April 25, 2026 • 44 mins
If cranking trailer landing gear by hand feels like “just part of the job,” this episode might change how you see it.
We’re talking with Stephen Davis, a 26-year CDL veteran and the creator of Turn N Burn — a landing gear drill adapter built to make drop-and-hook faster, safer, and a whole lot easier on your body.
Stephen breaks down the real-world problems drivers deal with every day: worn-out landing gear, bent handles, awkward trailer angles, bad weather, and the constant repetition that adds up when you’re moving five, six, or more trailers in a shift.
We get into how the adapter actually works in plain terms, why torque and durability became non-negotiable during development, and what it took to go from a rough idea to something drivers are trusting in the field.
Then we zoom out beyond the product. Stephen shares a real blueprint for trucking innovation — from building a proof of concept, finding the right patent attorney, protecting your idea, and pushing through the moments where money, logistics, and doubt all hit at once.
We also talk truck shows like MATS, live demos, criticism from skeptics, battery realities, and why he believes true scale comes through fleet and terminal adoption. Plus, he hints at a future university study to document repetitive strain and safety improvements.
Key Takeaways 👇
✅ Hand-cranking landing gear isn’t just inconvenient — it’s a long-term strain on your body
✅ Repetition adds up fast when you’re moving multiple trailers per shift
✅ Torque and durability are critical when replacing manual cranking with power
✅ Innovation in trucking starts with solving real, everyday driver problems
✅ Protecting your idea (patents, proof of concept) is just as important as building it
✅ Fleet adoption is the key to scaling practical tools like this
✅ Tools like Turn And Burn can improve safety, efficiency, and driver longevity
If you care about trucking safety, injury prevention, fleet efficiency, and tools that actually respect drivers’ time and bodies — this is one you don’t want to miss.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:25):
Welcome back to That's Delivery Podcast.
It's your boy Truck and Ray.
And today we have a show wherewe talk about people, products,
and innovations that areactually pushing the industry
forward.
And today's episode, right here,is one that of those that how
did nobody think of it anytimesooner?
You know, it's one of those typeof conversations where I met uh
this young man uh at Matt's justa few weeks ago.
(00:48):
And uh the moment he explainedwhat he created, I knew we had
to have him on the show becausethis is one of those simple
practical ideas that solve thereal problem drivers deal with
each and every day.
So joining me today is StephenDavis, the creator of Turn and
Burn.
Steven, welcome to the show.
(01:13):
Steven, how are you doing?
Glad to have you on the showtoday.
A real honor.
Hey, nice to meet you.
I came here a little early, butit's nice to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome, man.
I mean, you you guys are doinggreat things uh with uh Turn and
Burn.
Uh maybe if people haven't heardof it, so we got you on the show
here.
You could talk about it, andmaybe we could share that
message with a lot of thelisteners out there so they
(01:35):
could check it out forthemselves.
Uh, Steven, tell us a little bitabout yourself and your
background in the industry.
Um, maybe there's something thatuh people uh can associate with
the product and also withyourself there.
Can you tell us a little bitabout yourself?
SPEAKER_01 (01:48):
Yeah, I've been driving for over two decades, I
believe.
So this year be my 26th, 27thyear holding a CDL license,
driving, yeah.
Um I've done food, I flatbeds,tankers, uh boxes, containers,
uh drive in, um, truck andtraders with tankers.
(02:13):
I've I've pulled up quite a fewuh trailers.
And besides the truck andtrailer, uh, all of them have
the similar pain point, if youwill, when it comes to the
landing gear, that yourepetitively crank and rotate
the crank handle.
Um, some of us hundreds of timesa day, some of us thousands of
(02:34):
times a day, depending on howmany trailers you pull.
And so um we came up with theidea um to make an adapter for
the shaft of the landing gearwhere you remove the crank
handle, put this adapter on, andnow any 18-volt drill we're
raising on the landing gear,safer, faster, more efficient.
(02:56):
It just seemed like it was timewhen we came up with this,
seeing how the crank handlesystem, I'm sorry, the landing
gear system itself hasn't beenreally changed since it was
implemented maybe 100 or soyears ago.
And it went in 2026, we have AI,we have you know computers
talking to us for Christ's sake,and we're still manually turning
(03:19):
the landing gear every day.
SPEAKER_00 (03:21):
It's just it's one of those things.
So when when you when you wereout there, you said was it what
was the moment where you saidsome stop and said, man, there's
there's gotta be a better way todo this?
SPEAKER_01 (03:33):
You know what?
It was I believe 2014, andoriginally I'm from Atlanta,
Georgia.
And so um working the rail yardsthere, since you don't have
ports in Atlanta, everything'sin Savannah, but our rail yards
uh bring in all the boxes forall our materials there.
So um I'm working in the railyards in Australia for those who
(03:56):
know, um, and then Fairvan anddowntown.
And I'm having one of thosedays.
Uh Ray that day, I moved 14different 14 different trailers,
14 different ones.
And by the ninth time I wasdropping and hooking another
chassis, I was cussing.
I was like, man, there had to bea better way to do this.
(04:17):
And so I went home, got on theinternet, checked around, there
wasn't anything.
Well, well, there wasn'tanything that like I could
afford, or let alone my companywas going to pay for it.
It was thousands of dollars.
And so I kind of just put it onthe back burner, put it in, put
it in the file in my mind.
Uh, a few years later, I movedto California and I met a guy
out here.
(04:38):
We kind of got serious about it,threw some ideas around, and we
came up with the adapter, like Isaid.
Um COVID hits 2021.
I got serious about it,definitely.
And the rest is what you see,like I said, uh right now this
year.
The ninth rendition, by the way.
(04:58):
Yeah, the ninth rendition.
We've busted them, broken them,warped them.
We've we've put them through allthe abuse you can.
So what you see now is a sturdyproduct that will not fail you.
That was pretty much the origin.
I got tired of it and found outall the benefits that came along
with it.
Like we're talking fast droppinghooks.
Um, the the strain, repetitivestrain on drivers now being all
(05:21):
but eliminated because you nolonger have to crank.
Um, and then just quality work.
Quality work, period.
For those who legit drop andhook every day, this tool is for
you.
It's for every trucker, don'tget me wrong, but for my guys
out there that's touching five,six trailers a day, this is for
you.
SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
Wow.
Wow, that's awesome.
I mean, think about the theproblems out there.
I mean, maybe somebody justdon't really understand what
it's like.
Um, when drivers are dealingwith these trailers, sometimes
they don't all go up at the sameuh smoothness.
You know, it's a littledifferent.
Um out there in the rain andyou're fighting it.
Sometimes they're too low.
(05:59):
I mean, it could be a lot ofthings.
Um uh what are drivers reallydealing with on a day-to-day
basis when it comes to crankingthe landing gear?
What would you say it's like forstrain, fatigue, things like
that?
SPEAKER_01 (06:11):
I'll I'll piggyback off you on some of the things
that you mentioned.
Of course, like having to jackup a trailer that's too low or
let it down because it's toohigh, uh dealing with the
elements, whether they be rain,sleep, you know, heat, um, wind,
even for some places out here inCalifornia.
Um, and and even justsituational, you know,
(06:35):
situations where, like, forinstance, when I was doing you
know, boxes, you know, for thosewho know, you can put a trailer,
you know, and they're like this,and you have to pull out, and
you trying to get in there anddo the limbo almost to let that
trailer down or to let it upjust to you know decouple, it's
(06:56):
a thing.
But when you have something likeR2 attached to a drill, it's not
just get in there and push abutton, push a button and just
get it done.
Um it it's those situationswith, and of course, like I
said, for for our older drivers,you know, they may not be
willing to more so just keepcranking and keep cranking.
(07:17):
And no offense, honestly, tosome of our female drivers who
want who want a more streamlinedapproach to what we do.
This is for those for those twoin and just overall comfort for
those who do what we do and justwant to get out to their truck,
they're like, okay, let's go.
Or at the end of the day, okay,let's go, and not have to deal
with manually lowering orraising the crank, uh landing
(07:39):
gear.
SPEAKER_00 (07:39):
It's just it's just a no-brainer we feel like.
Nice, nice work.
I mean, I think it is uh a greattool, great asset for the
industry to help lower thechances of injuries.
I mean, I've heard of peoplewhere the handle rotates back
and they weren't standing in thecorrect position, hits them in
the jaw and breaks their jaw,gotta go get dental work and the
(08:00):
face reconstructed.
I mean, it could be real bad.
So um on the turn and burn, allright, we kind of get the idea.
Um, let's see how it works.
And we understand that you knowit's gonna help out with the
with the industry.
But when it came to actuallymaking the product, what was it
like?
What was it like coming up withthe idea?
I mean, I'm sure it wasn't justuh click your fingers and there
(08:23):
it is.
I mean, you had to do some workto get that product, right?
Yeah, I did.
SPEAKER_01 (08:27):
It was you know what's crazy about that too when
you have an idea in your mindand it hasn't been done.
Don't get me wrong, we had a wehad a blueprint, if you will.
We we kept thinking of a socket,a socket, a socket, it has to
look something like a socket.
So we had a foundation, but toactually bring it to fruition
(08:48):
was a challenge.
And as we went along this, umwhat we did was we took like a
for our prototype, our proof ofconcept.
It was a hollow tube of a verythin metal, and then we welded a
washer to the back of that, andthen we cut a bolt, and then we
welded all that together.
(09:10):
And it's the most ugliestlooking, beautiful thing you've
ever seen, right?
And we tried it on the trailer,and sure enough, it worked.
And that's when the light bulbrealized, whoa, this is
something.
Now we just need to refine this.
And so that's when I startedgoing to like the local machine
shops around my area here inSouthern California.
(09:30):
Um learned a lot with that onebecause what I finally did, I
should have done in thebeginning.
This this tool is engineered tothe T, mind you, when I say
that, what I finally did,because I was just trying to go
out and tell people what Iwanted.
And I wasn't using the rightmaterials, I wasn't using the
(09:51):
right, the right hex.
I wasn't, I wasn't, I didn'tknow what to ask for.
So it was a lot of uh trial andarea, trial and error, rather.
When I say I've busted them,I've broken them, I've warped
them, I've I've smoked drillsuntil finally I said, you know
what, let me go find someone whoreally knows how to do this.
I found a good guy out ofIndiana.
(10:12):
Shout out to uh AlleghenyEngineering, uh Mr.
Ray Proud.
He uh listened to my flight, hetalked about it, he he uh he
designed it for me, and now whatyou see is what we have right
here.
That was kind of that is whathappened.
That is what happened.
Our final rendition right here.
SPEAKER_00 (10:32):
This is it.
Nice.
Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.
When you were designing that,what was the focus?
Speed, safety, easy to use.
What was the constant thing thatyou constantly kept coming back
to?
SPEAKER_01 (10:45):
It was it was all the things that happened during
the prototype phase where it wasbreaking.
Um, it it wouldn't hold up.
Um, it couldn't take the torquefrom the drill.
Uh I my thought was I don't wantthis to fail on the driver while
they're out.
I don't want this tool to be auh a hindrance to what we do
(11:08):
every day.
It should be easy, it should befast, it should be simple, it
should be sturdy, it should bedurable, it should be everything
I feel like what embodies truckdrivers at its core also.
Just to kind of be cheesy withit.
We're strong, we're durable,we're we're out there every day
putting in long hours.
This should match the tenacityof what we do.
(11:31):
And so that was my that was mymain focus on it.
Something that the guys thatreally, you know, okay, I got
this.
Yeah, let's go.
We we we're working.
That was the main thought.
And that's what I told RayAnderson.
I told my engineer guy, thissame thing, this is what I need,
and he he he brought it to life.
He brought it to life.
SPEAKER_00 (11:49):
Yes, what's up?
I love it.
Uh, teamwork makes dreams work.
Yeah, so I mean, you got thereal world impact.
What kind of feedback have youbeen getting from drivers out
there so far?
Have it been having any momentswhere someone used it and they
thought, hey man, yeah, that'sexactly what it's built to.
I like this.
SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
Yeah, some of the guys that uh some of the people
rather, and and small companiesthat have dared to buy what we
have, you know, we've gottenawesome feedback from Nil about
how, you know, it's it's makingthe job easier, it's saving
time, it's it's saving guysmuscles and and you know,
fatigue and all those type ofthings.
(12:29):
Um even when we when we firstwent to our first show, when we
first showed this in California,I'd say 2023, California
trucking show, it is it is tosee the driver's reactions when
they see it.
The the the demonstration wegave you, they they got
emotional at times, like, oh myGod, like where has this been?
(12:53):
Oh my god, it's like it's it'samazing to see the reactions for
the guys that know what it is,who do this thing, and they're
just thankful that somebodyfinally paid attention to the
truckers.
That is a thing too when itcomes to our space.
Like, you know, we seetechnology growing around us
constantly.
(13:13):
Um, I mentioned AI earlier andsome of the other things you got
driving cars and metric vehiclesnow.
But like for our space, nothingreally changes.
Nothing really changes.
And if it does, it comes fromthe outside.
So I feel proud even that I canbe a truck driver, bring
something that can help us andhelp change the industry for the
better for all of us, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (13:34):
So yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, um, it only takes umsomeone to really push forward
and push through all of thosepain points and to provide a
solution where other peopledon't have to have that pain
point anymore.
So now you you did all thateffort, put that in to help
everyone else.
So yeah, great job, man.
SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
Yeah, why not a tricker?
Why not us, if anybody, somebodythat knows who's done it, who's
done it over two decades.
Why not one of us?
You know, that's right.
SPEAKER_00 (14:03):
Yeah, we can do more.
I mean, think about the idea.
That's uh what I like to say isidea is the most infectious
thing that um humans have.
It could be for a good thing anda bad thing.
Once you get that idea in yourhead, it's really hard to get it
out.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah, so you did it for good.
Uh, let's talk about the journeybecause a lot of people out
(14:24):
there have ideas, you know,they're riding around in their
truck or they got all thesegreat ideas, but uh turning the
idea into something real,physical product as uh that's a
whole different level.
Uh, what did that process looklike for you?
I mean, there was times I'm surethere were challenges that came
along the way.
SPEAKER_01 (14:44):
Well, I I will say this.
I will give you guys what Ithink the blueprint is.
First is the idea, like YoungRay said, you have an idea.
Next is follow-through.
You have to stay on it becausewhat I was afraid of, um, that I
have this thought, rather.
Well, there was this this, Idon't know what to call it, but
(15:05):
I have this theme where youthink of something and you speak
on it, and now it's out there.
And if you don't do it, somebodyelse will.
That idea will float and it'sgonna be getting inspected in
somebody else who's gonna havethe drive and have the tenacity
and have the ambition to do it,and you're gonna look up one day
like, I thought of that.
I thought of that.
(15:26):
I didn't want that for me,right?
And so, with thatfollow-through, afterwards, what
you have to do is some of thethings I said earlier.
You go, you do a proof ofconcept, you you do a very
rudimentary uh rendition of whatyou're doing to see will it even
work?
Are you gonna waste your time,you know?
And if it works, now you put youput you progress forward.
(15:48):
I would suggest now you go finda patent attorney so they can go
see if this is in fact in themarket.
And what they will do is takeyour idea, listen to you, um,
not take your idea, listen toyour idea, uh, and go look for
it in the marketplace.
And if it doesn't exist, they'lltell you, oh, you have
something.
And you go from there.
SPEAKER_00 (16:08):
You got a cool, cool step process going through
there.
But you hit on that one thingthere.
You said they'll take your idea,be like, wait a minute, no.
That is what a lot of peoplefear is that they go talk to
somebody and they're gonna takemy idea.
How'd you feel about that?
I mean, you're being vulnerablethere.
You're saying, Man, I got thisgreat idea.
I don't want to go to somebodythat probably want to take it
(16:29):
from me and tell me it'snothing, and then they do
something with it.
What would you say?
Exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (16:37):
Exactly.
That and find a good attorney.
I don't know of any patentattorney that will do that, but
you're there is the attorneyplan privilege, and you sign
NDAs and all this stuff beforeyou get going.
So they they can't.
But with that, you do you youyou find good guys, ask around,
get on the internet, findsomeone who can take that, I'm
(16:59):
sorry, listen to that idea andgo search for you to see if it's
in fact out there.
And if it's not, like I said,you move forward, you have to
pay fees.
Um, they get a a drawing andrendition made up, there are
claims that are made that arethat are stating what your idea
can't do.
And then once once all thatstuff is cleaned up and
everybody's cool with what itsays, uh, you design either
(17:22):
submit a design or utilitypatent.
And once you do that, you submitit in.
Um, after we've done that step,then we move forward in
production and trying to see ifwe can make this thing and push
it to market because now we'reprotected.
Now we're not putting a productin the market that's all intense
and purpose, but naked, and youknow, someone can come and take
(17:44):
it.
There's actually, there'sactually a competitor of ours
that's out there right now.
I feel like he's going throughthat exact thing where he's not,
he's not significantlyprotected, and people from other
countries are just they'rethey're having their way.
But with that being said, withthat being said, um once you get
(18:04):
that, you then you go for uhyour marketing, you go for your
your product, you go for yourpackaging, you go for all the
things that are gonna make itthe best tool possible.
It is a it is a is a lengthyprocess, but once you get all
these things going, and itcan't, it's a little trial by
error, once again, you're gonnamake mistakes and you're gonna
(18:26):
bump your head, but as long asyou correct those mistakes and
then get in, get around theright people, get into the right
spaces, um, follow your heart,uh, trust your gut even, you
know, when it comes to whatyou're doing, I think you'll be
okay.
Once all those things are done,pretty much, you just put one
foot in front of the other andkeep going.
(18:47):
There has been, there has beentimes where I won't, I'm not
gonna lie to you, I didn't knowhow I was gonna do some of the
stuff we were gonna do.
There have been times I didn'tknow how I was gonna make
payments.
There might there have beentimes I didn't know how we was
gonna get to show.
Um, but I kept going.
I kept figuring out.
And and you will, if you do havean idea, if you have anything
(19:08):
you want to do, I would suggestthat just don't stop.
There's always a way.
There's always a way.
If you give up, you you willfeel so bad out there, like when
it's when it's all said and donethat that you didn't put your
all in.
If you're made to give up, youmade the now, you just can't go
anymore, at least you tried.
And I know that's what I wantedto do.
(19:28):
At least I tried.
But we've been doing prettygood.
Every time something comes up,something makes a way, and we
continue to go forward andfurther, and we grow bigger and
stronger every time.
Right now, Turner Byrne is, likeI said, we're the leader in this
space.
Um, our social media iscontinuing to grow.
Our um our marketing continue togo, the word is getting out
(19:52):
about who we are, people aroundthe country and the world are
starting to figure out what wehave and what we're doing.
We we get uh notificationsconstantly, people from France,
Sweden, China, uh, Australia,you name it, for people going to
our site and seeing what theturn and barren adapter can do
and offer.
(20:13):
So that's just a little bit ofour journey.
It gets more detailed, but Iguess, you know, those are the
basics of what we did to getwhere we are today.
SPEAKER_00 (20:23):
That's awesome.
I'm extremely proud to have metyou and uh learned about the
product.
And I'm rooting for you, man.
I think that's amazing.
Uh, talk about the invention, Imean, that struggle that you go
through.
Some people have an idea, butthe effort has to go into, like
you're saying, pushing yourself,not giving up.
Um, not everybody's got that.
(20:44):
Not everybody's cut out forthat.
Not everybody's made to own abusiness.
And uh, even to the point of uhbeing a CEO and trying to run
that.
I mean, you think about NVIDIA,well, that guy he runs all day.
I mean, it's nuts.
So some people say I want themoney, I want the this prestige
(21:04):
and the ownership, but there's alot of work that goes with that.
I mean, they're going to sleepdreaming about this stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (21:11):
I mean, I have a similar, I have a similar uh
feel about it.
Like the feeling is mutual.
There, they're my my wife peeksat me, I go to bed, and I wake
up just I I wear all the hats.
I wear most of the hats in thecompany, brother.
So it is a thing.
(21:32):
It is a legit thing.
I sleep, I breathe, I eat, turnand burn.
Until it needs to, you know,making this tool to be the
safer, faster, more efficienttool for all the drivers out
there so everyone can benefitfrom it.
I'm not I'm not giving this up.
I'm not giving this up.
SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
No.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's uh that'sperfect.
And you take it to these truckshows.
I mean, think about the mathsexperience.
We're gonna talk about that.
Um, that's where I met you in2026.
Um, that I'm sure you've beengoing to more shows like that
and putting the message outthere.
What was the experience like foryou getting signed up and all
(22:11):
the work that goes into that?
SPEAKER_01 (22:13):
Oh, Matt's is maths is always amazing.
Yeah, we we have a good time inin Louisville, not Louisville,
Louisville.
They will correct you whenyou're there.
Um it it's it's it's It's alogistical headache coming from
California to Kentucky, I willsay, you're not gonna lie, but
it's fun.
It's fun.
We have to, you know, we get ourteam up there, we get our
(22:35):
materials up there, we we getour uh display unit where we
have so that display unit yousee, we had the idea to take two
landing gear, put them together,put wheels on them, and on one
side we have the adapter, andthe other side we have the
manual crank.
For the layman who choose tocome come to these shows and
(22:57):
see, no, this is what this feelslike.
Um, we had the idea, honestly,uh well, actually, the first
show we did, people wanted torace us for for, I don't know
why.
They just wanted to race us.
And so whenever we did theseraces, we would just have this
big crowd around us, peopletrying to see, could the people
beat the turn of burn?
So it's something that weincorporated um in the show that
(23:20):
we did from now on, just to givepeople that real world effect.
Hey, you think you can beat thetwo, come try.
And once you get tired of nowuse the turn and burn and see
the difference.
And it's like night and day,like, whoa, this is different.
This is different.
Um, that's just one experiencefrom the Mets.
Being there, meeting all theother vendors, the other uh, the
(23:43):
other retailers who are there,everybody's there who help make
the trucking industry moveforward.
The deals that get done, the thehandshakes that are made, the
the friendships that are thatare you know that are
cultivated.
It's a it's a it's a it's ahumbling experience to be around
that many truckers and to seethat much trucking in one space.
(24:07):
I think it's the biggesttrucking show in North America.
And so whenever we go, we have agreat time.
We always uh we always you knowmeet and greet the guys.
We show people what we have, wewe we we astonish some people.
Um yeah, the the mats is themass is always wonderful.
(24:27):
It's always great.
Along with any trucking showthat we really go to, the mask
holds a special place.
It was a place where we firstreally got our tops in and and
and kind of experienced like,okay, this is the big leagues.
This is the big leagues.
SPEAKER_00 (24:42):
Mass was awesome.
Nice.
Like, yeah, that's a great placeto cut your teeth, man.
That's a great place to findopportunities.
I mean, you got uh individualslike Larry Cother in there.
I mean, you had uh did MotherTrucker uh come over there too?
SPEAKER_01 (24:56):
No, we didn't see Mother Trucker uh this show.
We saw him at another show, um,but we didn't see him this show.
But we did see Larry.
Larry was gracious enough tocome by, um, use the tool, um,
see the tool, give a shout-outto us, um, even collaborated
with us on Instagram.
We had a post to go viral, wethink, honestly, because it had
(25:18):
a lot to do with him.
So I will say that.
Shout out to Big Larry.
Um uh we had Who Else Came by?
I think I think that was it whenit comes to like people with
real influence.
I did meet uh uh ClarissaRankin.
She was there also with Larry.
I think she runs a truckingschool somewhere back east.
Um, shout out to all the peopletoo, all the all the uh those
(25:41):
good black folks that are makingtrucking move and bringing
awareness to the space and umhaving people look at what we do
in a better light.
You know what I mean?
Shout out to all those guys,mother truckers too.
Um yeah, that that was that'spretty much it when it came to
the show.
The the four days we were there,three days we were there,
awesome time.
The woman treated us nice.
(26:02):
We can't wait to go back nextyear, honestly, um, and do it
again.
SPEAKER_00 (26:05):
Same here.
Yeah, absolutely.
Um, yeah, I like walking aroundand talking with everybody.
I had a chatter box and won'tstop.
SPEAKER_01 (26:16):
Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_00 (26:17):
Yeah, that's awesome, man.
So when people come over, theythey get it right away, they see
the benefit and the value.
Well, well, well, truckingready.
SPEAKER_01 (26:26):
No, no, not everybody.
You we we have haters.
But when you have haters, you'redoing something right, right?
Um, but I will say, with theteam that I have and what we
know, what we've realized, andwhat I know anecdotally about
trucking, there's not too muchpeople can hate on once they
start talking to us.
It it we just start using logicand facts.
(26:50):
And and I come in with thetrucking part of it.
When they when they try to askquestions, like we had a guy ask
one of our team members, like,will it work on the Kozad?
So they call me over, like, willit work on the Kozad?
And I just give them a look,like, come on, man.
And I tell the team member, theKozad don't have landing gear.
And he's like, Oh, you got it.
I was trying to get you, like,come on, man.
(27:12):
I mean, driving too long, comeon.
But uh, but along with all theother guys who come up and just
blatantly don't like it, theythey call us lazy.
You're you're taking the onlyexercise truckers get from them,
which is wild to me, right?
Um, and and just the sheer factthat like we're not being manly.
(27:34):
That's just that's a weenie man,uh, adapter for weenies.
And we just hold firm, safer,faster, more efficient.
Why why turn your arm when youcan just you know push a button
with your finger?
Honestly.
And and honestly, just to justto put a button on this, right?
It's not for all trucking.
(27:54):
I will say that.
No, I would say this isn't forall.
It could be.
You can use it for mosttrucking.
But like I said earlier, thereason I made it this is for the
dropping hooks.
The UPS guys, the Costco guys,the Walmart guys, the ports, all
those guys who are going to aterminal to pick up a trailer,
(28:16):
to go to a destination, to dropa trailer, to pick up another
trailer, to take back to aterminal, to do it again.
This is what it's for.
And for the drivers that say,Oh, this is this is lazy, this
is weak.
I really feel like they haven'texperienced that side of
trucking where you are legitmoving four or five, six
(28:37):
trailers every day.
You can do it, yeah.
It's doable.
We've been doing it forever, butlike it gets old.
It gets old.
And then you got bad trailer,you got bad landing gear, you
got the landing gear, uh crankhandle that's bent in the
boldest bent, and you can't evenpush it in to engage it.
(28:58):
Like, it just it does this everytime.
It's like, why are we we're in2026, people is the thing.
I wouldn't care, honestly, whatyou use to raise the lower
landing gear.
But I just feel like this stoneage Model T4 stuff we're doing.
No, no, no, get you, go get youone, go get you one.
(29:20):
Come on and talk to us, tearyour company, because this
should be a it should be asystem-wide changeover.
We feel like that's the only waythat speaking of that, if I may,
Ray, if I may go on a littlelonger.
SPEAKER_00 (29:34):
No, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:35):
For the people for the people who for the people
who do say, no, I don't want totake it off, I don't want to use
it because every time I drop thetrailer, I got to take it off
and put the train handle backon.
You're right.
I'm not, we're not suggestingyou do that.
It's counterproductive to why wemade the tool.
If every time, if you don't ownthe equipment, if you're an
(29:55):
owner operator or your companydriver and you're dropping and
hooking trailers that aren'tyours, it makes no sense for you
to go pick up a trailer.
I'm sorry, drive to a drive to atrailer, get out, take out the
crank handle, put on theturnaround adapter, use the
turnaround adapter, uh, get yourlook, connect your airlines, go
(30:16):
to your destination, get there,truck array, use the turnaround
lower landing gear, take out theturnaround adapter, put on put
the crank handle back on just togo to the trailer right next to
you and do the same thing again.
No, no, we even know that'sstupid.
It's weird, it's dumb.
We know that.
So, what we're suggesting is forcompanies to get involved, see
(30:40):
the benefits of this, therepeller strain injuries that it
can have on your drivers, thetime savers it can have for
those who run about a load, theminutes it will save and
eventually make drivers andcompanies, we believe, more
money.
This is what we're talkingabout, a system-wide change.
And when you get to a trailerand one of these is on it,
(31:03):
you're simply putting your drillon, connecting to it, raising it
up, and getting out of there.
You're turning and burning.
Hence the name of the school.
Turn and burn.
This is what we're promoting.
This is what we want.
And we have our way.
We're gonna keep going and we'regonna get this change made, even
though some people feel likeit's impossible.
Well, how do I what happens whenthis happens?
(31:25):
And what happens with truckarray was one?
What happens when when the drilldies?
Okay, okay, you one, don't letthe drill die.
Don't let the battery die.
Uh, you keep an extra batterywith you that's charging all
times.
That way, if the drill, if thebattery does die, you just pop
that out.
Put the one that's dead back onthe charge, and you're good.
(31:46):
Two, you keep the crank handlewith you just for just for such
emergency.
If you have to use it foranything, or this drill won't
work, your crank handle isalways there to do it the old
way.
Now, I know some drivers don'twant to put it back on, but
sometimes you just might haveto.
Sometimes you may.
And third, like it's 2026.
(32:08):
It's 2026.
So, with that said, um, we feellike what our tool is here to do
and provide uh for trucking isessential.
Um, it's the wave, it's the new,it's the future of what we do,
and we feel like it's the bestthing going.
SPEAKER_00 (32:25):
So I like that.
Yeah, I mean, why not haveanother option?
Versus uh, I think I was with uha driver and he was getting
ready to do a trailer swap, andhe actually tore his rotator
cuff right um right there.
Um and he had drive, he wasyeah, he put put in the work and
(32:48):
got back safe.
Uh, but you know, he could havenot been able to drive back.
I don't, but that was hischoice.
But yeah, I mean he uh he wasthat was a painful surgery he
had to go through.
SPEAKER_01 (33:00):
You know what's you know what's interesting about
that is that um when therearen't many um concrete examples
of where you can tie an injuryto raising a lower the landing
gear, an injury to getting inand out of the truck, an injury
(33:23):
to opening up the back of atrailer, you know, uh an injury
to throwing a strap if you're ifyou're doing um flat beds, an
injury to rolling up a strap ifyou're doing flat beds, an
injury to throwing chains usingbinders, like all the things,
kicking tires, hitting thehammer on the top, checking,
(33:43):
checking every like for all thethings that truck drivers do
throughout their day.
This for all you people, all youtruck drivers saying, y'all just
lazy truckers, there's no suchthing, in my opinion.
Like for all the truck driversout there, 10, 12 hour days,
four or five, six hundred milesa day.
Um we keep America running.
(34:06):
There's not a lazy truck driverout there, in my opinion.
And especially for those, yougot those over the road, and you
got the local drivers, localdrivers are humping around their
cities doing their thing, nomatter what they're doing.
So, with that being said, withall the things we touch, with
all the things we have to thinkabout every day when it comes to
trucking.
(34:26):
If we can eliminate one of thosethings with this adapter, we
feel as though we improve thequality of a trucker's uh
situation and work.
And like I said, it's so hard.
It's funny you say that aboutwhat your drive, your friend
experienced with a torn rotator.
That could have been over timewith another thing that we do
(34:48):
throughout the day, but itfailed on him during the landing
year.
And vice versa, with somethingelse that happened to other
drivers, like you do thisprobably mostly, and then you go
do something else mean you.
You may throw a straight, oh,and you hurt yourself.
So to say that again, if we canremove one of these things, the
pain points in trucking, thatwhat we do, we think we make in
(35:10):
essence a healthier driveroverall.
It's something actually we'reworking on.
I I'll I'll I'll let the cat outof the bag on this one that
we're we're teaming up with auniversity, excuse me, on the
West Coast, trying to get astudy done where we can show the
benefits of an adapter, likefull-fledged, bona fide, legit
(35:31):
benefits of what Turner Crankover and over, over and over for
years and years does to thebody, and how an adapter like
what we produce changes that andimproves uh total health for the
drivers.
They actually had a studyalready uh that was done showing
that there is a uh uh not abenefit, there's a uh there's a
(35:56):
detriment to turning the cranehandle repeatedly for on and on.
And so um we're just waiting forhonestly the the administration
to kind of open the grants backup because they've closed
everything down.
Once that happens, we're gonnawe're gonna aggressively pursue
um that and hopefully we can geta uh well, not hopefully, we're
(36:17):
really pushing to get legitlanguage on why this is a
benefit for the truckingindustry.
SPEAKER_00 (36:24):
Yeah, I mean, those are the efforts that you need,
like not letting the dream die.
So um big up to you on that,man.
You see the benefits, you gottasee the big picture too.
You gotta zoom out.
You can't look at the tree, youcan't look at the forest.
You're gonna have to startlooking at the planet, you know.
So you'll be able to do that.
I like the yeah, I like I'm aspace guy too.
(36:45):
I like the trigger race.
Yeah, man, isn't that amazingthat these guys are out there
going up to the moon?
I mean, man, that should getmore um attention.
I think that's awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (36:56):
Uh well, the same guy, those same guys that say uh
turning around is lazy, theydon't think we've been to space
or to the moon.
So, yeah, that's my shot at youguys.
All you flat earthers and peopledon't think we've been to out of
space.
Like, come on, man.
Come on, come on, trust theexperts who've been doing it for
decades.
(37:17):
People who legit have been doingsomething for decades, but
instead you're going to listento somebody who started a
YouTube channel a week ago.
And oh, he's an expert on earthand space and the moon.
Gotcha.
This is how to do it.
SPEAKER_00 (37:32):
Yeah, there's a lot of misinformation out there.
People love to spread it.
Uh, that's why I'm glad I gotsomeone like yourself that's got
the original message for theturn and burn.
And uh yeah, I know there's alot of followers that will come
after this.
That's just flatter, flatteringof the industry of uh of your
product.
So keep doing the great work anduh others will follow, but uh
only a few will succeed.
(37:53):
So great job.
Yeah.
Um, I think it's gonna be greatfor the future for you guys.
I see the the culture changethat has to take place for it to
uh to keep expanding, and Ithink that's gonna be great.
I think you guys have a lot ofgood ideas there for the
language and all those thingsthat need to be done to help
people see the benefits and thevalue.
So that once they see that, thenit's uh it's an easy decision to
(38:15):
make.
So great job.
Yeah.
Uh so I hope we can spread moreuh message like this to other
people.
Uh, where we find your product,where's the best place to go?
Where would you send people?
SPEAKER_01 (38:27):
The best place to go is our website,
turninburnnow.com, t-r-n-n,b-ur-n-n-o-w dot com.
You can get on Google and put inturn and turn and burn landing
gear drill adapter.
We should pop up.
Um, we're also on Amazon, we'reon uh Hitch Expo, we're on
trailerdecks.com.
Those those are some of our uhcertified uh resellers.
(38:52):
Um also you can catch us onsocial media, all social media
turn and burn now,t-U-R-N-N-B-U-R-N-N-O-W.
SPEAKER_00 (39:00):
Um, that's where we are.
That's where we are.
That's awesome.
You got a great crew too, man.
I mean, the excitement that theyall bring to uh, you know, not
just one guy out there with thewith the drill.
I mean, you got guys helpingyou.
Man, how did that all comeabout?
Were you guys grew up togetheror you just find each other over
time?
SPEAKER_01 (39:18):
Well, the golden child is my uh little brother.
He's my uh actually mybrother-in-law, my wife's little
brother.
Robert, shout out, shout outMVP.
MVP definitely.
He can he can he can sell air toair and then get changed back.
Like that guy's he's he's cool.
Um then you got my guy Fly.
(39:41):
Um he he's from home, he's fromAtlanta.
Just a just a good guy that cantalk his talk his butt off to.
Then you had um the OG Albert.
Uh I got Albert used to be inthe trucking space.
He's retired now, but he alwaysgoes and shows and just kind of
shows up.
Um, he learned about us from afriend of mine who's actually
helping with some of our newerproducts that we're gonna be
(40:04):
bringing out soon.
And so he has a lot ofknowledge.
Albert has a pleasure ofknowledge about trucking in
general out of SouthernCalifornia.
He he can tell you who the bigplayers are today, what they
used to be in yesteryear, andhow they got there.
Also, he's a salesman too.
So Albert's amazing.
Um, then I got my guy William.
(40:25):
He's a former Marine.
He just has just that.
He's a former Marine, just aknow-how of a bunch of things.
He's very valuable.
And then, of course, our cameraguy, our our videographer,
Turner Barr Media, uh, our guyDoe DB DB Films.
Check him out, he's an awesomeguy.
(40:47):
That crew we put together uhthis year.
We've had our core of Robert,William, and I.
And we brought on the otherthree this year, and it just it
it just I I yeah, I got a goodgroup of guys to your point.
I thank you, Ray.
Thank you for for seeing.
I got a good group of guys.
We're gonna do a lot of damageout here with those group of
(41:08):
guys.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
That's great, man.
And you got that Californiaweather to keep you going, keep
you positive, thinking all thatvitamin D out there, that's
gonna help you come up withgreat ideas.
So, man, you know, I love thatweather out there, man.
I'm envious over here inMinnesota, boy.
I'm telling you, when you whenyou stop through, call us.
SPEAKER_01 (41:29):
We go, we'll go in the winery, we'll go we kick
back, man.
We call us when you come.
Let's go hang out.
SPEAKER_00 (41:36):
You got it, man.
Oh man.
So I appreciate you coming onthe show, Steven.
Uh, you sharing your story, Imean, sharing your the effort
that you have to put forth andget that all done.
I mean, that's very remarkable.
I think a lot of people will itwill resonate well with them as
well, for young ones too, outthere.
Uh, even if you're if you have adream and you've been sitting on
it for some time, maybe it'smaybe you're up in eight.
(41:58):
Don't give up.
Hey, you can still keep thatdream alive.
So it's practical problems, youknow, it can be solved.
So, I mean, this is definitelyone of those.
And uh this is something thatyou can actually use every
single day for truckers outthere in the industry.
So respect to you for buildingsomething that truly helps the
people out there doing thiswork, the hard work that's being
done is isn't easy.
(42:19):
So there's any way you can giveanother option uh to people that
hey, this is this is another wayyou can do it.
So maybe, maybe, um, maybe youcan't do the landing gear.
Hey, now you can now you cantruck.
That was one thing that washolding me back.
SPEAKER_01 (42:34):
That's right.
What we want to offer what thelanding gear, the turn and burn
landing gear drill adapter doesis streamline the coupling and
decoupling of um traileroperations and offers the option
where you can raise and lowerthe landing gear safer, faster,
more efficiently.
That's what we're here to do.
(42:55):
That's what we're here to do.
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
There's truckers out there that uh in wheelchairs and
they're they're trucking.
Um they got it.
We did, yes.
I was like, that's beautiful.
Um so yeah, yeah, keep going,keep going, don't stop.
That's right.
All right, so if anyone outthere has seen an episode, want
to share this with someone youyou care about, that say, hey
(43:18):
man, just take it a littleeasier, and it's the easy way to
do it.
Uh reach out to uh Turn andBurn.
They got the uh the contactinformation will be in the
notes.
I think you can share this uhepisode with those uh uh also uh
like trucking episodes oranything else uh for
entrepreneurs out there.
So let's keep on bringing realconversations, real people
making an impact in theindustry.
Until next time, it's your boyTruckin' Ray, and that's the
(43:42):
liver.
Welcome back to That's Delivery Podcast.
It's your boy Truck and Ray.
And today we have a show wherewe talk about people, products,
and innovations that areactually pushing the industry
forward.
And today's episode, right here,is one that of those that how
did nobody think of it anytimesooner?
You know, it's one of those typeof conversations where I met uh
this young man uh at Matt's justa few weeks ago.
(00:48):
And uh the moment he explainedwhat he created, I knew we had
to have him on the show becausethis is one of those simple
practical ideas that solve thereal problem drivers deal with
each and every day.
So joining me today is StephenDavis, the creator of Turn and
Burn.
Steven, welcome to the show.
(01:13):
Steven, how are you doing?
Glad to have you on the showtoday.
A real honor.
Hey, nice to meet you.
I came here a little early, butit's nice to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome, man.
I mean, you you guys are doinggreat things uh with uh Turn and
Burn.
Uh maybe if people haven't heardof it, so we got you on the show
here.
You could talk about it, andmaybe we could share that
message with a lot of thelisteners out there so they
(01:35):
could check it out forthemselves.
Uh, Steven, tell us a little bitabout yourself and your
background in the industry.
Um, maybe there's something thatuh people uh can associate with
the product and also withyourself there.
Can you tell us a little bitabout yourself?
SPEAKER_01 (01:48):
Yeah, I've been driving for over two decades, I
believe.
So this year be my 26th, 27thyear holding a CDL license,
driving, yeah.
Um I've done food, I flatbeds,tankers, uh boxes, containers,
uh drive in, um, truck andtraders with tankers.
(02:13):
I've I've pulled up quite a fewuh trailers.
And besides the truck andtrailer, uh, all of them have
the similar pain point, if youwill, when it comes to the
landing gear, that yourepetitively crank and rotate
the crank handle.
Um, some of us hundreds of timesa day, some of us thousands of
(02:34):
times a day, depending on howmany trailers you pull.
And so um we came up with theidea um to make an adapter for
the shaft of the landing gearwhere you remove the crank
handle, put this adapter on, andnow any 18-volt drill we're
raising on the landing gear,safer, faster, more efficient.
(02:56):
It just seemed like it was timewhen we came up with this,
seeing how the crank handlesystem, I'm sorry, the landing
gear system itself hasn't beenreally changed since it was
implemented maybe 100 or soyears ago.
And it went in 2026, we have AI,we have you know computers
talking to us for Christ's sake,and we're still manually turning
(03:19):
the landing gear every day.
SPEAKER_00 (03:21):
It's just it's one of those things.
So when when you when you wereout there, you said was it what
was the moment where you saidsome stop and said, man, there's
there's gotta be a better way todo this?
SPEAKER_01 (03:33):
You know what?
It was I believe 2014, andoriginally I'm from Atlanta,
Georgia.
And so um working the rail yardsthere, since you don't have
ports in Atlanta, everything'sin Savannah, but our rail yards
uh bring in all the boxes forall our materials there.
So um I'm working in the railyards in Australia for those who
(03:56):
know, um, and then Fairvan anddowntown.
And I'm having one of thosedays.
Uh Ray that day, I moved 14different 14 different trailers,
14 different ones.
And by the ninth time I wasdropping and hooking another
chassis, I was cussing.
I was like, man, there had to bea better way to do this.
(04:17):
And so I went home, got on theinternet, checked around, there
wasn't anything.
Well, well, there wasn'tanything that like I could
afford, or let alone my companywas going to pay for it.
It was thousands of dollars.
And so I kind of just put it onthe back burner, put it in, put
it in the file in my mind.
Uh, a few years later, I movedto California and I met a guy
out here.
(04:38):
We kind of got serious about it,threw some ideas around, and we
came up with the adapter, like Isaid.
Um COVID hits 2021.
I got serious about it,definitely.
And the rest is what you see,like I said, uh right now this
year.
The ninth rendition, by the way.
(04:58):
Yeah, the ninth rendition.
We've busted them, broken them,warped them.
We've we've put them through allthe abuse you can.
So what you see now is a sturdyproduct that will not fail you.
That was pretty much the origin.
I got tired of it and found outall the benefits that came along
with it.
Like we're talking fast droppinghooks.
Um, the the strain, repetitivestrain on drivers now being all
(05:21):
but eliminated because you nolonger have to crank.
Um, and then just quality work.
Quality work, period.
For those who legit drop andhook every day, this tool is for
you.
It's for every trucker, don'tget me wrong, but for my guys
out there that's touching five,six trailers a day, this is for
you.
SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
Wow.
Wow, that's awesome.
I mean, think about the theproblems out there.
I mean, maybe somebody justdon't really understand what
it's like.
Um, when drivers are dealingwith these trailers, sometimes
they don't all go up at the sameuh smoothness.
You know, it's a littledifferent.
Um out there in the rain andyou're fighting it.
Sometimes they're too low.
(05:59):
I mean, it could be a lot ofthings.
Um uh what are drivers reallydealing with on a day-to-day
basis when it comes to crankingthe landing gear?
What would you say it's like forstrain, fatigue, things like
that?
SPEAKER_01 (06:11):
I'll I'll piggyback off you on some of the things
that you mentioned.
Of course, like having to jackup a trailer that's too low or
let it down because it's toohigh, uh dealing with the
elements, whether they be rain,sleep, you know, heat, um, wind,
even for some places out here inCalifornia.
Um, and and even justsituational, you know,
(06:35):
situations where, like, forinstance, when I was doing you
know, boxes, you know, for thosewho know, you can put a trailer,
you know, and they're like this,and you have to pull out, and
you trying to get in there anddo the limbo almost to let that
trailer down or to let it upjust to you know decouple, it's
(06:56):
a thing.
But when you have something likeR2 attached to a drill, it's not
just get in there and push abutton, push a button and just
get it done.
Um it it's those situationswith, and of course, like I
said, for for our older drivers,you know, they may not be
willing to more so just keepcranking and keep cranking.
(07:17):
And no offense, honestly, tosome of our female drivers who
want who want a more streamlinedapproach to what we do.
This is for those for those twoin and just overall comfort for
those who do what we do and justwant to get out to their truck,
they're like, okay, let's go.
Or at the end of the day, okay,let's go, and not have to deal
with manually lowering orraising the crank, uh landing
(07:39):
gear.
SPEAKER_00 (07:39):
It's just it's just a no-brainer we feel like.
Nice, nice work.
I mean, I think it is uh a greattool, great asset for the
industry to help lower thechances of injuries.
I mean, I've heard of peoplewhere the handle rotates back
and they weren't standing in thecorrect position, hits them in
the jaw and breaks their jaw,gotta go get dental work and the
(08:00):
face reconstructed.
I mean, it could be real bad.
So um on the turn and burn, allright, we kind of get the idea.
Um, let's see how it works.
And we understand that you knowit's gonna help out with the
with the industry.
But when it came to actuallymaking the product, what was it
like?
What was it like coming up withthe idea?
I mean, I'm sure it wasn't justuh click your fingers and there
(08:23):
it is.
I mean, you had to do some workto get that product, right?
Yeah, I did.
SPEAKER_01 (08:27):
It was you know what's crazy about that too when
you have an idea in your mindand it hasn't been done.
Don't get me wrong, we had a wehad a blueprint, if you will.
We we kept thinking of a socket,a socket, a socket, it has to
look something like a socket.
So we had a foundation, but toactually bring it to fruition
(08:48):
was a challenge.
And as we went along this, umwhat we did was we took like a
for our prototype, our proof ofconcept.
It was a hollow tube of a verythin metal, and then we welded a
washer to the back of that, andthen we cut a bolt, and then we
welded all that together.
(09:10):
And it's the most ugliestlooking, beautiful thing you've
ever seen, right?
And we tried it on the trailer,and sure enough, it worked.
And that's when the light bulbrealized, whoa, this is
something.
Now we just need to refine this.
And so that's when I startedgoing to like the local machine
shops around my area here inSouthern California.
(09:30):
Um learned a lot with that onebecause what I finally did, I
should have done in thebeginning.
This this tool is engineered tothe T, mind you, when I say
that, what I finally did,because I was just trying to go
out and tell people what Iwanted.
And I wasn't using the rightmaterials, I wasn't using the
(09:51):
right, the right hex.
I wasn't, I wasn't, I didn'tknow what to ask for.
So it was a lot of uh trial andarea, trial and error, rather.
When I say I've busted them,I've broken them, I've warped
them, I've I've smoked drillsuntil finally I said, you know
what, let me go find someone whoreally knows how to do this.
I found a good guy out ofIndiana.
(10:12):
Shout out to uh AlleghenyEngineering, uh Mr.
Ray Proud.
He uh listened to my flight, hetalked about it, he he uh he
designed it for me, and now whatyou see is what we have right
here.
That was kind of that is whathappened.
That is what happened.
Our final rendition right here.
SPEAKER_00 (10:32):
This is it.
Nice.
Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.
When you were designing that,what was the focus?
Speed, safety, easy to use.
What was the constant thing thatyou constantly kept coming back
to?
SPEAKER_01 (10:45):
It was it was all the things that happened during
the prototype phase where it wasbreaking.
Um, it it wouldn't hold up.
Um, it couldn't take the torquefrom the drill.
Uh I my thought was I don't wantthis to fail on the driver while
they're out.
I don't want this tool to be auh a hindrance to what we do
(11:08):
every day.
It should be easy, it should befast, it should be simple, it
should be sturdy, it should bedurable, it should be everything
I feel like what embodies truckdrivers at its core also.
Just to kind of be cheesy withit.
We're strong, we're durable,we're we're out there every day
putting in long hours.
This should match the tenacityof what we do.
(11:31):
And so that was my that was mymain focus on it.
Something that the guys thatreally, you know, okay, I got
this.
Yeah, let's go.
We we we're working.
That was the main thought.
And that's what I told RayAnderson.
I told my engineer guy, thissame thing, this is what I need,
and he he he brought it to life.
He brought it to life.
SPEAKER_00 (11:49):
Yes, what's up?
I love it.
Uh, teamwork makes dreams work.
Yeah, so I mean, you got thereal world impact.
What kind of feedback have youbeen getting from drivers out
there so far?
Have it been having any momentswhere someone used it and they
thought, hey man, yeah, that'sexactly what it's built to.
I like this.
SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
Yeah, some of the guys that uh some of the people
rather, and and small companiesthat have dared to buy what we
have, you know, we've gottenawesome feedback from Nil about
how, you know, it's it's makingthe job easier, it's saving
time, it's it's saving guysmuscles and and you know,
fatigue and all those type ofthings.
(12:29):
Um even when we when we firstwent to our first show, when we
first showed this in California,I'd say 2023, California
trucking show, it is it is tosee the driver's reactions when
they see it.
The the the demonstration wegave you, they they got
emotional at times, like, oh myGod, like where has this been?
(12:53):
Oh my god, it's like it's it'samazing to see the reactions for
the guys that know what it is,who do this thing, and they're
just thankful that somebodyfinally paid attention to the
truckers.
That is a thing too when itcomes to our space.
Like, you know, we seetechnology growing around us
constantly.
(13:13):
Um, I mentioned AI earlier andsome of the other things you got
driving cars and metric vehiclesnow.
But like for our space, nothingreally changes.
Nothing really changes.
And if it does, it comes fromthe outside.
So I feel proud even that I canbe a truck driver, bring
something that can help us andhelp change the industry for the
better for all of us, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (13:34):
So yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, um, it only takes umsomeone to really push forward
and push through all of thosepain points and to provide a
solution where other peopledon't have to have that pain
point anymore.
So now you you did all thateffort, put that in to help
everyone else.
So yeah, great job, man.
SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
Yeah, why not a tricker?
Why not us, if anybody, somebodythat knows who's done it, who's
done it over two decades.
Why not one of us?
You know, that's right.
SPEAKER_00 (14:03):
Yeah, we can do more.
I mean, think about the idea.
That's uh what I like to say isidea is the most infectious
thing that um humans have.
It could be for a good thing anda bad thing.
Once you get that idea in yourhead, it's really hard to get it
out.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah, so you did it for good.
Uh, let's talk about the journeybecause a lot of people out
(14:24):
there have ideas, you know,they're riding around in their
truck or they got all thesegreat ideas, but uh turning the
idea into something real,physical product as uh that's a
whole different level.
Uh, what did that process looklike for you?
I mean, there was times I'm surethere were challenges that came
along the way.
SPEAKER_01 (14:44):
Well, I I will say this.
I will give you guys what Ithink the blueprint is.
First is the idea, like YoungRay said, you have an idea.
Next is follow-through.
You have to stay on it becausewhat I was afraid of, um, that I
have this thought, rather.
Well, there was this this, Idon't know what to call it, but
(15:05):
I have this theme where youthink of something and you speak
on it, and now it's out there.
And if you don't do it, somebodyelse will.
That idea will float and it'sgonna be getting inspected in
somebody else who's gonna havethe drive and have the tenacity
and have the ambition to do it,and you're gonna look up one day
like, I thought of that.
I thought of that.
(15:26):
I didn't want that for me,right?
And so, with thatfollow-through, afterwards, what
you have to do is some of thethings I said earlier.
You go, you do a proof ofconcept, you you do a very
rudimentary uh rendition of whatyou're doing to see will it even
work?
Are you gonna waste your time,you know?
And if it works, now you put youput you progress forward.
(15:48):
I would suggest now you go finda patent attorney so they can go
see if this is in fact in themarket.
And what they will do is takeyour idea, listen to you, um,
not take your idea, listen toyour idea, uh, and go look for
it in the marketplace.
And if it doesn't exist, they'lltell you, oh, you have
something.
And you go from there.
SPEAKER_00 (16:08):
You got a cool, cool step process going through
there.
But you hit on that one thingthere.
You said they'll take your idea,be like, wait a minute, no.
That is what a lot of peoplefear is that they go talk to
somebody and they're gonna takemy idea.
How'd you feel about that?
I mean, you're being vulnerablethere.
You're saying, Man, I got thisgreat idea.
I don't want to go to somebodythat probably want to take it
(16:29):
from me and tell me it'snothing, and then they do
something with it.
What would you say?
Exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (16:37):
Exactly.
That and find a good attorney.
I don't know of any patentattorney that will do that, but
you're there is the attorneyplan privilege, and you sign
NDAs and all this stuff beforeyou get going.
So they they can't.
But with that, you do you youyou find good guys, ask around,
get on the internet, findsomeone who can take that, I'm
(16:59):
sorry, listen to that idea andgo search for you to see if it's
in fact out there.
And if it's not, like I said,you move forward, you have to
pay fees.
Um, they get a a drawing andrendition made up, there are
claims that are made that arethat are stating what your idea
can't do.
And then once once all thatstuff is cleaned up and
everybody's cool with what itsays, uh, you design either
(17:22):
submit a design or utilitypatent.
And once you do that, you submitit in.
Um, after we've done that step,then we move forward in
production and trying to see ifwe can make this thing and push
it to market because now we'reprotected.
Now we're not putting a productin the market that's all intense
and purpose, but naked, and youknow, someone can come and take
(17:44):
it.
There's actually, there'sactually a competitor of ours
that's out there right now.
I feel like he's going throughthat exact thing where he's not,
he's not significantlyprotected, and people from other
countries are just they'rethey're having their way.
But with that being said, withthat being said, um once you get
(18:04):
that, you then you go for uhyour marketing, you go for your
your product, you go for yourpackaging, you go for all the
things that are gonna make itthe best tool possible.
It is a it is a is a lengthyprocess, but once you get all
these things going, and itcan't, it's a little trial by
error, once again, you're gonnamake mistakes and you're gonna
(18:26):
bump your head, but as long asyou correct those mistakes and
then get in, get around theright people, get into the right
spaces, um, follow your heart,uh, trust your gut even, you
know, when it comes to whatyou're doing, I think you'll be
okay.
Once all those things are done,pretty much, you just put one
foot in front of the other andkeep going.
(18:47):
There has been, there has beentimes where I won't, I'm not
gonna lie to you, I didn't knowhow I was gonna do some of the
stuff we were gonna do.
There have been times I didn'tknow how I was gonna make
payments.
There might there have beentimes I didn't know how we was
gonna get to show.
Um, but I kept going.
I kept figuring out.
And and you will, if you do havean idea, if you have anything
(19:08):
you want to do, I would suggestthat just don't stop.
There's always a way.
There's always a way.
If you give up, you you willfeel so bad out there, like when
it's when it's all said and donethat that you didn't put your
all in.
If you're made to give up, youmade the now, you just can't go
anymore, at least you tried.
And I know that's what I wantedto do.
(19:28):
At least I tried.
But we've been doing prettygood.
Every time something comes up,something makes a way, and we
continue to go forward andfurther, and we grow bigger and
stronger every time.
Right now, Turner Byrne is, likeI said, we're the leader in this
space.
Um, our social media iscontinuing to grow.
Our um our marketing continue togo, the word is getting out
(19:52):
about who we are, people aroundthe country and the world are
starting to figure out what wehave and what we're doing.
We we get uh notificationsconstantly, people from France,
Sweden, China, uh, Australia,you name it, for people going to
our site and seeing what theturn and barren adapter can do
and offer.
(20:13):
So that's just a little bit ofour journey.
It gets more detailed, but Iguess, you know, those are the
basics of what we did to getwhere we are today.
SPEAKER_00 (20:23):
That's awesome.
I'm extremely proud to have metyou and uh learned about the
product.
And I'm rooting for you, man.
I think that's amazing.
Uh, talk about the invention, Imean, that struggle that you go
through.
Some people have an idea, butthe effort has to go into, like
you're saying, pushing yourself,not giving up.
Um, not everybody's got that.
(20:44):
Not everybody's cut out forthat.
Not everybody's made to own abusiness.
And uh, even to the point of uhbeing a CEO and trying to run
that.
I mean, you think about NVIDIA,well, that guy he runs all day.
I mean, it's nuts.
So some people say I want themoney, I want the this prestige
(21:04):
and the ownership, but there's alot of work that goes with that.
I mean, they're going to sleepdreaming about this stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (21:11):
I mean, I have a similar, I have a similar uh
feel about it.
Like the feeling is mutual.
There, they're my my wife peeksat me, I go to bed, and I wake
up just I I wear all the hats.
I wear most of the hats in thecompany, brother.
So it is a thing.
(21:32):
It is a legit thing.
I sleep, I breathe, I eat, turnand burn.
Until it needs to, you know,making this tool to be the
safer, faster, more efficienttool for all the drivers out
there so everyone can benefitfrom it.
I'm not I'm not giving this up.
I'm not giving this up.
SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
No.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's uh that'sperfect.
And you take it to these truckshows.
I mean, think about the mathsexperience.
We're gonna talk about that.
Um, that's where I met you in2026.
Um, that I'm sure you've beengoing to more shows like that
and putting the message outthere.
What was the experience like foryou getting signed up and all
(22:11):
the work that goes into that?
SPEAKER_01 (22:13):
Oh, Matt's is maths is always amazing.
Yeah, we we have a good time inin Louisville, not Louisville,
Louisville.
They will correct you whenyou're there.
Um it it's it's it's It's alogistical headache coming from
California to Kentucky, I willsay, you're not gonna lie, but
it's fun.
It's fun.
We have to, you know, we get ourteam up there, we get our
(22:35):
materials up there, we we getour uh display unit where we
have so that display unit yousee, we had the idea to take two
landing gear, put them together,put wheels on them, and on one
side we have the adapter, andthe other side we have the
manual crank.
For the layman who choose tocome come to these shows and
(22:57):
see, no, this is what this feelslike.
Um, we had the idea, honestly,uh well, actually, the first
show we did, people wanted torace us for for, I don't know
why.
They just wanted to race us.
And so whenever we did theseraces, we would just have this
big crowd around us, peopletrying to see, could the people
beat the turn of burn?
So it's something that weincorporated um in the show that
(23:20):
we did from now on, just to givepeople that real world effect.
Hey, you think you can beat thetwo, come try.
And once you get tired of nowuse the turn and burn and see
the difference.
And it's like night and day,like, whoa, this is different.
This is different.
Um, that's just one experiencefrom the Mets.
Being there, meeting all theother vendors, the other uh, the
(23:43):
other retailers who are there,everybody's there who help make
the trucking industry moveforward.
The deals that get done, the thehandshakes that are made, the
the friendships that are thatare you know that are
cultivated.
It's a it's a it's a it's ahumbling experience to be around
that many truckers and to seethat much trucking in one space.
(24:07):
I think it's the biggesttrucking show in North America.
And so whenever we go, we have agreat time.
We always uh we always you knowmeet and greet the guys.
We show people what we have, wewe we we astonish some people.
Um yeah, the the mats is themass is always wonderful.
(24:27):
It's always great.
Along with any trucking showthat we really go to, the mask
holds a special place.
It was a place where we firstreally got our tops in and and
and kind of experienced like,okay, this is the big leagues.
This is the big leagues.
SPEAKER_00 (24:42):
Mass was awesome.
Nice.
Like, yeah, that's a great placeto cut your teeth, man.
That's a great place to findopportunities.
I mean, you got uh individualslike Larry Cother in there.
I mean, you had uh did MotherTrucker uh come over there too?
SPEAKER_01 (24:56):
No, we didn't see Mother Trucker uh this show.
We saw him at another show, um,but we didn't see him this show.
But we did see Larry.
Larry was gracious enough tocome by, um, use the tool, um,
see the tool, give a shout-outto us, um, even collaborated
with us on Instagram.
We had a post to go viral, wethink, honestly, because it had
(25:18):
a lot to do with him.
So I will say that.
Shout out to Big Larry.
Um uh we had Who Else Came by?
I think I think that was it whenit comes to like people with
real influence.
I did meet uh uh ClarissaRankin.
She was there also with Larry.
I think she runs a truckingschool somewhere back east.
Um, shout out to all the peopletoo, all the all the uh those
(25:41):
good black folks that are makingtrucking move and bringing
awareness to the space and umhaving people look at what we do
in a better light.
You know what I mean?
Shout out to all those guys,mother truckers too.
Um yeah, that that was that'spretty much it when it came to
the show.
The the four days we were there,three days we were there,
awesome time.
The woman treated us nice.
(26:02):
We can't wait to go back nextyear, honestly, um, and do it
again.
SPEAKER_00 (26:05):
Same here.
Yeah, absolutely.
Um, yeah, I like walking aroundand talking with everybody.
I had a chatter box and won'tstop.
SPEAKER_01 (26:16):
Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_00 (26:17):
Yeah, that's awesome, man.
So when people come over, theythey get it right away, they see
the benefit and the value.
Well, well, well, truckingready.
SPEAKER_01 (26:26):
No, no, not everybody.
You we we have haters.
But when you have haters, you'redoing something right, right?
Um, but I will say, with theteam that I have and what we
know, what we've realized, andwhat I know anecdotally about
trucking, there's not too muchpeople can hate on once they
start talking to us.
It it we just start using logicand facts.
(26:50):
And and I come in with thetrucking part of it.
When they when they try to askquestions, like we had a guy ask
one of our team members, like,will it work on the Kozad?
So they call me over, like, willit work on the Kozad?
And I just give them a look,like, come on, man.
And I tell the team member, theKozad don't have landing gear.
And he's like, Oh, you got it.
I was trying to get you, like,come on, man.
(27:12):
I mean, driving too long, comeon.
But uh, but along with all theother guys who come up and just
blatantly don't like it, theythey call us lazy.
You're you're taking the onlyexercise truckers get from them,
which is wild to me, right?
Um, and and just the sheer factthat like we're not being manly.
(27:34):
That's just that's a weenie man,uh, adapter for weenies.
And we just hold firm, safer,faster, more efficient.
Why why turn your arm when youcan just you know push a button
with your finger?
Honestly.
And and honestly, just to justto put a button on this, right?
It's not for all trucking.
(27:54):
I will say that.
No, I would say this isn't forall.
It could be.
You can use it for mosttrucking.
But like I said earlier, thereason I made it this is for the
dropping hooks.
The UPS guys, the Costco guys,the Walmart guys, the ports, all
those guys who are going to aterminal to pick up a trailer,
(28:16):
to go to a destination, to dropa trailer, to pick up another
trailer, to take back to aterminal, to do it again.
This is what it's for.
And for the drivers that say,Oh, this is this is lazy, this
is weak.
I really feel like they haven'texperienced that side of
trucking where you are legitmoving four or five, six
(28:37):
trailers every day.
You can do it, yeah.
It's doable.
We've been doing it forever, butlike it gets old.
It gets old.
And then you got bad trailer,you got bad landing gear, you
got the landing gear, uh crankhandle that's bent in the
boldest bent, and you can't evenpush it in to engage it.
(28:58):
Like, it just it does this everytime.
It's like, why are we we're in2026, people is the thing.
I wouldn't care, honestly, whatyou use to raise the lower
landing gear.
But I just feel like this stoneage Model T4 stuff we're doing.
No, no, no, get you, go get youone, go get you one.
(29:20):
Come on and talk to us, tearyour company, because this
should be a it should be asystem-wide changeover.
We feel like that's the only waythat speaking of that, if I may,
Ray, if I may go on a littlelonger.
SPEAKER_00 (29:34):
No, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:35):
For the people for the people who for the people
who do say, no, I don't want totake it off, I don't want to use
it because every time I drop thetrailer, I got to take it off
and put the train handle backon.
You're right.
I'm not, we're not suggestingyou do that.
It's counterproductive to why wemade the tool.
If every time, if you don't ownthe equipment, if you're an
(29:55):
owner operator or your companydriver and you're dropping and
hooking trailers that aren'tyours, it makes no sense for you
to go pick up a trailer.
I'm sorry, drive to a drive to atrailer, get out, take out the
crank handle, put on theturnaround adapter, use the
turnaround adapter, uh, get yourlook, connect your airlines, go
(30:16):
to your destination, get there,truck array, use the turnaround
lower landing gear, take out theturnaround adapter, put on put
the crank handle back on just togo to the trailer right next to
you and do the same thing again.
No, no, we even know that'sstupid.
It's weird, it's dumb.
We know that.
So, what we're suggesting is forcompanies to get involved, see
(30:40):
the benefits of this, therepeller strain injuries that it
can have on your drivers, thetime savers it can have for
those who run about a load, theminutes it will save and
eventually make drivers andcompanies, we believe, more
money.
This is what we're talkingabout, a system-wide change.
And when you get to a trailerand one of these is on it,
(31:03):
you're simply putting your drillon, connecting to it, raising it
up, and getting out of there.
You're turning and burning.
Hence the name of the school.
Turn and burn.
This is what we're promoting.
This is what we want.
And we have our way.
We're gonna keep going and we'regonna get this change made, even
though some people feel likeit's impossible.
Well, how do I what happens whenthis happens?
(31:25):
And what happens with truckarray was one?
What happens when when the drilldies?
Okay, okay, you one, don't letthe drill die.
Don't let the battery die.
Uh, you keep an extra batterywith you that's charging all
times.
That way, if the drill, if thebattery does die, you just pop
that out.
Put the one that's dead back onthe charge, and you're good.
(31:46):
Two, you keep the crank handlewith you just for just for such
emergency.
If you have to use it foranything, or this drill won't
work, your crank handle isalways there to do it the old
way.
Now, I know some drivers don'twant to put it back on, but
sometimes you just might haveto.
Sometimes you may.
And third, like it's 2026.
(32:08):
It's 2026.
So, with that said, um, we feellike what our tool is here to do
and provide uh for trucking isessential.
Um, it's the wave, it's the new,it's the future of what we do,
and we feel like it's the bestthing going.
SPEAKER_00 (32:25):
So I like that.
Yeah, I mean, why not haveanother option?
Versus uh, I think I was with uha driver and he was getting
ready to do a trailer swap, andhe actually tore his rotator
cuff right um right there.
Um and he had drive, he wasyeah, he put put in the work and
(32:48):
got back safe.
Uh, but you know, he could havenot been able to drive back.
I don't, but that was hischoice.
But yeah, I mean he uh he wasthat was a painful surgery he
had to go through.
SPEAKER_01 (33:00):
You know what's you know what's interesting about
that is that um when therearen't many um concrete examples
of where you can tie an injuryto raising a lower the landing
gear, an injury to getting inand out of the truck, an injury
(33:23):
to opening up the back of atrailer, you know, uh an injury
to throwing a strap if you're ifyou're doing um flat beds, an
injury to rolling up a strap ifyou're doing flat beds, an
injury to throwing chains usingbinders, like all the things,
kicking tires, hitting thehammer on the top, checking,
(33:43):
checking every like for all thethings that truck drivers do
throughout their day.
This for all you people, all youtruck drivers saying, y'all just
lazy truckers, there's no suchthing, in my opinion.
Like for all the truck driversout there, 10, 12 hour days,
four or five, six hundred milesa day.
Um we keep America running.
(34:06):
There's not a lazy truck driverout there, in my opinion.
And especially for those, yougot those over the road, and you
got the local drivers, localdrivers are humping around their
cities doing their thing, nomatter what they're doing.
So, with that being said, withall the things we touch, with
all the things we have to thinkabout every day when it comes to
trucking.
(34:26):
If we can eliminate one of thosethings with this adapter, we
feel as though we improve thequality of a trucker's uh
situation and work.
And like I said, it's so hard.
It's funny you say that aboutwhat your drive, your friend
experienced with a torn rotator.
That could have been over timewith another thing that we do
(34:48):
throughout the day, but itfailed on him during the landing
year.
And vice versa, with somethingelse that happened to other
drivers, like you do thisprobably mostly, and then you go
do something else mean you.
You may throw a straight, oh,and you hurt yourself.
So to say that again, if we canremove one of these things, the
pain points in trucking, thatwhat we do, we think we make in
(35:10):
essence a healthier driveroverall.
It's something actually we'reworking on.
I I'll I'll I'll let the cat outof the bag on this one that
we're we're teaming up with auniversity, excuse me, on the
West Coast, trying to get astudy done where we can show the
benefits of an adapter, likefull-fledged, bona fide, legit
(35:31):
benefits of what Turner Crankover and over, over and over for
years and years does to thebody, and how an adapter like
what we produce changes that andimproves uh total health for the
drivers.
They actually had a studyalready uh that was done showing
that there is a uh uh not abenefit, there's a uh there's a
(35:56):
detriment to turning the cranehandle repeatedly for on and on.
And so um we're just waiting forhonestly the the administration
to kind of open the grants backup because they've closed
everything down.
Once that happens, we're gonnawe're gonna aggressively pursue
um that and hopefully we can geta uh well, not hopefully, we're
(36:17):
really pushing to get legitlanguage on why this is a
benefit for the truckingindustry.
SPEAKER_00 (36:24):
Yeah, I mean, those are the efforts that you need,
like not letting the dream die.
So um big up to you on that,man.
You see the benefits, you gottasee the big picture too.
You gotta zoom out.
You can't look at the tree, youcan't look at the forest.
You're gonna have to startlooking at the planet, you know.
So you'll be able to do that.
I like the yeah, I like I'm aspace guy too.
(36:45):
I like the trigger race.
Yeah, man, isn't that amazingthat these guys are out there
going up to the moon?
I mean, man, that should getmore um attention.
I think that's awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (36:56):
Uh well, the same guy, those same guys that say uh
turning around is lazy, theydon't think we've been to space
or to the moon.
So, yeah, that's my shot at youguys.
All you flat earthers and peopledon't think we've been to out of
space.
Like, come on, man.
Come on, come on, trust theexperts who've been doing it for
decades.
(37:17):
People who legit have been doingsomething for decades, but
instead you're going to listento somebody who started a
YouTube channel a week ago.
And oh, he's an expert on earthand space and the moon.
Gotcha.
This is how to do it.
SPEAKER_00 (37:32):
Yeah, there's a lot of misinformation out there.
People love to spread it.
Uh, that's why I'm glad I gotsomeone like yourself that's got
the original message for theturn and burn.
And uh yeah, I know there's alot of followers that will come
after this.
That's just flatter, flatteringof the industry of uh of your
product.
So keep doing the great work anduh others will follow, but uh
only a few will succeed.
(37:53):
So great job.
Yeah.
Um, I think it's gonna be greatfor the future for you guys.
I see the the culture changethat has to take place for it to
uh to keep expanding, and Ithink that's gonna be great.
I think you guys have a lot ofgood ideas there for the
language and all those thingsthat need to be done to help
people see the benefits and thevalue.
So that once they see that, thenit's uh it's an easy decision to
(38:15):
make.
So great job.
Yeah.
Uh so I hope we can spread moreuh message like this to other
people.
Uh, where we find your product,where's the best place to go?
Where would you send people?
SPEAKER_01 (38:27):
The best place to go is our website,
turninburnnow.com, t-r-n-n,b-ur-n-n-o-w dot com.
You can get on Google and put inturn and turn and burn landing
gear drill adapter.
We should pop up.
Um, we're also on Amazon, we'reon uh Hitch Expo, we're on
trailerdecks.com.
Those those are some of our uhcertified uh resellers.
(38:52):
Um also you can catch us onsocial media, all social media
turn and burn now,t-U-R-N-N-B-U-R-N-N-O-W.
SPEAKER_00 (39:00):
Um, that's where we are.
That's where we are.
That's awesome.
You got a great crew too, man.
I mean, the excitement that theyall bring to uh, you know, not
just one guy out there with thewith the drill.
I mean, you got guys helpingyou.
Man, how did that all comeabout?
Were you guys grew up togetheror you just find each other over
time?
SPEAKER_01 (39:18):
Well, the golden child is my uh little brother.
He's my uh actually mybrother-in-law, my wife's little
brother.
Robert, shout out, shout outMVP.
MVP definitely.
He can he can he can sell air toair and then get changed back.
Like that guy's he's he's cool.
Um then you got my guy Fly.
(39:41):
Um he he's from home, he's fromAtlanta.
Just a just a good guy that cantalk his talk his butt off to.
Then you had um the OG Albert.
Uh I got Albert used to be inthe trucking space.
He's retired now, but he alwaysgoes and shows and just kind of
shows up.
Um, he learned about us from afriend of mine who's actually
helping with some of our newerproducts that we're gonna be
(40:04):
bringing out soon.
And so he has a lot ofknowledge.
Albert has a pleasure ofknowledge about trucking in
general out of SouthernCalifornia.
He he can tell you who the bigplayers are today, what they
used to be in yesteryear, andhow they got there.
Also, he's a salesman too.
So Albert's amazing.
Um, then I got my guy William.
(40:25):
He's a former Marine.
He just has just that.
He's a former Marine, just aknow-how of a bunch of things.
He's very valuable.
And then, of course, our cameraguy, our our videographer,
Turner Barr Media, uh, our guyDoe DB DB Films.
Check him out, he's an awesomeguy.
(40:47):
That crew we put together uhthis year.
We've had our core of Robert,William, and I.
And we brought on the otherthree this year, and it just it
it just I I yeah, I got a goodgroup of guys to your point.
I thank you, Ray.
Thank you for for seeing.
I got a good group of guys.
We're gonna do a lot of damageout here with those group of
(41:08):
guys.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
That's great, man.
And you got that Californiaweather to keep you going, keep
you positive, thinking all thatvitamin D out there, that's
gonna help you come up withgreat ideas.
So, man, you know, I love thatweather out there, man.
I'm envious over here inMinnesota, boy.
I'm telling you, when you whenyou stop through, call us.
SPEAKER_01 (41:29):
We go, we'll go in the winery, we'll go we kick
back, man.
We call us when you come.
Let's go hang out.
SPEAKER_00 (41:36):
You got it, man.
Oh man.
So I appreciate you coming onthe show, Steven.
Uh, you sharing your story, Imean, sharing your the effort
that you have to put forth andget that all done.
I mean, that's very remarkable.
I think a lot of people will itwill resonate well with them as
well, for young ones too, outthere.
Uh, even if you're if you have adream and you've been sitting on
it for some time, maybe it'smaybe you're up in eight.
(41:58):
Don't give up.
Hey, you can still keep thatdream alive.
So it's practical problems, youknow, it can be solved.
So, I mean, this is definitelyone of those.
And uh this is something thatyou can actually use every
single day for truckers outthere in the industry.
So respect to you for buildingsomething that truly helps the
people out there doing thiswork, the hard work that's being
done is isn't easy.
(42:19):
So there's any way you can giveanother option uh to people that
hey, this is this is another wayyou can do it.
So maybe, maybe, um, maybe youcan't do the landing gear.
Hey, now you can now you cantruck.
That was one thing that washolding me back.
SPEAKER_01 (42:34):
That's right.
What we want to offer what thelanding gear, the turn and burn
landing gear drill adapter doesis streamline the coupling and
decoupling of um traileroperations and offers the option
where you can raise and lowerthe landing gear safer, faster,
more efficiently.
That's what we're here to do.
(42:55):
That's what we're here to do.
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
There's truckers out there that uh in wheelchairs and
they're they're trucking.
Um they got it.
We did, yes.
I was like, that's beautiful.
Um so yeah, yeah, keep going,keep going, don't stop.
That's right.
All right, so if anyone outthere has seen an episode, want
to share this with someone youyou care about, that say, hey
(43:18):
man, just take it a littleeasier, and it's the easy way to
do it.
Uh reach out to uh Turn andBurn.
They got the uh the contactinformation will be in the
notes.
I think you can share this uhepisode with those uh uh also uh
like trucking episodes oranything else uh for
entrepreneurs out there.
So let's keep on bringing realconversations, real people
making an impact in theindustry.
Until next time, it's your boyTruckin' Ray, and that's the
(43:42):
liver.
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