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July 16, 2025 43 mins

In this episode of the Spirituality and Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Natalie Byrne, founder of the impact and communications firm, Blank Space. Natalie shares her unique approach to helping brands, philanthropists, and leaders align their values with their work, whether it's launching a foundation, shaping a brand's legacy, or navigating a company through big transitions. Her methodology, “Blank Space,” is all about clearing the noise, getting centered, and building from a place of deep intention and purpose.


Natalie and Andrew explore how spirituality, personal alignment, and humanness play a powerful role in leadership today. From her work with global companies to advising families on their philanthropic efforts, Natalie emphasizes the importance of living your legacy every day, not just leaving one behind. The conversation flows with warmth, humor, and authenticity, touching on everything from meditation and embodiment to corporate strategy and systems change. If you’ve ever wondered how your values can fuel your work in meaningful ways, this episode is full of insight.


Key Takeaways

  • Blank Space Is a Leadership Practice: Creating “blank space” means removing the noise, making room for clarity, and allowing alignment and intuition to guide action.

  • Legacy Starts Now: Legacy is not what you leave behind. It’s how you live every day. Whether you’re a parent, philanthropist, or executive, you’re always building it.

  • Alignment Beats Overwhelm: Saying no to what doesn’t align with your values opens up the space to do what matters most with impact and ease.

  • Language Shapes Leadership: Words like “climate change” or “diversity” carry weight. Reframing with inclusivity can unite rather than divide.

  • Leadership Is Human: Congruence across our spiritual practices, business lives, and everyday actions is the future of meaningful leadership.


In This Episode:

  • [00:02] Introduction and setting the stage

  • [03:16] Natalie’s path and Blank Space origins

  • [06:39] Leadership and societal impact

  • [08:32] Spirituality, alignment, and everyday practice

  • [11:09] Defining Blank Space

  • [14:23] Blank Space in action and methodology

  • [16:28] Blank Space method: process and application

  • [19:45] Legacy, storytelling, and brand language

  • [21:34] Overcoming resistance and creating alignment

  • [23:26] The power of language and framing

  • [25:12] The role of saying no and strategic focus

  • [28:29] Client examples and impact stories

  • [33:18] Spirituality, values, and inclusive language

  • [36:13] Humanness, nature, and reducing categories

  • [38:02] Opportunity for reflection and kindness

  • [40:25] Alignment, embodiment, and leading with heart

  • [41:21] Closing and where to learn more


  • Resources and Links

  • Spirituality in Leadership Podcast


    Natalie Byrne


    Andrew Cohn


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