May 15, 2025 • 35 mins
Episode Highlights:
Three veterans of the Vietnam War, share their stories, 50 years on.
- Dr. Sam Scheinberg, Captain US Army
- Dr. Jay Cox, Lieutenant Commander and later Captain, US Navy
- Dick Wasson, Personnelman 2nd Class, US Navy
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It's going to be a big one, andwe've got three guests.
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RR (00:42):
It is a totally different format.
Three guests, as Paul said, Dr.
Sam Sheinberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Wasson.
What they have in common,Vietnam 50 years later.
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RR (01:41):
I have been looking forward to this interview for some time.
We have an opportunity to havethree gentlemen here that all
have one thing in common, andthat's Vietnam.
With us right now is we got Dr.
Sam Sheinberg, then Captain SamSheinberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, then LieutenantCommander Jay Cox.
I come out of the Navy as acaptain, which is the equivalent
(02:05):
to a colonel, right?
And Dick Wasson was like me,same rank, but you were a Navy
guy.
Dick Wasson (02:12):
Yes.
RR (02:14):
All right.
All of you served in Vietnam.
Sam, I'm going to start withyou.
When were you in Nam?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (02:19):
1968.
1968
RR (02:21):
is some of the heaviest times, was it not?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (02:26):
It was busy.
RR (02:27):
It was busy.
Whereabouts in Nam, Sam?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (02:30):
Well, I landed in Tan Son U, that's near
Vietnam.
Saigon.
And after about a week and ahalf, I was shipped up north to
Pleiku, spent maybe six monthsin Pleiku, and then transferred
down the road, Highway 19 toAnke.
That sits between Pleiku andQuignon on the coast, and spent
(02:53):
the rest of the time in Anke.
So that's a lucky thing for me,because it's, believe me, is...
If anyone has spent time in thesouthern part of Vietnam, it's
awfully hot.
And in the Central Highlands,it's very comfortable.
So I thought I was the luckiestguy in the world.
(03:16):
I went from passing a kidneystone because I was sweating so
much to being at a place whereat night you might need a jacket
depending on the time of theyear.
So...
I loved it in the highlands,these beautiful jungle
mountains.
RR (03:33):
The item that you just said, happiest guy in the world,
doesn't seem to hold as toVietnam, or does it?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (03:41):
It did for me.
RR (03:41):
Okay.
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (03:44):
People have different experiences, and my
particular one was, I wasalready in my training as a
general surgeon before I enteredthe service, so I had to I can
imagine if you're 18 years oldand then you're around this
horror, which is a way you mightdescribe it if you're not
(04:05):
accustomed to it.
But Jay, and I know myself,that's what we were around in
our training every day.
So seeing the blood and guts,so to speak, was an unusual
thing.
But it's a different kind ofthing.
presentation, but it's stillwhat you're trained to do.
So for us, I don't think it wasas much of a shock as it would
(04:28):
have been if I'd been aninnocent 18-year-old just
drafted and found myself in thatvery strange place.
RR (04:36):
Let's move over to Dr.
Jay Cox.
Same type of scenario?
Dr. Jay Cox (04:43):
Yes, I do.
Actually, I had finished myorthopedic training, so I knew I
was going to go to Vietnam.
In fact, I called my friend inthe detail office to see, could
I get one of the hospital shipsoff the coast?
He says, no.
He says, you're going with theMarines.
They need you, son.
So I went over there inFebruary of 1967, spent almost
(05:07):
13 months with the 3rd MarineDivision.
And I wasn't so lucky as Sam.
We were right there at sealevel.
So we got the monsoons in thewintertime, I mean the
summertime, and we got, it washot, and one or the other, the
temperature was never quiteright.
But it was interesting that wewere in an area where none of
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the folks wanted to be thereexcept maybe a few professional
soldiers.
All these kids were draftees,and there was so much angst
about the war back in the UnitedStates, but those kids didn't
want to be there either.
So I felt sorry for them, and Iunderstood what they were going
through.
And when they got back, wecalled baby killers and things
(05:54):
like that.
That was not fair.
It's one of those things wherethey were all good kids.
They were all drafted mostlyand didn't want to be there.
RR (06:06):
Did you go through that as well?
being called a baby killer orwhatever would
Dr. Jay Cox (06:12):
happen?
No, I was fortunate.
I have good friends.
People spit on them and so on.
But no, I never had a problem.
I usually countered was thefact that, listen, I was a
doctor and the fellows weregetting hurt and they needed me
there.
So it wasn't a philosophicalthing for me.
RR (06:30):
Dick Watson served in the Navy, but you were on
Dick Wasson (06:34):
land, correct?
I was on a service force ship.
And we would pick up fuel andammo in the Philippines, head
over to the southern tip ofVietnam in the Mekong Delta,
where we would anchor.
PBRs, the gunboats, would comeout and tie up to us.
We would give them a bag ofmail, which was the biggest
thing there.
And then we'd give them a boxof Washington Red Delicious
(06:54):
apples, a box of oranges.
And somebody would go down inthe reefer and get one of these
rounds that you see in the icecream shops.
Ice cream.
We had two flavors, vanillawith chocolate chips and purple.
Grape ice cream.
I'm not sure you got thecontract for grape ice cream.
Toss it down to them and say,grab your spoon, boys.
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There'll be a milkshake in 30minutes because the temperature
is like 90-some degrees.
And they don't have anyrefrigerations on those
gunboats.
And then we'd swing back out,go up the coastline.
We'd go to the Saigon River, dothe same thing.
We'd anchor there, do the samething.
Coast Guard patrol boats wouldcome out and tie up to us.
And then we'd work our way upthe coastline, refueling and
(07:35):
providing ammo.
to all the destroyers all theway up the coastline, up until
we ran out of fuel and out ofammo, and we'd end up in the
Tonkin Gulf with the aircraftcarriers.
And we'd give them JP-5 andAvgas for their jets.
We'd be empty.
We'd turn around and head backdown to the Philippines and just
do this circle, this loop.
RR (07:56):
Each loop took you how long, Dick?
Dick Wasson (07:58):
About three weeks, four weeks.
And I was over there threedifferent deployments of six.
Three?!! Why, why?
Because I was assigned to thatship and that ship was, I went
where the ship went.
Two and a half years of seaduty.
It was getting old, the thirdWestpac cruise.
And I knew when I was sittingout there at night on the deck
(08:20):
watching the fireworks incountry, we were to be off the
beach a mile or two and we wouldbe, I'd be watching interesting
fireworks, a lot of bigfireworks.
They'd shoot these shells up inthe air.
They'd float down real slowwith the parachutes.
So, cause you know, they had afirefight going on there or
being attacked at night.
So we figured, well, and thenwe'd once in a while see a big
(08:43):
orange ball.
They would, a real low flyingbleaking lie would hit, drop
this hot stuff.
And that was just not pretty.
But anyway, three, six monthstours.
And I finally was eligible forsure.
Did he?
And I went from, I came home toOregon for 36 days, did some
(09:06):
salmon fishing out of Depot Bayin Newport, jumped on the jet
and flew to Naval TrainingCenter, Orlando, Florida for my
last year and a half of surety.
Stepped off the jet in Orlandoand they had, it was called
Orlando Jetport.
It was a small one.
Humidity, like, whoo, just thesame thing I left in Vietnam.
So it was like, oh boy.
(09:26):
They said, get used to it.
And sure enough, everyafternoon, about three to four
days a week, you get theseAugust, September thunder
boomers that roll in off theGulf.
Anyway, it was, it was, it wasnice.
November, December, January,February, March, we actually got
to play golf.
I learned to play golf.
And that was about the extentof it.
My captain aboard the ship, Iwas his JL phone talker up on
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the bridge.
I was third class putty officerthen, the third Westpac.
And he was a, He was a navalaviator.
He was a pilot.
And he had to command a shiplike ours before he could
potentially get an aircraftcarrier.
Well, I was going to school inthe GI Bill in the Valley in
173.
There were three astronauts whowere landing on the other side
of Hawaii.
There was an aircraft carrierout there as well as a
(10:13):
destroyer.
It splashed down within twomiles of that carrier.
I don't know how they got thatso accurate coming down out of
space.
They picked him up, set him onthe flight.
the capsule and fight deck.
They crawled out, welcomingaboard the USS Ticonderoga as
newly named Admiral Edward E.
Boyd, Edward Ares Boyd,actually.
And here he was, Captain, andhe slewered them.
(10:34):
And the unfortunate part ofthat was he drank the same Agent
Orange that we all drink.
We're going to talk
RR (10:40):
about that down the road.
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (10:42):
Okay.
RR (10:43):
We're going to take a short break.
We'll be back with more.
We have Dr.
Sam Schoenberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Wasson withus all on today's Double R Show.
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Dr.
Sam Schoenberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Watson joinus on the Double Air Show.
Dr.
Sam, when you came back, didyou bring back...
Good memories, horriblememories.
What came back with Dr.
Scheinberg?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (12:41):
I didn't have any horrible memories.
I've just found it a veryinteresting place.
And I guess that was the mainthing.
I mean, I didn't, I looked likeJay.
Nobody spit on me or called meany names.
I just went into an orthopedictraining program what Jay had
already finished.
And I started a program and Iwas just focusing on You know,
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getting my life just one dayafter the other kind of thing.
I don't think I took very much.
I didn't take any politicsabout it.
I mean, I just found it was, atleast where I was, it was
almost like the Wild West.
I mean, it was bizarre.
RR (13:26):
Like the Wild West?
What do you mean by that?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (13:29):
Well, the rules were very lax.
When I was sent over, I wassent over in my winter wool
uniform, which is insane.
But they never gave me, andmaybe you had the same
situation, guys.
But so as soon as I arrivedthere, I got rid of it.
And all I had were Bermudashorts with big smiley faces and
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a shirt that matched.
And I had some sneakers withbig smiley faces.
So that was my uniform for along time.
I lost my hat about the secondday I was in the service.
So I have a big head, likeseven and three quarters.
I could never find a hat thatfit.
But I had to have one onoccasion if somebody who was a
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ranking officer was around.
So I would borrow a hat, and itwould just kind of sit perched
on top of my head.
And I always thought if theydidn't like my uniform, they
could just send me home, butthey were never going to do
that.
I wasn't worried about it.
And so...
I mean, there's so many things.
Lawless would be a way to sayit.
(14:35):
I mean, I don't know if youwant me to go into some of the
details.
RR (14:39):
Yes, if you can.
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (14:41):
Well, when I first arrived, when I was still
down in the South, I didn'tknow what to do.
So I'm wearing my Bermudashorts, and they gave me a steel
pot.
And so I went to a bar.
I don't drink, so I'm justsitting there kind of nursing a
Coke bottle.
where everyone around me isthrowing down martinis.
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And I said, well, you know, I'mnew.
I don't know what to do.
What do I do?
And they said, were youassigned a place where you're
bored or something?
I said, yeah, it's just acouple.
I haven't been in it, but I'veseen it.
It's a couple of cross-quonsethuts.
And they said, well, things arepretty hot now.
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And so if this siren goes off,that means red alert.
And then you just put yourlittle steel pot on your head,
and you go to your ward.
And I said, what do I do there?
They said, don't worry aboutit.
You'll figure that out.
So I'm there not too long, andsure enough, the siren goes off.
(15:46):
So I put my steel pot on myhead, and I kind of waddle over
to this ward.
And I get in there, and they'recrossed.
And there's a right in thecenter of that cross is a...
like just a table and a desk.
And so I just sit down.
There were some girly magazinessitting in the drawer.
(16:07):
So I just started reading itbecause I had no idea what to
do.
And in staggers a guy who was asergeant, master sergeant, and
he was in charge of one of theseQuonset huts.
And so he introduced himselfand I said, I'm Captain
Scheinberg.
I'm totally new here.
So you just tell me what to doand I'll do it because I have no
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clue.
He said, well, you don't haveto do much.
He said, I'm going to takecommand of the situation.
You just sit there and readyour magazine.
I said, perfect.
So I did.
And about five minutes later,another sergeant who's in charge
of the other Quonset hut fullof soldiers, and he comes in and
says, hey, who are you?
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And I told him the same thing.
He said, well, don't worryabout that, Captain Scheinberg.
I'll take command of thesituation.
Well, the other sergeant heardthat, and they started arguing
as to who, they were both threesheets to the wind, as to who
was going to take command of thesituation.
And that began one of the worstknock-down, drag-out fights I
ever saw in my life.
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These guys were kicking eachother, stomping, and soldiers
who weren't in traction wereable to do it.
They were all on the beds,throwing money, betting on their
particular sergeant.
And then at that point, I wrotemy first letter home to my
wife.
It was very short.
I said, honey, I'm not quitesure where I am, but I'm going
to love this place.
And the whole year followed inline with that kind of thing.
(17:33):
So...
RR (17:35):
You, Dr.
Cox, just put on a presentationto the Rotary Club.
I had the good fortune ofseeing and listening to that.
I was taken by a lot of thephotos that you had.
There's got to be some toughmemories for you looking at some
of those photos that you had.
Dr. Jay Cox (17:56):
Yes, and the idea was that I was in command of a
field hospital.
I was the orthopedic surgeon.
in the commanding officer of asmall field hospital, like a
mass unit, right up near theDMZ.
So we got the worst of theworst right off the battlefield.
And what we would try to do atthat facility, we only had two
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operating rooms, so if we werenot too busy, then we could use
both of them.
An anesthesiologist would givea patient a spinal for me, and
he would do a general for thegeneral surgeon.
But our job was to get thewounds cleaned up and then send
them through the evacuationchains.
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What happened to me when I cameback, I was assigned to the
Oakland Naval Hospital.
And so I was put in charge ofthe amputee and the wound care
ward.
So now I was on the other end.
I was on the receiving end ofall these kids.
And it was interesting to seethe psychological aspects and
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how they would come out.
back home and they were so gladto be home that they were
euphoric.
But then the depression wouldhit and they'd really sink into
bad depression.
And then as we got their woundscovered, as we got their stumps
closed, as we fit them withprosthesis, then you could see
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them change.
They'd go home and then prettysoon they'd bring back their
girlfriends and introduce you.
You could see they were goingto be okay.
So it was good to see the endresults and what great kids they
were.
RR (19:37):
We're going to take another break.
We'll be back in just a moment.
Our guests on the Double RShow, Dr.
Sam Shanberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Wasson.
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lot of people suffered from,Agent Oren.
Dick Wasson (20:31):
Yes, we were in brown water part of the time.
Brown water, Dean.
The runoff in the Mekong Delta,those rivers that dumped into
the Delta area, and we would bein the brown water for a day or
two at a time, and our shipsucked up water wherever we were
24-7, boiled it, and We caughtthe steam from that water and
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went into our holding tanks andour cooks cooked with it.
We showered in it and went intoour water coolers.
We drank it.
And not knowing the effects leddown the road, but as it turns
out, it was not good.
And we did the same thing inthe Saigon River.
And to this day, I worry aboutthe people where you think about
them occasionally that lived onthe rivers and in the Delta.
You know, I'm not sure verymany of them are still alive
(21:18):
because of the cancers that theyprobably got a hold of in that
RR (21:22):
Was it anything that affected you?
Dick Wasson (21:24):
As a matter of fact, yes.
A little bit of everything fromhead to toe.
Some mild cancers, but doctorshave cut that off, cut it out.
I've got type 2 diabetes.
I've got ischemia, the heartcondition that killed Captain
Boyd, our commanding officer.
And he was a pilot.
He was like 160 pounds,excellent shape as a pilot, but
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yeah.
Anyway, he died.
In fact, he died when he justpicked up three astronauts when
they landed.
And he was the commandingofficer of the aircraft carrier
Ticonderoga.
On the way back to Hawaii, hewas going to have his
commissioning ceremonies tobecome the admiral, get a star.
He dies of a heart attack.
Ischemia killed him.
But at least he knew he had hisaircraft carrier and he made an
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admiral.
And so, yeah, it affectspeople.
Two more of my officers, onewas our Both came aboard the
ship the same time I did asensigns, one out of Oregon
State, one out of Gonzaga.
One was our paymaster and onewas a deck officer, and he ended
up being our navigator.
And Captain Roy did not want torun aground in any of that
brown water because he wouldn'tget his aircraft carrier.
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Well, George Jacobson kept usokay, and we didn't have good
sonar back then.
But anyway, I'm watchingtelevision in the valley here,
and there's a fire in downtownPortland.
The cameras asked this fireofficer.
He turned and answered aquestion, and here was George
Jacobson.
I bowed and said, holy smokes,George is no longer in the Navy.
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As it turns out, the VA deniedthat we were ever in brown
water.
Well, I have pictures of thegunboats that died up to us in
the brown water.
They finally agreed that welooked at our ship's log, and
yes, you were.
So they accepted my type 2diabetes, my peripheral
neuropathy, ischemia, some otherissues.
And so anyway, a
RR (23:15):
lot.
Yeah.
Dr.
Sam, you not only were anorthopedic surgeon, but an
inventor.
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (23:23):
Not while I was in Vietnam.
RR (23:26):
Not while you were in Vietnam.
That was down the road, right?
Down the road, a couple yearsdown the road.
The education that you gotthrough the service and your
service duty did well for youfor the rest of your life,
right?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (23:43):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, truth be told, I wasn'ta guy who was humping through
the jungle, you know, fearingfor my life every day.
I wasn't a commander of ahospital of responsibility like
Jay.
I was basically just a, youknow, a kind of a free guy doing
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what I was trained to do.
And I had to keep track.
I knew I was going to enter aAnother training program, so I
had to keep track of thesurgeries I did.
So there were slightly over 500surgeries that year.
And even though I was trainedlike Jay to do a lot of things,
see a lot of things, they toldme that they were going to teach
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me how to do thingsdifferently.
I never debrided war wounds.
It's a whole differentballgame.
You don't necessarily see awound that's full of mud and
dirt and fish scales and allkinds of debris.
You just don't.
So they had to teach me how todo that.
When I showed up, when I wasmore or less drafted, I thought
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I wanted to learn something new.
So I put down that I was afully trained orthopedic
surgeon.
But when I showed up at FortCampbell, I felt like I had to
fess up because I had noorthopedic training other than a
rotation as a surgery resident.
So I told them I wasn'tactually a fully trained
orthopedist.
They said, that's okay.
(25:11):
We get residents here all thetime.
That's okay.
I said, well, actually, I'm notan orthopedic resident.
So the commander there lookedat me and he said, are you a
doctor?
I said, well, I've got thatcovered.
So he said, well, we're goingto have to teach you.
And they did do that.
A lot of things that youwouldn't know even if you were a
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training surgeon because youjust don't see these
high-velocity missile wounds,explosions, IEDs, things like
that.
And so that was very useful tome.
And after I spent a year doingthat, starting a residency
training program, I never sawanything on the streets of
Louisville, Kentucky.
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where someone was just blastedto bits and had lost three out
of their four extremities.
I know Jay knows what I mean bythat.
You'd see a guy there withmissing three of his
extremities, both his eyes.
And you'd have someone come outand have a little ceremony and
pin a little purple heart on hischest.
And I thought, boy, that's notmuch of a trade for that.
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And like Jay, he got to seethat.
In result, he got to follow itthrough.
I didn't get to follow itthrough very much, maybe a few
months after I left Vietnam.
RR (26:31):
Gentlemen, I appreciate the fact that you were here today,
and I thank you for yourservice.
I know it is little to saythank you for your service, but
as a vet myself, I know whatthat means.
That does mean something toyou, does it not?
Dr. Jay Cox (26:48):
Yes, it does.
RR (26:50):
Thank you for your service, Dr.
Sam Scheinberg.
Captain Sam Scheinberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, Lieutenant Commander,and then Captain, Naval Captain.
I always got to go back tothat.
Both my brothers were in theNavy.
I was the wayward child whowent in the Army.
So when I say Captain, I'mthinking different rank than
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what you come out as.
You would have been a fullcolonel in the
Dr. Jay Cox (27:22):
Army.
Retired,
RR (27:24):
yes.
And Dick Watson, same rank as Iwas in the service.
Again, gentlemen,
La Roca (27:31):
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We at La Roca are proud of ourfood, but don't take our word
for it.
Read the reviews.
One person wrote, the servicewas friendly and efficient.
Another writes, La Roca hasbecome one of our favorites
because it's authentic Mexicanfood.
RR (27:50):
If you're looking for great early garden fresh produce, it's
Kenny's IGA in the Bay Area ofLincoln City.
Four generations of Morganscaring for your every grocery
need.
All your favorite beverages, afull deli, meat, produce, and of
course, groceries.
And again, our special thanksto Dr.
Sam Scheinberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Wasson forjoining us on this very special
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50 years ago, the conclusion,the end, if you will, of the
Vietnam War for Americaninvolvement.
It is just a staggering eventwhat these guys went through,
what they experienced, and whata number of vets continue to.
So if you see a vet, thank avet.
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Also, coming up on SaturdaySaturday night, Saturday night,
the 17th, the Pacific CoastSingers Spring Concert.
This will be at 7 o'clock atthe Congregational Church in
Lincoln City.
It is a lot of secular music.
It is some spiritual music,good music, good entertainment,
and it's free of charge.
But again, if you would be soinclined, make a contribution to
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the Food Bank with all cannedfood and cash donations going to
that very needed organizationhere in Let's see what's
happening on your side of thetable, Paul, with all of the
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children in the community.
Son Paul (29:20):
Yeah, well, we've been continuing our Exploring
Nature's Families work thatwe've been doing with the first
and second graders of thecommunity as far as north as
Nestucca Valley School all theway down to, well, we worked
with Sam Case even in the lastyear in Newport.
So throughout the county andbeyond, teaching kids about
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nature and environment andsustainability and a whole bunch
of things through all sorts ofprograms with Cascade Head Bias
for Collaborative.
And then on the community sideof our work we have again the
Explorances that restarted therewith Christina Pasca we had
interviewed here a while backand then Josh Havlin started the
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Biosphere Beach Ambassador sogo to cascadehead.org to see all
of those dates and times andthen as we speak now we're just
getting wind of our estuarytours that are going to be
coming soon so we're going tohave some in June in September
and in October so look for thaton the website as well and And
those will be about $20, Ithink, a person.
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It gives you a chance to go upand down the estuary.
You did that last year,
RR (30:27):
I think.
Yes, I did.
It's the first time I've beenon that water.
Son Paul (30:31):
Well, it's not surprising.
It's not easy to get on theSand River if you don't have a
boat.
And so these are walk-onpontoons.
It's courtesy of Westwindthere.
They've got those pontoonboats.
And
RR (30:43):
the information was just fun.
Son Paul (30:45):
Well, it's good to hear.
Yeah, it's a lot of stuff thata lot of people have prepared.
And we have the estuary.
tours and then in the fallwe'll have the Welcoming the
Salmon Home which will have thatestuary tour component as well.
RR (30:55):
A moment ago you mentioned kids and tonight is a special
night for supporting children.
Help send kids to BB Day Camp.
It's a spaghetti dinnertonight.
Starts at 5 o'clock with a camptour, 6 o'clock for dinner and
all of the money, the proceedsall go to sending kids to camp
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this summer from our localcommunity.
Critically important Speakingof kids, we are endorsing and
talking about the Lincoln CountySchool District 2025 proposed
bond measure.
No new taxes.
Son Paul (31:33):
Right.
It's a renewal.
And so 50 years, I think 51years is the average age of
those buildings.
And that's a while.
You think your house may in 50years needed some help?
Might need a new roof, youknow, and the like.
A shingle here or there.
Yes.
Yeah.
So we're really proponents ofthis, obviously, on the Double R
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Show.
Having you had, what, four kidsgo through
RR (31:57):
this school system?
Absolutely.
I started with our daughter.
When we moved here, she was afirst grader.
So that tells you we won't talkabout how old Trish is.
That kind of gives away how oldyour mother is.
Save the date for the LincolnCity Chamber of Commerce
Business Conference coming up onJune 27th.
Workforce Solutions in the Everchanging economy.
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I'd also like to make mentionof Lincoln City activities.
On Tuesday, May 20th at 6o'clock, we have the Planning
Commission meeting.
On Wednesday, May 21, 1o'clock, Parks and Rec Board.
On Thursday, May 22, 3 o'clock,the Community Sustainability
Committee.
And then the City Councilmeeting, May 26, 6 o'clock, in
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Council Chambers.
And again, our special thanksto our veterans that joined us
today.
And for all veterans, we have ahomemade soup and sandwich
luncheon at the Lincoln CityElks Lodge.
This takes place twice a week,the second and fourth Wednesdays
of each month, noon until two.
That's at the Elks Lodge,almost next door to Bi-Mart.
(33:05):
Yeah, just up at Elk andBi-Mart, yeah.
And Small Business Developmentis setting up an activity for
nonprofits.
Yes.
And you're going to beattending
Son Paul (33:17):
this.
Yeah, absolutely.
I thought this was a greatoffering for anybody that's
involved with a nonprofit, maybeeven interested.
You know, if they've got space,I'm sure they'd provide a seat
for you as well if you're justkind of on the outside looking
in.
But contact the college and getregistered for these coming now
May 28th.
I
RR (33:36):
believe so.
It starts?
Yes, May 28th.
the Foundations of NonprofitSuccess featuring Lucinda
Taylor.
Yeah, and then they run monthlythrough
Son Paul (33:45):
January.
Yeah, so it's similar to theirbusiness management program, but
tailored for nonprofits.
RR (33:52):
And last but not least, the Willamette Valley Cancer
Foundation is going to holdtheir Coastal Classic Golf
Tournament and all of theproceeds go to help people
primarily of North LincolnCounty that are suffering from
cancer, even though it says thisis Willamette Valley
Foundation.
There's a lot of money.
Talk to Nancy Oxnold.
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A lot of money is raised thatgoes to help families in need
right here in and around LincolnCity.
Son Paul (34:21):
And that's at Chinook Winds Golf Course, right?
RR (34:23):
That's at Chinook Winds Golf Resort where golfing is better
at the beach.
Son Paul (34:28):
There you go, always.
RR (34:29):
Anything else to your side of the table?
No, we're clear from here.
So that will do to the doingson a double hour show.
And again, my special thanks toour guests that were with us
Have a happy day.
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RR (00:30):
And welcome to the Double R Show.
This is a program that I'vebeen looking forward to for a
long time, Paul.
Son Paul (00:35):
You have indeed.
It's going to be a big one, andwe've got three guests.
It's kind of an unusual formatfor us as well.
RR (00:42):
It is a totally different format.
Three guests, as Paul said, Dr.
Sam Sheinberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Wasson.
What they have in common,Vietnam 50 years later.
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RR (01:41):
I have been looking forward to this interview for some time.
We have an opportunity to havethree gentlemen here that all
have one thing in common, andthat's Vietnam.
With us right now is we got Dr.
Sam Sheinberg, then Captain SamSheinberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, then LieutenantCommander Jay Cox.
I come out of the Navy as acaptain, which is the equivalent
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to a colonel, right?
And Dick Wasson was like me,same rank, but you were a Navy
guy.
Dick Wasson (02:12):
Yes.
RR (02:14):
All right.
All of you served in Vietnam.
Sam, I'm going to start withyou.
When were you in Nam?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (02:19):
1968.
1968
RR (02:21):
is some of the heaviest times, was it not?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (02:26):
It was busy.
RR (02:27):
It was busy.
Whereabouts in Nam, Sam?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (02:30):
Well, I landed in Tan Son U, that's near
Vietnam.
Saigon.
And after about a week and ahalf, I was shipped up north to
Pleiku, spent maybe six monthsin Pleiku, and then transferred
down the road, Highway 19 toAnke.
That sits between Pleiku andQuignon on the coast, and spent
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the rest of the time in Anke.
So that's a lucky thing for me,because it's, believe me, is...
If anyone has spent time in thesouthern part of Vietnam, it's
awfully hot.
And in the Central Highlands,it's very comfortable.
So I thought I was the luckiestguy in the world.
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I went from passing a kidneystone because I was sweating so
much to being at a place whereat night you might need a jacket
depending on the time of theyear.
So...
I loved it in the highlands,these beautiful jungle
mountains.
RR (03:33):
The item that you just said, happiest guy in the world,
doesn't seem to hold as toVietnam, or does it?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (03:41):
It did for me.
RR (03:41):
Okay.
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (03:44):
People have different experiences, and my
particular one was, I wasalready in my training as a
general surgeon before I enteredthe service, so I had to I can
imagine if you're 18 years oldand then you're around this
horror, which is a way you mightdescribe it if you're not
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accustomed to it.
But Jay, and I know myself,that's what we were around in
our training every day.
So seeing the blood and guts,so to speak, was an unusual
thing.
But it's a different kind ofthing.
presentation, but it's stillwhat you're trained to do.
So for us, I don't think it wasas much of a shock as it would
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have been if I'd been aninnocent 18-year-old just
drafted and found myself in thatvery strange place.
RR (04:36):
Let's move over to Dr.
Jay Cox.
Same type of scenario?
Dr. Jay Cox (04:43):
Yes, I do.
Actually, I had finished myorthopedic training, so I knew I
was going to go to Vietnam.
In fact, I called my friend inthe detail office to see, could
I get one of the hospital shipsoff the coast?
He says, no.
He says, you're going with theMarines.
They need you, son.
So I went over there inFebruary of 1967, spent almost
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13 months with the 3rd MarineDivision.
And I wasn't so lucky as Sam.
We were right there at sealevel.
So we got the monsoons in thewintertime, I mean the
summertime, and we got, it washot, and one or the other, the
temperature was never quiteright.
But it was interesting that wewere in an area where none of
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the folks wanted to be thereexcept maybe a few professional
soldiers.
All these kids were draftees,and there was so much angst
about the war back in the UnitedStates, but those kids didn't
want to be there either.
So I felt sorry for them, and Iunderstood what they were going
through.
And when they got back, wecalled baby killers and things
(05:54):
like that.
That was not fair.
It's one of those things wherethey were all good kids.
They were all drafted mostlyand didn't want to be there.
RR (06:06):
Did you go through that as well?
being called a baby killer orwhatever would
Dr. Jay Cox (06:12):
happen?
No, I was fortunate.
I have good friends.
People spit on them and so on.
But no, I never had a problem.
I usually countered was thefact that, listen, I was a
doctor and the fellows weregetting hurt and they needed me
there.
So it wasn't a philosophicalthing for me.
RR (06:30):
Dick Watson served in the Navy, but you were on
Dick Wasson (06:34):
land, correct?
I was on a service force ship.
And we would pick up fuel andammo in the Philippines, head
over to the southern tip ofVietnam in the Mekong Delta,
where we would anchor.
PBRs, the gunboats, would comeout and tie up to us.
We would give them a bag ofmail, which was the biggest
thing there.
And then we'd give them a boxof Washington Red Delicious
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apples, a box of oranges.
And somebody would go down inthe reefer and get one of these
rounds that you see in the icecream shops.
Ice cream.
We had two flavors, vanillawith chocolate chips and purple.
Grape ice cream.
I'm not sure you got thecontract for grape ice cream.
Toss it down to them and say,grab your spoon, boys.
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There'll be a milkshake in 30minutes because the temperature
is like 90-some degrees.
And they don't have anyrefrigerations on those
gunboats.
And then we'd swing back out,go up the coastline.
We'd go to the Saigon River, dothe same thing.
We'd anchor there, do the samething.
Coast Guard patrol boats wouldcome out and tie up to us.
And then we'd work our way upthe coastline, refueling and
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providing ammo.
to all the destroyers all theway up the coastline, up until
we ran out of fuel and out ofammo, and we'd end up in the
Tonkin Gulf with the aircraftcarriers.
And we'd give them JP-5 andAvgas for their jets.
We'd be empty.
We'd turn around and head backdown to the Philippines and just
do this circle, this loop.
RR (07:56):
Each loop took you how long, Dick?
Dick Wasson (07:58):
About three weeks, four weeks.
And I was over there threedifferent deployments of six.
Three?!! Why, why?
Because I was assigned to thatship and that ship was, I went
where the ship went.
Two and a half years of seaduty.
It was getting old, the thirdWestpac cruise.
And I knew when I was sittingout there at night on the deck
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watching the fireworks incountry, we were to be off the
beach a mile or two and we wouldbe, I'd be watching interesting
fireworks, a lot of bigfireworks.
They'd shoot these shells up inthe air.
They'd float down real slowwith the parachutes.
So, cause you know, they had afirefight going on there or
being attacked at night.
So we figured, well, and thenwe'd once in a while see a big
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orange ball.
They would, a real low flyingbleaking lie would hit, drop
this hot stuff.
And that was just not pretty.
But anyway, three, six monthstours.
And I finally was eligible forsure.
Did he?
And I went from, I came home toOregon for 36 days, did some
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salmon fishing out of Depot Bayin Newport, jumped on the jet
and flew to Naval TrainingCenter, Orlando, Florida for my
last year and a half of surety.
Stepped off the jet in Orlandoand they had, it was called
Orlando Jetport.
It was a small one.
Humidity, like, whoo, just thesame thing I left in Vietnam.
So it was like, oh boy.
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They said, get used to it.
And sure enough, everyafternoon, about three to four
days a week, you get theseAugust, September thunder
boomers that roll in off theGulf.
Anyway, it was, it was, it wasnice.
November, December, January,February, March, we actually got
to play golf.
I learned to play golf.
And that was about the extentof it.
My captain aboard the ship, Iwas his JL phone talker up on
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the bridge.
I was third class putty officerthen, the third Westpac.
And he was a, He was a navalaviator.
He was a pilot.
And he had to command a shiplike ours before he could
potentially get an aircraftcarrier.
Well, I was going to school inthe GI Bill in the Valley in
173.
There were three astronauts whowere landing on the other side
of Hawaii.
There was an aircraft carrierout there as well as a
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destroyer.
It splashed down within twomiles of that carrier.
I don't know how they got thatso accurate coming down out of
space.
They picked him up, set him onthe flight.
the capsule and fight deck.
They crawled out, welcomingaboard the USS Ticonderoga as
newly named Admiral Edward E.
Boyd, Edward Ares Boyd,actually.
And here he was, Captain, andhe slewered them.
(10:34):
And the unfortunate part ofthat was he drank the same Agent
Orange that we all drink.
We're going to talk
RR (10:40):
about that down the road.
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (10:42):
Okay.
RR (10:43):
We're going to take a short break.
We'll be back with more.
We have Dr.
Sam Schoenberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Wasson withus all on today's Double R Show.
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RR (11:10):
And a special reminder that Chinook Winds Casino Resort is
going to be hosting the LincolnCity Chamber of Commerce Noon
Luncheon.
That's coming up on Tuesday.
Tuesday in the ConventionCenter at Chinook Winds.
Heather Hatton will be theguest speaker.
And we know Heather's going tobe talking about an important
event for the casino.
Son Paul (11:28):
I
RR (11:28):
think
Son Paul (11:29):
30 years might be
RR (11:29):
on
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her mind, right?
RR (11:30):
I
Son Paul (11:31):
think 30 years may well be on her mind.
30 years of...
Fun, gaming, food.
Yes, at a minimum.
Entertainment, community...
Connectivity, just a wholebunch of things, obviously.
And
RR (11:42):
the money they've raised for the community is just
absolutely staggering.
Son Paul (11:46):
Right, yeah.
The Siletz CharitableContribution Fund is just an
enormous giving foundation, in asense, for them.
And then, of course, justsupporting all the employees
over the years.
So, huge economic engine forour community.
RR (11:59):
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Dr.
Sam Schoenberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Watson joinus on the Double Air Show.
Dr.
Sam, when you came back, didyou bring back...
Good memories, horriblememories.
What came back with Dr.
Scheinberg?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (12:41):
I didn't have any horrible memories.
I've just found it a veryinteresting place.
And I guess that was the mainthing.
I mean, I didn't, I looked likeJay.
Nobody spit on me or called meany names.
I just went into an orthopedictraining program what Jay had
already finished.
And I started a program and Iwas just focusing on You know,
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getting my life just one dayafter the other kind of thing.
I don't think I took very much.
I didn't take any politicsabout it.
I mean, I just found it was, atleast where I was, it was
almost like the Wild West.
I mean, it was bizarre.
RR (13:26):
Like the Wild West?
What do you mean by that?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (13:29):
Well, the rules were very lax.
When I was sent over, I wassent over in my winter wool
uniform, which is insane.
But they never gave me, andmaybe you had the same
situation, guys.
But so as soon as I arrivedthere, I got rid of it.
And all I had were Bermudashorts with big smiley faces and
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a shirt that matched.
And I had some sneakers withbig smiley faces.
So that was my uniform for along time.
I lost my hat about the secondday I was in the service.
So I have a big head, likeseven and three quarters.
I could never find a hat thatfit.
But I had to have one onoccasion if somebody who was a
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ranking officer was around.
So I would borrow a hat, and itwould just kind of sit perched
on top of my head.
And I always thought if theydidn't like my uniform, they
could just send me home, butthey were never going to do
that.
I wasn't worried about it.
And so...
I mean, there's so many things.
Lawless would be a way to sayit.
(14:35):
I mean, I don't know if youwant me to go into some of the
details.
RR (14:39):
Yes, if you can.
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (14:41):
Well, when I first arrived, when I was still
down in the South, I didn'tknow what to do.
So I'm wearing my Bermudashorts, and they gave me a steel
pot.
And so I went to a bar.
I don't drink, so I'm justsitting there kind of nursing a
Coke bottle.
where everyone around me isthrowing down martinis.
(15:02):
And I said, well, you know, I'mnew.
I don't know what to do.
What do I do?
And they said, were youassigned a place where you're
bored or something?
I said, yeah, it's just acouple.
I haven't been in it, but I'veseen it.
It's a couple of cross-quonsethuts.
And they said, well, things arepretty hot now.
(15:24):
And so if this siren goes off,that means red alert.
And then you just put yourlittle steel pot on your head,
and you go to your ward.
And I said, what do I do there?
They said, don't worry aboutit.
You'll figure that out.
So I'm there not too long, andsure enough, the siren goes off.
(15:46):
So I put my steel pot on myhead, and I kind of waddle over
to this ward.
And I get in there, and they'recrossed.
And there's a right in thecenter of that cross is a...
like just a table and a desk.
And so I just sit down.
There were some girly magazinessitting in the drawer.
(16:07):
So I just started reading itbecause I had no idea what to
do.
And in staggers a guy who was asergeant, master sergeant, and
he was in charge of one of theseQuonset huts.
And so he introduced himselfand I said, I'm Captain
Scheinberg.
I'm totally new here.
So you just tell me what to doand I'll do it because I have no
(16:28):
clue.
He said, well, you don't haveto do much.
He said, I'm going to takecommand of the situation.
You just sit there and readyour magazine.
I said, perfect.
So I did.
And about five minutes later,another sergeant who's in charge
of the other Quonset hut fullof soldiers, and he comes in and
says, hey, who are you?
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And I told him the same thing.
He said, well, don't worryabout that, Captain Scheinberg.
I'll take command of thesituation.
Well, the other sergeant heardthat, and they started arguing
as to who, they were both threesheets to the wind, as to who
was going to take command of thesituation.
And that began one of the worstknock-down, drag-out fights I
ever saw in my life.
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These guys were kicking eachother, stomping, and soldiers
who weren't in traction wereable to do it.
They were all on the beds,throwing money, betting on their
particular sergeant.
And then at that point, I wrotemy first letter home to my
wife.
It was very short.
I said, honey, I'm not quitesure where I am, but I'm going
to love this place.
And the whole year followed inline with that kind of thing.
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So...
RR (17:35):
You, Dr.
Cox, just put on a presentationto the Rotary Club.
I had the good fortune ofseeing and listening to that.
I was taken by a lot of thephotos that you had.
There's got to be some toughmemories for you looking at some
of those photos that you had.
Dr. Jay Cox (17:56):
Yes, and the idea was that I was in command of a
field hospital.
I was the orthopedic surgeon.
in the commanding officer of asmall field hospital, like a
mass unit, right up near theDMZ.
So we got the worst of theworst right off the battlefield.
And what we would try to do atthat facility, we only had two
(18:19):
operating rooms, so if we werenot too busy, then we could use
both of them.
An anesthesiologist would givea patient a spinal for me, and
he would do a general for thegeneral surgeon.
But our job was to get thewounds cleaned up and then send
them through the evacuationchains.
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What happened to me when I cameback, I was assigned to the
Oakland Naval Hospital.
And so I was put in charge ofthe amputee and the wound care
ward.
So now I was on the other end.
I was on the receiving end ofall these kids.
And it was interesting to seethe psychological aspects and
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how they would come out.
back home and they were so gladto be home that they were
euphoric.
But then the depression wouldhit and they'd really sink into
bad depression.
And then as we got their woundscovered, as we got their stumps
closed, as we fit them withprosthesis, then you could see
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them change.
They'd go home and then prettysoon they'd bring back their
girlfriends and introduce you.
You could see they were goingto be okay.
So it was good to see the endresults and what great kids they
were.
RR (19:37):
We're going to take another break.
We'll be back in just a moment.
Our guests on the Double RShow, Dr.
Sam Shanberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Wasson.
More in a moment.
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Coming back from Vietnam, youdid mention a key word that a
lot of people suffered from,Agent Oren.
Dick Wasson (20:31):
Yes, we were in brown water part of the time.
Brown water, Dean.
The runoff in the Mekong Delta,those rivers that dumped into
the Delta area, and we would bein the brown water for a day or
two at a time, and our shipsucked up water wherever we were
24-7, boiled it, and We caughtthe steam from that water and
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went into our holding tanks andour cooks cooked with it.
We showered in it and went intoour water coolers.
We drank it.
And not knowing the effects leddown the road, but as it turns
out, it was not good.
And we did the same thing inthe Saigon River.
And to this day, I worry aboutthe people where you think about
them occasionally that lived onthe rivers and in the Delta.
You know, I'm not sure verymany of them are still alive
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because of the cancers that theyprobably got a hold of in that
RR (21:22):
Was it anything that affected you?
Dick Wasson (21:24):
As a matter of fact, yes.
A little bit of everything fromhead to toe.
Some mild cancers, but doctorshave cut that off, cut it out.
I've got type 2 diabetes.
I've got ischemia, the heartcondition that killed Captain
Boyd, our commanding officer.
And he was a pilot.
He was like 160 pounds,excellent shape as a pilot, but
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yeah.
Anyway, he died.
In fact, he died when he justpicked up three astronauts when
they landed.
And he was the commandingofficer of the aircraft carrier
Ticonderoga.
On the way back to Hawaii, hewas going to have his
commissioning ceremonies tobecome the admiral, get a star.
He dies of a heart attack.
Ischemia killed him.
But at least he knew he had hisaircraft carrier and he made an
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admiral.
And so, yeah, it affectspeople.
Two more of my officers, onewas our Both came aboard the
ship the same time I did asensigns, one out of Oregon
State, one out of Gonzaga.
One was our paymaster and onewas a deck officer, and he ended
up being our navigator.
And Captain Roy did not want torun aground in any of that
brown water because he wouldn'tget his aircraft carrier.
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Well, George Jacobson kept usokay, and we didn't have good
sonar back then.
But anyway, I'm watchingtelevision in the valley here,
and there's a fire in downtownPortland.
The cameras asked this fireofficer.
He turned and answered aquestion, and here was George
Jacobson.
I bowed and said, holy smokes,George is no longer in the Navy.
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As it turns out, the VA deniedthat we were ever in brown
water.
Well, I have pictures of thegunboats that died up to us in
the brown water.
They finally agreed that welooked at our ship's log, and
yes, you were.
So they accepted my type 2diabetes, my peripheral
neuropathy, ischemia, some otherissues.
And so anyway, a
RR (23:15):
lot.
Yeah.
Dr.
Sam, you not only were anorthopedic surgeon, but an
inventor.
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (23:23):
Not while I was in Vietnam.
RR (23:26):
Not while you were in Vietnam.
That was down the road, right?
Down the road, a couple yearsdown the road.
The education that you gotthrough the service and your
service duty did well for youfor the rest of your life,
right?
Dr. Sam Scheinberg (23:43):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, truth be told, I wasn'ta guy who was humping through
the jungle, you know, fearingfor my life every day.
I wasn't a commander of ahospital of responsibility like
Jay.
I was basically just a, youknow, a kind of a free guy doing
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what I was trained to do.
And I had to keep track.
I knew I was going to enter aAnother training program, so I
had to keep track of thesurgeries I did.
So there were slightly over 500surgeries that year.
And even though I was trainedlike Jay to do a lot of things,
see a lot of things, they toldme that they were going to teach
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me how to do thingsdifferently.
I never debrided war wounds.
It's a whole differentballgame.
You don't necessarily see awound that's full of mud and
dirt and fish scales and allkinds of debris.
You just don't.
So they had to teach me how todo that.
When I showed up, when I wasmore or less drafted, I thought
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I wanted to learn something new.
So I put down that I was afully trained orthopedic
surgeon.
But when I showed up at FortCampbell, I felt like I had to
fess up because I had noorthopedic training other than a
rotation as a surgery resident.
So I told them I wasn'tactually a fully trained
orthopedist.
They said, that's okay.
(25:11):
We get residents here all thetime.
That's okay.
I said, well, actually, I'm notan orthopedic resident.
So the commander there lookedat me and he said, are you a
doctor?
I said, well, I've got thatcovered.
So he said, well, we're goingto have to teach you.
And they did do that.
A lot of things that youwouldn't know even if you were a
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training surgeon because youjust don't see these
high-velocity missile wounds,explosions, IEDs, things like
that.
And so that was very useful tome.
And after I spent a year doingthat, starting a residency
training program, I never sawanything on the streets of
Louisville, Kentucky.
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where someone was just blastedto bits and had lost three out
of their four extremities.
I know Jay knows what I mean bythat.
You'd see a guy there withmissing three of his
extremities, both his eyes.
And you'd have someone come outand have a little ceremony and
pin a little purple heart on hischest.
And I thought, boy, that's notmuch of a trade for that.
(26:18):
And like Jay, he got to seethat.
In result, he got to follow itthrough.
I didn't get to follow itthrough very much, maybe a few
months after I left Vietnam.
RR (26:31):
Gentlemen, I appreciate the fact that you were here today,
and I thank you for yourservice.
I know it is little to saythank you for your service, but
as a vet myself, I know whatthat means.
That does mean something toyou, does it not?
Dr. Jay Cox (26:48):
Yes, it does.
RR (26:50):
Thank you for your service, Dr.
Sam Scheinberg.
Captain Sam Scheinberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, Lieutenant Commander,and then Captain, Naval Captain.
I always got to go back tothat.
Both my brothers were in theNavy.
I was the wayward child whowent in the Army.
So when I say Captain, I'mthinking different rank than
(27:16):
what you come out as.
You would have been a fullcolonel in the
Dr. Jay Cox (27:22):
Army.
Retired,
RR (27:24):
yes.
And Dick Watson, same rank as Iwas in the service.
Again, gentlemen,
La Roca (27:31):
thank you for your service.
We at La Roca are proud of ourfood, but don't take our word
for it.
Read the reviews.
One person wrote, the servicewas friendly and efficient.
Another writes, La Roca hasbecome one of our favorites
because it's authentic Mexicanfood.
RR (27:50):
If you're looking for great early garden fresh produce, it's
Kenny's IGA in the Bay Area ofLincoln City.
Four generations of Morganscaring for your every grocery
need.
All your favorite beverages, afull deli, meat, produce, and of
course, groceries.
And again, our special thanksto Dr.
Sam Scheinberg, Dr.
Jay Cox, and Dick Wasson forjoining us on this very special
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50 years ago, the conclusion,the end, if you will, of the
Vietnam War for Americaninvolvement.
It is just a staggering eventwhat these guys went through,
what they experienced, and whata number of vets continue to.
So if you see a vet, thank avet.
(28:33):
Also, coming up on SaturdaySaturday night, Saturday night,
the 17th, the Pacific CoastSingers Spring Concert.
This will be at 7 o'clock atthe Congregational Church in
Lincoln City.
It is a lot of secular music.
It is some spiritual music,good music, good entertainment,
and it's free of charge.
But again, if you would be soinclined, make a contribution to
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the Food Bank with all cannedfood and cash donations going to
that very needed organizationhere in Let's see what's
happening on your side of thetable, Paul, with all of the
(29:18):
children in the community.
Son Paul (29:20):
Yeah, well, we've been continuing our Exploring
Nature's Families work thatwe've been doing with the first
and second graders of thecommunity as far as north as
Nestucca Valley School all theway down to, well, we worked
with Sam Case even in the lastyear in Newport.
So throughout the county andbeyond, teaching kids about
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nature and environment andsustainability and a whole bunch
of things through all sorts ofprograms with Cascade Head Bias
for Collaborative.
And then on the community sideof our work we have again the
Explorances that restarted therewith Christina Pasca we had
interviewed here a while backand then Josh Havlin started the
(30:01):
Biosphere Beach Ambassador sogo to cascadehead.org to see all
of those dates and times andthen as we speak now we're just
getting wind of our estuarytours that are going to be
coming soon so we're going tohave some in June in September
and in October so look for thaton the website as well and And
those will be about $20, Ithink, a person.
(30:23):
It gives you a chance to go upand down the estuary.
You did that last year,
RR (30:27):
I think.
Yes, I did.
It's the first time I've beenon that water.
Son Paul (30:31):
Well, it's not surprising.
It's not easy to get on theSand River if you don't have a
boat.
And so these are walk-onpontoons.
It's courtesy of Westwindthere.
They've got those pontoonboats.
And
RR (30:43):
the information was just fun.
Son Paul (30:45):
Well, it's good to hear.
Yeah, it's a lot of stuff thata lot of people have prepared.
And we have the estuary.
tours and then in the fallwe'll have the Welcoming the
Salmon Home which will have thatestuary tour component as well.
RR (30:55):
A moment ago you mentioned kids and tonight is a special
night for supporting children.
Help send kids to BB Day Camp.
It's a spaghetti dinnertonight.
Starts at 5 o'clock with a camptour, 6 o'clock for dinner and
all of the money, the proceedsall go to sending kids to camp
(31:16):
this summer from our localcommunity.
Critically important Speakingof kids, we are endorsing and
talking about the Lincoln CountySchool District 2025 proposed
bond measure.
No new taxes.
Son Paul (31:33):
Right.
It's a renewal.
And so 50 years, I think 51years is the average age of
those buildings.
And that's a while.
You think your house may in 50years needed some help?
Might need a new roof, youknow, and the like.
A shingle here or there.
Yes.
Yeah.
So we're really proponents ofthis, obviously, on the Double R
(31:53):
Show.
Having you had, what, four kidsgo through
RR (31:57):
this school system?
Absolutely.
I started with our daughter.
When we moved here, she was afirst grader.
So that tells you we won't talkabout how old Trish is.
That kind of gives away how oldyour mother is.
Save the date for the LincolnCity Chamber of Commerce
Business Conference coming up onJune 27th.
Workforce Solutions in the Everchanging economy.
(32:21):
I'd also like to make mentionof Lincoln City activities.
On Tuesday, May 20th at 6o'clock, we have the Planning
Commission meeting.
On Wednesday, May 21, 1o'clock, Parks and Rec Board.
On Thursday, May 22, 3 o'clock,the Community Sustainability
Committee.
And then the City Councilmeeting, May 26, 6 o'clock, in
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Council Chambers.
And again, our special thanksto our veterans that joined us
today.
And for all veterans, we have ahomemade soup and sandwich
luncheon at the Lincoln CityElks Lodge.
This takes place twice a week,the second and fourth Wednesdays
of each month, noon until two.
That's at the Elks Lodge,almost next door to Bi-Mart.
(33:05):
Yeah, just up at Elk andBi-Mart, yeah.
And Small Business Developmentis setting up an activity for
nonprofits.
Yes.
And you're going to beattending
Son Paul (33:17):
this.
Yeah, absolutely.
I thought this was a greatoffering for anybody that's
involved with a nonprofit, maybeeven interested.
You know, if they've got space,I'm sure they'd provide a seat
for you as well if you're justkind of on the outside looking
in.
But contact the college and getregistered for these coming now
May 28th.
I
RR (33:36):
believe so.
It starts?
Yes, May 28th.
the Foundations of NonprofitSuccess featuring Lucinda
Taylor.
Yeah, and then they run monthlythrough
Son Paul (33:45):
January.
Yeah, so it's similar to theirbusiness management program, but
tailored for nonprofits.
RR (33:52):
And last but not least, the Willamette Valley Cancer
Foundation is going to holdtheir Coastal Classic Golf
Tournament and all of theproceeds go to help people
primarily of North LincolnCounty that are suffering from
cancer, even though it says thisis Willamette Valley
Foundation.
There's a lot of money.
Talk to Nancy Oxnold.
(34:14):
A lot of money is raised thatgoes to help families in need
right here in and around LincolnCity.
Son Paul (34:21):
And that's at Chinook Winds Golf Course, right?
RR (34:23):
That's at Chinook Winds Golf Resort where golfing is better
at the beach.
Son Paul (34:28):
There you go, always.
RR (34:29):
Anything else to your side of the table?
No, we're clear from here.
So that will do to the doingson a double hour show.
And again, my special thanks toour guests that were with us
Have a happy day.
Jana (35:05):
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