February 10, 2025 • 43 mins
This episode leads listeners through a rich conversation about functional medicine and the significance of amplifying one's intuition in health choices. Mary Kate emphasizes the interconnected nature of physical and emotional well-being, providing insights on nurturing a balanced and authentic path to wellness.
• Highlighting the journey into functional medicine
• Distinguishing between traditional medicine and functional medicine
• Importance of developing intuitive eating habits
• The role of food quality in emotional and physical wellness
• Connecting emotional health to physical symptoms
• Encouraging steps toward personal empowerment in health decisions
• Highlighting the value of supportive mentorship in health journeys
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to she is Redefined, the podcast where we
break free from societalexpectations, redefine our
identities and step fully intothe woman we were always meant
to be.
I'm Katie Smith, your host andguide on this journey of
transformation.
Here, we're all about embracingchange, cultivating confidence
and living life on our own terms.
Each week, we'll dive intotopics that inspire, challenge
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and empower you to redefine whatit means to be you.
Dive into topics that inspire,challenge and empower you to
redefine what it means to be you.
So, if you're ready to rewriteyour story and live life that's
bold, authentic andunapologetically yours, let's
dive in.
Okay, this is such an excitingday and I feel like this has
been in the works and in motionfor so long, but y'all, I have
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such a special guest.
My sister-in-law, the badass,the amazing clinic nutritionist,
functional medicine guru, ownerof her own nutrition like
functional medicine business, ison the show with me today.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Mary Kate Hi Welcome.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm so fired up, so fired up.
Okay, so this is how I startwith everyone.
I just want to get everybody upto speed, so could you start by
telling us a little bit aboutyou, who you are, what you do,
how long you've been doing it?
That would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
I got my undergrad and mymaster's in nutrition and I have
always kind of been on more ofthe holistic route, though my
mom actually found a functionalmedicine practitioner for me
when I was about 16, because Ihad been struggling with a lot
of just symptoms that no doctorscould kind of help me with, and
(01:34):
I'm so grateful and thankfulfor my mom because they always
want to put me on likeantidepressants and things for
all the symptoms I was havingand she was like, no, we're not
going to do that.
And so she had been likereading this functional medicine
practitioners like newspaperclippets for years and love the
way he talked about the body andeverything.
So she actually took me to seehim and that was the the fire
(01:59):
that got lit underneath me forsure, because he was the first
person to actually run labs onme that were very detailed, and
he sat with me and instead ofsaying nothing's wrong with you,
he was like there's a lot wrongwith you, but I can help you,
and that was such an amazingtime in my life.
I remember and it's so funny Iremember like sitting in his
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office and I was like I'm goingto work here one day and I did
so.
I got to work for him and hementored me for about five years
and that was an incredibleexperience because that's really
what gave me the foundation offunctional medicine.
It taught me who to study under, who's really like ahead in
this kind of world, because Idon't know how much you know,
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some of your listeners know, butlike functional medicine it's
kind of world, because I don'tknow how much you know, some of
your listeners know, but likefunctional medicine it's kind of
interesting.
Now, like I don't love usingthe name, just because it's kind
of got distorted a little bitoh yeah, yeah.
So I would say like there'sdefinitely some amazing
functional medicinepractitioners out there that
really know what they're doing,and then some others that you
know just hopped on thebandwagon hopped on the
bandwagon, kind of doing it formoney.
(03:11):
It's very cookie cutter whereit's like the lab teaches them
how to order the lab and thenthis is the like supplements you
give them without any realunderstanding of what's really
going on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, yes, oh my gosh, I didn't know half of that,
because I knew you when you were16, which is so crazy 16.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You knew me that young.
That's crazy.
I think I did, yeah, I mean itwas either sophomore and junior
year.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I remember meeting you and your boyfriend at the
time and like it's just so, whatcrazy.
But uh, that god bless, signy,that's my mother-in-law, that's
mary kate's mom, for doing that.
Like that is so cool.
And, by the way, I did not knowthat that you like manifested
that you wanted to then workunder that chiropractor, cause I
know so much about that fromyou working underneath him.
What a cool full circle moment.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I've had a lot of little of those moments in my
life like where it's just amoment in time where I'm like
this is happening and there'slike there's nothing that doubts
my mind about it.
Like even just getting my carthe other day, like I saw one
car, I sat in one car and I waslike look at that and I got it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yes, oh girl.
We could talk about so much onmanifestation and all that I
like could go blue in the face,and I actually do want to touch
on that in this conversation too.
I feel like this is going to bean hour long, folks, so like,
buckle up.
But let's move into thefunctional medicine, because
this podcast is called.
She is redefined and it's allabout redefining everything in
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your life redefining success,redefining your relationship
with money, redefining parentingand redefining health.
And I really want to touch onthe functional medicine because
I feel like I hear that term allthe time and I'm like I hate to
judge and I'm not judging, butI just feel like all of a sudden
it's everywhere.
So I love that.
You said that the term hasalmost been mentioned too much.
I can't remember the exact wordyou said, but like I could you
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touch more about that and howyou are different, because
you've opened my eyes a lot tomedicine and how you work with
your clients.
Actually, that spurred thisconversation.
We were talking about one ofyour clients and you were like,
yeah, you know, she had twosurgeries for her spine and the
headaches and all the otherthings.
And all of a sudden you're like, hey, have we ever looked at
this and that?
(05:12):
And then you like saved herlife.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I'm like I'm trying to remember that exact
conversation, but I mean,there's been so many instances
like that in my life that I'veworked alongside and you know
it's really interesting.
Yeah, like, like we said, Ithink that there is a duty that
I feel like I have to make surethat, like I do things fully,
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wholeheartedly.
I'm always like redefiningmyself, and so I love that I'm
on this podcast, because there'sbeen so many times where I'm
like I literally just sit thereand be like, am I a good person?
And I'll, like I've asked mypartner, do you think I'm a good
person?
Like I feel like I'm alwaystrying to work on those kinds of
things.
So I definitely like do that inmy business.
Like why am I doing this?
Why do I want to help people?
What is it really about?
And you know, I continue torefine it and making sure that
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it's not something that's it'sreally about helping people
deeply.
So I think that that's reallyimportant.
I think the background innutrition that I have because
I've studied like anatomy andphysiology and like metabolomics
and like looking into yourmetabolism I feel like some
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people who get into functionalmedicine don't have that
understanding, so they don'treally understand how the body
and the metabolism works tobegin with.
So I think that that's anotherlayer that's been really
important in my life.
I think I got to work undersome incredible mentors where I
saw that they were really inthis for the right reasons and
they worked on having balance intheir life too.
So that was one of the biggestreasons I wanted to go on my own
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in my own business was becauseI could not have a work-life
balance.
Working for somebody else Causeyou just honestly, you just
can't make enough in this world.
And at the time because again,I was doing this like 10 years
ago when medicine, likeeverybody, was like what, what's
functional medicine?
I've never heard of that termbefore yeah, I think that those
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things have put me in a reallygood position.
And then also, having so many ofmy own experiences, I'm such a
sensitive Sally.
It's so there's so many prosand cons to that.
It's fricking, annoyingsometimes, but I love you.
It's been incredibly helpfulbecause, well, I would say in
the very beginning of my career,I was so boundaryless to a
fault, didn't know, had no ideaabout energetic boundaries and
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things like that, and I'm stilllearning, please.
You know like I Absolutely Welland I love that.
I don't think I'll ever be ahundred percent.
You know, like boundaryless, tostop being human but um, or
having boundaries, but yeah.
So I think that in the beginningof my career was like I would
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have a patient who was likecoming in for, let's say, like a
yeast infection or let's say,you know, I don't even know,
just some some type of thingthat they were dealing with.
That was like literally asymptom.
I would walk out of there andthen I would have it and I would
have to be like okay, and sothat taught me how to really
heal things and look into, likewhat's happening in the body,
because I was going through ittoo and so.
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And then it was crazy because Iwould work on healing something
and then the next week I wouldhave like five people with that
same issue and I'm like I've gotyou, wow.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
What a trip.
I love that you're now bringingin the energetic side of this
and it's like, yes, withoutboundaries.
I actually just recentlyrecorded an episode it hasn't
gone live yet aboutconversations, the energy of a
conversation, and then takingthat with you throughout your
day instead of leaving theconversation there, and it
sounds like that kind of is whatyou're talking about with the
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boundaries and how important itis in those situations.
But again, we're humans, sowe're not going to be completely
boundary life locked in.
I think only like monks arelike that or something.
But I think there's so muchimportance to then recognizing
that and not just like goingwith the victim mindset or
victimhood or whatever it's like.
Why is this happening again?
Am I cut out for this?
(08:58):
How I love that youself-evaluate.
You do a little audit, a littlecheck-in how can I be better
here?
Where's the leaks right?
And I absolutely love that andI love how what you do is you
really blend in your intuitionand y'all.
She is incredibly gifted onlike intuition and energetics.
You got to follow her, you gotto listen to her podcast, all
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the things Like her, and I geekout every family event where I
can like talk to her about thisstuff and I think that's what
makes you, with your nutritionbackground, such a rising star
in what you do, because it's ablend of so many things and you
have such a big heart.
Like you're not in it for for,like the ego stuff, the
materialistic stuff, I trulyfeel you just really want to
serve people and help peoplethrive, feeling alive.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Absolutely.
Yeah, it's a big, big goal ofmine, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, I will say and yeah, I'm a definitely a big
internalizers, like you know asituation I internalize and I
like think about it and I, youknow, feel it.
So, yeah, I've had to startkind of, where I've actually
worked with like an incredibletherapist.
That's been very helpful tokind of redefining how I show up
(10:07):
in certain situations, Likewhen I go through something, why
I'm internalizing something tobegin with, why I started doing
that when I was a kid, like youknow, it's kind of like a safety
mechanism that we learn andyeah, so it's all about like I'm
just totally in the space ofchecking in and, you know,
continuing to shift things thatjust aren't serving me anymore
(10:29):
and aren't making me feel goodanymore.
I'm sure you can testify tothat and doing that in your life
in so many ways.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I constantly.
I love how you're talking aboutevolving and like looking at
what's going on.
Ryan like calls me like themasterful researcher, because
that's that's just how I live mylife now, where I'm like I want
to figure it out because I wantto feel like a million bucks.
That's like my new thing that Ikeep talking to clients about,
that I keep talking on my socialmedia is about like, I just
want to feel like a millionbucks.
(10:57):
So I'm not going to wait for myhusband to make me feel that
way, or for my kids or from frommoney.
I used to chase money heavilyand it was to feed my ego
because my inner child was sowounded and so I stopped that
shit.
I don't talk about money.
I talk about the growth I'vehad, because I think people need
context, but I don't even needthe growth to be feeling like a
million bucks, and that's a lotof.
(11:17):
What I think you're saying ishaving that self-awareness,
becoming self-aware, where arethose wounds, love on that inner
, that inner child and all ofthat Now shifting back into
health and medicine.
So like, like, what is onething that you would have people
start with if they were likehey, like I really want to feel
my best in 2025.
And this is outside of theaffirmations and the mindset
work Like what would you coachsomeone to do as step one?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I mean, if I'm not like working with them and I
don't know their story, it's alittle bit harder because, you
know, I have to be a little bitmore general.
But I do know one of the mostimportant things is to stop
listening to all the bullshitthat you see on Instagram of
what you need to be doing, whatmorning your morning routine
looks like.
You know, I think that gettingmore in touch with your inner
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self, your intuition, and tryingto like basically gain that
skill, so that when you seesomething and you're like, oh,
should I be doing that, insteadof trying to think of it
logically and like you know, notbasically stepping more into
your body and being able to askyour body does this feel good to
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me, should I actually be doingthis?
And then you'll get more of ayes or a no and then you'll know
is this something that you knowI need to be doing?
So I think just having thatinner knowing is really really
helpful in this world, becausewe have everything at our
fingertips.
That's why I think my intuitionand my practice helps me a lot,
because there's a milliondifferent paths I can go down
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and I have to.
Someone's energy I have toassess.
You know, like when I saysomething and I can like see it
on their body or the face orenergy of, like, oh, that didn't
hit well, like okay, and then Iask him like oh, can you
actually see yourself doingsomething like that?
And then they might tell me,like actually, no, I can't.
And it's like that's reallyimportant to me because I can
give somebody, you know, ablueprint of what the human body
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needs.
Is everybody going to do that?
Is everybody going to thrive?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
No, oh my gosh, I can relate to that in my own
business.
I can give you a blueprint ofhow to scale your business, but
without me looking under thehood and working with you and
seeing what the actualroadblocks are, you're only
going to get so far.
I love that you just said thatand I can relate you know health
to like me with business.
Yes, that's the power ofworking closely with someone in
proximity and I think that'slike the best investment one
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could make.
And I do think there might be aparadigm shift on that, where I
feel like people were kind ofafraid to spend money on
themselves.
Or at least in my world, I'mseeing more and more people.
They're like that is the bestinvestment I can make, so I'm
going to put my money there.
I'm not going to like playaround anymore with buying this
like off the shelf, greens juiceor something.
No, I'm going to work withsomeone that like understands my
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gut or whatever, or like in myworld, I'm going to stop buying
all the courses and enough isenough.
And I want close proximitybecause I want to go somewhere
and I want to go there fast.
I feel like I'm seeing that alot and it just jazzes me up
because we got one.
We got this lifetime right.
Like I wasn't going to say wegot this one life.
It's still like freaking how Iused to think.
I mean, that's a conversationfor a different day, but we have
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this lifetime, so like, let'smake the most out of it, yeah,
especially as we start a newyear, you know, and so tell us
more about the topics that youlike to talk about on your
podcast and so people can likecheck it out if they're
interested.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, my podcast is called Are you Awake Yet?
And I started it because Istarted noticing a lot of people
were waking up to just how sickand money-driven our society
was.
I mean, just so many thingsright, like there's just so much
beneath the surface so itreally can cover anything Like,
for example it's so interestingto think about this kind of
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stuff because I've always beenon like a weird train.
It's so funny because when Iwas younger, people would kind
of not like make fun of me.
I was never, like, you know,bullied, but like people would
just kind of, you know, saycertain things or like, oh,
you're interesting.
And it's so funny because nowso many people are like doing
exactly what I was doing, youknow, 10, 15 years ago.
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But I will never forget likehaving a conversation with some
girlfriends that I had incollege about like birth control
, and you know I was the onlyone not on birth control,
literally the only person like Inever met anybody else that was
like not on birth control.
And it was just again anotherintuition that I had like, oh, I
don't think that this is right.
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I didn't necessarily understandwhy, but I just felt that.
And I remember talking to someof my roommates at the time and
saying like, oh, I think birthcontrol is probably not good for
us.
And one of the girls got reallyupset and she was like why
would my doctor give mesomething that's bad for me?
And-.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Million dollar question.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And I, like didn't know how to answer it, but I was
just like I just had thesefeelings, you know.
So, anyways, and now I honestly, like almost every single
friend I have is not on birthcontrol Like and I'm not saying
that birth control is the allevil like, please do what you
need to do.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, I always just feel like I need to say that
because I never want to seemlike I'm.
I'm really in the middle ofmost things and will support any
person on any journey of theirlife.
But it's just so fascinatingnow that, like so much research
has come out now and so manywomen are like wait, what am I
doing?
You know?
So, and maybe it's the agegroup.
Obviously, like, a lot ofpeople in my age group are
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thinking about kids now, so I'msure that plays a role, but it's
just so fascinating to me tosee that shift.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh, absolutely, and it's just so cool.
Your natural intuition has ledyou to all these things and then
becoming influential, but alsokeeping an open mind.
It's like you weren't tellingpeople what to do.
You were just like speakingyour truth and being authentic,
which is like amazing.
And then, and then now look atthe shift in that.
It's crazy how birth control II was not on it very long, but I
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actually stopped taking it whenI started dating your brother,
ryan, when I was like this thingkeeps messing me up, like I'm
done with it.
So I've been off of it for like14, 15 years.
And yeah, but it's so crazyreading about things A
girlfriend I went to high schoolwith actually had a gnarly
blood clot situation happen frombirth control and then she
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stopped it.
And it's just like it's scarywhen people prescribe these
things and you want to trustthem.
And then you're like how, likeyour friend just asked, like why
would my doctor have prescribedthis to me if it could like
hinder something or hurt me?
And like I feel like that needsto be the conversation more,
like can you awaken yourselfenough to get more in tune to
your body?
Is it a yes, is it a no?
What do you feel in your gut?
What do you feel in emotion?
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And if you don't know anythingabout human design we have
talked about that, listeners,you know tap into what your
authority is and then, if you'renot finding it with a provider,
like yeah, it might take moretime to find a more holistic
doctor who could help you, butwhat is your life worth?
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What's that worth?
Do you know what I mean?
It's like I think that's moreimportant rather than just like
everyone always says, they don'thave enough time, like they're
rushing through life to getsomewhere, to feel something,
all of these things, and I'mtrying to help shift that
paradigm because it drives menuts.
I have so many clients who arealways telling me Katie, time is
my issue, time is my issue, andI'm literally like we all have
the same amount of hours in theday.
Some of us might have more helpthan others, but we all still
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have the same amount of time,and time can bend to your
reality.
It's just your mindset aroundit, and so it's like why don't
you just go the extra step tomaybe look at something holistic
or functional to help you ifyou are struggling with
something like this is just ablanket statement.
I don't know if whoever'slistening is thinking about this
, but it's always good to get asecond opinion on things.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, I mean, it's your health, like.
One of my favorite sayings isoh gosh, I've been saying it for
years and now I can't rememberit, but um, it's uh.
If you don't take care ofyourself, where are you going to
live?
You know, like you know.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I love that.
Or then, like you, your body isa temple, like we are souls who
have been put into a body.
Take care of it, cause who elsewill?
Who's going to give you thefood, the smoothie, the whatever
you know the fiber to eat?
No one is.
We're all adults so like, and Ithink that is what the biggest
reason that why my businessscaled is because I actually
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started looking within.
I want to feel better.
What can I do to feel better?
I started silencing my mind.
I started eating foods thatmade me feel better.
There's a psychological thingwith food.
Can we touch on that at all?
Like what is your experience?
Or take on, like the foods thatyou feed your body?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I mean, obviously, I see many different
individuals, and food is a wayfor me to like connect with
these people, to give themsomething tangible so that they
can start to see how their bodyresponds.
I think that that's amazingbecause that's how it worked for
me, whereas, like my thebeginning of my journey, I was
like in the physical world, butI didn't even know that that was
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just bringing me to my innerworld, you know.
So I think that that is so sucha tangible thing that you can
like utilize, and one thing thatI often say is like and talk
about is that you know,obviously food is life and it
has life within it, and so themore we eat processed food, the
more dead the food is, the moredead we're going to feel, and so
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the more food you source that'salive and fresh and freshly
picked, the more alive you'regoing to feel.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Mary Kate, we can end this program.
What am I saying?
Episode, or right now?
You just blew my freaking mindwith what you just said.
Okay, let me repeat that again,y'all did you just hear this,
the more processed food you eat.
The processed food is not alive, it doesn't come from a living
thing, it's dead.
So then we internalize it,which makes you feel empty and
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dead inside, as opposed toeating plants, things that grow
from the earth, live on theearth, meat plants, which is a
living, breathing thing thatthen you put in your body to
make yourself feel more alive.
That was amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, and that's really the first place that
somebody could start if theywanted to have a better
relationship with food.
Where's my food coming from?
How processed is my food?
What changes can I make in myday to day that would help me
get a little bit more fresh food?
So, for example, here's areally simple thing you could do
.
Let's say you ate eggs in themorning.
Can you chop up and put somefresh herbs on top of that, like
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that's already one step of justgetting something that's alive,
ready, and like going to giveyour body some more
micronutrients.
Because really, with food, it'sdefinitely about density.
You know how dense is the foodand what we're saying when we're
saying that is how muchnutrition is actually in that
food.
You know you have a potato chip.
It's carbohydrates, you know,and there's not much else to it.
But if you eat, you know asteak, you're getting protein,
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you're getting B vitamins,you're getting collagen I mean
the list goes on you're gettingall these micronutrients, and so
it's completely different.
So that was another thing.
In college I had a lot offriends that were weightlifters
and things like that, and it wasall about macros hit their
macros and they didn't care howthey got there, you know it was
like eating um, okay, I have toget a thousand more calories.
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I'm going to eat Oreos, and youknow they looked great because
they were young, their bodieswere adaptable, you know, but if
they continued that for areally long time they would be
very sick, and so I think thatthat's really critical is
knowing that it's not all aboutjust calories in, calories out.
It's what's being broughtalongside these calories, which
is micronutrients.
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So how are these foods in termsof micronutrients, which is
like vitamins, minerals, thosekinds of things foods in terms
of micronutrients, which is likevitamins, minerals, those kinds
of things.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh, I am so glad I brought this up and we talked
about it.
It was something I was alreadygoing to bring up, but I really
something that I read on socialmedia which then I was like, oh
my gosh, you're right Like Ishould really focus on what I'm
putting in my body, because thisis the one I got so like and
I'm 37.
And I want to feel amazing whenI'm 40, when I'm 45, when I'm
50.
And recently I've started notrecently, it's been six, seven
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months now I have a full blownmorning routine, but I would say
the last three months I startedmoving my body at the start of
my morning routine and itstarted with stretching, because
I do everything based inpleasure.
I am not going to pressuremyself, exhaust myself, suffer
at all to move my body, but Ithink, being an athlete, as you
were, I went to school on asoccer scholarship and so you
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know, working out there's alwayssuffering involved and that's
why I never really wanted towork out and I used to make a
ton of excuses as to why Icouldn't.
I have a horse, I've got kids.
If I have any free time I'mgoing to be with my horse or my
kids.
And instead I reframed that,redefined that and I started in
the morning stretching.
And then that moved into medoing some push-ups, and that
moved into me doing some lungesand squats and it's more like
(23:56):
Pilates type of stuff because Ifind pleasure in that.
But it hit me where I was likeam I going to start moving my
body at 40?
I doubt it, so I might as wellstart today.
And then it was like am I goingto start eating better at 45?
You know what I mean.
Like no, you have to startsomewhere.
And the beautiful ripple effectfor the moms or dads out there
(24:20):
is like my boys have seen mechange what I eat and it's even
influenced my husband, who wantsto then eat better and there's
something to say about that toowhere it's like yeah, we have a
smoothie, this is what's in it Isay things kind of funny
because there are three likelet's have some green ice which
are peas, because peas have somuch fiber and kids need more
fiber.
Like real talk.
(24:41):
I had to have my oldest onthese fiber gummies because this
was back in California when thenanny was feeding him awful
stuff.
So he was constipated all thetime and thank God he doesn't
need that anymore because I gotcreative and I was showing him
that I can eat these things.
You can eat these things chiaseeds, which I call, like
literally, chocolate seeds.
Like you got to get creative,but you know what I mean.
I love that, yeah.
(25:01):
So it just was like reframingthat of like, when do you want
to start feeling better anddoing those things, and is it
going to be a year from now?
I highly doubt it.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, and I will say, like these things are
uncomfortable, just like yousaid.
They're not like their habits,and these habits take time and
so you do have to invest alittle bit of time to make these
changes, but they're so worthit.
You know, I always get throughto men when I talk about like
investment accounts, because I'mlike you know, if you expect,
like, let's say, you put athousand dollars in an account
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and you want this account toreally grow, like you have to
keep putting a little bit intoit, a little bit into it in time
.
It's the same thing with yourbody and your health.
You don't need a ton, you don'tneed to put $10,000 in right
away, you need to put a littlebit every single day.
And then you look back 10 yearsfrom now and you're like, oh my
goodness, my health isincredible and that's really how
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it's been for me.
I love that 80-20 rule.
It's not that I'm perfect allthe time we keep junk food in
the house.
It's not like I never eat it.
I love my treats and sweets.
I do tend to make them a lotbetter quality with, like the
ingredients I use and how I kindof adapt and reduce the sugar,
but still it's like you know,I'm not super restrictive and I
don't think we need to be, butit's really about that time and
(26:18):
intention over that long periodof time that makes a really big
difference.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh yeah, absolutely, and y'all need to follow her.
She shares some of the thingsthat she bakes.
She should be a professionalbaker.
They're so dang cute andbeautiful and I'm always like,
can I have the recipe?
And I have all the recipes andI've yet to even try, because I
don't think I could even get.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Okay, so let's next time.
If you ask me for the recipe,I'm going to say no until you
make one of the old ones youhave now.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Deal, deal.
That sounds good.
That's so funny.
Okay, can we shift gears intomore spirituality, kind of woo
woo chats and talks, because youside note for listeners,
mary-kate has been a hugeresource in my life as I have
awakened, because you awoken,awoke, awakened much earlier
(27:04):
than I did.
You said it was like 2020?
.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I would say it was kind of like 2018 for me, but I
would say, yeah, it's.
I mean, it's been a journey fora long time for me, but I would
say, really, really big kind ofhaving these deeper, deeper
awakenings was probably about2018.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Wow, so cool.
And mine was in 2022 because Ihad Decker, and so my story my
listeners know that if theylistened for a while is I
randomly had a download, thoughtto ask for a sign from the
universe and I was like, oh mygosh, I think somebody once
talked about this on socialmedia.
Where'd I hear that?
And all of a sudden, GabbyBernstein's name got brought to
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my brain.
So another download.
So I literally was being guidedby my spirit guides to being
like let's start this.
And I got.
I asked for two signs because Ididn't know what the heck I was
doing and there's really norules, but I asked for two signs
and when I got both those signs, I was hooked.
Now can you kind of share withus how your even your, your
start happened, If you, if youcan remember?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, I'm trying to to kind of look back and
remember.
I know I had some likeinteresting, like premonition
time periods of my life where Iwould definitely say like for a
lot of people, I think theperiods of like deep depression
and anxiety kind of spark aspiritual awakening for sure.
I know that was for me likejust having like a lot of
(28:25):
uncertainties about who I am andyou know, for your listeners, I
came from a really big family,just having like a lot of
uncertainties about who I am,and you know, for your listeners
, I came from a really bigfamily.
You know, a lot of siblings.
There was just so much noisegrowing up around me and I think
I was always just an incrediblyintuitive individual.
But, like my parents, you know,like I just feel like everybody
sees like living in thephysical realm, like right, like
(28:48):
where it's like my inner worldwas not living in the physical
realm.
I don't know if this is makingsense, but no, yes, and so I
think I had to shut that down ata really young age because it
was like, oh, that's not goingto get me like the care and like
love that I need.
You know, nobody's going toreally understand this and, of
course, like I wasn't thinkingof that logically as a kid, but
it was subconscious.
So you just start to like shutdown and shift, and I think
(29:16):
there was a period of time, kindof maybe after college, that I
was like oh, like these are likeI think I have some, you know,
deeper intuitions about thingsand I kind of want to explore
that a little bit more.
But yeah we had a prettydifficult experience.
Actually, I don't know if I'vetalked about it much, but I had
a very interesting experiencewith, like a patient I had been
(29:37):
working with at the old practicethat I was working at, and I
ended up taking time off fromthis practice because I had
started my master's program andit was like so, like just too
much, like I couldn't do both.
I was like in my head all daythinking about nutrition.
I was just becoming unhealthy.
So I was like, okay, I need tolike step away from nutrition
for work and just do it forschool.
(29:57):
So I had stepped away.
And then I had this reallyinteresting dream one night that
one of the patients that Iremember working with had taken
his own life.
And when I woke up I was kindof like reflecting on the dream,
because it was.
It didn't feel like a dream, ithad felt like it felt very real
and I remember like kind oflike seeing his body like
(30:18):
floating up into the light, andit was like a very positive
dream.
It wasn't like dark, eerie, andthat was like.
I woke up feeling just likewhoa, that was very weird and I
texted one of my like oldcoworkers and I said hey, can
you check in on this patient?
I just want to like see howthey're doing.
And they like reached out tohim and, long story short, we
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ended up finding out that he didtake his own life, and that
actually did happen.
And it was right around the timethat I had had that dream and
it was horrendous.
That was very, very difficultand dark for me.
It like caused me to spiraldeep into like anxiety, to the
(31:06):
point where I was stuck in akind of horrific anxiety panic
attack for like three daysstraight where, like literally
I'm sure, couldn't drink water,my mom had to take me to the
hospital and I had to like getyou know out of in and things
that like just could kind ofpull me out of it.
So that's why I'm always likelove and respect the traditional
approach, because it's helpedme at certain times in my life
(31:27):
when I really needed it, and soI think that really sparked
something inside of me to belike what's going on?
There's something deeper here,and it kind of just propelled me
into this deep and dark spaceof just kind of questioning all
of reality, especially comingfrom a very, very like sacred
Catholic background where it waslike none of that stuff was
(31:50):
ever like looked into for me.
So it was an extremely painfulexperience because I got cracked
open to the core of everybelief that I had ever like had
in my life.
So I think that that was areally, really big propeller,
that because, like I said, Ithink I've always been on this
(32:10):
spiritual path and have hadinteresting situations when I
was a kid, but I think I triedto put myself more in the
physical world and they was likeno, you're not going to do that
and so kind of like cracked meopen and and really brought me
to the place I am today.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So yeah, and you are so talented at what you do and
like who you are today.
But, man, wow, what a, what ajourney.
And it's, you know, just forpeople to understand.
Like if you feel those nudgesor something you know, follow it
to get to where you feel mostat peace.
But I can relate to beingcracked open to your core,
(32:46):
because when I started awakening, it's hard because you can't
really go back.
And then you're like what isanything?
What is this?
What is anything?
And like that's the scariestpart.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
When you realize, oh crap, I'm not where I want to be
and I want to go back.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
but I can't that absolutely, absolutely Like.
I remember calling you, like intears, like hysterical Cause.
I was like, oh my gosh, how doI, who do I talk to about this
and all these things?
And so and I think that's likeyou put her beautifully on that
call I remember you saying it'slike your crown chakra has just
been shattered, so you have toget ground yourself, like ground
(33:24):
yourself and move through itand just like you're awakening
more and you're learning moreabout stuff and like sorry for
listeners who are like this isgoing way over my head, but I
just had to bring this upbecause I was curious how your
awakening started.
And then it is hard in thatmoment but then it becomes a
kind of a beautiful thing.
But I don't think we're alldone.
It's being human, that's whatlife's all about evolving,
(33:45):
learning, all that stuff.
I will say it has.
Once I got through all that, Inever felt more empowered when I
realized that I actually have alot more say here than I ever
realized.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, well, I think that that's the fascinating
thing about being human is we'rethese souls that are deeply
incredible and have endlessenergy and endless understanding
of knowledge, but we're placedinto these kind of bodies that
have limitations and we have torespect it.
I think one of the mostspiritual things we can do is to
be human and to be in ourbodies and to ground ourselves.
(34:20):
And I say that often to peoplebecause I've met people, because
I've been brought a lot ofdifferent people from different
walks of life.
I have individuals who are veryinto spirituality and I think I
have a very more grounded senseto spirituality than some other
people that I've met before.
They destroyed their bodies,unfortunately, because they
(34:42):
didn't respect their bodies,because they were just trying to
live out like however they theyfelt in their soul, like, you
know, playing music for you know, hours straight and not
nourishing their bodies, andlike getting to the place where
then their body has anautoimmune condition because
they didn't respect their body'sneeds.
We have to respect both needs.
We need to do what our soul iscalling us to do, but we also
(35:05):
have to respect our bodies, andI think it's that beautiful
dance in life that there's goingto be times where your body
needs a little bit more supportand you've got to listen to that
, and then sometimes where yourbody is like, okay, I can handle
everything, let's go live outour soul mission, kind of thing.
So I think that that's reallyimportant.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
That's a great tip of something I never really
thought of.
I always try to remind peoplethat we're here to be human.
That's what we're here on lifeto do and feel emotions and not
reject emotions or try to shameemotions, and it's like I think
that's one of the most spiritualthings you can do too is like
to actually feel the emotions,that motions mean nothing other
than what they mean, and thenlet it move through you and then
you're in more control and youactually feel better because you
(35:47):
actually felt the damn thing,rather than hiding from the
monster in the closet, cause youdon't want to see what it is
which is just making everythingworse.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yes, yeah, I love that and I shut down my emotions
for 20 years, 25 years.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Oh girl Same.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, so I know how powerful it is.
It was when I finally went tolike a somatic retreat where we
had this huge, like angerrelease with like a hundred
other women, and it cracked meopen to my core.
I had like a Kundalini kind ofawakening where I had all this
surge of energy and I was soscared by it I didn't know what
(36:23):
to do with it.
It like made me like feel likeI was going to throw up and it's
because when you don't feelyour energy and you suppress
these emotions, they, yeah, they, you know, are deep inside you
somewhere and then, yeah, theyall kind of came out all at once
.
And I think that was anotherlevel that cracked me open to
being like oh, what's myrelationship to my emotions?
(36:44):
And then identifying how thatactually deeply can affect your
body.
Like I see people who reallysuppress it can really affect
their digestion, because thenthe digestive tract in Chinese
medicine is what has to work onthese emotions for you and then
it can be very damaging to yourdigestive system.
Yeah, of course, oh, of course.
(37:05):
Yeah, there's other things likefear, you know, affects the
kidneys, like.
There's so many things likethat.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I love that you're saying this right now, and even
though we'd go here but I lovethat we are because my sister,
bless her heart, actually justbeat cancer.
She had lipocarcinoma, she hada 14-pound tumor in her stomach.
And my sister, whom I love verymuch she's my older sister but
she has openly admitted her lifeis not what she thought it
(37:31):
would be and she's held on to alot of resentment that manifests
into something that has to gosomewhere.
I hate to say that, but when wehold on to something for
decades and are just unhappy andwe're not just choosing a
different path, a differentmindset or whatever, it's going
to manifest into something andfor her it did, but guess what?
(37:53):
That has woken her up.
She's clean now and she's goodand she's like I'm never going
through that shit again, likethat was, and it sucks that it
has to get that far.
But I've I've heard this book,emotional anatomy.
It is so freaking fascinating.
Wherever you're having an achein your body, it can be related
to something and if you have theawareness to admit it and your
(38:13):
ego and your conscious isn'tgetting involved and acting like
no, no, no, there's just someman in the sky pointing down
saying you're bad luck.
You're bad luck.
You can be very empowered to belike okay, I'm done, I'm gonna
let this stuff go.
Money stresses yeah right.
Who cares?
I'm alive?
It could be anything Anxietyover what people think.
Who cares?
You're alive?
Who cares?
What do you think about you?
(38:34):
There's so many things youcould redefine.
You can reframe and get yourpower back, and that's what I
want for everyone in this life.
Gosh, I feel like I could talkto you forever, so y'all need to
listen to Mary-Kate's podcast.
We will link that in the shownotes, mary-kate.
Where can people learn moreabout you?
Where they can follow alongwith you?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
reach out if they want to work with you?
Where can you direct people?
Yeah, I know I would love totouch just a little quickly
because I know one thing we wantto talk about a little bit was
like the difference betweentraditional and like functional
medicine.
And traditional is definitelyall about like symptom
management, suppressing yoursymptoms.
But functional medicineespecially the functional
medicine I do is definitely aholistic approach of actually
getting to the roots of yourissue.
So you know it's a very deepapproach that I take with
(39:25):
individuals.
When you're first meeting me,you're filling out like a lot of
deep, detailed intake work.
You know, when we do blood work, the standard blood labs are a
very deep approach.
It's not just like a couple ofthings that your insurance will
cover and you don't get reallyany answers.
So that's typically.
You know what I, what I do withindividuals.
So if you're kind of looking togo down that pathway, I do
(39:48):
virtual sessions withindividuals.
I have people in, you know,many different States and
holistichealingnutritionnet ismy website so you can kind of
take a look of what I've got onthere.
I have, you know, some detailsabout my background and you know
who I help, and so that wouldbe kind of the place I would go
and have you look into if you'reconsidering that.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Awesome.
You can find that in the shownotes as well.
Anything else, you want toleave anybody with Any last
things you want to say.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I would definitely say that some really important
things are just to stoplistening to other people and
really focus on getting intoyour body and asking yourself
what you need to do.
I think that that's reallyreally critical.
I think, and also knowing too,when you ask the question, when
you ask your body, you're notgoing to get an old, like an
instant answer all the time.
(40:38):
You know you might need to waita little bit of time, but those
answers are there.
I think we need to get a littlebit better at trusting our
inner, knowing and letting us itguide us, and then also knowing
, too, that the greatest peopleyou know that we might look up
to or follow all have mentors,you know, and that's really,
really important to remember,because they didn't get there
(41:00):
alone.
They got there from support,they got there from, you know,
learning from others, fromunderstanding other people's
wisdom.
It's really, really important.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Amen.
Oh, I love that.
You just ended on that,absolutely.
Oh, I just love you.
Oh, my gosh, you're amazing.
Thank you so much for being aguest on here sharing your
wisdom.
I know this is going to landwith so many people.
I cannot wait to hear how itlands with so many people, and I
guess we'll just wrap it upfrom here.
I hope everyone has a beautifulday.
Thank you, mary Kate.
(41:29):
Thank you so much, katie.
Oh, my gosh, of course, lovedit.
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Okay, this is such an excitingday and I feel like this has
been in the works and in motionfor so long, but y'all, I have
(00:43):
such a special guest.
My sister-in-law, the badass,the amazing clinic nutritionist,
functional medicine guru, ownerof her own nutrition like
functional medicine business, ison the show with me today.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Mary Kate Hi Welcome.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm so fired up, so fired up.
Okay, so this is how I startwith everyone.
I just want to get everybody upto speed, so could you start by
telling us a little bit aboutyou, who you are, what you do,
how long you've been doing it?
That would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
I got my undergrad and mymaster's in nutrition and I have
always kind of been on more ofthe holistic route, though my
mom actually found a functionalmedicine practitioner for me
when I was about 16, because Ihad been struggling with a lot
of just symptoms that no doctorscould kind of help me with, and
(01:34):
I'm so grateful and thankfulfor my mom because they always
want to put me on likeantidepressants and things for
all the symptoms I was havingand she was like, no, we're not
going to do that.
And so she had been likereading this functional medicine
practitioners like newspaperclippets for years and love the
way he talked about the body andeverything.
So she actually took me to seehim and that was the the fire
(01:59):
that got lit underneath me forsure, because he was the first
person to actually run labs onme that were very detailed, and
he sat with me and instead ofsaying nothing's wrong with you,
he was like there's a lot wrongwith you, but I can help you,
and that was such an amazingtime in my life.
I remember and it's so funny Iremember like sitting in his
(02:21):
office and I was like I'm goingto work here one day and I did
so.
I got to work for him and hementored me for about five years
and that was an incredibleexperience because that's really
what gave me the foundation offunctional medicine.
It taught me who to study under, who's really like ahead in
this kind of world, because Idon't know how much you know,
(02:43):
some of your listeners know, butlike functional medicine it's
kind of world, because I don'tknow how much you know, some of
your listeners know, but likefunctional medicine it's kind of
interesting.
Now, like I don't love usingthe name, just because it's kind
of got distorted a little bitoh yeah, yeah.
So I would say like there'sdefinitely some amazing
functional medicinepractitioners out there that
really know what they're doing,and then some others that you
know just hopped on thebandwagon hopped on the
bandwagon, kind of doing it formoney.
(03:11):
It's very cookie cutter whereit's like the lab teaches them
how to order the lab and thenthis is the like supplements you
give them without any realunderstanding of what's really
going on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, yes, oh my gosh, I didn't know half of that,
because I knew you when you were16, which is so crazy 16.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You knew me that young.
That's crazy.
I think I did, yeah, I mean itwas either sophomore and junior
year.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I remember meeting you and your boyfriend at the
time and like it's just so, whatcrazy.
But uh, that god bless, signy,that's my mother-in-law, that's
mary kate's mom, for doing that.
Like that is so cool.
And, by the way, I did not knowthat that you like manifested
that you wanted to then workunder that chiropractor, cause I
know so much about that fromyou working underneath him.
What a cool full circle moment.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I've had a lot of little of those moments in my
life like where it's just amoment in time where I'm like
this is happening and there'slike there's nothing that doubts
my mind about it.
Like even just getting my carthe other day, like I saw one
car, I sat in one car and I waslike look at that and I got it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yes, oh girl.
We could talk about so much onmanifestation and all that I
like could go blue in the face,and I actually do want to touch
on that in this conversation too.
I feel like this is going to bean hour long, folks, so like,
buckle up.
But let's move into thefunctional medicine, because
this podcast is called.
She is redefined and it's allabout redefining everything in
(04:30):
your life redefining success,redefining your relationship
with money, redefining parentingand redefining health.
And I really want to touch onthe functional medicine because
I feel like I hear that term allthe time and I'm like I hate to
judge and I'm not judging, butI just feel like all of a sudden
it's everywhere.
So I love that.
You said that the term hasalmost been mentioned too much.
I can't remember the exact wordyou said, but like I could you
(04:52):
touch more about that and howyou are different, because
you've opened my eyes a lot tomedicine and how you work with
your clients.
Actually, that spurred thisconversation.
We were talking about one ofyour clients and you were like,
yeah, you know, she had twosurgeries for her spine and the
headaches and all the otherthings.
And all of a sudden you're like, hey, have we ever looked at
this and that?
(05:12):
And then you like saved herlife.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I'm like I'm trying to remember that exact
conversation, but I mean,there's been so many instances
like that in my life that I'veworked alongside and you know
it's really interesting.
Yeah, like, like we said, Ithink that there is a duty that
I feel like I have to make surethat, like I do things fully,
(05:35):
wholeheartedly.
I'm always like redefiningmyself, and so I love that I'm
on this podcast, because there'sbeen so many times where I'm
like I literally just sit thereand be like, am I a good person?
And I'll, like I've asked mypartner, do you think I'm a good
person?
Like I feel like I'm alwaystrying to work on those kinds of
things.
So I definitely like do that inmy business.
Like why am I doing this?
Why do I want to help people?
What is it really about?
And you know, I continue torefine it and making sure that
(05:57):
it's not something that's it'sreally about helping people
deeply.
So I think that that's reallyimportant.
I think the background innutrition that I have because
I've studied like anatomy andphysiology and like metabolomics
and like looking into yourmetabolism I feel like some
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people who get into functionalmedicine don't have that
understanding, so they don'treally understand how the body
and the metabolism works tobegin with.
So I think that that's anotherlayer that's been really
important in my life.
I think I got to work undersome incredible mentors where I
saw that they were really inthis for the right reasons and
they worked on having balance intheir life too.
So that was one of the biggestreasons I wanted to go on my own
(06:42):
in my own business was becauseI could not have a work-life
balance.
Working for somebody else Causeyou just honestly, you just
can't make enough in this world.
And at the time because again,I was doing this like 10 years
ago when medicine, likeeverybody, was like what, what's
functional medicine?
I've never heard of that termbefore yeah, I think that those
(07:03):
things have put me in a reallygood position.
And then also, having so many ofmy own experiences, I'm such a
sensitive Sally.
It's so there's so many prosand cons to that.
It's fricking, annoyingsometimes, but I love you.
It's been incredibly helpfulbecause, well, I would say in
the very beginning of my career,I was so boundaryless to a
fault, didn't know, had no ideaabout energetic boundaries and
(07:25):
things like that, and I'm stilllearning, please.
You know like I Absolutely Welland I love that.
I don't think I'll ever be ahundred percent.
You know, like boundaryless, tostop being human but um, or
having boundaries, but yeah.
So I think that in the beginningof my career was like I would
(07:45):
have a patient who was likecoming in for, let's say, like a
yeast infection or let's say,you know, I don't even know,
just some some type of thingthat they were dealing with.
That was like literally asymptom.
I would walk out of there andthen I would have it and I would
have to be like okay, and sothat taught me how to really
heal things and look into, likewhat's happening in the body,
because I was going through ittoo and so.
(08:06):
And then it was crazy because Iwould work on healing something
and then the next week I wouldhave like five people with that
same issue and I'm like I've gotyou, wow.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
What a trip.
I love that you're now bringingin the energetic side of this
and it's like, yes, withoutboundaries.
I actually just recentlyrecorded an episode it hasn't
gone live yet aboutconversations, the energy of a
conversation, and then takingthat with you throughout your
day instead of leaving theconversation there, and it
sounds like that kind of is whatyou're talking about with the
(08:37):
boundaries and how important itis in those situations.
But again, we're humans, sowe're not going to be completely
boundary life locked in.
I think only like monks arelike that or something.
But I think there's so muchimportance to then recognizing
that and not just like goingwith the victim mindset or
victimhood or whatever it's like.
Why is this happening again?
Am I cut out for this?
(08:58):
How I love that youself-evaluate.
You do a little audit, a littlecheck-in how can I be better
here?
Where's the leaks right?
And I absolutely love that andI love how what you do is you
really blend in your intuitionand y'all.
She is incredibly gifted onlike intuition and energetics.
You got to follow her, you gotto listen to her podcast, all
(09:21):
the things Like her, and I geekout every family event where I
can like talk to her about thisstuff and I think that's what
makes you, with your nutritionbackground, such a rising star
in what you do, because it's ablend of so many things and you
have such a big heart.
Like you're not in it for for,like the ego stuff, the
materialistic stuff, I trulyfeel you just really want to
serve people and help peoplethrive, feeling alive.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Absolutely.
Yeah, it's a big, big goal ofmine, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, I will say and yeah, I'm a definitely a big
internalizers, like you know asituation I internalize and I
like think about it and I, youknow, feel it.
So, yeah, I've had to startkind of, where I've actually
worked with like an incredibletherapist.
That's been very helpful tokind of redefining how I show up
(10:07):
in certain situations, Likewhen I go through something, why
I'm internalizing something tobegin with, why I started doing
that when I was a kid, like youknow, it's kind of like a safety
mechanism that we learn andyeah, so it's all about like I'm
just totally in the space ofchecking in and, you know,
continuing to shift things thatjust aren't serving me anymore
(10:29):
and aren't making me feel goodanymore.
I'm sure you can testify tothat and doing that in your life
in so many ways.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I constantly.
I love how you're talking aboutevolving and like looking at
what's going on.
Ryan like calls me like themasterful researcher, because
that's that's just how I live mylife now, where I'm like I want
to figure it out because I wantto feel like a million bucks.
That's like my new thing that Ikeep talking to clients about,
that I keep talking on my socialmedia is about like, I just
want to feel like a millionbucks.
(10:57):
So I'm not going to wait for myhusband to make me feel that
way, or for my kids or from frommoney.
I used to chase money heavilyand it was to feed my ego
because my inner child was sowounded and so I stopped that
shit.
I don't talk about money.
I talk about the growth I'vehad, because I think people need
context, but I don't even needthe growth to be feeling like a
million bucks, and that's a lotof.
(11:17):
What I think you're saying ishaving that self-awareness,
becoming self-aware, where arethose wounds, love on that inner
, that inner child and all ofthat Now shifting back into
health and medicine.
So like, like, what is onething that you would have people
start with if they were likehey, like I really want to feel
my best in 2025.
And this is outside of theaffirmations and the mindset
work Like what would you coachsomeone to do as step one?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I mean, if I'm not like working with them and I
don't know their story, it's alittle bit harder because, you
know, I have to be a little bitmore general.
But I do know one of the mostimportant things is to stop
listening to all the bullshitthat you see on Instagram of
what you need to be doing, whatmorning your morning routine
looks like.
You know, I think that gettingmore in touch with your inner
(12:03):
self, your intuition, and tryingto like basically gain that
skill, so that when you seesomething and you're like, oh,
should I be doing that, insteadof trying to think of it
logically and like you know, notbasically stepping more into
your body and being able to askyour body does this feel good to
(12:24):
me, should I actually be doingthis?
And then you'll get more of ayes or a no and then you'll know
is this something that you knowI need to be doing?
So I think just having thatinner knowing is really really
helpful in this world, becausewe have everything at our
fingertips.
That's why I think my intuitionand my practice helps me a lot,
because there's a milliondifferent paths I can go down
(12:46):
and I have to.
Someone's energy I have toassess.
You know, like when I saysomething and I can like see it
on their body or the face orenergy of, like, oh, that didn't
hit well, like okay, and then Iask him like oh, can you
actually see yourself doingsomething like that?
And then they might tell me,like actually, no, I can't.
And it's like that's reallyimportant to me because I can
give somebody, you know, ablueprint of what the human body
(13:10):
needs.
Is everybody going to do that?
Is everybody going to thrive?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
No, oh my gosh, I can relate to that in my own
business.
I can give you a blueprint ofhow to scale your business, but
without me looking under thehood and working with you and
seeing what the actualroadblocks are, you're only
going to get so far.
I love that you just said thatand I can relate you know health
to like me with business.
Yes, that's the power ofworking closely with someone in
proximity and I think that'slike the best investment one
(13:36):
could make.
And I do think there might be aparadigm shift on that, where I
feel like people were kind ofafraid to spend money on
themselves.
Or at least in my world, I'mseeing more and more people.
They're like that is the bestinvestment I can make, so I'm
going to put my money there.
I'm not going to like playaround anymore with buying this
like off the shelf, greens juiceor something.
No, I'm going to work withsomeone that like understands my
(13:59):
gut or whatever, or like in myworld, I'm going to stop buying
all the courses and enough isenough.
And I want close proximitybecause I want to go somewhere
and I want to go there fast.
I feel like I'm seeing that alot and it just jazzes me up
because we got one.
We got this lifetime right.
Like I wasn't going to say wegot this one life.
It's still like freaking how Iused to think.
I mean, that's a conversationfor a different day, but we have
(14:20):
this lifetime, so like, let'smake the most out of it, yeah,
especially as we start a newyear, you know, and so tell us
more about the topics that youlike to talk about on your
podcast and so people can likecheck it out if they're
interested.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, my podcast is called Are you Awake Yet?
And I started it because Istarted noticing a lot of people
were waking up to just how sickand money-driven our society
was.
I mean, just so many thingsright, like there's just so much
beneath the surface so itreally can cover anything Like,
for example it's so interestingto think about this kind of
(14:56):
stuff because I've always beenon like a weird train.
It's so funny because when Iwas younger, people would kind
of not like make fun of me.
I was never, like, you know,bullied, but like people would
just kind of, you know, saycertain things or like, oh,
you're interesting.
And it's so funny because nowso many people are like doing
exactly what I was doing, youknow, 10, 15 years ago.
(15:19):
But I will never forget likehaving a conversation with some
girlfriends that I had incollege about like birth control
, and you know I was the onlyone not on birth control,
literally the only person like Inever met anybody else that was
like not on birth control.
And it was just again anotherintuition that I had like, oh, I
don't think that this is right.
(15:40):
I didn't necessarily understandwhy, but I just felt that.
And I remember talking to someof my roommates at the time and
saying like, oh, I think birthcontrol is probably not good for
us.
And one of the girls got reallyupset and she was like why
would my doctor give mesomething that's bad for me?
And-.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Million dollar question.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And I, like didn't know how to answer it, but I was
just like I just had thesefeelings, you know.
So, anyways, and now I honestly, like almost every single
friend I have is not on birthcontrol Like and I'm not saying
that birth control is the allevil like, please do what you
need to do.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, I always just feel like I need to say that
because I never want to seemlike I'm.
I'm really in the middle ofmost things and will support any
person on any journey of theirlife.
But it's just so fascinatingnow that, like so much research
has come out now and so manywomen are like wait, what am I
doing?
You know?
So, and maybe it's the agegroup.
Obviously, like, a lot ofpeople in my age group are
(16:42):
thinking about kids now, so I'msure that plays a role, but it's
just so fascinating to me tosee that shift.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh, absolutely, and it's just so cool.
Your natural intuition has ledyou to all these things and then
becoming influential, but alsokeeping an open mind.
It's like you weren't tellingpeople what to do.
You were just like speakingyour truth and being authentic,
which is like amazing.
And then, and then now look atthe shift in that.
It's crazy how birth control II was not on it very long, but I
(17:09):
actually stopped taking it whenI started dating your brother,
ryan, when I was like this thingkeeps messing me up, like I'm
done with it.
So I've been off of it for like14, 15 years.
And yeah, but it's so crazyreading about things A
girlfriend I went to high schoolwith actually had a gnarly
blood clot situation happen frombirth control and then she
(17:34):
stopped it.
And it's just like it's scarywhen people prescribe these
things and you want to trustthem.
And then you're like how, likeyour friend just asked, like why
would my doctor have prescribedthis to me if it could like
hinder something or hurt me?
And like I feel like that needsto be the conversation more,
like can you awaken yourselfenough to get more in tune to
your body?
Is it a yes, is it a no?
What do you feel in your gut?
What do you feel in emotion?
(17:54):
And if you don't know anythingabout human design we have
talked about that, listeners,you know tap into what your
authority is and then, if you'renot finding it with a provider,
like yeah, it might take moretime to find a more holistic
doctor who could help you, butwhat is your life worth?
(18:15):
What's that worth?
Do you know what I mean?
It's like I think that's moreimportant rather than just like
everyone always says, they don'thave enough time, like they're
rushing through life to getsomewhere, to feel something,
all of these things, and I'mtrying to help shift that
paradigm because it drives menuts.
I have so many clients who arealways telling me Katie, time is
my issue, time is my issue, andI'm literally like we all have
the same amount of hours in theday.
Some of us might have more helpthan others, but we all still
(18:36):
have the same amount of time,and time can bend to your
reality.
It's just your mindset aroundit, and so it's like why don't
you just go the extra step tomaybe look at something holistic
or functional to help you ifyou are struggling with
something like this is just ablanket statement.
I don't know if whoever'slistening is thinking about this
, but it's always good to get asecond opinion on things.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, I mean, it's your health, like.
One of my favorite sayings isoh gosh, I've been saying it for
years and now I can't rememberit, but um, it's uh.
If you don't take care ofyourself, where are you going to
live?
You know, like you know.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I love that.
Or then, like you, your body isa temple, like we are souls who
have been put into a body.
Take care of it, cause who elsewill?
Who's going to give you thefood, the smoothie, the whatever
you know the fiber to eat?
No one is.
We're all adults so like, and Ithink that is what the biggest
reason that why my businessscaled is because I actually
(19:29):
started looking within.
I want to feel better.
What can I do to feel better?
I started silencing my mind.
I started eating foods thatmade me feel better.
There's a psychological thingwith food.
Can we touch on that at all?
Like what is your experience?
Or take on, like the foods thatyou feed your body?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I mean, obviously, I see many different
individuals, and food is a wayfor me to like connect with
these people, to give themsomething tangible so that they
can start to see how their bodyresponds.
I think that that's amazingbecause that's how it worked for
me, whereas, like my thebeginning of my journey, I was
like in the physical world, butI didn't even know that that was
(20:08):
just bringing me to my innerworld, you know.
So I think that that is so sucha tangible thing that you can
like utilize, and one thing thatI often say is like and talk
about is that you know,obviously food is life and it
has life within it, and so themore we eat processed food, the
more dead the food is, the moredead we're going to feel, and so
(20:30):
the more food you source that'salive and fresh and freshly
picked, the more alive you'regoing to feel.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Mary Kate, we can end this program.
What am I saying?
Episode, or right now?
You just blew my freaking mindwith what you just said.
Okay, let me repeat that again,y'all did you just hear this,
the more processed food you eat.
The processed food is not alive, it doesn't come from a living
thing, it's dead.
So then we internalize it,which makes you feel empty and
(20:59):
dead inside, as opposed toeating plants, things that grow
from the earth, live on theearth, meat plants, which is a
living, breathing thing thatthen you put in your body to
make yourself feel more alive.
That was amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, and that's really the first place that
somebody could start if theywanted to have a better
relationship with food.
Where's my food coming from?
How processed is my food?
What changes can I make in myday to day that would help me
get a little bit more fresh food?
So, for example, here's areally simple thing you could do
.
Let's say you ate eggs in themorning.
Can you chop up and put somefresh herbs on top of that, like
(21:37):
that's already one step of justgetting something that's alive,
ready, and like going to giveyour body some more
micronutrients.
Because really, with food, it'sdefinitely about density.
You know how dense is the foodand what we're saying when we're
saying that is how muchnutrition is actually in that
food.
You know you have a potato chip.
It's carbohydrates, you know,and there's not much else to it.
But if you eat, you know asteak, you're getting protein,
(22:01):
you're getting B vitamins,you're getting collagen I mean
the list goes on you're gettingall these micronutrients, and so
it's completely different.
So that was another thing.
In college I had a lot offriends that were weightlifters
and things like that, and it wasall about macros hit their
macros and they didn't care howthey got there, you know it was
like eating um, okay, I have toget a thousand more calories.
(22:22):
I'm going to eat Oreos, and youknow they looked great because
they were young, their bodieswere adaptable, you know, but if
they continued that for areally long time they would be
very sick, and so I think thatthat's really critical is
knowing that it's not all aboutjust calories in, calories out.
It's what's being broughtalongside these calories, which
is micronutrients.
(22:42):
So how are these foods in termsof micronutrients, which is
like vitamins, minerals, thosekinds of things foods in terms
of micronutrients, which is likevitamins, minerals, those kinds
of things.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh, I am so glad I brought this up and we talked
about it.
It was something I was alreadygoing to bring up, but I really
something that I read on socialmedia which then I was like, oh
my gosh, you're right Like Ishould really focus on what I'm
putting in my body, because thisis the one I got so like and
I'm 37.
And I want to feel amazing whenI'm 40, when I'm 45, when I'm
50.
And recently I've started notrecently, it's been six, seven
(23:13):
months now I have a full blownmorning routine, but I would say
the last three months I startedmoving my body at the start of
my morning routine and itstarted with stretching, because
I do everything based inpleasure.
I am not going to pressuremyself, exhaust myself, suffer
at all to move my body, but Ithink, being an athlete, as you
were, I went to school on asoccer scholarship and so you
(23:34):
know, working out there's alwayssuffering involved and that's
why I never really wanted towork out and I used to make a
ton of excuses as to why Icouldn't.
I have a horse, I've got kids.
If I have any free time I'mgoing to be with my horse or my
kids.
And instead I reframed that,redefined that and I started in
the morning stretching.
And then that moved into medoing some push-ups, and that
moved into me doing some lungesand squats and it's more like
(23:56):
Pilates type of stuff because Ifind pleasure in that.
But it hit me where I was likeam I going to start moving my
body at 40?
I doubt it, so I might as wellstart today.
And then it was like am I goingto start eating better at 45?
You know what I mean.
Like no, you have to startsomewhere.
And the beautiful ripple effectfor the moms or dads out there
(24:20):
is like my boys have seen mechange what I eat and it's even
influenced my husband, who wantsto then eat better and there's
something to say about that toowhere it's like yeah, we have a
smoothie, this is what's in it Isay things kind of funny
because there are three likelet's have some green ice which
are peas, because peas have somuch fiber and kids need more
fiber.
Like real talk.
(24:41):
I had to have my oldest onthese fiber gummies because this
was back in California when thenanny was feeding him awful
stuff.
So he was constipated all thetime and thank God he doesn't
need that anymore because I gotcreative and I was showing him
that I can eat these things.
You can eat these things chiaseeds, which I call, like
literally, chocolate seeds.
Like you got to get creative,but you know what I mean.
I love that, yeah.
(25:01):
So it just was like reframingthat of like, when do you want
to start feeling better anddoing those things, and is it
going to be a year from now?
I highly doubt it.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, and I will say, like these things are
uncomfortable, just like yousaid.
They're not like their habits,and these habits take time and
so you do have to invest alittle bit of time to make these
changes, but they're so worthit.
You know, I always get throughto men when I talk about like
investment accounts, because I'mlike you know, if you expect,
like, let's say, you put athousand dollars in an account
(25:33):
and you want this account toreally grow, like you have to
keep putting a little bit intoit, a little bit into it in time
.
It's the same thing with yourbody and your health.
You don't need a ton, you don'tneed to put $10,000 in right
away, you need to put a littlebit every single day.
And then you look back 10 yearsfrom now and you're like, oh my
goodness, my health isincredible and that's really how
(25:55):
it's been for me.
I love that 80-20 rule.
It's not that I'm perfect allthe time we keep junk food in
the house.
It's not like I never eat it.
I love my treats and sweets.
I do tend to make them a lotbetter quality with, like the
ingredients I use and how I kindof adapt and reduce the sugar,
but still it's like you know,I'm not super restrictive and I
don't think we need to be, butit's really about that time and
(26:18):
intention over that long periodof time that makes a really big
difference.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh yeah, absolutely, and y'all need to follow her.
She shares some of the thingsthat she bakes.
She should be a professionalbaker.
They're so dang cute andbeautiful and I'm always like,
can I have the recipe?
And I have all the recipes andI've yet to even try, because I
don't think I could even get.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Okay, so let's next time.
If you ask me for the recipe,I'm going to say no until you
make one of the old ones youhave now.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Deal, deal.
That sounds good.
That's so funny.
Okay, can we shift gears intomore spirituality, kind of woo
woo chats and talks, because youside note for listeners,
mary-kate has been a hugeresource in my life as I have
awakened, because you awoken,awoke, awakened much earlier
(27:04):
than I did.
You said it was like 2020?
.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I would say it was kind of like 2018 for me, but I
would say, yeah, it's.
I mean, it's been a journey fora long time for me, but I would
say, really, really big kind ofhaving these deeper, deeper
awakenings was probably about2018.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Wow, so cool.
And mine was in 2022 because Ihad Decker, and so my story my
listeners know that if theylistened for a while is I
randomly had a download, thoughtto ask for a sign from the
universe and I was like, oh mygosh, I think somebody once
talked about this on socialmedia.
Where'd I hear that?
And all of a sudden, GabbyBernstein's name got brought to
(27:43):
my brain.
So another download.
So I literally was being guidedby my spirit guides to being
like let's start this.
And I got.
I asked for two signs because Ididn't know what the heck I was
doing and there's really norules, but I asked for two signs
and when I got both those signs, I was hooked.
Now can you kind of share withus how your even your, your
start happened, If you, if youcan remember?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, I'm trying to to kind of look back and
remember.
I know I had some likeinteresting, like premonition
time periods of my life where Iwould definitely say like for a
lot of people, I think theperiods of like deep depression
and anxiety kind of spark aspiritual awakening for sure.
I know that was for me likejust having like a lot of
(28:25):
uncertainties about who I am andyou know, for your listeners, I
came from a really big family,just having like a lot of
uncertainties about who I am,and you know, for your listeners
, I came from a really bigfamily.
You know, a lot of siblings.
There was just so much noisegrowing up around me and I think
I was always just an incrediblyintuitive individual.
But, like my parents, you know,like I just feel like everybody
sees like living in thephysical realm, like right, like
(28:48):
where it's like my inner worldwas not living in the physical
realm.
I don't know if this is makingsense, but no, yes, and so I
think I had to shut that down ata really young age because it
was like, oh, that's not goingto get me like the care and like
love that I need.
You know, nobody's going toreally understand this and, of
course, like I wasn't thinkingof that logically as a kid, but
it was subconscious.
So you just start to like shutdown and shift, and I think
(29:16):
there was a period of time, kindof maybe after college, that I
was like oh, like these are likeI think I have some, you know,
deeper intuitions about thingsand I kind of want to explore
that a little bit more.
But yeah we had a prettydifficult experience.
Actually, I don't know if I'vetalked about it much, but I had
a very interesting experiencewith, like a patient I had been
(29:37):
working with at the old practicethat I was working at, and I
ended up taking time off fromthis practice because I had
started my master's program andit was like so, like just too
much, like I couldn't do both.
I was like in my head all daythinking about nutrition.
I was just becoming unhealthy.
So I was like, okay, I need tolike step away from nutrition
for work and just do it forschool.
(29:57):
So I had stepped away.
And then I had this reallyinteresting dream one night that
one of the patients that Iremember working with had taken
his own life.
And when I woke up I was kindof like reflecting on the dream,
because it was.
It didn't feel like a dream, ithad felt like it felt very real
and I remember like kind oflike seeing his body like
(30:18):
floating up into the light, andit was like a very positive
dream.
It wasn't like dark, eerie, andthat was like.
I woke up feeling just likewhoa, that was very weird and I
texted one of my like oldcoworkers and I said hey, can
you check in on this patient?
I just want to like see howthey're doing.
And they like reached out tohim and, long story short, we
(30:42):
ended up finding out that he didtake his own life, and that
actually did happen.
And it was right around the timethat I had had that dream and
it was horrendous.
That was very, very difficultand dark for me.
It like caused me to spiraldeep into like anxiety, to the
(31:06):
point where I was stuck in akind of horrific anxiety panic
attack for like three daysstraight where, like literally
I'm sure, couldn't drink water,my mom had to take me to the
hospital and I had to like getyou know out of in and things
that like just could kind ofpull me out of it.
So that's why I'm always likelove and respect the traditional
approach, because it's helpedme at certain times in my life
(31:27):
when I really needed it, and soI think that really sparked
something inside of me to belike what's going on?
There's something deeper here,and it kind of just propelled me
into this deep and dark spaceof just kind of questioning all
of reality, especially comingfrom a very, very like sacred
Catholic background where it waslike none of that stuff was
(31:50):
ever like looked into for me.
So it was an extremely painfulexperience because I got cracked
open to the core of everybelief that I had ever like had
in my life.
So I think that that was areally, really big propeller,
that because, like I said, Ithink I've always been on this
(32:10):
spiritual path and have hadinteresting situations when I
was a kid, but I think I triedto put myself more in the
physical world and they was likeno, you're not going to do that
and so kind of like cracked meopen and and really brought me
to the place I am today.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So yeah, and you are so talented at what you do and
like who you are today.
But, man, wow, what a, what ajourney.
And it's, you know, just forpeople to understand.
Like if you feel those nudgesor something you know, follow it
to get to where you feel mostat peace.
But I can relate to beingcracked open to your core,
(32:46):
because when I started awakening, it's hard because you can't
really go back.
And then you're like what isanything?
What is this?
What is anything?
And like that's the scariestpart.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
When you realize, oh crap, I'm not where I want to be
and I want to go back.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
but I can't that absolutely, absolutely Like.
I remember calling you, like intears, like hysterical Cause.
I was like, oh my gosh, how doI, who do I talk to about this
and all these things?
And so and I think that's likeyou put her beautifully on that
call I remember you saying it'slike your crown chakra has just
been shattered, so you have toget ground yourself, like ground
(33:24):
yourself and move through itand just like you're awakening
more and you're learning moreabout stuff and like sorry for
listeners who are like this isgoing way over my head, but I
just had to bring this upbecause I was curious how your
awakening started.
And then it is hard in thatmoment but then it becomes a
kind of a beautiful thing.
But I don't think we're alldone.
It's being human, that's whatlife's all about evolving,
(33:45):
learning, all that stuff.
I will say it has.
Once I got through all that, Inever felt more empowered when I
realized that I actually have alot more say here than I ever
realized.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, well, I think that that's the fascinating
thing about being human is we'rethese souls that are deeply
incredible and have endlessenergy and endless understanding
of knowledge, but we're placedinto these kind of bodies that
have limitations and we have torespect it.
I think one of the mostspiritual things we can do is to
be human and to be in ourbodies and to ground ourselves.
(34:20):
And I say that often to peoplebecause I've met people, because
I've been brought a lot ofdifferent people from different
walks of life.
I have individuals who are veryinto spirituality and I think I
have a very more grounded senseto spirituality than some other
people that I've met before.
They destroyed their bodies,unfortunately, because they
(34:42):
didn't respect their bodies,because they were just trying to
live out like however they theyfelt in their soul, like, you
know, playing music for you know, hours straight and not
nourishing their bodies, andlike getting to the place where
then their body has anautoimmune condition because
they didn't respect their body'sneeds.
We have to respect both needs.
We need to do what our soul iscalling us to do, but we also
(35:05):
have to respect our bodies, andI think it's that beautiful
dance in life that there's goingto be times where your body
needs a little bit more supportand you've got to listen to that
, and then sometimes where yourbody is like, okay, I can handle
everything, let's go live outour soul mission, kind of thing.
So I think that that's reallyimportant.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
That's a great tip of something I never really
thought of.
I always try to remind peoplethat we're here to be human.
That's what we're here on lifeto do and feel emotions and not
reject emotions or try to shameemotions, and it's like I think
that's one of the most spiritualthings you can do too is like
to actually feel the emotions,that motions mean nothing other
than what they mean, and thenlet it move through you and then
you're in more control and youactually feel better because you
(35:47):
actually felt the damn thing,rather than hiding from the
monster in the closet, cause youdon't want to see what it is
which is just making everythingworse.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yes, yeah, I love that and I shut down my emotions
for 20 years, 25 years.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Oh girl Same.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, so I know how powerful it is.
It was when I finally went tolike a somatic retreat where we
had this huge, like angerrelease with like a hundred
other women, and it cracked meopen to my core.
I had like a Kundalini kind ofawakening where I had all this
surge of energy and I was soscared by it I didn't know what
(36:23):
to do with it.
It like made me like feel likeI was going to throw up and it's
because when you don't feelyour energy and you suppress
these emotions, they, yeah, they, you know, are deep inside you
somewhere and then, yeah, theyall kind of came out all at once
.
And I think that was anotherlevel that cracked me open to
being like oh, what's myrelationship to my emotions?
(36:44):
And then identifying how thatactually deeply can affect your
body.
Like I see people who reallysuppress it can really affect
their digestion, because thenthe digestive tract in Chinese
medicine is what has to work onthese emotions for you and then
it can be very damaging to yourdigestive system.
Yeah, of course, oh, of course.
(37:05):
Yeah, there's other things likefear, you know, affects the
kidneys, like.
There's so many things likethat.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I love that you're saying this right now, and even
though we'd go here but I lovethat we are because my sister,
bless her heart, actually justbeat cancer.
She had lipocarcinoma, she hada 14-pound tumor in her stomach.
And my sister, whom I love verymuch she's my older sister but
she has openly admitted her lifeis not what she thought it
(37:31):
would be and she's held on to alot of resentment that manifests
into something that has to gosomewhere.
I hate to say that, but when wehold on to something for
decades and are just unhappy andwe're not just choosing a
different path, a differentmindset or whatever, it's going
to manifest into something andfor her it did, but guess what?
(37:53):
That has woken her up.
She's clean now and she's goodand she's like I'm never going
through that shit again, likethat was, and it sucks that it
has to get that far.
But I've I've heard this book,emotional anatomy.
It is so freaking fascinating.
Wherever you're having an achein your body, it can be related
to something and if you have theawareness to admit it and your
(38:13):
ego and your conscious isn'tgetting involved and acting like
no, no, no, there's just someman in the sky pointing down
saying you're bad luck.
You're bad luck.
You can be very empowered to belike okay, I'm done, I'm gonna
let this stuff go.
Money stresses yeah right.
Who cares?
I'm alive?
It could be anything Anxietyover what people think.
Who cares?
You're alive?
Who cares?
What do you think about you?
(38:34):
There's so many things youcould redefine.
You can reframe and get yourpower back, and that's what I
want for everyone in this life.
Gosh, I feel like I could talkto you forever, so y'all need to
listen to Mary-Kate's podcast.
We will link that in the shownotes, mary-kate.
Where can people learn moreabout you?
Where they can follow alongwith you?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
reach out if they want to work with you?
Where can you direct people?
Yeah, I know I would love totouch just a little quickly
because I know one thing we wantto talk about a little bit was
like the difference betweentraditional and like functional
medicine.
And traditional is definitelyall about like symptom
management, suppressing yoursymptoms.
But functional medicineespecially the functional
medicine I do is definitely aholistic approach of actually
getting to the roots of yourissue.
So you know it's a very deepapproach that I take with
(39:25):
individuals.
When you're first meeting me,you're filling out like a lot of
deep, detailed intake work.
You know, when we do blood work, the standard blood labs are a
very deep approach.
It's not just like a couple ofthings that your insurance will
cover and you don't get reallyany answers.
So that's typically.
You know what I, what I do withindividuals.
So if you're kind of looking togo down that pathway, I do
(39:48):
virtual sessions withindividuals.
I have people in, you know,many different States and
holistichealingnutritionnet ismy website so you can kind of
take a look of what I've got onthere.
I have, you know, some detailsabout my background and you know
who I help, and so that wouldbe kind of the place I would go
and have you look into if you'reconsidering that.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Awesome.
You can find that in the shownotes as well.
Anything else, you want toleave anybody with Any last
things you want to say.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I would definitely say that some really important
things are just to stoplistening to other people and
really focus on getting intoyour body and asking yourself
what you need to do.
I think that that's reallyreally critical.
I think, and also knowing too,when you ask the question, when
you ask your body, you're notgoing to get an old, like an
instant answer all the time.
(40:38):
You know you might need to waita little bit of time, but those
answers are there.
I think we need to get a littlebit better at trusting our
inner, knowing and letting us itguide us, and then also knowing
, too, that the greatest peopleyou know that we might look up
to or follow all have mentors,you know, and that's really,
really important to remember,because they didn't get there
(41:00):
alone.
They got there from support,they got there from, you know,
learning from others, fromunderstanding other people's
wisdom.
It's really, really important.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Amen.
Oh, I love that.
You just ended on that,absolutely.
Oh, I just love you.
Oh, my gosh, you're amazing.
Thank you so much for being aguest on here sharing your
wisdom.
I know this is going to landwith so many people.
I cannot wait to hear how itlands with so many people, and I
guess we'll just wrap it upfrom here.
I hope everyone has a beautifulday.
Thank you, mary Kate.
(41:29):
Thank you so much, katie.
Oh, my gosh, of course, lovedit.
Thank you so much for tuning into this episode of she is
Redefined.
If today's chat resonated withyou, don't forget to hit
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Remember, this is just thebeginning of your journey and
you've got everything you needto create the life that you want
.
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herself too.
Until next time, keep embracingwho you are, because you're
powerful, you're capable and youare redefined.
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