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Speaker 1 (00:05):
There are five things that if I do them on
a daily basis, they'll lead to a good day, sometimes
a great day. One if I sweat, if I grow
in some shape or form. If I connect this is
the key one. Or connect with someone, if I finish.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Something, bringing things to completion.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And the last one is what we're just talking about.
If I unpluck. We're human beings, not human doings. But
I think we're so on to the next I'd be
remiss if I didn't ask you. Could you share a
recent win, big or small, personal or professional.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome to the Shaping Freedom podcast, where we dive into
conversations that inspire personal growth, transformation and clarity and challenging times.
I'm your host, Lisan Bosquiat. Today I'm joined again by
someone who lives what he teaches. Antonio Nebs helps people
step out of autopilot and into intentional living. The last
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time that we spoke, he broke down what it means
to take responsibility for your life, and a lot has
happened since then, for him, for me, and for all
of us. This conversation is about what comes after the
initial awakening and what it looks like to sustain momentum.
Tell the truth about where you are and design a
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life that actually reflects who you've become. Antonio, welcome back.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Hey, thank you for having me. I already feel warm
and nice based on that you do emotional already.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That what you brought that in the room, sir. But
it's here, it's here for you. The last time we talked,
we you shared powerful insights about ownership and taking your
life off of cruise control. We talked a lot about autopilot.
And I'm curious to know what has evolved for you
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that conversation that I think took place about two years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, that conversation happened a couple of years ago. And yeah,
I think it's just important to say all those things
you just mentioned are things that I'm living and figuring
out in real time as well. I think all the
authors and coaches people that I know, these are men
and women that they're living this as well. So their
message is but they're experiencing as well. And so for me,
that's the same thing. You know, living stop my book
stopped living in an autopilot. I was living in an autopilot
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and it's outlets for that. Yeah, but you asked that question,
what has happened since, and a lot I know has
happened since. Now I'll just get straight to it. In
January of this year, unfortunately, with a lot of people
here in the California area, in Los Angeles and in Alsadena,
we had those crazy wildfires. Sadly, we were one of
those families that lost our home, lost everything in that.
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So that's one of the main thing that has happened.
And it's fascinating because I think for myself and so
many people, the fear has always been in my life,
what if I lose everything? What if I lose everything?
And then one day you wake up and you technically,
quote unquote have lost everything, at least in the physical
And that's one of those things. As a husband, as
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a father, you always look at things as if like, Okay,
let anything happen to me, but you don't want something
to happen to your kids, something to happen to your family.
So in real time, I had to stop living an autopilot,
and I thought I was not living an autopilot anymore.
But let me tell you that was a smack to
the face and awakening. And in many ways, I'm also
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going to say I can say ten months out from
that now a gift in many ways as well, which
I think a lot of people may be surprised to
hear that something tragic like that has been a gift.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
In what way? Well, first of all, I'm so sorry,
you know, to hear about that. That was an incredible
and is because it's still going on and for the
folks who are impacted by it such a tragic moment,
you know, for so many people who had to also
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experience what it's like to have your life change from
one moment to the next, like the real Dinah Washington.
What a difference a day makes? Right? In what way
has that been a gift for you?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well? I think that's want to rewind a little bit
and say when people hear you lose your house, for us,
it was not just losing our physical house. The only
thing that remained was our chimney. Our whole neighborhood was gone.
I'm talking about is just gone. Our kid's school gone,
local library, gone, local grocery store gone, all those things
just straight up gone. So until your point, a lot
of people will say, Elves, are things back to normal?
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And you just look at folks first like, nah, things
ain't back to normal. It's like when you lose the
loved one, remember lose my father. People would say, ah,
you are things back to normal. No, things are not
back to normal. It's a new normal. In terms of
the gift, a couple of things have come out of it. One,
we weren't in a big house twenty one hundred square feet,
you know, a standard house in the Pacific Palisades, a
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nice house had everything that we needed. We transition from
that with my wife and we have two kids, nine
year old twins, to an eight hundred square foot house
that we're renting that now has two bedrooms that we
made and has one bathroom. So the gift has been
that even though that house that we had previously wasn't huge,
we all could be doing our own thing. I could
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be in my detached office outside. Each of our kids
could be in their own bedrooms, my my wife could
be doing whatever in the house, and we can all
be doing our own things. Now in this eight hundred
square foot house. We all up on each other. And
I talk about a gift like this is time that
I give my kids, with my wife, all of us together,
that I would not have. I'm talking about We're always
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up in each other's faces. I'm taking showers, Dad, I
need to go to the bathroom. So there's an intimacy
that was created that we didn't have previously, and I
love that. And you know, even now, I'm like, do
I want a big house? Do I want a larger house?
And again, two thousand square feet suburban wives isn't huge.
I lived in New York City, so I lived in
much smaller places. But the intimacy that we have together
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as a family has been amazing. I would say. The
second thing that has happened is at a bucket list
dream come true. For the longest time, I had this dream,
I think ever since I studied abroad in college and Spain.
I had this dream that I wanted to every year
do a month abroad in a foreign country. And guess what,
every year I found an excuse not to do it.
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Cost too much, it's not the right timing, kids, schedules,
just finding every excuse I can think of to not
make this thing happen. Well, when this fire happened, guess what,
every excuse was gone. So we spent almost a whole
month of July and Portugal, Oh wow, which was amazing
and guess what, that would not have happened if we
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didn't lose our house. I had no more excuses not
to do something like that. So that's been a gift
in it as well.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, and so how are you moving forward with this?
What does this mean? I'm asking because again, sometimes things happen,
and we know that there were human beings and human
families that are impacted by these things that happen. But
we have very short memory in this country, probably in
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the world, right short, right, and so people are like, oh, yeah,
that happened last year, but it's a year later, right,
And I think that you laying out the and I
don't want to spend a lot of time on this
part of your story, but when you think about losing
not having your library or your supermarket or whatever the
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things are that make up an entire neighborhood, right, how
do you what is the next step within that journey
for you and your family?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, everything has been for now. That's where I'm at,
even today, ten months out of this. Even when we
talk to our kids, we're in this house for now,
this starch situation for now, just reminding them that we're
in this together and whatever happens, we will be together
as we move forward. But everything has been for now.
There has been no major big decisions that have been
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made as of yet, whether we're going to stay here
in La move elsewhere, all those kind of things. But
for me, the biggest thing is literally I had to
I used to be like a big goal person. You
think five years out, you think three years out, and
I had to rewind literally to one day at a time,
what makes today a success? And that Actually I did
not plan on publishing a book this year, but a
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book came out earlier this year out of this because
it kind of was a necessity for me, not from
a financial perspective, was something I wanted to do. And
so when all was going on, it was so overwhelming
at times that I didn't know what to do. But
I knew if I went won the day, I focus
on what the win was for the day to make
all the difference in the world. So for me, the
question asking stuff every single day is a simple one.
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What will make today's success. It's as simple as that,
whether it's personal, professional, big or small, what will make
today's success? And once I ask myself that question and
answer it, it gives me a lens to operate for
the day. And especially when you ask yourself that question
before you open up your phone, your emails and social
media in the world tells you what it wants out
of you, gives you intention, and I can stiff farm
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and say no, this is so much more. So what's
getting me through is ask myself that question, what will
make today's success? Even today, like it was have fun
with you? Like I was been looking forward to this,
like I have not done podcasting interviewsons so long. Really,
I've rescheduled with y'all. I just haven't been ready to
talk about certain things. It wasn't a priority. And so
for me today was do is that have a good
time here, have a fun conversation. Yeah, And I appreciate
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even the last time I joined you that it's the
rare time you get to come in a situation like
this and it's just a conversation. Yeah, not agenda. I'm
not here to sell anybody anything, but I appreciate you
and how you show up to have that conversation. So
the question of what will make today's success is guiding
me day in and day out.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
One of the reasons that I wanted to have you
back continue the conversation was because I got so much
feedback about the conversation that we had last time, and
that was a conversation two men by a man talking
about living on autopilot and the detriment that living in
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that state can be to your everyday living right. And
at the time, it was when I had first started
wanting to speak to more men about their experiences on
this planet for the very reasons that we talked with
my earlier guest today about the fact that men so
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often don't seek out help or support when they're going
through things. And what I loved about our conversation is
how dialed in you are to that and how just
you're this incredible voice of optimism and taking something and
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turning it into something that someone can actually use to
make their life better. And I really appreciated that, especially
as a woman hearing that perspective from a man of color.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, I appreciate you sharing that. And it's interesting you
said optimism, because one thing I've learned through this experience
is this weird juxtaposition of how pain and optimism optimism
can coexist in the same place. And I don't think
I really appreciated that that you can be optimistic, you
can be hopeful about the future and simultaneously be in pain.
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Is that reminder? Also check in on your friends. To
your point, you mentioned something earlier that the weeks, the
months go by and people forget.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And one of the best things to come out of this,
maybe best is the wrong word, is when you hear
about these tragedies that happened across the world, whether it's
buyers in Los Angeles, whether it's devastation from hurricanes, whether
it's flooding North North Carolina. Yeah, we're just talking domestic
right now. Right, we hear about shootings in different places.
We move on so dog one fast. The newspapers move on,
the media move on, but the victims, if you want
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to call them victims, they don't move on. And it's
been challenging straight up at times. And I feel so
fortunate to have such an amazing community that has like
rallied around me in so many ways, such an amazing
group of guys that have this group of men we
get together every Thursday called Man Morning. We talked about
it previously, have a newsletter by the same name, and
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we asked these beautiful questions of like what are you
celebrating or what are you navigating? And they knew what
I was navigating for a long time, but I'm still
navigating today. But the fact I get to share that
out loud and you know, not emotionally constipated with with
the anger, sadness, fear, even the joy, what a release
because I know so many men are out there right
now that they're holding on to so much and it's
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because they don't feel like they have a safe place,
or they don't know it's okay to share, or they
don't want to be judged by sharing that. For me,
it's that reminder of you have to find your people
who you can share these things with. And it may
not be your best friends and the people you kick
it with every single day, but it may be someone
in your community, at your church, a colleague, a coach
that you hire, that where you can go share these things.
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And it's that reminder also that and I wish someone
told me this when in my twenties, when I was
you know early on that sometimes you have to be
willing to write a check for that therapy. You have
to be willing to come out of pocket if it's
out of network. You have to be willing to pay
for that coach. You have to be willing to join
that community, whether it's digital or in person. You have
to be willing to pay to go to that event.
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You have to be willing to be inconvenienced. I think
about living in Los Angeles. I live on the West Side.
This is an amazing city, but the way I live
my life, I would say, prior to the fire, I
might as well live in Cleveland because I wasn't crossing
the four or five, I wasn't trying to I wasn't downtown. Yeah,
I was like, I'm what time is it now? I'm
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not doing all. I'm not trying to go for spend
forty five minutes and traffic to a thirteen miles. But
there's a gift of inconvenience sometimes for certain things people experiences.
I'm not sure I answered your question, but yeah, seek
out that support, find your community.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah. One of the things that you mentioned that I
wanted to talk about is that idea of safety, because
that's something that I hear very often that men don't
always feel safe sharing what's going on with them, which
I think surprises a lot of people. You know that
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what do you mean they don't feel safe? You know,
what does safety look like? And you can't speak for
every single man. I know that, but based on your
experiences and in the conversations that you're having, can we
talk about that, yeah, idea of safety? And I'll tell
you just really quick because a woman. Here's what I hear.
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Women ask men to share, to be vulnerable, to give
us a piece of what you have to share about
what's happening in your life, and then it gets used
against you. You as the representative for all the men, right,
and I'll represent all the women, right. So I hear
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that a lot. You know, I hear a lot a
lot of women who say, you know, I want my
guy to talk to me more, and then when the
guy does, the man does. It seems to not be
valued as a sharing of who they are. What helps
a man to feel safe?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's such a great question, and what you articulated is
spot on from my experience. Specifically, man with the relationship
where they're married or they have a partner, they'll share something,
they'll share a vulnerability. Let's just give an example of
someone being an entrepreneur and say they're concerned about this
quarter's dollars and cents and they wake up and like, yet,
I'm a little concerned about money this quarter. Things aren't
going like they're supposed to be going. And they end
up sharing that with their partner, just because they want
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to be open. They want to share what's on your mind.
And they finally share. The next day, they wake up
and they're good to go, hustle, let's go make it happens,
to do what I gotta do. They share that, but
they felt that, but they're moving on way to make
things happens. Then they come home and they're like, so,
you know, I'm really concerned now, I'm worried about our
financial wellbeing. Are we going to be able to do exer?
And you're like, hold on, I was just sharing what's
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going on in the moment. We're good, we're not finding
for bankruptcy, all the bills are paid. I just want
to share what's going on in that moment. But then
once it's something like that happens, they feel like it's
used against them. They just find that they don't want
to share that anymore, and they'll keep those things inside
and so they don't feel safe in that environment. And
I think it's it's cliche to say, but sometimes we
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just want to be heard as well. We don't want feedback,
we don't want a plan of attack the same way,
you know, being cliche, a lot of women will say
the exact same thing. I think it's also important as
we talk about that, and I've had to be reminded
of this even in my marriage. I love what Esther
Perel says, the therapist Esther Perrell, and she says, we
can't expect our partner to be everything to us. They
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can't be our lover, they can't be our best friend,
they can't be our co parent, they can't be our
business advisor, they can't be our coach. We try to
put everything on that one person. And I think earlier
on there there's a bigger part of the community and
certain things that left that community. Now as many folks
are going in church these days, all these different things.
So for me, you know, I advise a lot of
folks and myself as well, having that men's group where
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I can share some of these things that are going on,
to have that healthy outlet for that emotional constipation, to
work with a coach, to work with a therapist, to
go to those community events and to hear what other
people are sharing as well are so important that those
safe environments. Again, with the Man Morning group I meet
with every Thursday morning, we say what are he's celebrating?
What are navigating? We do not give advice, We ask
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follow up questions. We may coach, we may prod a
little bit, but we're not going to say, Okay, you
need to read this book, you need to do X,
Y or C. We just listen. We just share, or
people say, hey, you know I experienced something similar before.
Can I give you my experience on that? And I
share when I get that out with the guys, or
if I give it out with my coach or therapist
i'm working with, it changes the dynamics sometimes of what
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I share at home. Sometimes I will share certain things
with my wife, but I will always preface it with
what my request is in advance.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
How do you cultivate a safe environment for the men
who are listening? How do you cultivate and speak your needs,
let your partner know what it is that you want.
How do you do that? Because I think very often
what happens is a man will share with their partner
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and maybe the person doesn't really they don't really know
how to respond appropriate or in a way that feels
safe and feels good to that person, and then it
becomes about the way they responded, and then you walk
away and no one's happy or no one has learned anything. Right, So,
how can a man who's listening help to cultivate a
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better experience for himself in that and then maybe a
little bit of a device for a woman on what
to do in that same scenario.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, I'll say for the men, you have to pick
your moment. I think picking your moment is so critical,
especially if you have a lot of moving parts and
you got family, you got kids, all these moving dynamics.
You got to pick your moment where there's actually space
to have these conversations where you're not going to be interrupted.
I would say, let me just hit polity, say I'm
not perfect at this, I'm still learning a lot of this.
In real we all are, and we all time. Myself,
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I think it's important to make requests as we engage
in conversations. Something I do in my workshops when I
go to organizations and do team building and those types
of things. Sometimes what we do around the table is
we go around and say hey, how do you like
to receive feedback? And some people say I need space
to think before you respond. Some people I like to
hear stories or I like data those types of things,
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and so being clear on how you best like to
receive information I think is important. But in terms of requests,
it's like, hey, I'm going to share something with you
today and it's just what I'm feeling. I'm not looking
for advice, I'm not looking for a solution. Are you
open to that? Are you willing to hold space for
me to do that? I think nine times out of
ten people are willing to do that, even though maybe
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vulnerable for them based on what the person is going
to share as well. But most times we're not willing
to set the table. If you will, we just get
straight up into the main course without setting the table.
So I think we have to make requests. Also, I
don't think we should always do it alone as well,
Like there are some conversations, maybe maybe mediator is the
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wrong word, but a cult or a therapist or another
third party can be helpful in that situation. That helps
out a lot. Last thing that's to mind is especially
when it comes whether it's your kids or your spouse
is to assume best intent Yeah, like they're on your team,
they're on my teams. So even though what they say
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may seem a little bit aggressive, it may seem like
a little bit of a cut to me. Assume best intentions,
especially with people in your life that you deal with
every single day, that you love. And so I have
to remind myself of that as well. And we also
have to take accountability. That's one thing a lot of
us know that nobody likes to take accountability, right. We're
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really good at pointing our finger everywhere in society and
politicians at our spouse, the district, blah blah blah, mayor,
but nobody wants to point the finger here and say, hey,
what role can I play and making things better? So
those are a few things that come to mind.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, I think the word safety is an important word, right,
It's kind of like a I think it's a word
that should be integrated into the conversation because if I
say to you, I need a safe place to share
something that's on my heart, You're going to hear that
differently and you're going to sit up differently and think, hopefully,
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think twice about the way that you respond to it
because you don't want me, as someone that you love
and care for and someone who's in your family, to
perceive me as an unsafe space, right, you don't want
to be perceived as someone who creates an unsafe space.
I think sometimes even just saying that, speaking to the
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thing that you don't want, by putting it on the
table for that other person can help. Language is lang,
which is everything.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm going to use that word more myself. Like you know,
I think unfortunately we hear the word safety nowadays, and
people hear things like safety in the workplace. Yeah, unfortunately
has become overused in many ways.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
But this is a way to use it with intention.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
The right way exactly what you're talking about. And also
something I'm thinking about right now is we have to
be kind to ourselves and to our partners as well,
because and a lot of our upbringing that this was
not modeled.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh not at all.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
It was not modeled. Let me tell you My dad
was not you know, was angry and happy. There was anger, right,
and there wasn't a lot of safety. And you know
with wife or the husband asks for safety that this
didn't exist in things have changed. I'm glad. I'm glad
we're in a new place nowadays where we can talk
about these things. But also I think when we see
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how people communicate, specifically on the internet and on social media,
uh no, one's taking consideration safety and those types of things.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, yeah, but I think asking for it would help.
And I think also the accountability thing. Accountability is a
very positive thing. It's empowering, it's being in an empowered
state and taking responsibility and owning something that's going on.
So if people are willing to take accountability, not in
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a negative way, right like you got to take responsibility
for what you did, but taking a haountability to say, wow,
I know that I misstepped and that something happened differently
than how I wanted it to happen. What can we
do to fix it?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Which is so rare Unfortunately, what you said, I'm listening
to you like that makes so much sense.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But that's what we're pushing here right now, and that's
the point.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
That's what we need to tell people.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
That's what we need to do.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
That's what you need to do. That's the opportunity right
there to apologize, to say I misspoke or I said
the wrong thing, I didn't approach it. Help me correct,
help me and give that person opportunity to educate me.
AND's educate one another. Right, and again we don't have
to do this alone.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Rather right, as you were thinking about this conversation today,
this repeat conversation or part two to our conversation, what
did you want to talk about today?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
What were you excited about sharing today?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Wow? When I was happy to hold space with you
again because I require it too. Yeah, even though it
was digital last time. I remember telling my wife afterwards
that it did it just felt like a conversation. I
forgot that I was doing a podcast. But it's interesting,
as you said, what do you want to talk about? Right?
You know, what do you want to talk about? What
you want to come into it about? And I have
a couple of things I can share. But even right now,
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as we're talking about safety and we're talking about what
men do and don't share, you know, it's fascinating. I
was thinking recently and writing about how when I was
growing up, prior to my parents getting divorced, the relationship
with my dad and all that fun stuff, and then
as an adult when i'd go visit my father where
he lived in Kentucky. And I remember one day getting
up early to go to the bathroom or something like that.
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It was four am before he had to go to work,
not for a couple of hours, but I remember going
to the bathroom and looking at him. It was four am.
He was sitting at a table with just a cup
of coffee, lights barely on, no music, not distracted with
the newspaper, and nothing. And I'm like, what is this
man doing? Just sitting there at four am doing nothing?
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And I'll tell you one thing that this year has
taught me. I get it. I get the man who
needs that time to sit down at four am when
there no one's asking anything of him, whether it be himself,
his own expectations, society, a job, kids, spouse, you name it,
just to have that moment of peace, that moment of silence,
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to be with himself, in that moment of seeing my
dad there at four am. That I couldn't appreciate I
was probably in my twenties that I couldn't appreciate. Then
let me tell you something. I appreciate that now more
than ever because I have caught myself, including last night,
up at four twenty two am, with no alarm, just
pondering life, existence, all these types of things in silence.
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And you know we're talking so much about talking right now.
One thing I've been reminded of it, and it'll be
interesting to hear your perspective on this as well. It's
how important it is to be silent and what messages
can come through in the midst of silence. I'm committed
to like turning things off and unplugging more than ever.
I drove all the way here at the long thirteen miles.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Four hours because we're now that's about how long it's takes.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Oh, no radio on, no nothing. We're constantly filling our
ears and our bodies with so much information. We're taking
in so much. I read something interesting that said that
on an average day we taken like seventeen gigs of information,
the equivalent of more than seventeen gigs, but the equivalent
of seventeen movies every single day. That how much Dad
would take in. So the power of silence, which I
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think is so rare. So I'm curious if you have
any thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Oh yeah, I do. Two things. One is I was
raised by my dad and he was a single parent,
or we lived with him, always had a relationship with
my mom, but lived with my dad. And my dad
also early in the morning, you know, five six o'clock
in the morning, he'd be sitting on the couch downstairs
by himself, and sometimes I would hear him. Maybe he
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was like rehearsing something he was going to say, for
like in a corporate setting or a meeting. I don't know,
but sometimes he'd be down there, and I knew that
it was like his way of preparing himself for the day.
And that practice and some other practices really helped me
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as woman to understand the importance of self care and
to understand the importance of taking care of this thing
that I'm expecting to take in the seventeen gigs, to
take in the seventeen gigs of information or seventeen movies,
you know, in every day. And back then, social media
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was not a factor, right. Cell phones weren't even really
a factor, right. We had a phone on the wall.
But there's something to turning everything off and giving yourself
the opportunity to just sit with yourself, just so you
can allow your brain to slow itself down, just to
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give your brain a break, you know. And these are
things that we for those of us who are parents,
that we attempt to get our children to understand, right,
just be quiet for a minute. We got to do
that for ourselves because we're making decisions all day long, NonStop,
non stop, and now we have access to information as
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things are happening, and not just local to our community,
things happening all over the world. So you have to
turn things off. And the way to turn it off
for us as humans is to allow ourselves to be silent.
And I think the thing that people resist is what
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comes up. They get afraid, right, because in the silence
sometimes things come up. But going back to that idea
of emotional constipation, you gotta let it come up. You
got to let it come up and out of you.
You do, because once you do that, then you get
access to what's aunderneath.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It, and if you don't let it out, it comes
out in the wrong ways at the wrong time. That's right,
And many men now speak specifically, we're really good in
that's islence you're talking about of numbing as well, because
all it takes when you start feeling those fields, that emotion,
that that sadness, that or or whatever, all it takes
is a glass of wine to like all right, to
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numb right. All it takes is someone that they if
they smoke weed or cigarette like that substance. Sometimes all
it takes binging some Netflix. All it takes is getting
on on TikTok and sorry you're on this beautiful. It's beautiful,
but you just shared. But also just made me think
about when I went to the exhibit, Uh king push right, King,
pleasure King, Pleasure King Push that's a push a Tea album.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Shout out to push tea clip.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That's okay, My apologies, but you said you said a
phone on the wall, And now I'm wondering. When I
went through and I saw the space of the homer
was the kitchen, kitchen.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
There was a phone on that wall, that's right. But
at home, as a kid, we had a we would
plug in because the regular phone we're going on in tangent,
but this is school. The phone that we had had
like the standard wire, you know, attached to it. And
what we did was we and my sister and my
brother and myself we bought like the twenty five foot
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wire so that we can plug it in and from
the kitchen go into the living room, so we could
see when our dad was coming home. And then whoever
was on the phone would go back, put the phone
back on the wall, unplug the thing, plug in the
right one, steady it so it wasn't swing it. And
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that's what we would do, or my sister and I
would do, so we could talk to boys on the phone.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You didn't know about the long cord.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You didn't know about the look. He didn't know about
the long cord. You didn't know about that until later.
Because what my father would do is he I don't
know why we're talking about this, but my father would
literally answer the phone, and this is how we know
that it was a boy. He'd say hello, basquea residence,
and then he'd just go click and hang up.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
The fuck.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And we just say nothing and be like, oh shit,
I wonder who that was. And then the next day
the person would be like, I tried calling and this
man with a really heavy accent hung up with me. Yeah,
like that's my father, where HAITHI? You can't call my house?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, I'm glad you share that. I'm at I said,
King Push. I'm thinking about the Clips album, but it's interesting,
you know what something else I've been thinking a lot about.
It's how thankful I am in this digital age that
we live in, and I'm really just cognizant of this
thinking about our nine year old twins. I'm so thankful
I know what it's like to use a rotary phone
and turn and I have to go through all those numbers.
I'm so thankful that I know what it's like to
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have to use a map to figure out where I'm
going to get somewhere. I think these things have helped
me throughout this where I'm at right now, use a
physical map, no GPS in your car. I'm so thankful
this show that I wanted to watch only came on
Thursday at eight pm, and I couldn't watch NonStop TV
in the next show automatically right. I could give you
so many different examples of those things. I'm just so
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example that, so happy that I have to read a
physical book. I'm thankful for analog cassettes and DVDs and
CDs and going to Blockbuster and just hoping they had
the DVD that I wanted to watch on Friday.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You know, you talk about the map. What's interesting what
popped up for me is, besides the fact that you're
using the physical map, which was always kind of difficult
to maneuver, but we did it right, or you had
a co pilot who could read it for you. I
think that what's helpful about that is the fact that
we could from we'd have a bird's eye view of
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something where you could actually take a step back and
look at something and decide where you're going. And I
think that part of this just hit me. Part of
the challenge with what's happening today is we're in it.
We're in everything. It's here, and even when there's a map,
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there's a path being led for you know, drawn out
for us through GPS or whatever, we only see the
block that we're on and you only get that bird's
eye view when you zoom out. But how often do
people do that because they're just thinking about where they're going.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So what you're saying is we're losing our internal map
by us being distracted by all these tools, like our
natural map, our natural if you want to call a god,
well god, whatever you want to we're losing it's right, uh.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And the ability to look at something holistically right to
really like zoom out. And I encourage the folks who
are listening let's encourage the folks who are listening to
practice that. Just try it out for a moment. If
you zoom out you're on social media, zoom out of
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the experience of being on social media and look at
it from take a bird's eye view of even the
experience of being on social media.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
What a gift and doing that. And also just to
get to getting lost without an immediate solution. How many
real tips I've been on right to get out of
the car and go up to a stranger, and so
I'm trying to get to X, Y or Z, whether
it's a gas station or some random person. People don't
know how to talk to people anymore. I really think,
speaking of things I want to talk about is I
have this thesis and may or may not be writing
(35:37):
a book on this topic, but it's not. Analog is
the new luxury I think in this AI world, which
is amazing. I use AI every single day. It has
changed my business, has changed my workflows. I'm using it
to make money in many regards straight up like it's
part of my workflow in my business. But analog, I
think is a secret sauce. I think there's an opportunity
who you can become to give some tangible examples. If
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you do use a real map on a trip. Guess what,
Me and my own boy, me and my girlfriend go
on a trip and guess what. We're using a real
physical map.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Used to go to Triple A and get the highlighter.
Listening to an album, a vinyl album, Yes, do you have.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
A record player to in?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I don't, but you better get your I want to
get one, or a DVD or something like that, or
set tape. Right. I saw some information where like a
couple of years ago, it was the best year ever
for ballpoint pins that were sold, pen and paper, mechanical watches,
all these things. I think there's an opportunity to create
more IRL in real life analog experiences, and I think
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as we go deeper and deeper into AI and technology,
I think, specifically from a business perspective, there's an opportunity
to do real life stuff, real life stuff that people
are going to crave more than ever.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Do you think that that I want to get back
to the silence thing in a moment, Please help me
remember that. But do you think that that's part of
the reason why young people seem to have this pushed
this infatuation and deep interest in the eighties, for example,
like what was life like back then? And it feels
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that it's more than just being inquisitive about a different
time period in history. There's almost a nostalgia about it,
like maybe things were different and better. Then. Do you
think that that has something to do with it?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I think it goes back to the silence you talked about.
I think it goes back to the bird's eye view.
But I think what it really goes back to is
our nervous systems are unregulated.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
In a terrible way.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And I think even though we may say the eighties,
going to the mall where my friends at go to
somebody's house, see where the bikes are, go to the mall,
meet your people, those types of things, I think it's
because of our nervous systems are so unregulated. I think
about our kids whenever we go on vacation and we
go somewhere that has space and we're out in the country.
When I say space, I mean space, physical space. I
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see their nervous system just change, it resets, they become kids.
They're not craving the tablet, they're not craving the Netflix
shows and all that kind of stuff, and there's something
magical about that silence. I think they missed, and I
think we probably we can call it nostalgia simpler times,
and maybe maybe we go back. Maybe it wasn't, but
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there's something in that that we crave. And right now,
unfortunately I saw I heard somebody say something that broke
my heart. They said, in the future, our memories are
going to be of other people's memories because we're watching
other people's memories so much in real time. But I
think the nostalgia of the eighties was the simplenes, how
simple it was. But going back to the nervous system
(38:44):
in the silence, somebody said the other day I read
that the marker of good health is what your resting
heart rate is before you go to bed. When you
think about it, like your resting heart rate, Like where's
that nervous system? Are you regulated right now? And I
think a lot of people and in times over the
course of this past year especially, I wasn't always regulated
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doing the things in my body in my mind specifically needed.
And back to the point of silence. Silence creates that,
whether it's at four am like my dad and your
dad did, whether it's driving with no music on. So
I'm looking forward to listening to some some Marvin Gaye
on the way back. But which, So I've been listening
to Hear My Dear Remember that album? Okay, yes, yes, yeah,
(39:33):
I love that albums Love. I've been listening to Al
Green's album Bell, which is a gem as well.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Which what's the what's the hit on that one?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Bell? I'm not gonna try to sing, but do yourself
a favor. Put on his album Bell, be l l E.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
What else is on there?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I can't give you the names, but I can give
you the feeling. It feels like home.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, okay, that's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
It is. It is great, but the silence is key.
And I don't know if you remember your thought or
not what you're going to say.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
What I was going to say is I asked you
about silence from the perspective of what you do as
what men sometimes do when they're in that silence. And
I would be remiss if I didn't mention the fact
that women experience the same thing. And there are times
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where all humans, let's just say that right, get into
the space of silence and we get very afraid of
what could be coming up in that moment. And here's
the challenge with that. What you continually try to push
down will always try to make its way back up.
It's the survival of the thing, right, And if you
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allow it to come up, you're not going to die
by feeling a feeling right. But what you will do
is allow yourself the opportunity to experience life without the
pressure that that constipated emotion, feeling, thought, idea, desire has
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so just and I and it's not just. I don't
want to make it a man's problem, because men and women.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
It's been a woman. It's scary human, it's scary to
go that. Sometimes it's darkness when you go there. Yeah,
I don't do as much one on one coaching as
I used to do. With one of the assignments. I'd
give them my clients that they always resisted. It would
be go for a thirty minute walk with no iPad.
Excuse me, no iPhone, no haptics, nothing dinging, no no
(41:38):
no music, no podcast, nothing, just you, just you yourself
and outside walking for thirty minutes. All you hear is
your feet hitting the ground. Yeah, And they resisted like
nobody's business. And when they come back to me and
say is like, one, it was amazing, Thank you. I
needed that. They'll say, man, I started laughing uncontrollably. They'll say,
big bout of emotion came up and I started crying.
(41:58):
Processing something, I realized, there's a decision I need to make.
Beautiful idea came up something else, thinking that's the whole
shower kind of thing. Yeah, but it's scary. And I'm
not sure if you've ever had a panic attack before.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
And I had a panic attack and did not realize
that it was until I was in the hospital. So
I was like, I wasn't having a heart attack, and
they're like, no, no, no, that was a panic attack.
And I'm like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah yeah, and you can't end up in the hospital.
And those panic attack moments if you breathe yourself through it.
And by the way, if anyone's having a panic attack,
we need support. Go get support right now. Get support.
But I've had some of those in my lifetime, and
previously I try to distract myself from it and go
find to do something now. If I experienced that, typically
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when I'm on the road traveling for a long stretch
of time, for speaking, engagements. It is so hard to
sit through it. And I know it's happening, like this
is a panic attack. Who knows what's happening. Let's see
what's surfacing. Yeah, but don't don't, don't try to rush it.
Just be with it. Everything's okay, and it's it's it's
so hard.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
It is.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It is so hard.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
It is because we are programmed to resist discomfort.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
It makes me think about this when I see people
working out and jogging on the phone, what do you
do first?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I don't want to talk to you. Don't be calling
me talking about.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
We don't want to hear that may get to a
point where you got to be jogging and talking to
somebody at the same time.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
It just just be in your job. Just can't be
just be in your job.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
So just silence is such a gift, and an analog
is such a gift, and I think it's an opportunity
for all of us. There I found like just five,
I share five practices that I believed with this year.
(43:51):
Please and five practices are part of the One Day Method.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
And tell us about the book.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
So the book came from that losing the fire and
being overwhelmed and having to deal with insurance, do X,
Y and Z, and I realized for me, I can't
worry about thirty days down down the road. I couldn't
worry about six months. I needed to win today for
me and my family. And so got to that question,
what will make today a success? And a book came
(44:16):
out of that that's doing fantastic here and also internationally.
A planner came out of that. I had no plans
of the book. The book is called The One Day Method.
That's right, and I had no and now it was
a companion planner that's doing great, called the One Day
Method Planner. And I found that if there are five
things that if I do them on a daily basis,
and I guarantee that you'll probably agree with these, If
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I do them on a daily basis, they'll lead to
a good day, sometimes a great day, but sometimes at
least a good day. One. If I sweat in some regard,
whether it be yoga, whether it be lifting weights, going
for a run, and these are all common sense things,
but most folks don't do. If I don't, If I sweat,
if I grow in some shape or form, that could
be listening to a podcast like yours that could be
(44:58):
reading ten pages of a book, learning something on a
YouTube video. If I connect, this is the key one,
or connect with someone like right now I can check
off on my planner, connect because I feel like a
real connection with you. If I finish something okay, you know,
finishing is part of positive positive psychology. Yeah, and that
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could be an email that needed to go out, a
draft of a sales proposal. You can work on sales,
but whatever, finishing something in summergard doesn't need to be
something big. And the last one is what we're just
talking about. If I unplug sometimes unplugging for me no tech.
That's just five minutes sometimes some days. But if I
get that time, it makes a difference. And I find
if I do those five things every single day, it
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leads to a good day. And if I'm really on
point with my schedule on what's happening, typically three or
four of those could happen before even the workday begins,
because these days I'm getting up early, sometimes by choice.
Sometimes I just wake up. And I think. Something that's
unique about the planner that a lot of people get
a kick out of is that it begins at four am.
The schedule and most planners begin at six am. And
(46:04):
the reason why it begins at four am is not
because you have to get up at four am. I
want to remind people of how much time they have
in their day if they choose to use it. And
so the work that I can get done sometimes is
the workout. All those things I'm talking about between four
and six am, before the kids are awake, before the
world ask a lot of me, all those things, you
can get a lot done. And people always say, oh, well,
(46:26):
I'm not trying to believe me. I'm not trying to
show off saying I'm up at four o'clock or four
thirty or up at four thirty. People always say, what
time do you wake up? I think we're asking the
wrong question. I think the real question we need to
ask people is what time do you go to bed?
Speaker 2 (46:39):
That's right, because it starts there.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
It starts there. It's not what time do you eat?
What time do you go to bed?
Speaker 2 (46:44):
What do you do the day before to help you
to wake up? Whenever you wake up feeling refreshed and
ready for your day.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's so keen. It goes back to men. Now, this
comes back to men because unfortunately, and this goes back
to women too, because guess what, especially people are full
of busy schedules. Guess what, most people will get their
me time between nine pm and midnight, right, that's when
they have a cocktail, their beer or their wine. I'm
not against some being an adult have an adult beverage. That's when
they're scrolling through social media for a long time. That's
(47:13):
when they're watching Netflix, a Prime video or one of
those eighty two other streaming platforms. By the way, we
are basically paying for cable to get eight week with
all these.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Streaming what we're trying.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
To prove fool, I get it. I looked at my
last little bit last MX statement. It all adds up
to what I was paying for cable. Yeah, but most
people's meat time is between nine and twelve.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
And that's at the end of the day, the end,
which means that you are putting yourself literally putting yourself last.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
I would prefer for you to go to bed at
ten o'clock. That's right, I said, at midnight and wake
up an hour or two hours. You know what, Listen,
let's make it easy, thirty minutes earlier. Make it simple, right. Yeah,
So those are things that people are using with the
one day method, just to capture winning the day, and
then you win today, stack that on the next day.
At least we'll get seven days, a good month, good quarter,
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good good year, et cetera. So that's where I'm at today.
It's literally what can I do to win the day?
Speaker 2 (48:08):
So sweat, grow, connect, don't tell me think about.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
A check mark.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Oh, finish something and what was the last unplugged and unplugged?
Speaker 1 (48:24):
So how many of those have you done today? You connect?
You've connected with a lot of people already.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I've connected, I've learned something, I finished something on my
way here. I haven't sweat yet. That's coming, and I
haven't unplugged yet, but I will.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
So you already tackle three out of three out of five.
And what's important about this at the end of the
day is a lot of people talk about writing down
your gratitude at the end of the day, which I
think is so important. It is one thing that I
do in this and that's a little bit different. And
I'm curious if your perspective on this is at the
end of the day, if people write down three wins
from the day, that look at wins a little bit
differently from gratitude. When I say wins that can be personal, professional,
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big or small. Yesterday was a wind was picking my
daughter up from dance and that drive home with just
me and her, going back to the house to get
in to talk for a little bit. A win was
a document that I finished. A win was connecting with
the friend. So these aren't like some crazy old wins.
They're like, we have so many wins that happen every
single day, big or small, but we get distracted by
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things that we never take the time to hit pause
to say what what went well today? You know? And
that's different for me. That's different than gratitude. Yeah, I
can we think gratitude great.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
It's different. That is different because that's very connected to
how you spent your day every day. Gratitude is about
what you observed throughout the day. But wins are like
how did I spend my day? Like where did I
invest my time and my energy? And it doesn't have
to be again, the big, big win. Sometimes it's a
small one.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
It's small. Yeah, it could be a thirty minute walk
he went on, or that ten can be not listening
to music on that drive. It can be simple.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, one of the things that I struggle with is
I have amazing things that happened to me every single day,
it seems, and sometimes especially this year, this year has
felt like twenty years in one year. It's just been
so fast moving. There's been so much going on. It
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has felt a little chaotic. And one of the things
that I've been reminding myself of lately is slow down,
like these amazing things happened. And I haven't been bookending
my day in the way that works for me, which
(50:46):
is like get up in the morning, give myself the
beginning of the day, and then at the end of
the day have a moment to just be like, Okay,
you know, this was a great day, or thank you
or whatever it is right to kind of bookend the day.
And I haven't done that, And I feel the difference
when I'm not doing something for myself, when I'm not
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including my processing. I guess reset, that reset the experience.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
That refueling, that rebooting, that control all delete. By the way,
people listening, you need to turn your computer off and
reboot it, because yes, and I think it's so key,
and I think this is gonna sound cliche, but you know,
we're human beings, not human doings. But I think we're
so on to the next always always doing and I
got to be the coach and the author that I am.
And I'll be remiss if I didn't ask you. Could
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you share a recent win, big or small? Personal or professional?
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yes, By the way, if you're watching this, if you're
not watching this, I want to just for people who
are listening to this, I wish you could see the
amazing pause that she had and the breath that she
had because the way we're connecting right now. Next time
you have a conversation with the friend, the most valuable
thing that you can give someone is your attention and real, genuine,
(52:05):
honest interest, and we don't do that. And that's a
great question. You can ask someone what's a recent win bigger,
if you're not into small talk and all that nonsense,
what's a recent win for you? Big or small? And
you will see a version of that person show up.
That is amazing. I'm happy that I saw you got
to see it in person. Again, you're calming, amazing presence
this whole time I spent time with you, but I
(52:26):
just saw something else inside of you as you exhaled
and you thought about it, that gave me a job
of energy of positives.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you why something, and I
can't speak to what it is yet, but i will
say this. I had a very brief interaction with someone
about a month and a half ago. And I get
a lot of requests very often, and I'm very grateful
(52:54):
and blessed, you know, to have that in my life.
And someone walked up to me very randomly and said
I want to help you, to tell your story, and
I said, okay, yeah, send me something, and I gave
them my email address and left it at that. But
there was something in that that felt there was a yes.
(53:15):
There was something in me that said say yes to
this person, and I did, and we had a conversation
yesterday about something that I'm not ready to talk about.
But the win isn't what is going to happen or
the end result of it. The win for me and
what you saw go across my face was the fact
(53:38):
that I trust myself and the fact that I got
that my trust in myself got confirmed through the conversation
that I wound up having with this person.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Without revealing what that conversation was about, I'm curious the
difference for you, and when people have a lot of
requests coming from you, and the difference in that interaction
with that person. What what the difference in the requests
and all the asks that come in and and that energy.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Oh, I will tell you it was the space in
that very fleeting moment. It was the space that was
created between me and this person. It was literally like
I don't know ten seconds and I was like okay, yeah, yes,
And then that yes moved to some email conversation that
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then moved to a conversation that we had yesterday. That's
something very exciting that I'm not ready to share. I
will share later. But the win was saying yes and
not allowing the flow of something that feels right for me.
That was the wind, trusting myself.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, yeah, you sh That.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Was a great question. Yeah, that was a great question.
What's a recent win for you?
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Wow? A recent win for me? I think there's been
a quite a few something happened. Maybe you can speak
to this after the fire. I've been a professional speaker
for over ten years now. I've been fortunate enough to
speak a lot. You know, it's a vast majority of
my income and I speaking in front of six thousand people.
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I speaking in front of one hundred people. It's me on
a stage for an hour, no slides, just sixty minutes.
You know, it's a pro it's what I do. It's
my livelihood. Something happened after the fire and who I
am on stages today is just very different than who
I was ten months ago. And someone who had seen
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me speak a couple of times, and I'm even getting
emotional thinking about it. I spoken event recently. They said
I speak a few times over the years, and they said,
You've always been amazing on stage. But I felt like
I met you for the first time this talk like
it was like, I feel like I met you for
the first time. Thank you, And I was like, wow,
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I felt that because the the veneer, the the guy
who was a TV guy in New York City for
so long, the Polish, I don't have energy for it anymore.
I think that's the best way to say that it
burned away. To be cliche, Yeah, it burned away, and
(56:20):
so none of that nonsense exists anymore. Become a lot
more direct, I think too, a lot more clear in
my communication with people, and on stage, they just see
something real, so that that someone sharing that recently was like, wow,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
It sounds like they met a more authentic question of
who you are.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah, I mean I wouldn't think that i'd bring, not.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
That I would see not that I don't see you
as an inauthentic person at all at all. And that
was one of the reasons why I felt so filled
up by the last conversation and I was so excited
about having this one. But I think that there are
certain experiences that we have in life. This is this
speaks to discomfort. There are certain experiences that we can
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have in life that challenge us and that can also,
to use your words, burn parts of us away that
are no longer needed. And if that has translated into
your ability to show up on stage more full of Antonio,
(57:27):
I think that's an amazing thing.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah, thank you, it's yeah, it only came through the challenge.
It came through the fire. Literal has eccential, philosophically, burned away,
burned away the mayor. I think the best way to
put it on the guy back and walk in any
situation that light people up with other in line. It's
cool picking up the kids or something, and a lot
of that guy is like I don't owe you. It's
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not it's not my job to make you smile.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
I can.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
I can just be here. Yeah, that's it. I can.
I can just be here.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
I don't have to. There's no other there's no other requirements. Yeah,
I can just be here.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
That's a book title, right there.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
There you go, there you go. I'm going to watch
for that title. Two quick things, the One Day Method.
This is the planner. This is the planner, right, the
best way for did you sign it for me?
Speaker 1 (58:17):
I will, of course.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
Okay. What's the best way for a person to start
with the with the One Day Method planner that accompanies
the book.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah, the best way First go to the One Day
Method dot com and go check out the book number
one or letter or the number one number one Day Method,
the One Day Method dot com. There you can learn
more about the book. You can learn more about the planner.
I will start with the book, which is a quick read.
It's one of those books that has what ten chapters,
and you can read any chapter.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Why do we have to say it's a quick read
these days? Why are we saying that?
Speaker 1 (58:49):
I think thank you for saying that. It is literally
a quick.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Read read it. It's not a lot of words. Don't worry,
it's a book.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
It goes read the book. It goes back to what
we just said. People are unwilling to be silent and
just be with the book. Right the book. Take the time,
read the book, take the time up read us six times,
read a sixth. Yeah, thank you for that reminder. That's
the best way to start. There's a free starter kit
there where you can get like a starter for at
no cost whatsoever. Okay, and I think folks will be
really surprised, and I really like it and it's simple.
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I think they're going to be some things that they
know that they need to be reminded of.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
Okay, can I see this? And he's going to sign
it for me. So this is the so for the
video portion of this, the one day method you're going
to this is going to be filled beautiful words soon
and uh.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
As an explanation of top how to use it. And
it's very straightforward and simple and compared to other planners
that feel like you're about to sign off to get
permission to take off at LaGuardia Airport, this is a
lot more simple and straightforward.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
What I love about this. I'm a journaler and so
and I actually just released journals from Shaping Freedom. So
go to Shaping freedom dot com for that. And what
I love about this is that it's it feels very spacious,
it's clean, and it feels super spacious. And so for
those folks who really appreciate pencil or pen to paper,
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this is beautiful because there's room enough to be able
to kind of write your ideas down, maybe to contemplate
some of what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
And the cow many items are on the to do list?
How many are there?
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yeah? Five on the five on the to do list,
the wins that you talked about, your top five so
you can check those off every day. And then your
essential three. What are the three things that you know
you need to do?
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
As someone said a long time ago, if you have
more than three priorities, you don't have any.
Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Yeah, or you have too many in you exactly. Antonio,
thank you so much for spending this time with me. Again,
I really appreciate it. I always get I always walk
away from our conversations or the two conversations we've had,
or even the exchanges that we've had online, just feeling
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very happy to know you and very excited about the
ways that you're contributing to the world and the work
that you're doing, and the impact that you're having on
other human beings like yourself, and the fact that you're growing.
As you're growing other people, you're growing yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Thank you so much honor to be here and after
everything went down, I really appreciate you checking it on
me and you reach out. I don't forget that you
reach out. That means a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Yeah, yeah, So thank you all so much for listening.
I encourage you pick up the book. Go to One
Day Method dot com check out Antonio Neves Nevs, Jeez
Antonio Nevs thoughts and philosophy around the One Day Method.
(01:01:53):
Life can be kind of heavy. There are a lot
of things going on in the world, and I think
that I love the fact that this speaks to this
speaks to our ability to own one day at a time, right,
because if you fill this all up, and I'm not
going to ask you how many pages are here, there's
a lot. But once you fill this up, what you
realize is, Wow, I've taken this chapter of my life
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that this book represents one day at a time. And
sometimes that is the thing you know, that's the wind.
That's the victory, right, the fact that you're able to
just take one day at a time. So thank you
so much for joining us. I appreciate it. Thank you
for sharing so generously with the Shaping Freedom audience as
you always do. And what can we do to support
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you before we close?
Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Oh, just go to the one Day Method dot com.
I appreciate that, Say hi on social media, check out
Manmorning dot com for the newsletter. And again, honored to
be here with you. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Yeah, all righty, So until next time, thank you so
much for listening. Don't forget to like share, tell somebody
and what you could read really do for me. I'm
gonna ask myself this question is if you got something
out of this conversation. Very often we get very excited
about new information, right and we're like, yeah, that's great.
(01:03:12):
Apply it. That's the way to program these new learnings
into your life experience. Take the information and do something
with it, because then that's how you take it a
day at a time, and that's how you really transform
your life. It's the little steps, the little steps. So
(01:03:34):
thank you all for listening so much. Thank you Antonio
for being here with me and until next time. This
is Lisan Bosquap the Shaping Freedom Podcast