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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to
another episode of the Tao of
Humaning, where we explore thephysical, energetic, emotional,
and spiritual aspects of what itmeans to be human together.
I'm your host, Dr.
Christine, and I'm so happyyou've decided to join me for
today's conversation.
In today's episode, I want totalk to you a little bit about
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timing and when is the best timeto come and see a practitioner
of Chinese medicine like myself.
A lot of times people will comeinto the clinic and see me when
they've already have anestablished diagnosis.
A lot of times people will comein for pain is oftentimes an
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initial gateway for peoplecoming into an acupuncturist and
Chinese medicine practice.
Women's health is another one.
So cycle regulation, hormonalbalancing, things like fibroids,
PCOS, perimenopause, andmenopause, anything having to do
with trying to conceive or beingpregnant or postpartum, all are
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fantastic times to come and seesomeone.
And what I was thinking about inconversation with a patient the
other day was this idea ofprevention as a way of caring
for the body.
And I know it seems like such asimple, of course, concept.
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And really, I think traditionalChinese medicine has the most
beautiful lens of looking at thebody and care.
And so at its very foundationalroot, traditional Chinese
medicine is a preventativemedicine.
It really is utilized best whenpeople come in before things
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have really establishedthemselves to a point where
there's a diagnosis in the body.
And that's a tricky thing to getacross in a short conversation
with someone because a lot oftimes I'm meeting people that
are already in pain or alreadyhave something going on in their
body that they want supportwith, right?
And then they come in and we cando a series of care, address
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what it whatever it is that theyneed support in.
And then we're starting to havethat conversation of, okay, this
shoulder pain is resolved, andyou know, we've been working on
your digestion and your sleep,right?
And then if we continue care foranother month at a weekly basis,
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you know, then we can get you toa place where you're coming in
maybe once a season for like atune-up and to make sure
everything's continuing to holdthat pattern of being able to
have the body operating on itsown in the way that is most
optimal.
Right.
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So a lot of times we start careafter things have already been
established as a pattern in thebody.
It's not bad.
Acupuncture and traditionalChinese medicine can certainly
help with those things.
And really starting to useChinese medicine as a
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preventative tool can reallyhelp to ensure that the body is
going to be as balanced aspossible.
And it can correct for things,you know, like we talked about
in an earlier episode, you know,can correct for things when
there's still a whisper.
And, you know, when you have alittle bit of shoulder tension,
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right?
Before it becomes like a a fullystrained neck, for instance, or
shoulder.
Or, you know, when your cyclestarts to go out of balance, or,
you know, when your sleep isreally, you start noticing that
you're waking up in the middleof the night and it's always at
two o'clock, right?
Like that's significant for apractitioner of Chinese
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medicine.
And we can help, we can step inat that point, right, and
restore restfulness and restorefull flow through the meridians
of the entire body so thatthere's not stagnation and pain.
And yeah, I think there'sseveral reasons why people don't
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think of this.
One, I think, is that it's nottalked about as often.
It's also really common to, youknow, when you're putting
yourself out in the world as anacupuncturist or doctor of
Chinese medicine, you're wantingpeople to think of you for a
certain thing, right?
So prevention obviously is notgoing to be super marketable in
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the sense of coming top of mindfor people.
But I think it's becoming moreso.
I think what I what started mewanting to do this episode was
some conversations that I'vebeen having around, you know, a
lot of people are looking forfunctional medicine or
integrative medicine.
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And those are two things thatpeople will search out, you
know, asking friends and family,like, hey, do you have a good
functional medicinepractitioner?
And then I'll say, Well, what doyou mean by a functional
medicine practitioner?
And they're like, I don't know.
Sometimes they're like, I'm notsure.
I want them to do, you know,some different kinds of tests.
And I want them to, at the endof the day, what I think they're
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saying is, I want that someoneto look more deeply at what's
going on in my body.
I want someone to listen to thesymptoms that I'm experiencing
in my day-to-day, which isChinese medicine perfectly, um,
because we do want to addresssleep every session, digestion.
We're looking at energy andmood.
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All of those things are veryfront and center for a Chinese
medicine practitioner.
But I think when people arelooking for integrative or
functional practitioners, whatthey really want are those key
things of like someone to lookdeeper, someone to listen, and
someone to make sense of what'sgoing on in their body, and then
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for someone to give them a plan.
And to me, we'll talk about thisin another episode in more
depth, but to me, this is likeChinese medicine bundled up into
one thing, into one description,right?
Like that's what we do everyvisit.
Um and yeah, I think some of itis that educational piece.
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I think some of it is financial.
I think it's hard for people tothink about prevent preventative
care when things are goingreally well in their body,
right?
When they feel really good,you're less likely to think,
like, oh, it would be a greatidea to go help maintain this
goodness, right?
And I was thinking about today'sconversation, and you know, it
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really is caring for our body iseasier to maintain a healthy
state in someone's body than itis to correct something that is
um out of balance.
And what that looks like longterm is actually less money
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spent because you're correctingthings at an earlier stage,
right?
And usually treatments are goingto be less intense.
There's just so much goodness totaking care of our bodies on a
regularly maintenance kind of away.
Um, I was thinking about cars,and I was thinking about how,
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you know, it's common knowledgethat our cars need oil changes
every, you know, three-ishmonths.
So kind of once a season, right?
Depending on your driving, ofcourse, but about once a season,
we know we're gonna have tobring our car in, we're gonna
have to get it tuned up,essentially, right?
Our bodies are the same.
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If we want our bodies to befunctioning, functionaling,
functioning optimally, we don'twant to wait until it's running
on empty and really in a lot ofpain and discomfort before we
start to course correct, right?
And some of it is education.
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I want to talk more about howthese things are possible and
specific examples and things foryou guys to understand and see.
Um, but I think today I wantedto set this, you know, kind of a
bird's eye view and having thisconversation of there is a
different way.
Like we don't have to wait untilthings are super wrong in order
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to get care.
And I was thinking about apatient the other day who, for
example, was expressing theirfrustration with their insurance
provider and being able to getthe care that they and their
doctor had determined was thebest care for for this person.
They were looking to get on aGLP one, and you know, kind of
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that ideally, you know, doingall the right things already,
eating well, moving, healthyhabits in this person, and their
weight was still not lowering.
And they had a lot of, you know,risk factors and things with
their doctor, and they werelike, okay, let's get you on a
GLP one.
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Okay, great.
Submitted to submitted it to theinsurance company, and they were
like, actually, we need you todo six months of this
nutritional program that you cando through your insurance.
We need you to do that firstbefore we'll approve this.
Okay, that's a reasonablerequest, right?
And a cool service to offer forfree.
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So they went and did that.
They did six months of thisnutrition program diligently and
had similar results as what theywere experiencing before, like
felt good, and you know, theirhabits were not the problem to
begin with.
So they weren't seeing as muchprogress as they had determined
was needed.
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And so they went back to theinsurance and said, okay, it's
been six months.
Now it's, you know, time.
Let's get this person thesupport with the medication.
And the insurance company wasfinally like, okay, we'll do it.
And so they got on it, they feltgreat for two months, and then
this was the end of a calendaryear, and so the insurance was
resetting at the beginning ofthe next year.
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And what happened was theychanged the BMI requirements for
the GLP one coverage on theirinsurance.
And so it kicked them out ofthat coverage range.
And so now, even thoughtechnically on paper they were
obese and they had risk factorsand you know, all of these
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reasons why a period of time ona GLP one would have been really
supportive for them, theyweren't able to actually get
that care anymore.
And they were just, you know,coming in and sharing the
frustration of like, oh, like Idid, you know, it took eight
months of back and forth to beable to get on this thing.
And then I finally got on it andI was feeling great.
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And then ultimately they feltthat they were being told that
they had to be more sick inorder to get this care that
would actually prevent themfrom, you know, long term
reducing it really would havereduced all cause all cause
mortality, right?
Reducing heart disease risk,reducing diabetes risk, reducing
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da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Right.
Long term, this would have beenless expensive for this patient
to be able to get this kind ofpreventative care, right?
To move them out of the obesityrange and into what's considered
a healthy weight for them.
And, you know, that's somethingwhere I feel like our culture in
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general, like we tend to waituntil something is really, it
has to be, we we're trained thatlike something has to be really
wrong.
We have to have a concretediagnosis of something before we
can move forward and get care.
And that's not always the case,but I do see that often enough
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that it has flagged something inme that I was like, I'm just
like, wait, this is not how Iwas trained, right?
And there, this system ofmedicine is really one that
listens early on in yoursymptoms, and it really looks at
how you feel every day and howyour body is functioning every
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single day.
And it, of course, we look atlabs and we use that as a guide,
right?
We might have slightly differentideas of what's an optimal range
than another provider.
And at the end of the day, we'regonna keep going back to how are
you feeling?
Like, how do you wake up in themorning?
Do you feel energized?
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Do you feel a little slower tostart?
Are you like can't count downthe seconds or can't wait until
you get the coffee right intoyou?
Those are all useful data pointsfor us in terms of caring for
you and being able to get you toa place where you fall asleep
easily.
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You stay asleep throughout thenight, you wake up feeling
relatively rested.
All of these things for the momslistening are relative to the
age and sleep of your children.
And, you know, even within that,we want the rest that a young
mom of young children, where thesleep is still a bit disturbed,
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we want that sleep that you aregetting to be able to be as
restful as possible, asnourishing as possible, right?
And really looking at everythingwithin the context of your
particular life.
So sleep is a big one.
And then, you know, how you fallasleep, stay asleep, how you
wake up, what times do you wakeup in the middle of the night?
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Are you using the restroom inthe middle of the night?
All of those questions meansomething different to us and
create a pattern.
Same with your digestive system.
Like, I'll ask people, how isyour digestion?
And they'll say, What do youmean?
They'll say, Well, everything,right?
Like, are you how's yourappetite?
Like, do you get hungry?
Do you crave anything inparticular?
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Are you do you have a desire toeat?
Because sometimes people willfeel hungry, but there's no
desire to eat, right?
Um, do you have gas bloating?
How are your bowel movements?
We talk about poop a lot in myclinic.
Or with your acupuncturist,you'll know we talk about poop a
lot.
We talk about periods a lot.
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And a woman's psycho health.
Oh, we'll get into this more andmore, but a woman's cycle tells
us so much about her overallphysiology.
And in fact, I could ask a womanabout her cycle, and I could
probably predict with prettygood accuracy what her sleep and
her digestion are like and whather moods are like, only by
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asking her about her period.
And, you know, these are Ialways tell people, like, your
life is like Thursday afternooncar line, right?
Like how we feel emotionally,physically, mentally, how we
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feel on a middle of the week,middle of the afternoon day,
like that's our life, right?
And I see so many people feelingfrustrated because they are
getting their annual labs doneand they're being told that
everything is in the normalrange, and you know, their
fatigue and joint pain and backpain and all of these things
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that they're experiencing arejust normal parts of aging.
And I I would argue that thatdoes not have to be the case.
And so I think for today'sepisode, I really just wanted to
stress that how you feel everysingle day matters.
Of course, it's normal to haveebbs and flows throughout life
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and changes.
And overall, there are supportsfor you to help you sleep better
and to help you feel lessaffected by stress, to help you
feel less anxious, to help youfeel more resourced, to help you
feel happy, grounded, and justall the things, right?
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Like there are resources beforethings become a diagnosis or
before things become reallycumbersome and heavy, you can
get support to feel betterbefore then.
And so if you know someone whohas been struggling, or if you
yourself have been strugglingwith any of these kind of
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day-to-day things, finding aChinese medicine practitioner is
so valuable.
And if you are around, if you'relistening in and you're around
Orange County, California, ofcourse, I would love to be the
one to support you.
I also do offer telehealth, andall of the things are located in
the show notes.
You'll be able to find me if youwant to send me a message.
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I would love to hear from you.
And I hear, I get I see so manyof you are listening in, and I
am so grateful and appreciative,and it really, really helps my
work get out to new people.
If you hit subscribe and like orleave a comment, any of those
things really do help themagical algorithm to send my
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work to new people.
So I really appreciate that too.
And look forward to seeing youin the next episode.