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June 20, 2025 13 mins
Sean Brace and Sam Oshtry discuss MJ, LeBron, the Men's College World Series, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hey, there you go.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
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You like this one as I still have Youllians banner running.
Sorry about that. Hey, can I join your panel? If so,
I'd like to bring up the topic of Michael Jordan
fans being the worst fans of all time. I'll make

(01:08):
the show good and I've tested this topic on my
page many times.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Michael Jordan fans being the worst fans of all time?
Guarantee was born after Jordan play. Yeah I was too,
but I'm still a Jordan defender.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Mj is going to be involved with the media next
year at Universal Galaxy. You're talking about me, man, that's
number one. And I don't think that I am one
of the worst fans.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I know that there are.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's a polarizing topic for a lot of people out there,
and that's fine, but you know again, you know, people
like to just say dumb things. We're talking about one
of the best players of all time. But even Jordan
is not comfortable saying.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
That he's the greatest player of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
There's plenty of great players have come before him, different genres,
different spots, state of the game, so on and so forth.
So I'll stay with MJ's take on that, regardless of
what is trying to do.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
That's fine, he's caught up in it.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
But for my money, like, it's just so hard to
sit here and say that MJ is the greatest or
Lebron's the greatest, especially with what Lebron has been doing
playing up at this level at age forty plus. It's
just insane. Like these guys are on a different planet
when it comes to just sports in general, regardless of
the greatest of all time. But you know, people will

(02:22):
tell you Bill Russell, people will tell you Wilt, doctor j.
You know, it's like bird Magic, you good on the list.
We know who the greats are. There's no use they
oh this guy was better than that guy. They didn't
play against each other. How are you gonna know? And
I'm a Jordan guy. I love MJ, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
But Lebron is is just insane.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
How could you sit there and tell me, Lebron, Uh,
it cannot be in the conversation for greatest of all time?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Of course he is, Yeah, and it's just it's you.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's hard to compare eras, which why the conversation has
just become so.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Stupid and water down.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And that's where I agree with Lebron and his point
about like players legacy shouldn't be judged by rings to
an extent, just because in the new era of the
NBA it's so hard to sustain success. You're gonna see
great players not accumulate four or five six rings like
the MJ's, Kobe's and the Bronze did in the nineties,

(03:14):
two thousands, and tens. It's with the second apron and
how collective bargaining has gone in the NBA. It is
so hard to sustain success, which is why you haven't
seen a repeat champion since the twenty eighteen Warriors. So, yeah,
Giannis might finish and all this really started, I think
because steven A called Giannis an underachiever. If you only
ends up with one ring, Giannis might end up with
one ring. Jokicic also might end up with one. Yeah,

(03:37):
that doesn't take away from their legacy anymore, because there's
not the days of building supersteams, super teams and sustaining
dynasties is completely over. It's harder to sustain success than
ever before, so it's harder to win rings. It's harder
for superstars to win rings because they don't.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Have as much help.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
So yeah, I don't think it's fair in this new
era of the NBA to actually judge guys. When people's
like jokicch and honest and those guys and Lucas's career
are done, it's not gonna be fair to judge them
based on the rings. I think it is fair for
guys pre twenty twenty, you could say, kind of and
pre Warriors Dynasty, like Lebron Kobe kd of course Jordan

(04:14):
in the nineties who prevented everyone else, every other superstar
pretty much when he was on the court, from getting
a ring. But it's just it's not fair to judge
the new crop of talent based on rings.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, I agree with everything you just said. We're having
some technical difficulties with the stream. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
He's like yeah, Typical MJ fans like stop it, dude,
nobody cares about that conversation. That conversation is way away,
too old and too stale to get into. All right,
let's keep it moving though into other things that do matter.
And College World Series has been really entertaining. I know
that you made the joke, like really like, yeah, you
didn't watch it, but it's been really good. A lot

(04:49):
of good games out there, and of course you get
the fanfare. Uh you know, I'm not gonna put it
on the level of March madness by no means yeah,
something is up completely with our internet in here.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'm not getting anything.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm just trying to pull up the odds because now
we have our College World Series set between LSU and
of course the Shant Declairs, not the Shantaclaies, the Shant
Declares of Coastal Carolina.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
But last night I could give it to you if
it's not working for you.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Is minus one ninety to walk away with the championship
in Coastal Carolina's plus one fifty five. That's crazy And
on the run line for Game one LS was minus
one and a half. Look, we're talking about two different programs,
right like Coastal Carolinas.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
That's got to be rare for them to make an
appearance here. They want it a couple of years ago. Yeah,
they want it a couple of years ago. They haven't
lost in like a month and a half.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Seriously, I guess it's probably easy to recruit down there,
Like it's a cool place to go. Apparently they have
a very fun bar scene. It's like it's probably easy
to recruit baseball players out there.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
No, I would just say that, you know, from the
college baseball. I love the Regionals, I love the Super Regionals.
The World Series is it's tough, tough spot, but the
games are entertaining. So I tuned in last night watching
this game and this team. The winner of this will
go to the championship, and it's between LSU and Arkansas,
and Arkansas takes.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
The lead in the top of the night to go
up by two, five to three. If I'm not mistaken,
the score was right.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
So LSU comes up and LSU gets a couple of
runners on base, and all of a sudden, next thing,
you know, it's runners on first and second, and I
think there was one out I believe. Shortstop gets a
pretty hard hit ball from Arkansas right to him and
he throws at the third for the automatic out. Two outs,

(06:38):
but he had a double play. It was a double
play ball. It was just smashed right to him. He
would have turned too if they did it and didn't
make a throwing error. Bottom line, as they were up
by two, it doesn't matter. You got to try for
two there. It was just tailor made. So that was
a bra brainfart number one, and it was accumulation of
everything that ended up costing him. But man, it was

(06:58):
just such a puke fest, and it was really hard
to watch because it was just like, dude, like my
and again I'm going on a much different level and
not on television and not playing in a college World Series.
But man, when I played ball like I wanted the
ball hit to me, like hit it to me. I'm
in the outfield. I could track those balls down. I'm
in I loved it, and clearly in that moment the left.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Fielder wanted no part of it. And it was a
hard hit ball. Two outs.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I think runners are on second and third and or
first and second was yeah, and the ball smashed right
out of me, steps back, then dives and the ball
hits him at his right shoulder, bounces to the wall,
tie game five five, LSU ties it up and then
they come up and then I believe the next step
bat and hit a little bit of a pop fly

(07:47):
to center field that falls in and they end up
losing the game. Kid was crying and he's a hell
of a bat too. It's a hell of a player.
Because Luke was telling us on his chat how good
he was and he had a great run this year sophomore.
I believe I could only imagine what his dms look like.
I can only imagine that he's probably thinking to himself,
he's got a transfer.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
That sucks.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
But dude, here it's the College World Series on the line,
and you can't catch a.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Fly ball that's right at you doose the third.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Just kids apply anymore because of nil And these guys
are getting paid, not to the extent that basketball football
players are. But yeah, I don't know if you can
just say they're just kids. If they're getting paid.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's that's very true. And another great segue by Sam Austrie.
How about this headline, MISSOO spent thirty one point seven million.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Dollars on NIL for athletes in the last year. We
finally got some records out there.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
The University of Missouri athletics department has spent more than
thirty one million on name, image, and likeness compensation for
athletes during the past year, according to financial records they
went in and the records show that nearly two thirds
of the money and twenty twenty four went to football
players and about a fourth to men's basketball. The remainder
was split between baseball, women's basketball, and lower profile programs.
Thirty one million dollars and it went into like the

(08:58):
month of when these what the number was given. And
we understand how it works as far as you know
to a point, like I would imagine contracts are different
for these kids, whatever it is. But thirty one point
seven does that number shock you? Do you think that's low?
Do you think it's high? I've been waiting to like
we see and we know because there's rumors that as

(09:19):
Bailey was making thirteen million dollars last year playing at Rutgers,
but no one can really like lock that in on paper.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
We haven't seen those numbers.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
So this is the first time that we actually had
a look at real deal numbers, factual evidence here thirty
one point seven last year, Missouri.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
What do you say to.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
That players like guys like Ace Bailey, and what they
make is different than what the school can actually give them,
because school can give you two million dollars, but if
you have a good NIL agent, he'll also get you
marketing deals, and that you'll get a lot more money
from marketing NIL deals. But that's not necessarily what the
school collective is give you. It gives you that those
numbers presumably are just based off what the Missouri's collective

(09:56):
was actually specifically paying the So from that perspective, I
look at it and say, yeah, that's probably around average
normal for an SEC team when we think about how
much you have to pay football guys, which is over
ten million, and how much you have to pay basketball guys,
and not like Missouri is spending a ton on basketball nil.
But then even the lower the non revenue sports like

(10:17):
baseball and the women's basketball and volleyball is a big
NIL sport now, and softball and sports like that, all
that stuff contributes to So I say, thirty one point
seven is around what I would expect, not too high
and not too low necessarily, but it's interesting how they
actually got that number. If it was the collective, it's
not the school giving them to giving them the money directly.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's the collectives, yes, which.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Aren't they're associated with the school, but they're not directly
involved with the school. So it's kind of interesting how
that works and how they actually get those figures.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, the collectives every true Tiger, that's what they're collectives
school exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, very interesting day and age we are in right
now in college athletics, and we were talking about the NBA.
I don't I don't have a positive, rosy feeling about
college sports in the future.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
And I've been telling you that and I'll always watch
like I love college football, get excited for coty are we.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Are going to have a drastic change over the next
few years. It's just it's it's it's gonna blow up.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
I think there just needs to be some regulations, like
I want, I want continuity in the sport. And that's
the biggest thing to me. It's not the NIL, it's
continuity in the sport. If you sign an NIL contract,
it should be for two years.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
But then there's go there's always like even if they
come up with said, you know, nil contract, there's always
gonna be pushed back.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I know the women are putting out there with title nine.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Uh, you know, with the latest conversation, the latest stuff
that was put out there from from from the government.
If I'm not mistaken like it's it's not an easy,
easy situation to solve.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
And I just don't see that happening, uh the right way.
Let's put it that way over the next few years.
And I just think this is gonna blow up bad
in our face.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
But we'll see what happens. Of course, college football isn't
going anywhere. We're gonna tune in and uh, we'll see
in college troops as well. All right, daily, make it
rolling on. Sam Austrey will be back. He's got to
hop off for just a second boat. Hopefully we get
him on before we get out of here at five o'clock.
Other side, I got a lot to get to though,
I promise you this, We're gonna mix it in some
NBA finals conversation. We did have an interesting retirement in

(12:13):
the NFL. I want to complain about kids on motorized bikes.
I saw an eight year old, two eight year olds
to ten year olds on motorized bikes driving around my neighbor.
Come on, parents, you buying your kids out there motorized bikes.
Come on, it's got pedals. Pushit.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
We used to ride bikes all day long and nighttime.
I'm talking about miles with our legs.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
These kids were cruising right down the street motorized bike.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
What type of parent are you buying that for your kid?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Got some other stuff that we can get into as
far as odds and and we'll be checking off a
really cool bucket list item when it comes to the
sports world at the end of July.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I can't wait, and I'll tell you what exactly that is.
On the other side, it's more daily ticket after this
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