
Gone from zero right through towhat, what have you?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
had just like gritty and just wanting to, wanting to
dive under it, or um, justwanting wanting.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
One of my favorites is where, um, we had stitch
going through the like paper,like she pushes the paper, and I
know we were at badmintonrecently.
Matt and I and liza and herfriend and matt said where's the
like ring of fire?
I was like no, no, matt, reallyanimals don't do that, like
they don't do that.
But actually not there, not abadminton, do they?
Yeah, at badminton, not atbadminton no, no, I was like.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
No, I think I was like I.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, I think you see the theories of interest, matt.
I was like I don't think theyput them through rings of fire.
I have again agree, olympianHorse of the Year, but not at
Badminton.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
There was a couple that used to have a cart and the
lady.
I can't remember what she wascalled, but Ring of Fire or
something like that like alittle bit emma matty.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
they're like doing different things, like literally
they used to go up a ramp.
Wow, through the fiery.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I mean amazing, it's incredible I do have to say that
I did google.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Fiery hooped when we said oh, god, literally you were
like I'm gonna have to thinkabout doing this any way that we
could put no long head dog wentthrough this.
Jamie is looking, she's looking, she has a staffy that has very
little fur and it would, might,it might work, and not a long
tail.
Can you imagine classic, okaygoes and not Gus, not Gus, not
(21:00):
Katie, um, or the Katie on amalt, maybe, um and so.
So, if we think about it, um,when I was saying to Matt no,
matt, there's no horses atbadminton he was really wanting
the like, the confidence of thering of fire, but the ring of
fire similar to the ring oftissue paper where they sort of
fly through it.
It's asking massive, exactly.
It's asking massive confidence,yeah, because to trust you and
(21:20):
run into, effectively, a brickwall yeah, is what you're asking
?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
go through the brick wall yeah, it's hard and it's,
but it's really.
But if we break it down enoughand make sure that we break it
down, then I think it's a reallycool thing to be able to do
Absolutely massive, like reallyreally really massive and
brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So, jamie, if anyone sat on the fence and thinking
should I get hold of this badge?
It's uncomfortable.
It's uncomfortable sitting onthe fence you could be jumping
over the fence through a hoopWith fire, with fire, jamie, I
actually am really hystericalabout the idea that you wanted a
fiery hoop and you Googled it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
If you look at my, she actually Googled it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So she's actually Googled it.
Maybe a thing in the future.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
If you're thinking about it, if you're sitting
there and thinking maybe thiswould suit my puppy, my
adolescent my, my senior dog, mygeriatric dog.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yes, yes, yes and yes , there's something for everyone
.
There is, yeah, something foreveryone, definitely, definitely
.
And even the children have hadfun with it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, equally, I think, grandparents, um and um,
sister, mother, father, brother,I think they'd all enjoy it
really cool as well is like ifyou've got um, if you're um
limited to what you can like, ifyou're in a wheelchair, for
example, or anything like thatI've used it with clients that
have had that disability andthey just have so much joy.
(22:42):
Or if you've got a grandparentthat's sitting in a chair that
can't move much, then having thehoop is just such a rewarding
thing to play with.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
It's lovely, it's really really lovely.
So if you're sat on the fence,guys go and grab it.
It's over on the store and,equally, either way, people can
start right now having fun,can't they?
Basic games get yourself a hoop, go get yourself a hoop.
Like at very minimum, getyourself a hoop.
And I think the thing that, um,to sum up and to finish on, is
the fact that we're concepttrainers.
We train through a concept, andthe concept in in here that
(23:12):
we're building is confidence,and we're building confidence
through using a very, verysimple, easy, fun tool.
It's a hoop.
It's done in such a positiveway, it's done in such a fun way
, it's lighthearted.
It's amazing.
You guys need to go and grabyourselves a hoop and the
confidence badge, if you can.
Confidence Hoops is the name.
The game is many, manydifferent opportunities.
(23:34):
I think there were a lot.
I can't remember the number.
There were a lot, I think.
I think more than we everanticipated.
We were like writing them out.
It's just like just one more.
So, guys, go grab yourself yourcopy.
Remember this is the bestbaseball dogs and their learning
.
We know how to take it to thenext level.
Join us next week where we'regoing to be talking even more
(23:56):
confidence and until then, staysexy.
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