November 16, 2025 • 40 mins
Shawn Tierney meets up with Mark Berger of Siemens to learn how Siemens integrates SIRIUS ACT devices (push buttons, selector switches, pilot lights) with PROFINET in this episode of The Automation Podcast.
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Thank you for tuning back in to the
automation podcast. My name is Sean Tierney from
Insights.
And today on the show, we have a
special treat. We have Mark Berger back on
from Siemens
to bring us up to speed on serious
act. He's gonna tell us all about the
product, and then we're even gonna do a
small demo and take a look at it
working live. So with that said, let's go
ahead and jump into this episode with Mark
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Burger from Siemens and learn all about their
push buttons on PROFINET.
Mark, it's been a while since you've been
on the show. Thank you for coming back
on and agreeing to talk about this.
Oh, thank you so much. I truly appreciate
you letting me be on. I appreciate your
channel, and I enjoy watching it. And I'm
excited to show you some of this great
technology.
So I've got, the PowerPoint up here. We'll
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just do a simple PowerPoint to kinda give
you an overview, and then we'll dive into
the hardware. Appreciate it. Thank you. No problem.
So as we stated, the Sirius X over
PROFINET,
let me emphasize that, the,
actuators, the push buttons, the estops, the selector
switches,
they are all standard,
when you use these. So if you have
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those on the shelf,
the only thing that PROFINET does is that
it adds,
removes the normal contact blocks and adds the
PROFINET,
terminal blocks on the back. So every all
the actuators that we're showing are just standard
actuators
for the 22 millimeter
push button line.
So easy to use, modern design,
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performance and action,
and extremely rugged and flexible.
The,
22 millimeter is out of the box IP
69 k,
which for those who are maybe in the
food and beverage,
verticals
would understand what that is. And that's for
direct hose down, wash down,
able to handle a high pressure washing
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and not able to leak past the actuator
into the panel.
So IP 69 k is a a great
place for
dust and wash down and hosing and where
you're having rain and so forth,
to be able to protect for a keep
of any, water passing into the panel.
So introduction wise,
it's, the PROFINET
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push buttons for us. It it is, again,
the same actuators,
the same,
connections,
and so forth, but what we're going to
exchange is the terminal blocks,
for it.
So on there, I stated it's, IP 69
k is standard.
You don't need any,
extra covers forward or anything to fulfill that
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requirement,
But it's, it's insensitive to dust and oil
and caustic solutions,
you know, like citric acid where you're hosing
down some stainless steel parts and so forth.
Now what we have here is,
changing out
the terminal blocks that have wiring. So usually
on a push button, you have two wires
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coming in, and then you have, for illuminated,
you have two wires coming in and so
forth and going out. And after you have
20 or 30 push buttons or 10 or
15 push buttons, you've got a substantial little
bit of wiring or cabling that will be
passing from the door over into the main
cabinet of your control cabinet. What we're going
to do with PROFINET push buttons is we're
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going to eliminate all that wiring.
And then in addition, eliminate the input and
output cards that you will need for your
PLC
and take it down to a pro,
Ethernet cable, an r j r j 45
cable,
and then down to a 24 volts.
And that's all that will pass from the
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cabinet onto the door where you're mounting your
push buttons.
So,
huge,
safe and cost of wires.
We're reducing all the wire outlay. And, you
know, back in the day when I build
panels, it was an art how you got
all the wires all nice and pretty and
got them laid out and wire tied them
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down and so forth and just made the
a piece of art on the backside.
And then,
it it was all done. You got it
all wired. And then, of course, there was
somebody that said, hey. We forgot to add
another selector switch. So you had to go
back and cut all that stuff
and redo the whole layout and so forth.
So with PROFINET, it's extremely flexible
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and easily,
to adapt to if you need something,
more because you're not taking all that wiring
back to the panel,
passing it across the hinge of the door
and so forth.
It is also with a safety PLC.
You do have PROFIsafe,
so we can do estops on the door
as you can see here in the picture,
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but then we can do non safe applications
also. So today, we'll be just doing some
non safe applications.
And then the communications again is PROFINET.
But then also just to touch real quick,
we do have it on IO Link and
on Aussie with our push buttons.
So what is SiriusACT with PROFINET?
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There we go. So what you have is
the first,
block or interface module that you put on
the back of your push button, that's where
the,
Ethernet is plugged into and your 24 volts
is plugged into.
And then after that, subsequently,
then the push buttons that you have is
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that you have what we call a terminal
module.
And in between the, the interface module to
a terminal module
or from terminal module to terminal module, you
can go up to one meter
of cabling,
and it's a ribbon cable. And we'll show
that here shortly.
And then if you have up to we
can do up to 20 push buttons,
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terminal modules, with a total of 21 push
buttons.
And then so from the first interface module
all the way to the last push button,
you can go up to 10 meters.
And then it gives, again, 24 volt power
supply for it. And we have, again, as
I stated, as nonsafe,
talking just PROFINET, and then the safety version,
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talking PROFISAFE
on PROFINET.
So serious act,
we can go up on the the safety
up to seal three
and performance
level e as an echo.
We have, again, the the standard interface module
without safety.
You have the PLC, the interface module, and
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then the subsequent
terminal modules for it.
And then the cabling that goes from the
interface module to out to the terminal modules
is a simple ribbon cable
that comes into the back of the terminal
modules.
The only tool that you need is simply
it's just a screwdriver,
and, you,
push it into the terminal module, push down.
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It uses,
vampire
connections,
insulation displacement,
vampire connections,
and you push it down in. There's no
stripping of the wires.
There's no mix up. The indicator you can
see on the wires here in a minute
will show you that there's a little red
line that shows you, which way it, enters
into the terminal,
and then that's it. It's very straightforward. It's,
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very simple with tools.
And, as I stated, it's,
just like a normal push button that you'd
put on, but then we're gonna add,
remove the contact block and add the terminal
module or the interface module in the place
of the contact block.
Just to emphasize again, we can do PROFISAFE
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on, with a safety PLC
and a safety controller,
and we can give you all the safety,
requirements for the either the ISO or the
IEC
specifications for safety out there in the field.
Here's some of the part numbers.
First one, of course, is the interface module,
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and that has the ability to do PROFIsafe.
It has also, additionally,
four digital inputs,
one digital output, and then one analog input.
And we'll talk about that a little bit
more just in a few minutes. And then
the non safe version,
24 volts.
You have a,
two versions of this one, one with just
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with just a standard, 24 volts input,
but then there's an additional one that has
the four digital in, one digital out, and
one analog in. So there's two different part
numbers. One where you don't need the additional,
digital inputs and outputs and analog,
and then the and then the part number
with the the additional inputs and outputs.
But the safety one comes there's no other
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version, just the one.
Then you have what we call the terminal
modules, and there's three versions.
One terminal module is just the command module
only. It's mounted with two mechanical signaling
blocks to signal.
So you have two contact blocks built in.
Then you have one that's a terminal module
with the command, the terminal blocks, and then
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also an integrated LED.
And then you can put what color you
want the LED to be, and you can
see there the the part number changed for
red, blue, amber, so on.
And then you have a just an LED
module
to where it's no contactors. It's just LED.
And, I think with our demo we're gonna
show today, we're just gonna show the contact
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block
and LED module and only the LED module
today.
There's some other,
accessories
with the safety.
There's a memory module
to where that you, is all the configurations
are put into the memory module,
and something happens to that interface module.
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Everything's put in there, the IP address, the
configuration, and everything.
If something gets broke and so forth or
you have to replace it, you pull the
memory module out,
put the new terminal or interface module in,
plug in the memory module, cycle the power,
and it's up and running. All the configurations,
the IP address, everything's already there. And then
on the interface module, it does not come
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with an LED, so you're required to buy
this this, LED right here if you need
it for it, and that's what you use
for the interface module.
And then, of course, the ribbon cable that
goes between the interface module to the terminal
block or terminal module and terminal module and
so forth come in five meter length and
10 meter length.
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K. So what's it provide for you?
Well, the benefits are, I'll I'll be very
blunt. If it's just one or two buttons
on a panel, it won't be that cost
effective.
Yes. We're reducing the IO, the IO inputs
and outputs,
but for the savings, it's not the best.
Now when you get up to about three
or four push buttons,
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then that cost saving is, very realized.
Now when you go up to 20 push
buttons, yes, you're saving a lot of money,
especially in the IO cards that you're not
gonna be required to have. And then, of
course, all the wiring and the labor, getting
it all wired up and doing all the
loop checks to make sure that when you
push this button, it's wired into the right
terminal block on the IO card, so on
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and so forth. So about, the break is
about two to three push buttons to where
it will become very cost effective for you
to use it. But like I said yesterday,
without
PROFINET push buttons, it was all the wiring
you brought across
and putting them into all your IO cards
and so forth. And now with PROFINET
push buttons, all that goes away, and all
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you're bringing across is an Ethernet cable and
24 volts positive and 24 volts negative
across that hinge into the door.
And that's it.
K. And then emphasizing again, we can do
PROFIsafe
and those, push buttons and estops.
The estop can be part of your safety
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circuit
and give you the,
safety levels that you're required from either sill
and or performance level safeties depending on the
specification,
IEC, or ISO that you're following within your
plant.
K? And then hardware configuration.
Now this is where we step into
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reduction of engineering
and helping you guys get going,
quicker and making sure engineering is done properly.
You know, back in the day, we'd wire
up all the wires,
coming from the push buttons, you know, a
selector switch, a start button, stop button,
indicator lights, and so forth. And and all
those wires sometimes just, you know, the what
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we're working with, all the wires look the
same. You've put labels on them. You may
have labeled it wrong, and you wired into
an input card or an output card. So
there's some time where you're over there doing
some loop checks where you're trying to say,
yes. That's coming into input
byte
dot bit,
and that should be the selector switch. Well,
with the PROFINET push buttons,
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we're able to not have to worry about
that, and we're gonna demonstrate that just here
in a minute.
But you also
have a full lineup of the push buttons
coming into portal so that you can see
the lineup
and verify that it is the parts that
you want.
In TI portal, you can see that, of
course, the first, button is the interface module,
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and then sequentially
is the terminal modules that have either just
contactors,
LED and contactors, or just LEDs.
And we'll we'll show that just here momentarily.
But it's all integrated into TIA portal.
It has a visual representation
of all the push buttons,
and it's simple and fast,
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to, configure.
We'll show you that here in just a
moment. And there's no addressing,
for it. So some of the stuff that
you have out there, you have addressing,
making sure what the address is right, and
so on. This is a standardized
data management, and it's extremely time saving and
engineering saving for,
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the user.
Well, let me ask you a question about
that. If the snow addressing,
do the items show up,
in the order that they're wired? In other
words, you know, you're daisy chasing the you're
you're going cable to cable from device to
device. Is that the order that they show
up? That's exactly right. Okay. So if you
don't know which ones are what, you just
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literally put run your hand from the interface
module, follow that cable, and the next one
that will be visually
saw in portal will be the one that
it lands on first. Perfect. And then there's
a cable that leaves that one and goes
into the next one, daisy chained, and then
that's what'll be represented in that lineup. And
here in just a minute, we'll we'll show
that.
Alright. Thank you for that question.
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Okay. Now once I got it wired up,
how do I know that I got it
wired properly?
And we're gonna show that here in just
a minute. But just graphically wise,
you have the ability to see if it
is all wired up. You do not need
to plug it into the PLC.
This all it needs is 24 volts.
The PLC can come later and plugging it
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in later and so forth. There's no programming.
This all comes out of the box.
So once you plug it in,
if all on the backside looking at the
terminal blocks and the daisy chain ribbon cable,
if it's all green, you wired it up
properly, and it's working properly.
But then if you see a red light
flashing
either at the terminal module because that will
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that will bubble up to the terminal module.
So if you have a problem somewhere pardon
me, the interface module.
If you have some problem with the terminal
modules,
a push button like number two or three
or four, it will bubble up into the,
interface module to let it know, hey. We
got a problem. Can you look to see
where it's at? And as you see here,
we have maybe a device that's defective.
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And so it bubbles up into the interface
module to let you know, and a red
light lets you know that we have maybe
a defective module. You know, something hammered it
pretty hard,
or, it may have been miswired.
Then the second one down below, we've got
a wiring error to where you don't have
the green lights on the back and everybody
else's there's no green light shown. That means
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you have a wiring error.
Or if everything works great, it's green lights
across,
but then the next level of this is
is my push button working?
So then we you'll push or actuate the
push button or actuate the selector switch, and
the green light will flash to let you
know that that terminal module or interface module
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is working properly.
And we've done our our, loop checks right
there before we've even plugged it into the
PLC or your programmer has come out and
sat down and worked with it. We can
prove that that panel is ready to roll
and ready to go, and you can set
it aside. And if you got four or
five of the same panel, you can build
them all up, power it up, verify that
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it's all green lights across the board.
It is. Great. Set it down. Build up
another one and go on from there. So
it shows you fast fault detection without any
additional equipment or additional people to come in
and help you show you that. When we
used to do loop checks, usually had somebody
push the button, then yell at the programmer,
hey. Is this coming in at I zero
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dot zero? Yeah. I see it. Okay. Or
then he pushed another one. Hey. Is this
coming in on I 0.one? No. It's coming
in on i0. Three. So there was that
two people and then more time to do
that loop check or the ring out as
some people have called it. So in this
case, you don't need to do that, and
you'll see why here in just a minute.
And then, again, if we do have an
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interface module that,
maybe it got short circuited or something hit
it, it you just pull the ePROM out,
plug it into the new one,
bring in the ribbon cable, and cycle the
power, and you're up and running. Alright. And
then this is just some of the handling
options of how it handles the data,
with the projects and so forth,
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with basic setups,
options that you can be handling with this,
filling bottles.
What we wanna make sure to understand is
that if maybe push buttons,
you can pick
push buttons to work with whatever project you
want it to do.
So if you have six push buttons out
there, two of them are working on one,
bottle filling, and then the rest of them
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are working on the labeling, you can separate
those push buttons. Even though that they're all
tied together via PROFINET, you can use them
in different applications across your machine. You're saying
if I have multiple CPUs,
I could have some buttons in light work
with CPU one, PLC one, and some work
with PLC two? Yep. There's handling there. There's
programming in the backside that needs to be
done, but, yes, that can happen. Yep. Oh,
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alright.
So conclusion,
integrated into TI portal. We're gonna show that
here in a minute. So universal system,
high flexibility with your digital in, digital outs,
analogs,
quick and easy installation, one man, one hand,
no special tooling, and then substantially
reducing the wiring and labor to get it
going.
And then, again, integrated safety if, required for
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the your time.
So with that, let's, switch over to TI
portal. So I've already got a project started.
I just called it project three. I've already
got a PLC. I've got our,
new g, s seven twelve hundred g two
already in.
And then what I'm gonna do is I've,
already built up the panel.
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And,
Sean, if you wanna show your panel right
here. Yeah. Let me go ahead and switch
the camera over to mine.
And so now everybody's seeing my overhead. Now
do you want me to turn it on
at this point? It's off. Yeah. Yeah. Let's
do it. Gonna turn it on,
and all the lights came on. So we
have some push buttons and pilot lights here,
but the push buttons are illuminated,
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and now they've all gone off. Do you
want me to show the back now?
Yep. So what we did there is that
we just showed that the LEDs are all
working, and that's at the initial powering up
of the 24 volts. Now we're gonna switch
over and, you know, open up the cabinet
and look inside, and now we're looking on
the backside.
And if you remember in the PowerPoint, I
said that we'd have all green lights, the
everything's wired properly.
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And as you look, all the terminal modules
all have green lights, and so that means
that's all been wired properly.
If you notice, you see a little red
stripe on the ribbon cable.
That's a indication. Yep. To show you that.
And then if you look on the on
the out on the,
the interface module, Sean, there's it says out
right there at the bottom. Yeah. There's a
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little dot, and that dot means that's where
the red
stripe goes,
coming
out. So that little dot means that's where
the red stripe comes. Yep. Right there. And
that's how it comes out. And then if
you look just to the left a little
bit, there's another,
in, and there'd be a red dot underneath
that ribbon cable showing you how the red
the the red
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goes into it. Notice that everything's clear, so
you can see that the wire gets engaged
properly all the way in.
And then all you do is take a
screwdriver and push down, and then the vent,
comes in. The insulation displacement comes in
and,
and,
makes the connections for you. So there's no
strip tie cable stripping tools or anything special
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for doing that.
Another item, just while we're looking, if you
look in the bottom left hand corner of
that terminal module, you see kind of a
a t and then a circle and then
another t.
That's an indicator to let you know that
that's two contactors and an LED
that you have
on the backside.
We're talking about right here? Yep. Yep. Right
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there. Okay. So that's an indicator to tell
you what type of terminal block it is
a terminal,
block that it is. That's two contactors and
LED. And then if you look at one
in the bottom left hand corner, there's just
a circle. That means you just have an
LED.
So you have some indicators to show you
what you're looking at and so forth. So
today, we're just using the two,
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LED only, and then we're doing the contactor
and LED combination.
I I don't have one there on your
demo that's just the contactor. So Now you
were telling me about these earlier.
Yeah.
So yeah. The so if you look there
on that second row of the terminal blocks,
you have a UV and an AI,
and I'll show that in the schematic here
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in just a little bit, but there, that
is a 10 volt output.
If you put a 250
ohm or 250 k ohm,
potentiometer
and then bring that signal back into AI,
you have an analog set point that comes
in for it that will automatically be scaled
zero to 1,000 count or zero to 10
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volts. Mhmm. And then you can use that
for a speed reference for a VFD.
And it's already there. All you have to
do, you don't have to scale it or
anything. You can put it towards, you know,
okay. Zero to 1,000 count means zero to
500 PSI
or or zero to 100 feet per second
on a conveyor belt, and I'm I'm just
pulling numbers out. But that's the only real
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scalability scaling you have to do. So it'll
be a zero to 1,000 count is what
you'll see instead of, like,
yep. Then you got four digital ins that
you can use
and then a one digital out.
Now the four, I, kinda inquired wife just
four, but let's say that you have a
four position joystick. You could wire all four
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positions into that interface module, and then the
output could be something else for a local
horn that you want
or something to that case with it. So
you in addition to the,
push buttons, you also have a small,
distribution
IO block right there in the in your
panel.
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Which is cool. Yeah. I mean, maybe yeah.
Like you said, maybe you have something else
on the panel
that doesn't fit in with,
you know, this line of push buttons and
pilot lights like a joystick. Right? And that
makes a lot of sense. You were saying
too, if I push the button, I can
test to see if it's working.
Correct. So if you yep. Go right ahead.
I'm pushing that middle one right there. You
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can see it blinking now.
And that tells you that the contacts have
been made, and it's telling you that the
contacts work properly. And now I'm pushing the
one below it.
So that shows me that everything's working. The
contacts are working, and
we're good to go.
Yep. Everything's done. We've done the loop checks.
We know that this is ready to be
plugged into the PLC and handed off to
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whomever is going to be, programming the PLC
and bring it in, in which means that
we'll go to the next step in the
TI portal. Yeah. Let me switch back to
you, and we're seeing your TI portal now.
Awesome.
Okay. So I've got the PLC.
I've plugged it in to if if I
needed an Ethernet switch or I've plugged it
directly into the PLC.
Now I have just built up that panel.
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I haven't had anything,
done with it for an IP address because
it is a TCP IP protocol. So we
need to do a IP address, but it's
on PROFINET.
And then I'm gonna come here to online
access,
and I wanna see that I can see
it out there that I'm talking to it.
So I'm gonna do update accessible devices.
It's gonna reach out via my,
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Ethernet port on my laptop.
And then there's our g two PLC and
its IP address. So that's that guy right
here. Mhmm. And then I have something out
there called accessible devices, and then this is
its MAC address.
So what I and I just have those
two items on the network, but, you know,
you could have multiples as, you know, with
GI portal. We can put an entire
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machine in one project.
So I come here and drop that down,
and I go to online diagnostics.
I I go online with it, but I
don't have really a lot here to tell
me what's going on or anything yet.
But I come here, and I say assign
IP address.
And I call one ninety two,
one sixty eight, zero zero zero, and zero
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ten zero,
and then our usual 255,
two fifty five, two fifty five, and then
I say assign IP address.
Give it a second.
It's gonna go out and tell it, okay.
You're it. Now I wanna see if it
took, and you look right there, it took.
And I'm I'm kinda anal, so I kinda
do it again just to verify. Yep. Everything's
done. It's got an IP address.
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Now I'm gonna come up,
and I'm going to go to my project,
and I'm gonna switch this to new network
view. Here's my PLC.
I'm gonna highlight
my project. Now there's two ways I can
go about it, and I'm sure, Sean, you've
learned that Siemens allows you to kinda do
it multiple ways.
I could come in here and go into
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my field devices,
and I could come into my commanding and
interface modules, and I'd start building my push
button station.
But we're gonna be a little oh and
ah today. We're gonna highlight the project.
I'm gonna go to online, and I'm gonna
come down here to hardware detection
and do PROFINET devices from network.
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Brings up the screen to say, hey. I
want you to go out and search for
PROFINET industrial Ethernet.
Come out via my,
NIC card from my laptop, and I want
you to start search.
For those of you who watched my previous
episodes doing the e t 200 I o,
this is exactly the same process we used
for that.
Yep.
And I found something out there that I
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know I gave the IP address, but it
doesn't have a PROFINET name yet. So that's
okay. I've I got the IP address. We'll
worry about the PROFINET name. So we'll hide
check mark this, and this could be multiple
items. Mhmm.
K. So now add device.
And this is the sweet part.
And right here, it's done. It went out,
interrogated the interface
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module, and said, okay. Are you there? Yep.
I'm here. Here's my IP address.
And it also shared with it all of
come in here, double click on it now.
The real time saver. Yep. Yep. And then
now here's all the push buttons in your
thing. And let me zoom that out. It's
at 200%. Let's go out to a 100.
And now it already interrogated the interface module
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and all the terminal modules to tell me
what's in my demo.
Yep. And again, as you stated in your
questions, how do I know which one's the
next one? You just saw the ribbon cable
Mhmm. And then it brings you so forth
and so on.
So that's done. We're good. I'm gonna go
back to my network view, and I'm gonna
say, hey. I want you to communicate via
PROFINET to there,
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which I'm done. And then it also gives
you here's the PLC that you're gonna do
because, you know, if we have a big
project, we may have four or five of
these stations, and you wanna know which PLC
is the primary PLC on it. And then
we've done that.
I'm going to quickly just do a quick
compile.
And
next,
I'm gonna come here. I'm gonna click here.
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Now I could just do download and and
let the PROFINET name, which is here,
go into it. But I'm gonna right click,
and I'm gonna say assign device name
and say update list.
It's gonna go interrogate the network.
Takes a second. No device name assigned. No
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PROFINET name. So this is how we do
that time determinism
with PROFINET. So I'm gonna highlight it, and
I say assign the name,
and it's done.
Close.
So now it has a PROFINET name and
IP address.
So now I'm able to go in here
and hit download
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and load.
And we're going to stop because we are
adding hardware, so we are putting the CPU
in stop
and hit finish. Now I always make sure
I'm starting the CPU back up
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and then hit finish.
And then I'm gonna go online,
go over here and show network view, and
go online.
And I got green balls and green check
marks all over the board, so I'm excited.
This works out. Everything's done. But now what
about the IO? So now your programmer is
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already talking to it, but now I need
to know what the inputs and outputs are.
So go back offline,
double click here,
and then I'm gonna just quickly look at
a couple things.
The interface modules
IO tags are in a different spot than
the terminal modules. So just a little
note. It's right here. If you double click
on integrated I LED, you click here and
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then go to properties and say IO tags.
There it lists
all of
the inputs and outputs. So it comes here.
But if I do a terminal module, click
here,
then once you just click on it in
general oops. Sorry. In general, it's right here
in the IO addressing.
There's where it starts start the bytes,
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but then I come here to tags, and
then here's the listing.
So the the the programs automatically already
allocated the byte and the bit for each
of these guys. So if I click there,
there, click there, there's it there, onward and
upward. Now notice that the byte
so if I click on position four,
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it is three. So it's one
one less
because the base zero
versus here, it's five. Just give me a
little bit of a so if you look
in here, all that starts at I
four dot zero. I four dot zero.
So k. So that's there. So I'm gonna
come here.
I'm gonna go to the selector switch
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for this,
and I've called it s s one, and
that's input two dot zero.
Then I'm gonna click here,
and I'm gonna call this green push button.
Notice there's two inputs because I have one
contactor here, one contactor there,
and
30
and 31.
So then what I'm gonna do is that
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I'm going to go over here to the
PLC,
and I'm gonna go to and it's updated
my PLC tag table.
There you go. It's in there.
So then I'm gonna grab that guy. I'm
gonna because portal pushes you to use two
monitors.
I'm gonna come here,
go to the main OB,
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and then I'm gonna just grab a normally
open contact, drag it on,
drop it, put it in
there we go. And then I'm gonna grab
selector switch
and drop that right there,
and grab green LED
and drop that right there,
and then close that out
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and compile.
And everybody's happy. I'm gonna download
and say yes.
Okay. And then I'm gonna go online.
Alright. So it's waiting in for me to
switch that,
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and there you go. And if you wanna
see my screen there, Sean,
that's the green light is turned on. Yeah.
Let me switch over to Okay. Bring up
your, alright. And could you switch it back
off now? Yeah. No problem.
Yep. So there we go. We switch it
off. We switch it on. Now I wanna
show you something kinda cool.
If I turn that off
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and I come back here and I go
offline
Mhmm. I have a indicator light that needs
to flash to let the operator know that
there's something here I need you to attend
to.
So we used to put in some type
of timer. Right? Mhmm. Mhmm. And so what
we would do here instead of that, I'm
gonna come back down here to my tab
and go to the hardware config.
I'm gonna double click here.
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I'm gonna go to module parameters,
and
I'm gonna drop this down, and I'm gonna
put it at two hertz.
Also, just to point out, I can also
do a normally open contact and a normally
closed contact and switch them.
You see right here. Cool.
And I can control
the brightness of the LED if it has
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an LED,
and it's all hard coded into it. So
once I've done that, do a quick compile.
I'm I mean, you know, I've always compile
and then do download. Mhmm. Mhmm. So we're
gonna download that
and hit load
and finish.
(34:11):
K. Here we go. Turn that on,
and now it's flashing.
That's great. So you have a timer built
in.
If you need to flash, you don't have
to go get a clock bit or create
your own timer.
Plus, if it's a button, you can change
the contacts from normally open to normally closed.
That is very cool.
Yep. And that is PROFINET push buttons.
(34:33):
As I stated let me quickly pull that
up. Remember, you pointed out just a few
minutes ago, here is the wiring diagram for
that. So here's the back of that with
the terminal blocks.
And you come down here,
and it shows you that you just wire
in that,
variable resistor or a potentiometer.
(34:53):
And you see m and you there's the
10 volts, and then the signal comes into
a.
And then
that guy is right here.
Excellent. So if you come here, you go
to properties
and IO tags,
and it comes in on I 60 fours
and input and IO tags, and then I
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could call that a pot. Yeah.
And now you have a potentiometer that you
can use as a a speed reference for
your VFD.
That is very
cool. Engineering efficiency,
we reduced wiring.
We don't have all the IO cards that
is required,
and we have the diagnostics.
(35:37):
Emphasize that each of these here, their names,
you can change those if you would like
because this is your diagnostic string.
So if something goes wrong here, then it
would come up and say commanding. So you
double click here, and we go here to
general, and it'll say commanding and underscore LED
module two, or you can you can call
that
(35:58):
start
conveyor
p b.
And then that would change this. Now see
this changed it. This would be your diagnostic
string to let you know if if that
button got damaged or is not working properly.
You know, I wanted to ask you too.
If I had,
(36:19):
let's say I needed two potentiometers on the
front of the enclosure, could I put another
interface module in the system?
Even if it didn't have any push buttons
on it or pilots on it, could I
just put it in there to grab,
some more IO?
Yep.
Yes, sir. I have a customer that he
uses these as small little IO blocks.
(36:39):
Yeah. I mean, if you just needed a
second pot, it might make sense to buy
another interface module and bring it into that
than buying an analog card. Right? Assuming the
resolution and everything was app you know, correct
for your application, but
that's very cool. I you know, it it
really goes in line with all the videos
we've done recently
looking at e t 200 I o, all
the different flavors and types. And when you
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walk through here, you know, I'm just so
especially,
thankful that it reads in all the push
buttons and their positions and pilot lights.
Because if you have this on your desk,
you're doing your first project,
you can save a lot of dragging and
dropping and searching through the hardware catalog just
by reading it in just like we can
read in a rack of, like, e t
200 SPIO.
(37:21):
Yep.
Engineering efficiency, reducing wiring, reducing time in front
of the PC to get things up and
running.
You saw how quickly just a simple push
button and a and, you know, again, a
simple
start and turn that on and off the
races we went.
Well, Mark, I really wanna thank you. Was
there anything else that we wanted to cover
(37:42):
before we close out the show? Nope. That's
just about it. I think, we got a
little bit to have your your viewers,
think about for it. So I appreciate the
time, and I really appreciate you allowing me
to show this. I think this is a
a really engineering efficiency way of going about
using our push buttons and and,
making everybody's projects in a timely manner and
(38:03):
getting everything done and having cost savings with
it.
Well, and I wanna thank you for taking
the time out of your busy day, not
only to put together a little demo like
you have for me to use here in
the school,
but also to come on and show our
audience how to use this. And I wanna
thank our audience. This was actually prompted
from one of you guys out there at
calling in or writing in. I think it
(38:25):
was on YouTube somewhere and saying, hey. Could
you cover the PROFINET push buttons from Siemens?
I didn't even know they had them. So
thanks to the viewers out there for your
feedback that helps guide me on what you
wanna see. And, Mark, this would not be
possible if it wasn't for your expertise.
Thank you for coming back on the show.
I really appreciate it. Thank you, Sean.
All the best. Thank you. I hope you
(38:45):
enjoyed that episode. And I wanna thank Mark
for taking time out of his busy schedule
to put together that demo and presentation for
us and really bring us up to speed
on Sirius X. And I wanna thank the
user out there who put a comment on
one of my previous videos that said, hey.
Did you know
Siemens has this? Because I wouldn't have known
that unless you said that. So thank you
to all you. I try to read the
(39:05):
comments every day or at least every two
days, and so I appreciate you all wherever
you are, whether you're on YouTube, the automation
blog,
Spotify, iTunes,
Google Podcasts, and wherever you're listening to this,
I just wanna thank you for tuning in.
And now with next week being Thanksgiving,
we'll have a pause in the automation show,
then we have some more shows in December,
(39:26):
and we're already filming episodes for next year.
So I'm looking forward to,
releasing all those for you. And if you
didn't know, I also do another podcast called
the History of Automation.
Right now, it's only available on video platforms,
so YouTube, LinkedIn, and the automation blog.
Hopefully, someday we'll also do it on, audio
(39:46):
as well. But, we're meeting with some of
the really legends in automation
who worked on some of the really,
you know, just
really original PLCs, original HMIs,
up and through, like, more modern day systems.
So it's just been a blast having these
folks on to talk about the history of
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And so if you need something to listen
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(40:09):
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LinkedIn, but I think you guys will enjoy
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I won't be back next week, a very
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tuning in and listening, and I also wanna
wish you all good health and happiness. And
until next time, my friends,
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peace.
Thank you for tuning back in to the
automation podcast. My name is Sean Tierney from
Insights.
And today on the show, we have a
special treat. We have Mark Berger back on
from Siemens
to bring us up to speed on serious
act. He's gonna tell us all about the
product, and then we're even gonna do a
small demo and take a look at it
working live. So with that said, let's go
ahead and jump into this episode with Mark
(00:21):
Burger from Siemens and learn all about their
push buttons on PROFINET.
Mark, it's been a while since you've been
on the show. Thank you for coming back
on and agreeing to talk about this.
Oh, thank you so much. I truly appreciate
you letting me be on. I appreciate your
channel, and I enjoy watching it. And I'm
excited to show you some of this great
technology.
So I've got, the PowerPoint up here. We'll
(00:43):
just do a simple PowerPoint to kinda give
you an overview, and then we'll dive into
the hardware. Appreciate it. Thank you. No problem.
So as we stated, the Sirius X over
PROFINET,
let me emphasize that, the,
actuators, the push buttons, the estops, the selector
switches,
they are all standard,
when you use these. So if you have
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those on the shelf,
the only thing that PROFINET does is that
it adds,
removes the normal contact blocks and adds the
PROFINET,
terminal blocks on the back. So every all
the actuators that we're showing are just standard
actuators
for the 22 millimeter
push button line.
So easy to use, modern design,
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performance and action,
and extremely rugged and flexible.
The,
22 millimeter is out of the box IP
69 k,
which for those who are maybe in the
food and beverage,
verticals
would understand what that is. And that's for
direct hose down, wash down,
able to handle a high pressure washing
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and not able to leak past the actuator
into the panel.
So IP 69 k is a a great
place for
dust and wash down and hosing and where
you're having rain and so forth,
to be able to protect for a keep
of any, water passing into the panel.
So introduction wise,
it's, the PROFINET
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push buttons for us. It it is, again,
the same actuators,
the same,
connections,
and so forth, but what we're going to
exchange is the terminal blocks,
for it.
So on there, I stated it's, IP 69
k is standard.
You don't need any,
extra covers forward or anything to fulfill that
(02:31):
requirement,
But it's, it's insensitive to dust and oil
and caustic solutions,
you know, like citric acid where you're hosing
down some stainless steel parts and so forth.
Now what we have here is,
changing out
the terminal blocks that have wiring. So usually
on a push button, you have two wires
(02:52):
coming in, and then you have, for illuminated,
you have two wires coming in and so
forth and going out. And after you have
20 or 30 push buttons or 10 or
15 push buttons, you've got a substantial little
bit of wiring or cabling that will be
passing from the door over into the main
cabinet of your control cabinet. What we're going
to do with PROFINET push buttons is we're
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going to eliminate all that wiring.
And then in addition, eliminate the input and
output cards that you will need for your
PLC
and take it down to a pro,
Ethernet cable, an r j r j 45
cable,
and then down to a 24 volts.
And that's all that will pass from the
(03:34):
cabinet onto the door where you're mounting your
push buttons.
So,
huge,
safe and cost of wires.
We're reducing all the wire outlay. And, you
know, back in the day when I build
panels, it was an art how you got
all the wires all nice and pretty and
got them laid out and wire tied them
(03:55):
down and so forth and just made the
a piece of art on the backside.
And then,
it it was all done. You got it
all wired. And then, of course, there was
somebody that said, hey. We forgot to add
another selector switch. So you had to go
back and cut all that stuff
and redo the whole layout and so forth.
So with PROFINET, it's extremely flexible
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and easily,
to adapt to if you need something,
more because you're not taking all that wiring
back to the panel,
passing it across the hinge of the door
and so forth.
It is also with a safety PLC.
You do have PROFIsafe,
so we can do estops on the door
as you can see here in the picture,
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but then we can do non safe applications
also. So today, we'll be just doing some
non safe applications.
And then the communications again is PROFINET.
But then also just to touch real quick,
we do have it on IO Link and
on Aussie with our push buttons.
So what is SiriusACT with PROFINET?
(04:59):
There we go. So what you have is
the first,
block or interface module that you put on
the back of your push button, that's where
the,
Ethernet is plugged into and your 24 volts
is plugged into.
And then after that, subsequently,
then the push buttons that you have is
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that you have what we call a terminal
module.
And in between the, the interface module to
a terminal module
or from terminal module to terminal module, you
can go up to one meter
of cabling,
and it's a ribbon cable. And we'll show
that here shortly.
And then if you have up to we
can do up to 20 push buttons,
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terminal modules, with a total of 21 push
buttons.
And then so from the first interface module
all the way to the last push button,
you can go up to 10 meters.
And then it gives, again, 24 volt power
supply for it. And we have, again, as
I stated, as nonsafe,
talking just PROFINET, and then the safety version,
(06:01):
talking PROFISAFE
on PROFINET.
So serious act,
we can go up on the the safety
up to seal three
and performance
level e as an echo.
We have, again, the the standard interface module
without safety.
You have the PLC, the interface module, and
(06:22):
then the subsequent
terminal modules for it.
And then the cabling that goes from the
interface module to out to the terminal modules
is a simple ribbon cable
that comes into the back of the terminal
modules.
The only tool that you need is simply
it's just a screwdriver,
and, you,
push it into the terminal module, push down.
(06:45):
It uses,
vampire
connections,
insulation displacement,
vampire connections,
and you push it down in. There's no
stripping of the wires.
There's no mix up. The indicator you can
see on the wires here in a minute
will show you that there's a little red
line that shows you, which way it, enters
into the terminal,
and then that's it. It's very straightforward. It's,
(07:08):
very simple with tools.
And, as I stated, it's,
just like a normal push button that you'd
put on, but then we're gonna add,
remove the contact block and add the terminal
module or the interface module in the place
of the contact block.
Just to emphasize again, we can do PROFISAFE
(07:29):
on, with a safety PLC
and a safety controller,
and we can give you all the safety,
requirements for the either the ISO or the
IEC
specifications for safety out there in the field.
Here's some of the part numbers.
First one, of course, is the interface module,
(07:51):
and that has the ability to do PROFIsafe.
It has also, additionally,
four digital inputs,
one digital output, and then one analog input.
And we'll talk about that a little bit
more just in a few minutes. And then
the non safe version,
24 volts.
You have a,
two versions of this one, one with just
(08:13):
with just a standard, 24 volts input,
but then there's an additional one that has
the four digital in, one digital out, and
one analog in. So there's two different part
numbers. One where you don't need the additional,
digital inputs and outputs and analog,
and then the and then the part number
with the the additional inputs and outputs.
But the safety one comes there's no other
(08:34):
version, just the one.
Then you have what we call the terminal
modules, and there's three versions.
One terminal module is just the command module
only. It's mounted with two mechanical signaling
blocks to signal.
So you have two contact blocks built in.
Then you have one that's a terminal module
with the command, the terminal blocks, and then
(08:56):
also an integrated LED.
And then you can put what color you
want the LED to be, and you can
see there the the part number changed for
red, blue, amber, so on.
And then you have a just an LED
module
to where it's no contactors. It's just LED.
And, I think with our demo we're gonna
show today, we're just gonna show the contact
(09:17):
block
and LED module and only the LED module
today.
There's some other,
accessories
with the safety.
There's a memory module
to where that you, is all the configurations
are put into the memory module,
and something happens to that interface module.
(09:38):
Everything's put in there, the IP address, the
configuration, and everything.
If something gets broke and so forth or
you have to replace it, you pull the
memory module out,
put the new terminal or interface module in,
plug in the memory module, cycle the power,
and it's up and running. All the configurations,
the IP address, everything's already there. And then
on the interface module, it does not come
(10:01):
with an LED, so you're required to buy
this this, LED right here if you need
it for it, and that's what you use
for the interface module.
And then, of course, the ribbon cable that
goes between the interface module to the terminal
block or terminal module and terminal module and
so forth come in five meter length and
10 meter length.
(10:23):
K. So what's it provide for you?
Well, the benefits are, I'll I'll be very
blunt. If it's just one or two buttons
on a panel, it won't be that cost
effective.
Yes. We're reducing the IO, the IO inputs
and outputs,
but for the savings, it's not the best.
Now when you get up to about three
or four push buttons,
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then that cost saving is, very realized.
Now when you go up to 20 push
buttons, yes, you're saving a lot of money,
especially in the IO cards that you're not
gonna be required to have. And then, of
course, all the wiring and the labor, getting
it all wired up and doing all the
loop checks to make sure that when you
push this button, it's wired into the right
terminal block on the IO card, so on
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and so forth. So about, the break is
about two to three push buttons to where
it will become very cost effective for you
to use it. But like I said yesterday,
without
PROFINET push buttons, it was all the wiring
you brought across
and putting them into all your IO cards
and so forth. And now with PROFINET
push buttons, all that goes away, and all
(11:28):
you're bringing across is an Ethernet cable and
24 volts positive and 24 volts negative
across that hinge into the door.
And that's it.
K. And then emphasizing again, we can do
PROFIsafe
and those, push buttons and estops.
The estop can be part of your safety
(11:49):
circuit
and give you the,
safety levels that you're required from either sill
and or performance level safeties depending on the
specification,
IEC, or ISO that you're following within your
plant.
K? And then hardware configuration.
Now this is where we step into
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reduction of engineering
and helping you guys get going,
quicker and making sure engineering is done properly.
You know, back in the day, we'd wire
up all the wires,
coming from the push buttons, you know, a
selector switch, a start button, stop button,
indicator lights, and so forth. And and all
those wires sometimes just, you know, the what
(12:31):
we're working with, all the wires look the
same. You've put labels on them. You may
have labeled it wrong, and you wired into
an input card or an output card. So
there's some time where you're over there doing
some loop checks where you're trying to say,
yes. That's coming into input
byte
dot bit,
and that should be the selector switch. Well,
with the PROFINET push buttons,
(12:52):
we're able to not have to worry about
that, and we're gonna demonstrate that just here
in a minute.
But you also
have a full lineup of the push buttons
coming into portal so that you can see
the lineup
and verify that it is the parts that
you want.
In TI portal, you can see that, of
course, the first, button is the interface module,
(13:13):
and then sequentially
is the terminal modules that have either just
contactors,
LED and contactors, or just LEDs.
And we'll we'll show that just here momentarily.
But it's all integrated into TIA portal.
It has a visual representation
of all the push buttons,
and it's simple and fast,
(13:34):
to, configure.
We'll show you that here in just a
moment. And there's no addressing,
for it. So some of the stuff that
you have out there, you have addressing,
making sure what the address is right, and
so on. This is a standardized
data management, and it's extremely time saving and
engineering saving for,
(13:54):
the user.
Well, let me ask you a question about
that. If the snow addressing,
do the items show up,
in the order that they're wired? In other
words, you know, you're daisy chasing the you're
you're going cable to cable from device to
device. Is that the order that they show
up? That's exactly right. Okay. So if you
don't know which ones are what, you just
(14:16):
literally put run your hand from the interface
module, follow that cable, and the next one
that will be visually
saw in portal will be the one that
it lands on first. Perfect. And then there's
a cable that leaves that one and goes
into the next one, daisy chained, and then
that's what'll be represented in that lineup. And
here in just a minute, we'll we'll show
that.
Alright. Thank you for that question.
(14:37):
Okay. Now once I got it wired up,
how do I know that I got it
wired properly?
And we're gonna show that here in just
a minute. But just graphically wise,
you have the ability to see if it
is all wired up. You do not need
to plug it into the PLC.
This all it needs is 24 volts.
The PLC can come later and plugging it
(14:58):
in later and so forth. There's no programming.
This all comes out of the box.
So once you plug it in,
if all on the backside looking at the
terminal blocks and the daisy chain ribbon cable,
if it's all green, you wired it up
properly, and it's working properly.
But then if you see a red light
flashing
either at the terminal module because that will
(15:19):
that will bubble up to the terminal module.
So if you have a problem somewhere pardon
me, the interface module.
If you have some problem with the terminal
modules,
a push button like number two or three
or four, it will bubble up into the,
interface module to let it know, hey. We
got a problem. Can you look to see
where it's at? And as you see here,
we have maybe a device that's defective.
(15:41):
And so it bubbles up into the interface
module to let you know, and a red
light lets you know that we have maybe
a defective module. You know, something hammered it
pretty hard,
or, it may have been miswired.
Then the second one down below, we've got
a wiring error to where you don't have
the green lights on the back and everybody
else's there's no green light shown. That means
(16:01):
you have a wiring error.
Or if everything works great, it's green lights
across,
but then the next level of this is
is my push button working?
So then we you'll push or actuate the
push button or actuate the selector switch, and
the green light will flash to let you
know that that terminal module or interface module
(16:22):
is working properly.
And we've done our our, loop checks right
there before we've even plugged it into the
PLC or your programmer has come out and
sat down and worked with it. We can
prove that that panel is ready to roll
and ready to go, and you can set
it aside. And if you got four or
five of the same panel, you can build
them all up, power it up, verify that
(16:42):
it's all green lights across the board.
It is. Great. Set it down. Build up
another one and go on from there. So
it shows you fast fault detection without any
additional equipment or additional people to come in
and help you show you that. When we
used to do loop checks, usually had somebody
push the button, then yell at the programmer,
hey. Is this coming in at I zero
(17:03):
dot zero? Yeah. I see it. Okay. Or
then he pushed another one. Hey. Is this
coming in on I 0.one? No. It's coming
in on i0. Three. So there was that
two people and then more time to do
that loop check or the ring out as
some people have called it. So in this
case, you don't need to do that, and
you'll see why here in just a minute.
And then, again, if we do have an
(17:24):
interface module that,
maybe it got short circuited or something hit
it, it you just pull the ePROM out,
plug it into the new one,
bring in the ribbon cable, and cycle the
power, and you're up and running. Alright. And
then this is just some of the handling
options of how it handles the data,
with the projects and so forth,
(17:44):
with basic setups,
options that you can be handling with this,
filling bottles.
What we wanna make sure to understand is
that if maybe push buttons,
you can pick
push buttons to work with whatever project you
want it to do.
So if you have six push buttons out
there, two of them are working on one,
bottle filling, and then the rest of them
(18:05):
are working on the labeling, you can separate
those push buttons. Even though that they're all
tied together via PROFINET, you can use them
in different applications across your machine. You're saying
if I have multiple CPUs,
I could have some buttons in light work
with CPU one, PLC one, and some work
with PLC two? Yep. There's handling there. There's
programming in the backside that needs to be
done, but, yes, that can happen. Yep. Oh,
(18:27):
alright.
So conclusion,
integrated into TI portal. We're gonna show that
here in a minute. So universal system,
high flexibility with your digital in, digital outs,
analogs,
quick and easy installation, one man, one hand,
no special tooling, and then substantially
reducing the wiring and labor to get it
going.
And then, again, integrated safety if, required for
(18:50):
the your time.
So with that, let's, switch over to TI
portal. So I've already got a project started.
I just called it project three. I've already
got a PLC. I've got our,
new g, s seven twelve hundred g two
already in.
And then what I'm gonna do is I've,
already built up the panel.
(19:11):
And,
Sean, if you wanna show your panel right
here. Yeah. Let me go ahead and switch
the camera over to mine.
And so now everybody's seeing my overhead. Now
do you want me to turn it on
at this point? It's off. Yeah. Yeah. Let's
do it. Gonna turn it on,
and all the lights came on. So we
have some push buttons and pilot lights here,
but the push buttons are illuminated,
(19:33):
and now they've all gone off. Do you
want me to show the back now?
Yep. So what we did there is that
we just showed that the LEDs are all
working, and that's at the initial powering up
of the 24 volts. Now we're gonna switch
over and, you know, open up the cabinet
and look inside, and now we're looking on
the backside.
And if you remember in the PowerPoint, I
said that we'd have all green lights, the
everything's wired properly.
(19:55):
And as you look, all the terminal modules
all have green lights, and so that means
that's all been wired properly.
If you notice, you see a little red
stripe on the ribbon cable.
That's a indication. Yep. To show you that.
And then if you look on the on
the out on the,
the interface module, Sean, there's it says out
right there at the bottom. Yeah. There's a
(20:16):
little dot, and that dot means that's where
the red
stripe goes,
coming
out. So that little dot means that's where
the red stripe comes. Yep. Right there. And
that's how it comes out. And then if
you look just to the left a little
bit, there's another,
in, and there'd be a red dot underneath
that ribbon cable showing you how the red
the the red
(20:37):
goes into it. Notice that everything's clear, so
you can see that the wire gets engaged
properly all the way in.
And then all you do is take a
screwdriver and push down, and then the vent,
comes in. The insulation displacement comes in
and,
and,
makes the connections for you. So there's no
strip tie cable stripping tools or anything special
(20:58):
for doing that.
Another item, just while we're looking, if you
look in the bottom left hand corner of
that terminal module, you see kind of a
a t and then a circle and then
another t.
That's an indicator to let you know that
that's two contactors and an LED
that you have
on the backside.
We're talking about right here? Yep. Yep. Right
(21:19):
there. Okay. So that's an indicator to tell
you what type of terminal block it is
a terminal,
block that it is. That's two contactors and
LED. And then if you look at one
in the bottom left hand corner, there's just
a circle. That means you just have an
LED.
So you have some indicators to show you
what you're looking at and so forth. So
today, we're just using the two,
(21:40):
LED only, and then we're doing the contactor
and LED combination.
I I don't have one there on your
demo that's just the contactor. So Now you
were telling me about these earlier.
Yeah.
So yeah. The so if you look there
on that second row of the terminal blocks,
you have a UV and an AI,
and I'll show that in the schematic here
(22:01):
in just a little bit, but there, that
is a 10 volt output.
If you put a 250
ohm or 250 k ohm,
potentiometer
and then bring that signal back into AI,
you have an analog set point that comes
in for it that will automatically be scaled
zero to 1,000 count or zero to 10
(22:23):
volts. Mhmm. And then you can use that
for a speed reference for a VFD.
And it's already there. All you have to
do, you don't have to scale it or
anything. You can put it towards, you know,
okay. Zero to 1,000 count means zero to
500 PSI
or or zero to 100 feet per second
on a conveyor belt, and I'm I'm just
pulling numbers out. But that's the only real
(22:43):
scalability scaling you have to do. So it'll
be a zero to 1,000 count is what
you'll see instead of, like,
yep. Then you got four digital ins that
you can use
and then a one digital out.
Now the four, I, kinda inquired wife just
four, but let's say that you have a
four position joystick. You could wire all four
(23:05):
positions into that interface module, and then the
output could be something else for a local
horn that you want
or something to that case with it. So
you in addition to the,
push buttons, you also have a small,
distribution
IO block right there in the in your
panel.
(23:26):
Which is cool. Yeah. I mean, maybe yeah.
Like you said, maybe you have something else
on the panel
that doesn't fit in with,
you know, this line of push buttons and
pilot lights like a joystick. Right? And that
makes a lot of sense. You were saying
too, if I push the button, I can
test to see if it's working.
Correct. So if you yep. Go right ahead.
I'm pushing that middle one right there. You
(23:47):
can see it blinking now.
And that tells you that the contacts have
been made, and it's telling you that the
contacts work properly. And now I'm pushing the
one below it.
So that shows me that everything's working. The
contacts are working, and
we're good to go.
Yep. Everything's done. We've done the loop checks.
We know that this is ready to be
plugged into the PLC and handed off to
(24:08):
whomever is going to be, programming the PLC
and bring it in, in which means that
we'll go to the next step in the
TI portal. Yeah. Let me switch back to
you, and we're seeing your TI portal now.
Awesome.
Okay. So I've got the PLC.
I've plugged it in to if if I
needed an Ethernet switch or I've plugged it
directly into the PLC.
Now I have just built up that panel.
(24:30):
I haven't had anything,
done with it for an IP address because
it is a TCP IP protocol. So we
need to do a IP address, but it's
on PROFINET.
And then I'm gonna come here to online
access,
and I wanna see that I can see
it out there that I'm talking to it.
So I'm gonna do update accessible devices.
It's gonna reach out via my,
(24:52):
Ethernet port on my laptop.
And then there's our g two PLC and
its IP address. So that's that guy right
here. Mhmm. And then I have something out
there called accessible devices, and then this is
its MAC address.
So what I and I just have those
two items on the network, but, you know,
you could have multiples as, you know, with
GI portal. We can put an entire
(25:14):
machine in one project.
So I come here and drop that down,
and I go to online diagnostics.
I I go online with it, but I
don't have really a lot here to tell
me what's going on or anything yet.
But I come here, and I say assign
IP address.
And I call one ninety two,
one sixty eight, zero zero zero, and zero
(25:36):
ten zero,
and then our usual 255,
two fifty five, two fifty five, and then
I say assign IP address.
Give it a second.
It's gonna go out and tell it, okay.
You're it. Now I wanna see if it
took, and you look right there, it took.
And I'm I'm kinda anal, so I kinda
do it again just to verify. Yep. Everything's
done. It's got an IP address.
(25:58):
Now I'm gonna come up,
and I'm going to go to my project,
and I'm gonna switch this to new network
view. Here's my PLC.
I'm gonna highlight
my project. Now there's two ways I can
go about it, and I'm sure, Sean, you've
learned that Siemens allows you to kinda do
it multiple ways.
I could come in here and go into
(26:20):
my field devices,
and I could come into my commanding and
interface modules, and I'd start building my push
button station.
But we're gonna be a little oh and
ah today. We're gonna highlight the project.
I'm gonna go to online, and I'm gonna
come down here to hardware detection
and do PROFINET devices from network.
(26:41):
Brings up the screen to say, hey. I
want you to go out and search for
PROFINET industrial Ethernet.
Come out via my,
NIC card from my laptop, and I want
you to start search.
For those of you who watched my previous
episodes doing the e t 200 I o,
this is exactly the same process we used
for that.
Yep.
And I found something out there that I
(27:02):
know I gave the IP address, but it
doesn't have a PROFINET name yet. So that's
okay. I've I got the IP address. We'll
worry about the PROFINET name. So we'll hide
check mark this, and this could be multiple
items. Mhmm.
K. So now add device.
And this is the sweet part.
And right here, it's done. It went out,
interrogated the interface
(27:22):
module, and said, okay. Are you there? Yep.
I'm here. Here's my IP address.
And it also shared with it all of
come in here, double click on it now.
The real time saver. Yep. Yep. And then
now here's all the push buttons in your
thing. And let me zoom that out. It's
at 200%. Let's go out to a 100.
And now it already interrogated the interface module
(27:44):
and all the terminal modules to tell me
what's in my demo.
Yep. And again, as you stated in your
questions, how do I know which one's the
next one? You just saw the ribbon cable
Mhmm. And then it brings you so forth
and so on.
So that's done. We're good. I'm gonna go
back to my network view, and I'm gonna
say, hey. I want you to communicate via
PROFINET to there,
(28:04):
which I'm done. And then it also gives
you here's the PLC that you're gonna do
because, you know, if we have a big
project, we may have four or five of
these stations, and you wanna know which PLC
is the primary PLC on it. And then
we've done that.
I'm going to quickly just do a quick
compile.
And
next,
I'm gonna come here. I'm gonna click here.
(28:26):
Now I could just do download and and
let the PROFINET name, which is here,
go into it. But I'm gonna right click,
and I'm gonna say assign device name
and say update list.
It's gonna go interrogate the network.
Takes a second. No device name assigned. No
(28:48):
PROFINET name. So this is how we do
that time determinism
with PROFINET. So I'm gonna highlight it, and
I say assign the name,
and it's done.
Close.
So now it has a PROFINET name and
IP address.
So now I'm able to go in here
and hit download
(29:11):
and load.
And we're going to stop because we are
adding hardware, so we are putting the CPU
in stop
and hit finish. Now I always make sure
I'm starting the CPU back up
(29:33):
and then hit finish.
And then I'm gonna go online,
go over here and show network view, and
go online.
And I got green balls and green check
marks all over the board, so I'm excited.
This works out. Everything's done. But now what
about the IO? So now your programmer is
(29:53):
already talking to it, but now I need
to know what the inputs and outputs are.
So go back offline,
double click here,
and then I'm gonna just quickly look at
a couple things.
The interface modules
IO tags are in a different spot than
the terminal modules. So just a little
note. It's right here. If you double click
on integrated I LED, you click here and
(30:16):
then go to properties and say IO tags.
There it lists
all of
the inputs and outputs. So it comes here.
But if I do a terminal module, click
here,
then once you just click on it in
general oops. Sorry. In general, it's right here
in the IO addressing.
There's where it starts start the bytes,
(30:37):
but then I come here to tags, and
then here's the listing.
So the the the programs automatically already
allocated the byte and the bit for each
of these guys. So if I click there,
there, click there, there's it there, onward and
upward. Now notice that the byte
so if I click on position four,
(30:57):
it is three. So it's one
one less
because the base zero
versus here, it's five. Just give me a
little bit of a so if you look
in here, all that starts at I
four dot zero. I four dot zero.
So k. So that's there. So I'm gonna
come here.
I'm gonna go to the selector switch
(31:19):
for this,
and I've called it s s one, and
that's input two dot zero.
Then I'm gonna click here,
and I'm gonna call this green push button.
Notice there's two inputs because I have one
contactor here, one contactor there,
and
30
and 31.
So then what I'm gonna do is that
(31:40):
I'm going to go over here to the
PLC,
and I'm gonna go to and it's updated
my PLC tag table.
There you go. It's in there.
So then I'm gonna grab that guy. I'm
gonna because portal pushes you to use two
monitors.
I'm gonna come here,
go to the main OB,
(32:00):
and then I'm gonna just grab a normally
open contact, drag it on,
drop it, put it in
there we go. And then I'm gonna grab
selector switch
and drop that right there,
and grab green LED
and drop that right there,
and then close that out
(32:22):
and compile.
And everybody's happy. I'm gonna download
and say yes.
Okay. And then I'm gonna go online.
Alright. So it's waiting in for me to
switch that,
(32:43):
and there you go. And if you wanna
see my screen there, Sean,
that's the green light is turned on. Yeah.
Let me switch over to Okay. Bring up
your, alright. And could you switch it back
off now? Yeah. No problem.
Yep. So there we go. We switch it
off. We switch it on. Now I wanna
show you something kinda cool.
If I turn that off
(33:05):
and I come back here and I go
offline
Mhmm. I have a indicator light that needs
to flash to let the operator know that
there's something here I need you to attend
to.
So we used to put in some type
of timer. Right? Mhmm. Mhmm. And so what
we would do here instead of that, I'm
gonna come back down here to my tab
and go to the hardware config.
I'm gonna double click here.
(33:27):
I'm gonna go to module parameters,
and
I'm gonna drop this down, and I'm gonna
put it at two hertz.
Also, just to point out, I can also
do a normally open contact and a normally
closed contact and switch them.
You see right here. Cool.
And I can control
the brightness of the LED if it has
(33:49):
an LED,
and it's all hard coded into it. So
once I've done that, do a quick compile.
I'm I mean, you know, I've always compile
and then do download. Mhmm. Mhmm. So we're
gonna download that
and hit load
and finish.
(34:11):
K. Here we go. Turn that on,
and now it's flashing.
That's great. So you have a timer built
in.
If you need to flash, you don't have
to go get a clock bit or create
your own timer.
Plus, if it's a button, you can change
the contacts from normally open to normally closed.
That is very cool.
Yep. And that is PROFINET push buttons.
(34:33):
As I stated let me quickly pull that
up. Remember, you pointed out just a few
minutes ago, here is the wiring diagram for
that. So here's the back of that with
the terminal blocks.
And you come down here,
and it shows you that you just wire
in that,
variable resistor or a potentiometer.
(34:53):
And you see m and you there's the
10 volts, and then the signal comes into
a.
And then
that guy is right here.
Excellent. So if you come here, you go
to properties
and IO tags,
and it comes in on I 60 fours
and input and IO tags, and then I
(35:15):
could call that a pot. Yeah.
And now you have a potentiometer that you
can use as a a speed reference for
your VFD.
That is very
cool. Engineering efficiency,
we reduced wiring.
We don't have all the IO cards that
is required,
and we have the diagnostics.
(35:37):
Emphasize that each of these here, their names,
you can change those if you would like
because this is your diagnostic string.
So if something goes wrong here, then it
would come up and say commanding. So you
double click here, and we go here to
general, and it'll say commanding and underscore LED
module two, or you can you can call
that
(35:58):
start
conveyor
p b.
And then that would change this. Now see
this changed it. This would be your diagnostic
string to let you know if if that
button got damaged or is not working properly.
You know, I wanted to ask you too.
If I had,
(36:19):
let's say I needed two potentiometers on the
front of the enclosure, could I put another
interface module in the system?
Even if it didn't have any push buttons
on it or pilots on it, could I
just put it in there to grab,
some more IO?
Yep.
Yes, sir. I have a customer that he
uses these as small little IO blocks.
(36:39):
Yeah. I mean, if you just needed a
second pot, it might make sense to buy
another interface module and bring it into that
than buying an analog card. Right? Assuming the
resolution and everything was app you know, correct
for your application, but
that's very cool. I you know, it it
really goes in line with all the videos
we've done recently
looking at e t 200 I o, all
the different flavors and types. And when you
(37:01):
walk through here, you know, I'm just so
especially,
thankful that it reads in all the push
buttons and their positions and pilot lights.
Because if you have this on your desk,
you're doing your first project,
you can save a lot of dragging and
dropping and searching through the hardware catalog just
by reading it in just like we can
read in a rack of, like, e t
200 SPIO.
(37:21):
Yep.
Engineering efficiency, reducing wiring, reducing time in front
of the PC to get things up and
running.
You saw how quickly just a simple push
button and a and, you know, again, a
simple
start and turn that on and off the
races we went.
Well, Mark, I really wanna thank you. Was
there anything else that we wanted to cover
(37:42):
before we close out the show? Nope. That's
just about it. I think, we got a
little bit to have your your viewers,
think about for it. So I appreciate the
time, and I really appreciate you allowing me
to show this. I think this is a
a really engineering efficiency way of going about
using our push buttons and and,
making everybody's projects in a timely manner and
(38:03):
getting everything done and having cost savings with
it.
Well, and I wanna thank you for taking
the time out of your busy day, not
only to put together a little demo like
you have for me to use here in
the school,
but also to come on and show our
audience how to use this. And I wanna
thank our audience. This was actually prompted
from one of you guys out there at
calling in or writing in. I think it
(38:25):
was on YouTube somewhere and saying, hey. Could
you cover the PROFINET push buttons from Siemens?
I didn't even know they had them. So
thanks to the viewers out there for your
feedback that helps guide me on what you
wanna see. And, Mark, this would not be
possible if it wasn't for your expertise.
Thank you for coming back on the show.
I really appreciate it. Thank you, Sean.
All the best. Thank you. I hope you
(38:45):
enjoyed that episode. And I wanna thank Mark
for taking time out of his busy schedule
to put together that demo and presentation for
us and really bring us up to speed
on Sirius X. And I wanna thank the
user out there who put a comment on
one of my previous videos that said, hey.
Did you know
Siemens has this? Because I wouldn't have known
that unless you said that. So thank you
to all you. I try to read the
(39:05):
comments every day or at least every two
days, and so I appreciate you all wherever
you are, whether you're on YouTube, the automation
blog,
Spotify, iTunes,
Google Podcasts, and wherever you're listening to this,
I just wanna thank you for tuning in.
And now with next week being Thanksgiving,
we'll have a pause in the automation show,
then we have some more shows in December,
(39:26):
and we're already filming episodes for next year.
So I'm looking forward to,
releasing all those for you. And if you
didn't know, I also do another podcast called
the History of Automation.
Right now, it's only available on video platforms,
so YouTube, LinkedIn, and the automation blog.
Hopefully, someday we'll also do it on, audio
(39:46):
as well. But, we're meeting with some of
the really legends in automation
who worked on some of the really,
you know, just
really original PLCs, original HMIs,
up and through, like, more modern day systems.
So it's just been a blast having these
folks on to talk about the history of
automation.
And so if you need something to listen
to during Thanksgiving week or maybe during the
(40:09):
holidays, check out the history of automation. Again,
right now, it's only available on YouTube, the
automation blog, and
LinkedIn, but I think you guys will enjoy
that. And I wanna wish you guys, since
I won't be back next week, a very
happy Thanksgiving. I wanna thank you always for
tuning in and listening, and I also wanna
wish you all good health and happiness. And
until next time, my friends,
(40:29):
peace.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.