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February 11, 2025 41 mins

What if the most effective and fulfilled leaders aren’t just those with the sharpest strategies or the best data, but those who tap into something deeper—something instinctive? Could the true power of leadership lie in embracing intuition, somatic awareness, and the ability to create nurturing environments? What if leadership goes beyond tactics and dives into the realm of self-awareness, authenticity, and inner wisdom?


In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn and Alicia Rodriguez, a coach and consultant based in the Algarve, Portugal, discuss the profound integration of spirituality in leadership. Alicia shares her expertise on how leaders can cultivate intuition and somatic awareness guiding them through experiential learning in nature and using innovative tools like sound healing and creative exercises. Together, Andrew and Alicia explore how these practices can help leaders not only embody their values but also navigate challenges with greater clarity, confidence, and impact.


Alicia reflects on her transformative journey in Ecuador, where she learned from a shaman, and she touches on the insights found in her book, The Shaman’s Wife. Alicia also emphasizes the vital importance of rest, stillness, and creating the right conditions for success, all while inspiring personal and professional transformation.




Key Takeaways

  • The significance of intuition and somatic awareness in leadership.

  • The impact of immersing ourselves in nature on developing intuitive abilities.

  • The importance of congruence between a leader's values and actions.

  • The use of experiential learning in nature to enhance self-awareness.

  • Incorporation of healing modalities, such as sound therapy, in leadership coaching.

  • The concept of "Becoming Limitless" and transcending self-imposed limits.

  • The necessity of granting permission for emotional expression and authenticity.

The transformative power of creative exploration and reframing perspectives on challenges.

In This Episode:


  • (00:00:00) – Understanding intuition

  • (00:00:20) – Nurturing intuition

  • (00:00:35) – Podcast introduction

  • (00:01:09) – Meet Alicia

  • (00:01:33) – Value of intuition

  • (00:02:43) – Somatic awareness

  • (00:03:50) – Indigenous wisdom

  • (00:04:01) – Spirituality and leadership

  • (00:06:44) – Inner and outer games

  • (00:07:01) – Congruence in leadership

  • (00:08:39) – Examples of incongruence

  • (00:11:02) – Personal story

  • (00:14:06) – Honoring dreams

  • (00:15:18) – Greater awareness

  • (00:19:14) – Sensing and leadership

  • (00:21:12) – Developing intuition

  • (00:21:56) – Becoming limitless

  • (00:23:07) – Nature as a collaborator

  • (00:24:29) – Opening up to new experiences

  • (00:25:07) – Getting out of our heads

  • (00:25:56) – Permission to access senses

  • (00:27:54) – Curiosity and limitless possibilities

  • (00:28:39) – Imagination over knowledge

  • (00:29:06) – Emotional transformation

  • (00:29:52) – The importance of rest in leadership

  • (00:31:07) – Catalysts for personal reflection

  • (00:32:06) – Introduction to the book

  • (00:32:18) – Personal loss and career disillusionment

  • (00:34:23) – Meeting the shaman

  • (00:35:27) – Creating conditions for success

  • (00:38:11) – The book's availability

  • (00:39:08) – Sharing essays and writing

  • (00:40:48) – Closing remarks on wisdom sharing

  • (00:41:10) – Podcast conclusion


Resources and Links

Spirituality in Leadership Podcast



Alicia Rodriguez


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