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SPEAKER_01 (00:01):
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Oh, well, hey, my friend.
Hey, stranger, I should say.
You know, it kind of a littlelate, but time goes by.
I'm like, it's been 500 years.
Two weeks.
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I'm not dramatic, am I?
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So we were we cheated a little.
We talked beforehand, just uhrehashed our our Thanksgivings.
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You had a bigger Thanksgiving, Ithink, than I did.
How many people were at yourgathering?

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Um quick math, probably in the 15-ish
neighborhood.
Somewhere out there.

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Yeah, that's nice.
I think we were probably like10, 12, somewhere in that range.
I mean, the kids take up alreadyfour of those numbers.
Yeah.

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Yep, for sure.
And and you know, that's thebest part is that you know those
numbers keep growing as the kidsbring in, you know, their
significant others and and thosesorts of things, it continues to
grow and you know, all that.

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So yeah, it is.
It's so nice.
And um, you know, the the newscycle had the audacity to keep
going on and on while we weregone.
I mean, hello, everything issupposed to pause until we can
get back and talk about it.
Rude.
Oh my goodness.
Uh, needless to say, there areso many topics that we could
talk about.
I mean, if we tried to covereverything that's happened in

(01:29):
the past two weeks, this wouldbe like a four-hour show.
You know, it might be a 24-hourshow.
We wouldn't do that to you, andwe wouldn't do that to us.
We uh we've got uh a goodselection, a great selection of
all the goings on.
Uh, here's a little overview ofwhat we're gonna be talking
about, guys.

SPEAKER_01 (01:46):
Tonight on the show, and that can migrate the network
or migrate.

SPEAKER_08 (02:20):
Did I even give you a second to speak during all of
this?
I don't know if I really speak.

SPEAKER_06 (02:26):
We're gonna spend a whole hour talking.
People get it.

SPEAKER_08 (02:29):
I I hit that button.
I'm like, did I even shut up fora minute?
No.
Sorry.
I will do better, guys.
Clay, I will do better for therest of this.
Um, yeah, because you're usuallyway more knowledgeable on this
stuff than I am.
Let's go right with this one.
This is obviously uh, you know,one of our biggest topics going
on and just uh utterlydevastating.

(02:51):
Afghan national who came inunder the Biden era resettlement
surge, and he's charged withkilling a National Guard soldier
near the White House.
Another Afghan was caughtposting literal bomb-making
tutorials on TikTok.
That's a whole other segment ofthis conversation that is just
you know, head shaker.
Uh, but now the Trumpadministration is pumping the
brakes on visas, green cards,and asylum from high-risk

(03:12):
countries.
And of course, the media,mainstream media is calling it
an isolated incident, right?

SPEAKER_06 (03:18):
Yeah, so um, you know, the the National Guard
still uh assisting the DC Metropolice in uh you know keeping
our nation's capital safe.
And unfortunately, two NationalGuard soldiers, a staff sergeant
and a specialist, were standingon a street corner uh when an
Afghan national approached themwith a pistol, uh shot them
both.
Um has since uh passed away,unfortunately.

(03:41):
Uh the staff sergeant is uhstill uh fighting for his life,
although I heard today uh hastaken a turn for the better.
Uh I heard regainedconsciousness.
I don't know if that's true ornot.
Um, but that that is the quoteunquote isolated incident that
uh politicians are talkingabout.
Uh the blame game, of course,there was no delay in the blame

(04:02):
game.
There was the typical reactionof, well, they shouldn't have
been there anyway, uh horrific.
Um there was the direct Trumpput them there, this is his
fault.
Uh then, of course, there wasthe uh they they knew what they
were signing up for, uh victimblaming.
So there was all of that uh inthe aftermath.
Uh you know, very little,actually none that I saw from

(04:23):
the left taking responsibilityfor or taking blame for.
Uh the Afghan national not evenshouldn't even have been here.
Uh, you know, at least withoutvetting, which we all know
didn't occur in the massflights, evacuation flights in
the waning days of the U.S.
occupation of Afghanistan.
Um, and so this Afghan nationalis one of them.
Now, we we I am still skeptical.

(04:46):
I know there's a lot of photosout there of him of this ID card
that supposedly puts him into aCIA um funded, trained, and
sanctioned uh special operationsorganization out of Kandahar.
I've heard this, which is why hewas supposedly given essentially
free passage into the UnitedStates.
Um I will tell you that those umthere are so many photographs of

(05:09):
those types of ID cards um thatcould be absolutely forged, that
could be photoshopped, thatcould be a lot of things.
Um, I don't know the thevalidity of that.
Um, I don't know if that's infact who he was.
Right.
Um but he was supposedly, ifthat was who he was, if he was
working with the CIA out ofKandahar, running special

(05:33):
operations, people saidassassination squad, whatever
you want to call it.
Um that was who he was, and thenhe was brought to the United
States.
He has since been radicalized uhsince he's been here.
Um there were claims of the cryof Al-Akbar uh before he shot
the two National Guard members.
Um, but he has since been umapprehended and is in custody

(05:53):
and has been charged.
Uh one count of murder, one oftwo multiple counts of attempted
murder, etc.
Um, that's one.
And then of course we mentionedthe uh the man, you know, given
the tutorials on bomb making uhon TikTok or YouTube, wherever
it was.
I think TikTok is much lessregulated.
Um he has since been arrested.
And then even, oh, by the way,folks, our normal recording

(06:14):
time, Wednesday, uh 4:30 EastCoast, but even just in the last
few hours, there was a report ofuh another Afghan ISIS case
super uh sympathizer uh who hasbeen arrested in the United
States.
So we we clearly have a problem.
Um and the problem that we haveis these tens of thousands,
potentially hundreds ofthousands of Afghans who were
let in by the Bidenadministration in the fall of

(06:38):
Afghanistan, uh specificallyKabul, who have come in
unvetted.
Um and and so now there's atravel restriction going into
place.
There will be not just out ofAfghanistan, because I don't
think there's a whole lot offolks coming into the United
States with an Afghan passportat this point, but nations like
it with troubled um you knowgovernmental uh conditions,
Somalia being one of them.

(06:59):
Um but but uh you know I cantell you folks, it it, you know,
everybody says, well, why whyshould they be vetted?
Why weren't they they werevetted?
They were I I I'll tell youculturally, my experience having
spent quite a bit of time inAfghanistan, all the way from
the very beginning in 2002,during my last um my last tour
in uh what was it, 1213.

(07:21):
I lose track.
Um and and the running the gamutof the the duties and exposure
that I had.
Um culturally, the Afghans areare not nationalist.
And this is what Americans losesight of.
Their loyalty goes family,tribe, religion, and then maybe
national.
So being an Afghan, and a lot ofthem don't being an Afghan has

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no, it's not even a thing forthem.
One of the lines are drawn bysome European guy, you know, in
their minds it doesn't matter.
Their tribal lines are moreimportant, their tribal
allegiances are more important.
Um, so being an Afghan isirrelevant to a lot of so there
is no no sense of nationalism,national pride.
Um so they they can easily beswayed, they can easily be um

(08:05):
their priorities can be shifted.
Um they certainly are gonna showno loyalty to the United States,
no matter what opportunitieshave been given to them since
they've been here.
So do they need to be vetted?
They absolutely do.
Um, is that difficult to do?
Sure it is, because you've got aa nation with not a lot of
governmental infrastructure, andtruthfully, there's no
cooperation that's gonna happento get background information on
Afghans as its fans right now.

(08:26):
Right.
Um so this is a this is aproblem caused directly by the
Biden administration, and thereis no easy answer to this.

unknown (08:32):
No.

SPEAKER_08 (08:33):
Yeah, I was just gonna say there's gotta be, but
there really isn't, you know.
I guess it's not as simple.
Uh I mean, uh maybe it is assimple, at least right now for
the time being, doing, you know,basically exactly what Trump is
doing and trying to do, which isjust halt all of these uh, you
know, uh immigrations into ourcountry, immigrations and
immigrations into our countrybecause because there is no way

(08:56):
to vet these people properly orefficiently, you know, and then
even once they're here, youknow, because as you said, the
part of the questioning here is,you know, was he radicalized
before or after?
And of course, there are youknow, there's some some saying
that it was after since he'sbeen here.
Regardless, really, like well,whatever the case is, he's been

(09:19):
radicalized.
So if it was here, then how canyou monitor?
You can't be expected to monitoreveryone who comes into this
country to keep checking ifthey've been radicalized.
There's just too many people.
So you go back to the whole,well, we need to put a pause on
this, then the we just you justhave to at this point.
It's been it's been just the thewild west essentially of people

(09:41):
coming in unvetted.
So this is the only solutionright now.
And of course, that makes the uhthat the left go insane.
How dare we?
You know, and then that's whenthey like to quote scripture all
of a sudden, all of a suddenthey know scripture and they're
like, Welcome to stranger.
Well, obey the laws of the land.
How about that?
Let's do that first becausethat's what you have to do.
And by the way, that's alsobiblical.

SPEAKER_06 (10:03):
And listen, you and I are not saying that every
Afghan is radicalized or thatthey're horrible people,
terrorists, or anything else.
Listen, I have a made a lot offriends in my three tours over
there.
Um, they are, you know, goodpeople generally.
However, their priorities arevery culturally different from
ours, which causes a problem.
Um, but there are bad apples inthere, of course.

(10:23):
Um, and they were released intothe wild as soon as they hit the
ground.
And, you know, bad apples aregonna find each other.
So it doesn't take much uh forthis to be a cause for concern
for the United States.
Like we we need to take thisseriously as a nation.
And if that means that wewithhold benefits until they
come and report in and we have achance to the background to vet

(10:43):
them, um if it means giving theman opportunity to self-deport to
a you know Islam Muslim friendlynation, then maybe we provide
that opportunity.
Um, I would tell you that ifthey're from southern
Afghanistan, you know, in aroundKandahar, members of the the uh
Pashtun tribe, that they mayhave the opportunity to go back,
go to Pakistan.
They probably have familymembers um, you know, in that

(11:05):
that what would be the southwestregion of Pakistan that might
take them in.
Um, but I there has to be somefollow-up.
Uh has to be.
Um we can't just let this gounchecked and hope for the best.
Um, the numbers are just way toohigh.

SPEAKER_08 (11:19):
Yeah, yeah.
That that's just overall themost matter of course thing to
be doing at this point.
And, you know, frankly, anyonewho disagrees with that, pound
sand, uh, but don't even care,right?
Like just go go cry about itthen, honestly, because the the
safety of our nation and our ourpeople are, you know, they have
to be first and foremost.
It's that simple.

(11:40):
And that there's nothing more toit.
And and to your uh point, and Idon't know if I in her had heard
this, I think I deliberatelytuned things out because it'll
make me so angry to hit to hearit, the the victim blaming uh
that you mentioned.
That, you know, you hear thiskind of crap all the time.
We hear it as law enforcementspouses, law enforcement
families, we hear thisconstantly.

(12:00):
Anytime a police officer, inthis case, uh military, any any
of our protectors and defenders,really, anytime they get injured
or worse, killed, that is likeone of their top go-to's.
Well, they knew what they weregetting into, they knew what
they signed up for.
Yeah, they did know.
Thank them for it.
How about that?
How about thank them for beingwilling to make the ultimate

(12:23):
sacrifice for you, youungrateful piece of garbage?
I can say that because I meanbecause I can.
But you are in a great way.
If that is vocabulary, if thoseare words that come out of your
mouth, that is a thought in yourhead, you are an ungrateful
piece of garbage.
Period.
And I'm I'm standing on that.
Yeah, I think that infuriatesme.

SPEAKER_06 (12:45):
As it should.
Uh, and I and I think that thatis um, you know, that that
attitude, that victim blaming,that blaming the administration,
that the it's all that blameshifting away from, you know,
really the person to be blamedis that right?
And then you go to, you know,uh, the how did he become who he
was?
You know, how did he get here?

(13:06):
Who are his associates?
Like all of those things, youknow, it it uh the the blaming
of the victim, the blaming ofthe administration, the current
administration is trying toclean up this mess for saying,
Oh, this card shouldn't havebeen there in the first place.
It's like, okay, well, if theyweren't there, we already know
what the murder rate was beforethey were there.
You know, let's want to revertback to that and say, well, you
know, the you know, peopleshouldn't have been walking the

(13:28):
streets of Washington, DC to becrime victims.
Like it's yeah, the mindset iscompletely asinine, but that is
where we are right now, which isshameful.
So um let's uh you knowobviously pray for and and keep
good faith and in that the staffsergeant um who is uh you know
continuing to fight for hislife, and uh hopefully he can
get back up on his feet againand uh give the follow up.

SPEAKER_08 (13:49):
I'm sorry, yes, absolutely.
I have a question for you.
Uh and I don't know if you knowthe answer to this.
You know, as usual, to any kindof major story, something like
this, there's uh as we wellknow, there's like 50 different
versions like one of theearliest things that I had uh
read was that both had died.
Like that was the very early onthat that was the report that
both of uh these NationalGuardsmen um were killed.

(14:11):
And then, you know, to come tofind out that that wasn't the
case initially.
So I don't know if there's anyvalidity to this.
So that's why I'm asking if youheard this.
I read that one of the otherNational Guardsmen who came to
their aid, came to theirdefense, um, was not carrying a
firearm.
And he actually is that it thatis correct, and he all he had

(14:31):
was a knife.

SPEAKER_06 (14:33):
And that was how he So um the initial reporting, as
as I have tried to impart on youover the last few years, initial
reports are always wrong.
Um and the and the governor ofWest Virginia got a report that
both of those National Guardmembers had been killed
essentially on the spot, or atleast once they arrived at the
hospital.
So he took that report andunfortunately called a press
conference with no validation,or was maybe even in a press

(14:55):
conference at the time, andannounced that the two of them
had died.
Um, and then of course got thecorrected report that they were
both still alive, and theneventually um the young
specialist passed away.
Um, but yes, I've also read thereport that in response to the
shooting, um, I believe it was amajor um who was not either not
armed or didn't have anyammunition.

(15:16):
And you and I spoke, you know,when this whole thing happened,
that one of my biggest fears uhfor the National Guard was that
they wouldn't be armed properly,protected properly, or wouldn't
be given the proper authoritiesto be carrying live ammunition,
et cetera, et cetera.
Um why this individual was notarmed or not carrying
ammunition, I don't know.
Um, but I do know his responsewas to take out his uh folding

(15:38):
knife and go after the attacker.
Uh God bless him.
So he waited.
Um my understanding is that theAfghan had a revolver, which
typically has six shots in it.
Um, and in a in a lull of theshooting, um, he responded and
attacked, you know, jumped thejumped the Afghan with a pocket
knife, uh inflicted some damage,and then you know, they they
balled him up and took him intocustody.

(15:58):
So um, yeah, good on that guy.
Um, depending on how all of thisis um categorized, uh, it's very
difficult because this may notbe categorized as a wartime
action, and therefore um theclassification types of medals
and awards and and decorationsthat this individual should
receive will depend on how theyclassify this.
There is there is somethingcalled the soldiers' medal,

(16:21):
which um is for act of braveryand usually saving the lives of
soldiers not involved in combat.
Um so at a minimum, thisindividual should receive
something like that.
Absolutely.
Yeah.

unknown (16:32):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 (16:33):
Pretty awesome story, though.

SPEAKER_08 (16:34):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, incredible.
Such, you know, that's that'stalk about bravery.
That's what we talk about whenwe talk about bravery and why we
get, you know, certain peoplelike myself and probably YouTube
play.
I don't like to speak foranybody else, but get really
annoyed by anybody referring tobeing a boy wearing a girl's
dress and calling it brave.
You know, we we have verydifferent definitions of what

(16:55):
constitutes bravery.
And um, you know, this this wasan example of what I would
consider bravery.
So yeah.
Oh my goodness, let's move on tothis shufflehead.
Oh man, oh man.
He just really steps into it,doesn't he?

SPEAKER_06 (17:10):
I thought after the election we were never gonna see
him again.

SPEAKER_08 (17:12):
I really thought that too.
No, no, no.
He is uh stuck in the middle ofa uh yet another scandal that he
cannot spin.
Uh a billion dollar, that isbillion with a B evaporated into
fraudulent nonprofits tied tothe state's welfare and food aid

(17:34):
programs.
Treasury is investigating,Congress is investigating, and
whistleblowers say that Wall'sadministration was warned
repeatedly and chose to look theother way.
So oh my goodness, go ahead,Clay.

SPEAKER_06 (17:47):
Yeah, so um, you know, this was a this was
brought up by, like you said,whistleblowers.
They they uh on Twitter uh or Xor whatever, they used their
official blue check Twitter pageto tell Governor Waltz that this
was going on.
Um they also went through normalwhistleblower channels and it
was ignored.
And so we've got a couple ofthings going on for old Tim

(18:09):
Waltz.
One of them is this umhealthcare fraud that's going
on.
Um, and then you know, whensomething looks and smells bad,
people start digging deeper.
And so now we've got uh thetransportation secretary has
looked into driver's licenses,and now they're talking there
has been, you know, thousands ofCDLs given illegally uh to

(18:30):
people who shouldn't have alicense, right?
Which we have we saw thatcrackdown in California.
Now you've got the same thinggoing on in Minnesota.
Um, and you know, at first theadministration could have said
criminal activity, right?
And blamed it on criminalactivity.
But again, the more you scratch,the bigger, the deeper you dig,
and the more things you find, wefind out that this is ineptitude

(18:53):
bordering on criminal activity.
In other words, you know,negligence and willful
misconduct, where they said,Yeah, we know what's going on
and we're just gonna look theother way.
Um, so the state government ofMinnesota is uh in in deep, deep
doo-doo.
Yeah, big time.

SPEAKER_08 (19:08):
What did he have?
I know it was a different flag.
Wasn't there a big thing?
And I know we shared it too.
He had when he did that, youknow, whatever was speech or
recorded speech, he had thestate flag.
And wasn't it a Somali flagbehind him?
Or was it it was another nation?
I know that.

SPEAKER_06 (19:25):
I remember and we'll have I'll have to look at this,
but I saw something today.
I I was not aware of this, andand I and I got distracted by
other things because it seemedmildly ludicrous or somewhat
unimportant, but maybe it's not.
That the Minnesota state flaghas been replaced.
They have had a new version ofthe state flag, which looks very
much the Somali flag is verybasic.
It's blue, blue field, white,white star on it.

(19:48):
The new Minnesota flag, the oldMinnesota flag was very ornate,
had the state skill on it, um,but it has been replaced by I
think two shades of blue and awhite star.
It looks very similar to aSomali flag, it's very, very
simple.
Uh, but yes, that that has notbeen lost on many, many people.

SPEAKER_08 (20:06):
Yeah, yeah.
There's some great memes outthere.
There's one uh from that moviewith the Somali pirates and uh
him, that really skinny, skinnyguy, and uh it's him saying, I'm
your governor now.
And I was gonna I was I I wasgonna put it up, but I was like,
maybe not.

SPEAKER_06 (20:22):
Yeah, I this is you know, there's two sides to this
argument, and you you can'tignore both of them because you
have one, which is that this isa heavily Somali-driven um fraud
operation that's been going on.
Yeah.
Uh, you know, there are a numberof benefits that have been taken
taxpayer dollars out of thestate of of Minnesota that have

(20:42):
been funneled through and sentback to Somalia to Al-Shrabaab
or some other terroristorganization.
Um, so you've got that.
And then my understanding isthat most of these CDLs, very
much like California, that havebeen issued fraudulently,
illegally, have been um issuedto Somalis uh and and
non-American citizens.
Um so you could say that there'syou could blame the Somalis for

(21:04):
the fraud.
Sure.
But again, the more you dig andthe worse this smells, it all
points back to some sort ofcooperation or at least you
know, understanding or denial oracceptance by the state of
Minnesota to allow this tohappen, these things to happen.
Um, and it just is this thisSomali dense Somali population

(21:24):
that is uh conducting theseillegal activities.
And and Minnesota has just said,that's cool.
We're right.
Right, right.

SPEAKER_08 (21:30):
I just I want I want to see these officials' bank
accounts.
I'd like to know uh I'd like toknow what their their earnings
are at this point comparative totheir uh you know income from
their job.

SPEAKER_06 (21:42):
I'd like to know, you know, what uh throw throw
one more thing on there, and Iknow this one will irritate you
being an LER spouse.
The sh the uh chief of police ofMinneapolis, have you seen this?
I have not had a pressconference uh and said if when
you see ICE, call 911 and theMinneapolis Police Department

(22:04):
will go and arrest uh ICEagents, they will go in, you
know.
So this is essentially docs ICEby calling 911, right?
And then the police are supposedto react and then go inter
interject, interdict ICE agentsfrom doing their job.
This is the chief of police.
Wow.
Um, where the chief of policewas like, listen, we're just not

(22:27):
going to enforce anything.
This is an active role indenying ICE, you know, their
job.
Um absolutely disgusting.
It it is, and it's puttingpolice officers in a very, very
dangerous position because ifthey go and interdict ICE, they
go and try to attempt to arrestor detain ice, at some point

(22:48):
there is going to be conflict.
And when I say conflict, I'm nottalking about grown men yelling
and screaming at each other.
Somebody is gonna lay hands onsomebody else and it's gonna get
ugly.

SPEAKER_08 (22:58):
Very, very ugly.
Yeah, yeah.
This is uh not not good.
And you know, you have peoplelike this guy and his little
seditious six basically beingthe dog whistle blowers for all
of this and so much more goingon.

(23:18):
Um I this was you know, the onlything more jaw-dropping than
them making this video is thepeople defending it and
basically saying, well, they'reonly they they sent illegal
orders.
Well, you know what?
Shut the hell up.
Seriously.
Like, give me a give me a break.
Either you're playing dumb oryou're that dumb to not be able

(23:39):
to read through the lines here.
So uh we we'll play it soeverybody can see, just in case
you've missed it.
Senator Alyssa Hopkins.

SPEAKER_04 (23:45):
Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris Deluzio.

SPEAKER_07 (23:47):
Congressman Maggie Gulini, Representative Chrissy
Houlihan.

SPEAKER_04 (23:50):
Congressman Jason Crow, that was a captain in the
United States Navy, former CIAofficer, former Navy, former
paratrooper and army ranger,former intelligence officer,
former air force.
We want to speak directly tomembers of the military and the
intelligence community who takerisks each day to keep Americans
safe.

SPEAKER_07 (24:02):
We know you are under enormous threats and
pressure right now.
Americans trust their military.

SPEAKER_04 (24:06):
That trust is that risk.
This administration is hittingour uniform military and
intelligence communityprofessionals against American
citizens.
Like us, you will score no rightnow.
Threats to our constitutionaren't just coming from abroad,
but from right here at home.
Our laws are clear.
You can refuse illegal orders.

SPEAKER_07 (24:23):
You can refuse illegal orders.

SPEAKER_04 (24:24):
You must refuse illegal orders.

SPEAKER_07 (24:26):
No one has to carry out orders that violate the law
or our constitution.

SPEAKER_04 (24:29):
We know this is hard, and that it's a difficult
time to be a public servant.
But whether you're serving inthe CIA, the Army, the Navy, the
Air Force, your vigilance iscritical.

SPEAKER_07 (24:37):
No we have your back.
Because now, more than ever, theAmerican people need you.
We need you to stand up for ourlaws.

SPEAKER_04 (24:43):
Our constitution and who we are as Americans.
Don't give up.
Don't give up.
Don't give up.
Don't give up the ship.

SPEAKER_08 (24:50):
Well then.
Um, so first of all, Mark Kellyis gotta be like the angriest
little troll man from under abridge I've ever seen.
Like, I don't know why he's themost miserable man on the
planet, but he clearly is.
Um that they sat down togetherand were like, this is a really

(25:10):
good idea.
I think we should make thisvideo.
Uh, everybody read your lines,because they're, you know, all
clearly reading off their littlescript there.
Um, and let's put this outthere.
And I'm sure nothing, nothingbad will come of this, you know,
feels like a really great idea.
What the heck were theythinking?
And doubling down, by the way,the uh what's her name there?
The one that went back now afterand said that um she cited a few

(25:35):
good men as her as her backup.
Like they asked her, like, well,what what's what are the illegal
orders?
What what illegal orders are youspecifically referencing?
And she's like, Well, you know,uh it's like a a few good men,
and that was it.
Okay, because I know you want togo off on this.
Go.

SPEAKER_06 (25:52):
Yeah.
So here here is the mostdishonest part of all of this,
um, which is saying a lotbecause there's a lot of dishon
dishonesty going on here.

SPEAKER_01 (25:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (26:00):
So the orders that they're talking about, there
have been no illegal ordersgiven.
Okay.
And they've been asked,including Mark Kelly, have been
asked in a public forum multipletimes can you give us an example
of an illegal order that's beengiven?
There have been none.
They can give no examples.
Here's the other thing thatpeople, unless you've been in
the military, and really unlessyou've been in the military in
the last 20 years, people don'tknow or don't realize.

(26:23):
Every single year, every servicemember is briefed by their chain
of command and or a JAGattorney, and they are briefed
on the code of conduct, whatused to, what is now the law of
armed conflict or the law ofland warfare and the Geneva
Convention.
Okay.
Everybody knows the rules.
They know illegal and moral,unethical orders are not to be

(26:46):
followed.
Okay.
Everybody knows that.
Now, when you go on anoperational deployment, you are
also briefed.
Number one, you're re-briefed onlaw of armed conflict, code of
conduct, and the GenevaConvention.
But then you are also briefed onvery specific directives for the
operation or the theater thatyou're in.
So if there are any rules ofengagement, if there are
escalation of force, if there'sdirectives by the commander, you

(27:08):
are briefed these things againby your chain of command and by
or by a JAG attorney.
Okay.
So everybody knows those.
Everybody in the last year hasbeen given those directives.
Why six members of Congressthink that they need to come
over the top and re-uh-emphasizethose things is part of the
dishonesty.

(27:29):
Also, the people who are givingthe orders, quote unquote, um,
illegal orders, are all flaglevel, meaning general officers
or admirals, are the ones givingthese orders.
Those individuals are allconfirmed by guess who?
Congress.
Those same six individuals arepart of the body that confirms,
puts trust and confidence intothose flag officers who are

(27:52):
supposedly giving illegalorders.
So who is responsible?
Right.
Congress is, right?
If there's a problem with one ofthese people giving illegal
orders, Congress is responsiblefor come for confirming them and
putting them in those trustedpositions.
So those six people, and and asthey say, oh, we're just saying
it just in case.

SPEAKER_00 (28:12):
We're just saying.

SPEAKER_06 (28:13):
We're just saying we're just saying it.
One, no need to.
Two, if there are illegal ordersbeing given and they're being
given by admirals and generals,you are the people who put those
those individuals in thosepositions.
So all of you, shut up.
Seriously.
Stay in your lane, right?
Get get out of the way.
And I know everybody's going totalk about hexit and this story

(28:33):
about two strikes on a boat,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
Let me tell you something.
And I know people don't want tohear this, but I spent a lot of
time in combat over the last 20years.
And anybody who spent any timein a joint operations center
watched Apaches fly back andforth until they were out of
ammunition, you know, watchedA-10s and close air support and
all this stuff come in.
And listen, war is an awfulthing, and we killed a lot of

(28:56):
people.
And that's what's going on here.
This is international waters.
These are terroristorganizations,
terrorist-designatedorganizations, and we are
eliminating a terrorist threatto the United States.
I know people are going to say,well, there were two survivors.
Who, first of all, the firststory said that they launched
SEAL team six to go kill thesetwo survivors.

(29:17):
Unbelievably untrue.
And then they said, oh no, theymade another pass with the
drone, and there was anotherstrike.
Okay.
Well, they were no longer athreat.
Not true.
Law of armed conflict.
Right.
They are still, they are still athreat.
Okay.
So all these former Jagattorneys, retired army officers
and senior military officers andsenior enlisted guys who are

(29:38):
voicing their opinion becausethey don't like the
administration, they don't likeSecretary Hegzett, they don't
like President Trump.
They don't like what's going on.
They all need to remember whatthey've been doing for the what
we collectively have been doingfor the last 20 years.
That they were all a part of, bythe way.
But there's an entireadministration, the the
Department of War, Department ofDefense, whatever you want to

(29:59):
call it, and a Litany ofattorneys who have checked all
of this out.
And by the way, folks, it's alllegal.
Otherwise, we wouldn't beputting it on freaking
television.

SPEAKER_08 (30:08):
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, come on, use some commonsense, will you?
Like, really?
You think they're gonna just goflaunting illegal acts for
everybody?
Give me a break.
Stop being so stupid about this,about everything, really.
And you know, and then to playdumb like this with the what
we're just saying, you know, youknow, going back to, of course,
the you know, defy, don't defyuh or defy illegal orders, blah,

(30:31):
blah, blah.
Uh give me a break.
You banked on the absolute factthat the average citizen would
not know the things that Clayjust shared.
I certainly didn't know thosethings.
I mean, I I knew some of itbecause I had to research for
this topic, but before that, Idon't know.
So if I don't know and I'm notwilling to look it up, I'm gonna

(30:52):
watch that and automaticallymake those connections that, oh,
that must mean that Trump is ormaking illegal orders for our
military, and that's really bad.
So now I have to be angry aboutthat, and it's another thing to
be mad at Trump about.
I I don't need to research itbecause these people told me,
and you know, they seem reallyofficial and they know what

(31:12):
they're talking about.
So why would they lie to me?
And now I'm gonna go telleverybody I know that, you know,
Trump is is uh you know givingillegal orders to our military
and they should fight.
You know, I mean, they knewexactly what was gonna happen,
which is that, which is exactlywhat is happening.
Everyone, you know, who's on theleft or just simply a Trump
hater, uh, is running with thisand calling it fact and telling

(31:34):
everybody else, you guys, thisis what they freaking do, and
it's so disgusting.
And I hope whatever action,legal action that can be taken
against them.
They're looking into umsomething with Mark Kelly.
What are they looking at?
Let's see.

SPEAKER_06 (31:48):
So Mark Kelly, because he is a retired officer
and he's drawing a pension, theservice secretary, him being a
Navy, former Navy officer,retired Navy officer, the
secretary of the Navy can recallhim to active duty as long as he
is drawing a pension.
And then they can at leastconduct an investigation.
Um, they can prefer charges forcourt martial, et cetera, once

(32:09):
they bring him on active duty.
Um and Secretary Heggsith um didsend a memo that he put on X
that people are not happy aboutthis either.
I've seen a bunch of lawyersjump in on this too.
Um, you know, he sent a memo tothe Secretary of Navy that said,
hey, you know, uh former, youknow, current congressman,
former captain, maybe CaptainMark Kelly is potentially doing
some some illegal, you know,activities.

(32:31):
Um, you probably need to lookinto this and report back to me.
Sign exit, boom, and it goes,right?
Listen, the SecWar, Sec Def hasbeen communicating with service
secretaries on stuff like thissince there's been a department.
This is nothing new.
The people are upset because heput it on Twitter.
Okay, well, that's how this,that's how this administration
operates.
And if you haven't put it onTwitter, they would say, Oh,

(32:51):
he's doing it in secret, youknow.

SPEAKER_08 (32:53):
Exactly.
Yeah, there's literally nothingthey can say or do this
administration to appease orplease um you know this proud.

SPEAKER_06 (33:00):
Yeah.
And so so, like me, I'm in thesame situation.
If I did something that causedthe government to, you know,
question me, I'm a retired armyofficer, I'm drawing a pension.
If secretary, if you know, andI've not been so supportive of
Secretary Exit, but I haven'tdone anything like what Mark
Kelly's doing, right?
Right.
So, but if I pissed off Exit, hecould send a memo to the

(33:22):
Secretary of the Army that says,hey, recall Novak back to active
duty, tell him to shave hisbeard and get in uniform, and
we're gonna we're gonna havesome words with this guy.
I that's like don't you dare.

SPEAKER_08 (33:31):
You can't take my co-host.
No, sir.

SPEAKER_06 (33:33):
No.
But all of us, all of us formerwho are drawing a pension
officers, up to I think it's 62,it might be 65, um, but you can
be brought back on active dutyuh at the discretion, not even
of the Secretary of Defense orSecretary of War, but of the
service secretary.
So uh whoever you belong to,whoever signs your retirement
checks, um, that's that's whocan bring you back on.

(33:55):
But I I actually think that theyshould.
I really do.
Uh, and I know that that's notuh popular opinion with a lot of
folks, um, but I I think MarkKelly has done this and he
hasn't uh, you know, he'scontinued to push buttons and I
think this is a point where hedoes need to be recalled.
And I and I think he does needto be investigated.

(34:15):
Um and I know he'll put up astink and he'll say that he's
being targeted and all of theseother things.
But the reality is that if youremember, the for the last four
years before President Trump gotinto office, what did we hear?
No one is above the law.
No one is above the law.
And that includes Mark Kelly.
That's right.
And and I think that what he isdoing is by definition sedition.
And I think he should be putback in uniform, and I think he

(34:37):
should stand in front of thechain of command, and there
should be an investigation.
Yes.

SPEAKER_08 (34:42):
Yeah, I you know, I hope they do it.
I hope they I hope they don'tjust make a lot of noise, shake
their fists, and threatenthings.
Just do it, just do it.
You know, I don't I don't reallycare about all the crybabies
crying about it and saying it'snot fair and it's targeting and
blah blah cry again.
What do I love to say,everybody?
Cry harder, cry more, call.
Don't care.
Yeah.

(35:02):
That's all do it, do it, do it.
Because that what they just did,you know, uh to say that it was
not helpful to anyone oranything, is the understatement
of the week, you know, or of theday, because there's lots of
understatements.
But uh yeah, how does I you knowI have a weird little side note.
Maybe it's nothing, maybe it'ssomething, and maybe you have
some insight on it.

(35:22):
I noticed that they left out theMarines.

SPEAKER_06 (35:24):
Did you notice our Marines?
That's why.
Oh no that was there, none ofthose.

SPEAKER_08 (35:30):
Oh, so they just addressed like their branches.
Oh, okay, thank you.
Yeah, there were no Marines inthat crowd.
Yeah, and that I thought it Ithought it was maybe because the
Marines would just all tell themto go delete themselves.
You can tell I'm married to aMarine, right?
Like, you know, I gotta be like,well, you know, they're so
badass that technically theMarines fall under Department of
the Navy anyway.

SPEAKER_06 (35:49):
So I know, I know, but no, it's if they're none of
them are Marines.
Okay, one intelligence officerand five uh former military
officers, and the only one who'sactually a retiree is Mark
Kelly, which is why he is theonly one who could be called to
active duty.

SPEAKER_08 (36:02):
Oh, okay.
All right, that makes sense.
Oh my goodness.
So we'll keep watching that.
If uh, you know, maybe if we'relucky, we'll get to report on
his uh hearing.
Would it be like a publichearing like they do?
No.
Or that'd be private.
Oh, okay.
Well well, I'd like to see it.
Yeah.
That's okay.
Uh, let's move on to this guyright here.
Oh my.
This is always a thing, right?

(36:23):
Uh so Nicholas Maduro is stillpretending that last year's
election meant anything.
Conservative outlets, foreigngovernments, even some regional
left-leaning governments saidthat the whole thing was a fraud
from top to bottom, which we'veknown that all along, or we've
discussed that all along.
Uh, the opposition candidateEdmundo Gonzalez was the real
winner, and now he's in exile.
Uh, Maduro responded by cuttingties with countries that dare to

(36:44):
point out the obvious.
So fun times over there, huh?

SPEAKER_06 (36:48):
Yeah, I mean, you're talking about what was the
wealthiest um and most uhup-and-coming uh nation in South
America uh less than 15 yearsago.
Yeah.
Uh and and then they said, verymuch like a few really not smart
people in the United States,socialism's a great idea.
And so they went to a socialistgovernment, and uh now literally

(37:08):
I've read two accounts where umretire uh retirement pension
checks are in the 50 cent rangeuh per week um because that's
what that's what can be affordedput out.
Um the value of of their moneyis essentially zero.
Um so even that 50 cents isworth nothing.
Um via vehicles are worthnothing because nobody can buy

(37:29):
them.
Houses are property value isworth nothing, um, etc.
They even did a um holiday, likeuh uh I don't know if you saw
this.
There's some pictures.
It was like a Thanksgiving-ishkind of meal where they had
these government officials andtheir families and they took
pictures of them and they alllooked very happy.
But if you look really close,the meals, all of the food on
the place is like is likeplastic fissure price.

(37:50):
It's all they couldn't even,yeah.
Um, and so anyway, so Maduro's apart of this.
We all know that he's in thecartel chain of command,
essentially.
Um, and this is all stemmingfrom really us sinking all these
boats in the in the you know theCaribbean.
Um and you know, there's been anexchange of words between him
and President Trump.
Um, he's doing some you knowface-saving saber rattling, and

(38:14):
uh they tried to refuse therepatriation flights uh of
Venezuelan illegal immigrants.
Um and then President Trumpsaid, Okay, fine, we're just
gonna close your entireairspace, which you know drew a
lot of attention because thosewho saw it on the economic side
that said, Oh, well, that's justa blockade.
Um, but but people from thedefense side said that's

(38:37):
clearing airspace for drone andbomber strikes potentially to go
into Venezuela.
And so Maduro, Maduro knew that,and his military advisors told
him that.
Right.
And so he panicked.
Um, and then there was a phonecall between him and President
Trump where a lot of things werediscussed, but really not a lot
was done.
The phone was hung up, and thenTrump basically said, Hey, just

(38:57):
shut the airspace down.
And then Maduro panicked and hecalled him back and he wouldn't
answer the phone.
Um, but there has been openlines of communications
re-established.
Um, and so basically whatPresident Trump has said is
leave, pack your stuff, takeyour family, get out.
Um the people of Venezuela havebeen clamoring for.
Right.
Um the the problem is, and hehe's one of his conditions is

(39:18):
he's actually asked for amnesty,global, global amnesty um for
for everything that he has done.
Now, it'll be interesting to seebecause I think that he's kind
of selling out the cartelleadership by being like, hey,
if you just pardon me and let mego, right cool.
Um, so they may take care ofbusiness down there.

SPEAKER_08 (39:36):
I was gonna say, I'm sure we'll be reading about his
execution any day now then.

SPEAKER_06 (39:40):
Make things very, very simple.

SPEAKER_08 (39:42):
Yeah, and this is the way they deal with things
there.

SPEAKER_06 (39:44):
So as we play this, you know.
And and for everybody who'sworked up about this and thinks
that this is um, you know,essentially illegal, immoral,
unethical, we did this in 1989,by the way.
Um when we jumped in, you know,invaded Panama in 1989.
There was no like literallyparatroopers in the errors when
Congress got told it washappening.
Okay.
And this was to eliminate adictator, Manuel Noriega, right?

(40:07):
There was some Americans thatwere in jail that were freed.
Um, but it was to eliminate himas a dictator, free the the
country of Panama, et cetera, etcetera.
Um, this is the same thing.
So um, we've done this before.
It's not new news, but peopleare gonna get worked up about it
because it's 2025 and not 1989.
Right, right.
And it's Trump and you know,blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_08 (40:28):
You know, I just, I just before any of this happens,
I just really, really wish wecould just scoop up all those
little democratic socialists,put them on a plane on a one-way
trip, and let them spend sometime there and see how well
their their nice, friendly,lovely, kind socialism works.

(40:50):
You know, how it really works.
I mean, the obviously we allshould really know this by now,
but apparently, you know, theirtheir idea is that, well, we're
gonna do it better.

SPEAKER_03 (40:58):
It'll work here.

SPEAKER_08 (41:00):
It'll work here, you know.
Because we're calling itdemocratic socialism.
So that's different, you know?
Yeah, how about that?

SPEAKER_06 (41:10):
You know, what do you what do you know about it?
Your family being Cuban and Ohmy gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (41:14):
I mean, it's not like it's not like my you know
parents and grandparents uh youknow fled those countries from
from this, you know.
I'm sure you guys can make itwork way better.
City, let's let's talk about NewYork in uh, you know, a year or
so.
Hopefully there's enough uh uhopposition there to stop that

(41:35):
from becoming what they'retrying to make it become.
But oh my goodness.
Speaking of slight segue, didyou see how angry they all were
that um uh mom Donnie went andvisited Trump?
Did we talk?
We didn't even get a chance totalk about that.
We didn't because it washappened during our our little
break, though.
I I posted like probably one ofthe funniest pictures, to me at

(41:57):
least.
It's it was a picture of uh thetwo of them side by side, and
mom Donnie is like leaning in,and Trump is, you know, and you
see it was very, very funny.
Yeah, people had a lot to sayabout that.
But yeah, they did not like thathe went to spend some time
kissing the ring of King Trump.

SPEAKER_06 (42:14):
Well, you know, and I know that the there's the the
top of the food chain in asocialist government is never.

SPEAKER_08 (42:21):
Right, never ever.

SPEAKER_06 (42:22):
Right, never ever.
And momdani knows that.
You know, he's gonna he's gonnabe just fine.
Uh the people of New York andthe city are gonna suffer.
Who you will be just fine in themayor's mansion, uh eating very,
very well in all of thosethings, just like in Maduro,
it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_08 (42:35):
So yeah, that's always the way it is, always the
way it is.
And if these people would justget this through their thick,
silly little skulls, we wouldn'thave to have these conversations
anymore.
Um, but you know, so that was arecent election.
Let's talk about this here.
Whoa, how about that?
How about it?
Uh, let's see.
I skipped over.
Did I skip over?
I'm looking at my notes, guys.

(42:56):
Don't be judging me because I'mlooking at my notes.
Um Tennessee's 7th district justwrapped up its special election
district.
It's a district that Trump wonby over 20 points.
This should have been an easyglide for Republican Matt Van
Epps.
Instead, Democrats poured inmoney activists and national
support behind progressiveorganizer Afton Bain.

(43:16):
I probably pronounced thatwrong.
That's what I mean.
Um yeah, thank you.
Um, but he did win, of course.
Thank goodness.
Uh, but uh that does seem to bekind of a wake-up call for
conservatives that we cannot sitback quietly.
Like we you gotta be aggressive,you gotta be yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (43:32):
She was she was winning.
Uh um some thankfully theinternet did what the internet
does, as I like to say.
Um, and some things resurfacedfrom her her past where she
really talked horribly aboutNashville.
Um I I really, really think thatthat very lucky for the GOP,
yeah, but I think that that losther.

(43:53):
She didn't lose the electionuntil the last probably 72
hours.
Um and and for those notfollowing, what she said was all
of the things that makeNashville Nashville, right?
The pedal bar, you know, the thehonky donks and the country
singing and all of those thingsthat make Nashville Nashville,
she said she hates aboutNashville.

SPEAKER_08 (44:12):
And then she denied saying it, even though it's it's
it's recorded.
There's proof, it's recorded.
You can watch it, you can hearit, you can see it.
There's proof.

SPEAKER_06 (44:20):
And and I saw an interview, some man on the
street interviews where you knowthe younger, that the targeted
progressive, that age group,right?
That whole like you know, 18 to32 window, um, we're all like,
well, you know, people change,and we all have things that we
wish we didn't say, and all thisother stuff.
And then I talked to a couple ofolder folks from Tennessee, and
one guy was like, I don't knowhow stupid you have to be, but

(44:43):
she's not gonna change when shegets in off, you know, and he
just called it like he saw.
Um but that district thankfullyuh went to Van Epps, is that his
name?
Yeah, Van Epps.
And uh, and you know, who's awho's an army guy, um, by the
way.
And uh, and and thankfully hecarried that.
So um, but but I I do think theGOP got lucky.
I really do.

(45:04):
I think had that not resurfacedand gained some traction in the
media, I think she probablywould have won.

SPEAKER_08 (45:09):
Yeah, yeah.
It's it, you know, it's reallyscary because this is such a
familiar pattern that the theright tends to just kind of sit
back and count their, what isit, count their chickens before
they've hatched and and justexpect that they're going to win
because they've won before orbecause they, you know, come

(45:31):
just wake up and and every everyelection should be treated.
And I don't care how many yearsor how many elections have been,
you know, in the bag, so tospeak, um, treat it every single
time like you're fighting foryour life.
Like every single time, everystate, every election, treat it
like you're fighting for yourlife.

(45:52):
We need a uh Scott, I don't knowif you know who he is, but we
need a uh Scott Presley in everystate.
Like if we could just clone himand put him in every state, that
the man is is tireless and youknow, in just incredible.
And we need more like him thatare just going around his um, if
you don't know who he is, youcan follow him on uh on X, I'm
sure on other platforms too, butI think he's the most prevalent

(46:13):
on X and maybe Instagram.
Uh he goes by the persistence isum his username, his handle.
And uh he's a pretty incredibleguy.
He's he's out there just dayafter day, week after week,
month after month, um gettingpeople to vote, you know,
getting them out there.
And uh it's pretty impressive.
And and we need more like that.
We need more people doing that,and we need more people taking

(46:33):
it as seriously as he's tryingto tell everybody to take this.
And this is a great example ofthat, you know?

SPEAKER_06 (46:38):
Yeah, and and uh you're right.
This is uh we have to take allof these seriously.
I think there was a surge at theend, but but spurred on by her
own, you know, her own words.
Um and and I know there's a lotof people who are kind of
shocked by this because they'relike, Nashville, you know,
that's you know, veryconservative and blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
Well, it's not though.
Like there have been so manypeople.

(46:59):
Nashville is like a microcosm ofColorado.
Um, you know, there's been a lotof, you know, used to be very
red, very conservative, verysouthern values kind of place.
And then people left places likeNew York and Chicago and all
these other places and moved toNashville, and they brought
their crap with them.
So it's a very, very blue city,um, and and dominates that

(47:20):
specific district.
So it is that telltale, youknow, um, you know, how things
change with the population andhow people drag their values
into a place and they can flipit, like you're talking about.
We have to be, everybody has tobe diligent and participate in
the election.
So um, thankfully, this one gotpulled out in time and it wasn't
close.

(47:40):
I mean, it was about eightpoints.
Um but I think that that upuntil the end, I think it was
very close.

SPEAKER_08 (47:45):
Yeah, that's scary.
That's scary.
You can't uh can't rest on itfor sure.
Not in this day and age by anymeans, because they not only do
they play the long game as we'vediscussed many times, they play
dirty, they play hard, and theyplay to win.

SPEAKER_03 (47:58):
Yep, for sure.

SPEAKER_08 (47:59):
They're they're playing for total domination.
So about right, you know, comeon now, gotta play the same
game, unfortunately.
I mean, it's exhausting, and I'mglad I'm not in it that way to
do it because honestly, I don'tI don't have the wherewithal for
all of that.
I have it to tell everybody elseto do it.
How about that?
Oh, oh come on, let's go into afun one here.

(48:20):
I love this one.
I just, I just, I just love it.
I love it.
Here's um, I'm not even gonna beable to read it on here if uh if
I can see it.
Yeah, I can see it.
So I'll read it for anybody whois um listening and not
watching.
Uh, President Trump had put outa tweet or a truth social.
Uh, he said any documents signedby sleepy Joe Biden with the
auto pen, which wasapproximately 92% of them, is

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hereby terminated and of nofurther force or effect.
The auto pen is not allowed tobe used if approval is not
specifically given by thepresident of the United States.
The radical left lunaticcircling Biden around the
beautiful resolute desk in theOval OSS office took the
presidency away from him.
I am hereby canceling allexecutive orders and anything

(49:02):
else that was not directlysigned by Corcad Joe Biden
because the people who operatedthe auto pen did so illegally.
Joe Biden was not involved inthe autopen process.
And if he says that he was, hewill be brought up on charges of
perjury.
Thank you for your attention tothis matter.
I like how he ends every thankyou for your attention to this

(49:23):
matter.
Um, yeah, woo.
Um, so he says in his tweet, I'mjust gonna call it a tweet,
guys.
Um, he says effectiveimmediately.
I I I had questions as towhether can he do that?
How like how much has this been,I I guess, investigated?
Like you would have to gothrough each and every single
one and done all of those likecomparisons of like where Biden

(49:47):
was at the time of the signing,you know, all of the things.
So I I guess if they've donethat for every single one of
these, I guess he was within hispower to do it.
I mean, I guess he can't say itunless he's within his power to
do it, right?

SPEAKER_06 (49:59):
Well, so because none of them are law and they
were all executive orders, um,he can do it at his discretion.
My my only curiosity in this iscommutation of sentences.
Um, so pardons and commutationof sentence.
So if he pardons someone orcommuted their sentence who was

(50:21):
in prison and is now rescindingthose, are those people going
back to jail?
That's that is my my number onequestion, right?
The legality of all of the restof it, I mean, you can overturn
executive orders anytime youwant.
I mean, that's why law is theway to go, right?
You always want those things tobe made into law because then
you've got Congress's backing.

SPEAKER_01 (50:42):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (50:43):
Um, but anything else, if it's just signed by the
president, then the nextpresident can undo it.
It's that's you know, that's howwe've been playing the game for
a little while.
But the the pardons and thecommuting of sentences is the
one that I am very curious aboutbecause there's probably some
folks right now who got let outof jail or or you know, whatever
who and I'm not talking aboutthe Millie and the Fauci and the

(51:04):
entire Biden family who got thepre-pardons, yeah, even though
they didn't do anything wrong.
Um, not them, but the folks whoactually were uh pardoned or had
their sentence commuted who werein prison.
Um like how does that work?
Because there's some folks rightnow that are like packing their
stuff and heading to Mexico toget out of here.
Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (51:25):
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's there there's aa lot to unpack with that
technically.
Like, there's so much going onwith that.
Like you mentioned Fauci and theBiden crime family and all of
them with the pre-pardons.
So that's all null and void,too.
So now can they be charged andprosecuted for things?
So yes, that's a yes.
Okay, uh awesome.
Um, so does that mean we'regonna be seeing subcharges

(51:47):
coming up soon?
I mean, who knows, right?

SPEAKER_06 (51:50):
Yeah, I I wouldn't hold my breath on a lot of it.
I I think um, you know, theFauci is probably high on the
list, although it would be toughto probably prove a lot of
things, although it probablywouldn't be tough to prove some
of it, um, or at least enoughfor a court of law and a
conviction, because they're notgonna put him on the stand
without a conviction, um,knowing that they're gonna get a

(52:10):
conviction out of it.
Um the January 6th stuff, it'llbe interesting to see how that
plays out.
Um, you know, and the pre-pardonor the pardons for Hunter and
their and and Joe's brother andeverybody else um for things
that they hadn't done.
Um, you know, that's all just II think that's happily making
all of them very, very nervous.
Um, it will probably also well,maybe not because he's not that

(52:32):
smart, but it'll probably getHunter to shut up.
Probably one of the bigbenefits.
So we'll see.

SPEAKER_08 (52:36):
Yeah, maybe shaken his uh false sense of confidence
there for for a moment.
Yeah um yeah, it it's all reallyinteresting.
And by the way, there was uh, ifnot more than one, there was
just one uh that I saw that anaide who confessed under oath,
under oath said, yeah, Iabsolutely uh use the auto pen.
So I mean you're you there arepeople concretely saying, yep,

(53:00):
used it, you know, without uhBiden being around.
So like this is concrete.
This is real, guys.
It's a real deal.
And uh one of the things I keepseeing everybody, not everybody,
uh people on the left say is youknow, complaining that
everybody, all presidents haveused the auto.
As long as the autopen hasexisted, presidents have used

(53:20):
it.
So what's the big deal?
Why can't we kind of missing thepoint, guys, right?
Like you're kind of missing thepoint.
All the presidents have used it,not their aides, not their son,
not their wife, not their bestfriend, not some janitor from up
the street who came by to usethe feather.
I don't like you're kind ofmissing the point here, folks.
And I don't know why that theykeep trying to run with that

(53:42):
angle of it.
Like, yes, we know nobody isdisputing presidents using the
autopen for signatures.
There's I think the problem iseverybody else using it in his
name.

SPEAKER_06 (53:51):
Yeah, without tacit authorization, which is the
case, right?
We've talked about this becauseyou know, I ran one of those
things.
I I you know very well.
And and so that's thedifference, is it's they were
literally without him beingaround, aware, giving
authorization for.
There were people literallywalking into the Oval Office or
wherever they had the pen um andusing it um, you know, like it

(54:14):
was daddy's credit card.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, and that's where theproblem lies.

SPEAKER_08 (54:19):
Yeah.
Oh my goodness.
So yeah, that's uh I'm I have afeeling we'll be talking about
this many times more because uhat least I'm actually hoping
that we'll be talking about itmany times more, uh, you know,
with updates on all of that.
So fingers crossed on that one.
Uh let's really quickly just uhtouch on this real super quick.
Um we are our time is almost up,but uh this, you know, I mean,

(54:39):
this has been such a headshakerfrom from day one, right?
And for me, it's been the um theadoration that's been heaped on
this unibrowed young man whomurdered a family man in broad
daylight um and cowardly shothim in the back of the head,
basically.
Um but he's back in the newsagain because they're they're

(55:00):
trying to uh his defense team istrying to strike anything that
he said uh because uh uh duringhis arrest, because uh they're
claiming his Miranda rightsweren't read to him.
Is that correct?
Is that about the gist of it?

SPEAKER_06 (55:14):
Well, that and then everything that he had with him
as um, you know, I think theycaught what is it, uh poison
fruit, whatever it is.
Um so yeah, so you know the copswent in, they arrested him at
the White Castle or wherever hewas.
Yeah.
Um, and and then so in his, youknow, in his backpack was
evidence that is being so folks,there there's you know three

(55:37):
different kinds of discovery umtrials that go on or court
appearances that go on.
And right now, in one of these,you know, appearances, pretrial
appearances, his defense team istrying to have a bunch of
evidence stricken and not beingnot being used in the actual
trial as it progresses.
The scary part is is that thiswas a year ago, it was almost a
year ago.
And he we still like this iswhere we're at.

(56:00):
It's just at the very beginningstages of the trial process.
So um this is a good benchmarkfor people to see and hear is
you know, this was a year ago,right?
Um and this is where we're at.
So speedy trial is not a thing.
Um and and so um, you know, it'sshameful that it's taken this
long because the family of theCEO that was killed deserves

(56:20):
better.
Um, but uh, you know, this isunfortunately where we're at
right now.
So hopefully um the judges willmove quickly on this and we can
get this kid in the courtroom uhand uh, you know, in my opinion,
convict him and give him thechair.

SPEAKER_08 (56:32):
Yes, yes, let's hope so.
Uh let's end on, I mean, Iwouldn't necessarily call it a
lighter note because it's youknow, it's a little crazy.
Black Friday stuff is always alittle bit crazy, but uh
obviously Black Friday was um uhalways a big deal, right?
Record spending, however, recorddepth.
So I guess the um the big to-doabout this is that you know
they're reporting recordspending, but it's not

(56:55):
necessarily that people arebuying more, buying rates not as
like everything costs more, soit looks like it's more, and
people are you know going intomore debt, which to be honest
with you, doesn't feel anydifferent than any other year of
holiday spending, right?
But um they're they're making ita big deal, I guess.

SPEAKER_06 (57:13):
Yeah, the projection was it was gonna be a colossal
failure.
Yeah.
And then it turned around, andand you're right, um, it all
depends on how you look at it,but it there was more money
spent.
Um, there's more spending onthis Black Friday than there has
been on any other record for fordollars you know spent that day,
which I guess is uh you know areflection of the economy or
what at least people are willingto spend or have available to

(57:36):
spend.
So um while yes, they may havegotten less for their dollar,
uh, which is entirely possible,um, they were willing to spend
more money uh on Black Friday.
So um we'll see, but you know,the odd part is that Black
Friday, I I think the factwhat's not being factored into
this is the fact that BlackFriday now lasts for like two
weeks.

SPEAKER_03 (57:54):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 (57:55):
That day, I don't know how they how they compiled
all of this dollar spent.
Was it just that 24-hour period?
You know, because now you'vegot, you know, it used to be
what was it, like stores wereopening on Thanksgiving night
and it was exactly.

SPEAKER_08 (58:06):
Yeah, it was like open, you know, some open on
like midnight, and some at likeratcheted back, which is good, I
think.

SPEAKER_06 (58:12):
You know, we're kind of giving people actual
holidays.
Yes.
Amazon started doing BlackFriday the week before.
So, you know, who knows what allthis means other than the fact
that uh the Dems are upset.
So that tells me something goodhappened out of it.

SPEAKER_08 (58:23):
Absolutely.
That's like the marker rightthere.
Or who's who's angry about it?
Like who's angry about it?
Oh, okay.
Now I now I know how to feelabout this.
It'll be the opposite.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I I feel like I likelike you just said, I feel like
I've been Black Friday shoppingsince you know two weeks ago,
probably.
Amazon.
Amazon is doing everything, youknow, a million times.

(58:44):
Yes, I know, blah, blah, blah.
Amazon.
I don't don't come for me forshopping Amazon.
I love my Amazon.
I don't even care that you don'tlike Amazon.
Don't shop there.

SPEAKER_06 (58:51):
Yeah, books are on Amazon.

SPEAKER_08 (58:52):
Exactly.
So remind.
Like, listen, you know, Amazonbasically owns me and I'm okay
with it.
You know, I just I there thereare just too many things to be
pressed about, and that's notone of them for me.
If it's for you, by all means,don't don't shop in there.
I don't know what to tell you,people.
I just don't.
I mean, everybody's got to bemad about something all the darn
time.
Not me though.
Not me.
I'm gonna be a happy littlecamper here, happy little

(59:14):
shopper.
Once I get off of here, I'mgonna go shopping again right
now.
I don't care.
Oh my goodness.
All right.
Well, we did it.
We um we actually, yes, wesqueezed those last one really,
really fast, but um, we did wantto at least touch on them so
that when we hit on them again alittle bit later, you'll you'll
know why.
Um, I think that's all I got,Clay.
Go ahead and you cycle off, dothe things.

SPEAKER_06 (59:36):
Yeah, we're we're happy to be back.
Uh it's good to take the weekoff for Thanksgiving.
We we deserve that.
You deserve it too, and uhThanksgiving to everybody and
happy holiday season.
And we're happy to be back, andit'll be Christmas before you
know it.
And uh as for me, always keepshooting.

SPEAKER_07 (59:50):
Take care, guys.

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