April 30, 2024 • 58 mins
No LeBron, no KD, no Steph Curry in the post season……I guess the league isn’t rigged? On this episode we break down each playoff series and what we expect to see from Denver vs the Timberwolves next round. Oh! Respectfully D-Book the Timberwolves know how to guard you 💀.
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All right, everybody.
Welcome in Season 2, Episode 18of the Switchless Podcast.
The playoffs are in full effectand boy do we have so much to
talk about.
From the Lakers getting agentleman's sweep, Jamal Murray
sending them home yet again,this time to end the series.
The Timberwolves.
What are the Phoenix Suns donow?
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That's next up.
It's Wolves Nuggets, right?
How do we feel about it?
We need to talk about some ofthe series that have not ended,
right?
What are we going to see out ofthe 76ers?
Do they show any signs of life?
And does anyone care about therest of the series outside of
Mavs Clippers?
Because it doesn't feel like it.
Feels like there's really fourgames you have to watch, and the
rest, uh, don't even make it onTNT.
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They're like NBA TV games.
So I literally looked at thegames tomorrow and I was like,
no way.
Orlando got a primetime slot.
And then I realized it was NBATV.
And I was like, ah, you fooledme.
So let's start by talking aboutthe Lakers, uh, Roman with about
three minutes left in the gamewhen it was tied, I knew the
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Lakers couldn't win it.
It was so good.
It was just, we had the back andforth, you know, Casey P hitting
the clutch three, Austin reasonthe clutch three, like it was
just a good back and forth.
But when I saw Jamal Murray.
the possibility for a las Marietop of the key.
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We For some reason, this manturning a switch, Jamal M be one
of the best, one o comes tothat.
Like he kn So well, and yeah, hejust knows how to beat the
Lakers.
He just, he knows how to beatthe Lakers.
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He's playoff Jamal Murray.
I don't know if I've ever seen aplayer take their game to the,
to a level like this to go fromnot an all star, which debatable
whether or not you think heshould be or not based on
regular season numbers, but togo from that to this, like he
was injured.
When he does this, he looks likea, like a top three point guard
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in the league.
Like, like he, he, he sometimes,he has moments where he looks
more dangerous than JalenBrunson.
Okay.
I, when he shoots it, you just,you just think it's going in.
You just don't even question it.
I have an issue.
If you're going to sub D low outof the game and bring in Tarian
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Prince, why would you even haveAustin Reeves defending Jamal
Murray in that?
Situation.
That's what I don't understandis why would we even have Austin
Reeves in the game playingdefense on Jamal Murray?
If you wanted to switch him andput him starting out on like
KCP, Michael Porter Jr.
Maybe.
But why was he put in theaction?
Because he, he's not athleticenough.
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He's not strong enough.
He doesn't become a factor.
Like no one's not worried abouthim at all.
And there's moments where heplays good defense.
Like sure.
He keeps this guy in front ofhim and people are like, maybe
AR can really play defense, butI'm.
Austin Reeves and D'AngeloRussell are not out there to
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play defense and it shows up inthe playoffs when they get
switched off and Austin Reevesis guarding Aaron Gordon in the
playoffs.
I mean, in the post, like, yeah,it's not gonna work.
It's not how it works in myopinion.
The Lakers game came down to afew major moments.
One spread out across the entiregame is poor free throw
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shooting.
Outside of LeBron hitting thoselast two, they missed a lot of
free throws.
And you knew the Lakers weregoing to get a bunch of free
throws.
Oh, for sure.
You have to be able to knockthem down.
But they missed a ton.
We saw classic Anthony Davis,who was Cancun ready, go down
with a stinger.
That mattered.
That was a factor.
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And I just think that there aremoments where the Lakers, they
just Don't show the level ofeffort where they deserve to win
that game.
There was like LeBron James isin the key with Aaron.
Aaron Gordon doesn't box out,gets out, rebounded, and then
it's hoping that the wide openthree that they get inevitably
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off of the offensive reboundjust doesn't go in.
Like he doesn't rebound andlike, they'll call out like, Oh,
it was a great box out on Joker.
He does.
On occasion, but for the mostpart, like he's not trying to
rebound.
He's not boxing out.
He's not doing the extra things.
He, he went to push the ball tohis left hand and let you, and
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Yokage was right next to him.
Like there's just the Lakersmake these plays.
Having Spencer Dinwiddie in thegame, and he's, and for some
reason, they still let him shootthe basketball.
Like, there's just, they, theymake, they, Spencer Dinwiddie
misses two free throws, turnsaround, gets beat on defense,
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and Jamal Murray hits a three, afive point swing.
Like, there were just theseplays that the Lakers make, that
they don't deserve to be there.
They didn't deserve to win thatgame, and the Nuggets don't do
that.
The nuggets don't do it.
And you, you could even make theargument.
The only reason that the nuggetseven had to play that game is
because somebody, some equipmentmanager forgot to put their
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shoes on the right bus.
It's arguments there.
It's there.
I don't know how valid it is,but it's, I mean, it's there,
but I agree with you.
I mean, we saw the pointdifferential third quarters when
basketball games, especially inthis playoffs, just like you're
talking about, it seems like Youknow, halfway through the third
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quarter, like you played a halfof basketball, you coming out in
the second half, you're alreadya bit tired.
Uh, LeBron makes a stupid play.
Uh, Boxing out doesn't happen.
The defensive lapses that theLakers go through, like they
just, there's parts where youcan tell that they're like, Oh,
this isn't going to matter.
It's the middle of the thirdquarter.
Like it's going to matter whenthere's five minutes left in the
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fourth.
And yes, they give great effortthe last few minutes of the
game, but y'all had.
I took that plus 10 point leadin the first three games of the
series.
Like what, what happened even,even in game four, like they
blew a lead and barely won thegame.
So it's, it's almost like it wasbound to happen that they were
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going to get swept or gentlemenswept.
It's it's, it's a complete gameand they don't play a complete
game.
Michael Porter jr.
Also was lights out tonight.
Lights out.
And he has the whole series.
He just, he just was drillingthree pointers.
It felt like every game he wasgetting two wide open threes at
the top of the key off the pickand roll like wide open.
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And I don't, I don't even knowif I saw him miss one of those.
Like his three point shootingwas awesome.
on point.
He was scoring 20 plus jamalmurray was scoring 20 plus
yokich 20 plus aaron gordon wasgetting solid offensive
rebounds, solid put back pointskcp.
He was doing his thing andtonight reggie reggie reggie was
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clutch.
There was a stretch early in thefirst half where like KCP goes
down with an injury.
You don't know how healthy JamalMurray is.
The Lakers might be able to pullaway and Reggie just three
pointer midi.
It was like he did when he wasplaying for the Clippers.
Like, like what he would do tothe Lakers when he was playing
for the Clippers.
Like he just, he, he gave themthe timely points that they
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needed.
He really did.
Might've been their X factor forthe game, for real.
Before, before we talk aboutthis Timberwolves Nuggets
matchup, we need to have adiscussion first around the
Phoenix Suns and their serieswith the Timberwolves, and then
we'll kind of get into ananalysis of what we can expect
in the next round.
And let me tell you somethingright now, if anybody knows me,
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if you've listened to thispodcast, if you followed this
journey, you already know whatside I'm on, but that's a
conversation, you know, forfive, 10 minutes from now,
Roman, walk me through how thePhoenix Suns.
Right.
Devin Booker, respectfully.
I don't know how teams are goingto guard us.
How does a team like that getswept chemistry?
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I remember at the beginning ofthe season, uh, saying that this
son's team does not have alineup.
They, they, they didn't haveanybody.
I think it was what, threeplayers on their roster when
they acquired Kevin Durant.
And I think that's what it comesdown to.
You get a bunch of new playersand you build around it and you
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have to go play a series againstone of the top three teams in
the West.
That's what's going to happen.
We know that chemistry is amajor thing in the playoffs and
this team just didn't have it.
It doesn't matter what kind ofscores you put together.
You're not going to be scared ifyou can't figure it out.
And the whole point guardsituation with them, like, yeah,
I think it showed up in thisseries.
They don't have a point card.
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I mean, you had an analysttrying to say that they should
just put it in the game andstarting a point card.
I couldn't believe it when Iheard that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Awful.
This is a guy who was on a 10day contract with a bunch of
teams.
Um, but I think it's just achemistry thing.
And we, this proves that youcan't just put three great
scores together and think thatthey can work it out.
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It's not how it works.
Yeah, I, one of the things wealso mentioned throughout the
season was the, the biggestfactor on whether or not this
experiment was going to work washow many games those three
players were able to playtogether.
And it just, it was a game ofmusical chairs and one of them
wasn't going to, wasn't playing.
One of them wasn't ready to playand they just didn't have enough
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games together.
And if anybody thought BradleyBeal was a playoff performer,
You must have never heard of theWashington Wizards.
He couldn't even make theplayoffs.
And when he did, he wasn't thefirst opponent.
And when he did, he was not theguy.
So, when I look, when I look atthe Phoenix Suns, it's a great
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example that real life is not,it's not NBA 2K GM work.
You don't just buy the mostexpensive players and sim the
games, and you automaticallywin.
That's not what happens.
And I think there's also thisnarrative that these 10 seeds
had a legitimate chance, 6seeds, the Phoenix was a 6 seed,
that they have a legitimatechance at winning a title.
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It's just not realistic.
Okay?
They just, like, go back andlook at the Phoenix Suns
battling for a playoff versus aplay in spot just a few months
ago.
Like, it, it, it just, it neveradded up.
It never made sense.
And so I'm not surprised.
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And when you transition and lookat the Minnesota Timberwolves,
right, they are a great exampleof what the NBA actually is
today.
People love guards, but this isa game of bigs.
You got to have bigs to win inthis league right now,
especially in the West.
And I don't know if you can findvery many teams that are better
constructed than this MinnesotaTimberwolves team.
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They have a veteran point guardwith playoff experience.
They have an electrifyingshooting guard in Anthony
Edwards.
Michael Jordan's son, AnthonyEdwards.
The best scorer in the NBA,Anthony Edwards.
Probably the goat of the,probably the face of the league,
Anthony Edwards.
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Anthony Edwards.
Did I mention?
No.
Okay.
All right.
They have, they have, they have,they have elite defense in Jaden
McDaniels at the three.
Then they have two seven footersin Carl Anthony Towns who can
step out and shoot the three.
And both of them have beenwilling to take the challenge
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and defend the on ball screens.
When they get put in the action,they're willing to step out and
defend.
and it's an automatic mismatchon the other end.
Carl, it has been, he wasfantastic shooting the three
ball, especially in certainspots.
The close out game stands out tome and because of their scoring,
it puts Rudy in a position wherehe's not trash on offense.
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Uh, and then off the bench,you've got Nas Reed, who's
another 6 10 almost likeliterally borderline 50 40 90
guy.
You've got, um, Alexander, uh,what is it?
Alexander Nikhil Walker.
No, it's Nikhil Alexander,Nikhil Alexander Walker.
There it is off the bench who'sbeen, who's been solid as well.
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So you have, you have these roleplayers that come in.
Um, you've got slow mo KyleAnderson.
You've got, you have these solidrole players that come in, they
get their shots.
Uh, this is one of the topdefensive teams in the league,
like the defensive team.
So when you try to match up withthese guys, Like they can
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defend, they can stretch thefloor and on offense, they're
going to get the looks that theywant.
And Anthony Edwards, he was aslow burner.
Most of the series where hewould be non existent in the
first half, but they wouldeither be closer, have the lead.
And then in the second half, hewould explode 31 points in the
closeout game, just dominantperformance after dominant
performance from him, dunking onKevin Durant, like this is a
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team that really has.
All of the pieces to make a deeprun in the postseason, uh,
Roman, your thoughts on theseries overall and the Minnesota
Timberwolves.
I think you described itperfectly, uh, the way the team
is built with, I think JadenMcDaniels is the biggest piece.
Uh, wow.
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Anthony Edwards, uh, not, notlike, I'm not going to say
biggest piece, but X factor gotit.
That's that's that's accurate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, it to be beginning of theseries.
Uh, I mentioned the thing thatAnthony Edwards said about.
Well, uh, they have Katie, butwe have Jade McDaniels.
Uh, they didn't even put him onKevin Durant.
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Uh, Kat was guarding KevinDurant.
And I think that shows theversatility of this team
defensively is they, they canjust be like, we'll, we'll put
him on Devin Booker, Kat cantake Kevin Durant.
Yes.
Kevin Durant is going to go forhis points.
He's going to get his buckets.
But like we saw what happened.
They got 4 0, they couldn't evenwin a game.
And that's because of this,this, uh, Defensive standard of
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this team.
And for the longest time, I wasthinking Mike Conley might be,
uh, a factor for them, likedefensively, but I mean, they
are just holding their ownregardless.
They're hitting the shots thatthey need to hit.
Like they just four owed a teamthat there's no reason that team
shouldn't have been able to winone game.
Like we saw glimpses throughoutthe regular season of what
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Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, andKevin Durant could have looked
like.
And the Timberwolves justabsolutely destroyed that idea,
just demolished it.
So, like you said, I think thisteam has a great fit, but
unfortunately, they're going torun into somebody here in the
next round.
Yeah, so, so, but kind of beforewe get into this, a couple more
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things I just wanted to say, andto your credit, saying that
Jaden is the X Factor, it'sbecause, like, defense doesn't
show up on the stat sheet.
No one, no one cares to listento analytics guy talk about
opposing field goal percentageother than like if it's Luka
Doncic, because like the beliefis that he doesn't defend.
Um, there, there was a, and it'snot just individual defense.
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There was a specific possessionin the second half of the
Timberwolves game where it was afull five man rotation.
Where like they send the doubleto Devin Booker and every single
guy rotated and it gave Conleyenough time to get to the
opposite side corner becauseBooker was at the wing and then
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he tipped the ball and they gota turnover like it was, it was
literally perfect team defense.
And I'm not saying that theTimberwolves play perfect team
defense all the time, that's notwhat I'm saying.
But they play team defense at ahigh level.
And Anthony Edwards, hegalvanizes that team.
They know he's the guy.
And he comes to play.
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He's gonna, he's going to He'sgoing to do the, he's going to
do it to the fans.
He's going to call out theplayers and then he backs it up.
And so I genuinely think thatthe best series that we may
watch in the post season isgoing to be Timberwolves versus
Denver.
And there's no better time to bethe Minnesota Timberwolves
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because the Denver nuggets arenot as healthy as they're going
to look on paper.
They're not as healthy as whatyou just saw tonight.
Ladies and gentlemen, they'renot.
You don't think Jamal Murraythat calf issue is not going to
be a thing?
Good luck in the action tryingto defend Anthony Edwards.
KCP already is dealing withstuff.
So is Reggie Jackson.
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He's dealing with stuff.
Like, this is the type of teamthat you do not want to play if
you're banged up.
I believe, and I know, this isgoing back on my pick going into
the postseason.
I'm making a switch.
I'm calling something that'snever happened before.
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I have the MinnesotaTimberwolves beating the
Nuggets.
I have them beating the Nuggetsin six games.
I have the MinnesotaTimberwolves going to the
finals.
I believe that the MinnesotaTimberwolves are positioned to
win the finals.
This series, there's, they matchup at every position.
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They can put a seven footer onAaron Gordon instead of someone
that's about the same size.
They can put us to, they can puta seven footer on yoke.
Itch.
They've got guys who can takethe challenge off the bench and
they can score the ball at anelite level and really push the
Denver Nuggets to their limit.
And Denver doesn't have thebench that they did last year.
Denver last year beats Denverthis year, and Minnesota this
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year beats Denver this year.
No, nope, because you'reforgetting one thing.
Nikola Jokic owns Rudy Gobert.
Absolutely owns the man, hecannot guard him.
And if he matches up againsthim, Jokic is going to average a
40 point triple double.
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So, I'm with you on six games,but I'm just switching it to
nuggets.
I'm taking the more experiencedteam.
Sometimes it's hard for me tolook at you and like think that
we're brothers because you just,you say things that are just so
wrong.
How is that wrong?
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I was, I was in person for RudyGobert versus Nicola Jokic in a
basically deciding game for theone seed.
One of those games.
And, uh, I remember Nicole Yoicputting up, uh, I think a 40
point almost Triple double, andRudy Gobert complaining the
whole game.
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I, I remember this, I think, Ithink that was right.
The regular season doesn'tmatter, Roman.
Okay.
It does win.
Uh, the seeding is on the line.
Well, I, I could tell that,that, that, that felt like
playoff basketball.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think, uh, I think, I thinkthe two rules were pretty happy
when they swept the Phoenix sunsbeing the three seat.
Um, just saying, just saying, Ithink that they're going to,
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that the one thing that scaresme is the fact that I have to
put my faith in Rudy go bear tostop Yokage.
That is, that is mortifying.
That is mortifying.
Um, it, it almost makes me assick as when people say that
Rudy go bear should be a hall offamer.
Um, wow.
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Wow.
Well, we have our, we have ourpredictions for that series.
Uh, I feel like Timberwolvesdeal one of the first two games
at home, but then it's justNicole Okic just takes over the
series because he knows how badRudy Gobert is.
in a half court defense and hecan just take advantage of that.
Okay.
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I'm going to call the seriesright now.
Here's how it's going to go.
Timberwolves come out and theypunch Denver in the mouth early.
They're fired up and Denver's alittle bit on like not super
healthy.
Minnesota wins game one and thenDenver wins back to back.
They win game two and they wingame three.
Minnesota equalizes game fourand then wins game.
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Well, this is, this is where itlike, we're, we're, we're going
to have opposite opinions here,but then whoever's winning that
series wins games five and six.
That's how I, but I, the firstfour games, I think it's going
to be Minnesota, Denver, Denver,Minnesota.
That's how I have the first fourgames going.
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I say it goes, uh, Denver,Minnesota, Denver.
Minnesota, Denver, Denver.
Got it.
So you've got it just, it'sgoing to be one, one, two, one.
It's going to be one, one.
It's going to be one, one, two,two, then two, four.
That's got it.
So we're trading haymakers andthen we get late in the game and
just they, Minnesota can'tcontend.
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And, and this is, this isbarring no injury, no major
injuries.
Okay.
For the people that were in ourcomment section or saying
different things, because thebucks, like.
more injured than we thoughtgoing into the postseason.
I just don't want to hear it.
Like, go talk about a legitimateseries.
All right, that's, I'll just saythat.
I'll just say that.
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So this is barring health, but,um, and they're going to have a
lot of time to rest too now,because we have to watch the
rest of these first round seriesbefore we can commence the
second round.
So no, it's true.
I have up to a week off.
It's true.
The Timberwolves needed theLakers to win and it just,
there, there was no way.
There, there was, there wasliterally no way.
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So you're telling me based onwhat you've seen Denver do, you
have faith in that team?
Yes.
The champions of the league lastyear.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
You don't, not, not even alittle bit, you don't, not even
a piece of you is afraid ofAnthony Edwards.
Not at all.
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Not really.
I've got KCP.
They've got KCP and JaydenMcDaniels.
I mean, they got, they got KCPand Aaron Gordon.
I mean like I like him.
I like him.
And Michael Porter Jr.
is not a bad defender.
Like, people want to act likehe's a bad defender.
But like, everybody in thatlineup plays defense.
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Yeah, but this is AnthonyEdwards.
I don't deny that.
But this is the champions.
This is the Nuggets.
It's a, it's a new season.
All right.
It's going to have his points.
He might get the same averagesthat he did last series.
But I think it's going to end inan L.
I think he's going to drop 36 ingame one.
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Timberwolves win.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Let us know in the commentsection who you've got winning
that series.
I want to know, are you backingme?
Are you on the money side, thesmart side, you know the
Timberwolves?
Or do you want No, you go sideor the Roman side, or do you
wanna be on the, which I favor.
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Do you wanna be on the Romanside picking the Denver nuggets?
Just going.
Do you wanna be on the side ofthe, the former champions or the
young team who could surprisesomebody?
I don't know if you're, ifyou're playing at risky, you
might want to go with him.
But if you, if you know how theNBA works, you might want to go
with the Roman Romans, the S andP 500.
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And I'm crypto I'm Bitcoin,Minnesota's Bitcoin, right?
You might make a lot of moneywith this guy.
This is, this is the firstseries they've won in 20 years.
Okay.
This is, this is Bitcoin.
On the rise, right?
Bitcoin just cleared 40k andlike you're hoping it's going to
clear 60, and I've been holdingBitcoin forever on those.
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I've been, I've been, uh, I've,I've, I've, I'm one of the only
investors in the Tempered WolvesLLC, and I've got them, I've got
them.
Cashed out right now.
No, no, I'm, I'm, I'm doublingdown, double down, triple down,
risk it all.
Okay.
You can't, you can't affordanything in America unless you
take major risks that could justmake it sure you lose literally
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everything.
And that's what the Timberwolvesare.
And Switchless podcast is, we donot give out financial advice,
but, but I will just say this.
But he does, but he does.
That is not how I invest in mypersonal life, but in terms of
basketball, there's never been abetter time in my adult life to
back the Minnesota Timberwolvesright now.
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This is childhood Moses livingout his dream.
It is.
This is the best it's ever been.
Okay, so let's let's transition.
Let's talk about the Clippersand the Mavericks, where the
Clippers look better when Kawhidoesn't play.
And Russell Westbrook has beenan abject disaster on the
basketball court.
Uh, the Mavs Kyrie has made someimpossible shots.
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Luca has been okay.
I don't, I don't think thatLuca's really played to his
level personally.
I'm not saying he's not showingup for the playoffs.
Luca has plenty of playoffmoments just up to this point in
the series.
I believe that Luca has anothergear that he could reach.
Uh, Paul George.
Was insane last game, but theClippers were up 31 points and
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literally like almost lost thegame So what do we how do we
make sense of this series?
Like what is going on right now?
You can't because at first itwas, okay, well Kawhi's out,
this doesn't look good.
But this just gave theopportunity for James Hartman
and Paul George to thrive.
I mean, you saw Paul George takeover the first half of that
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game, but then he just kind ofwent away.
But then, do you see how manyfloaters?
James Harden put in at the endof the game.
It was like five.
It was like, I think it was fivestraight in the court.
Yes.
Ten straight.
But like, yes, he just left handforward, left hand forward.
It might be the best shot in thegame right now.
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Like it is him and Brunson,dude, him and Brunson.
It is unstoppable.
He just, he just drops it off,just drops it off.
And Won them the game and nowthe series type.
If that doesn't happen, like ifhe doesn't take over, this is a
three one series right now andwe're basically saying it's over
a hundred percent, but now it'stwo, two.
We're headed back to la.
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It's very easy for them to just,James Martin just take over and
have 25 in the first half, andPaul George goes for 30 in the
second half and.
It's game over.
So this series is just sounpredictable because at the
same time, I mean, Kyrie isputting up a 40 point game and
it's super quiet because this isbasically Lucas team and the
role players are working out.
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So this, this is completelyunpredictable.
I think I had, I think I saidClippers in seven.
So I'm going to stick with itand say that happens.
But again, the uncertainty inthis series is all over the
place.
It has been one of the mostinteresting series because one
game you're like, okay, thisteam has got it.
And then the next game you'relike, no, they don't.
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Yeah.
And you shouldn't play Kawaiiuntil you need to.
Keep them out.
The inflammation is always goingto be there.
It seems like so.
Hey, see what, see what happensin game five.
Let's roll the freaking dice.
Let's roll the dice.
Let's roll the dice.
Now I do, I do.
I do believe that the Mavericksrole players are far and away
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outplaying the Clippers roleplayers.
I think Zubox has been good, butPJ Washington has been great.
I think Gafford, barring theinjuries he's kind of dealing
with has been solid.
They're back up center.
Lively.
He, he rook, he plays hardpause.
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Rook had some very clutch plays.
Yeah.
He, he takes the challenge andhe's not backing down from
anybody.
The, the, the, the Mavericks arenot backing down from anybody.
Like this is genuinely a goodseries.
If the Clippers role players, Imean, Norman Powell, he's, he's.
He's just a solid bench player.
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He's a solid player.
He's going to hit the three.
He's going to, he's going tojump three feet in the air and
hit some, hit some big timethrees.
Like you just know it's going tohappen.
Uh, but man, it's just, it'sjust fun to watch.
I also have the Clippers infive.
I think, or sorry, I have theClippers in seven.
I have them winning game five.
That's what I meant to say.
I have Clippers in seven.
I have them winning game five.
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Uh, but a great series to watch.
You're going to see some greatshot making.
Uh, I mean the Paul George stepback three.
Almost looked like it was fromthe side of the back.
Like it went over the backboard.
It was just, it was a crazyshot, just a crazy shot.
It's must see TV and anotherseries that's must see TV right
now is the 76ers Knicks series.
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Like the three one that we'relooking at right now.
It doesn't feel like it's threeone at all.
And it also feels like everygame has been a home game for
the Knicks.
Uh, but Jalen Brunson, ladiesand gentlemen, Jalen Brunson is
the truth.
He's here.
He is the life.
He might be Luzon Al Gaib.
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This guy is the savior of theNew York Knicks.
They finally gave him his owntheme.
Could you imagine if somebodylike him and Luka played
together?
Oh, dude.
Him and Luka?
Would have been crazy.
No, but, but for real, I mean,it just seems like, When Brunson
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gets an isolation, it just feelslike he's going to score every
time.
Like if he gets in the paint,whatever he throws up is going
in.
And again, it definitely feelslike this is a two, two series
because of how much the 76ersgot screwed.
Um, and they probably shouldhave won a game and it should be
two, two.
And again, it's just wild howmuch one game can affect a
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series.
The difference between two, twoand three, I mean, yeah, two,
two and three, one is.
Unbelievable.
But the Knicks players areshowing up.
Josh Hart is, I mean, he saidthis in his podcast.
He's just there to be in thegame and mess everything up.
And yeah, he does exactly that.
I think he had 15 boards lastgame.
Just all the offensiverebounding for the Knicks has
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been elite.
He gets so many boards.
I think was the perfect pickupfor this team.
He just, he just ties everythingtogether.
Just ties everything together.
Devin Chenzo is More confidentthan any role player I've ever
seen taking a three point shot.
Like they just look good.
I mean, Hardenstein's been greattoo.
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Yes.
Yes.
He's been solid.
He's been solid.
The man had five fouls in onequarter.
Yes.
Yes.
And you, you, you look at thatand you, you hate to see it, but
I genuinely think the effort'sbeen there and he's had a decent
floater that he's been able tohit consistently.
I think Mitchell Robinsongetting hurt was the best thing
that could happen for thembecause now they have two bigs.
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Who are experienced playing withthis team and, and Mitchell
Robinson's not like, he's not ascoring threat outside of like
the lob, like the Hartenstein,he's able to hit like that six
to eight foot put shot.
He's got his pushback.
He does like he'll, he'll hitthat.
I don't think there's a teamwith more chemistry than this
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next team in the playoffs, butyeah, sure.
But like the, the nuggets,there's like a, there's like a
cool factor where they've beenhere before.
Like they're, they, they sitalone as champions of the league
where the Knicks in terms ofeverybody that's fighting to
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steal the crown, they just are,they did, they move as one dude.
And they play hard every, everysecond of the game.
Tobias Harris has been adisaster.
He's been awful.
He has been garbage and Maxie.
I'm not going to say Maxie hasbeen bad, but he just makes
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foolish plays.
He just has moments where I, hisdecision making is just not
there.
And I'm like, dude, the ball'sin your hand, man.
This was his opportunity.
Like you, you, you really, hejust.
He makes plays that you justscratch your head a little bit.
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And I mean, I don't personally,I've never been a fan of Kyle
Lowry.
I don't love watching the waythat he plays basketball.
I, I, I don't like, I don't likewhen people are like, look at
how smart this player is andthey're flopping.
I just, that's not reallysomething that I can get behind.
Um, do I think the Sixers canwin a game?
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Maybe two?
Sure.
Are the Sixers going to win thisseries?
No.
No.
Like, Joel Embiid is dealingwith Bell's Palsy.
The guy can barely blink.
Blinking with one eye, guys.
And he's, dude, he's a house ofcards, dude.
Every time he falls, he'sgrabbing the knee immediately.
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Also, the Sixers are just, like,they're not And I'm surprised,
from a Knick Nurse team.
But they just, they're likeerratic, overly emotional.
They're not like, especially alot of complaining this year, a
lot of from across the board,but also like in bead, he's
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like, you know, he's hittingpeople a little bit more than he
needs to.
He's given a little bit extra onthe screens.
He's, he's.
It just feels like they're outof control.
And I, and I genuinely thinkthat's one of the major, uh,
reasons why you're going to seethe downfall of the 76ers.
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Well, another thing with them isthey do this mid season
acquisition to get buddy healedand they haven't used him.
Yeah.
He basically went out of therotation and I mean, yeah, he
wasn't playing well, but that'sa guy, if he gets streaky can
basically win you a game.
And why, why would you not,especially, especially while I'm
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bead was out and they werelosing games.
Figure it out.
You got to figure out the, yougot to figure out a way to keep
this guy involved because nowthis is where you need the
shooting and, and this is not aknock to Kyle Lowry, but you
could also use some of the sizebecause you're getting beat on
the boards like crazy becauseyou're running double point
guards.
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Campaigns.
It's not going to cut it.
Campaign of Kyle Lowry is notgoing to cut it.
No, dude.
Josh Hart's a dog.
Dante DiVincenzo is a dog.
Jalen Brunson is a dog.
Okay.
Like there is a few teams thatare just filled with defensive
teams and I, the Knicks are oneof them.
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I do still think the Knicks aregoing to run out of gas because
Tom Thibodeau is an idiot interms of how he manages people's
minutes.
But uh, but what a time, what atime to be a Knicks fan because
you're, you're, you're, you're,you're playing the Pacers next
round.
Like you feel pretty good.
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You could make a run and getclubbed by the Celtics.
Like you could make a run.
It's going to be fun.
What a time.
Eastern Conference Finalsthough.
I know.
You're a top four team in theleague at that point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, and the Knicks, they'regonna, they're gonna have a
whole lot to say.
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They're gonna have a whole lotto say.
Stephen A.
Smith will not let that go untilthis time next year.
Stephen A.
Smith said today that he, thatDevin Booker wants to play for
the Knicks.
How did you get away with sayingthat on national television?
It's because he can sayanything.
I hate ESPN, dude.
Gosh, they're so bad.
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It's so awful.
And no, JJ, we're not talkingabout you, we're not talking
about Richard Jefferson, butjust, ugh.
Yes, there's a few bad apples.
Yes, and they just, they'relike, they really have ruined
the barrel.
They've ruined it.
Like, when I see that it's anESPN day, or there's like three
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ESPN games, I'm like, whichone's gonna be Hubie?
Terrible.
Nobody, like, I, I don't, is itDisney?
I don't, I don't.
How they must have been tryingto clean up their image and they
had to go for a 95-year-old todo it.
They just, like we, you'retelling me, we fired Mark
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Jackson and Van Gundy and wekept that guy.
We kept the guy who should havebeen retired probably 15 years
ago.
Yeah.
Like, it's just, I'm sick ofthis, just describing like how
it feels to be a fan of theteam, like commentators supposed
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to tell me what's, what's goingon, you know, go through some
facts, some stuff that's beengoing on during the game, but.
It's just Huey Brown's justlike, okay, this is what just
happened.
If a team goes on a run, helikes to talk about it for about
20 minutes.
Like he's, and, and it's, andthis is an eight to run.
And when it's an eight to run,the game is tough.
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It's so tough to play basketballwhen you're facing an eight to
run.
Now, what you have to do whenyou get the ball is you got to
run the pick and roll.
This is what he loves to do.
If you're a Fox twins.
He spins back inside, and ifyou're a Bucks fan, you've seen
this a million times.
He's gonna spin back inside andshoot the jump shot.
But if he misses, and it's a 102 run, then what do you do?
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Maybe you call a timeout, I'mnot sure.
That's exactly what it is.
If you're a Bucks fan You lovethis right now because since the
first quarter, this team hasgone on a 30 to 15 run.
And he doesn't, and he doesn'teven stop for a made shot.
He's like, yeah, and then theMiddleton, you made a shot right
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there.
But, uh, anyways, and then Marktries to bring him back.
And he's like, deep in his back,like the fries are at the
bottom.
Or he wasn't, the bank wasn'topen.
He was, this was cash app, butI'm sure Hubey's just sitting
there like, what are the, whatis this guy talking about?
And the Clippers are going toset sail like the Clips.
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They really are.
We're going to eclipse theDallas Mavericks in this game.
The scoring has beenunstoppable.
Next time you watch this guy, Ijust want you to listen to how
hard he pushes his vocabulary.
He just.
Vernacular on another level.
It's, it's unbelievable.
Vernacular on another level.
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We've talked enough about theannouncers.
Indiana, Indiana Pacers and theMilwaukee Bucks.
Uh, who's gonna get blamed forthe Bucks falling apart?
Like, is anyone to blame?
Are we, are, are, is Too manypeople to blame at this point.
Really?
Too many?
The coaching decision was, wasawful.
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And I'm sure somewhere down theline, we'll learn something that
Adrian Griffin had done, orthere was a major reason that he
got fired.
Oh yeah.
You know, he said something toJanice, but I need to know what
happened.
I need to know what happenedbecause the second team, I think
they were the second team in theEast and they fired their coach.
And I mean, Doc Rivers has had alosing record as the coach.
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Yeah.
Um, but yeah, it's just soimportant.
I feel bad for Bucks fans.
Your, your franchise player ishurt.
I mean, not surprised.
This is what happens to Giannis.
He plays like a maniac, dude.
You go out and get DamienLillard.
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injury and you get beat by ayoung Pacers team.
Maybe, maybe Giannis shouldlearn how to shoot the ball so
that he doesn't have to playlike drive 100%.
Yes.
And fall all the time and getelbowed and beat up through the
season and then complain thepostseason.
Maybe he should do that in thepostseason.
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And not for 80 games.
This is going to be Giannis'sthing.
It's In the next couple ofyears, we'll have one more
healthy season and they mightwin a championship.
And then it's, it'll be one ofthose big what ifs, like if
Giannis just could have stayedhealthy and he'll have two rings
and if he'll have some of thecraziest stat lines, craziest
averages.
Just a guy who could never stayhealthy.
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I think at this point though, ifyou lose this next game, you
really got to cycle out some ofthese guys, like the old, old
bench guys, it's over.
I don't know if you do theBrooke Lopez, Bobby Portis thing
again.
I'm not saying you have to getrid of both, but like you're
moving on from somebody likethey could get a lot for that.
They need to, they need tobreathe some, some life into
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this franchise.
Uh, they're old.
I think they're the oldest, oneof the oldest rosters in the
league.
Uh, and it shows and it showsbecause all those players aren't
playing and Wow.
It's what a bummer that theshots that Middleton hit to keep
them alive and then to justlose.
And I love that it was Pat Bev,Mr.
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Defense that just got completelyexposed, exposed.
He got crossed.
He jumped.
He got classic so bad.
He jumped and he fouled him.
Game winner.
Yes.
And then, and then Rand fouledhim and pointed to everybody
else.
Like he wasn't the one that gotjust cooked.
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That's what happens when PatrickBeverly is your starting point
card.
A hundred percent.
No.
A hundred percent.
100%.
So like Bucks fans, it's toughbecause I, I this, that, that is
a team that I genuinely thinkcould give the Celtics a series
because Giannis is elite, but.
We've seen how this goes whenthey end up in situations like
this.
We saw it with Miami.
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If they bring Giannis back andthey win a game, they don't win
game six.
He can't do it again.
He can't do it again.
Like he's just not healthyenough.
And with the calf strain, youstart worrying that you're going
to find yourself in a KevinDurant situation, where he's
going to tear his Achillesbecause you rush him back or
something else is going to tear.
And for Giannis, who relies onhis athleticism, a tear is a
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much bigger issue compared to aKevin Durant.
Okay, we've got Orlando and theCavs, which was looking like it
was going to be a sweep untilthe series shifted to Orlando
and all of a sudden the kids,the kids are performing.
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This is a series and it's just,I think half of the games, they
just don't televise them because90 percent of the people
listening haven't even seen aminute of the of the series.
Nope.
But, okay, I, we talked abouthow the Knicks are one of those
teams.
I love watching the Magic play.
They give so much effort.
Like, uh, Gary Harris and JalenSuggs are like just two of my
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favorite players right now.
They're everywhere on thedefensive end.
They're energy guys.
Uh, Paulo is performing verywell.
Uh, the Wagner brothers areproviding so much energy for
this team.
Like, this is one of the youngteams that is just, they're just
playing well.
They're just playing well, andthey're giving the Cavs a run
for their money.
The brothers are kind ofannoying.
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I don't need the, like, They'rea little extra and they don't,
they haven't earned the rightto, to kind of do that.
Um, they're basing this all ofthe, all off of their, uh, their
feeble in.
So, so like that, I'm like, youtwo are just like annoying, but
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dude, if Donovan chokes, if hechokes, Oh, Oh, what do the
calves do?
Oh, they trade Donovan probably.
If he can't make it out thefirst round, but even this is
scary to let this team win.
Win two games?
Yeah.
And, and not just win two games,like the convincing fashion,
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like they, they have beat thetar out of them.
Shut them down.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
Game, game game five, you gottahave NBA TV to watch it but
it's, uh, it's to watch theplayoffs.
Yeah.
To watch the frickingpostseason.
But it's, it's gonna be a decentwatch.
So I'm on the Orlando side inthat series.
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You're still on the Cavs, youwanna make a change or you, uh,
you stick'em with Cavs?
No, I'm still going.
Cavs in seven.
But it, it hurts me because Ireally do.
You know, Pat Riley said thatit's not a series until the team
wins on the road.
And that's definitely the casefor this one.
It is not a series yet until wesee someone win on the road.
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Celtics, Celtics are absolutelydominating the Miami Heat.
It's no surprise.
I think no one's shocked thatMiami was able to pick up a
game, but it's just notcompetitive.
I mean, when Derek White isdoing it, doing what he's doing,
um, it's scary.
I didn't see if Chris HapsPorzingis came back after his
injury.
That's probably the only thingthat's scary right now was it
was a non contact injury.
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Lower leg is what it seemed forPorzingis.
That's a major, major loss forBoston.
Well, yeah, huge.
I'm putting up almost 20 pointsa game for them.
And as much as Al Horford canhelp them, he's getting really
old.
He's been playing backupminutes, which is where he's
good now, and they can reallyhurt them in the long run, like
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Eastern Conference Finals comesup and they don't have Chris
stops.
And like you said, it was a noncontact injury.
This guy might have a Strain,tear, like he could be out for
weeks, which could really hurtthem.
And if nothing else, it hurtstheir chemistry when he comes
back too.
So yeah, it's something to keepan eye on.
He's, they won't need him to winthe East, but if you see Denver
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without him, Minnesota withouthim, you're going to be in
trouble, dude.
You're going to be in trouble.
Who's their backup center withtaking a spot?
Exactly.
That's a, that's a littlecornet.
Yeah.
Bad.
Mr.
Guard, three pointers.
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He was getting minutes.
He was getting minutes.
He, he, he was as a backup.
The other, uh, the, the lastteam, Oklahoma city completes
the sweep.
They, they swept the Pelicans,uh, who get to head their way to
what gap, what, what was it?
Galveston.
There's that's what CharlesBarkley was saying.
They're going to, they can goswim in that dirty water on the
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beach, on the beach.
Uh, Charles, the nationaltreasure, Oklahoma city.
They, they, they really put themaway.
It was a shame.
We didn't get to see ZionWilliamson because I really
think that would have made it aseries.
But, uh, at this point, itdoesn't feel like Brandon
Ingram's game really fits intoday's NBA.
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Uh, and I've, I've kind of beenon this for.
45 years.
It's not that he's not a solidplayer.
He can't score the ball, but amid range reliant player similar
to phoenix had three mid rangereliant players.
Uh, I just don't think his gamein particular and how slow he
plays and just slows down theiroffense.
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I don't think it was conducive,um, for putting together a
winning formula against a teamlike OKC.
It's good for some regularseason takeovers.
Yeah, that's, that's about it.
But the thing with this seriesis I'm just confused.
Is OKC this good, or were thePelicans just that bad?
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Was CJ McCollum just that bad?
No, CJ was not good, and I thinkthe Pelicans are just not good.
Like, wait till they play theClippers or the, like, the
Clippers or the Mavericks.
I think one of those teams isgonna come out and absolutely
punch them in the mouth.
They're gonna punch them in thefreaking face, dude.
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Early in the series, likethey're gonna throw, punch'em,
gasping for air.
Consistent.
Okay.
See is, I can't say it enough.
They are just consistent aroundthe board.
They have great coaching, theyhave great rim protection.
They finish at the rim, theypass the ball, well, they shoot
the ball, they get to the line,they, they just.
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They play so many guys, theyjust, they know what they're
doing and it's, it's interestingto see.
And they, they, their rotationis huge.
I think they have the deepestrotation of any team in the
playoffs.
They're still playing.
They're like 11 players in thefirst half.
Yes, yes, yes.
They're playing, everybody'splaying and everybody's
contributing.
It's not like anybody just fadesoff in like the sunset.
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Like everybody shows up, you'vegot your three point shooters.
You've got your guys that aredriving to the basket, driving
kick.
You've got your defensivestoppers, like everybody's
showing up, taking the challengeand enjoying it, enjoying every
minute of it.
And they have some, I guess, acouple of beds to look over.
You see Bismarck on the bench.
You see Gordon Hayward getting afew minutes of game.
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Like sure.
You've got a couple of olderguys like this and they're going
to be rested, be a scary team.
Yeah.
They're going to be rested.
If the Maverick series goesseven, that's, that's a lot of
rest.
It's a lot of rest for a youngteam.
Who has never seen a secondround of a playoffs and really
has no fear who is going to havehome corn advantage, valid,
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valid.
And so that kind of rounds out alot of what, what the playoffs
have been.
I think, you know, I think wereally covered it where if
you've missed any of theseseries, if you've missed any of
these games, our hope is youwere able to pick up, pick up on
a gem or two that allows you to,to better look at some of these
teams as they move on to thesecond round, uh, or what to
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look for, for the series thatare still going.
That's our hope.
And we want to know, right?
Like, what's your favoriteseries to watch this year in the
postseason?
Let us know in the commentsection, like who, who do you
have going to the finals?
Do you believe that Minnesotahas the opportunity, has the
chance to take down thedefending champs?
The winners do, me, uh, butlike, that's, that's a lot of
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analysis in terms of kind ofwhere we're at right now.
Roman, anything else that youwant to break down before we
close out?
I, I want.
To know, does anybody have achance in the east, especially
with the bucks going down?
Like, are the Knicks really theclosest thing to the Celtics in
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the east?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, Knicks Pacers could be agood series, right?
Seeing Brunson playing against,uh, Halliburton, right?
Halliburton being the guy who'son team USA against Jalen
Brunson, who a lot of peoplethink should have been there.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Yeah.
The Knicks, uh, the Knicks?
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If that's the case, like If theCeltics can't run away with this
to the finals, this is bad.
It's bad.
If the Celtics don't go to thefinals this year, it is Is it
split up time?
Is it get a bunch of draft picksfor the next 10 years?
(52:20):
How If they don't make it to thefinals, I don't understand why
we're doing the Jalen Brown,Jason Tatum thing again.
No, I Yeah, yeah.
That's probably what it is.
Let's give away everybody, butno, this is, yeah, at least a
draft picks.
Yeah.
It's you're trading Jalen Brown.
If you lose and you don't go tothe finals, Jalen Brown, you're
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out of here.
Let's get ourselves anotherDerek White in the starting
lineup.
I mean, the guy's got like sixweeks to win six rings based on
his interview with Taylor Rooks.
Like it's now, it's now JalenBrown.
This is your opportunity.
We can't have a, you scoring 17points, Derek White outscoring.
These two, these two combined.
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Hey, a win's a win, my boy.
A win's a win, my boy.
Why is Derek White taking almost30 shots?
What's going on?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Let's close by talking aboutthis.
Let's close with this.
The Lakers are never going tobeat Denver the way that they're
currently constructed.
There's a million things thatthey have to do.
And I don't know if I have theconfidence in the ownership
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group or the head coach.
To do what they need to.
Are we gonna see LeBron James ina different uniform next season?
It's just, I was just talking tosome of my buddies about this,
like, is it, is this Lakersthing over, like, what, what,
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what do, what do we do fromhere?
Um, seeing as how LeBron justentered the transfer portal, I
think it's a.
One last time.
And, but there has to be somechanges that you need some
different players or, uh, somehealthy players, but there's,
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they could get a lot of, if theydid some trades or just move
some money around, they couldreally get some good role
players.
But at this point, if 80 is notgoing to stay healthy and take
over this team and bronze stillhas to drop 30 points, triple
doubles, You're gonna be a firstround exit.
Go play with somebody thatactually wants the ball in the
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fourth quarter.
If I'm LeBron That doesn'tinjure themselves late in the
third quarter.
Yeah, a stinger.
Well, what do you, what are yourthoughts on Bron?
What if he went back toCleveland?
Darius Garland, DonovanMitchell, LeBron James, and the
Twin Towers.
It's just hard because he'salready gone back.
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Yeah, a third time would be kindof crazy.
That's like somebody retiringthree times.
I think that there's two teamshe, I think there's two teams
that he shouldn't go to.
I think he shouldn't go toCleveland unless he's like, this
is literally I'm done with theNBA.
Maybe, but I don't like a fullon farewell tour.
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I think he shouldn't go toGolden State.
And I think he shouldn't go toCleveland.
I think those are the two thatwould hurt him the most.
And that he really needs toavoid.
If he avoids those two teams, hecan go to really anybody else
from there.
The only reason he would go tothose is because his son would
go to those.
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Can't go to Denver though.
That's another one.
Oh yeah.
That would be the weirdest thingever.
Yeah.
Well, Ron in a lot of teamsdoesn't seem right.
I don't know.
Hopefully he can just finish hiscareer as a Laker.
To be honest, like I think thatwould be best.
Yeah.
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People should just stop holdinghim to an unrealistic standard.
And here comes the conversationof, uh, I don't know what my
future looks like.
I don't, I don't know if I'll beback next year.
Yeah.
We jumped immediately into thepod.
So we haven't gotten to seeLeBron's post game interview.
It'll be probably one of thefirst things I do as soon as we
jump off.
But, um, So we'll see what hesays.
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He was very cryptic last yearand that was coming off of a
Western Conference Finalsappearance.
I can only imagine what it'sgoing to be like this year.
I'll tell you what he won't,I'll tell you what he won't say.
He won't say it's justbasketball.
Everybody pulling that out of,everyone pulling that completely
out of context is ridiculous.
Yes, it happens too much.
And it's, that's going to be aclip that is around for a long
(56:41):
time.
Just basketball.
It's just basketball.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Episode 18 Swishless Podcast, weare out.
All right, everybody.
Welcome in Season 2, Episode 18of the Switchless Podcast.
The playoffs are in full effectand boy do we have so much to
talk about.
From the Lakers getting agentleman's sweep, Jamal Murray
sending them home yet again,this time to end the series.
The Timberwolves.
What are the Phoenix Suns donow?
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That's next up.
It's Wolves Nuggets, right?
How do we feel about it?
We need to talk about some ofthe series that have not ended,
right?
What are we going to see out ofthe 76ers?
Do they show any signs of life?
And does anyone care about therest of the series outside of
Mavs Clippers?
Because it doesn't feel like it.
Feels like there's really fourgames you have to watch, and the
rest, uh, don't even make it onTNT.
(00:44):
They're like NBA TV games.
So I literally looked at thegames tomorrow and I was like,
no way.
Orlando got a primetime slot.
And then I realized it was NBATV.
And I was like, ah, you fooledme.
So let's start by talking aboutthe Lakers, uh, Roman with about
three minutes left in the gamewhen it was tied, I knew the
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Lakers couldn't win it.
It was so good.
It was just, we had the back andforth, you know, Casey P hitting
the clutch three, Austin reasonthe clutch three, like it was
just a good back and forth.
But when I saw Jamal Murray.
the possibility for a las Marietop of the key.
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We For some reason, this manturning a switch, Jamal M be one
of the best, one o comes tothat.
Like he kn So well, and yeah, hejust knows how to beat the
Lakers.
He just, he knows how to beatthe Lakers.
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He's playoff Jamal Murray.
I don't know if I've ever seen aplayer take their game to the,
to a level like this to go fromnot an all star, which debatable
whether or not you think heshould be or not based on
regular season numbers, but togo from that to this, like he
was injured.
When he does this, he looks likea, like a top three point guard
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in the league.
Like, like he, he, he sometimes,he has moments where he looks
more dangerous than JalenBrunson.
Okay.
I, when he shoots it, you just,you just think it's going in.
You just don't even question it.
I have an issue.
If you're going to sub D low outof the game and bring in Tarian
(02:30):
Prince, why would you even haveAustin Reeves defending Jamal
Murray in that?
Situation.
That's what I don't understandis why would we even have Austin
Reeves in the game playingdefense on Jamal Murray?
If you wanted to switch him andput him starting out on like
KCP, Michael Porter Jr.
Maybe.
But why was he put in theaction?
Because he, he's not athleticenough.
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He's not strong enough.
He doesn't become a factor.
Like no one's not worried abouthim at all.
And there's moments where heplays good defense.
Like sure.
He keeps this guy in front ofhim and people are like, maybe
AR can really play defense, butI'm.
Austin Reeves and D'AngeloRussell are not out there to
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play defense and it shows up inthe playoffs when they get
switched off and Austin Reevesis guarding Aaron Gordon in the
playoffs.
I mean, in the post, like, yeah,it's not gonna work.
It's not how it works in myopinion.
The Lakers game came down to afew major moments.
One spread out across the entiregame is poor free throw
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shooting.
Outside of LeBron hitting thoselast two, they missed a lot of
free throws.
And you knew the Lakers weregoing to get a bunch of free
throws.
Oh, for sure.
You have to be able to knockthem down.
But they missed a ton.
We saw classic Anthony Davis,who was Cancun ready, go down
with a stinger.
That mattered.
That was a factor.
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And I just think that there aremoments where the Lakers, they
just Don't show the level ofeffort where they deserve to win
that game.
There was like LeBron James isin the key with Aaron.
Aaron Gordon doesn't box out,gets out, rebounded, and then
it's hoping that the wide openthree that they get inevitably
(04:18):
off of the offensive reboundjust doesn't go in.
Like he doesn't rebound andlike, they'll call out like, Oh,
it was a great box out on Joker.
He does.
On occasion, but for the mostpart, like he's not trying to
rebound.
He's not boxing out.
He's not doing the extra things.
He, he went to push the ball tohis left hand and let you, and
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Yokage was right next to him.
Like there's just the Lakersmake these plays.
Having Spencer Dinwiddie in thegame, and he's, and for some
reason, they still let him shootthe basketball.
Like, there's just, they, theymake, they, Spencer Dinwiddie
misses two free throws, turnsaround, gets beat on defense,
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and Jamal Murray hits a three, afive point swing.
Like, there were just theseplays that the Lakers make, that
they don't deserve to be there.
They didn't deserve to win thatgame, and the Nuggets don't do
that.
The nuggets don't do it.
And you, you could even make theargument.
The only reason that the nuggetseven had to play that game is
because somebody, some equipmentmanager forgot to put their
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shoes on the right bus.
It's arguments there.
It's there.
I don't know how valid it is,but it's, I mean, it's there,
but I agree with you.
I mean, we saw the pointdifferential third quarters when
basketball games, especially inthis playoffs, just like you're
talking about, it seems like Youknow, halfway through the third
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quarter, like you played a halfof basketball, you coming out in
the second half, you're alreadya bit tired.
Uh, LeBron makes a stupid play.
Uh, Boxing out doesn't happen.
The defensive lapses that theLakers go through, like they
just, there's parts where youcan tell that they're like, Oh,
this isn't going to matter.
It's the middle of the thirdquarter.
Like it's going to matter whenthere's five minutes left in the
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fourth.
And yes, they give great effortthe last few minutes of the
game, but y'all had.
I took that plus 10 point leadin the first three games of the
series.
Like what, what happened even,even in game four, like they
blew a lead and barely won thegame.
So it's, it's almost like it wasbound to happen that they were
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going to get swept or gentlemenswept.
It's it's, it's a complete gameand they don't play a complete
game.
Michael Porter jr.
Also was lights out tonight.
Lights out.
And he has the whole series.
He just, he just was drillingthree pointers.
It felt like every game he wasgetting two wide open threes at
the top of the key off the pickand roll like wide open.
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And I don't, I don't even knowif I saw him miss one of those.
Like his three point shootingwas awesome.
on point.
He was scoring 20 plus jamalmurray was scoring 20 plus
yokich 20 plus aaron gordon wasgetting solid offensive
rebounds, solid put back pointskcp.
He was doing his thing andtonight reggie reggie reggie was
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clutch.
There was a stretch early in thefirst half where like KCP goes
down with an injury.
You don't know how healthy JamalMurray is.
The Lakers might be able to pullaway and Reggie just three
pointer midi.
It was like he did when he wasplaying for the Clippers.
Like, like what he would do tothe Lakers when he was playing
for the Clippers.
Like he just, he, he gave themthe timely points that they
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needed.
He really did.
Might've been their X factor forthe game, for real.
Before, before we talk aboutthis Timberwolves Nuggets
matchup, we need to have adiscussion first around the
Phoenix Suns and their serieswith the Timberwolves, and then
we'll kind of get into ananalysis of what we can expect
in the next round.
And let me tell you somethingright now, if anybody knows me,
(07:54):
if you've listened to thispodcast, if you followed this
journey, you already know whatside I'm on, but that's a
conversation, you know, forfive, 10 minutes from now,
Roman, walk me through how thePhoenix Suns.
Right.
Devin Booker, respectfully.
I don't know how teams are goingto guard us.
How does a team like that getswept chemistry?
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I remember at the beginning ofthe season, uh, saying that this
son's team does not have alineup.
They, they, they didn't haveanybody.
I think it was what, threeplayers on their roster when
they acquired Kevin Durant.
And I think that's what it comesdown to.
You get a bunch of new playersand you build around it and you
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have to go play a series againstone of the top three teams in
the West.
That's what's going to happen.
We know that chemistry is amajor thing in the playoffs and
this team just didn't have it.
It doesn't matter what kind ofscores you put together.
You're not going to be scared ifyou can't figure it out.
And the whole point guardsituation with them, like, yeah,
I think it showed up in thisseries.
They don't have a point card.
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I mean, you had an analysttrying to say that they should
just put it in the game andstarting a point card.
I couldn't believe it when Iheard that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Awful.
This is a guy who was on a 10day contract with a bunch of
teams.
Um, but I think it's just achemistry thing.
And we, this proves that youcan't just put three great
scores together and think thatthey can work it out.
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It's not how it works.
Yeah, I, one of the things wealso mentioned throughout the
season was the, the biggestfactor on whether or not this
experiment was going to work washow many games those three
players were able to playtogether.
And it just, it was a game ofmusical chairs and one of them
wasn't going to, wasn't playing.
One of them wasn't ready to playand they just didn't have enough
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games together.
And if anybody thought BradleyBeal was a playoff performer,
You must have never heard of theWashington Wizards.
He couldn't even make theplayoffs.
And when he did, he wasn't thefirst opponent.
And when he did, he was not theguy.
So, when I look, when I look atthe Phoenix Suns, it's a great
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example that real life is not,it's not NBA 2K GM work.
You don't just buy the mostexpensive players and sim the
games, and you automaticallywin.
That's not what happens.
And I think there's also thisnarrative that these 10 seeds
had a legitimate chance, 6seeds, the Phoenix was a 6 seed,
that they have a legitimatechance at winning a title.
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It's just not realistic.
Okay?
They just, like, go back andlook at the Phoenix Suns
battling for a playoff versus aplay in spot just a few months
ago.
Like, it, it, it just, it neveradded up.
It never made sense.
And so I'm not surprised.
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And when you transition and lookat the Minnesota Timberwolves,
right, they are a great exampleof what the NBA actually is
today.
People love guards, but this isa game of bigs.
You got to have bigs to win inthis league right now,
especially in the West.
And I don't know if you can findvery many teams that are better
constructed than this MinnesotaTimberwolves team.
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They have a veteran point guardwith playoff experience.
They have an electrifyingshooting guard in Anthony
Edwards.
Michael Jordan's son, AnthonyEdwards.
The best scorer in the NBA,Anthony Edwards.
Probably the goat of the,probably the face of the league,
Anthony Edwards.
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Anthony Edwards.
Did I mention?
No.
Okay.
All right.
They have, they have, they have,they have elite defense in Jaden
McDaniels at the three.
Then they have two seven footersin Carl Anthony Towns who can
step out and shoot the three.
And both of them have beenwilling to take the challenge
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and defend the on ball screens.
When they get put in the action,they're willing to step out and
defend.
and it's an automatic mismatchon the other end.
Carl, it has been, he wasfantastic shooting the three
ball, especially in certainspots.
The close out game stands out tome and because of their scoring,
it puts Rudy in a position wherehe's not trash on offense.
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Uh, and then off the bench,you've got Nas Reed, who's
another 6 10 almost likeliterally borderline 50 40 90
guy.
You've got, um, Alexander, uh,what is it?
Alexander Nikhil Walker.
No, it's Nikhil Alexander,Nikhil Alexander Walker.
There it is off the bench who'sbeen, who's been solid as well.
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So you have, you have these roleplayers that come in.
Um, you've got slow mo KyleAnderson.
You've got, you have these solidrole players that come in, they
get their shots.
Uh, this is one of the topdefensive teams in the league,
like the defensive team.
So when you try to match up withthese guys, Like they can
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defend, they can stretch thefloor and on offense, they're
going to get the looks that theywant.
And Anthony Edwards, he was aslow burner.
Most of the series where hewould be non existent in the
first half, but they wouldeither be closer, have the lead.
And then in the second half, hewould explode 31 points in the
closeout game, just dominantperformance after dominant
performance from him, dunking onKevin Durant, like this is a
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team that really has.
All of the pieces to make a deeprun in the postseason, uh,
Roman, your thoughts on theseries overall and the Minnesota
Timberwolves.
I think you described itperfectly, uh, the way the team
is built with, I think JadenMcDaniels is the biggest piece.
Uh, wow.
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Anthony Edwards, uh, not, notlike, I'm not going to say
biggest piece, but X factor gotit.
That's that's that's accurate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, it to be beginning of theseries.
Uh, I mentioned the thing thatAnthony Edwards said about.
Well, uh, they have Katie, butwe have Jade McDaniels.
Uh, they didn't even put him onKevin Durant.
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Uh, Kat was guarding KevinDurant.
And I think that shows theversatility of this team
defensively is they, they canjust be like, we'll, we'll put
him on Devin Booker, Kat cantake Kevin Durant.
Yes.
Kevin Durant is going to go forhis points.
He's going to get his buckets.
But like we saw what happened.
They got 4 0, they couldn't evenwin a game.
And that's because of this,this, uh, Defensive standard of
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this team.
And for the longest time, I wasthinking Mike Conley might be,
uh, a factor for them, likedefensively, but I mean, they
are just holding their ownregardless.
They're hitting the shots thatthey need to hit.
Like they just four owed a teamthat there's no reason that team
shouldn't have been able to winone game.
Like we saw glimpses throughoutthe regular season of what
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Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, andKevin Durant could have looked
like.
And the Timberwolves justabsolutely destroyed that idea,
just demolished it.
So, like you said, I think thisteam has a great fit, but
unfortunately, they're going torun into somebody here in the
next round.
Yeah, so, so, but kind of beforewe get into this, a couple more
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things I just wanted to say, andto your credit, saying that
Jaden is the X Factor, it'sbecause, like, defense doesn't
show up on the stat sheet.
No one, no one cares to listento analytics guy talk about
opposing field goal percentageother than like if it's Luka
Doncic, because like the beliefis that he doesn't defend.
Um, there, there was a, and it'snot just individual defense.
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There was a specific possessionin the second half of the
Timberwolves game where it was afull five man rotation.
Where like they send the doubleto Devin Booker and every single
guy rotated and it gave Conleyenough time to get to the
opposite side corner becauseBooker was at the wing and then
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he tipped the ball and they gota turnover like it was, it was
literally perfect team defense.
And I'm not saying that theTimberwolves play perfect team
defense all the time, that's notwhat I'm saying.
But they play team defense at ahigh level.
And Anthony Edwards, hegalvanizes that team.
They know he's the guy.
And he comes to play.
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He's gonna, he's going to He'sgoing to do the, he's going to
do it to the fans.
He's going to call out theplayers and then he backs it up.
And so I genuinely think thatthe best series that we may
watch in the post season isgoing to be Timberwolves versus
Denver.
And there's no better time to bethe Minnesota Timberwolves
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because the Denver nuggets arenot as healthy as they're going
to look on paper.
They're not as healthy as whatyou just saw tonight.
Ladies and gentlemen, they'renot.
You don't think Jamal Murraythat calf issue is not going to
be a thing?
Good luck in the action tryingto defend Anthony Edwards.
KCP already is dealing withstuff.
So is Reggie Jackson.
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He's dealing with stuff.
Like, this is the type of teamthat you do not want to play if
you're banged up.
I believe, and I know, this isgoing back on my pick going into
the postseason.
I'm making a switch.
I'm calling something that'snever happened before.
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I have the MinnesotaTimberwolves beating the
Nuggets.
I have them beating the Nuggetsin six games.
I have the MinnesotaTimberwolves going to the
finals.
I believe that the MinnesotaTimberwolves are positioned to
win the finals.
This series, there's, they matchup at every position.
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They can put a seven footer onAaron Gordon instead of someone
that's about the same size.
They can put us to, they can puta seven footer on yoke.
Itch.
They've got guys who can takethe challenge off the bench and
they can score the ball at anelite level and really push the
Denver Nuggets to their limit.
And Denver doesn't have thebench that they did last year.
Denver last year beats Denverthis year, and Minnesota this
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year beats Denver this year.
No, nope, because you'reforgetting one thing.
Nikola Jokic owns Rudy Gobert.
Absolutely owns the man, hecannot guard him.
And if he matches up againsthim, Jokic is going to average a
40 point triple double.
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So, I'm with you on six games,but I'm just switching it to
nuggets.
I'm taking the more experiencedteam.
Sometimes it's hard for me tolook at you and like think that
we're brothers because you just,you say things that are just so
wrong.
How is that wrong?
(18:34):
I was, I was in person for RudyGobert versus Nicola Jokic in a
basically deciding game for theone seed.
One of those games.
And, uh, I remember Nicole Yoicputting up, uh, I think a 40
point almost Triple double, andRudy Gobert complaining the
whole game.
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I, I remember this, I think, Ithink that was right.
The regular season doesn'tmatter, Roman.
Okay.
It does win.
Uh, the seeding is on the line.
Well, I, I could tell that,that, that, that felt like
playoff basketball.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think, uh, I think, I thinkthe two rules were pretty happy
when they swept the Phoenix sunsbeing the three seat.
Um, just saying, just saying, Ithink that they're going to,
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that the one thing that scaresme is the fact that I have to
put my faith in Rudy go bear tostop Yokage.
That is, that is mortifying.
That is mortifying.
Um, it, it almost makes me assick as when people say that
Rudy go bear should be a hall offamer.
Um, wow.
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Wow.
Well, we have our, we have ourpredictions for that series.
Uh, I feel like Timberwolvesdeal one of the first two games
at home, but then it's justNicole Okic just takes over the
series because he knows how badRudy Gobert is.
in a half court defense and hecan just take advantage of that.
Okay.
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I'm going to call the seriesright now.
Here's how it's going to go.
Timberwolves come out and theypunch Denver in the mouth early.
They're fired up and Denver's alittle bit on like not super
healthy.
Minnesota wins game one and thenDenver wins back to back.
They win game two and they wingame three.
Minnesota equalizes game fourand then wins game.
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Well, this is, this is where itlike, we're, we're, we're going
to have opposite opinions here,but then whoever's winning that
series wins games five and six.
That's how I, but I, the firstfour games, I think it's going
to be Minnesota, Denver, Denver,Minnesota.
That's how I have the first fourgames going.
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I say it goes, uh, Denver,Minnesota, Denver.
Minnesota, Denver, Denver.
Got it.
So you've got it just, it'sgoing to be one, one, two, one.
It's going to be one, one.
It's going to be one, one, two,two, then two, four.
That's got it.
So we're trading haymakers andthen we get late in the game and
just they, Minnesota can'tcontend.
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And, and this is, this isbarring no injury, no major
injuries.
Okay.
For the people that were in ourcomment section or saying
different things, because thebucks, like.
more injured than we thoughtgoing into the postseason.
I just don't want to hear it.
Like, go talk about a legitimateseries.
All right, that's, I'll just saythat.
I'll just say that.
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So this is barring health, but,um, and they're going to have a
lot of time to rest too now,because we have to watch the
rest of these first round seriesbefore we can commence the
second round.
So no, it's true.
I have up to a week off.
It's true.
The Timberwolves needed theLakers to win and it just,
there, there was no way.
There, there was, there wasliterally no way.
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So you're telling me based onwhat you've seen Denver do, you
have faith in that team?
Yes.
The champions of the league lastyear.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
You don't, not, not even alittle bit, you don't, not even
a piece of you is afraid ofAnthony Edwards.
Not at all.
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Not really.
I've got KCP.
They've got KCP and JaydenMcDaniels.
I mean, they got, they got KCPand Aaron Gordon.
I mean like I like him.
I like him.
And Michael Porter Jr.
is not a bad defender.
Like, people want to act likehe's a bad defender.
But like, everybody in thatlineup plays defense.
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Yeah, but this is AnthonyEdwards.
I don't deny that.
But this is the champions.
This is the Nuggets.
It's a, it's a new season.
All right.
It's going to have his points.
He might get the same averagesthat he did last series.
But I think it's going to end inan L.
I think he's going to drop 36 ingame one.
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Timberwolves win.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Let us know in the commentsection who you've got winning
that series.
I want to know, are you backingme?
Are you on the money side, thesmart side, you know the
Timberwolves?
Or do you want No, you go sideor the Roman side, or do you
wanna be on the, which I favor.
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Do you wanna be on the Romanside picking the Denver nuggets?
Just going.
Do you wanna be on the side ofthe, the former champions or the
young team who could surprisesomebody?
I don't know if you're, ifyou're playing at risky, you
might want to go with him.
But if you, if you know how theNBA works, you might want to go
with the Roman Romans, the S andP 500.
(23:39):
And I'm crypto I'm Bitcoin,Minnesota's Bitcoin, right?
You might make a lot of moneywith this guy.
This is, this is the firstseries they've won in 20 years.
Okay.
This is, this is Bitcoin.
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Bitcoin just cleared 40k andlike you're hoping it's going to
clear 60, and I've been holdingBitcoin forever on those.
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I've been, I've been, uh, I've,I've, I've, I'm one of the only
investors in the Tempered WolvesLLC, and I've got them, I've got
them.
Cashed out right now.
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risk it all.
Okay.
You can't, you can't affordanything in America unless you
take major risks that could justmake it sure you lose literally
(24:25):
everything.
And that's what the Timberwolvesare.
And Switchless podcast is, we donot give out financial advice,
but, but I will just say this.
But he does, but he does.
That is not how I invest in mypersonal life, but in terms of
basketball, there's never been abetter time in my adult life to
back the Minnesota Timberwolvesright now.
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This is childhood Moses livingout his dream.
It is.
This is the best it's ever been.
Okay, so let's let's transition.
Let's talk about the Clippersand the Mavericks, where the
Clippers look better when Kawhidoesn't play.
And Russell Westbrook has beenan abject disaster on the
basketball court.
Uh, the Mavs Kyrie has made someimpossible shots.
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Luca has been okay.
I don't, I don't think thatLuca's really played to his
level personally.
I'm not saying he's not showingup for the playoffs.
Luca has plenty of playoffmoments just up to this point in
the series.
I believe that Luca has anothergear that he could reach.
Uh, Paul George.
Was insane last game, but theClippers were up 31 points and
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literally like almost lost thegame So what do we how do we
make sense of this series?
Like what is going on right now?
You can't because at first itwas, okay, well Kawhi's out,
this doesn't look good.
But this just gave theopportunity for James Hartman
and Paul George to thrive.
I mean, you saw Paul George takeover the first half of that
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game, but then he just kind ofwent away.
But then, do you see how manyfloaters?
James Harden put in at the endof the game.
It was like five.
It was like, I think it was fivestraight in the court.
Yes.
Ten straight.
But like, yes, he just left handforward, left hand forward.
It might be the best shot in thegame right now.
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Like it is him and Brunson,dude, him and Brunson.
It is unstoppable.
He just, he just drops it off,just drops it off.
And Won them the game and nowthe series type.
If that doesn't happen, like ifhe doesn't take over, this is a
three one series right now andwe're basically saying it's over
a hundred percent, but now it'stwo, two.
We're headed back to la.
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It's very easy for them to just,James Martin just take over and
have 25 in the first half, andPaul George goes for 30 in the
second half and.
It's game over.
So this series is just sounpredictable because at the
same time, I mean, Kyrie isputting up a 40 point game and
it's super quiet because this isbasically Lucas team and the
role players are working out.
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So this, this is completelyunpredictable.
I think I had, I think I saidClippers in seven.
So I'm going to stick with itand say that happens.
But again, the uncertainty inthis series is all over the
place.
It has been one of the mostinteresting series because one
game you're like, okay, thisteam has got it.
And then the next game you'relike, no, they don't.
(27:21):
Yeah.
And you shouldn't play Kawaiiuntil you need to.
Keep them out.
The inflammation is always goingto be there.
It seems like so.
Hey, see what, see what happensin game five.
Let's roll the freaking dice.
Let's roll the dice.
Let's roll the dice.
Now I do, I do.
I do believe that the Mavericksrole players are far and away
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outplaying the Clippers roleplayers.
I think Zubox has been good, butPJ Washington has been great.
I think Gafford, barring theinjuries he's kind of dealing
with has been solid.
They're back up center.
Lively.
He, he rook, he plays hardpause.
(28:04):
Rook had some very clutch plays.
Yeah.
He, he takes the challenge andhe's not backing down from
anybody.
The, the, the, the Mavericks arenot backing down from anybody.
Like this is genuinely a goodseries.
If the Clippers role players, Imean, Norman Powell, he's, he's.
He's just a solid bench player.
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He's a solid player.
He's going to hit the three.
He's going to, he's going tojump three feet in the air and
hit some, hit some big timethrees.
Like you just know it's going tohappen.
Uh, but man, it's just, it'sjust fun to watch.
I also have the Clippers infive.
I think, or sorry, I have theClippers in seven.
I have them winning game five.
That's what I meant to say.
I have Clippers in seven.
I have them winning game five.
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Uh, but a great series to watch.
You're going to see some greatshot making.
Uh, I mean the Paul George stepback three.
Almost looked like it was fromthe side of the back.
Like it went over the backboard.
It was just, it was a crazyshot, just a crazy shot.
It's must see TV and anotherseries that's must see TV right
now is the 76ers Knicks series.
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Like the three one that we'relooking at right now.
It doesn't feel like it's threeone at all.
And it also feels like everygame has been a home game for
the Knicks.
Uh, but Jalen Brunson, ladiesand gentlemen, Jalen Brunson is
the truth.
He's here.
He is the life.
He might be Luzon Al Gaib.
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This guy is the savior of theNew York Knicks.
They finally gave him his owntheme.
Could you imagine if somebodylike him and Luka played
together?
Oh, dude.
Him and Luka?
Would have been crazy.
No, but, but for real, I mean,it just seems like, When Brunson
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gets an isolation, it just feelslike he's going to score every
time.
Like if he gets in the paint,whatever he throws up is going
in.
And again, it definitely feelslike this is a two, two series
because of how much the 76ersgot screwed.
Um, and they probably shouldhave won a game and it should be
two, two.
And again, it's just wild howmuch one game can affect a
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series.
The difference between two, twoand three, I mean, yeah, two,
two and three, one is.
Unbelievable.
But the Knicks players areshowing up.
Josh Hart is, I mean, he saidthis in his podcast.
He's just there to be in thegame and mess everything up.
And yeah, he does exactly that.
I think he had 15 boards lastgame.
Just all the offensiverebounding for the Knicks has
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been elite.
He gets so many boards.
I think was the perfect pickupfor this team.
He just, he just ties everythingtogether.
Just ties everything together.
Devin Chenzo is More confidentthan any role player I've ever
seen taking a three point shot.
Like they just look good.
I mean, Hardenstein's been greattoo.
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Yes.
Yes.
He's been solid.
He's been solid.
The man had five fouls in onequarter.
Yes.
Yes.
And you, you, you look at thatand you, you hate to see it, but
I genuinely think the effort'sbeen there and he's had a decent
floater that he's been able tohit consistently.
I think Mitchell Robinsongetting hurt was the best thing
that could happen for thembecause now they have two bigs.
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Who are experienced playing withthis team and, and Mitchell
Robinson's not like, he's not ascoring threat outside of like
the lob, like the Hartenstein,he's able to hit like that six
to eight foot put shot.
He's got his pushback.
He does like he'll, he'll hitthat.
I don't think there's a teamwith more chemistry than this
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next team in the playoffs, butyeah, sure.
But like the, the nuggets,there's like a, there's like a
cool factor where they've beenhere before.
Like they're, they, they sitalone as champions of the league
where the Knicks in terms ofeverybody that's fighting to
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steal the crown, they just are,they did, they move as one dude.
And they play hard every, everysecond of the game.
Tobias Harris has been adisaster.
He's been awful.
He has been garbage and Maxie.
I'm not going to say Maxie hasbeen bad, but he just makes
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foolish plays.
He just has moments where I, hisdecision making is just not
there.
And I'm like, dude, the ball'sin your hand, man.
This was his opportunity.
Like you, you, you really, hejust.
He makes plays that you justscratch your head a little bit.
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And I mean, I don't personally,I've never been a fan of Kyle
Lowry.
I don't love watching the waythat he plays basketball.
I, I, I don't like, I don't likewhen people are like, look at
how smart this player is andthey're flopping.
I just, that's not reallysomething that I can get behind.
Um, do I think the Sixers canwin a game?
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Maybe two?
Sure.
Are the Sixers going to win thisseries?
No.
No.
Like, Joel Embiid is dealingwith Bell's Palsy.
The guy can barely blink.
Blinking with one eye, guys.
And he's, dude, he's a house ofcards, dude.
Every time he falls, he'sgrabbing the knee immediately.
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Also, the Sixers are just, like,they're not And I'm surprised,
from a Knick Nurse team.
But they just, they're likeerratic, overly emotional.
They're not like, especially alot of complaining this year, a
lot of from across the board,but also like in bead, he's
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like, you know, he's hittingpeople a little bit more than he
needs to.
He's given a little bit extra onthe screens.
He's, he's.
It just feels like they're outof control.
And I, and I genuinely thinkthat's one of the major, uh,
reasons why you're going to seethe downfall of the 76ers.
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Well, another thing with them isthey do this mid season
acquisition to get buddy healedand they haven't used him.
Yeah.
He basically went out of therotation and I mean, yeah, he
wasn't playing well, but that'sa guy, if he gets streaky can
basically win you a game.
And why, why would you not,especially, especially while I'm
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bead was out and they werelosing games.
Figure it out.
You got to figure out the, yougot to figure out a way to keep
this guy involved because nowthis is where you need the
shooting and, and this is not aknock to Kyle Lowry, but you
could also use some of the sizebecause you're getting beat on
the boards like crazy becauseyou're running double point
guards.
(34:58):
Campaigns.
It's not going to cut it.
Campaign of Kyle Lowry is notgoing to cut it.
No, dude.
Josh Hart's a dog.
Dante DiVincenzo is a dog.
Jalen Brunson is a dog.
Okay.
Like there is a few teams thatare just filled with defensive
teams and I, the Knicks are oneof them.
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I do still think the Knicks aregoing to run out of gas because
Tom Thibodeau is an idiot interms of how he manages people's
minutes.
But uh, but what a time, what atime to be a Knicks fan because
you're, you're, you're, you're,you're playing the Pacers next
round.
Like you feel pretty good.
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You could make a run and getclubbed by the Celtics.
Like you could make a run.
It's going to be fun.
What a time.
Eastern Conference Finalsthough.
I know.
You're a top four team in theleague at that point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, and the Knicks, they'regonna, they're gonna have a
whole lot to say.
(36:05):
They're gonna have a whole lotto say.
Stephen A.
Smith will not let that go untilthis time next year.
Stephen A.
Smith said today that he, thatDevin Booker wants to play for
the Knicks.
How did you get away with sayingthat on national television?
It's because he can sayanything.
I hate ESPN, dude.
Gosh, they're so bad.
(36:26):
It's so awful.
And no, JJ, we're not talkingabout you, we're not talking
about Richard Jefferson, butjust, ugh.
Yes, there's a few bad apples.
Yes, and they just, they'relike, they really have ruined
the barrel.
They've ruined it.
Like, when I see that it's anESPN day, or there's like three
(36:49):
ESPN games, I'm like, whichone's gonna be Hubie?
Terrible.
Nobody, like, I, I don't, is itDisney?
I don't, I don't.
How they must have been tryingto clean up their image and they
had to go for a 95-year-old todo it.
They just, like we, you'retelling me, we fired Mark
(37:11):
Jackson and Van Gundy and wekept that guy.
We kept the guy who should havebeen retired probably 15 years
ago.
Yeah.
Like, it's just, I'm sick ofthis, just describing like how
it feels to be a fan of theteam, like commentators supposed
(37:33):
to tell me what's, what's goingon, you know, go through some
facts, some stuff that's beengoing on during the game, but.
It's just Huey Brown's justlike, okay, this is what just
happened.
If a team goes on a run, helikes to talk about it for about
20 minutes.
Like he's, and, and it's, andthis is an eight to run.
And when it's an eight to run,the game is tough.
(37:55):
It's so tough to play basketballwhen you're facing an eight to
run.
Now, what you have to do whenyou get the ball is you got to
run the pick and roll.
This is what he loves to do.
If you're a Fox twins.
He spins back inside, and ifyou're a Bucks fan, you've seen
this a million times.
He's gonna spin back inside andshoot the jump shot.
But if he misses, and it's a 102 run, then what do you do?
(38:19):
Maybe you call a timeout, I'mnot sure.
That's exactly what it is.
If you're a Bucks fan You lovethis right now because since the
first quarter, this team hasgone on a 30 to 15 run.
And he doesn't, and he doesn'teven stop for a made shot.
He's like, yeah, and then theMiddleton, you made a shot right
(38:40):
there.
But, uh, anyways, and then Marktries to bring him back.
And he's like, deep in his back,like the fries are at the
bottom.
Or he wasn't, the bank wasn'topen.
He was, this was cash app, butI'm sure Hubey's just sitting
there like, what are the, whatis this guy talking about?
And the Clippers are going toset sail like the Clips.
(39:04):
They really are.
We're going to eclipse theDallas Mavericks in this game.
The scoring has beenunstoppable.
Next time you watch this guy, Ijust want you to listen to how
hard he pushes his vocabulary.
He just.
Vernacular on another level.
It's, it's unbelievable.
Vernacular on another level.
(39:25):
We've talked enough about theannouncers.
Indiana, Indiana Pacers and theMilwaukee Bucks.
Uh, who's gonna get blamed forthe Bucks falling apart?
Like, is anyone to blame?
Are we, are, are, is Too manypeople to blame at this point.
Really?
Too many?
The coaching decision was, wasawful.
(39:46):
And I'm sure somewhere down theline, we'll learn something that
Adrian Griffin had done, orthere was a major reason that he
got fired.
Oh yeah.
You know, he said something toJanice, but I need to know what
happened.
I need to know what happenedbecause the second team, I think
they were the second team in theEast and they fired their coach.
And I mean, Doc Rivers has had alosing record as the coach.
(40:08):
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, it's just soimportant.
I feel bad for Bucks fans.
Your, your franchise player ishurt.
I mean, not surprised.
This is what happens to Giannis.
He plays like a maniac, dude.
You go out and get DamienLillard.
(40:28):
injury and you get beat by ayoung Pacers team.
Maybe, maybe Giannis shouldlearn how to shoot the ball so
that he doesn't have to playlike drive 100%.
Yes.
And fall all the time and getelbowed and beat up through the
season and then complain thepostseason.
Maybe he should do that in thepostseason.
(40:49):
And not for 80 games.
This is going to be Giannis'sthing.
It's In the next couple ofyears, we'll have one more
healthy season and they mightwin a championship.
And then it's, it'll be one ofthose big what ifs, like if
Giannis just could have stayedhealthy and he'll have two rings
and if he'll have some of thecraziest stat lines, craziest
averages.
Just a guy who could never stayhealthy.
(41:11):
I think at this point though, ifyou lose this next game, you
really got to cycle out some ofthese guys, like the old, old
bench guys, it's over.
I don't know if you do theBrooke Lopez, Bobby Portis thing
again.
I'm not saying you have to getrid of both, but like you're
moving on from somebody likethey could get a lot for that.
They need to, they need tobreathe some, some life into
(41:35):
this franchise.
Uh, they're old.
I think they're the oldest, oneof the oldest rosters in the
league.
Uh, and it shows and it showsbecause all those players aren't
playing and Wow.
It's what a bummer that theshots that Middleton hit to keep
them alive and then to justlose.
And I love that it was Pat Bev,Mr.
(41:56):
Defense that just got completelyexposed, exposed.
He got crossed.
He jumped.
He got classic so bad.
He jumped and he fouled him.
Game winner.
Yes.
And then, and then Rand fouledhim and pointed to everybody
else.
Like he wasn't the one that gotjust cooked.
(42:17):
That's what happens when PatrickBeverly is your starting point
card.
A hundred percent.
No.
A hundred percent.
100%.
So like Bucks fans, it's toughbecause I, I this, that, that is
a team that I genuinely thinkcould give the Celtics a series
because Giannis is elite, but.
We've seen how this goes whenthey end up in situations like
this.
We saw it with Miami.
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If they bring Giannis back andthey win a game, they don't win
game six.
He can't do it again.
He can't do it again.
Like he's just not healthyenough.
And with the calf strain, youstart worrying that you're going
to find yourself in a KevinDurant situation, where he's
going to tear his Achillesbecause you rush him back or
something else is going to tear.
And for Giannis, who relies onhis athleticism, a tear is a
(43:01):
much bigger issue compared to aKevin Durant.
Okay, we've got Orlando and theCavs, which was looking like it
was going to be a sweep untilthe series shifted to Orlando
and all of a sudden the kids,the kids are performing.
(43:22):
This is a series and it's just,I think half of the games, they
just don't televise them because90 percent of the people
listening haven't even seen aminute of the of the series.
Nope.
But, okay, I, we talked abouthow the Knicks are one of those
teams.
I love watching the Magic play.
They give so much effort.
Like, uh, Gary Harris and JalenSuggs are like just two of my
(43:48):
favorite players right now.
They're everywhere on thedefensive end.
They're energy guys.
Uh, Paulo is performing verywell.
Uh, the Wagner brothers areproviding so much energy for
this team.
Like, this is one of the youngteams that is just, they're just
playing well.
They're just playing well, andthey're giving the Cavs a run
for their money.
The brothers are kind ofannoying.
(44:09):
I don't need the, like, They'rea little extra and they don't,
they haven't earned the rightto, to kind of do that.
Um, they're basing this all ofthe, all off of their, uh, their
feeble in.
So, so like that, I'm like, youtwo are just like annoying, but
(44:32):
dude, if Donovan chokes, if hechokes, Oh, Oh, what do the
calves do?
Oh, they trade Donovan probably.
If he can't make it out thefirst round, but even this is
scary to let this team win.
Win two games?
Yeah.
And, and not just win two games,like the convincing fashion,
(44:55):
like they, they have beat thetar out of them.
Shut them down.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
Game, game game five, you gottahave NBA TV to watch it but
it's, uh, it's to watch theplayoffs.
Yeah.
To watch the frickingpostseason.
But it's, it's gonna be a decentwatch.
So I'm on the Orlando side inthat series.
(45:16):
You're still on the Cavs, youwanna make a change or you, uh,
you stick'em with Cavs?
No, I'm still going.
Cavs in seven.
But it, it hurts me because Ireally do.
You know, Pat Riley said thatit's not a series until the team
wins on the road.
And that's definitely the casefor this one.
It is not a series yet until wesee someone win on the road.
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Celtics, Celtics are absolutelydominating the Miami Heat.
It's no surprise.
I think no one's shocked thatMiami was able to pick up a
game, but it's just notcompetitive.
I mean, when Derek White isdoing it, doing what he's doing,
um, it's scary.
I didn't see if Chris HapsPorzingis came back after his
injury.
That's probably the only thingthat's scary right now was it
was a non contact injury.
(46:00):
Lower leg is what it seemed forPorzingis.
That's a major, major loss forBoston.
Well, yeah, huge.
I'm putting up almost 20 pointsa game for them.
And as much as Al Horford canhelp them, he's getting really
old.
He's been playing backupminutes, which is where he's
good now, and they can reallyhurt them in the long run, like
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Eastern Conference Finals comesup and they don't have Chris
stops.
And like you said, it was a noncontact injury.
This guy might have a Strain,tear, like he could be out for
weeks, which could really hurtthem.
And if nothing else, it hurtstheir chemistry when he comes
back too.
So yeah, it's something to keepan eye on.
He's, they won't need him to winthe East, but if you see Denver
(46:49):
without him, Minnesota withouthim, you're going to be in
trouble, dude.
You're going to be in trouble.
Who's their backup center withtaking a spot?
Exactly.
That's a, that's a littlecornet.
Yeah.
Bad.
Mr.
Guard, three pointers.
(47:13):
He was getting minutes.
He was getting minutes.
He, he, he was as a backup.
The other, uh, the, the lastteam, Oklahoma city completes
the sweep.
They, they swept the Pelicans,uh, who get to head their way to
what gap, what, what was it?
Galveston.
There's that's what CharlesBarkley was saying.
They're going to, they can goswim in that dirty water on the
(47:34):
beach, on the beach.
Uh, Charles, the nationaltreasure, Oklahoma city.
They, they, they really put themaway.
It was a shame.
We didn't get to see ZionWilliamson because I really
think that would have made it aseries.
But, uh, at this point, itdoesn't feel like Brandon
Ingram's game really fits intoday's NBA.
(47:57):
Uh, and I've, I've kind of beenon this for.
45 years.
It's not that he's not a solidplayer.
He can't score the ball, but amid range reliant player similar
to phoenix had three mid rangereliant players.
Uh, I just don't think his gamein particular and how slow he
plays and just slows down theiroffense.
(48:18):
I don't think it was conducive,um, for putting together a
winning formula against a teamlike OKC.
It's good for some regularseason takeovers.
Yeah, that's, that's about it.
But the thing with this seriesis I'm just confused.
Is OKC this good, or were thePelicans just that bad?
(48:38):
Was CJ McCollum just that bad?
No, CJ was not good, and I thinkthe Pelicans are just not good.
Like, wait till they play theClippers or the, like, the
Clippers or the Mavericks.
I think one of those teams isgonna come out and absolutely
punch them in the mouth.
They're gonna punch them in thefreaking face, dude.
(48:58):
Early in the series, likethey're gonna throw, punch'em,
gasping for air.
Consistent.
Okay.
See is, I can't say it enough.
They are just consistent aroundthe board.
They have great coaching, theyhave great rim protection.
They finish at the rim, theypass the ball, well, they shoot
the ball, they get to the line,they, they just.
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They play so many guys, theyjust, they know what they're
doing and it's, it's interestingto see.
And they, they, their rotationis huge.
I think they have the deepestrotation of any team in the
playoffs.
They're still playing.
They're like 11 players in thefirst half.
Yes, yes, yes.
They're playing, everybody'splaying and everybody's
contributing.
It's not like anybody just fadesoff in like the sunset.
(49:42):
Like everybody shows up, you'vegot your three point shooters.
You've got your guys that aredriving to the basket, driving
kick.
You've got your defensivestoppers, like everybody's
showing up, taking the challengeand enjoying it, enjoying every
minute of it.
And they have some, I guess, acouple of beds to look over.
You see Bismarck on the bench.
You see Gordon Hayward getting afew minutes of game.
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Like sure.
You've got a couple of olderguys like this and they're going
to be rested, be a scary team.
Yeah.
They're going to be rested.
If the Maverick series goesseven, that's, that's a lot of
rest.
It's a lot of rest for a youngteam.
Who has never seen a secondround of a playoffs and really
has no fear who is going to havehome corn advantage, valid,
(50:26):
valid.
And so that kind of rounds out alot of what, what the playoffs
have been.
I think, you know, I think wereally covered it where if
you've missed any of theseseries, if you've missed any of
these games, our hope is youwere able to pick up, pick up on
a gem or two that allows you to,to better look at some of these
teams as they move on to thesecond round, uh, or what to
(50:47):
look for, for the series thatare still going.
That's our hope.
And we want to know, right?
Like, what's your favoriteseries to watch this year in the
postseason?
Let us know in the commentsection, like who, who do you
have going to the finals?
Do you believe that Minnesotahas the opportunity, has the
chance to take down thedefending champs?
The winners do, me, uh, butlike, that's, that's a lot of
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analysis in terms of kind ofwhere we're at right now.
Roman, anything else that youwant to break down before we
close out?
I, I want.
To know, does anybody have achance in the east, especially
with the bucks going down?
Like, are the Knicks really theclosest thing to the Celtics in
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the east?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, Knicks Pacers could be agood series, right?
Seeing Brunson playing against,uh, Halliburton, right?
Halliburton being the guy who'son team USA against Jalen
Brunson, who a lot of peoplethink should have been there.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Yeah.
The Knicks, uh, the Knicks?
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If that's the case, like If theCeltics can't run away with this
to the finals, this is bad.
It's bad.
If the Celtics don't go to thefinals this year, it is Is it
split up time?
Is it get a bunch of draft picksfor the next 10 years?
(52:20):
How If they don't make it to thefinals, I don't understand why
we're doing the Jalen Brown,Jason Tatum thing again.
No, I Yeah, yeah.
That's probably what it is.
Let's give away everybody, butno, this is, yeah, at least a
draft picks.
Yeah.
It's you're trading Jalen Brown.
If you lose and you don't go tothe finals, Jalen Brown, you're
(52:42):
out of here.
Let's get ourselves anotherDerek White in the starting
lineup.
I mean, the guy's got like sixweeks to win six rings based on
his interview with Taylor Rooks.
Like it's now, it's now JalenBrown.
This is your opportunity.
We can't have a, you scoring 17points, Derek White outscoring.
These two, these two combined.
(53:05):
Hey, a win's a win, my boy.
A win's a win, my boy.
Why is Derek White taking almost30 shots?
What's going on?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Let's close by talking aboutthis.
Let's close with this.
The Lakers are never going tobeat Denver the way that they're
currently constructed.
There's a million things thatthey have to do.
And I don't know if I have theconfidence in the ownership
(53:27):
group or the head coach.
To do what they need to.
Are we gonna see LeBron James ina different uniform next season?
It's just, I was just talking tosome of my buddies about this,
like, is it, is this Lakersthing over, like, what, what,
(53:50):
what do, what do we do fromhere?
Um, seeing as how LeBron justentered the transfer portal, I
think it's a.
One last time.
And, but there has to be somechanges that you need some
different players or, uh, somehealthy players, but there's,
(54:11):
they could get a lot of, if theydid some trades or just move
some money around, they couldreally get some good role
players.
But at this point, if 80 is notgoing to stay healthy and take
over this team and bronze stillhas to drop 30 points, triple
doubles, You're gonna be a firstround exit.
Go play with somebody thatactually wants the ball in the
(54:31):
fourth quarter.
If I'm LeBron That doesn'tinjure themselves late in the
third quarter.
Yeah, a stinger.
Well, what do you, what are yourthoughts on Bron?
What if he went back toCleveland?
Darius Garland, DonovanMitchell, LeBron James, and the
Twin Towers.
It's just hard because he'salready gone back.
(54:54):
Yeah, a third time would be kindof crazy.
That's like somebody retiringthree times.
I think that there's two teamshe, I think there's two teams
that he shouldn't go to.
I think he shouldn't go toCleveland unless he's like, this
is literally I'm done with theNBA.
Maybe, but I don't like a fullon farewell tour.
(55:16):
I think he shouldn't go toGolden State.
And I think he shouldn't go toCleveland.
I think those are the two thatwould hurt him the most.
And that he really needs toavoid.
If he avoids those two teams, hecan go to really anybody else
from there.
The only reason he would go tothose is because his son would
go to those.
(55:36):
Can't go to Denver though.
That's another one.
Oh yeah.
That would be the weirdest thingever.
Yeah.
Well, Ron in a lot of teamsdoesn't seem right.
I don't know.
Hopefully he can just finish hiscareer as a Laker.
To be honest, like I think thatwould be best.
Yeah.
(55:56):
People should just stop holdinghim to an unrealistic standard.
And here comes the conversationof, uh, I don't know what my
future looks like.
I don't, I don't know if I'll beback next year.
Yeah.
We jumped immediately into thepod.
So we haven't gotten to seeLeBron's post game interview.
It'll be probably one of thefirst things I do as soon as we
jump off.
But, um, So we'll see what hesays.
(56:19):
He was very cryptic last yearand that was coming off of a
Western Conference Finalsappearance.
I can only imagine what it'sgoing to be like this year.
I'll tell you what he won't,I'll tell you what he won't say.
He won't say it's justbasketball.
Everybody pulling that out of,everyone pulling that completely
out of context is ridiculous.
Yes, it happens too much.
And it's, that's going to be aclip that is around for a long
(56:41):
time.
Just basketball.
It's just basketball.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And with that, that's, that'sgoing to be it for us for season
two, episode switchless podcast.
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