November 20, 2025 • 39 mins
Paris lit up with a bold promise: clothes that treat your skin while you wear them. This episode, our in-house aesthetician's dig into Coperni’s C+ “skin-infused” line and ask the questions that matter—what’s in the fabric, how do the actives deliver, where’s the clinical data, and does the value add up once the 40-wash limit hits? With decades of combined experience across professional skin care, we look past the glossy campaign film to assess materials, microbiome claims, and the real-world risks of heat, sweat, and occlusion on sensitive skin. If you care about skin health, honest marketing claims, and getting clients' real results for their dollars, this conversation is a can't miss.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
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SPEAKER_02 (00:34):
Welcome back to the Aesthetic Report.
I am Elizabeth Brazier.
SPEAKER_03 (00:39):
And I am Lani Stoker.
SPEAKER_02 (00:41):
And we are here with some interesting updates from
Paris Fashion Week of all theplaces to get skincare news.
I'm not sure that this was quiteon my radar.
I have been following some ofthe updates because I do like of
like a secret hobby, lovefashion and love design.
I love following brands, justseeing what they're doing.
(01:03):
Runways are always reallyinteresting.
People also kind of take them aslike a medium of what's really
going on in the world as well.
So it's that kickback of like,you know, what is this telling
us?
Where are we going in the world?
What are these designers doing?
New innovations, which is kindof where we are today with this.
(01:26):
So if you saw Copurney, which isfamously known for Bella Hadid's
2022 spray on dress, so I'm surewe remember that because I feel
like it was everywhere on theinternet, like you couldn't
escape it.
Like she walked down the runway,they sprayed it on, it was
beautiful, you know, brand newtextile technology.
I'm not sure that it's somethingthat would like hone over into
(01:50):
like the everyday person'scloset necessarily, but it got
them virality, you know, it gotpeople talking about their brand
house.
So we have to take that into thegrain of rice type of thing,
right?
When they launched this newskincare health fashion line,
I'm not even sure what you couldcall it because there really
(02:11):
isn't like a category for this.
So, what was your takeaway,Lanise?
I mean, we'll get into like theactual like details of what it
is, but like what's yourtakeaway on this?
What does this really mean forfashion and skincare?
SPEAKER_03 (02:27):
So I have I too have a fashion background.
Like I used to be a fashionbuyer in corporate retail for
the past 12 years before Iembarked my esthetician journey.
So I strongly believe there is aseamless conjunction with skin
and fashion.
However, not that literal likeCaperni is doing right now.
(02:51):
My initial thought is what?
But then researching it a littlebit, I mean for a company to
think outside the box, becausethat is what you have to do to
stay present, relevant, and allof those things, as we do as
estheticians every day.
Like, what can we do to be moreinnovative?
(03:14):
What are we doing to stand outfrom the next esthetician down
the street?
What are we doing?
But this, I don't know, as wetalk deeper into it, it's
definitely a new era, I guess.
Very unique, one of a kind, butI don't know.
Yeah.
What I don't understand is abouthow when you get to washing it
(03:36):
and how is it still adding valueto the city?
SPEAKER_02 (03:39):
I think there's there's some potential
limitations going on,definitely.
I do think they want to be theinnovative like driver on this.
So, you know, some some brandscan come in and maybe copycat
off of it.
I do feel like it's a little bitof a cash grab, too.
Now, like you said, with buyersand things like that, we have to
(04:01):
think, okay, what's gonna bringpeople in that maybe gives us
like a cash leg up right now andto stay relevant on people's
minds?
Like Caperna's not a line thatyou really think of as like a
big name house.
And I think that's where theystarted to pull in some of these
like tech-inspired, aesthetic,you know, textile type things,
(04:23):
which is very cool.
And I just like you, fashionbackground.
I was in fashion school for allof like 2.5 seconds, and
textiles was actually one of myfavorite classes that I took.
If I could have forayed intoanything, it would have probably
been textile development.
That was like the early days ofthe dry fit technology when that
started to become now, it's ineverything, right?
(04:46):
We see that dry fit on all kindsof things, scrubs, even right?
Yeah, yeah.
And so textiles ranges from alot of things.
Think your cars, think yourseatbelts, clothing, all of
that.
That is textiles, right?
And they have to be worn acertain way to utilize them and
(05:07):
to make them work the way thatthey need to.
So manufacturers have to putthat into thought process,
right?
So, what is this lineultimately?
They're calling it C plus, whichwhen I heard that, I was like
revisions whole like C pluscorrecting script and things.
I'm like, so I'm like, it'svitamin C.
Like, that's that's all my mindwent to.
(05:27):
I'm like, it's a vitamin C.
SPEAKER_03 (05:29):
Same.
I thought it was something to dowith vitamin C.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
I'm not really sure what the what the C plus has to
do with anything, but that'sneither here nor there.
So this is from what they say, anew era of clothing designed to
nurture your skin from dailylife to sport.
The regenerating garmentsdeliver active skincare benefits
throughout the day, boostingradiance and enhancing your
(05:53):
natural glow.
Okay, great.
That sounds wonderful, right?
But we love marketers, they canmake everything sound amazing.
So basically, these clothes areinfused with probiotics and
prebiotics meant to be absorbedthrough the skin, but they have
nearly a$200 price tag in USD.
(06:13):
I think Euros, it's like$150 to$180.
That's a lot.
That's a lot for a piece of pergarment.
Per garment, per garment.
And there's only four of themfrom what I saw online.
It was like two bodysuits andtwo leggings.
That's it.
That's all you got to choosefrom.
My thinking is, are you supposedto wear these daily?
(06:33):
And so you need like multiple ofthem, you know, because you
obviously you gotta wash them.
I can't imagine you're gonna belike, well, I'm gonna go work
out in this and then like notwash it.
SPEAKER_03 (06:42):
Right.
Um, don't we need the like I'mjust saying, I I pretty much
take a probiotic every day, likeyou're saying to your point.
So it's like, do you do youreplace that by wearing this?
Or is this just like, oh, I needan extra boost?
Yeah, I wear this today.
SPEAKER_02 (07:01):
My guess is that it's from a skin, skin healing,
like a microbiome restructuring.
Like it doesn't say necessarilythat these are pre and
probiotics for they they claimlike collagen boosting and
things.
Now the problem was I wasn'tseeing any clinicals on their
website as far as like we'vetested these, we've taken you
(07:21):
know, skin biopsies and actuallydone studies like long-term and
blah blah blah.
It's basically just saying,like, as you move, the garments
are gonna give off thesemicrobiotic like spheres onto
your skin.
The only thing is, is it onlylined on the inside?
Because that's really all that'stouching your skin.
What's what's happening with theoutside?
(07:41):
And like, is that just a wasteof money?
And the actual compound of thefabric is polymede, which is
like one of the cheapest, likeplasticky athleisure wear, you
know, textiles.
That's that's been one of thebiggest like arguments in
fashion lately.
Now, I'm coming from a holisticstandpoint, right?
(08:02):
I've been trying to limitmicroplastics in my world.
Whether you're for or againstthat, I do feel like we have too
much plastic in our lifetime andlike the fact that we're seeing
it like build up inside the bodyand it's causing a lot of
issues, things like that.
I've just tried to pull plasticout where I can from my daily
life.
It's not like it's it's kind ofimpossible to do everything,
(08:25):
especially when you have youngkids.
But like I switched a lot of mycooking wear.
I took away like plastic, likeTupperware containers and lids
and things like that.
Yeah, forks, knives, tune.
I don't even drink throughstraws that are plastic.
My my tea container that's likereusable is glass.
I'm doing everything on thatfront that I can.
Why would I want to wearsomething that's polymede all
(08:46):
day and giving off microplasticsonto me, shedding, and things
like that?
Also, it's just plastic's notgreat for our skin in the whole
set, especially a bodysuit, likewearing, like that's like
wearing polymede underwear onyour lady bits.
So there's a there's a lot ofissues that I have with that.
I don't feel like the microbacteria strain can really give
(09:10):
up.
Like, I just wear cotton, youknow, if that was the case,
because then your microfloraworks the way it's supposed to.
It's breathable, it's absorbent,you know, the way that it's
supposed to be.
I do have a company, and thisgoes more again for the Lady
Bits things, because I thinkthat's an important place if
you're gonna spend the money onfabric material technology.
(09:32):
I I have a brand that I boughtunderwear from called Hoo-Ha,
H-U-H-A.
Theirs is fully cotton, and thenthe gusset panel in the middle
is zinc-infused, so it helpswith inflammation and um
balancing and things like that.
I've seen silver-infused threadsfor like antimicrobial.
(09:53):
I think I've had towels that hadthat in there before.
So I'm not against infused orincorporated things into
textiles.
I think there is a case for it.
This, though, however, like youwere talking about, the
wash-off.
Now, did you see how many usesyou get out of it?
SPEAKER_03 (10:10):
I did.
And so that with the pricepoint, I don't know if that's
enough for me.
SPEAKER_02 (10:17):
Tell the listeners how many washes you get out of
the ware.
SPEAKER_03 (10:20):
You get 40 washes.
SPEAKER_02 (10:22):
40 washes.
And that's and that's apotential maximum.
So they're not even saying thatthat's like all of them are
gonna be that way.
It's like that's potentially howmany washes you get out of a
lifespan of so what what good isthe garment after you wash away
the technology?
SPEAKER_03 (10:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (10:38):
Are they gonna sell like a spray to like
reinvigorate it or something?
Oh my god, I probably just gavethem an idea.
SPEAKER_03 (10:46):
I just I'm just but you know what I mean.
I'm a bit speechless when itcomes to it because I'm a
creative naturally too.
So I get wanting to bedifferent.
And the skin-infused clothing iscatchy enough for somebody that
is highly into their skin, likeeven me.
(11:10):
But then I read about it andthen you tell me I pay$200 for
only$40.
It's not worth it to me.
SPEAKER_02 (11:16):
Yeah, let me see.
What is it?
And I don't even know today.
SPEAKER_03 (11:19):
What if and I don't know if it if there's no
clinical studies to show thatI'm actually even getting the
benefits of the probiotics andprebiotics too.
How can I trust that this isdoing what it says it's gonna
do?
With no reason, like I said, I'mlike putting plastic in my skin
to your point.
I haven't completely converted,but I'm getting there as far as
(11:42):
like we use a lot, everythingglass bowls here.
Now to go when I'm packingcertain things to go, I do still
sometimes in a crunch use aziploc bag, but I'm definitely
more conscious of the things uhwhen it comes to, like you said,
straws.
We have metal straws at home andstuff too.
(12:04):
And so I just I I stronglybelieve in that part and me,
then the estetician part comesto me like I'm about to have to
start doing a lot of bodytreatments if these people are
buying this and what's gonnahappen to their skin, especially
once it gets heated up.
That's what also kind of scaresme.
Like if this is a plastic typematerial and then you're running
(12:26):
and heating this up, and thebacteria is released onto the
skin.
What?
Yeah, um, I'm I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
That's what I'm like.
I really I need to see likeclinical data from because they
claim it's from a Swiss textilebiotech pioneer haiku, H-E-I
capital Q, that they have thepatent on this.
Now, again, Copernic has verybeautiful marketing and it's all
like, what is your lifestyle anda blah blah blah blah?
(12:55):
And you're gonna be so French inthis, whatever, yada yada.
Um but there's again, there's noclinical breakdown.
So I guess if you could find theactual patent for this, if
somebody could sluice for that,because I just I do not have the
brain capacity to do it rightnow.
I've been businessy, blah blahblah, like all all this morning,
and so I'm like I'm I'm hittingmax capacity on my brain.
(13:18):
But that's literally fivedollars a wear.
Like that's that's somebody whoit's like coffee order every
day, and then again, then you'releft with this plastic textile,
which I'll be honest, they'renot even cute enough that it's
something that I would wearevery day.
SPEAKER_03 (13:33):
I was just gonna say that too.
Like, even from the fashionperspective, because like seeing
the video, right?
If you watch the campaign video,guys, your first impression is
like the person is pretty muchnaked, right?
Like, or it's an illusion.
SPEAKER_02 (13:48):
Uh like I get I get the leggings, right?
Because at least that coverslike your bottom half.
But the body suits, I'm like,and the one that's like a tank
top, I'm like, okay, so that'scovering your nipples, your some
boob, and then like your tummyback, but it's like a thong, so
it's not even covering like thebutt area.
SPEAKER_03 (14:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:08):
Or someone might want if it if it does do
regenerative whatever, I don'teven feel like you're hitting
like you're not hitting chestarea, you're not hitting like
the main points of aging, youknow.
I mean, yeah, like a bra infusedwith some things, potentially.
I mean, if it could help firm,like yeah, I'm sure somebody's
(14:28):
gonna come up with it.
SPEAKER_03 (14:30):
Um they're working on it right now.
SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
They are, they are, yeah.
But again, I think this thiscomes back around to like that
whole of what are we seeingthese fashion houses doing and
what is it saying to us aboutwhere we're moving economically?
Yeah, and thing, and I thinkthis this line from the company
itself was very, very telling.
They said its latest innovationprioritizes sales rather than
(14:57):
brand awareness alone, right?
Which is a fancy way of sayingthis is a cash scrap.
SPEAKER_03 (15:01):
Yeah, this is for the money at the end of the day.
This is for the money.
SPEAKER_02 (15:05):
That was out of their mouths directly.
So, I mean, yeah, uh I don'tknow.
I mean, yes, like beautyfashion, that's always gone hand
in hand together.
But you're talking about again,like very superficial things,
right?
Yeah, skincare and fashion, Ifeel like it's tried to merge,
you know, when it comes to likethe aesthetic of bottles or how
(15:27):
things look and stuff like that.
But the actual like skincareingredients, like I said,
there's there's somewhere thatlike the the silver threads like
for for towels, I bought that sothat microbes wouldn't build up
on it.
Because I'm not someone who'sgonna wash my my body towel
every single day.
That's a lot of laundry, youknow?
Yeah.
Or hand hand towel, you know.
(15:49):
But I I think there's somewhereto go, but I don't think this is
it.
I think this is simply like,hey, we we need to stay relevant
and make money.
Yeah, um, so this is what we'regonna do.
SPEAKER_03 (16:02):
I mean, that's clearly what they said, and they
go for the viral moment.
So I'm sure people are sharingthis all over like, did y'all
see this?
Oh my gosh, what are they doing?
And this is what they want.
They want to go viral, they wantto be a disruptor in the market.
And uh, I think this is one wayto gain people's attention to
(16:25):
catch capture their attention.
And I thought it was quiteinteresting that they also
included in the comparison ofthe Kim Kardashian face wrap,
which we already talked, whichwe already talked about before.
SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (16:36):
But I don't even think that is that is not even
real.
Like, I don't believe in that,you know.
So these are these are strictlyour opinions, guys.
But you know, the C fromCapernay, I don't think it's
worth your coin to spend on.
Trendy, yes.
If you're that person like, Iwant to try the trendy things,
(16:59):
go for it.
SPEAKER_02 (17:00):
I mean, at the end of the day, it may not
necessarily hurt you in the timespan.
Um I don't know if it's goingto, I mean, you could spend that
on a really, really nice bodycare set, like something that
actually has ingredients, andthat's gonna last you like a few
months of use.
(17:20):
And I think you'd see more doingthat.
SPEAKER_03 (17:24):
Right, because I'm when I think of this and like
again the heat activation of it,and all that I'm like I'm seeing
rashes on people's skin.
I'm sorry, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (17:33):
No, and they they do claim it's it's dermatologist
tested, but my thing is is likeyou can have a dermatologist on
a testing stat.
And again, I want to see thistest because companies can pay
for tests to kind of lookhowever they want, but you can
have a dermatologist that youpay for on your staff and say,
Yep, good, green light.
(17:54):
That's how you put dermatologisttested on there.
It's not really like somethingthat is strictly watched when
companies say that.
So we really have to startasking ourselves like, why is a
company wanting to do this?
You know, what what is in it forthem?
Caperna's never done anythingskincare related.
Why now?
You know?
Um, yeah, I I don't know.
(18:15):
I feel like they need to go backto making spray on dresses for
like the average consumer, andthen maybe they'll make some
money.
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SPEAKER_03 (19:25):
Yeah, and I see they're they're taking art
taking orders.
I even read that they're likeshipping out starting November.
So they're really preparing thisfor a holiday release, you know,
and they know that that's thetime that people will buy crazy
things.
Like people will just be, oh,okay, cool.
(19:46):
I I need something unique for tobuy a gift for, and why not buy
some skin-infused clothing?
Skin care-infused clothing.
This is what I'm getting for mysignificant other this year, you
know, and I just think that'swhat they're banking on, not the
facts or even if this really isa real thing.
Because if they have a patent onthis, I would think they
(20:11):
wouldn't mention that they areonly doing this for money.
unknown (20:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:15):
I just that doesn't go hand in hand to me.
SPEAKER_02 (20:18):
Well, it's like it's the Swiss biotech company that
has the patent, and thenCopernic just uses the
ingredients.
The ingredients on the I don'tknow if the patents for the
actual technology being appliedto the fabric or if it's the
fabric itself that has thepatent.
(20:39):
So again, I'm like, there's somuch nuance here that it's like
it's missing context everywhere.
SPEAKER_03 (20:45):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (20:45):
And um, it's just something the average consumer
doesn't know the right questionsto ask.
So, like I said, that flowerymarketing sounds fabulous.
Why wouldn't we want skincare inour clothing?
Hell yeah.
I mean, like, add it on, youknow.
But, you know, when you reallylook at it, there's just it's so
(21:06):
limited if it does work, whichwe're still not even sure if it
does, and what for, you know?
But you know, it's like thatwhole thing of like, will we
start seeing it in spa linensand you know, aesthetic uniforms
and things like that.
And I don't know, potentiallywe're we're such a niche market
sometimes.
(21:27):
I don't think bigger companiesreally go after that because
again, the the market's pretty,pretty slow.
You know that as a buyer, right?
I mean, you're trying most aretrying to launch to the broad
consumer because that's wheremost of the money's gonna be
made.
Now, if you're someone that canlike retail things, like
(21:48):
wholesale it to your clients,they potentially would look into
that.
Like, hey, you already havepeople that are interested in
skincare, so we're gonna allowyou to wholesale these to your
clientele.
You know, sheets would beinteresting because you're
sleeping in them, but you'realso like a lot of times wearing
pajamas and things like that.
So I don't know.
But again, after you're you washit so many times, it's gone.
(22:11):
And then what?
You throw out the sheets, andlike can it even be put on
things like cotton or naturalfabrics?
And I mean, that's the thing,it's like a lot of my closet,
I've tried to get rid ofanything like polyester, at
least to as much as I can,holymede or stuff like that.
Even like the dress I waswearing to our headshots, like
(22:32):
that was fully linen, so it'slike cotton, like head to toe.
When the only thing is like myscrubs at work are I cannot, for
the life of me, find anythingnatural fabric because it does
wrinkle and stuff like that.
So, and it gets dirty easily,and so you know, like scrubs,
everything just washes off ofit.
And so, my me personally, if Icould like spend my time making
(22:58):
like a natural scrub line, Iprobably would, but I wouldn't
even know where to start withthat.
SPEAKER_03 (23:03):
When you just said that, it just made me think
about I did see a scrub linethat is for nursing moms,
though.
And I know that you have uh yourbaby.
And she she's actually one of myclients.
She came in for a mole removaland told me that she had a scrub
line for moms that are nursing.
(23:26):
And I'm gonna share it with youbecause I thought that was
really now that's innovative,right?
Like to where you don't have tolive up your whole scrub topic.
SPEAKER_02 (23:34):
It's hard because I always looked for something that
was zipper in the front becausenow I could put my pumps my
pumps in.
And so I had to buy like wholenew tops whenever I was pumping
or feeding my kids because youknow the the tops, yeah, they're
like tight up there or theydon't fit across the the chest
with you know your cups orwhatever in there.
(23:56):
But yeah, it's it's hard to findthose things.
But yeah, I'm like, if if Icould and I had the money to
spend on like making a uniformline that was like natural
fabrics, I would because even meand like the spot on that we
were trying to because we'revery like holistically based.
SPEAKER_03 (24:11):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (24:11):
And I was like, man, I should just probably wear like
linen loungewear sets to work atthis point because I can't find
anything.
Like polyester, especially sinceI got pregnant last year, makes
me sweat so bad.
Like I feel like I'm in a hotbox and I am just like sweating
hot everything, and I'm justlike, I want this off of me
(24:33):
immediately.
Like I it's just it's like avisceral reaction.
So if anybody decides to come upwith that before I do, great,
I'll buy it.
But but for now, I'm like, it'son it's on the board uh along
with many, many, many of theother things that I've got
working right now.
But yeah, I don't know ifskincare will make it into our
(24:54):
spa lines.
SPEAKER_03 (24:56):
As much as we would love it.
I mean, I think obviously,right, to make my life easy, I
would probably try it, but it'snot worth the price point
without enough resources.
SPEAKER_02 (25:11):
My thing is, I'm like, do I not wear lotion
underneath?
Do I I don't I don't know.
I don't know who this is for.
I I know because it doesn't andit says like you can go, but
then you can work out in it, andthen you're gonna be sweating in
it, and so it's like, is itgonna even be able to transfer
through all of that?
(25:33):
I don't know.
I'm like, there's so manyquestions, anything, and then
without answers, that means morerisk.
SPEAKER_03 (25:40):
And so uh yeah, I'm good.
SPEAKER_02 (25:43):
Yeah, like if it wasn't$200, I mean, say but that
for 40 uses, that's a lot.
And this I'm like this economy,you know, I can't I can't get
behind it.
But I can't so for us here onthe aesthetic report, it's a
flop, probably.
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Yeah, but yeah, I'd say that'sour takeaway.
I probably wouldn't spend themoney on it.
If you have an extra$200 lyingaround and you want to try it
out and let us know how it goes,go for it.
But I'd say for for themajority, it's probably not not
a go forth.
But what are your finalthoughts, Lenice?
SPEAKER_03 (26:25):
Skin infused clothing is not in my future.
I do believe the branding, themarketing, and all of that is a
great idea.
We just need a bit more researchin order for us to make an
educated decision, especiallywhen purchasing something that
you can only use about 40 timesfor$200.
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It just needs a little bit moreresearch for us.
And so for me, um, I'm gonnasay, yeah, I'm gonna pass.
Yeah, I'll wait to hear aboutthe reviews.
That's what I'll wait.
I'll wait to hear about it.
SPEAKER_02 (27:01):
I know.
I'm like, I'm I'm interested tosee if we are even gonna see any
kind of drive on the socialmedia marketing side because you
know they love to do likeinfluencer-based marketing.
So we'll see what comes out ofthat.
Although a lot of times I can'ttrust what they're saying since
a lot of times they're paid tosay nice things.
Right.
Um, but maybe some of thedermatologists and stuff will
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come forth and and meet us inwhat we're we're saying.
But I guess that gets us to ournext segment.
SPEAKER_03 (27:31):
All right, so product reviews.
I had the pleasure of reviewingand receiving skin script's
pumpkin enzyme, which isofficially now they transitioned
it to a pumpkin peel enzyme.
It's their most powerful enzyme,15% lactic acid.
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I I actually love lactic acid somuch because you get the
hydration plus the brighteningall at the same time.
Pumpkin is powerful.
People don't really realizepumpkin is a very powerful
ingredient.
So I know it's really big aroundthe holiday season, but this can
definitely be used year-round.
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It is a nice tingle factor, too,uh, with it.
So but if you are looking for anenzyme to dissolve the dead skin
and infuse your client's skinwith some antioxidants to leave
you with a nice healthy glow, Iactually did the pumpkin enzyme
on me too, like, and it smellsamazing, by the way.
But yes, this is uh I really Ireally love it.
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It's cliche, especially againaround October, November time
with pumpkin spice lattes andpumpkin facials everywhere.
But I can say I believe like inmy 10 years, skin script was the
first pumpkin experience that Ihad as far as the enzymes.
So I I would say they've beenpioneers in this.
And not to mention this enzymefor them is an award winner.
(29:02):
So yay, skin script.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (29:04):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I've used that like wayback in the day, and I used to
love doing chest treatments,like when somebody had a lot of
sun damage on it and like thedifference that it would make
almost instantly.
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (29:18):
Fantastic, you know.
SPEAKER_03 (29:19):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (29:20):
And then let's see, and I know we had one that we
tried together, but mine was theRhonda Allison acne cleansers.
So there was actually several,like five of them.
Yeah, which is a lot of cleanserto try.
Um but they are really, reallynice.
So there's something foreveryone in this, and Rhonda
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Allison's really been like a prostaple, especially in like the
acne space for several years.
So these were really, reallynice, very gentle on the skin,
even the ones with you know,some actives in them.
I don't use like activecleansers all the time.
I kind of have to be very pickyon where I put my actives in my
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routine.
But uh they were really, reallynice.
And I I think clients wouldreally enjoy putting them into
their routine.
A good cleanser goes a long,long way in a routine.
SPEAKER_03 (30:15):
Absolutely.
I think cleansers are theunspoken heroes most of the time
because if the skin isn'tcleansed properly, it's not
going to receive anything else.
SPEAKER_02 (30:25):
So, what was your thought about the rapid lash
perfect bead niacinamide spray?
This was very surprising.
I'm not sure what I wasexpecting.
So rapid lash perfect beadniacinamide spray.
So what were your first thoughtson this?
SPEAKER_03 (30:42):
Um, first of all, the bottle is very large.
It's big.
So I'm like, this is uh, I mean,very generous.
I think for a consumerstandpoint, I mean, I feel like
you get a lot for your book.
And I love that it's no scentand it can pretty much spray it
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pretty good.
Yeah.
I think I I'm I loveneosanamide.
If y'all have been listening tome for the past couple years,
neosanamide is one of myfavorite ingredients because
it's so calming yet powerful,brightens, hydrates, soothe the
skin.
So I was impressed that RapidLash is expanding, I guess, to
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skincare.
Yeah.
Um, so that was surprising, butyeah, okay.
I get it.
SPEAKER_02 (31:31):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was a large bottle because I
feel like it's meant to be usedon like body areas and things
like that for blemishes andmaybe oiliness as well.
Now I have to be a littlecareful with niacinamide.
For some reason, my skin justhas, y'all probably heard me
talk about this, it does, itjust doesn't have a great
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response to it.
So, about after a couple days oftrying it, my skin got really,
really dry.
And I already knew I'm probablynot the person for this.
So I handed it over to myhusband.
I was like, you can you starttrying it out because it's not
that it's a bad product.
I know that my skin andniacinamide just don't get
along, but but this is gonna begood for a majority of people,
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just not someone who has asensitivity to niacinamide, and
that's that's with that.
But uh let's wrap up and move onto our game.
Yay! Game time.
Yes.
So this one is called Rocket orKnocket, and so this is gonna go
back to what we've been chattingabout earlier in the episode.
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So this is all about futurefashion skincare ideas, so just
fake things that couldpotentially be things, and we're
gonna answer rocket or knock itbased on the prompts here.
Okay, are you ready to tap inwith your answer?
SPEAKER_03 (32:54):
Okay, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (32:56):
So retinol pajamas that release anti-aging benefits
overnight, rocket or knock it,knock it for sure.
So that would be a no-go foryou.
SPEAKER_03 (33:08):
It's a no, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (33:10):
Sounds cool, but no, yeah, and also it's like retin,
I mean, depending on how much isin there, too.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (33:16):
That's it's not enough information for me.
I can't yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (33:19):
Um, so the next one, LED lit face mask hoodie to
stimulate collagen and reduceinflammation, rocket or knock
it.
SPEAKER_03 (33:28):
I'm gonna say I might rock it.
SPEAKER_02 (33:32):
Yeah, I'm like LEDs infused into clothing.
Maybe would it be heavypotentially?
Like it's not something you canjust wear out of the house.
But I feel like with the newlike foam face mask type, like
they're making it moreaccessible to people to not have
to just like sit under a deviceor sit under a lamp or something
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like that.
Like you can just be watchingTV, you get up, go do something,
you know, cook dinner, whatever.
Um and you could have yourhoodie on, it could be for hair
stimulation.
Yeah.
So next one, your favoriteniacinamide socks that release
through friction and warmth tohydrate the feet.
SPEAKER_03 (34:17):
Uh so though I love neosinamide a lot, I I may have
to knock it because I knowthings can penetrate into my
body through the feet.
And so I'm really funny aboutstuff like that.
So I don't know.
I'm gonna, but for since I don'tknow, I'm gonna say knock it.
(34:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (34:38):
Obviously, I I I wouldn't be able to wear them.
If you probably have a horriblereaction, um, but I, you know,
there are those like socks thatare infused with like aloe and
different things.
I feel like a lot of them havelike a silicone cover, so that's
where most of the moisturizingcomes from.
But right, but there are socksthat are like we have seen stuff
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like this, right?
That there are like pedicuresocks that are infused with
conditioning agents for thefeet.
SPEAKER_03 (35:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (35:05):
And since feet and like hands, because I think you
have gloves that are like thatas well, that you can like wear
to bed and stuff.
Right now, antioxidant infusedbathing suit to neutralize free
radicals.
SPEAKER_03 (35:19):
Uh I'm gonna say knock it.
SPEAKER_02 (35:25):
Yeah.
Okay.
Post pill probiotic robe tosupport barrier repair.
SPEAKER_03 (35:33):
I mean, is this for a body pill?
I don't know.
Obviously, it might be for abody pill.
So I would say maybe I'll I'llsay rocket because anything to
help support the healing of achemical pill.
Yes.
And it's a robe, it should becomfy.
(35:56):
I think we may be okay.
But I think it's also a moneygrab.
It's not enough information.
SPEAKER_02 (36:03):
Yeah.
I'm like, if it helps with likethe recovery on like a laser,
like a body laser treatment orsomething like that, when the
skin's really heated, irritated.
I also tell people like, youknow, if like we're doing a
stomach tightening and tellthem, you know, you want to wear
loose clothing or likepost-late, like laser hair
removal, yeah, they'll be ableto wear loose, breathable
clothing.
Like we don't want bands orthings like touching the skin
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and holding in that heat.
So if there's like I have runinto issues with IPL on the body
and people wearing the wronggarment post procedure, and they
ended up getting heat burnsbecause of that.
So if there was a specialgarment that, you know, again,
you'd have to work that into theprice point, and maybe it
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wouldn't be feasible for them,but that they could wear post
procedure, that would be reallynice.
All right.
Anti-aging peptide jumpsuit thatimproves elasticity and reduces
fine lines.
SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
So, see, I may say yes to that, just because it's
telling me it's gonna reduceelastic, I mean, improve my
elasticity.
SPEAKER_02 (37:07):
We're talking like full body jumpsuit, like the the
goes up the like all the waydown.
SPEAKER_03 (37:12):
Yeah, so I would probably rock that.
unknown (37:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:15):
If I can make it look cute, maybe, but uh, I'm
like, are we talking aboutworking out in that?
Because I might die of heatexhaustion.
Um and then finally, our lastone aloe infused sunglasses to
soothe the eye area whileoffering UV protection.
SPEAKER_03 (37:32):
Uh yes.
You would?
I would do it.
It's probably crazy, but I loveto, I feel like the eyes keep
you looking young and youthful.
So I don't think aloe vera willhurt my eyes at all.
And of course, UV protection isgreat.
So yeah, sign me up for the aloeand peace sunglasses.
SPEAKER_02 (37:52):
I might see one if like somebody's wearing like an
eye mask to bed, you know, forsomething like that.
But I'm like the sunglasses, I'mlike, how would they touch this
the skin?
You know, yeah.
Unless they're like sittingright on top of it.
So I'm like, uh, I think theremight be some caveats to that,
but yeah, um, you know, someonecould work on it somewhere.
SPEAKER_03 (38:12):
Right, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (38:14):
All right, well, that wraps up our episode on
skincare and technology fashionfrom our very limited idea
series.
SPEAKER_03 (38:25):
Oh, yes.
This was a fun one though.
I mean, definitely unique.
We uh I mean, I feel like thesetype of topics are interesting
because we we don't never reallyhave like different unique niche
things, like niche like nichethings like this.
So I think this is great.
SPEAKER_02 (38:41):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And obviously they're trying tograb the money somewhere.
So we gotta stay ahead of themand we gotta stay knowledgeable.
SPEAKER_03 (38:48):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (38:49):
All right, we'll see you in the next one.
SPEAKER_03 (38:52):
Bye.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:34):
Welcome back to the Aesthetic Report.
I am Elizabeth Brazier.
SPEAKER_03 (00:39):
And I am Lani Stoker.
SPEAKER_02 (00:41):
And we are here with some interesting updates from
Paris Fashion Week of all theplaces to get skincare news.
I'm not sure that this was quiteon my radar.
I have been following some ofthe updates because I do like of
like a secret hobby, lovefashion and love design.
I love following brands, justseeing what they're doing.
(01:03):
Runways are always reallyinteresting.
People also kind of take them aslike a medium of what's really
going on in the world as well.
So it's that kickback of like,you know, what is this telling
us?
Where are we going in the world?
What are these designers doing?
New innovations, which is kindof where we are today with this.
(01:26):
So if you saw Copurney, which isfamously known for Bella Hadid's
2022 spray on dress, so I'm surewe remember that because I feel
like it was everywhere on theinternet, like you couldn't
escape it.
Like she walked down the runway,they sprayed it on, it was
beautiful, you know, brand newtextile technology.
I'm not sure that it's somethingthat would like hone over into
(01:50):
like the everyday person'scloset necessarily, but it got
them virality, you know, it gotpeople talking about their brand
house.
So we have to take that into thegrain of rice type of thing,
right?
When they launched this newskincare health fashion line,
I'm not even sure what you couldcall it because there really
(02:11):
isn't like a category for this.
So, what was your takeaway,Lanise?
I mean, we'll get into like theactual like details of what it
is, but like what's yourtakeaway on this?
What does this really mean forfashion and skincare?
SPEAKER_03 (02:27):
So I have I too have a fashion background.
Like I used to be a fashionbuyer in corporate retail for
the past 12 years before Iembarked my esthetician journey.
So I strongly believe there is aseamless conjunction with skin
and fashion.
However, not that literal likeCaperni is doing right now.
(02:51):
My initial thought is what?
But then researching it a littlebit, I mean for a company to
think outside the box, becausethat is what you have to do to
stay present, relevant, and allof those things, as we do as
estheticians every day.
Like, what can we do to be moreinnovative?
(03:14):
What are we doing to stand outfrom the next esthetician down
the street?
What are we doing?
But this, I don't know, as wetalk deeper into it, it's
definitely a new era, I guess.
Very unique, one of a kind, butI don't know.
Yeah.
What I don't understand is abouthow when you get to washing it
(03:36):
and how is it still adding valueto the city?
SPEAKER_02 (03:39):
I think there's there's some potential
limitations going on,definitely.
I do think they want to be theinnovative like driver on this.
So, you know, some some brandscan come in and maybe copycat
off of it.
I do feel like it's a little bitof a cash grab, too.
Now, like you said, with buyersand things like that, we have to
(04:01):
think, okay, what's gonna bringpeople in that maybe gives us
like a cash leg up right now andto stay relevant on people's
minds?
Like Caperna's not a line thatyou really think of as like a
big name house.
And I think that's where theystarted to pull in some of these
like tech-inspired, aesthetic,you know, textile type things,
(04:23):
which is very cool.
And I just like you, fashionbackground.
I was in fashion school for allof like 2.5 seconds, and
textiles was actually one of myfavorite classes that I took.
If I could have forayed intoanything, it would have probably
been textile development.
That was like the early days ofthe dry fit technology when that
started to become now, it's ineverything, right?
(04:46):
We see that dry fit on all kindsof things, scrubs, even right?
Yeah, yeah.
And so textiles ranges from alot of things.
Think your cars, think yourseatbelts, clothing, all of
that.
That is textiles, right?
And they have to be worn acertain way to utilize them and
(05:07):
to make them work the way thatthey need to.
So manufacturers have to putthat into thought process,
right?
So, what is this lineultimately?
They're calling it C plus, whichwhen I heard that, I was like
revisions whole like C pluscorrecting script and things.
I'm like, so I'm like, it'svitamin C.
Like, that's that's all my mindwent to.
(05:27):
I'm like, it's a vitamin C.
SPEAKER_03 (05:29):
Same.
I thought it was something to dowith vitamin C.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
I'm not really sure what the what the C plus has to
do with anything, but that'sneither here nor there.
So this is from what they say, anew era of clothing designed to
nurture your skin from dailylife to sport.
The regenerating garmentsdeliver active skincare benefits
throughout the day, boostingradiance and enhancing your
(05:53):
natural glow.
Okay, great.
That sounds wonderful, right?
But we love marketers, they canmake everything sound amazing.
So basically, these clothes areinfused with probiotics and
prebiotics meant to be absorbedthrough the skin, but they have
nearly a$200 price tag in USD.
(06:13):
I think Euros, it's like$150 to$180.
That's a lot.
That's a lot for a piece of pergarment.
Per garment, per garment.
And there's only four of themfrom what I saw online.
It was like two bodysuits andtwo leggings.
That's it.
That's all you got to choosefrom.
My thinking is, are you supposedto wear these daily?
(06:33):
And so you need like multiple ofthem, you know, because you
obviously you gotta wash them.
I can't imagine you're gonna belike, well, I'm gonna go work
out in this and then like notwash it.
SPEAKER_03 (06:42):
Right.
Um, don't we need the like I'mjust saying, I I pretty much
take a probiotic every day, likeyou're saying to your point.
So it's like, do you do youreplace that by wearing this?
Or is this just like, oh, I needan extra boost?
Yeah, I wear this today.
SPEAKER_02 (07:01):
My guess is that it's from a skin, skin healing,
like a microbiome restructuring.
Like it doesn't say necessarilythat these are pre and
probiotics for they they claimlike collagen boosting and
things.
Now the problem was I wasn'tseeing any clinicals on their
website as far as like we'vetested these, we've taken you
(07:21):
know, skin biopsies and actuallydone studies like long-term and
blah blah blah.
It's basically just saying,like, as you move, the garments
are gonna give off thesemicrobiotic like spheres onto
your skin.
The only thing is, is it onlylined on the inside?
Because that's really all that'stouching your skin.
What's what's happening with theoutside?
(07:41):
And like, is that just a wasteof money?
And the actual compound of thefabric is polymede, which is
like one of the cheapest, likeplasticky athleisure wear, you
know, textiles.
That's that's been one of thebiggest like arguments in
fashion lately.
Now, I'm coming from a holisticstandpoint, right?
(08:02):
I've been trying to limitmicroplastics in my world.
Whether you're for or againstthat, I do feel like we have too
much plastic in our lifetime andlike the fact that we're seeing
it like build up inside the bodyand it's causing a lot of
issues, things like that.
I've just tried to pull plasticout where I can from my daily
life.
It's not like it's it's kind ofimpossible to do everything,
(08:25):
especially when you have youngkids.
But like I switched a lot of mycooking wear.
I took away like plastic, likeTupperware containers and lids
and things like that.
Yeah, forks, knives, tune.
I don't even drink throughstraws that are plastic.
My my tea container that's likereusable is glass.
I'm doing everything on thatfront that I can.
Why would I want to wearsomething that's polymede all
(08:46):
day and giving off microplasticsonto me, shedding, and things
like that?
Also, it's just plastic's notgreat for our skin in the whole
set, especially a bodysuit, likewearing, like that's like
wearing polymede underwear onyour lady bits.
So there's a there's a lot ofissues that I have with that.
I don't feel like the microbacteria strain can really give
(09:10):
up.
Like, I just wear cotton, youknow, if that was the case,
because then your microfloraworks the way it's supposed to.
It's breathable, it's absorbent,you know, the way that it's
supposed to be.
I do have a company, and thisgoes more again for the Lady
Bits things, because I thinkthat's an important place if
you're gonna spend the money onfabric material technology.
(09:32):
I I have a brand that I boughtunderwear from called Hoo-Ha,
H-U-H-A.
Theirs is fully cotton, and thenthe gusset panel in the middle
is zinc-infused, so it helpswith inflammation and um
balancing and things like that.
I've seen silver-infused threadsfor like antimicrobial.
(09:53):
I think I've had towels that hadthat in there before.
So I'm not against infused orincorporated things into
textiles.
I think there is a case for it.
This, though, however, like youwere talking about, the
wash-off.
Now, did you see how many usesyou get out of it?
SPEAKER_03 (10:10):
I did.
And so that with the pricepoint, I don't know if that's
enough for me.
SPEAKER_02 (10:17):
Tell the listeners how many washes you get out of
the ware.
SPEAKER_03 (10:20):
You get 40 washes.
SPEAKER_02 (10:22):
40 washes.
And that's and that's apotential maximum.
So they're not even saying thatthat's like all of them are
gonna be that way.
It's like that's potentially howmany washes you get out of a
lifespan of so what what good isthe garment after you wash away
the technology?
SPEAKER_03 (10:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (10:38):
Are they gonna sell like a spray to like
reinvigorate it or something?
Oh my god, I probably just gavethem an idea.
SPEAKER_03 (10:46):
I just I'm just but you know what I mean.
I'm a bit speechless when itcomes to it because I'm a
creative naturally too.
So I get wanting to bedifferent.
And the skin-infused clothing iscatchy enough for somebody that
is highly into their skin, likeeven me.
(11:10):
But then I read about it andthen you tell me I pay$200 for
only$40.
It's not worth it to me.
SPEAKER_02 (11:16):
Yeah, let me see.
What is it?
And I don't even know today.
SPEAKER_03 (11:19):
What if and I don't know if it if there's no
clinical studies to show thatI'm actually even getting the
benefits of the probiotics andprebiotics too.
How can I trust that this isdoing what it says it's gonna
do?
With no reason, like I said, I'mlike putting plastic in my skin
to your point.
I haven't completely converted,but I'm getting there as far as
(11:42):
like we use a lot, everythingglass bowls here.
Now to go when I'm packingcertain things to go, I do still
sometimes in a crunch use aziploc bag, but I'm definitely
more conscious of the things uhwhen it comes to, like you said,
straws.
We have metal straws at home andstuff too.
(12:04):
And so I just I I stronglybelieve in that part and me,
then the estetician part comesto me like I'm about to have to
start doing a lot of bodytreatments if these people are
buying this and what's gonnahappen to their skin, especially
once it gets heated up.
That's what also kind of scaresme.
Like if this is a plastic typematerial and then you're running
(12:26):
and heating this up, and thebacteria is released onto the
skin.
What?
Yeah, um, I'm I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
That's what I'm like.
I really I need to see likeclinical data from because they
claim it's from a Swiss textilebiotech pioneer haiku, H-E-I
capital Q, that they have thepatent on this.
Now, again, Copernic has verybeautiful marketing and it's all
like, what is your lifestyle anda blah blah blah blah?
(12:55):
And you're gonna be so French inthis, whatever, yada yada.
Um but there's again, there's noclinical breakdown.
So I guess if you could find theactual patent for this, if
somebody could sluice for that,because I just I do not have the
brain capacity to do it rightnow.
I've been businessy, blah blahblah, like all all this morning,
and so I'm like I'm I'm hittingmax capacity on my brain.
(13:18):
But that's literally fivedollars a wear.
Like that's that's somebody whoit's like coffee order every
day, and then again, then you'releft with this plastic textile,
which I'll be honest, they'renot even cute enough that it's
something that I would wearevery day.
SPEAKER_03 (13:33):
I was just gonna say that too.
Like, even from the fashionperspective, because like seeing
the video, right?
If you watch the campaign video,guys, your first impression is
like the person is pretty muchnaked, right?
Like, or it's an illusion.
SPEAKER_02 (13:48):
Uh like I get I get the leggings, right?
Because at least that coverslike your bottom half.
But the body suits, I'm like,and the one that's like a tank
top, I'm like, okay, so that'scovering your nipples, your some
boob, and then like your tummyback, but it's like a thong, so
it's not even covering like thebutt area.
SPEAKER_03 (14:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:08):
Or someone might want if it if it does do
regenerative whatever, I don'teven feel like you're hitting
like you're not hitting chestarea, you're not hitting like
the main points of aging, youknow.
I mean, yeah, like a bra infusedwith some things, potentially.
I mean, if it could help firm,like yeah, I'm sure somebody's
(14:28):
gonna come up with it.
SPEAKER_03 (14:30):
Um they're working on it right now.
SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
They are, they are, yeah.
But again, I think this thiscomes back around to like that
whole of what are we seeingthese fashion houses doing and
what is it saying to us aboutwhere we're moving economically?
Yeah, and thing, and I thinkthis this line from the company
itself was very, very telling.
They said its latest innovationprioritizes sales rather than
(14:57):
brand awareness alone, right?
Which is a fancy way of sayingthis is a cash scrap.
SPEAKER_03 (15:01):
Yeah, this is for the money at the end of the day.
This is for the money.
SPEAKER_02 (15:05):
That was out of their mouths directly.
So, I mean, yeah, uh I don'tknow.
I mean, yes, like beautyfashion, that's always gone hand
in hand together.
But you're talking about again,like very superficial things,
right?
Yeah, skincare and fashion, Ifeel like it's tried to merge,
you know, when it comes to likethe aesthetic of bottles or how
(15:27):
things look and stuff like that.
But the actual like skincareingredients, like I said,
there's there's somewhere thatlike the the silver threads like
for for towels, I bought that sothat microbes wouldn't build up
on it.
Because I'm not someone who'sgonna wash my my body towel
every single day.
That's a lot of laundry, youknow?
Yeah.
Or hand hand towel, you know.
(15:49):
But I I think there's somewhereto go, but I don't think this is
it.
I think this is simply like,hey, we we need to stay relevant
and make money.
Yeah, um, so this is what we'regonna do.
SPEAKER_03 (16:02):
I mean, that's clearly what they said, and they
go for the viral moment.
So I'm sure people are sharingthis all over like, did y'all
see this?
Oh my gosh, what are they doing?
And this is what they want.
They want to go viral, they wantto be a disruptor in the market.
And uh, I think this is one wayto gain people's attention to
(16:25):
catch capture their attention.
And I thought it was quiteinteresting that they also
included in the comparison ofthe Kim Kardashian face wrap,
which we already talked, whichwe already talked about before.
SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (16:36):
But I don't even think that is that is not even
real.
Like, I don't believe in that,you know.
So these are these are strictlyour opinions, guys.
But you know, the C fromCapernay, I don't think it's
worth your coin to spend on.
Trendy, yes.
If you're that person like, Iwant to try the trendy things,
(16:59):
go for it.
SPEAKER_02 (17:00):
I mean, at the end of the day, it may not
necessarily hurt you in the timespan.
Um I don't know if it's goingto, I mean, you could spend that
on a really, really nice bodycare set, like something that
actually has ingredients, andthat's gonna last you like a few
months of use.
(17:20):
And I think you'd see more doingthat.
SPEAKER_03 (17:24):
Right, because I'm when I think of this and like
again the heat activation of it,and all that I'm like I'm seeing
rashes on people's skin.
I'm sorry, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (17:33):
No, and they they do claim it's it's dermatologist
tested, but my thing is is likeyou can have a dermatologist on
a testing stat.
And again, I want to see thistest because companies can pay
for tests to kind of lookhowever they want, but you can
have a dermatologist that youpay for on your staff and say,
Yep, good, green light.
(17:54):
That's how you put dermatologisttested on there.
It's not really like somethingthat is strictly watched when
companies say that.
So we really have to startasking ourselves like, why is a
company wanting to do this?
You know, what what is in it forthem?
Caperna's never done anythingskincare related.
Why now?
You know?
Um, yeah, I I don't know.
(18:15):
I feel like they need to go backto making spray on dresses for
like the average consumer, andthen maybe they'll make some
money.
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SPEAKER_03 (19:25):
Yeah, and I see they're they're taking art
taking orders.
I even read that they're likeshipping out starting November.
So they're really preparing thisfor a holiday release, you know,
and they know that that's thetime that people will buy crazy
things.
Like people will just be, oh,okay, cool.
(19:46):
I I need something unique for tobuy a gift for, and why not buy
some skin-infused clothing?
Skin care-infused clothing.
This is what I'm getting for mysignificant other this year, you
know, and I just think that'swhat they're banking on, not the
facts or even if this really isa real thing.
Because if they have a patent onthis, I would think they
(20:11):
wouldn't mention that they areonly doing this for money.
unknown (20:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:15):
I just that doesn't go hand in hand to me.
SPEAKER_02 (20:18):
Well, it's like it's the Swiss biotech company that
has the patent, and thenCopernic just uses the
ingredients.
The ingredients on the I don'tknow if the patents for the
actual technology being appliedto the fabric or if it's the
fabric itself that has thepatent.
(20:39):
So again, I'm like, there's somuch nuance here that it's like
it's missing context everywhere.
SPEAKER_03 (20:45):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (20:45):
And um, it's just something the average consumer
doesn't know the right questionsto ask.
So, like I said, that flowerymarketing sounds fabulous.
Why wouldn't we want skincare inour clothing?
Hell yeah.
I mean, like, add it on, youknow.
But, you know, when you reallylook at it, there's just it's so
(21:06):
limited if it does work, whichwe're still not even sure if it
does, and what for, you know?
But you know, it's like thatwhole thing of like, will we
start seeing it in spa linensand you know, aesthetic uniforms
and things like that.
And I don't know, potentiallywe're we're such a niche market
sometimes.
(21:27):
I don't think bigger companiesreally go after that because
again, the the market's pretty,pretty slow.
You know that as a buyer, right?
I mean, you're trying most aretrying to launch to the broad
consumer because that's wheremost of the money's gonna be
made.
Now, if you're someone that canlike retail things, like
(21:48):
wholesale it to your clients,they potentially would look into
that.
Like, hey, you already havepeople that are interested in
skincare, so we're gonna allowyou to wholesale these to your
clientele.
You know, sheets would beinteresting because you're
sleeping in them, but you'realso like a lot of times wearing
pajamas and things like that.
So I don't know.
But again, after you're you washit so many times, it's gone.
(22:11):
And then what?
You throw out the sheets, andlike can it even be put on
things like cotton or naturalfabrics?
And I mean, that's the thing,it's like a lot of my closet,
I've tried to get rid ofanything like polyester, at
least to as much as I can,holymede or stuff like that.
Even like the dress I waswearing to our headshots, like
(22:32):
that was fully linen, so it'slike cotton, like head to toe.
When the only thing is like myscrubs at work are I cannot, for
the life of me, find anythingnatural fabric because it does
wrinkle and stuff like that.
So, and it gets dirty easily,and so you know, like scrubs,
everything just washes off ofit.
And so, my me personally, if Icould like spend my time making
(22:58):
like a natural scrub line, Iprobably would, but I wouldn't
even know where to start withthat.
SPEAKER_03 (23:03):
When you just said that, it just made me think
about I did see a scrub linethat is for nursing moms,
though.
And I know that you have uh yourbaby.
And she she's actually one of myclients.
She came in for a mole removaland told me that she had a scrub
line for moms that are nursing.
(23:26):
And I'm gonna share it with youbecause I thought that was
really now that's innovative,right?
Like to where you don't have tolive up your whole scrub topic.
SPEAKER_02 (23:34):
It's hard because I always looked for something that
was zipper in the front becausenow I could put my pumps my
pumps in.
And so I had to buy like wholenew tops whenever I was pumping
or feeding my kids because youknow the the tops, yeah, they're
like tight up there or theydon't fit across the the chest
with you know your cups orwhatever in there.
(23:56):
But yeah, it's it's hard to findthose things.
But yeah, I'm like, if if Icould and I had the money to
spend on like making a uniformline that was like natural
fabrics, I would because even meand like the spot on that we
were trying to because we'revery like holistically based.
SPEAKER_03 (24:11):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (24:11):
And I was like, man, I should just probably wear like
linen loungewear sets to work atthis point because I can't find
anything.
Like polyester, especially sinceI got pregnant last year, makes
me sweat so bad.
Like I feel like I'm in a hotbox and I am just like sweating
hot everything, and I'm justlike, I want this off of me
(24:33):
immediately.
Like I it's just it's like avisceral reaction.
So if anybody decides to come upwith that before I do, great,
I'll buy it.
But but for now, I'm like, it'son it's on the board uh along
with many, many, many of theother things that I've got
working right now.
But yeah, I don't know ifskincare will make it into our
(24:54):
spa lines.
SPEAKER_03 (24:56):
As much as we would love it.
I mean, I think obviously,right, to make my life easy, I
would probably try it, but it'snot worth the price point
without enough resources.
SPEAKER_02 (25:11):
My thing is, I'm like, do I not wear lotion
underneath?
Do I I don't I don't know.
I don't know who this is for.
I I know because it doesn't andit says like you can go, but
then you can work out in it, andthen you're gonna be sweating in
it, and so it's like, is itgonna even be able to transfer
through all of that?
(25:33):
I don't know.
I'm like, there's so manyquestions, anything, and then
without answers, that means morerisk.
SPEAKER_03 (25:40):
And so uh yeah, I'm good.
SPEAKER_02 (25:43):
Yeah, like if it wasn't$200, I mean, say but that
for 40 uses, that's a lot.
And this I'm like this economy,you know, I can't I can't get
behind it.
But I can't so for us here onthe aesthetic report, it's a
flop, probably.
(26:06):
Yeah, but yeah, I'd say that'sour takeaway.
I probably wouldn't spend themoney on it.
If you have an extra$200 lyingaround and you want to try it
out and let us know how it goes,go for it.
But I'd say for for themajority, it's probably not not
a go forth.
But what are your finalthoughts, Lenice?
SPEAKER_03 (26:25):
Skin infused clothing is not in my future.
I do believe the branding, themarketing, and all of that is a
great idea.
We just need a bit more researchin order for us to make an
educated decision, especiallywhen purchasing something that
you can only use about 40 timesfor$200.
(26:48):
It just needs a little bit moreresearch for us.
And so for me, um, I'm gonnasay, yeah, I'm gonna pass.
Yeah, I'll wait to hear aboutthe reviews.
That's what I'll wait.
I'll wait to hear about it.
SPEAKER_02 (27:01):
I know.
I'm like, I'm I'm interested tosee if we are even gonna see any
kind of drive on the socialmedia marketing side because you
know they love to do likeinfluencer-based marketing.
So we'll see what comes out ofthat.
Although a lot of times I can'ttrust what they're saying since
a lot of times they're paid tosay nice things.
Right.
Um, but maybe some of thedermatologists and stuff will
(27:24):
come forth and and meet us inwhat we're we're saying.
But I guess that gets us to ournext segment.
SPEAKER_03 (27:31):
All right, so product reviews.
I had the pleasure of reviewingand receiving skin script's
pumpkin enzyme, which isofficially now they transitioned
it to a pumpkin peel enzyme.
It's their most powerful enzyme,15% lactic acid.
(27:52):
I I actually love lactic acid somuch because you get the
hydration plus the brighteningall at the same time.
Pumpkin is powerful.
People don't really realizepumpkin is a very powerful
ingredient.
So I know it's really big aroundthe holiday season, but this can
definitely be used year-round.
(28:14):
It is a nice tingle factor, too,uh, with it.
So but if you are looking for anenzyme to dissolve the dead skin
and infuse your client's skinwith some antioxidants to leave
you with a nice healthy glow, Iactually did the pumpkin enzyme
on me too, like, and it smellsamazing, by the way.
But yes, this is uh I really Ireally love it.
(28:38):
It's cliche, especially againaround October, November time
with pumpkin spice lattes andpumpkin facials everywhere.
But I can say I believe like inmy 10 years, skin script was the
first pumpkin experience that Ihad as far as the enzymes.
So I I would say they've beenpioneers in this.
And not to mention this enzymefor them is an award winner.
(29:02):
So yay, skin script.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (29:04):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I've used that like wayback in the day, and I used to
love doing chest treatments,like when somebody had a lot of
sun damage on it and like thedifference that it would make
almost instantly.
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (29:18):
Fantastic, you know.
SPEAKER_03 (29:19):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (29:20):
And then let's see, and I know we had one that we
tried together, but mine was theRhonda Allison acne cleansers.
So there was actually several,like five of them.
Yeah, which is a lot of cleanserto try.
Um but they are really, reallynice.
So there's something foreveryone in this, and Rhonda
(29:41):
Allison's really been like a prostaple, especially in like the
acne space for several years.
So these were really, reallynice, very gentle on the skin,
even the ones with you know,some actives in them.
I don't use like activecleansers all the time.
I kind of have to be very pickyon where I put my actives in my
(30:03):
routine.
But uh they were really, reallynice.
And I I think clients wouldreally enjoy putting them into
their routine.
A good cleanser goes a long,long way in a routine.
SPEAKER_03 (30:15):
Absolutely.
I think cleansers are theunspoken heroes most of the time
because if the skin isn'tcleansed properly, it's not
going to receive anything else.
SPEAKER_02 (30:25):
So, what was your thought about the rapid lash
perfect bead niacinamide spray?
This was very surprising.
I'm not sure what I wasexpecting.
So rapid lash perfect beadniacinamide spray.
So what were your first thoughtson this?
SPEAKER_03 (30:42):
Um, first of all, the bottle is very large.
It's big.
So I'm like, this is uh, I mean,very generous.
I think for a consumerstandpoint, I mean, I feel like
you get a lot for your book.
And I love that it's no scentand it can pretty much spray it
(31:04):
pretty good.
Yeah.
I think I I'm I loveneosanamide.
If y'all have been listening tome for the past couple years,
neosanamide is one of myfavorite ingredients because
it's so calming yet powerful,brightens, hydrates, soothe the
skin.
So I was impressed that RapidLash is expanding, I guess, to
(31:25):
skincare.
Yeah.
Um, so that was surprising, butyeah, okay.
I get it.
SPEAKER_02 (31:31):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was a large bottle because I
feel like it's meant to be usedon like body areas and things
like that for blemishes andmaybe oiliness as well.
Now I have to be a littlecareful with niacinamide.
For some reason, my skin justhas, y'all probably heard me
talk about this, it does, itjust doesn't have a great
(31:53):
response to it.
So, about after a couple days oftrying it, my skin got really,
really dry.
And I already knew I'm probablynot the person for this.
So I handed it over to myhusband.
I was like, you can you starttrying it out because it's not
that it's a bad product.
I know that my skin andniacinamide just don't get
along, but but this is gonna begood for a majority of people,
(32:16):
just not someone who has asensitivity to niacinamide, and
that's that's with that.
But uh let's wrap up and move onto our game.
Yay! Game time.
Yes.
So this one is called Rocket orKnocket, and so this is gonna go
back to what we've been chattingabout earlier in the episode.
(32:38):
So this is all about futurefashion skincare ideas, so just
fake things that couldpotentially be things, and we're
gonna answer rocket or knock itbased on the prompts here.
Okay, are you ready to tap inwith your answer?
SPEAKER_03 (32:54):
Okay, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (32:56):
So retinol pajamas that release anti-aging benefits
overnight, rocket or knock it,knock it for sure.
So that would be a no-go foryou.
SPEAKER_03 (33:08):
It's a no, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (33:10):
Sounds cool, but no, yeah, and also it's like retin,
I mean, depending on how much isin there, too.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (33:16):
That's it's not enough information for me.
I can't yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (33:19):
Um, so the next one, LED lit face mask hoodie to
stimulate collagen and reduceinflammation, rocket or knock
it.
SPEAKER_03 (33:28):
I'm gonna say I might rock it.
SPEAKER_02 (33:32):
Yeah, I'm like LEDs infused into clothing.
Maybe would it be heavypotentially?
Like it's not something you canjust wear out of the house.
But I feel like with the newlike foam face mask type, like
they're making it moreaccessible to people to not have
to just like sit under a deviceor sit under a lamp or something
(33:57):
like that.
Like you can just be watchingTV, you get up, go do something,
you know, cook dinner, whatever.
Um and you could have yourhoodie on, it could be for hair
stimulation.
Yeah.
So next one, your favoriteniacinamide socks that release
through friction and warmth tohydrate the feet.
SPEAKER_03 (34:17):
Uh so though I love neosinamide a lot, I I may have
to knock it because I knowthings can penetrate into my
body through the feet.
And so I'm really funny aboutstuff like that.
So I don't know.
I'm gonna, but for since I don'tknow, I'm gonna say knock it.
(34:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (34:38):
Obviously, I I I wouldn't be able to wear them.
If you probably have a horriblereaction, um, but I, you know,
there are those like socks thatare infused with like aloe and
different things.
I feel like a lot of them havelike a silicone cover, so that's
where most of the moisturizingcomes from.
But right, but there are socksthat are like we have seen stuff
(34:58):
like this, right?
That there are like pedicuresocks that are infused with
conditioning agents for thefeet.
SPEAKER_03 (35:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (35:05):
And since feet and like hands, because I think you
have gloves that are like thatas well, that you can like wear
to bed and stuff.
Right now, antioxidant infusedbathing suit to neutralize free
radicals.
SPEAKER_03 (35:19):
Uh I'm gonna say knock it.
SPEAKER_02 (35:25):
Yeah.
Okay.
Post pill probiotic robe tosupport barrier repair.
SPEAKER_03 (35:33):
I mean, is this for a body pill?
I don't know.
Obviously, it might be for abody pill.
So I would say maybe I'll I'llsay rocket because anything to
help support the healing of achemical pill.
Yes.
And it's a robe, it should becomfy.
(35:56):
I think we may be okay.
But I think it's also a moneygrab.
It's not enough information.
SPEAKER_02 (36:03):
Yeah.
I'm like, if it helps with likethe recovery on like a laser,
like a body laser treatment orsomething like that, when the
skin's really heated, irritated.
I also tell people like, youknow, if like we're doing a
stomach tightening and tellthem, you know, you want to wear
loose clothing or likepost-late, like laser hair
removal, yeah, they'll be ableto wear loose, breathable
clothing.
Like we don't want bands orthings like touching the skin
(36:26):
and holding in that heat.
So if there's like I have runinto issues with IPL on the body
and people wearing the wronggarment post procedure, and they
ended up getting heat burnsbecause of that.
So if there was a specialgarment that, you know, again,
you'd have to work that into theprice point, and maybe it
(36:47):
wouldn't be feasible for them,but that they could wear post
procedure, that would be reallynice.
All right.
Anti-aging peptide jumpsuit thatimproves elasticity and reduces
fine lines.
SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
So, see, I may say yes to that, just because it's
telling me it's gonna reduceelastic, I mean, improve my
elasticity.
SPEAKER_02 (37:07):
We're talking like full body jumpsuit, like the the
goes up the like all the waydown.
SPEAKER_03 (37:12):
Yeah, so I would probably rock that.
unknown (37:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:15):
If I can make it look cute, maybe, but uh, I'm
like, are we talking aboutworking out in that?
Because I might die of heatexhaustion.
Um and then finally, our lastone aloe infused sunglasses to
soothe the eye area whileoffering UV protection.
SPEAKER_03 (37:32):
Uh yes.
You would?
I would do it.
It's probably crazy, but I loveto, I feel like the eyes keep
you looking young and youthful.
So I don't think aloe vera willhurt my eyes at all.
And of course, UV protection isgreat.
So yeah, sign me up for the aloeand peace sunglasses.
SPEAKER_02 (37:52):
I might see one if like somebody's wearing like an
eye mask to bed, you know, forsomething like that.
But I'm like the sunglasses, I'mlike, how would they touch this
the skin?
You know, yeah.
Unless they're like sittingright on top of it.
So I'm like, uh, I think theremight be some caveats to that,
but yeah, um, you know, someonecould work on it somewhere.
SPEAKER_03 (38:12):
Right, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (38:14):
All right, well, that wraps up our episode on
skincare and technology fashionfrom our very limited idea
series.
SPEAKER_03 (38:25):
Oh, yes.
This was a fun one though.
I mean, definitely unique.
We uh I mean, I feel like thesetype of topics are interesting
because we we don't never reallyhave like different unique niche
things, like niche like nichethings like this.
So I think this is great.
SPEAKER_02 (38:41):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And obviously they're trying tograb the money somewhere.
So we gotta stay ahead of themand we gotta stay knowledgeable.
SPEAKER_03 (38:48):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (38:49):
All right, we'll see you in the next one.
SPEAKER_03 (38:52):
Bye.
SPEAKER_01 (38:53):
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