May 21, 2024 • 15 mins
Whitney Hemsath stopped by the show to share her new book with a delicious title! It's called Types, Shadows, and Casseroles: Finding Christ in Your Daily Life and both the book and our discussion will you inspire to see Him more often and in more places.
Buy Whitney's book:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1963659007
Learn more about Whitney:
http://www.whitneyhemsath.com
Learn more about Jason:
http://www.jasonfwright.com
About the book:
When it comes to finding Christ, it isn’t a matter of knowing where to look; it’s simply a matter of training ourselves to see.
Through the law of Moses, God embedded symbolic reminders of the coming Messiah into every aspect of the lives of the ancient Israelites. Likewise, everything we see and experience in our modern world can be a type and shadow of Christ. Types, Shadows, and Casseroles makes finding those symbols and connections a skill anyone can develop.
With plenty of guided examples, relatable personal stories, and fresh scriptural insights, Hemsath shows readers how to find new meaning and spiritual significance in familiar objects and stories from the scriptures as well as how to transform their daily experiences into opportunities to grow closer to Christ.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, hello, hello.
Welcome to the Book Drop Micbrought to you by Inkvains, your
source for book publicity,promo and press releases.
It's Jason Wright.
How are you so glad that you'rehere?
Have you caught our otherrecent episodes?
You should, because we havecovered some really great titles
.
I actually listened to a coupleof previous episodes this week
(00:23):
as I was preparing for today'sguest, and there's some really
good stuff out there and somegreat titles we've talked about,
so give it a look.
Also, do not forget, please,that Scar Dakota is finally out.
I've only been talking about itfor what feels like most of my
adult life, but yes, Scar Dakotais finally here.
You can get your copies onAmazon, barnes, noble, et cetera
(00:45):
Audio, ebook, all the formats,that's all there.
If you backed it on Kickstarter, check your inbox for an update
on that as well.
All right, now to the reallygood stuff.
I am intrigued by today's guestand tell me that this is not a
fantastic book.
Title Types, shadows andCasseroles Finding Christ in
(01:09):
your Daily Life.
The author is Whitney OwenHemsath and we're so happy to
have her.
Stop by the book drop, mike,hello.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Jason, thanks for letting me come on.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Absolutely All right.
I love the title.
We'll get to that in a minute.
It's such a great title.
I want to hear a little bitabout where this came from.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But first, Miss Whitney, tell us a little bit
about you been supporting myhusband through a master's
program and a PhD and he defendson June 3rd.
So we are very excited to beleaving this era of life and
(01:53):
finally feeling like we'regetting settled down a bit.
So most of my life has been acreative one.
I have a degree inscreenwriting, I taught piano
for a while and I dabble in allsorts of things, but
storytelling has kind of been aconstant in my life.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
When you say that, do you mean that as a little girl,
you were telling stories,imagining?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
making movies, writing novels, that sort of
thing.
Yeah, Somewhere in my parents'house there's a small little
bound booklet of a story of agirl whose porcelain doll comes
to life and kills everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So I was a really cool second grader.
I would love to buy that.
Can we do that?
Can we?
Maybe we get the audio book, or?
Or maybe that's your first film, maybe that is famous.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
We'll auction it off for charity Right.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I love that.
That is.
That is hilarious.
How old were you back then?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I I think second grade somewhere around there,
maybe as old as fourth, eight,nine, ten somewhere there.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's great, that's terrific.
Okay, so you have been creatingyour whole life.
Then Tell me how we arrive atType Shadows and Castrols, and
where does this book title comefrom?
Whose brilliant idea was this?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So, gosh, it was back in November of 2011.
I was teaching a gospeldoctrine class, and if you want
to know anything about me andwho I am as a person, know that
I am one of those people wholoves being assigned to give a
talk, and sacrament meeting Likethat is so exciting for me.
I love teaching the gospel.
(03:23):
I love the magic that happenswhen, like, you ask just the
right question and all of asudden, people in the class are
giving you answers andeveryone's just feeling edified
and you feel connected to Godand each other.
I'm geeking out.
I don't know.
Gospel geek Is that a thing?
Yeah, I think so.
So, anyways, I I'm reallypassionate and I love teaching,
and after one of my lessons, afriend came up to me.
(03:44):
She says I love your lesson.
You should consider writing abook.
I've done screenplays, I'vedone poetry, I've done short
stories, but a full length bookfelt a little ambitious.
Couldn't leave the idea alone,though, so I went home and I
started you know, saying whatwould I write about?
And the spirit was pretty clearsaid you need to write about
finding Christ in all things,and so that title actually was
(04:07):
the very first working title wastype shadows and casseroles,
and the first chapter I wrotewas called in a nine by 13 pan,
and originally it started askind of like a chicken soup for
the soul style thing, where wehad individual chapters that
were standalone stories from mylife and tying them into the
gospel and everything was goinggreat.
(04:28):
Slow but great right.
I was raising kids, teachingpiano, and about 2017 I finally
had the chance to not beteaching piano anymore and
really dedicate to writing.
I said, okay, I'm gonna go, I'mgonna crank it out, I'm gonna
get this book done.
And um, and one day, the spiritvery clearly said no one is
(04:49):
going to buy this book, whichwas really hard to hear, and
sometimes as writers, you know,we get discouraged.
We think, oh, my writing's notgood, but I was really enjoying
my book.
To say, okay, why is the spirittelling me this?
(05:14):
And yeah, I'm not a generalauthority.
I don't have degrees inreligious studies.
I haven't been struck bylightning or attacked by sharks
or any other experience peoplewould consider newsworthy.
I'm just your everyday mom whohappens to love teaching the
gospel to the point of geekingout about it and, as much as it
hurt to admit it from amarketing standpoint, nobody
knew who I was and thereforenobody would care what I wrote.
(05:35):
I didn't feel like God wanted meto stop writing it.
I felt like he wanted me topivot the direction of the book,
but I just didn't know where.
And then, after another Sundayschool class, a woman came up to
me and said she loved theinsights I'd shared and wish she
could do the same thing.
And then she said but my brainjust doesn't work like that.
And that really got to me.
(05:55):
I was like you don't thinkyou're capable of finding gospel
connections in your life.
And I started asking around onsome Facebook groups of LDS
people and the number of adultchurch members who said they
feel the same way astounded me.
And that's when I realizedthat's what God wanted this book
to be.
I wasn't supposed to write abook about how just about my
(06:19):
life and my spiritualconnections that I'd found.
God wanted me to write a bookthat showed people how I made
those connections so that theycould do the same thing with
their own lives.
It needed to be a book for allthe everyday members of the
church to show them how they canfind Christ in the everyday
happenings of their lives.
And who better to write thatbook than an everyday mom like
(06:40):
me, who happens to be reallygood at finding Christ in the
most mundane things.
So there were quite a few bumpsin the road, but 12 years later
the book is finally published12 years later.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I've heard that story many times before.
I love that.
There's a lot to respond tothere.
I had an experience years agowhen I was trying to sort of
decide which book I was going towrite next and I had literally
dozens of ideas in front of meand I was sort of praying for
some sort of guidance and I hadone of the strongest impressions
(07:17):
I'd had as sort of a directanswer to prayer was this I will
not tell you what to write, butI will tell you if what you're
writing is right.
And I took that to mean Ineeded to just start writing.
And if that meant that I wouldget a chapter in and then I
would sort of hit a roadblockand say, okay, that's not it,
then I would start over.
(07:37):
And sometimes it was as simpleas taking a half a page of notes
and immediately knowing, yeah,that's not the thing I'm
supposed to be writing either.
But the idea that I could justlook at some you know paint
palette of ideas and have Godsay that's the one and point
right at one didn't really workthat way.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Isn't it funny how we always want to be commanded in
all things in that regard Like,just tell me what to do and I'll
do it.
God, and it doesn't always workthat way.
The whole book is focused onhow do you find Christ in your
life and once you find him,where are you in relationship to
him?
Because that's the whole pointis not just to think about him,
but think about our relationshipwith him and how do we get
(08:18):
closer to where he is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's terrific.
Tell me about the cover,because it took me a minute.
I had to kind of zoom in to seewhat you had done and of course
the cover will be up on theshow page and of course links to
all of the good things Whitneyis doing in the show notes.
But tell us about this sort ofsilhouette of Christ and where
(08:45):
the idea came from for all ofthese tiny little, mundane, as
you would say, images that makehim up.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So about a year before the book was published,
I'd been trying to think ofideas.
I knew I was going toself-publish at that point and I
was trying to get ideas of whatI wanted to do for the cover
and the.
The spirit I mean I can't takecredit for the spirit was very
much you need if Christ can befound in all things.
(09:16):
You need a picture of Christ inwhich all things are found in
Christ, and, and so that ideawouldn't leave me alone.
And I don't know if you've seenAnthony Sweat's book
Repicturing the Restoration.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yep, I sure have.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Fabulous book.
Love the cover on that one.
And I flipped the cover open tosay, like, who designed this?
And it was Emily Strong.
Emily Strong, rogers, emilyRogers Strong I'm mixing up
those last names, middle names,but she was just fabulous and I
said this is the idea I have.
Can we make it happen?
And it took a few iterationsbut she painstakingly found all
(09:54):
the little icons and helped meposition and help position it.
And so she's, she's the artistbehind it.
She's just fabulous.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah it's, it really is a.
It's a very striking cover andI have a little bit of a cover
snob because I have had of my,of my own books.
I've had some covers that Ithought really really worked
well and I had a couple I wasnot really fond of and I've not.
I've not generally had a greatdeal of control over the final
product.
(10:22):
So I really pay attention tocovers and what they tell me
about a book.
A powerful cover is one where,with no copy at the top, no text
superimposed, nothing at all,you can just look at whatever
central image or scene isdepicted on the cover and get a
sense of what's there.
And there's no doubt when youlook at the cover of Type
Shadows and Castrols, evenwithout reading the title you
(10:45):
know what's inside and that'spretty fantastic.
I hope she's listening, ifshe's not tell her to by golly,
emily very well done, I will.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'll send her a link.
She's awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Very well done, all right.
So 12 years, you said, is thatright?
12 years for book?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
one, yeah, about 12 years in the making, a little
over 12 years.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
For this one.
So what's next?
What are you going to bring theworld next?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh, you know, I would have a much more marketable
career if I had, like, a genrethat I wrote in, but that's just
not my lot in life.
So I have short stories andpoems.
I'm constantly writing those,publishing those.
I have a middle gradeepistolary time travel novel
(11:28):
that's going to be launching,hopefully by the end of this
year.
The publisher is a newpublisher into the subscription
based story market, so moredetails will be coming up on my
website about that.
I've actually got two freee-books I'm working on getting
the final edits for.
One is a adult speculativerom-com.
(11:49):
It's a little novelette andit's going to be free for anyone
who wants to sign up for myfiction newsletter.
And then the other one isactually you know, when God told
me to pivot all those wonderfullittle chapter stories that
I've been writing and feltinspired to write and then had
to cut, those were my darlingsthat I didn't want to cut, but
the spirit was, like you know,you can just make a standalone
(12:09):
thing and let people read that.
So that's going to be a freeebook for anyone who signs up
for the inspirational newsletter.
And then I've got a full lengthadult speculative rom-com that
I'm working on as well right now.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, boy, are you sorry?
I asked, I asked what's comingnext and I get it all.
I love it.
I love that you're busy, youknow, by the way, a wife and a
mom and and balancing a thousanddifferent things.
Before we let you go, tell us alittle bit about your husband's
doctorate and what's next.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Oh, he is.
He's currently teaching at BYUin the Spanish and Portuguese
department and he works withstudent teachers of foreign
language to help them know howbest to teach a foreign language
.
So he goes and observes them inclassrooms and he's a wonderful
academic, fantastic teacher andjust has a passion for language
(13:03):
and learning and the way welearn through language.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Terrific A book in the future for him.
Maybe you think.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I don't know.
I mean, the dissertation is aslong as one, but I don't know
how much writing he's going todo after that.
I think he might have beenburnt out for a while.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Maybe he's going to shock you one day, Whitney, and
he's going to come home and say,look, I've got an idea for a
rom-com and he's just going tochurn that thing out one weekend
.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
He's a man of many talents.
He's like I'm going to crochetand all of a sudden he's
crocheting these amazing things.
I'm going to do balloons, andhe's an incredible balloon
artist.
If you ever see hollow balloonsonline, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's awesome.
Love, that Love.
A talented, creative family,and I bet your boys are
following suit.
Anything else we need to knowabout you.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
No, just that gosh.
I love Christ and I lovehelping anybody feel a little
bit closer to Christ, and thismethod of how to find symbols of
Christ in your life that thebook talks about it's what works
for me.
It's not something that I'msaying is the way everyone has
to do it, but whatever anybody'sprocess is, I think there's
(14:15):
something in this book that willhelp them enhance what they
already have so that they canfind Christ more often and in
more things.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, and don't we all need Christ more often and
in more things?
Amen to that.
Well, you're the best.
Thank you so much.
I'm going to let you get backto whatever world you're going
to change today.
I'm going to try to not thinkabout the porcelain doll for the
rest of my day here inWoodstock, virginia.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Am I going to read a religious book by someone who
was that disturbed?
I write a lot of things, allgenres, but the gospel.
I'm very serious about thegospel.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Good, good, good.
Well, it shows.
Thank you so much for droppingby.
We appreciate you and we willlook forward to having you back
on for your next project.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Thanks so much, see.
Hello, hello, hello.
Welcome to the Book Drop Micbrought to you by Inkvains, your
source for book publicity,promo and press releases.
It's Jason Wright.
How are you so glad that you'rehere?
Have you caught our otherrecent episodes?
You should, because we havecovered some really great titles
.
I actually listened to a coupleof previous episodes this week
(00:23):
as I was preparing for today'sguest, and there's some really
good stuff out there and somegreat titles we've talked about,
so give it a look.
Also, do not forget, please,that Scar Dakota is finally out.
I've only been talking about itfor what feels like most of my
adult life, but yes, Scar Dakotais finally here.
You can get your copies onAmazon, barnes, noble, et cetera
(00:45):
Audio, ebook, all the formats,that's all there.
If you backed it on Kickstarter, check your inbox for an update
on that as well.
All right, now to the reallygood stuff.
I am intrigued by today's guestand tell me that this is not a
fantastic book.
Title Types, shadows andCasseroles Finding Christ in
(01:09):
your Daily Life.
The author is Whitney OwenHemsath and we're so happy to
have her.
Stop by the book drop, mike,hello.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Jason, thanks for letting me come on.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Absolutely All right.
I love the title.
We'll get to that in a minute.
It's such a great title.
I want to hear a little bitabout where this came from.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But first, Miss Whitney, tell us a little bit
about you been supporting myhusband through a master's
program and a PhD and he defendson June 3rd.
So we are very excited to beleaving this era of life and
(01:53):
finally feeling like we'regetting settled down a bit.
So most of my life has been acreative one.
I have a degree inscreenwriting, I taught piano
for a while and I dabble in allsorts of things, but
storytelling has kind of been aconstant in my life.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
When you say that, do you mean that as a little girl,
you were telling stories,imagining?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
making movies, writing novels, that sort of
thing.
Yeah, Somewhere in my parents'house there's a small little
bound booklet of a story of agirl whose porcelain doll comes
to life and kills everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So I was a really cool second grader.
I would love to buy that.
Can we do that?
Can we?
Maybe we get the audio book, or?
Or maybe that's your first film, maybe that is famous.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
We'll auction it off for charity Right.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I love that.
That is.
That is hilarious.
How old were you back then?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I I think second grade somewhere around there,
maybe as old as fourth, eight,nine, ten somewhere there.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's great, that's terrific.
Okay, so you have been creatingyour whole life.
Then Tell me how we arrive atType Shadows and Castrols, and
where does this book title comefrom?
Whose brilliant idea was this?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So, gosh, it was back in November of 2011.
I was teaching a gospeldoctrine class, and if you want
to know anything about me andwho I am as a person, know that
I am one of those people wholoves being assigned to give a
talk, and sacrament meeting Likethat is so exciting for me.
I love teaching the gospel.
(03:23):
I love the magic that happenswhen, like, you ask just the
right question and all of asudden, people in the class are
giving you answers andeveryone's just feeling edified
and you feel connected to Godand each other.
I'm geeking out.
I don't know.
Gospel geek Is that a thing?
Yeah, I think so.
So, anyways, I I'm reallypassionate and I love teaching,
and after one of my lessons, afriend came up to me.
(03:44):
She says I love your lesson.
You should consider writing abook.
I've done screenplays, I'vedone poetry, I've done short
stories, but a full length bookfelt a little ambitious.
Couldn't leave the idea alone,though, so I went home and I
started you know, saying whatwould I write about?
And the spirit was pretty clearsaid you need to write about
finding Christ in all things,and so that title actually was
(04:07):
the very first working title wastype shadows and casseroles,
and the first chapter I wrotewas called in a nine by 13 pan,
and originally it started askind of like a chicken soup for
the soul style thing, where wehad individual chapters that
were standalone stories from mylife and tying them into the
gospel and everything was goinggreat.
(04:28):
Slow but great right.
I was raising kids, teachingpiano, and about 2017 I finally
had the chance to not beteaching piano anymore and
really dedicate to writing.
I said, okay, I'm gonna go, I'mgonna crank it out, I'm gonna
get this book done.
And um, and one day, the spiritvery clearly said no one is
(04:49):
going to buy this book, whichwas really hard to hear, and
sometimes as writers, you know,we get discouraged.
We think, oh, my writing's notgood, but I was really enjoying
my book.
To say, okay, why is the spirittelling me this?
(05:14):
And yeah, I'm not a generalauthority.
I don't have degrees inreligious studies.
I haven't been struck bylightning or attacked by sharks
or any other experience peoplewould consider newsworthy.
I'm just your everyday mom whohappens to love teaching the
gospel to the point of geekingout about it and, as much as it
hurt to admit it from amarketing standpoint, nobody
knew who I was and thereforenobody would care what I wrote.
(05:35):
I didn't feel like God wanted meto stop writing it.
I felt like he wanted me topivot the direction of the book,
but I just didn't know where.
And then, after another Sundayschool class, a woman came up to
me and said she loved theinsights I'd shared and wish she
could do the same thing.
And then she said but my brainjust doesn't work like that.
And that really got to me.
(05:55):
I was like you don't thinkyou're capable of finding gospel
connections in your life.
And I started asking around onsome Facebook groups of LDS
people and the number of adultchurch members who said they
feel the same way astounded me.
And that's when I realizedthat's what God wanted this book
to be.
I wasn't supposed to write abook about how just about my
(06:19):
life and my spiritualconnections that I'd found.
God wanted me to write a bookthat showed people how I made
those connections so that theycould do the same thing with
their own lives.
It needed to be a book for allthe everyday members of the
church to show them how they canfind Christ in the everyday
happenings of their lives.
And who better to write thatbook than an everyday mom like
(06:40):
me, who happens to be reallygood at finding Christ in the
most mundane things.
So there were quite a few bumpsin the road, but 12 years later
the book is finally published12 years later.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I've heard that story many times before.
I love that.
There's a lot to respond tothere.
I had an experience years agowhen I was trying to sort of
decide which book I was going towrite next and I had literally
dozens of ideas in front of meand I was sort of praying for
some sort of guidance and I hadone of the strongest impressions
(07:17):
I'd had as sort of a directanswer to prayer was this I will
not tell you what to write, butI will tell you if what you're
writing is right.
And I took that to mean Ineeded to just start writing.
And if that meant that I wouldget a chapter in and then I
would sort of hit a roadblockand say, okay, that's not it,
then I would start over.
(07:37):
And sometimes it was as simpleas taking a half a page of notes
and immediately knowing, yeah,that's not the thing I'm
supposed to be writing either.
But the idea that I could justlook at some you know paint
palette of ideas and have Godsay that's the one and point
right at one didn't really workthat way.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Isn't it funny how we always want to be commanded in
all things in that regard Like,just tell me what to do and I'll
do it.
God, and it doesn't always workthat way.
The whole book is focused onhow do you find Christ in your
life and once you find him,where are you in relationship to
him?
Because that's the whole pointis not just to think about him,
but think about our relationshipwith him and how do we get
(08:18):
closer to where he is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's terrific.
Tell me about the cover,because it took me a minute.
I had to kind of zoom in to seewhat you had done and of course
the cover will be up on theshow page and of course links to
all of the good things Whitneyis doing in the show notes.
But tell us about this sort ofsilhouette of Christ and where
(08:45):
the idea came from for all ofthese tiny little, mundane, as
you would say, images that makehim up.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So about a year before the book was published,
I'd been trying to think ofideas.
I knew I was going toself-publish at that point and I
was trying to get ideas of whatI wanted to do for the cover
and the.
The spirit I mean I can't takecredit for the spirit was very
much you need if Christ can befound in all things.
(09:16):
You need a picture of Christ inwhich all things are found in
Christ, and, and so that ideawouldn't leave me alone.
And I don't know if you've seenAnthony Sweat's book
Repicturing the Restoration.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yep, I sure have.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Fabulous book.
Love the cover on that one.
And I flipped the cover open tosay, like, who designed this?
And it was Emily Strong.
Emily Strong, rogers, emilyRogers Strong I'm mixing up
those last names, middle names,but she was just fabulous and I
said this is the idea I have.
Can we make it happen?
And it took a few iterationsbut she painstakingly found all
(09:54):
the little icons and helped meposition and help position it.
And so she's, she's the artistbehind it.
She's just fabulous.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah it's, it really is a.
It's a very striking cover andI have a little bit of a cover
snob because I have had of my,of my own books.
I've had some covers that Ithought really really worked
well and I had a couple I wasnot really fond of and I've not.
I've not generally had a greatdeal of control over the final
product.
(10:22):
So I really pay attention tocovers and what they tell me
about a book.
A powerful cover is one where,with no copy at the top, no text
superimposed, nothing at all,you can just look at whatever
central image or scene isdepicted on the cover and get a
sense of what's there.
And there's no doubt when youlook at the cover of Type
Shadows and Castrols, evenwithout reading the title you
(10:45):
know what's inside and that'spretty fantastic.
I hope she's listening, ifshe's not tell her to by golly,
emily very well done, I will.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'll send her a link.
She's awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Very well done, all right.
So 12 years, you said, is thatright?
12 years for book?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
one, yeah, about 12 years in the making, a little
over 12 years.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
For this one.
So what's next?
What are you going to bring theworld next?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh, you know, I would have a much more marketable
career if I had, like, a genrethat I wrote in, but that's just
not my lot in life.
So I have short stories andpoems.
I'm constantly writing those,publishing those.
I have a middle gradeepistolary time travel novel
(11:28):
that's going to be launching,hopefully by the end of this
year.
The publisher is a newpublisher into the subscription
based story market, so moredetails will be coming up on my
website about that.
I've actually got two freee-books I'm working on getting
the final edits for.
One is a adult speculativerom-com.
(11:49):
It's a little novelette andit's going to be free for anyone
who wants to sign up for myfiction newsletter.
And then the other one isactually you know, when God told
me to pivot all those wonderfullittle chapter stories that
I've been writing and feltinspired to write and then had
to cut, those were my darlingsthat I didn't want to cut, but
the spirit was, like you know,you can just make a standalone
(12:09):
thing and let people read that.
So that's going to be a freeebook for anyone who signs up
for the inspirational newsletter.
And then I've got a full lengthadult speculative rom-com that
I'm working on as well right now.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, boy, are you sorry?
I asked, I asked what's comingnext and I get it all.
I love it.
I love that you're busy, youknow, by the way, a wife and a
mom and and balancing a thousanddifferent things.
Before we let you go, tell us alittle bit about your husband's
doctorate and what's next.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Oh, he is.
He's currently teaching at BYUin the Spanish and Portuguese
department and he works withstudent teachers of foreign
language to help them know howbest to teach a foreign language
.
So he goes and observes them inclassrooms and he's a wonderful
academic, fantastic teacher andjust has a passion for language
(13:03):
and learning and the way welearn through language.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Terrific A book in the future for him.
Maybe you think.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I don't know.
I mean, the dissertation is aslong as one, but I don't know
how much writing he's going todo after that.
I think he might have beenburnt out for a while.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Maybe he's going to shock you one day, Whitney, and
he's going to come home and say,look, I've got an idea for a
rom-com and he's just going tochurn that thing out one weekend
.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
He's a man of many talents.
He's like I'm going to crochetand all of a sudden he's
crocheting these amazing things.
I'm going to do balloons, andhe's an incredible balloon
artist.
If you ever see hollow balloonsonline, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's awesome.
Love, that Love.
A talented, creative family,and I bet your boys are
following suit.
Anything else we need to knowabout you.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
No, just that gosh.
I love Christ and I lovehelping anybody feel a little
bit closer to Christ, and thismethod of how to find symbols of
Christ in your life that thebook talks about it's what works
for me.
It's not something that I'msaying is the way everyone has
to do it, but whatever anybody'sprocess is, I think there's
(14:15):
something in this book that willhelp them enhance what they
already have so that they canfind Christ more often and in
more things.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, and don't we all need Christ more often and
in more things?
Amen to that.
Well, you're the best.
Thank you so much.
I'm going to let you get backto whatever world you're going
to change today.
I'm going to try to not thinkabout the porcelain doll for the
rest of my day here inWoodstock, virginia.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Am I going to read a religious book by someone who
was that disturbed?
I write a lot of things, allgenres, but the gospel.
I'm very serious about thegospel.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Good, good, good.
Well, it shows.
Thank you so much for droppingby.
We appreciate you and we willlook forward to having you back
on for your next project.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Thanks so much, see.
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