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June 15, 2025 97 mins

After dealing with some technical difficulties, Isaac, Ari, and Kmele discuss an interview between Kmele and The Fifth Column podcasters and Senator Rand Paul, the dynamics within the Republican Party, and the challenges faced by Democrats in responding to protests and immigration issues. The conversation also touches on the role of the National Guard in civil unrest, the impact of public perception on political messaging, and the recent arrest of Senator Padilla. They talk about the potential for dramatic confrontations and the evolving political landscape. The conversation delves into the complexities of political criticism, the evolving relationship between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, and the implications of Tulsi Gabbard's recent remarks on AI and nuclear war. And, as always, the Airing of Grievances.


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