What does it mean to lead with both purpose and integrity in a world that often separates the spiritual from the professional?
In this thought-provoking episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with John Mitchell, a leadership development consultant, coach, and fellow "recovering lawyer," to explore the intersection of spirituality, faith, and effective leadership. John shares his unique journey—from growing up in a military family with broad exposure to diverse faiths, to his current work helping leaders align their actions with their deepest values.
The conversation explores the challenges of congruence—ensuring one’s behavior aligns with one's stated beliefs—and the importance of interconnectedness as a guiding principle in leadership. John offers practical insights for leaders across sectors, from corporate executives to faith leaders, on how to navigate hypocrisy, foster inclusivity, and make decisions rooted in integrity.
Whether you're a corporate executive, faith leader, or purpose-driven professional, this episode offers powerful, practical wisdom on navigating ethical dilemmas, embracing inclusivity, and making value-aligned decisions in complex environments. Listen now to discover how spirituality can be a strength—not a side note—in leadership.
Key Takeaways
Faith and spirituality aren’t the same—but often overlap.
Congruence matters. Leadership credibility stems from living your values consistently, not just preaching them.
Leaders need mirrors. Coaches can help by reflecting back a leader’s own values—especially during moments of self-doubt or hubris.
The best leaders check themselves. High-integrity leaders actively ask, “Are my actions aligned with my beliefs?”
Inclusiveness grows from spiritual awareness. A belief in interconnectedness leads to more inclusive and effective leadership.
Discernment is not judgment. Leaders must evaluate situations with clarity without falling into prejudice or rigidity.
In This Episode:
[00:00] Introduction: Faith vs. spirituality
[03:00] John’s childhood, military upbringing, and multifaith exposure
[06:00] Spirituality through the lens of connection and nature
[10:00] Diversity, integration, and spiritual evolution
[13:00] Coaching faith leaders and guiding them through their own frameworks
[18:00] The danger of ego and the pedestal problem
[24:00] Leading with integrity—lessons from a transportation executive
[30:00] Self-checks and internal congruence as a leadership discipline
[36:00] Discernment vs. judgment in decision-making
[39:00] Leadership in law firms and the challenge of tough decisions
[41:00] Closing reflections and where to find John online
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
John Mitchell
Andrew Cohn
Music:
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Male Room with Dr. Jesse Mills
As Director of The Men’s Clinic at UCLA, Dr. Jesse Mills has spent his career helping men understand their bodies, their hormones, and their health. Now he’s bringing that expertise to The Male Room — a podcast where data-driven medicine meets common sense. Each episode separates fact from hype, science from snake oil, and gives men the tools to live longer, stronger, and happier lives. With candor, humor, and real-world experience from the exam room and the operating room, Dr. Mills breaks down the latest health headlines, dissects trends, and explains what actually works — and what doesn’t. Smart, straightforward, and entertaining, The Male Room is the show that helps men take charge of their health without the jargon.