May 18, 2026 • 30 mins
#139 Most subs think they've experienced subspace. They haven't – not really.
In this episode, we're breaking down all 5 stages of subspace and how to get there faster – including the one stage nobody warns you about that can quietly damage your dynamic if you're not handling it right.
If you're a a Dom who wants to guide your partner there or a sub who wants to go deeper, this one's for you.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Most people think they or their partner have been
in subspace.
I'd argue most of them have onlyever made it to stage two.
Today I'm gonna share the fivestages of Subspace and how to
get there faster.
Welcome to the Dom Sub LivingPodcast.
Hey, it's Alessandra, andtoday's episode is one I've been
(00:20):
thinking about making for a longtime.
Subspace is one of those topicsthat comes up constantly in this
community.
People DM me about it, theyleave comments about it, it
comes up in conversations withpeople I meet at events, but
it's one of the mostmisunderstood experiences in
BDSM.
(00:40):
Most of what you find out thereon the topic is either too vague
to be useful or it's so clinicaland dry that it doesn't actually
help you understand what to dowith the information.
Neither of those is going tohelp you get there.
So I built a framework.
Five stages, each one distinct,each one with its own signs, its
(01:02):
own feel, and its own strategiesfor getting there.
By the time we are done today,you are going to understand
subspace better than most peoplein this lifestyle.
Whether you are a sub who wantsto go deeper or a DOM who wants
to actually guide your partnerthere, this episode is for you.
But what is subspace really?
(01:24):
Because before I walk youthrough the five stages, I want
to make sure we are all startingfrom the same place because
there is a lot of misinformationfloating around about what
subspace actually is.
And some of it is not onlyinaccurate, it's genuinely
setting people up for confusionand for disappointment in their
(01:47):
dynamics.
The most common explanation youwill hear goes something like
this.
So, subspace is when you feelfloaty and blissed out during a
scene.
And look, that's not wrong, butit's like describing running a
marathon as the part when youcross the finish line.
You are skipping literallyeverything that happened to get
(02:10):
there.
So let me give you the realexplanation.
Subspace is a neurochemicalstate.
When you are in a BDSM scene,especially one involving
physical intensity andpsychological death or high
levels of trust, your bodyreleases a cocktail of
(02:31):
chemicals.
We are talking endorphins,adrenaline, oxytocin, and
dopamine.
It's actually kind of like therunner's high that a lot of the
serious athletes talk about.
Your brain starts filtering outeverything that isn't the
present moment.
And the prefrontal cortex, thatpart of your brain that's
(02:52):
responsible for rational thoughtand self-monitoring and
judgment, all of that starts toquiet down.
And what's left is puresensation and presence and
connection.
And here is what I findgenuinely fascinating about the
physiology of all this.
Your nervous system does notknow the difference between I am
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in real danger and my DOM ispushing my limits in a
consensual negotiated scene.
The physiological response isreally similar.
Your body enters a kind ofhyperfocus, altered state either
way.
The difference, the entiredifference, is the psychological
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container of trust and consentthat surrounds it.
Now, does that mean thatsubspace is automatic?
Does it mean that if you just doenough intense stuff in a scene,
it will happen?
No, absolutely not.
And that is the part thatfrustrates so many people.
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Cause have you ever been in ascene where you just could not
drop in?
Like everything was technicallyhappening.
The physical sensations werethere, your partner was doing
all the right things, but yourhead was just somewhere else
entirely.
You were in your body, but notfully present.
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You were going through themotions, but you couldn't turn
off the noise.
That is not a personal failure,that is a stage one problem.
And I'm going to explain exactlywhat I mean by that in just a
moment.
So let's start with stage one.
So stage one is what I call thesubmissive mindset.
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And I want to be really clearabout something before I go into
it.
But this stage does not startwhen the scene starts.
It starts before, sometimes wellbefore.
This is the stage where you feelsubmissive.
You are still fully aware.
You are thinking clearly, youare in control of yourself,
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you're making choices, butsomething in you has already
oriented you towards your DOM.
There is a willingness, anopenness, a kind of readiness
that wasn't there an hour ago.
Think of it as your internalcompass swinging to point in one
direction.
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But here is where most peopleget this wrong.
They treat subspace like a lightswitch.
They think it starts the momentthe scene starts, and then they
wonder why their head is stillfull of noise 15 minutes in.
When I struggled with this inthe past, I may be mentally
still thinking about my to-dolist.
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So the reason you just can'tseem to get there is because
stage one never happened, or ithappened in 30 seconds while the
DOM was still setting up thescene, which is not enough time
for your nervous system toactually make the transition.
Think about it this way.
I'm going to use the raceanalogy again, but if you were
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training for a race, and I'mactually training for a 5K right
now, so this is very top of mindfor me, but you would not sit in
your car until the starting hornwent off and then just get out
and sprint.
Your body would not be ready.
You would pull something, butinstead you warm up, you give
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your body and your mind time toshift into the mode that is
needed.
Subspace requires a warm-up too.
And that warm up is stage one.
So how do you actually get tostage one?
How do you create thatsubmissive mindset before a
scene?
And for DOMS, how do you helpyour sub do that?
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Well, the answer is rituals.
Rituals are the shortcut tostage one, and I cannot
overstate how powerful they are.
A ritual is anything thatconsistently signals to your
brain like we are entering adifferent mode now.
It could be a specific piece ofmusic that only gets played
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before scenes.
It could be a phrase your Domsays and it's just said the same
way every time.
For us, the ritual is I put myhair back, I will change into
whatever clothes or lack ofclothes my Dom wants me to be
in.
I will kneel before him and hewill put my play collar on.
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Your brain is a patternrecognition machine.
It learns to associate thosecues with the submissive state.
And over time, sometimessurprisingly quickly, you can
drop into stage one almost oncommand.
The ritual does the neurologicalwork for you.
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It's kind of like the Pavlov'sdog scenario where he would ring
a bell before he fed his dog andthe dog would start salivating
anytime the bell would be rung,even if it wasn't giving any
food.
It's the same exact thing.
So here's my question for you,and I genuinely want you to
think about this.
So, what does your pre-seenritual look like right now?
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And if the honest answer is Idon't really have one, or we
just kind of start, that mightbe exactly why you're not
dropping as deep as you need to.
Now, stage two is the drop-in.
And this is the first realshift, the first thing that
feels noticeably different fromyour everyday state.
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You feel it as a quieting, themental chatter starts to slow
down, you stop thinking incomplete sentences, and your
awareness narrows.
It's not that the rest of theworld has disappeared yet.
It's more like it's just gettingfurther away, less urgent, like
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you've turned down the volume oneverything that isn't in this
room, that isn't this person orthis moment.
Physically, you might noticeyour breathing changes.
It can deepen, it can slow, yourshoulders kind of drop.
There is a softening in yourbody that is genuinely hard to
describe, but very easy torecognize once you know what
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you're looking for.
For me, it feels like a fullbody exhale where I just let go
of all of the tension I washolding that I didn't even know
was there.
For DOMs listening right now,this is the stage where your sub
starts to become specificallyresponsive to you.
This is the moment when theconnection tightens.
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Your voice carries more weighthere than it did 60 seconds ago.
Your touch lands differently.
The scene is no longer just aseries of activities where you
do this and then you do that.
It becomes an exchange, a powerexchange.
So use that deliberately.
This is not the time to escalateintensity.
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This is the time to anchor.
I want to share somethingpersonal here because I think it
illustrates the stage betterthan any technical description
could.
But I remember a scene from afew months ago when I was
completely convinced I was notgoing to be able to drop.
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I was stressed out about one ofour kids.
I had a lot going on.
My head was really loud andbusy, and I had basically
accepted that this scene wasjust going to be physically
enjoyable, but mentally I wasgoing to kind of just stay on
the surface, so to speak.
And my Dom, he did something Iwasn't expecting.
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He slowed everything down.
He was using the writing crop onme in that moment, but he just
reduced the intensity and thespeed instead of increasing it.
He dropped his voice to likejust a whisper, and he put his
other hand on the back of myhead, and he just stayed there
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and told me to breathe.
And within a few minutes, I feltit.
That first real quiet, thatfirst sense of the outside world
getting further away.
That drop-in doesn't alwaysrequire intensity to get there.
Sometimes it requires the exactopposite, like it did for me.
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So, how do you get to stage twofaster?
Well, intentional breath pacingis one of the most underused
tools in DS Dynamics, and itworks so good here.
So the DOM guides their sub tobreathe with their voice, like
breathe with me, breathe in,breathe out.
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That kind of pacing synchronizesyour nervous system.
It tells your body that there isa leader in the room and that
the leader has things handled.
They're literally controllingyour breath.
Your nervous system responds tothat signal by beginning to
relax its vigilance.
Sensory focus is the other majorway to do this.
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So some subs drop into stage twofastest when they are asked to
hold direct eye contact withtheir DOM.
There's that connection of beingtruly seen while being truly
present.
And it's incredibly grounding.
Other subs drop faster when thatvisual input is removed.
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So a blindfold takes away theoption of being distracted by
the room and your remainingsenses just kind of intensify.
Know which way your sub respondsto.
If you don't know yet, that isinformation worth finding out.
And here's something I want youto hold on to because I'm going
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to come back to it when we reachstage four.
But the subs who drop deepestare almost never the ones who
are trying the hardest.
There is a reason for that, aneurological reason.
And it has everything to do withwhat happens in your body when
you stop chasing the feeling andstart trusting the process
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instead.
I'll explain it fully when weget there, but let's move on to
stage three.
This is the lock-in.
This is where things getgenuinely interesting.
And this is the stage that Ithink is most underrepresented
in conversations about subspace.
So the drop-in is about quietingand letting go.
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Lock-in is about focus.
Your awareness has narrowed to avery specific point, usually the
DOM or the sensation or themoment.
And everything outside of thatbasically has ceased to exist.
This is your brain enteringsomething very close to a flow
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state.
So again, athletes know thisexperience, musicians know it,
surgeons even know it.
It's the experience of being socompletely absorbed in what you
are doing that time stopsfeeling linear.
You are not thinking about whatcomes next in the scene.
You are not replaying what justhappened.
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You are entirely, completelyright here.
For subs, stage three oftenfeels like tunnel vision in the
best possible sense.
Your Dom's voice is louder thaneverything else in existence.
Physical sensation is heightenedand more precise.
Instructions arrive in yourbrain almost before they finish
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being spoken because yourattention is entirely attuned to
that one source.
For DOMs, and this is important,so I want to say it clearly,
stage three is where yourconsistency becomes the most
critical thing in the scene.
Your sub is locked into you now,and any significant break in the
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dynamic can pull them out ofthis state completely.
So maybe you get physicallydistracted, like you can't find
a specific toy, or you fumblewith something, or you just
handle something awkwardly, thatthat can all throw off your
submissive.
I have a story about this thatis a little painful to tell, but
I think it's genuinely useful.
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I have been in scenes where Ihit stage three.
I was deep in it, fully lockedin, and I saw my Dom pause to
check his Apple Watch.
Like not for long, maybe justthree seconds, but I felt the
pull out of lock-in happenalmost immediately.
I mean, I wasn't angry about it.
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We have kids, so we have tocheck our notifications.
And it wasn't a big dramaticinterruption.
It just meant the thing mynervous system was anchored to
had suddenly divided itsattention, and the focal point
just kind of split.
And my brain, which had beenrunning so beautifully on the
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single track of this person,this moment, it suddenly had to
recalibrate.
It is a lesson I think about alot when I talk to DOMs that I
mentor about presence.
Being physically in the room isnot the same as being fully
present.
Your sub will feel thedifference, even at stages where
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they cannot articulate it.
Like the thing with my Dom'swatch.
I didn't really put two and twotogether about how it affected
me until after the scene when wewere debriefing it and I got to
tell them.
So, how do you get to stagethree faster or more accurately,
how do you deepen it?
Well, it's repetition andrhythm.
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This is where these elementsbecome incredibly powerful
tools.
And it's not a coincidence thatimpact play and breath work and
repetitive praises and repeatedcommands, all of these tend to
produce deeper states.
Again, your brain is a patternrecognition machine, and when
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you introduce rhythm into ascene, you are giving the
nervous system a track to runon.
It finds the groove and it goesdeeper into it.
The rhythm becomes a kind oftrance induction.
Have you ever noticed that thescenes with the most consistent
rhythm a lot of times tend to bethe ones that produce the
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deepest subspace?
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But that's not random.
That is neuroscience.
Now let's move into stage four,deep subspace.
This is what most people meanwhen they say subspace.
This is the state people arechasing, and it's extraordinary.
It's floaty, it's heavy, it'seuphoric.
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The physical body might feeldistant, like it belongs to
someone else, or like you'reobserving it from you know
outside of it.
Thinking in complete sentencesis usually difficult.
Time is distorted in a way thatis hard to explain until you've
experienced it.
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But 10 minutes can feel like anhour, or a whole hour can
disappear in what feels like ahandful of minutes.
The neurochemical response isfully active here.
Endorphins are flooding yoursystem.
Adrenaline has done its job andit's leveled out.
Oxytocin is doing profoundthings for the emotional bond in
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the room.
That's the bonding chemical.
And it is working overtime instage four.
For me, I would describe thisstage as a meditative state.
It's just a complete, totalrelease of ego and
self-consciousness.
Other subs describe it asfeeling held by something larger
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than just the scene.
There's usually a quality ofpeace in it that they struggle
to find anywhere else in theirlives.
It's a spiritual experience.
This stage is profound and itrequires profound responsibility
from the Dom.
Because here is what is alsotrue about stage four that does
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not get said enough.
Your sub cannot fully advocatefor themselves right now.
Their verbal communication maybe really small or delayed or
completely absent.
Their ability to process painsignals the way they normally
would is really compromised.
Those same endorphins thatcreate the bliss are also acting
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as pain relievers, raising theirpain threshold.
This is why relying on a safeword as your only safety
mechanism at this depth isgenuinely risky.
Your sub may not be able toaccess it clearly.
So you, as the Dom, need to beconstantly checking in with your
sub and assessing their bodylanguage.
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Now, I told you earlier that Iwould explain why the subs who
drop deepest are not the onestrying hardest.
Here is why.
The gateway to stage four issurrender.
And surrender cannot be forced,and surrender can't be an act
either.
It can only be allowed.
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Here's why this mattersphysiologically.
The act of trying to get intosubspace, like constantly
striving for it, monitoringwhether you are there yet,
measuring how deep you aregoing, all that activates the
prefrontal cortex.
That's the analyticalself-monitoring part of your
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brain.
And stage four requires thatpart of the brain to go quiet.
You cannot think your way intodeep subspace.
The trying is the obstacle here.
So the path to deep subspace istrust.
Specifically, trust that yourDOM has you.
Trust that you don't need tomanage the scene.
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It's trust that you can let gocompletely and that container
will hold.
That trust is built outside ofscenes.
It's built through consistencyand through communication and
through repair when things gowrong, through being seen and
known over time.
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This is why brand new.
Dynamics rarely produce stagefour on the first scene or even
the first several scenes, unlessthe sub is faking it, honestly,
because it's not about skilllevel or chemistry, it's about
the depth of the trust thatexists between two people.
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And it's why DS relationshipsthat prioritize emotional safety
and consistent aftercare, theyconsistently produce deeper
subspace than those that treatthe dynamic as purely physical.
For DOMs at stage four, you arethe only thing anchoring your
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sub right now.
Your voice is the lifeline theyare holding on to.
Your presence is that containerthey are floating inside.
So reduce external stimulation,become the focal point.
Speak slowly and clearly.
If your sub is going somewheredeep and beautiful, your job is
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to hold that space, not toescalate it, not to add
complexity, not to make it more.
Just hold it.
Let them go as far as they cango.
Before we get into stage five,and trust me, you want to get to
stage five.
I want to make sure you actuallyhave a way to put all of this
into practice.
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So I have a free sample scene onmy site that walks you through
what a real scene looks likefrom start to finish.
You can see exactly how thesestages play out in an actual
dynamic.
It's at domsubliving.com/slashscene.
I'll also put the link in thedescription, so go grab it.
But okay, now stage number five,the surrender state.
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This is the one almost nobodytalks about, and it is the one
we have been building towardthis entire episode.
The surrender state is thedeepest level of subspace.
Body and mind are fully takenover by the experience.
The sub is not directinganything, they are not
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consciously participating in theway that we normally mean.
They are fully received andfully held and fully inside the
dynamic itself.
Some subs never reach this stagebecause getting here requires a
very specific combination ofthings coming together at the
same time.
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A high trust dynamic that hasbeen built over real time.
A Dom who understands what thisdepth looks like and knows how
to hold it.
A sub who has done enoughinternal work to genuinely
release control.
And a scene that has been pacedcorrectly and with care through
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all four of the precedingstages.
You cannot skip to stage five.
You can't manufacture it.
You can only create theconditions for it and then
basically just get out of theway.
Subs who have been here describeit in really consistent ways,
even when they have nevercompared notes with each other,
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even when they don't even havethe language for it yet.
But they say things like, Iwasn't gone, I was just
completely inside.
Like they say, I knew my Dom wasthere, but I couldn't have told
you anything else about theroom.
Or everything I usually worryabout was just not there.
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And the one I find the moststriking, because I have heard
it from so many different peoplein this community, it's when
they say, I wasn't afraid ofanything.
This is one of the mostvulnerable states a human being
can be in.
And because of thatvulnerability, because of how
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completely open and undefended asub is in stage five, what
happens in the momentsimmediately after this stage, it
matters more than almostanything else in a DS dynamic.
Which brings me to what Ipromised you at the very
beginning of this episode, thehidden stage that does not feel
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good the way the others do, theone that most people are
completely unprepared for.
The one I believe is the mostimportant stage of all: subdrop.
Subdrop is the neurochemicalcrash that comes after deep
subspace.
The endorphins are gone, andhonestly, it can feel like
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withdrawal.
There can be sadness, crying,irritability.
Sometimes for me, I genuinelyfeel like I'm sick.
And so many people white knucklethrough it alone because they
don't know what it is.
They think they're beingdramatic, or they don't want to
burden their DOM.
Meanwhile, the DOM has like noidea this is happening, or they
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back off to give them space atthe exact moment their sub needs
them the most.
And don't forget, too, that DOMscan experience their own drop
too.
So what helps?
Well, real aftercare.
Not a hug and some water, butpresence, food, nutrition, time,
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and the one thing most peopleskip explicit permission to not
be okay.
Like just say it out loud.
It's okay to feel this way.
Those words do more thananything else.
Okay, let's bring all of thistogether.
If you're a Dom, think aboutwhich stage your sub typically
reaches and what's standingbetween them from going further.
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A lot of the time it's somethingsimple like a ritual, a rhythm,
permission that was never given.
And if you're a sub, remember,surrender isn't being passive.
It's the most courageous kind ofletting go there is.
Trusting someone with your mostunguarded self is not a small
thing.
So honor it.
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Whether you're a Dom or a sub, Ihope this subspace framework
gave you something concrete youcan take into your next scene.
And remember, if you want to seehow a real scene happens from
start to finish, definitely grabmy free sample scene at
domsubliving.comslash scene.
There's a link for it in thedescription too.
And until next time, keepembracing your power and
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pleasure through Dom Subliving.
Most people think they or their partner have been
in subspace.
I'd argue most of them have onlyever made it to stage two.
Today I'm gonna share the fivestages of Subspace and how to
get there faster.
Welcome to the Dom Sub LivingPodcast.
Hey, it's Alessandra, andtoday's episode is one I've been
(00:20):
thinking about making for a longtime.
Subspace is one of those topicsthat comes up constantly in this
community.
People DM me about it, theyleave comments about it, it
comes up in conversations withpeople I meet at events, but
it's one of the mostmisunderstood experiences in
BDSM.
(00:40):
Most of what you find out thereon the topic is either too vague
to be useful or it's so clinicaland dry that it doesn't actually
help you understand what to dowith the information.
Neither of those is going tohelp you get there.
So I built a framework.
Five stages, each one distinct,each one with its own signs, its
(01:02):
own feel, and its own strategiesfor getting there.
By the time we are done today,you are going to understand
subspace better than most peoplein this lifestyle.
Whether you are a sub who wantsto go deeper or a DOM who wants
to actually guide your partnerthere, this episode is for you.
But what is subspace really?
(01:24):
Because before I walk youthrough the five stages, I want
to make sure we are all startingfrom the same place because
there is a lot of misinformationfloating around about what
subspace actually is.
And some of it is not onlyinaccurate, it's genuinely
setting people up for confusionand for disappointment in their
(01:47):
dynamics.
The most common explanation youwill hear goes something like
this.
So, subspace is when you feelfloaty and blissed out during a
scene.
And look, that's not wrong, butit's like describing running a
marathon as the part when youcross the finish line.
You are skipping literallyeverything that happened to get
(02:10):
there.
So let me give you the realexplanation.
Subspace is a neurochemicalstate.
When you are in a BDSM scene,especially one involving
physical intensity andpsychological death or high
levels of trust, your bodyreleases a cocktail of
(02:31):
chemicals.
We are talking endorphins,adrenaline, oxytocin, and
dopamine.
It's actually kind of like therunner's high that a lot of the
serious athletes talk about.
Your brain starts filtering outeverything that isn't the
present moment.
And the prefrontal cortex, thatpart of your brain that's
(02:52):
responsible for rational thoughtand self-monitoring and
judgment, all of that starts toquiet down.
And what's left is puresensation and presence and
connection.
And here is what I findgenuinely fascinating about the
physiology of all this.
Your nervous system does notknow the difference between I am
(03:16):
in real danger and my DOM ispushing my limits in a
consensual negotiated scene.
The physiological response isreally similar.
Your body enters a kind ofhyperfocus, altered state either
way.
The difference, the entiredifference, is the psychological
(03:38):
container of trust and consentthat surrounds it.
Now, does that mean thatsubspace is automatic?
Does it mean that if you just doenough intense stuff in a scene,
it will happen?
No, absolutely not.
And that is the part thatfrustrates so many people.
(03:58):
Cause have you ever been in ascene where you just could not
drop in?
Like everything was technicallyhappening.
The physical sensations werethere, your partner was doing
all the right things, but yourhead was just somewhere else
entirely.
You were in your body, but notfully present.
(04:19):
You were going through themotions, but you couldn't turn
off the noise.
That is not a personal failure,that is a stage one problem.
And I'm going to explain exactlywhat I mean by that in just a
moment.
So let's start with stage one.
So stage one is what I call thesubmissive mindset.
(04:40):
And I want to be really clearabout something before I go into
it.
But this stage does not startwhen the scene starts.
It starts before, sometimes wellbefore.
This is the stage where you feelsubmissive.
You are still fully aware.
You are thinking clearly, youare in control of yourself,
(05:02):
you're making choices, butsomething in you has already
oriented you towards your DOM.
There is a willingness, anopenness, a kind of readiness
that wasn't there an hour ago.
Think of it as your internalcompass swinging to point in one
direction.
(05:22):
But here is where most peopleget this wrong.
They treat subspace like a lightswitch.
They think it starts the momentthe scene starts, and then they
wonder why their head is stillfull of noise 15 minutes in.
When I struggled with this inthe past, I may be mentally
still thinking about my to-dolist.
(05:43):
So the reason you just can'tseem to get there is because
stage one never happened, or ithappened in 30 seconds while the
DOM was still setting up thescene, which is not enough time
for your nervous system toactually make the transition.
Think about it this way.
I'm going to use the raceanalogy again, but if you were
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training for a race, and I'mactually training for a 5K right
now, so this is very top of mindfor me, but you would not sit in
your car until the starting hornwent off and then just get out
and sprint.
Your body would not be ready.
You would pull something, butinstead you warm up, you give
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your body and your mind time toshift into the mode that is
needed.
Subspace requires a warm-up too.
And that warm up is stage one.
So how do you actually get tostage one?
How do you create thatsubmissive mindset before a
scene?
And for DOMS, how do you helpyour sub do that?
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Well, the answer is rituals.
Rituals are the shortcut tostage one, and I cannot
overstate how powerful they are.
A ritual is anything thatconsistently signals to your
brain like we are entering adifferent mode now.
It could be a specific piece ofmusic that only gets played
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before scenes.
It could be a phrase your Domsays and it's just said the same
way every time.
For us, the ritual is I put myhair back, I will change into
whatever clothes or lack ofclothes my Dom wants me to be
in.
I will kneel before him and hewill put my play collar on.
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Your brain is a patternrecognition machine.
It learns to associate thosecues with the submissive state.
And over time, sometimessurprisingly quickly, you can
drop into stage one almost oncommand.
The ritual does the neurologicalwork for you.
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It's kind of like the Pavlov'sdog scenario where he would ring
a bell before he fed his dog andthe dog would start salivating
anytime the bell would be rung,even if it wasn't giving any
food.
It's the same exact thing.
So here's my question for you,and I genuinely want you to
think about this.
So, what does your pre-seenritual look like right now?
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And if the honest answer is Idon't really have one, or we
just kind of start, that mightbe exactly why you're not
dropping as deep as you need to.
Now, stage two is the drop-in.
And this is the first realshift, the first thing that
feels noticeably different fromyour everyday state.
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You feel it as a quieting, themental chatter starts to slow
down, you stop thinking incomplete sentences, and your
awareness narrows.
It's not that the rest of theworld has disappeared yet.
It's more like it's just gettingfurther away, less urgent, like
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you've turned down the volume oneverything that isn't in this
room, that isn't this person orthis moment.
Physically, you might noticeyour breathing changes.
It can deepen, it can slow, yourshoulders kind of drop.
There is a softening in yourbody that is genuinely hard to
describe, but very easy torecognize once you know what
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you're looking for.
For me, it feels like a fullbody exhale where I just let go
of all of the tension I washolding that I didn't even know
was there.
For DOMs listening right now,this is the stage where your sub
starts to become specificallyresponsive to you.
This is the moment when theconnection tightens.
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Your voice carries more weighthere than it did 60 seconds ago.
Your touch lands differently.
The scene is no longer just aseries of activities where you
do this and then you do that.
It becomes an exchange, a powerexchange.
So use that deliberately.
This is not the time to escalateintensity.
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This is the time to anchor.
I want to share somethingpersonal here because I think it
illustrates the stage betterthan any technical description
could.
But I remember a scene from afew months ago when I was
completely convinced I was notgoing to be able to drop.
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I was stressed out about one ofour kids.
I had a lot going on.
My head was really loud andbusy, and I had basically
accepted that this scene wasjust going to be physically
enjoyable, but mentally I wasgoing to kind of just stay on
the surface, so to speak.
And my Dom, he did something Iwasn't expecting.
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He slowed everything down.
He was using the writing crop onme in that moment, but he just
reduced the intensity and thespeed instead of increasing it.
He dropped his voice to likejust a whisper, and he put his
other hand on the back of myhead, and he just stayed there
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and told me to breathe.
And within a few minutes, I feltit.
That first real quiet, thatfirst sense of the outside world
getting further away.
That drop-in doesn't alwaysrequire intensity to get there.
Sometimes it requires the exactopposite, like it did for me.
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So, how do you get to stage twofaster?
Well, intentional breath pacingis one of the most underused
tools in DS Dynamics, and itworks so good here.
So the DOM guides their sub tobreathe with their voice, like
breathe with me, breathe in,breathe out.
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That kind of pacing synchronizesyour nervous system.
It tells your body that there isa leader in the room and that
the leader has things handled.
They're literally controllingyour breath.
Your nervous system responds tothat signal by beginning to
relax its vigilance.
Sensory focus is the other majorway to do this.
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So some subs drop into stage twofastest when they are asked to
hold direct eye contact withtheir DOM.
There's that connection of beingtruly seen while being truly
present.
And it's incredibly grounding.
Other subs drop faster when thatvisual input is removed.
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So a blindfold takes away theoption of being distracted by
the room and your remainingsenses just kind of intensify.
Know which way your sub respondsto.
If you don't know yet, that isinformation worth finding out.
And here's something I want youto hold on to because I'm going
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to come back to it when we reachstage four.
But the subs who drop deepestare almost never the ones who
are trying the hardest.
There is a reason for that, aneurological reason.
And it has everything to do withwhat happens in your body when
you stop chasing the feeling andstart trusting the process
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instead.
I'll explain it fully when weget there, but let's move on to
stage three.
This is the lock-in.
This is where things getgenuinely interesting.
And this is the stage that Ithink is most underrepresented
in conversations about subspace.
So the drop-in is about quietingand letting go.
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Lock-in is about focus.
Your awareness has narrowed to avery specific point, usually the
DOM or the sensation or themoment.
And everything outside of thatbasically has ceased to exist.
This is your brain enteringsomething very close to a flow
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state.
So again, athletes know thisexperience, musicians know it,
surgeons even know it.
It's the experience of being socompletely absorbed in what you
are doing that time stopsfeeling linear.
You are not thinking about whatcomes next in the scene.
You are not replaying what justhappened.
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You are entirely, completelyright here.
For subs, stage three oftenfeels like tunnel vision in the
best possible sense.
Your Dom's voice is louder thaneverything else in existence.
Physical sensation is heightenedand more precise.
Instructions arrive in yourbrain almost before they finish
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being spoken because yourattention is entirely attuned to
that one source.
For DOMs, and this is important,so I want to say it clearly,
stage three is where yourconsistency becomes the most
critical thing in the scene.
Your sub is locked into you now,and any significant break in the
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dynamic can pull them out ofthis state completely.
So maybe you get physicallydistracted, like you can't find
a specific toy, or you fumblewith something, or you just
handle something awkwardly, thatthat can all throw off your
submissive.
I have a story about this thatis a little painful to tell, but
I think it's genuinely useful.
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I have been in scenes where Ihit stage three.
I was deep in it, fully lockedin, and I saw my Dom pause to
check his Apple Watch.
Like not for long, maybe justthree seconds, but I felt the
pull out of lock-in happenalmost immediately.
I mean, I wasn't angry about it.
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We have kids, so we have tocheck our notifications.
And it wasn't a big dramaticinterruption.
It just meant the thing mynervous system was anchored to
had suddenly divided itsattention, and the focal point
just kind of split.
And my brain, which had beenrunning so beautifully on the
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single track of this person,this moment, it suddenly had to
recalibrate.
It is a lesson I think about alot when I talk to DOMs that I
mentor about presence.
Being physically in the room isnot the same as being fully
present.
Your sub will feel thedifference, even at stages where
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they cannot articulate it.
Like the thing with my Dom'swatch.
I didn't really put two and twotogether about how it affected
me until after the scene when wewere debriefing it and I got to
tell them.
So, how do you get to stagethree faster or more accurately,
how do you deepen it?
Well, it's repetition andrhythm.
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This is where these elementsbecome incredibly powerful
tools.
And it's not a coincidence thatimpact play and breath work and
repetitive praises and repeatedcommands, all of these tend to
produce deeper states.
Again, your brain is a patternrecognition machine, and when
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you introduce rhythm into ascene, you are giving the
nervous system a track to runon.
It finds the groove and it goesdeeper into it.
The rhythm becomes a kind oftrance induction.
Have you ever noticed that thescenes with the most consistent
rhythm a lot of times tend to bethe ones that produce the
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deepest subspace?
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But that's not random.
That is neuroscience.
Now let's move into stage four,deep subspace.
This is what most people meanwhen they say subspace.
This is the state people arechasing, and it's extraordinary.
It's floaty, it's heavy, it'seuphoric.
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The physical body might feeldistant, like it belongs to
someone else, or like you'reobserving it from you know
outside of it.
Thinking in complete sentencesis usually difficult.
Time is distorted in a way thatis hard to explain until you've
experienced it.
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But 10 minutes can feel like anhour, or a whole hour can
disappear in what feels like ahandful of minutes.
The neurochemical response isfully active here.
Endorphins are flooding yoursystem.
Adrenaline has done its job andit's leveled out.
Oxytocin is doing profoundthings for the emotional bond in
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the room.
That's the bonding chemical.
And it is working overtime instage four.
For me, I would describe thisstage as a meditative state.
It's just a complete, totalrelease of ego and
self-consciousness.
Other subs describe it asfeeling held by something larger
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than just the scene.
There's usually a quality ofpeace in it that they struggle
to find anywhere else in theirlives.
It's a spiritual experience.
This stage is profound and itrequires profound responsibility
from the Dom.
Because here is what is alsotrue about stage four that does
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not get said enough.
Your sub cannot fully advocatefor themselves right now.
Their verbal communication maybe really small or delayed or
completely absent.
Their ability to process painsignals the way they normally
would is really compromised.
Those same endorphins thatcreate the bliss are also acting
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as pain relievers, raising theirpain threshold.
This is why relying on a safeword as your only safety
mechanism at this depth isgenuinely risky.
Your sub may not be able toaccess it clearly.
So you, as the Dom, need to beconstantly checking in with your
sub and assessing their bodylanguage.
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Now, I told you earlier that Iwould explain why the subs who
drop deepest are not the onestrying hardest.
Here is why.
The gateway to stage four issurrender.
And surrender cannot be forced,and surrender can't be an act
either.
It can only be allowed.
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Here's why this mattersphysiologically.
The act of trying to get intosubspace, like constantly
striving for it, monitoringwhether you are there yet,
measuring how deep you aregoing, all that activates the
prefrontal cortex.
That's the analyticalself-monitoring part of your
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brain.
And stage four requires thatpart of the brain to go quiet.
You cannot think your way intodeep subspace.
The trying is the obstacle here.
So the path to deep subspace istrust.
Specifically, trust that yourDOM has you.
Trust that you don't need tomanage the scene.
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It's trust that you can let gocompletely and that container
will hold.
That trust is built outside ofscenes.
It's built through consistencyand through communication and
through repair when things gowrong, through being seen and
known over time.
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This is why brand new.
Dynamics rarely produce stagefour on the first scene or even
the first several scenes, unlessthe sub is faking it, honestly,
because it's not about skilllevel or chemistry, it's about
the depth of the trust thatexists between two people.
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And it's why DS relationshipsthat prioritize emotional safety
and consistent aftercare, theyconsistently produce deeper
subspace than those that treatthe dynamic as purely physical.
For DOMs at stage four, you arethe only thing anchoring your
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sub right now.
Your voice is the lifeline theyare holding on to.
Your presence is that containerthey are floating inside.
So reduce external stimulation,become the focal point.
Speak slowly and clearly.
If your sub is going somewheredeep and beautiful, your job is
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to hold that space, not toescalate it, not to add
complexity, not to make it more.
Just hold it.
Let them go as far as they cango.
Before we get into stage five,and trust me, you want to get to
stage five.
I want to make sure you actuallyhave a way to put all of this
into practice.
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So I have a free sample scene onmy site that walks you through
what a real scene looks likefrom start to finish.
You can see exactly how thesestages play out in an actual
dynamic.
It's at domsubliving.com/slashscene.
I'll also put the link in thedescription, so go grab it.
But okay, now stage number five,the surrender state.
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This is the one almost nobodytalks about, and it is the one
we have been building towardthis entire episode.
The surrender state is thedeepest level of subspace.
Body and mind are fully takenover by the experience.
The sub is not directinganything, they are not
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consciously participating in theway that we normally mean.
They are fully received andfully held and fully inside the
dynamic itself.
Some subs never reach this stagebecause getting here requires a
very specific combination ofthings coming together at the
same time.
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A high trust dynamic that hasbeen built over real time.
A Dom who understands what thisdepth looks like and knows how
to hold it.
A sub who has done enoughinternal work to genuinely
release control.
And a scene that has been pacedcorrectly and with care through
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all four of the precedingstages.
You cannot skip to stage five.
You can't manufacture it.
You can only create theconditions for it and then
basically just get out of theway.
Subs who have been here describeit in really consistent ways,
even when they have nevercompared notes with each other,
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even when they don't even havethe language for it yet.
But they say things like, Iwasn't gone, I was just
completely inside.
Like they say, I knew my Dom wasthere, but I couldn't have told
you anything else about theroom.
Or everything I usually worryabout was just not there.
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And the one I find the moststriking, because I have heard
it from so many different peoplein this community, it's when
they say, I wasn't afraid ofanything.
This is one of the mostvulnerable states a human being
can be in.
And because of thatvulnerability, because of how
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completely open and undefended asub is in stage five, what
happens in the momentsimmediately after this stage, it
matters more than almostanything else in a DS dynamic.
Which brings me to what Ipromised you at the very
beginning of this episode, thehidden stage that does not feel
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good the way the others do, theone that most people are
completely unprepared for.
The one I believe is the mostimportant stage of all: subdrop.
Subdrop is the neurochemicalcrash that comes after deep
subspace.
The endorphins are gone, andhonestly, it can feel like
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withdrawal.
There can be sadness, crying,irritability.
Sometimes for me, I genuinelyfeel like I'm sick.
And so many people white knucklethrough it alone because they
don't know what it is.
They think they're beingdramatic, or they don't want to
burden their DOM.
Meanwhile, the DOM has like noidea this is happening, or they
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back off to give them space atthe exact moment their sub needs
them the most.
And don't forget, too, that DOMscan experience their own drop
too.
So what helps?
Well, real aftercare.
Not a hug and some water, butpresence, food, nutrition, time,
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and the one thing most peopleskip explicit permission to not
be okay.
Like just say it out loud.
It's okay to feel this way.
Those words do more thananything else.
Okay, let's bring all of thistogether.
If you're a Dom, think aboutwhich stage your sub typically
reaches and what's standingbetween them from going further.
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A lot of the time it's somethingsimple like a ritual, a rhythm,
permission that was never given.
And if you're a sub, remember,surrender isn't being passive.
It's the most courageous kind ofletting go there is.
Trusting someone with your mostunguarded self is not a small
thing.
So honor it.
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Whether you're a Dom or a sub, Ihope this subspace framework
gave you something concrete youcan take into your next scene.
And remember, if you want to seehow a real scene happens from
start to finish, definitely grabmy free sample scene at
domsubliving.comslash scene.
There's a link for it in thedescription too.
And until next time, keepembracing your power and
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pleasure through Dom Subliving.
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