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July 14, 2021 55 min

With cicadas providing the background sound effects from BeiBei's back yard, the discussion is about the ups and downs of creating a garden, and how John has stewardship over his little plot of land. Shifting gears, there's commentary on the impact of books on kids, as BeiBei shares her thoughts as a mom. Finally, the deeper subject of how difficult it is for humans to discern reality-from produced reality.

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