April 30, 2025 • 30 mins
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Jana (00:07):
Welcome to the Double R Show, the podcast that features
everything about North LincolnCounty.
The Double R Show directed andproduced by Paul Robertson and
hosted by the voice of LincolnCity, Roger Robertson.
RR (00:30):
And welcome to the Double R Show.
Double R here along with sonPaul.
And it is going to be a specialprogram.
We have some...
Powerful guests going to be onboard with us.
Son Paul (00:40):
Yeah, three of them actually, right?
So we've got the mayor fromLincoln City.
Yep.
And then, of course,Representative Gomberg and
Senator Anderson are also bothjoining us from the road.
On the road again,
RR (00:51):
so to speak.
They're on their way to KlamathFalls when we record this
interview.
But it is very informativebecause they're talking about
exactly what's happening as wespeak in Salem.
We will be back and do theinterviews or play the
interviews for you.
But first, I'd like to remindeverybody and invite you to a
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special activity.
It's going to be taking placeat St.
Peter the Fisherman LutheranChurch.
It is their annual spectacular,I underscore spectacular,
rummage sale.
Clothes, dishes, linen, smallappliances, and a whole lot
more.
This is going to be Friday andSaturday, May 2nd and 3rd.
So put it on your calendar, 9to 3 on Friday, 9 to 3 on
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Saturday.
And we also, on Saturday, havea half-price sale.
That's a dollar a bag.
That'll be from 2 until 3 onSaturday.
Lunch is served both days, 11to 2.
And all proceeds go to themission projects of St.
Peter the Fisherman LutheranChurch right here in Lincoln
City.
So be at the rummage sale andbe here.
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We'll be back in just a moment.
Zantella (01:57):
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assist you in life's matters.
RR (02:12):
If you're looking for great early garden fresh produce, it's
Kenny's IGA in the Bay Area ofLincoln City.
Four generations of Morganscaring for your every grocery
need.
All of your favorite beverages,a full deli, meat, produce, and
of course, groceries.
The state of the city, the cityof Lincoln City, Mayor Susan
Wacke is here.
And in a couple of words, MayorWacke, state of the city is...
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Prospering.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (02:37):
Prospering.
I like that word.
Yes.
Our budget for the upcomingfiscal year is $103 million.
RR (02:46):
$103 million?
Really?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (02:50):
Yep.
Yep.
RR (02:51):
That's a staggering figure.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (02:53):
It is.
I think last year was 98million, and that seemed like a
lot.
But now we've reached over 100.
In
RR (03:00):
$103 million, why?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:03):
Because things are going well.
Oh.
We are collecting a lot oflodging tax because people like
to come visit and stayovernight.
We also have a staff that isvery good at finding
opportunities for grants, andthat really helps.
RR (03:24):
Especially Parks and Rec.
Yes, yes.
And I guess the planningdepartment is after that as
well.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:31):
Yes.
RR (03:31):
So
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:31):
you can't just see.
And Public Works.
RR (03:34):
Public Works, okay.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:35):
We got a big...
grant to do our watershedprotection study, and now the
proposed budget sets aside moneyto acquire some of our
watershed land.
RR (03:49):
So that $103 million would include the grants that the city
is able to get from wherever?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:55):
That $103 includes grants that we are
Certain of.
RR (04:03):
Okay.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (04:03):
There could be more money coming in with
grants we don't know about yet.
RR (04:07):
Wow.
You've spoken in front of theLincoln City Chamber of
Commerce, the Rotary, theKiwanis Club, all carrying the
same message about the state ofthe city.
And anything in particular thatyou want to hone in on?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (04:21):
How things are moving along.
You know, some things take along time to move along, and
others get done pretty fast.
There's just lots of reasonsthat things take time.
There are things happening nowthat were started eight years
ago.
It just takes time to getthings done.
RR (04:41):
And speaking of getting things done, I'm sorry to say
that you did announce that acity manager has stepped down.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (04:49):
Yes, she has an opportunity to care for
family, and she's in a positionthat she's able to do.
get away from the workforce fora little while and do that, and
I'm really happy for her.
RR (05:01):
Congratulations to Daphne LaGarza.
I do enjoy visiting with herand interviewing her because she
is so open about what's goingon at City Hall.
She
Mayor Susan Wahlke (05:13):
is a great communicator.
RR (05:14):
Now what?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (05:15):
We have an opportunity for City Manager Pro
Tem for a six-month period, andthen we will begin our search
for a permanent So
RR (05:27):
that could be somebody that is a retired city manager or a
current employee or what?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (05:34):
There are several retired city managers
who do fill in as interim citymanagers, and this is an
opportunity if one of them wantsto send us a letter.
RR (05:48):
As Mayor Wacke looks at hiring a new city manager, which
you did make mention in yourremarks, you've only got three
people you actually hire.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (05:58):
The council hires, yes.
Well, yes, the city council.
The seven of us.
And the mayor, yes.
The seven of us hire the citymanager, the city attorney, and
the municipal judge.
And we've hired...
one of each since I've beenmayor and we will be hiring
another city manager.
RR (06:18):
Anything that you would disclose at this point in time
or could disclose at this timethat you would be most
interested in the qualificationfor that new city manager?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (06:29):
I'm looking for someone who works as part of
a team.
We have a great team, and Iwant to find a team leader.
RR (06:42):
A team is critically important when you've got a
budget of $103 million, and howmany employees offhand?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (06:50):
A lot.
RR (06:51):
A lot.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (06:53):
I was giving a presentation a year ago at a
conference and talking about allthe grants and wonderful things
that our city was doing.
And someone from a small citysaid, and what's your staff?
I said, a lot more than yourcity.
Sorry.
And a lot less than Portland.
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Yes.
Oh, yeah.
And a lot less than Portland.
RR (07:17):
Meriwaki, again, congratulations on the next
year, if you will, stepping up.
I don't know how you do it andcontinue to do it, but thank you
for doing what you and the restof the council do as
volunteers.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (07:32):
Thank you.
I appreciate the communitysupport.
Son Paul (07:36):
Hello, this is Paul Robertson with Robertson
Environmental, and as a TAFgraduate, I'm just asking people
to renew, repair, and reinvestin our local schools.
The new bond measure is areinvestment opportunity that
will not raise your taxes andjust help to repair and update
our local schools for health,safety, security, and more.
So again, vote yes for schools.
La Roca (08:00):
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RR (08:20):
On the phone with us is Senator Dick Anderson, and
Senator Anderson, we'repre-recording this for later
play, but right now you're onI-5 headed towards Klamath
Falls.
Senator Dick Anderson (08:33):
That's exactly right, Roger.
I've got a whole wave of memes,community memes, listening
program tonight in KlamathFalls, Ways and Means being the
budget committee for the state.
So we're listening and actuallywe've been going around the
state having these listeningtours to hear about the needs of
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the community directly from thecommunity.
So for me, it makes a big
RR (09:00):
difference.
Is there been any surprises inthat so far, Dick, to you?
Needs, wants, desires,questions?
Senator Dick Anderson (09:09):
You know, good question.
Not any surprises.
I guess for me, it's themagnitude of the need.
And it really gets to, for me,livability, community livability
kind of issues, infrastructure,health care, concerns around
education.
And so it's not surprising.
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It's just, boy, the volume ofasks is amazing.
RR (09:37):
Volume of asks is amazing.
You say like what?
Senator Dick Anderson (09:41):
Well, for dollars.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, most of these are dollarapps that their respective
communities can't afford thetotal cost of the infrastructure
or whatever the need is.
RR (09:55):
Now, you probably will not be able to finalize a budget
until the final revenue forecastcomes out, but that doesn't
come for another week or two,correct?
Senator Dick Anderson (10:08):
That's correct.
I think it's the 17th of Maythat last economic forecast is
given, and that will clarify howmuch money the state really has
available and can then do theallocation out.
Quite rightly, a lot of thepolicy bills that I've seen this
session have what's calledfiscal.
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They have money attached tothem.
So they've just been piled upin what we call ways of means,
waiting for any kind of bill atany
RR (10:41):
time.
Before this piece runs on ourDouble R show, you will have...
carried a bill through theSenate for housing.
It's a major piece oflegislation you've been pushing,
correct?
Senator Dick Anderson (10:54):
Very much so.
You know, actually, I've gottwo major, well, three major
housing bills.
One of them has already made itthrough the Senate, and it's
over on the House side, and ithas to do with apprenticeship
for building inspections.
That's on the run, hoping toget through the House side.
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There's two other bills.
One, when this airs, hopefullyhas cleared the Senate chamber.
It's 974.
It's a fast track for lawinside the urban growth boundary
to develop raw land intohousing-ready kind of
development.
Right now, that process takes agood two to three years.
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My bill cuts that down to oneyear, which should help.
The other bill, and final one,is actually a similar fast-track
bill for building permits.
It proposes and directs citiesand municipalities to generate
housing permits within 45 days.
So what we're trying to do isjust get this stuff ready to go,
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not with the bureaucracy ofgovernment, slow down our need
for housing.
It's getting fixed in the air.
RR (12:09):
There is a growing need for housing in all economic sectors,
is there not?
Senator Dick Anderson (12:16):
You're exactly right, Roger.
It's not just theincome-restricted affordable
housing.
It's the middle housing.
It's, my surprise, even marketrate housing.
And you can tell that,actually, with the building
permits that have been issued in2024 and now in 2025 are
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actually way below, you know,our previous running rate of
some 20,000 per bit.
Now they're like 15,000.
So, you know, it's not gettingany better is the problem.
RR (12:52):
Any other major pieces of legislation coming forth in the
next couple of weeks, Dick, thatyou'd like to expand upon?
Senator Dick Anderson (13:00):
You know, we're getting an onslaught from
the House.
So there'll be a lot of hotbills coming across, and they'll
filter to appropriate Senatecommittees, and then they'll go
to the floor or go off to whatthey haven't already been
waiting for the last 60 days ofthe legislature.
RR (13:22):
Oh, I lost you for a minute, Senator Anderson.
Oh,
Oh sorry must be in no man's land...
iOut there in the great beyond.
I think I'm probably going tolet you go because we seem to be
in that quagmire, if you will,of poor sound all of a sudden.
Senator Dick Anderson (13:43):
Sorry, Roger.
I couldn't.
Let's find another date.
RR (13:47):
We'll do it again and again and again because there is just
so much to talk about, and it isso critically important.
So drive careful to Cave Falls,Klamath Falls.
Listen well, and we'll talk toyou again when you get back on
the Oregon coast.
Senator Dick Anderson (14:06):
Okay.
Thank you, Roger
Senator Dick Anderson, back ina moment.
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RR (14:43):
On the phone is David Gomberg, state representative,
and he is on his way to KlamathFalls.
David, by the time this pieceairs, you'll be back in Lincoln
City and Salem, but on toK-Falls for what?
Rep David Gomberg (15:00):
Well, you know, I'm a member, I'm the vice
chair of the Ways and MeansCommittee, that's the budget
committee, and we have beentraveling around Oregon on a
series of hearings to determineto listen to Oregonians and find
out how they think we should bespending their tax money.
So we have been to Astoria,we've been to Grusham, we've
been to La Grande, we've been toWarm Springs, and this final
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program is going to be inKlamath Falls.
It's really interesting to goto these meetings and have
people lined up to talk abouttax expenditures.
And wherever we go in Oregon,I've observed that we're hearing
largely the same messages.
that we need to take care ofour schools, that we need to
provide health care and Medicaresupport through the Oregon
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Health Plan, that we need totake care of our roads, and that
local infrastructure is a bigdeal for small towns that can't
afford big projects.
So I expect that will be themessage we get tonight in
Klamath Falls as well.
RR (15:56):
By the time this piece airs, you will already be back.
What do you really expect tohear from the people of Eastern
Oregon?
Rep David Gomberg (16:05):
Well, again...
Okay.
Right.
Right.
which is exactly what we did.
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Now,
RR (16:39):
you got help, or Lincoln City got help from the state on
that project.
You, as a state, look to thefederal government for
assistance as well.
How is that looking to you?
Senator Dick Anderson (16:53):
Well, the last couple of years, we've had
a lot of money available to us,which is reflected in the
successes that we've broughthome.
This year, that's changing.
With federal grants beingcanceled or withdrawn, with
extra dollars not beingavailable.
I'll give you one example.
Two years ago, the legislativesession, by this stage, we had
forwarded more than 30 grantapplications to the federal
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government because when a stateagency asks for money from the
feds, it has to be approved bythe legislature.
Thirty proposals two years ago.
This legislative session sofar, we have only advanced eight
applications because thosegrants simply are not available.
RR (17:34):
Boy,
Rep David Gomberg (17:37):
that could begin to hurt.
So the belt tightening at thefederal level is having an
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effect here locally.
RR (18:00):
This morning, again, this piece is being recorded ahead of
time.
We had an opportunity to listento both you and Senator
Anderson on a Zoom call, if youwill, that covered not only
Lincoln, but some of the othercounties in the immediate area.
I asked you the question, haveyou heard of any programs...
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that are looking for fundingand they're offering ways to be
funded differently than what hasbeen in the past?
Senator Dick Anderson (18:33):
Well, you know, Roger, we can come up
with all kinds of creative waysto take your money.
And at the end of the day, it'sstill your money and it's
costing you something.
The challenge is to find thoseattractive taxes that somebody
else pays, like the lodging taxthat is collected by hotels,
motels, and vacation rentals.
Rep David Gomberg (18:55):
Right.
Senator Dick Anderson (18:58):
Right.
on electric vehicles, even atax on new cars.
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All of those are things thatOregonians pay, and I wanna make
sure all of our visitors arepaying as well.
Now, let me go back for amoment to the lodging tax,
because there's an interestingconversation evolving in Salem
about how we use those dollars.
Right now, the law says that70% of it has to be used for
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advertising or tourisminfrastructure, Cities are
asking if we can have a largerportion of that available for
the other things that touristsare costing us when they come to
town, for police or emergencysupport from the fire
department, for filling ourpotholes, for trash pickup.
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All of those are expenses thatwe are bearing when tourists
come to visit.
I very much appreciate thetourism industry, but we've got
to find a better way ofdispersing the dollars that they
leave behind so that localtaxpayers are not picking up all
the extra slack.
RR (20:27):
I think the League of Oregon Cities is supporting your
position.
The Hotel Association,obviously, is going to be in
opposition, correct?
Rep David Gomberg (20:38):
Well, that's the way it's playing out.
I mean, it's the way it'splayed out for years.
The Lodging Association says,no, spend the money on
advertising.
The cities are saying, give usa piece of it.
I think the conversation isrefined quite a bit so that this
session we're going to have avery interesting hearing,
probably in about two weeks, asthe cities ask for more of this
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money.
I'm suggesting that when wetalk about the 70% for tourism,
that we include public safety inthat.
We've got some extra money forthe police force we need, not
for the 10,000 people that livehere, but for the 50,000 people
that will be here on any summerweekend.
RR (21:17):
One final question, David, before we let you go, because we
want you to keep your hands onthe steering wheel as you drive
to Klamath Falls.
During the course of thissession, you wind up in the role
of Speaker of the House orrunning the Chamber of Sessions
numerous times.
Why is that?
Rep David Gomberg (21:39):
Well, I was honored to be elected by the
other members of the House to bewhat we call the Speaker Pro
Tem.
Speaker Pro Tem, I tell people,it's like being vice president.
Unknown (21:48):
Everybody knows who you are.
Nobody knows what you do.
Senator Dick Anderson (21:51):
But the fact of the matter is that I
have been asked to preside overthe House floor sessions almost
every day.
And it's interesting to be upat the front of the room and
managing the details of thefloor session as they evolve.
to tell you that we are notseeing a lot of conflict,
friction, or shenanigans.
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We're not seeing any indicationof walkouts.
We're not seeing delayingtactics like requiring bills be
read in their entirety.
We're not seeing major fightson the floor.
We may see them before we'redone, but for now everything is
running smoothly and I believeas it should be.
So there we are.
We're at the stage of sessionright now where All right,
RR (22:52):
David, we do appreciate you taking time to visit with us on
the way to Klamath Falls.
Look forward to your reportwhen you return.
Rep David Gomberg (23:02):
Looking forward to that as well.
Thank you so much, Roger.
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And our special thanks toChinook Winds Conceded Resort
celebrating big time in June,Paul, because they've got a
couple of huge names coming toChinook Winds.
Jay Leno, Arsenio Hall.
What a program.
Son Paul (23:51):
Right, and last week we weren't able to say who that
was, but they have releasedthose names.
Yeah, so when you get ArsenioHall as your backup comedian, I
think you've got a pretty bigbilling
RR (24:03):
there, yeah.
Jay Leno, Arsenio Hall, samebuilding at Chinook Winds Casino
Resort coming up in June.
If you haven't already boughtyour tickets, I would highly
encourage you to get up to thecasino and buy them because
they're going to be gone in aheartbeat.
Son Paul (24:18):
Yeah, this is a great 30th anniversary celebration for
Chinook Winds again.
And the date, June 20th?
June 20th.
June 20th.
Right
RR (24:26):
here in Lincoln City.
Backed up by fireworks, backedup by anniversary cake.
I mean, there's prizes thatthey'll have, drawings and on
and on and on.
We're going to have to haveHeather Hatton back here again
to talk about all of theactivities going to be taking
place at Chinook Winds for their30th, 30th anniversary.
Doesn't seem like they've beenhere all that long
Son Paul (24:48):
already.
30 years.
That's impressive.
30 years.
Big impact over the last threedecades and another three
decades in the future to belooking forward to.
Just think of all
RR (24:58):
of the jobs that they've created and the families they've
supported, the insurancesthey've paid for over the course
of 30 years.
So on behalf of Chinook WindsCasino Resort or for Chinook
Winds Casino Resort, I just haveto say thank you.
Yeah.
It's better at the beach.
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RR (25:32):
Well, it has been another interesting program to have a
state senator, a staterepresentative, and a mayor all
on the same program talkingabout what really affects you
and I every single day and willfor some time to come.
Son Paul (25:46):
Yeah, we appreciate all of them taking the time to
join us on the Double R Show andfitting them into their
schedules on the road and in thestudio It's really great.
So thank you.
RR (25:57):
On the road, it was probably some of the lines a little
difficult to understand becauseit just depended upon where they
were.
But they were on I-5 someplace.
Right.
That was confirmed.
That was confirmed.
Lincoln City Chamber ofCommerce Business Conference
coming up on June 27th.
Talk to Lori if you would liketo be one of the sponsors for
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that event.
Got a Grand Bazaar, a fullweekend of festivities at the
Lincoln City Chamber ofCommerce.
This is an interesting way toraise money.
What they do is acceptcontributions of costume
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jewelry, any jewelry, and thenthey sell it off with all the
money going to food share.
This is going to be onSaturday, May 10th, 10 to 1 and
2 to 4 for the half price saleat the Central Coastal Assembly
of God Church down in Newport.
So all the proceeds go tosupport food share of Lincoln
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County.
Tiger Tracks 5K run and a 10Krun going to be May 4th at
Wapiti Park.
And this is for the Taft HighBooster Club raising money.
And again, I'd like to remindeverybody of the spectacular
rubbing sales sponsored by St.
Peter the Fisherman LutheranChurch this Friday and Saturday,
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Friday 9 to 3, Saturday 9 to 3,half-price All day on Saturday.
A dollar a bag sale on Saturdayas well, two to three.
And lunch, they do a marvelousjob with lunch.
I like the lunch at St.
Peter the Fisherman LutheranChurch right across from the
Lincoln City Outlets.
And the lunch is served at 11until 2.
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You have another activity thatis coming up as well we need to
talk about.
Son Paul (27:49):
Yeah, we're launching the Cascade Head Biosphere Beach
Ambassador Program.
So this is going to be an eventthat runs for eight days, eight
low tide events throughout thesummer.
But the first one is Saturday,May 3rd.
And that low tide is rightaround noontime.
And what it is, is we're goingto have a gentleman down there
named Josh Havland.
And he's a local filmmaker,actually.
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He did the Chesera movie thatyou saw that we did last year.
Yes, right.
Cascade Head, Scenic ResearchAct area.
But he's going to be kind of asteward there, right down there
at 15th Street at the tidepools, Northwest 15th, where you
walk down, don't drive down tothe beach no longer drive down
let's never drive on the beachit's not what the beach is there
for i know it was part of ouryou know oregon law that got the
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beaches open to the public butlet's just uh keep them that way
anyway so but yeah so joshua'sgoing to be down there northwest
15th street saturday may 3rdand then again friday may 23rd
and the rest of the dates are onthe casket head website and
he's just going to be there toanswer questions uh share
information about the tide poolsand uh and and the biosphere in
general so come on down and seehim
RR (28:54):
that Now, you've also got a lot of children that have been
schooled, if you will, in theoutdoors.
Right,
Son Paul (29:01):
yeah.
So for the last month, we'vebeen hiking fifth and sixth
graders up and down a watershedtrail that was built there out
down at Westwind.
And it's a story about theraindrop to sea.
And so it follows this raindropas it rises out of the ocean,
lands onto the headlands, andworks its way down the
watershed.
And it's an educational programthat we have developed.
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You can read about it.
And listen and see all thosevideos at CascadeHead.org, just
the education page yourself.
So feel free.
And then the last thing Iwanted to mention is we're also
launching another, well, it'sthe relaunch of a program.
So last year we started theCascade Head Biosphere
Explorance.
Right.
And so that was an event thatwill run again at Night Park.
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And the first one is May 9th.
And so we have a new hostthere.
We had her on the air lastweek.
Yeah, Christina Pasca.
And so she'll be leading thoseBiosphere Explorance.
is there at Night Park.
And so join her any number ofdays, but starting Friday, May
9th at 10.30 a.m.
RR (30:02):
Anything else your side of the table?
No, I think we filled it up.
So that'll do it to the dudeson the Double R Show.
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family and friends around theworld and across the street can
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RR (00:30):
And welcome to the Double R Show.
Double R here along with sonPaul.
And it is going to be a specialprogram.
We have some...
Powerful guests going to be onboard with us.
Son Paul (00:40):
Yeah, three of them actually, right?
So we've got the mayor fromLincoln City.
Yep.
And then, of course,Representative Gomberg and
Senator Anderson are also bothjoining us from the road.
On the road again,
RR (00:51):
so to speak.
They're on their way to KlamathFalls when we record this
interview.
But it is very informativebecause they're talking about
exactly what's happening as wespeak in Salem.
We will be back and do theinterviews or play the
interviews for you.
But first, I'd like to remindeverybody and invite you to a
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special activity.
It's going to be taking placeat St.
Peter the Fisherman LutheranChurch.
It is their annual spectacular,I underscore spectacular,
rummage sale.
Clothes, dishes, linen, smallappliances, and a whole lot
more.
This is going to be Friday andSaturday, May 2nd and 3rd.
So put it on your calendar, 9to 3 on Friday, 9 to 3 on
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Saturday.
And we also, on Saturday, havea half-price sale.
That's a dollar a bag.
That'll be from 2 until 3 onSaturday.
Lunch is served both days, 11to 2.
And all proceeds go to themission projects of St.
Peter the Fisherman LutheranChurch right here in Lincoln
City.
So be at the rummage sale andbe here.
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We'll be back in just a moment.
Zantella (01:57):
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I'm Josh Zantello, and our lawfirm is now located across from
the Lincoln City CommunityCenter on Northeast 21st.
Our law firm of knowledgeableprofessionals stand ready to
assist you in life's matters.
RR (02:12):
If you're looking for great early garden fresh produce, it's
Kenny's IGA in the Bay Area ofLincoln City.
Four generations of Morganscaring for your every grocery
need.
All of your favorite beverages,a full deli, meat, produce, and
of course, groceries.
The state of the city, the cityof Lincoln City, Mayor Susan
Wacke is here.
And in a couple of words, MayorWacke, state of the city is...
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Prospering.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (02:37):
Prospering.
I like that word.
Yes.
Our budget for the upcomingfiscal year is $103 million.
RR (02:46):
$103 million?
Really?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (02:50):
Yep.
Yep.
RR (02:51):
That's a staggering figure.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (02:53):
It is.
I think last year was 98million, and that seemed like a
lot.
But now we've reached over 100.
In
RR (03:00):
$103 million, why?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:03):
Because things are going well.
Oh.
We are collecting a lot oflodging tax because people like
to come visit and stayovernight.
We also have a staff that isvery good at finding
opportunities for grants, andthat really helps.
RR (03:24):
Especially Parks and Rec.
Yes, yes.
And I guess the planningdepartment is after that as
well.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:31):
Yes.
RR (03:31):
So
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:31):
you can't just see.
And Public Works.
RR (03:34):
Public Works, okay.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:35):
We got a big...
grant to do our watershedprotection study, and now the
proposed budget sets aside moneyto acquire some of our
watershed land.
RR (03:49):
So that $103 million would include the grants that the city
is able to get from wherever?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (03:55):
That $103 includes grants that we are
Certain of.
RR (04:03):
Okay.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (04:03):
There could be more money coming in with
grants we don't know about yet.
RR (04:07):
Wow.
You've spoken in front of theLincoln City Chamber of
Commerce, the Rotary, theKiwanis Club, all carrying the
same message about the state ofthe city.
And anything in particular thatyou want to hone in on?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (04:21):
How things are moving along.
You know, some things take along time to move along, and
others get done pretty fast.
There's just lots of reasonsthat things take time.
There are things happening nowthat were started eight years
ago.
It just takes time to getthings done.
RR (04:41):
And speaking of getting things done, I'm sorry to say
that you did announce that acity manager has stepped down.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (04:49):
Yes, she has an opportunity to care for
family, and she's in a positionthat she's able to do.
get away from the workforce fora little while and do that, and
I'm really happy for her.
RR (05:01):
Congratulations to Daphne LaGarza.
I do enjoy visiting with herand interviewing her because she
is so open about what's goingon at City Hall.
She
Mayor Susan Wahlke (05:13):
is a great communicator.
RR (05:14):
Now what?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (05:15):
We have an opportunity for City Manager Pro
Tem for a six-month period, andthen we will begin our search
for a permanent So
RR (05:27):
that could be somebody that is a retired city manager or a
current employee or what?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (05:34):
There are several retired city managers
who do fill in as interim citymanagers, and this is an
opportunity if one of them wantsto send us a letter.
RR (05:48):
As Mayor Wacke looks at hiring a new city manager, which
you did make mention in yourremarks, you've only got three
people you actually hire.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (05:58):
The council hires, yes.
Well, yes, the city council.
The seven of us.
And the mayor, yes.
The seven of us hire the citymanager, the city attorney, and
the municipal judge.
And we've hired...
one of each since I've beenmayor and we will be hiring
another city manager.
RR (06:18):
Anything that you would disclose at this point in time
or could disclose at this timethat you would be most
interested in the qualificationfor that new city manager?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (06:29):
I'm looking for someone who works as part of
a team.
We have a great team, and Iwant to find a team leader.
RR (06:42):
A team is critically important when you've got a
budget of $103 million, and howmany employees offhand?
Mayor Susan Wahlke (06:50):
A lot.
RR (06:51):
A lot.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (06:53):
I was giving a presentation a year ago at a
conference and talking about allthe grants and wonderful things
that our city was doing.
And someone from a small citysaid, and what's your staff?
I said, a lot more than yourcity.
Sorry.
And a lot less than Portland.
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Yes.
Oh, yeah.
And a lot less than Portland.
RR (07:17):
Meriwaki, again, congratulations on the next
year, if you will, stepping up.
I don't know how you do it andcontinue to do it, but thank you
for doing what you and the restof the council do as
volunteers.
Mayor Susan Wahlke (07:32):
Thank you.
I appreciate the communitysupport.
Son Paul (07:36):
Hello, this is Paul Robertson with Robertson
Environmental, and as a TAFgraduate, I'm just asking people
to renew, repair, and reinvestin our local schools.
The new bond measure is areinvestment opportunity that
will not raise your taxes andjust help to repair and update
our local schools for health,safety, security, and more.
So again, vote yes for schools.
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word for it.
Read the reviews.
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Another writes, La Roca hasbecome one of our favorites
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RR (08:20):
On the phone with us is Senator Dick Anderson, and
Senator Anderson, we'repre-recording this for later
play, but right now you're onI-5 headed towards Klamath
Falls.
Senator Dick Anderson (08:33):
That's exactly right, Roger.
I've got a whole wave of memes,community memes, listening
program tonight in KlamathFalls, Ways and Means being the
budget committee for the state.
So we're listening and actuallywe've been going around the
state having these listeningtours to hear about the needs of
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the community directly from thecommunity.
So for me, it makes a big
RR (09:00):
difference.
Is there been any surprises inthat so far, Dick, to you?
Needs, wants, desires,questions?
Senator Dick Anderson (09:09):
You know, good question.
Not any surprises.
I guess for me, it's themagnitude of the need.
And it really gets to, for me,livability, community livability
kind of issues, infrastructure,health care, concerns around
education.
And so it's not surprising.
(09:31):
It's just, boy, the volume ofasks is amazing.
RR (09:37):
Volume of asks is amazing.
You say like what?
Senator Dick Anderson (09:41):
Well, for dollars.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, most of these are dollarapps that their respective
communities can't afford thetotal cost of the infrastructure
or whatever the need is.
RR (09:55):
Now, you probably will not be able to finalize a budget
until the final revenue forecastcomes out, but that doesn't
come for another week or two,correct?
Senator Dick Anderson (10:08):
That's correct.
I think it's the 17th of Maythat last economic forecast is
given, and that will clarify howmuch money the state really has
available and can then do theallocation out.
Quite rightly, a lot of thepolicy bills that I've seen this
session have what's calledfiscal.
(10:29):
They have money attached tothem.
So they've just been piled upin what we call ways of means,
waiting for any kind of bill atany
RR (10:41):
time.
Before this piece runs on ourDouble R show, you will have...
carried a bill through theSenate for housing.
It's a major piece oflegislation you've been pushing,
correct?
Senator Dick Anderson (10:54):
Very much so.
You know, actually, I've gottwo major, well, three major
housing bills.
One of them has already made itthrough the Senate, and it's
over on the House side, and ithas to do with apprenticeship
for building inspections.
That's on the run, hoping toget through the House side.
(11:14):
There's two other bills.
One, when this airs, hopefullyhas cleared the Senate chamber.
It's 974.
It's a fast track for lawinside the urban growth boundary
to develop raw land intohousing-ready kind of
development.
Right now, that process takes agood two to three years.
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My bill cuts that down to oneyear, which should help.
The other bill, and final one,is actually a similar fast-track
bill for building permits.
It proposes and directs citiesand municipalities to generate
housing permits within 45 days.
So what we're trying to do isjust get this stuff ready to go,
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not with the bureaucracy ofgovernment, slow down our need
for housing.
It's getting fixed in the air.
RR (12:09):
There is a growing need for housing in all economic sectors,
is there not?
Senator Dick Anderson (12:16):
You're exactly right, Roger.
It's not just theincome-restricted affordable
housing.
It's the middle housing.
It's, my surprise, even marketrate housing.
And you can tell that,actually, with the building
permits that have been issued in2024 and now in 2025 are
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actually way below, you know,our previous running rate of
some 20,000 per bit.
Now they're like 15,000.
So, you know, it's not gettingany better is the problem.
RR (12:52):
Any other major pieces of legislation coming forth in the
next couple of weeks, Dick, thatyou'd like to expand upon?
Senator Dick Anderson (13:00):
You know, we're getting an onslaught from
the House.
So there'll be a lot of hotbills coming across, and they'll
filter to appropriate Senatecommittees, and then they'll go
to the floor or go off to whatthey haven't already been
waiting for the last 60 days ofthe legislature.
RR (13:22):
Oh, I lost you for a minute, Senator Anderson.
Oh,
Oh sorry must be in no man's land...
iOut there in the great beyond.
I think I'm probably going tolet you go because we seem to be
in that quagmire, if you will,of poor sound all of a sudden.
Senator Dick Anderson (13:43):
Sorry, Roger.
I couldn't.
Let's find another date.
RR (13:47):
We'll do it again and again and again because there is just
so much to talk about, and it isso critically important.
So drive careful to Cave Falls,Klamath Falls.
Listen well, and we'll talk toyou again when you get back on
the Oregon coast.
Senator Dick Anderson (14:06):
Okay.
Thank you, Roger
Senator Dick Anderson, back ina moment.
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RR (14:43):
On the phone is David Gomberg, state representative,
and he is on his way to KlamathFalls.
David, by the time this pieceairs, you'll be back in Lincoln
City and Salem, but on toK-Falls for what?
Rep David Gomberg (15:00):
Well, you know, I'm a member, I'm the vice
chair of the Ways and MeansCommittee, that's the budget
committee, and we have beentraveling around Oregon on a
series of hearings to determineto listen to Oregonians and find
out how they think we should bespending their tax money.
So we have been to Astoria,we've been to Grusham, we've
been to La Grande, we've been toWarm Springs, and this final
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program is going to be inKlamath Falls.
It's really interesting to goto these meetings and have
people lined up to talk abouttax expenditures.
And wherever we go in Oregon,I've observed that we're hearing
largely the same messages.
that we need to take care ofour schools, that we need to
provide health care and Medicaresupport through the Oregon
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Health Plan, that we need totake care of our roads, and that
local infrastructure is a bigdeal for small towns that can't
afford big projects.
So I expect that will be themessage we get tonight in
Klamath Falls as well.
RR (15:56):
By the time this piece airs, you will already be back.
What do you really expect tohear from the people of Eastern
Oregon?
Rep David Gomberg (16:05):
Well, again...
Okay.
Right.
Right.
which is exactly what we did.
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Now,
RR (16:39):
you got help, or Lincoln City got help from the state on
that project.
You, as a state, look to thefederal government for
assistance as well.
How is that looking to you?
Senator Dick Anderson (16:53):
Well, the last couple of years, we've had
a lot of money available to us,which is reflected in the
successes that we've broughthome.
This year, that's changing.
With federal grants beingcanceled or withdrawn, with
extra dollars not beingavailable.
I'll give you one example.
Two years ago, the legislativesession, by this stage, we had
forwarded more than 30 grantapplications to the federal
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government because when a stateagency asks for money from the
feds, it has to be approved bythe legislature.
Thirty proposals two years ago.
This legislative session sofar, we have only advanced eight
applications because thosegrants simply are not available.
RR (17:34):
Boy,
Rep David Gomberg (17:37):
that could begin to hurt.
So the belt tightening at thefederal level is having an
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effect here locally.
RR (18:00):
This morning, again, this piece is being recorded ahead of
time.
We had an opportunity to listento both you and Senator
Anderson on a Zoom call, if youwill, that covered not only
Lincoln, but some of the othercounties in the immediate area.
I asked you the question, haveyou heard of any programs...
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that are looking for fundingand they're offering ways to be
funded differently than what hasbeen in the past?
Senator Dick Anderson (18:33):
Well, you know, Roger, we can come up
with all kinds of creative waysto take your money.
And at the end of the day, it'sstill your money and it's
costing you something.
The challenge is to find thoseattractive taxes that somebody
else pays, like the lodging taxthat is collected by hotels,
motels, and vacation rentals.
Rep David Gomberg (18:55):
Right.
Senator Dick Anderson (18:58):
Right.
on electric vehicles, even atax on new cars.
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All of those are things thatOregonians pay, and I wanna make
sure all of our visitors arepaying as well.
Now, let me go back for amoment to the lodging tax,
because there's an interestingconversation evolving in Salem
about how we use those dollars.
Right now, the law says that70% of it has to be used for
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advertising or tourisminfrastructure, Cities are
asking if we can have a largerportion of that available for
the other things that touristsare costing us when they come to
town, for police or emergencysupport from the fire
department, for filling ourpotholes, for trash pickup.
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All of those are expenses thatwe are bearing when tourists
come to visit.
I very much appreciate thetourism industry, but we've got
to find a better way ofdispersing the dollars that they
leave behind so that localtaxpayers are not picking up all
the extra slack.
RR (20:27):
I think the League of Oregon Cities is supporting your
position.
The Hotel Association,obviously, is going to be in
opposition, correct?
Rep David Gomberg (20:38):
Well, that's the way it's playing out.
I mean, it's the way it'splayed out for years.
The Lodging Association says,no, spend the money on
advertising.
The cities are saying, give usa piece of it.
I think the conversation isrefined quite a bit so that this
session we're going to have avery interesting hearing,
probably in about two weeks, asthe cities ask for more of this
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money.
I'm suggesting that when wetalk about the 70% for tourism,
that we include public safety inthat.
We've got some extra money forthe police force we need, not
for the 10,000 people that livehere, but for the 50,000 people
that will be here on any summerweekend.
RR (21:17):
One final question, David, before we let you go, because we
want you to keep your hands onthe steering wheel as you drive
to Klamath Falls.
During the course of thissession, you wind up in the role
of Speaker of the House orrunning the Chamber of Sessions
numerous times.
Why is that?
Rep David Gomberg (21:39):
Well, I was honored to be elected by the
other members of the House to bewhat we call the Speaker Pro
Tem.
Speaker Pro Tem, I tell people,it's like being vice president.
Unknown (21:48):
Everybody knows who you are.
Nobody knows what you do.
Senator Dick Anderson (21:51):
But the fact of the matter is that I
have been asked to preside overthe House floor sessions almost
every day.
And it's interesting to be upat the front of the room and
managing the details of thefloor session as they evolve.
to tell you that we are notseeing a lot of conflict,
friction, or shenanigans.
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We're not seeing any indicationof walkouts.
We're not seeing delayingtactics like requiring bills be
read in their entirety.
We're not seeing major fightson the floor.
We may see them before we'redone, but for now everything is
running smoothly and I believeas it should be.
So there we are.
We're at the stage of sessionright now where All right,
RR (22:52):
David, we do appreciate you taking time to visit with us on
the way to Klamath Falls.
Look forward to your reportwhen you return.
Rep David Gomberg (23:02):
Looking forward to that as well.
Thank you so much, Roger.
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And our special thanks toChinook Winds Conceded Resort
celebrating big time in June,Paul, because they've got a
couple of huge names coming toChinook Winds.
Jay Leno, Arsenio Hall.
What a program.
Son Paul (23:51):
Right, and last week we weren't able to say who that
was, but they have releasedthose names.
Yeah, so when you get ArsenioHall as your backup comedian, I
think you've got a pretty bigbilling
RR (24:03):
there, yeah.
Jay Leno, Arsenio Hall, samebuilding at Chinook Winds Casino
Resort coming up in June.
If you haven't already boughtyour tickets, I would highly
encourage you to get up to thecasino and buy them because
they're going to be gone in aheartbeat.
Son Paul (24:18):
Yeah, this is a great 30th anniversary celebration for
Chinook Winds again.
And the date, June 20th?
June 20th.
June 20th.
Right
RR (24:26):
here in Lincoln City.
Backed up by fireworks, backedup by anniversary cake.
I mean, there's prizes thatthey'll have, drawings and on
and on and on.
We're going to have to haveHeather Hatton back here again
to talk about all of theactivities going to be taking
place at Chinook Winds for their30th, 30th anniversary.
Doesn't seem like they've beenhere all that long
Son Paul (24:48):
already.
30 years.
That's impressive.
30 years.
Big impact over the last threedecades and another three
decades in the future to belooking forward to.
Just think of all
RR (24:58):
of the jobs that they've created and the families they've
supported, the insurancesthey've paid for over the course
of 30 years.
So on behalf of Chinook WindsCasino Resort or for Chinook
Winds Casino Resort, I just haveto say thank you.
Yeah.
It's better at the beach.
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RR (25:32):
Well, it has been another interesting program to have a
state senator, a staterepresentative, and a mayor all
on the same program talkingabout what really affects you
and I every single day and willfor some time to come.
Son Paul (25:46):
Yeah, we appreciate all of them taking the time to
join us on the Double R Show andfitting them into their
schedules on the road and in thestudio It's really great.
So thank you.
RR (25:57):
On the road, it was probably some of the lines a little
difficult to understand becauseit just depended upon where they
were.
But they were on I-5 someplace.
Right.
That was confirmed.
That was confirmed.
Lincoln City Chamber ofCommerce Business Conference
coming up on June 27th.
Talk to Lori if you would liketo be one of the sponsors for
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that event.
Got a Grand Bazaar, a fullweekend of festivities at the
Lincoln City Chamber ofCommerce.
This is an interesting way toraise money.
What they do is acceptcontributions of costume
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jewelry, any jewelry, and thenthey sell it off with all the
money going to food share.
This is going to be onSaturday, May 10th, 10 to 1 and
2 to 4 for the half price saleat the Central Coastal Assembly
of God Church down in Newport.
So all the proceeds go tosupport food share of Lincoln
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County.
Tiger Tracks 5K run and a 10Krun going to be May 4th at
Wapiti Park.
And this is for the Taft HighBooster Club raising money.
And again, I'd like to remindeverybody of the spectacular
rubbing sales sponsored by St.
Peter the Fisherman LutheranChurch this Friday and Saturday,
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Friday 9 to 3, Saturday 9 to 3,half-price All day on Saturday.
A dollar a bag sale on Saturdayas well, two to three.
And lunch, they do a marvelousjob with lunch.
I like the lunch at St.
Peter the Fisherman LutheranChurch right across from the
Lincoln City Outlets.
And the lunch is served at 11until 2.
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You have another activity thatis coming up as well we need to
talk about.
Son Paul (27:49):
Yeah, we're launching the Cascade Head Biosphere Beach
Ambassador Program.
So this is going to be an eventthat runs for eight days, eight
low tide events throughout thesummer.
But the first one is Saturday,May 3rd.
And that low tide is rightaround noontime.
And what it is, is we're goingto have a gentleman down there
named Josh Havland.
And he's a local filmmaker,actually.
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He did the Chesera movie thatyou saw that we did last year.
Yes, right.
Cascade Head, Scenic ResearchAct area.
But he's going to be kind of asteward there, right down there
at 15th Street at the tidepools, Northwest 15th, where you
walk down, don't drive down tothe beach no longer drive down
let's never drive on the beachit's not what the beach is there
for i know it was part of ouryou know oregon law that got the
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beaches open to the public butlet's just uh keep them that way
anyway so but yeah so joshua'sgoing to be down there northwest
15th street saturday may 3rdand then again friday may 23rd
and the rest of the dates are onthe casket head website and
he's just going to be there toanswer questions uh share
information about the tide poolsand uh and and the biosphere in
general so come on down and seehim
RR (28:54):
that Now, you've also got a lot of children that have been
schooled, if you will, in theoutdoors.
Right,
Son Paul (29:01):
yeah.
So for the last month, we'vebeen hiking fifth and sixth
graders up and down a watershedtrail that was built there out
down at Westwind.
And it's a story about theraindrop to sea.
And so it follows this raindropas it rises out of the ocean,
lands onto the headlands, andworks its way down the
watershed.
And it's an educational programthat we have developed.
(29:23):
You can read about it.
And listen and see all thosevideos at CascadeHead.org, just
the education page yourself.
So feel free.
And then the last thing Iwanted to mention is we're also
launching another, well, it'sthe relaunch of a program.
So last year we started theCascade Head Biosphere
Explorance.
Right.
And so that was an event thatwill run again at Night Park.
(29:44):
And the first one is May 9th.
And so we have a new hostthere.
We had her on the air lastweek.
Yeah, Christina Pasca.
And so she'll be leading thoseBiosphere Explorance.
is there at Night Park.
And so join her any number ofdays, but starting Friday, May
9th at 10.30 a.m.
RR (30:02):
Anything else your side of the table?
No, I think we filled it up.
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