Two artists. Two very different paths. Both worth knowing now.

In this special two-guest episode of Spout, Brenn! and Henry Morris talk about what happens when an artist starts getting the kind of attention they once hoped for, and then has to figure out what comes next. Brenn! opens up about his self-produced debut album Amateur at Best, the unlikely rise of “4Runner” to more than 130 million Spotify streams, and the backflip that left him with two broken ankles just as the song was taking off. He also explains why the social media that helped build his career became something he needed to escape, how switching to a flip phone changed his songwriting, and why trying to manufacture another viral moment may be the fastest way to lose what made people care in the first place. Then Henry Morris joins Spout as “My Girlfriend” with Ella Beau crosses the million-stream mark. He talks about the unexpected names who found his debut album Jawbreaker, learning from artists around him, life on the road with Artemas, and the new project he says is his best work yet. The only problem? He made around 50 demos and now has to decide which ten survive. Brenn! and Henry Morris are still building their stories. This episode catches both of them while the story is getting interesting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices