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June 2, 2025 27 mins

In this episode of The Follow-Up, Pastor Bill sits down with Pastor Adam and Pastor Jack to unpack the meaty truths of Romans 13. They tackle how transformation flows from God’s mercy, not our self-effort, why authentic love sometimes means hard conversations, and how we can shine Christ’s light in everyday moments — even tipping well at a restaurant!


You’ll hear practical stories, honest struggles, and actionable ways to live out your faith beyond Sunday. They also wrestle with how Christians should engage politics without losing sight of kingdom priorities.


🔥 Topics covered:

  • The difference between doing for Jesus and being with Jesus
  • How social media shapes (or misshapes) your spiritual life
  • Navigating love vs. people-pleasing
  • The tension between submission to government and allegiance to God
  • Tangible ways to show up as Christ’s ambassador at home, work, and church


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