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Hello and welcome to
the Talking Cards podcast with
Grant Salani and the Juice.
I am just solo today.
It is just me, the Juice, herebecause I wanted to make sure I
got on to be able to talk aboutTopps Chrome Football.
Tops Chrome Football is back.
It will be releasing today foryou.
Well, there will be a pre-ordertoday.
Um, it's been over a decadewithout Topps Chrome Football,
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and it is licensed back withtops, and they are starting out
with a bang.
It's Topps Chrome product reallylends itself nicely to it.
The look of it is that of theother 2025 Topps Chrome
products, and it's a clean look,holds up well, makes a good
transition of football.
So, as far as what the pre-ordertoday is for Hobby and Jumbo, it
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is going to be EQL.
Hobby will set you back$349, andthat is one auto.
Jumbo$649, that is two autos.
On the retail side of things, wehave mega boxes at$69.99, value
boxes$39.99, and hanger boxes at$19.99.
So when it is time to pre-order,you're gonna have that hour
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window to do EQL.
So if you are looking to getretail, make sure you take care
of that first.
I don't think it's gonna be forretail.
It's never too crazy difficultto be able to get it unless
you're getting it by the case.
And I do think that if thisretails anything like we saw for
Topps Chrome basketball, it kindof ended being the buy anyway.
A case of hangers might be thebest value for your buck.
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So you might really want toconsider that.
You have up until a week beforethe product comes out.
Unfortunately, although we didget a checklist, there are no
odds as of the recording ofthis.
So we can't know for certainwhat the best buy is going to
be.
But I really think a hangermight be the route to go,
especially with a pre-order whenso many of those signals, you
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can be able to get up on eBayright away and get that first
mover advantage.
Really be able to take advantageof those high prices that people
are willing to pay to just getthe first ones off the market.
So just something to be awareof.
Remember, retail first, and thenyou'll have plenty of time to do
the EQL.
You have that full hour.
The big chase in these are goingto be the rookie premiere autos.
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So these are like the MLB debutpaddle, these are like the
patches that we find in topsupdate Chrome.
These are one-on-one taking offof rookie's first games.
So that is going to be right upwith the Super Fractor to be the
rookie card to have for theseguys.
Also, they are doing the goldshield autos for NFL Award
winners.
So we have five different guysfor this.
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We have Josh Allen, the MVP,Saquon Barkley, mental player
rookie of the year, Pat 13,defense player of the year,
Garrett Verse, Defensive Rookieof the Year, and Jaden Daniels,
Offensive Rookie of the Year.
So those are going to be somereally nice pieces to be able to
get hold of.
Those are the 2024 awardwinners.
And then as far as the insertsgo, so I was able to look at the
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checklist.
This isn't going to be a fulldeep dive into the checklist.
We'll do that more close torelease, but this is just to
hopefully have you semi-preparedfor the pre-order that is coming
today.
The first thing I noticed islightboard logos are in this,
which I love.
Those are probably retail only,though.
So again, we're not going toknow until we get more
information and get the odds.
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There are image variations,there are image variations for
the rookies and vets.
And then let's just talk aboutthe SSP inserts.
The ones that are back areHelix.
Those are okay.
Ultraviolet, radiating rookies.
I like the look of those too.
Lightning leaders for baseball,they did not really resell all
that well.
Let's go.
Yeah, that that one is okay.
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Fanatical, I really like.
And then they introduce a coupleof new ones.
They have the kaiju insert,which they have not released a
picture for, but I'm excited tosee what that's going to look
like.
I think the concept of thatcould be really cool.
Game genies, from what I've seenon this, I do wish it was more
cartoony.
I know a lot of people don'tlike that, but I really like the
cartoony look compared to therealistic look.
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Kind of like how downtowns arecartoony with Panini compared to
Home Field Advantage.
It's more have a has a morerealistic look.
I like both of them, but Iprefer the downtown.
I prefer the cartoony look.
And I think for the game genies,I think that's something that
really could have, yeah, maybewhat we'll see in the future,
maybe this will be a one anddone.
I'm surprised that I did not seehome field advantage for this
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product.
I think that would have reallylent itself to football well,
but maybe in a future product.
One thing Topps did not mention,but if you look in the box, the
pictures they release of those,you can see that it mentions
Tecmo inserts.
So it's going to be a reallyinteresting concept.
That actually might be a bigchase.
A lot of people love that Tecmostuff.
Yeah, let's see what they dowith that.
Hopefully it's something reallycool.
All right, next up, let's talkabout the autos.
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Of course, we have the topchrome autos.
These are rookies, vets, andlegends.
We're going to hit mostlyrookies out of this, like we do
with any Topps Chrome product.
It's going to be hard to hitthose vets.
Those legends are going to bereally tough to hit.
I'm expecting a lot of rookiesand second year guys out of
this.
And the second year guys couldbe an insert.
The second year guys could be aninteresting chase because with
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this being most likely, a lot ofpeople will see it similar to a
rookie auto, but not quite,because their autos from the
year before were unlicensed.
So this could be their firstlicensed autos for a lot of
these guys.
So I'm interested to see how themarket will react to that.
I really don't know either way,but definitely something to keep
an eye on.
And if you get a second-yearauto non-rookie guy, but it's
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still a decent player,definitely something that could
be a better hit than he mightexpect.
Brady will have autos in this.
Tom Brady will have autos inthis.
Just like with baseball, how welook, hey, does Otani have autos
in this?
I think Brady is the guy thatyou look for on football.
Do I have a chance to hit theGOAT?
I hate calling him that, but Ihave to.
I just I have to.
He earned it, unfortunately.
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And the big rookies that you'relooking to hit out of this are
quarterbacks, Jackson Dart, CamWard, Doris Sanders, even.
I'm not too into football cardsthat much.
I do collect them here andthere.
But so if you're new to footballcards, you know, everything goes
to the quarterback.
Those are the guys you want tohit.
Everything else, it's likequarterbacks are hitters and
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everyone else is a pitcher.
That's pretty much how it goes.
Unless they're like agenerational talent, the
quarterbacks are always going tooutsell them.
That's what you're going to beseeing out of football.
If this is new to you, if you'rejust a tops guy that's excited
to have this finally, you arelooking for quarterbacks, which
really limits the guys thatyou're looking for in the
checklist, unfortunately,especially because football has
such huge rosters and so manyguys.
But that's just the nature ofcollecting in football.
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The auto checklist is prettyhuge for the rookies.
But besides that, you do havedual autos.
Chromographs are coming out inthis, which is nice.
I do like chromographs.
I'm interested to see if thoseare going to be sticker autos or
not.
I hope not, but that remains tobe seen.
Chrome Legends autos, Hall ofChrome autos, just what they
sound like.
We have rookie auto variations.
Again, I'm interested to see ifthey do stickers because I know
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sometimes with these they do.
And there's also relics androokie patch autos.
In Chrome products, I'm notreally a big fan of relics.
We'll see how they do here.
I'll reserve judgment until wehave some more information that
you can see what they look like.
But they're gonna be very rareand they're not gonna be a
significant chase, I don'tthink, anyway.
Something else that Tufts didnot officially announce, but
they put on the box, is itmentions MVP buybacks.
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So save those Stafford cards.
If you see them listed cheap ina break, jump on that.
But also be weary because Tuftshas made a habit of changing
what their preview box imagesshow.
So sometimes just because itsays it on a preview image, that
they've just had uh a fewsnappos now where you just can't
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trust it the other day.
MVP buyback is a prettysignificant thing, but we'll
see.
You know, I'm just thinking theblue, the blue X Fractor from
basketball, stadium club chromenot being there, even though
those were on the boxes in thepreview images.
So again, just be weary going tothis.
Ultimately, what I'm going toreally recommend is to go retail
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first if you can, since thoseare not EQL.
These do have a chance to sellout, of course, but it's a
retail, so it shouldn't.
This stuff will be printed likecrazy.
So if you do miss out, don'tworry.
This is just a pre-order.
So hopefully you can hit in theregular release.
I am surprised that they'redoing it as EQL.
I'm interested to see if they'lldo EQL for the main release as
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well, because this is a flagshipproduct and they print so much
of it.
Just to do EQL seems a littleodd.
Usually that's saved for atleast a more short printed
product than this.
But if this ends up beinganywhere close to Bass Wall
Chrome, that this is a must-buy.
Yeah, you really don't want tomiss out on these cards on this
opportunity.
So that's about it.
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That's all I wanted to talkabout.
Just a quick little mini episodeon Topps Chronicle Football and
what you can expect if youhaven't had time because Tops
pretty much blitzed.
They pretty much blitzed us withthis.
No, no football pot intended.
They just put out all thisinformation and said, go get
them tomorrow, figure it out,give us your money for a month,
and then uh maybe we'll shipthese out to you in time.
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But uh, thank you for listening.
We will have a more in-depthepisode close to release.
This is the juice on the TalkingCards podcast.
Good luck in your EQL and yourretail chasing everybody.
Have a good day.