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October 9, 2025 56 mins

In this episode of Socially Democratic, Stephen Donnelly sits down with Chris Hipkins, the 41st Prime Minister of New Zealand, to talk about his journey from the Hutt Valley to the halls of power. ​

They dive into the highs and lows of leadership, lessons learned from nine years in opposition, and the challenges of rebuilding the Labour Party after a tough election loss.

Chris also shares his thoughts on the complexities of tax reform, the need for bold leadership to address New Zealand’s narrow tax base, and how Labour plans to tackle the cost of living crisis.

Plus, stay tuned until the end for Chris's hidden talent.

Tune in for a glimpse at what’s next for the NZ Labour campaign.

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