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November 18, 2025 64 mins

Doug White sits down with Dr. Travis Yates to unpack what courageous leadership really looks like when careers, safety, and community trust are on the line. They cover training gaps, policy ripple effects, recruiting/retention, and theeveryday reps of moral courage that build resilient, high-trust teams.

Takeaways: Leadership serves people, trainingprotects them, and moral courage sustains both. Toxic leadership drives attrition; authenticity, accountability, and transparency earn trust.

Chapters:
00:00 Intro

02:52 Training

06:37 Policy & safety

11:00 Leadership crisis

15:41 Moral courage & recruiting

19:48 Authentic leadership

24:05 Toxic leadership

29:10 Community trust

33:29 Training’s future

38:26 Close & call to action

Guest Links — Dr. Travis Yates

Website: https://www.travisyates.org/travisyates.org
Training (Courageous Police Leadership): https://www.travisyates.org/courageous-leadership/ travisyates.org
Podcast hub: https://www.yatesleadership.com/ yatesleadership.com
Substack/Newsletter: https://www.courageouspoliceleader.com/ courageouspoliceleader.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travisjyates/instagram.com
Recruiting partner: https://www.safeguardrecruiting.com/Safeguard Recruiting

Doug’s Links (watch, listen, connect)

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Tell_This_Story
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0C4wNoBzyn8e8HwXqdEp7W
Amazon (podcast/book hub): https://a.co/d/biLp8ba
Website: https://www.dougwhiteofficial.com
Resources Mentioned

The Overwatch Collective: https://www.theoverwatchcollective.com/
Throttle & Thrive: https://throttleandthrive.com/
Boulder Crest Foundation (Warrior PATHH / PTG): https://bouldercrest.org/Foundation
UCF RESTORES (trauma treatment & training): https://ucfrestores.com/

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