Corruption, Chaos, Cancer: The Headlines They Hope You'll Ignore

Clay and Elsa dive deep into former President Biden's late-stage prostate cancer diagnosis, examining the suspicious timing and implications for his presidency.

• Biden's cancer diagnosis raises questions about who was really making decisions during his presidency
• Jake Tapper's new book reveals media complicity in covering up Biden's decline
• CBS News leadership crumbling after Trump's lawsuit forces accountability 
• Bernie Sanders admits Democratic Party is "a threat to democracy" and has been fixing primaries since 2008
• Russia-Ukraine peace talks show Trump's different approach to foreign policy
• Four-star Navy Admiral faces 30 years for contract bribery scheme
• Mexican naval training ship accident kills two cadets at Brooklyn Bridge
• New Orleans prison break shows ongoing security failures in Democrat-run cities

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Elsa Kirk Show with Clay Novak serving up
trending news and conservativeviews brought to you by the Elsa
Kirk Collection and RefugeMedical.
And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, hey, there it's another week, another party in
the headlines.
How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm good.
You and I had a little bit of abeating this week, you know, in
the social media world, butthat's okay, We'll talk about
that.
That's one of our that'sprobably our first and biggest
topic.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Talk about former President Biden and the cancer
diagnosis.
We got a bunch to talk about,so you're good.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm good.
I am good, good to go.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
OK, well, let's get started then.
Tonight Biden's cancerbombshell, cbs News and Flames,
and Bernie finally admits theDemocrats are the real threat to
democracy.
We've got a Mexican warshipcrashing into the Brooklyn
Bridge, a prison break thatlooks like a Netflix series and
a four-star admiral headed toprison.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh and how about those peace talks.
Let's dive in Woo.
So much to talk about.
You know, before we started,clay was absolutely right.
He said just our first topicalone.
We could probably talk theentire hour about, right.
I mean, this one is so manylayers to this right, so many
layers of thoughts on this.

(01:34):
Clay, go ahead, tell them howwe got beat up, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
So you know I'll talk about how I got beat up first
and then we'll talk about you.
So well, you know Elsa forthose of you that don't follow
us on social media, you should.
Elsa posted something about thediagnosis from former President
Biden on his prostate cancerand there were some people
chiming in and I chimed in and Isaid I called it that

(01:58):
essentially that he wouldn'tlast more than a year after the
election before he passed away.
And that was a prediction I hadmade, I think, probably in
around the time that he backedout of the race and handed it
over to Vice President Harris.
But I knew his health was bad.
A lot of us knew his health wasbad, but I made the prediction
that he wouldn't have made it ayear.
And I got beat up for being aheartless, horrible human being,

(02:21):
somehow, because I predicted Iwasn't celebrating the fact that
he's passing away folks.
All I said was I called itbecause I think most of us knew,
or most of us rational peopleknew.
And then, of course, you, elsa,really tried to just bring
light to the topic and got toldthat you hadn't done your
research, which I thought, wasinteresting.

(02:42):
So then she posted a great youknow, listen, I'm not a doctor,
you're not a doctor, 99% of usare not doctors and posted a
pretty simple explanation in acartoon format of what's going
on with the president'sdiagnosis, and then got told
again that she'd oversimplifiedand it wasn't detailed enough
Like she's.
You know, some medical journalresponsibility level kind of

(03:04):
stuff.
So then you brought thereceipts.
Man, holy cow, what do youthink?
First of like, cleaned outWikipedia and every other source
.
You things to me.
I have an extremely thick skin.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You cannot hurt my feelings and you can maybe get
me a little angry, but not whenyou come at me personally
generally.
But there's one thing I takelike tremendous pride and

(03:38):
enjoyment in, which is research.
I am obsessed with learningthings and, because I am on
social media and I put myselfout there on a daily basis,
there's one thing I hate morethan anything and that is to be
wrong.
I don't like being wrong.
So in order to avoid beingwrong, I will do all of the

(04:00):
research I will spend all day.
It's the ADHD thing,hyper-focus.
I will spend all day.
It's the you know, it's theADHD thing, hyper-focus.
I will spend all dayresearching something.
So I am like backed loaded andwhen I don't have a hundred
percent of the answers, Iclarify and I make sure that I
make a point of saying that youknow what I mean.
So I cover all of my bases.
So when someone comes in likeshooting from the hip, and

(04:22):
they're like you didn't do yourresearch, well, you know I'm
about to, I'm going to take myerrands off and we're going to
fight.
You know now it's on.
So yes, that I was definitelyum, to use a left word, I was
triggered, very triggered bythat.
So, like Clay said, I broughtthe receipts and and explained
exactly how I got thisinformation.

(04:42):
And you know, the onlyvalidation that I needed from
what I posted came from oncologynurses, retired oncologists,
people who have had prostatecancer, and every single one of
those people said spot on, thisis exactly correct.
So, joe Schmo, sitting in hisbasement and his underwear in

(05:05):
mommy's basement telling me thatI don't do my research, he can
kind of shove it, you know.
And then, of course, like yousaid, I did, I did this.
You know, a quick, condensedversion to back up what I was
saying.
Like this is where I got it.
Here it is.
And I know and I'm not makingfun of anybody I know my own
attention span, I know ourattention spans for things is

(05:27):
short, so I try and make thisvery quick.
It was probably under 30seconds.
You know, 40 seconds or sovideo and their slides,
basically infographic slidesthat give the bare bones of you
know this whole timeline, blah,blah, blah, that stuff.
And, of course, like you said,that's where the you know you
oversimplified this.
Well, yeah, I did.
You know, thank you fortreating me as your medical

(05:49):
professional.
Okay, all right, so I'm going togive you the kind of the
breakdown here, in case anyonedoesn't know Former President
Biden.
He's 82.
He's been diagnosed withaggressive, late stage prostate
cancer that is metastasized tohis bones.
So here's what we know, or needto know, I guess, basically
about the prostate cancer thatis spread to the bones, that

(06:10):
it's not curable, it's onlytreatable.
So that is where he's at rightnow, and why this matters is
because this is an early stage.
It likely developed years agoand the timing of the disclosure
, which is post-presidencyobviously, has raised a lot of
red flags for a lot of people,including yours truly and I'm

(06:33):
going to speak for you, clay, aswell, you know.
So there's a lot of questionshere and to answer the question
that you keep hearing, or atleast I keep hearing from the
left, is what does it matteranymore?
Let the poor man be.
He's, you know he's, he's sick,he's dying.
Basically, leave him alone.
It doesn't matter anymorebecause he's not the president.
Oh heck, yeah, it matters.

(06:54):
It matters a whole lot, becausethat opens up all of these
questions, right, clay?
Who used the auto pen?
We've been used.
We've been asking that questionnow for a while.
Who used the auto pen?
We've been asking that questionnow for a while.
Are those?
Is anything that he did like?
Let me just sum it up Isanything that he did in his
presidency, particularly thelate years, the last years, is

(07:14):
it valid?
Who was really making thesedecisions?
It's like widely admitted nowthat he was so infirm, he was so
not with it that he wasbasically incapable of doing
anything.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
So I mean, that's the biggest thing right and well,
and so again, you said timing,and so you know the timing of
this in relation to the releaseof the her recordings which, if
you heard those, are jarring.
Right, you've got recordings ofPresident Biden not remembering
that his son, beau, had died.
You've got him not rememberingyears, not remembering important

(07:54):
years, years of election yearsand things like that.
They're very confused, right.
So you've got that.
That's evidence to his mentalacuity, or lack thereof, while
he was in office.
You've also got the release.
So that just happened.
Then you've got now the JakeTapper book coming out, right,
original Sin, which is about thecoverup of the decline of

(08:15):
President Biden that Jake Tapperwas a part of all.
Right, as a member of the media.
He is complicit in this.
It aims a lot at the media, butit also aims at the White House
, the staffers, jill Biden,among others.
You know his his you knowhorrific son.
You know, and everybodyincluded.
Now Tapper, by himself, hastaken all kinds of crap from

(08:38):
everybody about this.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, your girl.
Megan gave him a good what foryour girl.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Megan gave him a good what for?
Jon Stewart went after him.
There's a whole lot of you know.
It's like you know this is aguy from the media telling you
that the media didn't give youthe news they were supposed to
give you a year after they gaveit to you or didn't give it to
you that he should have donehimself Like.
This is so convoluted, it's noteven funny.
It's a massive hypocrisy.
So you've got those two things,but you've also got the

(09:03):
Democrat, the DNC, the party asa whole.
They want president Biden to goaway Every time he appears in
public, every time he sayssomething publicly.
It is a problem that they haveto deal with.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Right.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
So you've got all of this, and then the timing in
relation to the last election.
Okay, yeah, I have said thisbefore, I've said this a number
of times had he gotten elected,he would have immediately
resigned and handed the reinsoff to Vice President Harris
Right, that was that to me, thatwas the plan.
Yes, then he could give herthree and a half years as

(09:39):
president Right Non-elected, andthen have her run again and
again, potentially for 15 and ahalf years in office, twice
elected, once appointed, and Ithink that that was part of the
plan.
I actually thought that wasgoing to happen early in his
first term, early in the firstterm, not into the second term,
but regardless.
The plan stayed the same.
I would tell you there'sincluding me.

(10:01):
When this first came out, Iquestion if it was even a real
diagnosis.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Interesting yes, I've heard that.
Actually, I've heard people saythat as well.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
And I had people ask me well, what does he gain out
of a fake cancer diagnosis?
The same thing he gains out ofa real cancer diagnosis.
Yeah distraction, Sympathy yeahsympathy distraction.
Immediately sequestered from themedia, never has to answer a
question again, ever, never,again.
Never appears in public, neverappears in the media, never has
to answer for what's in Tapper'sbook.
The Democrats are alreadysaying don't hold him

(10:31):
accountable for anything.
He can't be questioned.
You know a cancer diagnosis hasa lot more, I think, honorable.
You know a lot more sympathy,empathy than a dementia
diagnosis Right, which is whateverybody assumes.
So you know people.
You know it's that old, likeyou know she's got cancer right

(10:52):
and whisper.
Nobody wants to say it out loud, but there's a lot to be gained
out of this diagnosis, real orfake, and and so yeah, it's.
But the certainty in all of itis if it is a real diagnosis.
This is not new news.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
No, no, no, it's entirely not.
And you know, as always, Clay,I'm so stunned and amazed at the
, you know, liberal, leftistminions.
You know the everyday peoplewho are still, even with
everything being dropped intheir lap from their own people,
Jake Tapper, from their ownpeople, saying yeah, we lied,

(11:34):
Whoops, my bad.
They're still making excuses,justifications, you know, trying
to shame anyone who dares tosay, hang on a second here,
Something's kind of funny.
You know, trying to shameanyone who dares to say, hang on
a second here, Something's kindof funny, you know.
And they try to use their shametactics, which are not working,
by the way, left, that's done.

(11:54):
Nobody cares, Nobody caresabout your feelings, your pearl
clutching, your gasping, None ofit Don't care.
And because normal people,people with fully functioning
brains, know that you canactually feel compassion for
someone and feel bad for whatthey're going through, and still
expect accountability andconsequences for bad, illegal,

(12:16):
wrong behavior and actions.
It is as simple as that.
You're not getting a passbecause, guess what, that that
woman and I'm sorry that I don'tknow her name, the, the uh
elderly woman or not elderly,older woman, uh, who had cancer,
the J sixer was, yeah, you know, he didn't give her any
sympathy.
So I'm not an eye for an eyeguy, I'm really not.
But let's just make a littlecomparison here.

(12:38):
So don't ask for too muchsympathy here that it cancels
out what's right and it reallyis as simple as that.
And I'm going to go back to JakeTapper for a second.
He had to and I'm asking youI'm saying it like a statement,
but I'm asking you he had tohave known he was going to get a
lot of flack for this right andhe did it anyway.

(12:58):
What's the motive there?
I mean, is it just greed?
Is it that he doesn't care?
Is it that he's looking tochange directions?
What do you think is going onwith that?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So it's, it's about book sales.
That's all it is.
And really he he knows he's nothe's only going to sell this
book in limited numbers toconservatives, right?
Right, he's going to sell this.
Now he's going to sell it in inhigher numbers, right, because

(13:27):
at the same time that he isrevealing all of these secrets
that all of us normal peoplealready knew, he's also bashing
the media as a whole, right?
So now it appeals to adifferent audience.
He knows that if he sellsenough copies of this book, he
can walk away from CNN and itdoesn't matter.
He can go on the speakingcircuit, he can do those million

(13:48):
dollars at a college kind ofthing and never have to worry
about it.
So I think it's all about booksales.
I don't think he really caresabout you know, his reputation
within the media circles andhonestly I think that his he
doesn't care about the hypocrisyeither.
No, clearly, right, clearlydoesn't care.
Call me a hypocrite, buy mybook.

(14:09):
That's probably where he's atin his life right now and you
know it is what it is.
So he's not an ethical man,clearly.
So for all of us to beexpecting him to be concerned
about public opinion or any ofthe rest of that stuff is a
fool's errand, because hedoesn't care.
He didn't care about coveringup the president, he didn't care

(14:29):
, he doesn't care.
So, um, all he wants you to dois buy his book.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, and I'll.
I'll even go so far as to givehim, uh, even more diabolical
credit, uh, and say that he andI don't.
I don't watch him, I've neverlistened to him.
I've only heard a few soundbites of his, most recently with
Megyn Kelly.
I find him thoroughly,completely unlikable smug,

(14:54):
arrogant, condescending, all ofthe things, flat out liar,
obviously nothing redeeming.
So I will also credit him with.
He's probably very smart andsees the writing on the wall for
mainstream media and heprobably is, you know, one of
those guys that is just gonna,you know, or has lit the match,

(15:15):
tossed it and and walked away asas everything explodes behind
him.
And you know, I don't thinkhe's alone in that.
I can't give you any, you knowany, for instances, who else is
doing that?
But I would say he's a perfectexample of people who, you know,
see that the ship is sinkingand they're bailing and they're
going to go in a totallydifferent direction, right.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
He's Don Lamont.
I mean it's you know.
You know, lemon kind of burnedall the bridges on his way out
the door and he thought that hewas going to make it as a, as a
podcaster.
Hey, let me tell you somethingfolks, very few people are
making money off a podcast,unless your name is Joe Rogan or
Theo Vaughn.
That's about it.
But you know, I think you'reright.
That's really a great reach onthis is that CNN itself, let

(16:00):
alone the entire left-leaningmedia, cnn's dying, and whenever
it is, the Tapper's contractwith them is up.
They may not even be able toafford to pay him what he's
being paid now, so might as welluse the platform while he can
sell as many books as he canwhile he's there and then
prepare himself to move on tosomething bigger and better in

(16:21):
his eyes and in the meantime,just not care what people think
about him.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's the case.
And you know, I hope he, I hopehe crashes and burns the same
way Don Lemon has.
I really do, you know, I just,I just, I just hate to see awful
people succeed.
I really do, and I know ithappens all the darn time.
You know people succeed, Ireally do, and I know it happens

(16:47):
all the darn time.
You know they just reinventthemselves publicly and they're
still the same slimy snakeunderneath the nice shiny suit.
But we'll see.
We'll see what he does.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Let's go back to the president real quick, president
Biden.
So you know a couple morethings about this diagnosis.
One don't be you know, don't besurprised, or don't you know
put, don't ignore the idea thatthis is potentially a
distraction, like you saidearlier, for something
completely different.
Right, this could be the shinyobject over here, while

(17:16):
something else is going on overhere by the DNC.
Completely right, this could bean absolute distraction.
It could be a distraction totake attention away from good
things that President Trump isdoing.
It could be a distraction totake away attention from
anything else really that theywanted to.
So it could be that.
And then I think the otherthing is they really believe

(17:38):
that the sympathy from this willgarner a like.
Okay, we're just going to washaway the sins right.
Just let everything pass, and Ithink that they honestly believe
that if President Biden gets apass on everything, then
everybody associated with himwill also get a pass.
They don't do an investigationout of sympathy on, let's just

(18:00):
say, the auto pen, right?
Oh, clearly, president Biden,he was incapable, we can't do.
He gave people the code,whatever it was, we can't do.
He gave people the code,whatever it was, we can't.
You know, we're not gonnainvestigate him.
He's dying of cancer.
And then this 72,000 instancesof using the auto pen suddenly
go away.
Listen, nobody has to convict,even prosecute President Biden

(18:21):
to hold people accountable, likeyou said, for those actions.
So they are already campaigningto be like just let it all go.
Yeah, oh, absolutely Let it go.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
And yeah, we'll let him go, he can go, I mean we're
actually as fine as we can bewith that, like life has taken
care of him in the way that I'mhis bitch, you know.
Yeah, I mean oof, I mean, yeah,his very existence, the very
human that he was throughout hislifetime, which is a really

(18:53):
garbage human.
And I can cite plenty ofinstances going back to his wife
and son, wife and son, the caraccident and what he did to that
poor man that was responsiblefor the accident.
What he did to that man isunbelievable.
I'm going to leave it at that.
You can go research it yourself, guys, but none of it is

(19:16):
excusable.
So there needs to be a kind ofjust because he's basically
going to get off the hook, as weknow he is we already, we all
know this like nothing's goingto happen to Joe Biden.
They are going to let him liveout his days with ice cream on
the beach.
You know every day, all daylong, that's what he's going to
be doing.
It is what it is.
But everybody else involvedthat the actual puppet masters,

(19:38):
jill.
I would love to see Jill Bidenin jail.
That would make me very happy.
I think she is an absolutelyabhorrent human.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Even more so than we thought, I think.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
That is a great glimpse at what money, power,
greed, what it does to a person.
I tell you I was thinking a lotabout this.
You always think about whenyou're just an average regular
person.
You think about what the otherlife is like and I generally
don't care.
But you know, you think aboutin that philosophical way.

(20:12):
You're like geez to to have allof that, to be so free to do
whatever it is that you wantbecause you have unlimited money
and access and all of thesethings.
And I look at people like thatand I'm like you know what you
can have it Like it's reallygross what it does to people.
So I'd rather, I'd rather be anot have than a have if it, if

(20:33):
that's what it does to you andthat's not, you know, for
everybody.
You look at the Trump family.
These are, you know about, asfine, upstanding people as you
can, you can get.
They're all productive,contributing.
You know humans in society andthey have more money than they
could possibly know what to dowith.
So it's a character thing.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
You know who just lost out on a whole bunch of
money?
The former president and CEO ofCBS News.
Yeah, she did, yes.
Yeah, I mean, this is WendyMcMahon is her name, and this
goes back, folks.
The you know the Kamala Harris60 minutes interview, right?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Right, yeah, I mean, this is the origin, right.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Right.
So it goes back to that whichwe all know was doctored, right.
You know it was re -edited, shewas given opportunities to
re-answer questions, you know,and president Trump sued the
network.
For what is it?
$20 billion, $20 billion yep.
And so Paramount, who owns CBS,you know, has basically said

(21:37):
we're not fighting this becausewe know even the optics are bad,
so they're not going to fightit.
Last week it went intoarbitration or into mediation,
so they're going to settle outof court on this thing, which I
know technically is not anadmission of guilt.
I get that.
However, it doesn't look good.
So anyway, you know, Ms WendyMcMahon, president and CEO of

(21:58):
CBS News, said we are not doingthis.
I don't support this.
If you guys do this atParamount, if you do this, I'm
resigning.
And Paramount looked at her andsaid go ahead.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And she really was kind of.
They called her, they calledher bluff.
So she resigned.
I don't know how much she wasmaking.

(22:19):
I'm assuming the president andCEO of CBS News makes a decent
amount of money.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, she was probably getting a good chunk of
change.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
So this is also I forgot about this until I was
looking, you know, doing someresearch they also had Bill
Owens, who's the executiveproducer of 60 Minutes, resigned
in April.
So you know, this is a lot ofupheaval, for really, what is
CBS's anchor show, cbs News'sanchor show of 60 Minutes?
So you've had the executiveproducer and now the president
and CEO, both based on the samelawsuit from President Trump.

(22:52):
Because Bill Owens said thesame thing.
He said listen, paramount isgoing to come down.
They basically gave him someguidance and said listen, we're
going to run this a lot cleanerthan we have.
It's going to be less editorialand more news.
And Owens, who had been therefor a long time, was like that's
not how I run things.
And they said we don't care,that's how we're running things.
And he did the same thing.
He said I'm leaving and hebailed.
So that's a bit of a mess.

(23:14):
So that's now two lawsuits.
Right, that President Trumpagainst the media is coming out
on top.
Do you see a massive change inmainstream media, at least maybe
from the legacy networks?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, massive change in mainstream media, at least
maybe from the legacy networks.
Yeah, I mean, I think this isdefinitely a sign of the shift
that's happening.
They're seeing the writing.
Some of them are well, let merephrase that, they're all
seeing the writing on the wall.
It's whether or not they'regoing kicking and screaming or
leading the charge, basically tomake the change so that they
can pretend that they were.
You know, we weren't involvedwith any of that.

(23:49):
You know, we're not those guys.
We're.
You know, and those are thesmart ones.
Those will be the smart onesbecause if you get ahead of this
, if you're a Jake Tapper andyou are getting ahead of this in
whatever way you choose, youprobably will end up okay.
But the structure and thebehaviors of legacy media, or
alphabet media, as I prefer tocall them, this, this is the,

(24:13):
this is the shift.
It's beginning and it could nothave come at a better time.
They can't get away with itanymore, you know.
And, of course but you knowagain, I always bring it back
around to what's going on in theminds of the left and of course
, they are going to be kickingand screaming and and you know,
probably protesting things,because that's what they do

(24:34):
right, that this is some kind ofcensorship and this is.
You know they're.
They're going to call it all ofthose things and and I don't
care what they call it, call itwhatever you want.
You know you paint that picturehowever it makes you feel
better in your little corner.
You know, the fact is is thisis what you know I've been
harping on and so many of ushave been harping on for so long

(24:56):
that we want accountability inmedia, and I know you may have
been the one I'm going to giveyou credit with with this,
because I feel like it was aclayism way back once upon a
time when we talked about this.
I feel like it was a clayismway back once upon a time when
we talked about this that youknow it's not going to be by
legislation.
You really don't want governmentinvolved in media like that.
I mean, we saw what happened.

(25:17):
They changed the narrative ofthe entire country for an
election cycle through socialmedia.
You know.
So we knew we don't.
We wouldn't want to see thathappen the government stepping
in and making them do things ornot do things.
What we wanted to see, or whatwe needed to see, was things
like massive lawsuits.
You know that we're going tobasically cut them off at the

(25:38):
knees, where they couldn't fightthat.
And you know it happens to bePresident Trump that led the
charge on the lawsuits, and I'mthrilled for that.
Listen, if he didn't have a legto stand on, none of this would
be happening.
So you know, don't, nobodyshould be fooled, because in the
proof of that is you could talkabout the Supreme court not
always siding with him, you know.

(25:58):
So nobody can really argue anyof these things that it's
because he's the president andhe's abusing his power.
And you know this is a um, uh,a government overreach, or you
know, whatever they're going totry and throw at this Um, no,
this, this is the accountabilitythat we've been um, demanding,
finally starting to happen.
And yeah, they're, they got a,they got a wild ride ahead of

(26:19):
them.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Listen, you, you and I have said this a number of
times we are not reporters,right, this is all editorial,
all of it.
Right, we take a topic, wepresent some facts associated
with the topic, you and Iprovide our opinions on the
topic, right, and all it is isto give things people something
to think about, right, maybe adiscussion point.

(26:42):
That's what we're doing.
We are not reporting the news.
The problem is is that the newssources and this is a prime
case, right, 60 Minutes, thisinterview, vice President Harris
, running for president, waspresented as news, as truthful
as an interview, unedited,unaltered, blah, blah, blah,

(27:04):
blah.
And then it turned out not tobe true.
And the news itself from legacymedia, from the streaming
sources, whatever, right, hasbecome so editorialized, so
opinionized.
You don't know what is the newsand what isn't the news.
Right, and that's whyindependent journalism is back
on the rise is because peopledon't trust mainstream media,

(27:25):
and this is an example of that.
So, yes, people are.
People are voting with theirfeet.
We know that.
You know, mainstream media isnot being paid attention to like
it had in the past.
Ratings are in a dumpster rightnow, and it's because of their
conduct.
So, you know, this is the waythat changes their conduct and
it changes how they report, youknow, as the fourth, you know,

(27:48):
arm of the government, you know.
Then so be it.
I think this is the changethat's required.
We do all just have to becareful that doesn't swing in
the opposite direction.
We don't want the governmentinvolved in media.
This is why PBS and NPR, likethat stuff's going away because
the government was too involvedin the messaging over those
networks.
So we don't want that.

(28:09):
So we've got to make sure thatthe pendulum doesn't go swing in
the other direction.
We've got to make sure that wedon't have, you know, like the
old Soviet days where theycontrolled the media, kind of
stuff.
We don't need that.
We just want better, cleaner,more honest reporting.
And folks listen.
Fox News is biased too.
Okay, of course, absolutelythey listen.
Fox News is biased too.

(28:30):
I watch Gutfeld.
He makes me laugh.
Actually, his guests make melaugh more than he does.
I don't like Jesse WatersHannity.
I can only take him in smalldoses for the exact same reason,
because it is biased news andagain, I'm cautious calling that
news.
So I'm glad these things arehappening.
You know, cbs just is bearingthe brunt of it right now.

(28:50):
I do give Ms McMahon a littlebit of credit fora, little bit
of courage to say listen, if youdo this I'm leaving.
Paramount said so good for herfor standing up for her
principles, as misguided as theymay be.
But you know, good honor.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, I completely agree.
Do you think you know?
The next phase of that is ishow do you think the media,
particularly obviously legacymedia, mainstream media, do you
think this is going this enoughof a slap on the hands that

(29:27):
they're not going to do thisstuff anymore, this manipulation
, whatever, what, or is it alldepend on?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
They'll be more careful about it.
For sure, it will definitely dothat.
But I think as a whole, I thinkyou will see a shift.
I think you will see adifferent.
I don't know exactly how, but Ithink you'll see a difference.
It's not going to be WalterCronkite, I can tell you.
I don't know exactly how, but Ithink you'll see a difference.
It's not going to be WalterCronkite, I can tell you, but
you're going to see a differenttype of reporting.
I think in the nextpresidential election cycle In

(29:56):
three years, when it kicks off,you will see a very different
style of media coverage and thatwill evolve over time.
But yes, this is a slap heardaround the world and they're
going to all take it seriouslybecause they can't afford $20
billion, right?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
No, not these days for sure.
Maybe once upon a time, but notthese days, not anymore.
Yeah, you know, I think there'sprobably one thing I would like
to believe, that there's onething that, whether you're on
the left or the right, that Ithink we can all agree that we
just really want unbiased news.
Like just give me what thefacts are.

(30:33):
Like it makes me want to swear,it makes me so angry, like all
I actually want is the facts.
Don't tell me how to feel, ordon't try, and you know, sway,
how I feel about it.
Tell me what the facts are, letme process that and think about
what that means to me and how,how I feel about it, without you
telling me how to feel about it.
Tell me what the facts are, letme process that and think about
what that means to me and how,how I feel about it, without you
telling me how to feel about itor implying how I should feel
about it and that's it.

(30:55):
Like I feel.
Like I mean, please if the oneperson on the left is watching
this tell me you agree with methat all you want is the truth.
You know, I don't want his sideor his side or her side.
I don't give a crap aboutanybody's side of things.
I want the actual facts andtruth period.
I mean, am I crazy, clay?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
No, but, and I will say this opinion pieces are fine
.
I have no problem with that, aslong as it's not presented as
fact, right?
There used to be the whole.
Nobody reads a newspaperanymore, right?
The whole editorial page, right, I think?
Now, what you get online andwhen you're looking at it on
your phone, it's probably notthe clearest thing in the world,

(31:36):
but there are usually like thislittle red square that says
opinion, right, most peopledon't pay attention to or, after
they see it, they don't, youknow, they disregard it.
But when it comes to networknews reporting, there is no
flash across the bottom of thescreen that says editorial or
opinion or anything like that.
You just have reporters, andyou know, to me, for decades,

(32:00):
george Stephanopoulos has beenthe worst of the worst.
But that's what you get, is youget opinion versus news, and
that you're right.
That's not what we want.
We just want the facts.
We're grownups, we'll figure itout and we don't have to be
spoon fed opinion.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
So right, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, if you want
to watch, you know?
Oh well, gutfeld is a greatexample, any show like that, or
the five or any of those youknow.
They're like I said, they'regiving opinions on news stories.
Excuse me, you know, that'sfine, that's great.
Label it as as such, Right?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, what do we got next?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Sorry, I'm trying not to like joke.
Today, elsa's having a day here.
Oh, let's see.
Let's move on to this guy.
Russia, russia, russia.
I don't know why I have to sayit like that every time.
I can't help it.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's okay, you're a Brady Bunch kid, I get it, I am,
I am.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
I'm the Brady Bunch era.
I just have to.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
You're the bottom window, it's okay.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, exactly, yes, oh.
So yeah, russia-ukraine peacetalks are underway, or were
underway.
Russia's open to ceasefirebased on current battle lines.
Ukraine isn't agreeing unlessterritory is returned.
This is kind of more your area.
Give me your thoughts andopinions on that.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
So you know, President Trump has said from
the get go, and even during hiscampaign, that he wants this war
to end, because he wantskilling to end.
Right, and, and truthfully, hedoesn't believe in investing any
money in this.
And being who he is Right USmoney, nato money nobody should
be investing in this becauseit's a waste and and oh, by the
way, it's a waste of human livesand he just wants it to end.

(33:41):
He's been very, very clearabout that, which is also why
he's not really taking sides.
He did spend two hours on thephone with President Putin and
came off the phone and saidlisten, he's sick of the killing
too, he's sick and tired of thedying.
He wants the war over with.
So now what we're doing isstepping back to an extent and

(34:02):
forcing the issue ofUkraine-Russia direct peace
talks with no US influence,interference, mediation, any of
the rest of that stuff.
Let them figure it out.
Now this is where kind of therubber meets.
The road in this thing is youknow who's willing to give up
what, and you know Zelenskydoesn't have a lot of room to

(34:25):
maneuver on this.
He really doesn't.
He can say no and he can demandto have Ukraine restored to
what it was, and and theRussians don't have to give it
to him.
He is with us backing outespecially, and really the
position we've taken sincepresident Trump got into office
is he doesn't have a lot of help.
So you know, we were trying toget him to see that, when he

(34:49):
came to the Oval Office and madean ass out of himself, is that
he doesn't have.
That's what President Trumpkept yelling at him was you
don't have the cards, right, youdon't have the cards to make
this deal.
Let me make it for you andlet's get this thing over with.
And so now we're backing outand really making them do it

(35:09):
between the two nations, butZelensky's got nothing to go on.
He has no bargaining chip.
Putin is tired because it'swasting resources and it's
wasting money and it'sdestroying his army, and he's
already leaned on.
You know he's leaned on NorthKorea, which was a weird one.
You know there's some someinfluence with China, although,

(35:30):
by the way, we talked about thislast week right there's the
economic connection between theUS and China.
At this point, with the tariffreduction, you've got the US
renegotiating with OPEC, right,who provides a lot of the you
know a lot of economic influenceinto Russia, including oil, you
know, et cetera.
So you know a lot of economicinfluence into Russia, including

(35:51):
oil, you know, et cetera.
So you know there's a lot ofpush behind Russia to shut this
thing down.
And I think that PresidentTrump is trying something new.
He's trying something different, which is he's not trying to
negotiate the deal, he's justtrying to force the deal to be
negotiated, which is a new anddifferent position for him.
But I think it's pretty smartactually.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
You know, for as little as I know of that world,
it sounds smart.
You know what I mean, becauseyou're talking about, you know,
let's face it, putin is.
You know he's a superpower.
You do have to be careful, youdo have to be strategic in how
you deal with him, with them,with Russia and with China, of
course, and I think PresidentTrump has such a instinctive

(36:35):
understanding of how to dealwith very specific people.
You know he's not treating youknow him the same way he is
treating the South Africanpresident today.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
You know that was a very different.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
I know that's not on our list, but you know it just
happened.
Oh, this is the time stamper,right.
You tell him.
Clay, tell him the timestamperright.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Can you tell them, clay?
Tell them, yeah, it iscurrently Wednesday at 5,
approximately 15 PM on the Eastcoast.
So, yeah, you and I thoughtexactly the same thing.
We forgot to do the timestamp.
But you're right.
You know, the South Africanpresident, you know, was in the
Oval Office today and PresidentTrump handled him like a child.
He literally rolled the TV in,turned the lights down and said
this is you right?
This is the genocide I'mtalking about.

(37:23):
That you're denying is going onright, totally different.
He would never do that to Putin.
He didn't want to do that toZelensky.
Zelensky forced him to becausehe acted like an idiot, right?
So, yeah, you're right.
I think it's smart, I thinkit's very intuitive for him, but
it is not his norm.
You know, he's the action guy.
He wants to be in the middle ofeverything and this time he's

(37:44):
backing away, which, again, Ithink, is out of character, but
incredibly smart.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I only know what I feel, that I observe.
I think this is again a wildlydifferent presidency than was
the last time.
I think he has, of course, theright people around him and I
think he is listening to inputfrom you know people who know
people would have these, theseinsights and answers of how to
deal with very specific peopleand, of course, I think he knows
generally.
But again, I think this is avery cooperative move on his

(38:25):
part in getting a really clearunderstanding of what the next
move should be, and I wouldimagine they are sitting in
those rooms strategizing.
Okay, if we do it like this, ifwe tell you know, if we put the
hammer down and say we'regetting involved in this, let's
play out what's going to happen,I think any, you know.
I mean that's what you, ofcourse, you should be doing, but
that's what I imagine happening, and they probably played out

(38:46):
every scenario here and this isthe one that makes the most
sense.
So, you know, I hope that theydo the right things.
You know, zelensky, I mean bothof them.
You know they are, they are,they're wild cards and and
obviously Trump knows that andhe knows that he can't really
predict what they're going to do, or that they're going to do
what they're saying that they'regoing to do, you know.
So I think that's another partof that right that you know I'm

(39:07):
going to take this very, veryconscious step back for us, the
United States, and say this isyour problem, you better handle
it.
You know, brilliant, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, and he's running it.
We, collectively, the world,are running out of options on
ways to end this other than acomplete.
You know, either a NATO step inas peacekeepers and put the
wedge in between which I don'tadvocate for, but you know
there's that or there's totalvictory.
One way or the other, there'snot a lot of options left, and
very and even fewer, to end thispeacefully.

(39:37):
The other, there's not a lot ofoptions left, and very and even
fewer, to end this peacefully.
So you know, before NATO getsinvolved, or the UN, nato more
likely, I think this is adifferent approach and I like it
.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
So we'll see what happens.
Yeah, all right, let's talkabout something we're not going
to like talking about All right,Listen I?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
this is shameful for the Navy.
So Admiral Robert Burke is hisname.
He is a four-star retired.
He was actually the vice CNO ofthe Navy.
If you don't know what thatmeans, the CNO is the chief of
naval operations, which isequivalent to the chief of staff
.
He is the chief of staff of theNavy, right?
They just use a different termbecause they're sailors, right?

(40:13):
So chief of naval operations isthe chief of staff.
He is the highest ranking navalofficer.
The vice is his second, hisnumber two.
So he was the second highestranking, second most powerful
Navy officer before any of thishappened.
He was also in charge of all oftheir personnel at one point in
time.
I don't know what thesequencing of that was, but he
was in charge of all of thepersonnel across the Navy.

(40:35):
So he is about to be thehighest ranking or second high,
I think, highest rankingmilitary prisoner, the highest
ranking individual to go to jailbecause he is facing 30 years
in prison for bribery.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah, yeah.
So what he did specifically?
He took a 500,000 a year job inexchange for steering defense
contracts towards a private firm.
Kind of sounds like a no-no,huh.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah it's.
I won't say these don't happenbecause there have been
incidences that I know of whereyou know you do.
You know I shouldn't say you do, but what happens is people,
high ranking officers, who havethe ability have oversight over
contracts for any number ofthings construction, for
training, for purchases,whatever it is.

(41:28):
You know they kind of leantowards people they know.
Generally that happens out oflike I'm doing a solid for my
buddy, right, that's the intentof it, not necessarily what
Admiral Burke did, which isexchange it for a half a million
dollar a year job.
So this is an unnamedcorporation and he was kicking
training contracts theirdirection in the hundreds of

(41:50):
millions of dollars for thisunnamed corporation in exchange
for a $500,000 a year job uponhis retirement.
And really what he screwed up onthe most was when you do
contracting you're supposed todo open bid for almost
everything, which means you putout a requirement that says we
need a company to do X, y, zhere's the stipulations that

(42:13):
we're looking for and it's anopen bid.
Any company can come to you andsay we can fulfill all of those
and it's a competition bid.
Any company can come to you andsay we can fulfill all of those
right and it's a competition.
You evaluate who submits a bidand who's best to fill the
requirement and then, throughthat evaluation, you say, okay,
that's the company that we'regoing to go with, right.
It's open bid.
You can, in certain cases, whenyou're looking for speed, right,

(42:35):
need it filled right away isone reason.
And then another reason is weknow there's only one company
that can fulfill thisrequirement, so they do what
they call sole source.
We know who's going to fill thecontract, we know that they're
the only ones that are capable,or we know that they're the only
ones that can do it, the amountof time we need it done, et
cetera.
You can justify sole sourcecontracting, which is what he

(42:55):
did.
Sole sourced it to this unnamedcompany to the tune of hundreds
of millions of dollars and thenfound out it was in exchange
for this half million dollar ayear job when he retired.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
And so was that the red flag.
How did he actually get caught?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
It was the sole sourcing that, yeah, the sole
sourcing did it.
That's really what did him in.
I guess they were being carefulabout this.
This all happened in a windowof 2020 to 2022.
You know, they they were beingcareful about this.
This all happened in a windowof 2020 to 2022.
Um, and, but I guess they helda meeting and he and he
basically told them stay awayfrom me, like physically, like
let's not, you know, um, ormaybe they told him the same

(43:29):
thing, like hey, let's, you know, keep at a distance.
We'll make this as, as you know, innocent looking as possible.
And then they had a personalmeeting somewhere in 2021 where
they actually met, and I thinkthat was kind of one of the
indicators.
And then it all came apartafter that.
Wow, yeah, 30 years in jailhe's going to.
He's going to die in jail if heserves a whole sentence, cause
he's 60, I think he's 64 yearsold at this point.

(43:51):
Um, so even if he serves halfof it, he's still going to be 79
.
Um, yeah, not good.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Not good Speaking of not good Navy incidents.
Not, that's funny.
I don't know why I just laughed.
That was so wrong.
There's one of those, I don'tknow what that was.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
It's an uncomfortable , it's a Kamala laugh.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
That's exactly, thank you.
Thank you, clay.
Yes, that's exactly what it was.
That was the Kamala laugh thatjust snuck right out there.
Yeah, this is actually crazyand awful and we do have a
little clip of the video, solet's watch that for a moment.
You can hear the people in thebackground.
They think it's like disbelief.

(44:34):
Yeah, you know, at first glanceand I'm sure in meeting for the
people like recording this andwatching this, you know there's,
there's no way they could haveknown how really catastrophic
that was.
For I think what was it?

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Two, two people died, two cadets, two cadets, yeah,
wow, and I think like 23 peopleinjured see from that bridge,
really from that vantage pointthey were filming, was that they
were standing along thoserolled sails.
So, as they went up the mastright and you've got the levels

(45:04):
of sails up there right and Idon't know the naval, I don't
know what the term is for thethe cross, you know where the
sail comes down, they werestanding on those when they hit
the bridge, um, and you can tellif you look I, the attention
obviously is drawn to the mastsand it impacts the bridge, but
that ship is going backwards.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
So there was a.
It was not meant to go that way, right, and it had a mechanical
failure.
My assumption, since the sailswere rolled up, it had a
mechanical failure in the engineand then flowed backwards,
probably with the flow of theriver, and that's why it?
Hit the and that's why it hitthe bridge.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
So that it really does explain everything.
I mean it explains a lotbecause you know, like you said,
watching it you're like howcould they not see the bridges
there?
Like what are they doing, youknow, with a drunk?
What's going on?
That makes perfect, perfectsense.
Just absolutely awful.
Very, very sad, very tragic.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
And to make it worse, so it's the.
I am not even I'm going tobutcher it.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
I can't either.
I think you're going to try it.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
The ARM.
Huatamac, I think, is what-.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Sounded good to me.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
I think that's as close as it's going to get.
So it is a training ship fortheir naval cadets.
I don't think we operateanything old like that anymore.
I know we did for a while.
I know we have a sailing teamat the Naval Academy and we do
have some older ships, but Idon't think we operate anything
like that.
I know we still have some inthe inventory the Constitution,
the Constellation which are bothmuseum ships, but anyway, they

(46:35):
were here on a goodwill um hadbeen here for a couple of weeks,
um, and then they were actuallythat was I.
I'm fairly confident that wastheir departure to go back to
Mexico, um.
So they were on their way homewhen that happened, um.
But the worst part of what heblamed because what the first
thing you do in a case likethis- is blame somebody.

(47:03):
So he blamed DHS and Doge forcutting the Coast Guard.
And if there was more CoastGuard, they hadn't cut the Coast
Guard.
There was more Coast Guard,they would have been able to
prevent this from happening withtugboats and all these other
things.
Now Coasties and DHS have comeout and said that is 100% false.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Yeah, we got a good little slap down for that
nonsense.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
But really Like that's, your immediate reaction
is to blame for something likethis.
Not knowing any of the details,not knowing anything, any
reason why it happened, anythingelse, he immediately went after
the administration because he'sjust a piece of garbage as a
human being?

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, absolutely, and you know he's, he's emblematic
of the Democrat party, and thatwill kind of go back to that a
little bit.
It's, it's not well, it doesactually.
Yeah, you know what.
Let's, let's go right to that.
Since I just brought it up,let's, let's go to Bernie, if
you don't mind.
Bernie, Bernie, so funny.
But you know, this is just likethe overarching theme of the

(48:11):
Democrat party, that they cannotstop sticking their foot in
their mouths.
You know, so to speak, theycan't not keep screwing up and
just destroying their party,like completely demolishing it.
And Bernie, you know, Berniehad some, I don't know.
Is it surprising, I don't know,for Bernie to say this A little

(48:33):
bit.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
It's a little bit of sour grapes.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, he's such a crotchety old man, anyhow.
So you know, your first likeglance is like oh, it's just a
crotchety old bernie statement.
You know, there it is.
Uh, the democratic party is athreat to democracy.
The last fair election was in2008.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Just throwing in the word yeah, so he's out on his,
you know, fight the oligarchywith AOC, right when they're
traipsing around in hismulti-million dollar jet
fighting the oligarchy.
And he stopped in on a I can'tremember the name of it, but he
stopped in on a podcast I can'tremember the name of it, but

(49:13):
anyway it's two younger guys whoare Democrats, but anyway it's
two younger guys who are, whoare Democrats, yeah.
And so they started talking toBernie about, you know,
obviously, his entire intent ofbeing there was to fight the
oligarchy tour, right, that'swhat all this was for.
And they, they brought it up tohim and they said, you know,

(49:34):
hey, we kind of, we kind of feellike we're getting shafted.
They're both Democrats,admittedly and they said, we
feel like, you know, the lastelection with no primaries, no
primaries being run, you know,the, the, and then the elections
before that, it seems like ourcandidates are being picked for
us.
Bernie Sanders, you know, camein, if you are not Bernie
Sanders, but you know, joe Bidencame in very late in the in the
previous election, so that waskind of taken out of everybody's

(49:56):
hands, right.
And then, you know, and so onand so forth, and um, you know,
the one before that was was, uh,hillary over Bernie, right, um,
the democratic party and?
And so they said it.
They said to him like we, wedon't feel, we feel like it's
the.
They actually asked him is thedemocratic party at?
Uh, they seem like they're theones that are a threat to

(50:16):
democracy.
And he said well, I did arguewith you and he brought up I
think he brought up the 2008.
Yeah, with him and Hillary, andyou know they fixed primaries
was really what it was Right.
Every primary has been fixedsince at least 2008.
And he said yeah, we're theDemocratic Party is a threat to
democracy and that's why I'mhappily and independent.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yeah, and he called him out for losing touch with
the people.
So you know, I mean, listen,I'm never going to be a fan of
Bernie's, other than to findenjoyment.
And out of you know his, hisMuppet caricature of a person,
he's just, he's just one of theold men on the Muppets you know
up in the balcony.

(51:00):
Right, it's him all day long,you know.
So he's great for entertainmentvalue, you know.
But him and his best gal, aoc,who hang on a second, who is
considered the you know, toppick there.
She's like their number one galright now, which you know again

(51:20):
, tells you everything you needto know about the state of this
party.
You know.
Everything you need to know isright there.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
And to your first point about they're in a lot of
turmoil.
Number one this is the firsttime, truthfully, that since
Bernie put the I on the back,you know, he took off the D and
replaced it with an I.
This is the first time I'veactually seen him sound like an
independent.
Yes, right.
But you know there's a lot ofturmoil in the Democratic Party
right now at party level,because they're kicking David

(51:49):
Hogue out already.
Yes, yeah, which he's alreadytalking about turning around and
suing them.
Right, and yeah, you've gotsuch a mess in there, so you're
right, they keep shootingthemselves in the foot.
The whole thing with presidentBiden, with the cancer.
You know you've got Tapper'sbook.
You've got the her recordings.
You know they want Biden out ofthe way Cause he always he
makes it worse every time hespeaks.

(52:10):
There's a lot of crap going on.
And now you've got Bernie, whois part of the system right, he
is long established part of thesystem saying, yeah, they suck
pretty bad.
It's not a good look at all.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
No, and you know to be honest with you, and we've
kind of touched on this manytimes in the past that you know
I don't want them to do anythingdifferent.
I want them to keep doingexactly what they're doing.
Don't change.
Don't change a thing.
I feel like there's a, there'sa song there, an 80 song.
I won't do it to you, I won'tstart singing it, but, yeah,
don't change, just keep doingexactly what you're doing.
This is, you know, oneexception for us.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
One exception.
I want them to run their citiesbetter.
Yes, I want right.
And and new Orleans is primeexample right.
So we had new Orleans new years.
We had the truck terrorismattack.
Right, where we had, you know,as bad as it was, what got the
most amount of press was the FBIagent with the nose piercing,

(53:08):
if you remember that.
And now we've got 10 prisonersescaped from a New Orleans it's
the Orleans Parish prison sothey escaped.
It was an inside job you and Iwere talking right before we
started recording about, so it'san inside job.

(53:29):
We know that one person wasarrested.
There were two more peoplearrested, not inmates, not
escapees, but two more peoplecontributing to the escape, but
10 escaped.
We've recovered five.
There's still five out there.
Um, you know, have you seen thepictures?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Yeah, I, I we actually have, uh, the video of
yeah, here's a video of, I'mjust making the run for it, uh,
but yeah, you're um, you'rereferencing the, um, the
pictures of the actual cellswith the.
You know, too easy there's likea, yeah, so crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, folks, if you haven't seen it, they removed
the entire toilet apparatus,moved it, broke a hole in the
wall.
This is like Alcatraz escapekind of stuff.
Right, broke a hole in the wall, took the time to write some
graffiti all around the hole.
You know as they were doingthis.
And then, when the time came,they, they, you know when they

(54:22):
had it seems like a lot ofaccess.
You know, probably cell doorswere open and and so they, they
moved the toilet out of the wayand they all made a break for it
.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Yeah, it's like some alternate universe.
Shawshank redemption right,Zero redemption not an ounce of
redemption going on.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Yeah, and so very much like New Year's.
What is getting even moreattention I don't know if you
saw this is the press conference.
Oh yeah, stephanie Minto Gibsonis her name.
She stepped up there and shewas the spokesperson for the
police department.
Spokesperson for the policedepartment.

(55:00):
And she stood up there in herpolice uniform with these
whacked out green large framecrazy glasses and listen, she
might be the most competentspokesperson in the world.
She looked like an idiot which,again, when you've got a crisis
situation that says you knowwe've had a prison escape with
violent criminals, she's notinstilling a lot of confidence

(55:23):
that they have the best peopleworking at the police department
.
Right.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yeah, not the face of confidence right there, oh yeah
, yeah, it's wild.
And you know, I agree with you,of course.
You know if there's anythingthat they could do that would be
of any use, it would be to dobetter, do better in your cities
, you know.
But that's, that'scounterintuitive to their goals.

(55:46):
That's never going to happen.
And you know, anyone who's beenalive for more than a minute
and who's been really payingattention knows that that is
never the agenda for inner cityleadership.
Right, they, they need thesepeople, their citizens or
constituents, to be dependent,to be angry, you know, I mean,

(56:08):
that kind of sums it up, right.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
I will say this Good for the people of New Orleans,
because I heard two storiesabout the five that they found.
One of them was that the mostviolent of the 10 was found
first.
He was the first one picked upand he somebody spotted him
hiding under a truck at a gasstation and called the police
and the police came and theypicked him up.

(56:30):
The second one was a guy asleepon a bench at a bus stop and,
like some new Orleans citizen,walked over, said wait a minute,
and he, like the guy's deadasleep and he pulls out his
phone and he looked at thepictures of the escapees and he
goes yep, and he called thepolice and the police walked

(56:50):
over and you know, hey, buddy,you're going back to jail.
Like walk them up off the park.
So good for the people in NewOrleans.
And for those of you listen,it's been a few days now.
So they're there if they, ifthey have any brains whatsoever.
They are miles, hundreds ofmiles away.
So everybody be on the lookout.
But good for the people in NewOrleans.
If you see something, saysomething.
Please report what you know.

(57:10):
They will figure this out.
But it sounds like they've gotthree co-conspirators that have
helped out with this andhopefully we'll get those five
back into custody soon, beforethey do anything even dumber.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Yeah, right, yeah, oh boy, you know, I think this.
You know these people turningthem in and everything you know.
I think it's a good sign or agood example of the.
You know the fatigue that weall feel of the.
You know the fatigue that weall feel Like, as somebody I saw

(57:43):
, I saw a couple of peopleposted you know, I think our
buzzword right now is going tobe Democrat fatigue, and I think
that is right and I think thatis like really apropos.
I feel like that is where we'reat.
We are at leftist fatigue,we're at liberal fatigue, we're
at Democrat fatigue, we're atstupidity fatigue.
We're done with all of it, youknow.

(58:05):
And that doesn't mean andthere's somebody that's going to
come in and say, well, you'relosing.
You know you need to becompassionate.
We already went over thatbefore.
We've already talked aboutcompassion.
You can be compassionate forpeople in need and people
struggling and people who havedifficult circumstances.
That doesn't excuse badbehavior.

(58:25):
It just simply doesn't.
Because if you've, if you'veever, you know people always say
the people on the left willalways say things like well, you
don't understand, they had adifficult childhood and you know
they, they need rehabilitationmore than they need jail and all
of these nonsensical things.
They, if you have existed onEarth, you've had a television,
you've had people in your lifeother than the people who've

(58:47):
done you wrong.
You have seen examples of goodbehavior, right.
So there are no excuses and Ijust I can't buy it.
I can't buy into it.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Yeah, and that word fatigue is a good word and I
think you know we've got thisadministration in place that is
no longer tolerating.
You know they're fatigued tooand they're speaking for all of
us because they got elected todo so.
They're no longer tolerating.
You know the crap from theliberal left and you know Marco
Rubio did it, rfk Jr did it,both of them this week basically
in testimony that RFK Jr did it, both of them this week

(59:20):
basically in testimony, you know, were getting grilled or
getting, you know, comments madetowards them and they snapped
back, which was great.
Rubio, you know, basically,yeah, he told the Congressman
because the Congressman told himat the end of his allowed
remarks, said and I have to tellyou in person that I regret,
you know, voting for you forSecretary of State, and he goes
and I, you know, turn over mytime or whatever he said.
And so Rubio asked if he couldrespond and the chairman said go

(59:41):
ahead and he goes.
If I, if you're regretting yourvote for me, that means I'm
doing a good job.
And then he went into hisexplanation for everything that
was going on.
And then RFK RFK, you know,testifying this week basically
looked at a lady.
That was the I think she'sDepartment of Health.
He said you've been here for 30something years.
You've contributed to thedemise, you've contributed to

(01:00:02):
the sickness of this nation.
You know, blah blah, blah, blahblah, and he and he went after
her, and so I think that's thatis very emblematic.
It's very representative of howso many people in this country
feel right now, and it's good tosee that our elected and
appointed officials, whorepresent us, are holding the
government accountable for theiryou know their role in where we

(01:00:23):
sit right now.
So that's what people voted forand I think they're getting
what they paid for.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Oh, absolutely Absolutely.
I feel that way very much rightnow, and that they're doing it
so eloquently to, you know,eloquent and firm and straight
to the point and fact, loaded,which has been, you know,
eloquent and firm and straightto the point and fact, loaded,
which has been, you know, soenjoyable to watch, no
sputtering or stumbling overtheir words, it, it.
They are so clear and conciseand it's such a joy to watch.

(01:00:49):
I did watch, I didn't watch.
Uh, I caught little bits ofRFKs, juniors, um, I did watch,
um, rubio's, and again, that manis making me so proud.
He's such a beast, he's anabsolute beast, and that guy-.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
You don't want to debate with that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Like that is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
You're going to walk yourself into a lot of trouble
if you get into a verbal debatewith that guy.
Yeah, he is a verbal assassinVery intelligent, super
quick-witted, and he is notafraid.
He will bring it.
So, yeah, it's pretty awesome.
We're starting to see againfolks.
It's 120 days, like we are 120days in, maybe a little bit more

(01:01:24):
, but that's right where we'reat and this is what we're seeing
.
We still have three and twothirds years of this, so you
know it's a lot to look forwardto.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Yeah, it is, oh, my goodness gracious.
We did it again.
We had, like I don't know,seven, eight topics, I think.
We kind of threw in a littlebit of extra sure um but yeah,
there's so much to cover and umyou know, yeah, we did it.
And all great topics too.
Um anything, you want to closethem out with nope, all right,
we're good listen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
It's always my same thing, right when in doubt.
Keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
That's right.
I love it, All right.
We love spending time with youguys on Thursday nights.
We appreciate you and lookforward to hearing from you in
the comment sections.
Don't forget to like, follow,share, subscribe all of the
things.
We appreciate it greatly and wewill see you guys next week.
Take care.

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