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SPEAKER_05 (00:00):
It's the Alpha Curve Show with Clay November, serving
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And now it's time for the show.
SPEAKER_03 (00:20):
Oh my goodness.
How are you, Clay?
SPEAKER_05 (00:22):
I'm good.
How are you?
SPEAKER_03 (00:23):
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm like in a weird spot.
I need to scooch over a littlebit.
Scooching over, guys.
Just humor me.
I need to be centered.
I should have done that before,but I wasn't paying attention.
What else is new?
Oh, so how are you?
Are you ready for Thanksgiving?
SPEAKER_05 (00:36):
I'm getting there.
Yes.
This is the uh season of kidscoming home from college and you
know, family get-togethers andall of those things.
And so, as a reminder, folks,Elsa and I will not have a show
next week.
We enjoy Thanksgiving and uhbeing around our families and
celebrating as much as everyoneelse.
And let's be honest, you guysaren't you're not tuning in on
Thursday night.
(00:57):
There's no way.
So um there will be no show nextweek.
But I am looking forward toThanksgiving.
How about you?
SPEAKER_03 (01:03):
So looking forward to it.
So we fly out on Monday, um, andwe will be in Florida with those
babies.
I can't wait uh forThanksgiving.
So I'm so excited.
I'm like practically jumping outof my skin.
You know, we FaceTime everysingle day, sometimes multiple
times a day, which is pureheaven for me.
And um, I just want to climbthrough that phone.
(01:23):
I can't even take it.
I'm losing my mind.
So yes, I'm I'm very excited.
I don't care.
We could we could have likeMcDonald's that day, and I
wouldn't even care.
I'd be like, it's perfect.
I love it.
So yeah, yes, I hope everybodyis uh excited and looking
forward to Thanksgiving andtheir family time, you know,
whatever whatever that means foryou.
I I hope it's uh I hope it'sgonna be wonderful for you all.
So speaking of wonderful, we'vegot uh a great show for
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everybody, Clay, the king oftopics, pulled up uh some really
good stuff anyway.
Great job on having topics thatjust segue so perfectly.
They just like kind of like arolling tide, just roll right
into each other.
So a lot a lot of big stuff totalk about.
Um yeah, yeah, a lot of bigstuff.
SPEAKER_05 (02:04):
Yeah, and and listen, folks, um, it is
Wednesday.
Uh it is uh 4 30 Eastern time,uh, our normal recording time.
So I know there are things thathave happened in the in the last
probably 24 hours, 12 hours, orprobably tomorrow.
Um, but we can't cover it all,so uh we're going with what we
got.
SPEAKER_03 (02:24):
Yes, and we got some good ones.
Here they are.
Here's what's coming up.
SPEAKER_04 (02:27):
Tonight, Marjorie Taylor Green goes from Magama
Marge to CNN's newest stick ofman.
Jeffrey Epstein shows up textinga House Democrat during the
Cohen hearing, and Congressvotes to release the Epstein
files at last.
We dig into the Trumpassassination attempt and the
mystery of the missing digitalfootprint.
Ask whether Trump Doomer waswilling to wreck your
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Thanksgiving to win a shutdownfight and finish with Michelle
Obama blaming white people forblack women's bad.
Elsa Curtain played Novak areyour host, and this is your
total bold truth.
Let's talk about it.
SPEAKER_03 (03:00):
So I I left it in there because it just made me
laugh.
Um, you know, AI, there's somegood things about it.
That's an AI voice that does ourlittle promos for us like that.
And it could not get MAGA.
It could not say MAGA.
It's gonna be from now on reallylike MAGA.
It's like it's like I feel likea parrot shouting, MAGA.
(03:22):
So I left it in because it mademe laugh.
But I just so you guys know, I Itried relentlessly for a solid
two minutes to get it to say,like I was spelling it all
different kinds of ways to getit to be able to pronounce it.
It was not getting it.
And I don't know, maybe it's uhmaybe it's a leftist run thing.
I mean purposely.
SPEAKER_05 (03:41):
And listen, folks, this is you're looking at the um
the stars, the production team,the uh distribution point, like
uh Elsa does all of this stuff.
So um, you know, don't hate onher on the AI thing.
Um, if any of you are willing tobe your announcer voice for
free, yeah, feel feel free tohear some seconds.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (04:01):
There's the catch fellas and ladies, whoever I
don't know.
So I I guess that was a littlesexist of me.
I do like for that.
I just I like that the malevoice better for that.
It's you know, I don't know,whatever.
I like it.
Sounds good.
So yeah, if anybody wants to dofor free, I mean, you know,
please do it.
Because by the way, I don't knowif you all know this or not, but
uh, we don't get paid to dothis.
This is our own, this is our ourbeloved, you know, pet project,
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I guess we could call it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_05 (04:26):
It brings us to our events for over two years.
SPEAKER_03 (04:28):
Yes, over two years, exactly.
That's how much we love doingthis.
So yeah, so that because I thinkeverybody thinks that like we
make like you know, so muchmoney doing this, you're gonna
pay to do it.
I wish, man.
I wish.
That'd be cool.
SPEAKER_08 (04:42):
Yeah, one thing I'm done.
SPEAKER_03 (04:43):
No, and you know, the thing of it, and I you know,
we'll get into the topics, Ipromise, guys.
But you know, the thing of thisall is like people have asked,
like, well, don't you want tolike work for uh, I don't know,
like a day fire once upon a timewhere I thought I did watch
that.
Um, but the the reality is isthe minute you work for
somebody, they they kind of ownyour content.
They tell you what you're gonnatalk about, they tell you what
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you're gonna say.
I mean, you get some say, um,but not as much as we do here.
We can say whatever the heck wewant, whenever we want, how we
want.
It doesn't, you know, so I likethat.
I don't like control, don't you?
SPEAKER_05 (05:16):
Yes, yeah, this is uh this is one of the best parts
of my week every week, and Ienjoy it.
And yeah, I don't I don't minddoing it for free.
SPEAKER_03 (05:24):
Ditto, same.
I mean, we're not to listen,we're not gonna turn down the
money within, you know.
I mean, listen, the right offercomes along.
We will take it.
SPEAKER_05 (05:32):
We will syndicate this in a heartbeat.
SPEAKER_03 (05:34):
In a heartbeat, under the right conditions with
the right everything.
If those stars align, we're notwe're not shutting it down.
But anyhow, anyhow, we got wegot big topics.
So uh Marjorie Taylor Green,she's like all over the news
right now, all over everything,including especially uh the the
mainstream media, the the leftrun world.
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There she is on her like apologytour, I guess we're calling it,
right?
SPEAKER_05 (06:00):
Um she's um, you know, as folks, you know, I
assume all recognize her by now,Marjorie Taylor Green.
She's uh, you know, Republicanfrom Georgia's what their uh
fourth, 14th district, I guess.
You know, she's been in Congresssince 2020.
So she got elected in 2020,re-elected in 22, re-elected in
24, right?
She's running up again in 26.
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Um and you know, she's runningto this um spat uh with the
president, specifically over umthe release of the Epstein
Files, Epstein Epstein Files.
Um, but she has gone.
Uh she's made claims against himthat he is turning his back on
the MAGA movement and and he'sturning his back on his on his
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uh you know dedicated followers,including her.
Um she's almost, I hate to saythis, but it seems like she's
claiming ownership orresponsibility over the MAGA
movement.
Um, but I didn't realize untilwe started, I started doing more
research on her, it's really howfringy she is.
Like did you realize I I didn't,I guess I didn't realize I knew
she was a little off-pilter, butI didn't realize how fringy she
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was.
SPEAKER_03 (07:05):
Yeah, so um my my thought was that she had like
kind of toned it down over theyears because that was the the
big thing about her in thoseearly years, that you know, why
so much you know, hate and andmockery was kind of poured on
her, uh the QAnon stuff, the youknow, all of her all of her
conspiracies and um, you know, alot of stuff that she was very,
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very, very, very, you know, loveit, hate it, whatever.
Um, she was very bold in herbeliefs and statements.
And um, I actually got tointerview her uh, I don't know,
probably like four or five yearsago, uh at a at an event.
And I, you know, saw her speakfirst.
She spoke to the crowd.
And uh what she doesn't get ordidn't get credit for was um she
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was actually an extremely goodspeaker, very motivational,
very, you know, there was noscript or whatever, no nothing.
And she was a very dynamicspeaker, very to the point of
what she was saying.
I was actually very impressedwith her going into it.
I I didn't have much of anopinion because there was so
much being of her.
Um, and then I got to interview,it was a very short interview,
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maybe 10 minutes or so.
And uh, she was delightful, shewas very personable.
Um I I liked her.
I ended up, I walked away, youknow, liking her.
Um, maybe not liking everythingthat she said or how she said
it, but you know, nor are yousupposed to, nor is it normal to
like everything that somebodydoes and says 100% of the time.
Uh now we fast forward to now,and um, you know, she was.
(08:35):
I mean the thing of it was shewas basically, I I know you're
saying that she kind of istaking credit, you know.
So I will give her some creditand say she was like a MAGA hype
woman.
I mean, no question about it.
She gets, you know, shecertainly gets some credit, but
I don't know if she was like thewhole the whole deal, the most
responsible.
Um, but anyhow, she's she's beengoing on CNN and uh the view.
(08:56):
And here's the here's the phonicattention, really, with this
now.
Um, basically apologizing forbeing a part of toxic politics.
And I I had to think about thisfor a while, Clay, because you
know, when I looked at what shewas saying, the actual words
that she was saying, it's like,yes, I I like this.
I agree with this sentimentthat, you know, let's step away
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from uh being part of toxicpolitics.
And you know, all this it'sgross, it's disgusting, it's
unbecoming, it's all of thethings that we've become that
are an embarrassment to us.
So on its face, I could agreewith her and say this is a
wonderful thing to say.
Here are the problems.
It's who she's saying it to, whoshe is kind of like bowing down
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to.
We do so here, so here she is onthe view.
Let's uh and there's so much totalk about here from what she's
saying, who she's saying it to,her demeanor, uh, everything.
So let's watch this together.
SPEAKER_02 (09:56):
I think that all of us right here are doing a great
job of exchanging our ideas andthings that we believe in, and
we're doing it in a veryprofessional and kind way.
And I don't know more aboutthat, America.
I really do.
And a lot of people wanted me tocome on the show and say nasty
things and and you know, all ofus to find all of this to find
(10:29):
to do that today because Ibelieve the people with powerful
voices like myself and like you,and especially women to women,
we need to cave a new fastcountry, our beautiful country,
our red, white, and blue uh flagis just being ripped to shreds.
And I think it takes women to ofmaturity to sew it back
(10:50):
together.
SPEAKER_03 (10:51):
And I think that's how so many things.
The way that they wereresponding and reacting to her,
so disrespectful, socondescending and rude.
Uh, joy, nasty, miserable joy.
I heard the contradiction there,purposeful.
(11:13):
Um there's there's it's fiveagainst one.
Is that what she said?
It's five against one.
What's she gonna do?
You know, so here she is tryingto make nice, and they're
throwing these snide littlecomments, the expressions, like
all of these things.
This is and her saying that likewe're all being, you know,
basically we're being nice toeach other, and and you know,
(11:34):
you're a powerful, strong woman.
No, you're not.
You're mean, nasty, vicious,cackling hens, first of all, who
spread lies deliberately, spreadlies about her, bashed her all
over the place, and now she'scoming on there and essentially
part of my language, kissingtheir asses, which is gross.
This is not this isn't peoplewith opposing views coming
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together mutually to uh moveforward, to like work a way
forward that everybody can bepeaceable.
This is her going on the pleaseforgive me, I want to be your
friend tour right now.
And they are like, okay, kissthe ring.
Go ahead, kiss the ring, and wewill we'll forgive you.
(12:19):
That's the truth of what thatall the optics of that.
Do you agree or disagree?
SPEAKER_05 (12:23):
No, she's campaigning, is what she's
trying to do.
And and what she's trying to dobecause President Trump has
pulled his endorsement of her,which is uh, you know, a death
blow uh within the party at thispoint.
Having his endorsement doesn'tguarantee you're gonna win your
election against a Democrat as aRepublican, but not having his
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endorsement as a Republicanguarantees that you will lose.
And so what she is trying to dois make up ground and she's
trying to appease, buy into buyvotes, get votes from truthfully
a liberal crowd that would neverhave voted for her, supported
her until this very moment.
(13:04):
Right.
So I mean, she is a Mago hatwearing, you know, in Congress
kind of person.
Um but now she is on the outs,she's in the cold.
So she's gotta find thosewithout President Trump's
endorsement, she is gonna losevotes.
And if she wants to stay inoffice, she's gonna have to find
votes elsewhere.
So she's making price with theenemy.
That's what she's doing.
(13:25):
I mean, for lack of a betterterm, that's what she's doing.
So is she kissing their ass?
Of course she is.
Um allowing them to be thatcondescending, nitpicky, you
know, cackling hen.
Of course she is.
Um you know, six months ago,eight months ago, nine months
ago, uh, especially during theelection, a year ago, she would
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have been on that show and shewould have been slinging with
them at every opportunity.
But now that she's on the outs,she's running to not just the
view, but also CNN and playingthis whole like, you know, I I
don't support President Trump inthis, or I disagree with
President Trump in this.
And and she's, you know, becauseshe's been cut away, now she's
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distancing herself on purposebecause she knows she can't win
inside the Red Party without hisendorsement.
So she's got to go and dip intothe blue to see if she can
retain her seat in Congress,which she's not gonna do.
I can promise you that she isgoing to be out of office at the
end of this term without hisendorsement.
And and instead of she's kissingthe wrong ass.
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I hate to say it.
If she ever.
If you're if you wear red andyou've got an R behind your name
and you want to stay in office,there's one ass kissed.
Let me tell you something.
Yeah, that's right.
Um, and and it certainly isn'tthose five ladies, it's not CNN,
it's not MSNBC, and all theseother outlets that she's
courting, um, or even the voterswithin her district.
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She has got to be on the side ofPresident Trump if she wants a
shot in hell.
SPEAKER_03 (14:52):
And she just blew it, she really she blew it so
bad.
I I I'm just I'm flabbergastedthat I mean, who is in her
corner speaking to her saying,do this, don't do that, don't do
this, do that.
I I mean, clearly no one is isguiding her in any direction.
She just is going off the railsand making absolutely stupid
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decisions because anyone who wason her side, that is, MAGA, is
now saying, and I'm sure she'sgot some support, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Um, but overall, it's not goingto be nearly enough to to write
this ship for her because thisis uh when you had let's put it
this way, when you have JasmineCrockett saying, Listen, do I
have this idea?
SPEAKER_07 (15:31):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:32):
Yeah, when you have Jasmine Crockett saying this,
this and for anybody who'slistening, um Jasmine Crockett
tweeted on X.
She said, This almost feels likea moment where Marge should
phone a friend.
I'm here for you, girl.
I told you not to trust him.
All he cares about is himselfand protecting Petobs.
He never loved you.
My granny always said, be withthe man that loves you more than
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you love him.
Trust me, sis, you are betteroff without him.
The gwoles are fighting.
I can't even believe that I saidthat.
That's a stupid word.
I don't know what that iseither.
And I don't even want to know.
I don't care.
Um, but if that is who is nowtweeting support for you, by the
way, that's the same JasmineCrockett that called uh Marjorie
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Taylor Green, let's have and getthis right, a bleach blonde,
butch-built body.
Uh something else, somethingelse.
But that's the gist of um, youknow, how she referred to her.
And that was, of course, afterum Marjorie Taylor Green made
fun of her eyelashes, her, youknow, spider on her eyes.
Um, yeah, if that if that's whoyou have have now just gained
(16:38):
the support from, um, you have amuch bigger problem than you
even could even realize.
So, and and you tell me if youheard this.
Now, I heard I heard that umthis is just a rumor that I know
of.
Supposedly Trump to her or spoketo her about her numbers
privately, basically said, like,look, you don't have the
(16:59):
support, so don't do this.
Um, and she wanted to runanyway, wanted to keep going
forward with this anyway.
And so he had no choice.
So supposedly the rumor was thathe tried to tell her privately,
quietly, like, don't, it was notgonna, it's not a good move for
you.
And she didn't want to hear it,and that's why she's all mad.
And now she's like running withit.
And now she's now she made himmad.
SPEAKER_05 (17:21):
Well, I I mean, I I hadn't heard that rumor.
It makes a lot of sense.
Um and and you know, PresidentTrump is if he knows that her
numbers are bad, that guy'snever gonna back a known loser.
Like that's right.
So um, you know, and I think astight as things are in the
voting lines in Congress, one ortwo matters.
(17:43):
So um, you know, she's takenthis, she's probably gonna take
the next year plus a little overa year, as a lame duck
opportunity to be very positive,um, which does not bode well, I
can say it for the RepublicanParty.
She's gonna be the fly in theointment.
Um, and I think she probablythought because of that, she had
some bargaining power with thepresident to say, you know, no,
(18:05):
I'm gonna do this, and you needme, you know, you're gonna
endorse me, you're gonna helpme, you're gonna keep me in
office because I'm in office nowand you need me to accomplish
things over the next year.
Um, and if you don't help me,then I'm gonna be a pain in the
ass.
And so I think that's thedirection she's taking.
SPEAKER_07 (18:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (18:21):
Um, I mean, she's always been a bit of a pain.
I mean, her and Lauren, uh,Lauren Boebert had it out, you
know, whatever it was two yearsago.
Um, and again, she's always beenuh, you know, throw the chart up
and you know, and all thosethings.
She's always been mildlydisruptive, you know, people
called her feisty or they, youknow, whatever.
Beauty's in the eye of thebeholder at this point.
You know, if she's on your team,she's feisty.
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If she's not on your team, she'sdisruptive.
Um but but um I think she missedthe mark on this one.
I think that she really believesthat she had or has the
president in a corner and thathe had no choice but to endorse
her.
And the reality is that he's notgonna do it.
He's not gonna back a loser, henever has.
SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
No, no, he never has.
Yeah.
Um, you know, and and again, uhher actual words, because I'm
sure, and I don't know this, Idon't know this, I haven't seen
it yet.
Um, her actual words, here's theirony, are good.
In in like in essence, right?
Like the let's stop the toxicpolitics, let's, you know, let's
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come together, let's do thethings.
But she, of all people, shouldknow that the people that we're
up against, she's up against,are not the people who are
willing to compromise and makegood.
Like, this is not like, and she,how can you not know this?
So I think your assessment isspot on because that's the only
thing that would make sense thatshe's you know trying to
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rebrand, trying to appeal to,you know, a different uh crowd
now.
And um, uh, you know, hey, goodluck to you.
Marge.
Good luck, you're gonna need it.
unknown (19:53):
Marge.
SPEAKER_05 (19:54):
Marge.
Um, yeah, she's you know, um,she's she is rapidly gonna
become a sideshow uh inCongress.
Um you know, and and she's gonnafind herself completely out of
office.
It's not it, I if she survivesthe 26th election, uh, it'll be
shocking.
Uh you know, it'll be her andher and Fetterman passing in the
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hallway as the two people onthe, you know, abandoned or
orphaned, you know, by their ownparty.
Uh and and really offsettingeach other.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:23):
So maybe they'll join together and run as
independence for something atsome point, you know.
I mean, that might be their onlyI mean, not that it's gonna give
them much of a chance ofanything, but at least it'll
make them feel good, I guess.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_05 (20:34):
But listen, that is that is far from the weirdest
thing happening in Congressright now.
SPEAKER_03 (20:38):
Oh my word.
What the heck, bro?
Just channeled my inner12-year-old boy, I guess.
I don't even know what that was.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_05 (20:50):
So we've got, you know, um, obviously there's a
we're gonna talk uh at Epsteinin in a um a couple of segments
here, but but this one isextremely interesting because uh
what has been revealed as thesepieces and parts of the file are
being released is that StaceyPlaskett, Plaskett, Plaskett,
whatever it is, who is anon-voting member of Congress.
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So she is a Democrat, she's fromthe U.S.
Virgin Islands, which means shesits in there, she represents
the Virgin Islands, she doesn'tget to vote.
Um, keep in mind uh EpsteinIsland was part of the U.S.
Virgin Islands.
Also keep in mind Epstein helpedher get into office.
Um but while there was a in2019, uh while there was a trial
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going on, a hearing, not atrial, but a hearing in
Congress, um, that that you knowhad Epstein on it, you know, his
name was all over it, and he wasin jail.
Um Stacy Plaskett, Democrat, USVirgin Islands, was texting him.
Yeah.
First of all, am I the onlyperson who found it appalling
that he had a cell phone to betext messaging with in jail?
SPEAKER_03 (22:00):
Seriously, yeah, yeah.
We can take a pause and put apin in that, right?
SPEAKER_05 (22:04):
Like, this is a white collar crime guy.
This isn't a guy who was, youknow, like embezzling money or
you know, stealing identities.
This guy was a pedophile, humantrafficker, like historically
horrific crimes.
Yes, yet still had a cell phone.
Um, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (22:24):
Yeah, everybody just like process that for a moment
because just yet anotherindicator of how much power this
guy was wielding over all ofthese other people.
Like, no wonder this is alltaking so long.
But yeah, so yes, texting,texting with him, um even
saying, quick, I'm up next.
(22:46):
Yeah.
For him to right to hurry up andtell her what to say.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (22:50):
This wasn't like the night before she's doing her
prep or the weeks before she'sprepping for this thing.
This is as the trial, this isthey have the digital footprint
of this, folks, and the timing.
So they know the timing of this,verify during this hearing.
She said exact exactly what yousaid, Elsa.
Hurry, I'm up next.
I need to know who Rona is.
(23:11):
Is that an acronym?
Because it was R-O-N-A-CapitalLetters.
unknown (23:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (23:15):
Um, and he's like, Oh no, that's President Trump's,
that's Trump's personalassistant.
She's in an office right acrossthe hall from him.
If anybody knows about any ofthis stuff, it's her, she knows
everything that's going on.
So he's filling her in ondetails, and then you can watch
the timing.
I don't know if you saw this,but somebody laid out the timing
of the text messages against thetiming of the hearing.
And and she, so as itapproaches, right, he answers
(23:38):
that question on who Rona was,and then she asks a question
that says, you know, so and soand so-and-so, and Rona and
Rona, and who's Rona?
Who's Rona?
And you know, um, the person onthe stand was what's his name?
Trump's old lawyer that went tojail.
God, I can see his Facebookalready like the disgusting
human being.
Anyway, um, and and uh he said,Oh yeah, that's that's President
(23:59):
Trump's personal assistant, youknow, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Um, and then she messaged backto Epstein, and he even told
her, good job, as the trial wasgoing on.
SPEAKER_03 (24:12):
Insane.
Insane.
Like, are you kidding me rightnow?
SPEAKER_05 (24:19):
Known folks, this is after he's been convicted.
This was not in prison waitingfor trial.
Yeah, he is Epstein that theworld knows.
Yes, he's that guy.
She is texting him while injail, right?
While he's in jail, during atrial, to get advice,
encouragement, and and guidancefrom him.
SPEAKER_03 (24:40):
Yeah.
And meanwhile, you know, the theleft is hearing this, right?
Mainstream media, the left ishearing this, and you know,
they're like, oh, let's see,hmm, televised uh hearing aimed
at taking down Trump.
Um, Epstein is feeding, youknow, lines to to them there
right while this is all goingon.
(25:00):
Yeah, nothing to see here.
Let's move on.
SPEAKER_05 (25:04):
So her law professor, her law professor is
in Congress right now, RaspberryDemocrats.
Oh, right.
Yes.
So folks, they they put forth uhan effort to censure her from
Congress, which truthfully, inher capacity as representing the
Virgin Islands and not beingable to vote on anything was
really kind of a gesture oflike, hey, you're a horrible
human being, you know, you needto go away.
(25:26):
Which didn't pass, by the way,which is just as disturbing as
the rest of this stuff.
Yeah.
Um, but in that censure hearing,her former law school professor,
Raskin, Democrat, got up thereand defended her and literally
justified what she was doing bysaying she was just speaking
with one of her constituents.
That's all she was doing.
What's wrong with that?
(25:46):
He was just a constituent fromher district.
There's you we're we're allowedto do that.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with that.
This is not, this isjustification.
This is a congressperson, anelected official justifying this
by saying that, as if we're alla bunch of idiots.
SPEAKER_03 (26:02):
Yep.
These are truly the worst peopleon on the planet.
These are horrible, horriblehuman beings.
They are beyond the pale,disgusting.
And if you think I'mexaggerating, let's remind you
again again what Epstein was inprison and convicted of and for.
(26:23):
Like, do we forget what that is?
So, yeah, when I say that Ithink they are some of the most
vile human beings on the planet,I absolutely mean it 100%.
That is just disgusting.
And you know, and as with somany times when we're talking
about this in particular, uh,this case in particular, and
(26:44):
anything like it, I it's just soI'm I'm angered to exhaustion.
Like, like I've gotten so angryand and horrified and disgusted
by this all that I'm likeemotionally exhausted from it.
And and I think we all are.
I think I speak for so manypeople when I say that.
(27:05):
And we just shouldn't be, weshouldn't allow ourselves to get
exhausted by it because then youstart getting apathetic towards
it.
And I think we're I think we'realso largely at that point
because again, like what's gonnahappen?
Is anything happening?
I mean, are we well?
I guess that can move us rightinto that, right?
SPEAKER_05 (27:22):
I mean before we go too far, there go ahead as as
these bits and pieces are comingout, right?
So we've seen these textmessages.
There's been a little bit morewhile he was in jail, Epstein
correspondence that has come tothe surface.
Um, there's been correspondencereleased between him and Hakeem
Jeffries, oh, by the way, as hewas looking for money, right?
(27:45):
Donations and and and all ofthat, but also um a Harvard, I
think he was the president,former president of Harvard,
continued to uh uh seek uh uhadvice from Epstein.
Get this on how to uh approach,converse, and have a
(28:09):
relationship with a young womanhe was mentoring.
SPEAKER_03 (28:12):
Seriously, I did not know this.
This was new to me.
SPEAKER_05 (28:15):
So this guy has now apologized and has said he is
gonna back away from publiclife.
Um, I think he was a formerpresident of Harvard.
He was at Harvard, he was a bigwig.
Um, but but yeah, like knowinglike this is people knew who he
was.
That's proof positive, right?
Yes, people knew that he was adisgusting human being, they
knew what he was doing.
(28:35):
This guy was actually solicitingadvice on how to do the things
that Epstein does from Epsteinwhile he's in jail, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_03 (28:44):
Yeah, and and again, tell me they're not disgusting,
horrible, repugnant humanbeings.
SPEAKER_05 (28:50):
Embrace yourself, folks, because again, next
topic, we're about to hear, see,know, find out all kinds of
things about all kinds ofpeople.
SPEAKER_03 (29:01):
Yes, yep, yes, we are about to uh get what we
asked for, basically.
I mean, um, and and you know, wewhen we first were talking about
this, we were we we did you andI did talk about um exactly that
kind of bracing for what's inthere because a lot of people, I
don't think we will be, maybewe'll be, but um I think a lot
(29:22):
of people are gonna be, theywill be shooketh to their core.
Yeah.
Right.
Um, because there are going tobe names and people that you may
have held in some esteem to somedegree, and um so many houses of
cards are gonna be coming down.
(29:42):
And and you know, I hope that'swhat's gonna happen.
And and I hope that's what'sgonna, even if it's somebody
that I like and admire um fromafar.
Uh if you are any part of this,I want to see you go down, I
want to see you fall, I want tosee every one of them fall from
grave.
And lose everything.
And, you know, because again,the thing that gets overlooked
(30:06):
so often is the actual victims,the actual victims of all of
this who are living with this asa daily part of their existence.
And they are forever changed andnot for the good because of
this.
One woman is dead.
You know.
It's just absolutely horrific tome.
SPEAKER_05 (30:26):
Yeah.
So Congress voted yesterday,again, recording on Wednesday.
Um they voted yesterday to dofull release of all of the
upstate documents.
Um that passed.
I think there was one person whovoted.
SPEAKER_03 (30:40):
One, yeah.
It was um 427 to one.
unknown (30:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (30:44):
And it was, was it a Republican?
I I don't remember who it was.
SPEAKER_03 (30:48):
Higgins?
SPEAKER_06 (30:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (30:49):
Yeah, to me, and I'm not making excuses, folks.
Yeah.
There should have been likethat, should have been a clean
sweep.
Should have been.
No excuse.
I think that may have been aprocedural, like, I disagree
with this because one of thethings that's not being
redacted, my understanding, arethe names of the victims.
So as this comes out very clean,this is why this has been so
(31:12):
back and forth, and is, youknow, because one of the hangups
administratively was protectingthe victims in this.
Um, but you know, we've allgotten to the point where we're
just like, you know, hey,release the files.
Um, and and so I I think maybe,and I'm not making an excuse,
(31:34):
but I think maybe that oneperson, it was a procedural,
it's not that they disagreednecessarily with releasing the
files to protect anybody oranything.
I think it may have been a hey,administratively, I think this
is there's something wrong withthis.
Regardless, it passedoverwhelmingly, one no, and it
is on the president's desk.
The question that we're allasking is like, is he gone?
(31:56):
Is he on a plane somewhere?
We're not gonna Biden auto penthis thing.
No, like no auto pen.
He's he's gonna sign it, but thequestion is why is he not in the
office today?
Which may be the reason.
I don't know.
Could be, but yeah, I mean he'sa busy guy, like the guy doesn't
sit around.
SPEAKER_03 (32:12):
No, he definitely does not.
But it would have been nice ifthey could have like, you know,
just airdropped it to him orsomething.
SPEAKER_05 (32:19):
Okay, trust that one to the cloud.
Just saying.
SPEAKER_06 (32:22):
Fair enough, fair enough.
SPEAKER_05 (32:24):
I I think, you know, I think there's gonna be some
maybe they're bombshells, maybethey're not.
I think some of these are umknown to people or at least
anticipated.
I think there's someanticipation that we're gonna
find out that one of the reasonsthat Epstein was so protected is
because he was an intelligenceasset.
Um, and I think you know, DOJand some other folks are gonna
(32:46):
have to probably bring CIA inand some of the stuff's gonna
have to be declassified.
Um, I think that's part of it.
Um it would not surprise me ifand listen, folks, we're not
saying that Epstein was a CIAagent, um, but he, if you think
about it, if there was a personwho could collect and have dirt
on hundreds of people, powerfulpeople around the world that
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could be used for intelligencegathering reasons, he's the guy.
Um, so you know, as and itdoesn't make the CIA complicit
in this.
I think they should have steppedin if they knew anything about
it, regardless.
But I I think we're gonna findout that he was an intelligence
asset or at least in contactwith the CIA.
I think we're also gonna findout, and this is on the low end
(33:28):
of the rumor scale, but I'veheard this a couple of places,
is that the FBI whistleblower isnone other than President Trump
himself.
SPEAKER_03 (33:35):
Hmm, yeah.
I would I yeah, I mean, I couldsee that easily.
Well, they've got, you know, andI don't have it, guys.
Um, there's a video from him oflike in 2015.
Yep.
Specifically calling out uhEpstein Island and uh saying
something about uh PrinceAndrew, yeah, um, who's lost
(33:58):
been stripped of all his titlesand everything.
They just call him Andy now.
Yeah, Andy.
Yeah, Andy.
Uh yeah, good old Andy.
He said, ask Andrew about it.
He can tell you.
And you know, you got a littlesmirk on his face.
You're like, go ahead, ask him.
He's got some stories for you ifyou want to hear him.
And that got kind of likebreezed over back then.
He was talking about it longbefore anybody else was.
(34:20):
So, you know, he's the one thatkind of put some eyes on it,
really.
Like, what's the 1791?
SPEAKER_05 (34:26):
What is it?
So I think that is that has thepotential to be in there that he
is the person who really blewthe lid off this thing.
Um, which I think would be like,I think that's one of the
reasons if that's true, and Iactually think it is true, that
is probably the primary reasonwhy these documents sat for four
years under the Bidenadministration, because they did
not want to give Trump any herostatus of any kind ever at all.
(34:48):
Right.
Um, so don't be surprised,folks, if something like that is
in there, maybe not thatspecific, although I think
that's what it is.
Um, between that and then againthe CIA being somewhat complicit
uh in what was going on if theywere using him as an
intelligence asset and knowingwhat was going on.
Um, but also there's some thingsin there I I know and you know
that when all these names arereleased, there's gonna be some
(35:10):
pretty powerful people that werebeing protected.
Yes.
Um and uh I can't wait.
I really can't.
Even if that have you seenthere's a couple of like you
know they're fakes that are outthere in social media.
There's like this, you know,page with like three or four
columns of names, yeah.
Which is ridiculous.
(35:30):
Yeah.
Um, but like if half of that, ifa third of that is true, like
it's gonna be earth-shatteringfor a lot of people.
Um so and and we're all we'regonna see politicians, we're
gonna see athletes, we're gonnasee businessmen, we're gonna see
um entertainment, you know,music, actors.
There's gonna be smatterings ofall kinds of people on there.
Yeah.
And uh I can't wait.
SPEAKER_03 (35:51):
Burn them to the ground, burn it to the ground,
please.
Start fresh, scorched earth onthis.
I please just burn it all.
Yeah, and and I and I don'tknow.
I like I I actually kind of wantto pray on this that Trump is
the the the one.
Like, I oh, that would bring meso much joy.
I can't even begin to tell youhow much joy, just to throw it
(36:13):
right at him like, oh,everything he thought, you know.
I mean, the biggest tell here islike if they really had all of
this uh stuff on Trump, youknow, because they're still
trying to, you know, likeTrump's on it, Trump's on it,
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump,Trump.
You mean to tell me, you know,they did everything that they
could possibly think of todestroy Trump and any chance at
the presidency for him this timearound.
(36:33):
I mean, last time too, but um ifthey had stuff on him and they
were sitting on it, of coursethey would have released it if
they had it.
Because I mean, that is thesimplest fact of all.
If they had it, it would havebeen released a long time ago.
So, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (36:52):
Listen, folks, you don't fabricate something like
Russia collusion if you havesomething that is concrete
evidence of a real crime.
SPEAKER_03 (36:59):
Yeah, exactly.
Especially something that is soincredibly vile.
So, yeah, give give it up, guys,give it up.
Uh, since we are still on theTrump train talking about our
buddy there, uh, let's keepgoing.
This one, Clay.
Oh my word.
You go ahead.
You go on.
SPEAKER_05 (37:16):
Yeah, Thomas Crooks is who we're talking about.
This is the Butler PA uhshooter, the kid who's dead.
Uh so the one of the things thathas been not been publicly
released uh in the year plussince the assassination attempt
is his digital footprint.
And for a while there, we wereeven being told that he didn't
have one, which we all know iscrazy.
There's there's nobody, youknow.
(37:38):
I I'm pretty sure the DalaiLama's got a digital footprint
at this point.
SPEAKER_03 (37:41):
He totally does, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (37:43):
So yeah, but there was no, there was this, you
know, hey, the kid doesn't haveanything, we don't know
anything, we can't, you know,and and the FBI, of course, has
had it all along.
Um, a lot of it was beingprotected, hidden, um, partially
because of an investigation, butalso partially because it was in
the hands of the Bidenadministration for a while.
Um, but what we're finding outabout this kid is that for a
(38:05):
long time he was a Trumpsupporter as a teen as a
teenager, like not even oldenough to vote yet, I don't
think.
Um big, you know, umconservative, really to a point
of being violent.
Um, some of the statements thathe made, I don't know if you
have seen any of these, but it'slike, you know, we should be
like these anti-MAGA, you know,people should get shot in the
(38:26):
head with an AR-15 and like allthis crazy, you know, super
violent tendency.
And then all of a sudden in2020, there was a switch.
SPEAKER_07 (38:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (38:34):
And he went from loving President Trump to hating
President Trump.
And they found a correlationwith a Norwegian YouTube account
that the guy or the theindividual they can tell, I
don't think they know who thatperson is, but they do have
enough digital signature to findout that this person was
(38:55):
associated with essentially aNorwegian version of Antifa on a
left-wing nut job.
Um, and and so they're findingthat that you know crooks was
talking to this individualthrough YouTube, and that's
about the time that he turnedfrom being a violently
supporter, a violent supporterof President Trump to a violent
(39:18):
opposer of President Trump.
Um and then and then you canimagine the waterfall effect uh
that led to Butler PA.
Um, but what they're alsofinding out is go figure with a
kid who's as mentally unstableas this young man was.
Um he also had you know weirdsexual tendencies on top of
everything else.
(39:38):
Again, go figure.
Um and I'm not gonna get toodeep into that because it's
gross and it's uncomfortable,and like nobody's really you
just need to know he was intosome weird stuff, people.
If you really want to go andlook it up, you can look it up.
But he was into some weirdstuff.
Um, but now all of a suddenwe've got this digital
footprint.
And where where does that sitwith you?
Like this has been over, youknow, what how many months has
(40:01):
it been now?
SPEAKER_03 (40:02):
Right.
Yeah, I don't even know.
But yeah, yeah, something likethat.
Um, yeah, you know, obviouslyeverything I think we're all
kind of thinking somewhere alongthe same lines that like, you
know, the one being how comewe're just finally hearing
something about this?
You know, we we have you know,everyone else, close to everyone
else, within minutes, we havethese people's life stories.
(40:23):
We know everything about them,you know, information, and
granted, yes, a lot of times alot of false information comes
out first and all of thosethings, but nonetheless, I mean,
you find everything very, veryquickly.
So one would be why was thisscrubbed, or why or was this all
scrubbed or suppressed, um,unlike anyone else?
(40:45):
Uh the this the shift, like whois this person that got a hold
of this kid?
And yes, there's already so youalready have somebody um who's
clearly got some mental illnessgoing on.
Um this is something they hearall the time about the CIA using
people, you hear these, butthey're not even rumors.
It's true.
Like this is a documented thing.
(41:05):
This is true.
CIA will use people like this tothey'll they'll mess with them
basically and get them to dothings.
So, you know, is this a case ofthat?
Who is hiding all of this?
Who is this kid?
Who is all of the things?
There's so many questions here,and still, I mean, this is a
(41:27):
little bit of potential insight,um, but there's still way too
many questions for somethingthat should have been long
resolved and and handled alreadyat this point.
Um, you've got Tucker Carlson,of course, and others on the
right are saying that the FBIlied or at least misled the
public about his digitalfootprint and possible
(41:48):
ideological leanings.
Um, and by the way, youmentioned it was like 2020, so
we're talking about COVID time.
Um, so now you've got isolation.
You know, you've got a greatpoint.
SPEAKER_07 (41:58):
That's it.
Right?
SPEAKER_03 (41:59):
You've got yeah, you've got all of these factors
that so you have somebody who isalready uh experiencing
psychological, emotionaldistress.
Now you're isolating them, andnow there's somebody online that
has this continuous access tothis mentally unstable person,
and they make this completedramatic flip of where their
(42:23):
attention and you know hatred uhis getting focused on.
A lot of questions here, and Istill don't really know if we're
ever gonna get the actualanswers.
SPEAKER_05 (42:33):
Yeah, I mean it's 2025.
We're still not sure aboutidentity in 63 years.
SPEAKER_03 (42:39):
Yeah, I mean, so the reality is this, you know, maybe
in um, you know, maybe in 50years or so we'll we'll find
out.
Yeah, pretty sure it won't bealive for us.
SPEAKER_05 (42:48):
This is uh I listen, I have a lot of um, I personally
have a lot of understanding andtolerance for the we're not
gonna disrupt an ongoinginvestigation.
Sure.
Okay.
You know, I mean you understandthat as a as a LEO wife, right?
We all we all get that.
SPEAKER_07 (43:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (43:06):
There are some people who don't, and that and
okay, that's why FOIA exists,and that's why you've got people
like Tucker Carlson who areupset with the FBI.
And I I think the hard part isthat the FBI essentially said we
have nothing, or at leastallowed the public to assume or
believe that they had nothingwhen they actually had
something.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (43:25):
And why wouldn't you just say that?
SPEAKER_05 (43:27):
Exactly.
I would prefer that they wouldcome out and say, listen, we we
have information about ThomasCrooks, we have pieces of his
digital footprint, we arecontinuing to investigate um and
leave it at that, right?
Now, I'm sure somebody, youknow, along the way when it was
under the high hands of theBiden administration, yes, I'm
(43:49):
sure there were things that werebeing covered up.
No question in my mind.
However, when it transitionedover, Kafka Patel took over Dan
Bongino, there could this couldhave been handled very
differently uh from the get-go.
So um now, what we don't know iswhat's going on inside of the
FBI, right?
What's going on below KashPatel?
He's not personallyinvestigating the assassination
attempt of the president, he'sresponsible for the people that
are.
(44:09):
So they may have had this stuffsitting on a desk or in a filing
cabinet somewhere that theychose not to bring forward for
whatever reason.
I don't know, none of us know.
Um, but I think handled wrong,truthfully.
Um, this was uh mishandled, andI think you're right.
I think we're, you know, it's15, 16 months beyond the event
itself.
(44:30):
We will probably never know.
And listen, for the Americanpublic, I'll vote, I'll I'll
speak for the American public.
Nothing is more frustrating thannot having the information and
and being allowed or conspiracytheories being allowed to build
because that's what's happening.
SPEAKER_03 (44:49):
Yeah.
Um, that's yeah, you're soright, Clay.
SPEAKER_05 (44:53):
It's feeding the QAnon, it's feeding the
conspiracy theorists, it'sfeeding all that crap when just
a little bit of information cankeep that stuff at bay.
And they choose not to.
SPEAKER_03 (45:02):
Yeah, you're so right.
That it that is the the highestfrustration here that you know,
just a give a give something,give a little bit.
Like you said, you know, it's anongoing investigation.
We can't release certain bits ofinformation.
We know lots of things aboutlots of stuff, but we can't talk
about it because it's anongoing.
Like, just say that.
Don't, you know, I mean, we'realready, we're already so uh
(45:28):
steeped in everything being alie, you know, like nobody
believes it's anything, nobodybelieves anything that's coming
out of anybody's mouths anymore,between AI, between, you know,
mistrust in the government,between the, you know, political
warfare against each other onboth sides.
(45:48):
Like nobody believes anything.
So try and dispel some of thatby just putting the truth out
there.
And yes, there's always going tobe the Tucker Carlsons and the
Candace Owens of the world thatare going to look for a
conspiracy in the mostnon-conspiratal things.
Like that's how they make themoney.
It's literally how theyfunction, it's their job, it's
what they do.
But for the rest of us, likewe're so fatigued from all of
(46:11):
it.
Like, just tell us the freakingtruth, just give us something
that we can believe, you know.
But I don't know.
Oh my god, I'm so tired.
Like, I need the I need ourlittle, I need our Thanksgiving
break.
People make me these people makeme so angry as I let up about
it.
Oh, what else we got?
Uh let's see.
Oh, let's talk about this guyhere, Schumer.
(46:32):
Talk about conspiracy.
Yeah, right.
Yes, yeah.
I mean, listen, I I'm so youknow, I'm still mad, but I'm so
grateful that this is resolvedfor Thanksgiving travel.
Because yes, guys, it's allabout me and my travel.
It is, it is.
But uh yeah, after the 40 plusdays of the longest government
shutdown in American history,the Senate finally blinked.
(46:54):
Flights are melting down.
Uh, I don't know what thatmeans.
I think I'm just reading thatwrong.
Families were sweating uhThanksgiving travel.
Yes, I was, and everyone in DCsport was the other guy's fault.
Um, so did Chuck Schumer drag itout to hurt Trump and knowledge?
That might feel like it's ano-brainer.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (47:11):
So well, there's there's confirmation at this
point, at least, some tacitconfirmation.
Um so he president uh you knowSchumer was now it's coming out
because he solicited help fromnot just uh Congress people, but
also which I don't necessarilyunderstand how that influenced
anything, but um he was lookingfor help in trying to keep the
(47:35):
shutdown going throughThanksgiving, purposely not
paying federal employees,service members, air traffic
controllers, federal lawenforcement, all of that,
purposely disrupting familyholiday air travel specifically.
Um purposely making the economya challenge so that people
(47:56):
wouldn't necessarily have enoughmoney to celebrate a proper
Thanksgiving as we traditionallydo, right?
And and widespread across thecountry.
So he was looking to makeThanksgiving miserable for
everyone for political purposesonly.
And there is now evidence thatthis is true.
We all, like you said,no-brainer.
We all kind of suspected he isthat brand of jerk um and that
(48:20):
brand of politician.
But now there is, there arepeople coming out after the vote
happened to reopen thegovernment that have said, I was
not on board with what Schumerwas doing.
He asked me for help, or heasked for you know my
abstinence, you know, abstainfrom the vote or to not
whatever, um, so that he coulddo X, Y, and Z and they could
blame it all on President Trumpand it would look bad for
(48:42):
President Trump.
So, really, folks, I mean, if ifyou didn't think Schumer was
done before this crappy outcomeof a 40 plus day shutdown, now
that this is out and in thewind, he's definitely done.
SPEAKER_03 (48:54):
Yeah, he's gotta be.
He's gotta be.
He has to be.
If he's not, I just I don't evenknow.
I don't even know what to say.
Throw my laptop in the air atthis point.
Like, I mean, if this guy isn'tdone after this, when your own
party is, you know, throwing youunder the bus saying, oh yeah,
this guy, you know, he was theone for sure.
And of course they're alsotrying to save their own skin
too.
SPEAKER_05 (49:14):
Yeah, you know.
So do you think do you think heresigns, or do you think that he
gets voted out of his minorityleadership role?
SPEAKER_03 (49:23):
Voted because he's too arrogant.
Okay.
Um, he's way too arrogant toresign.
He won't do it.
He will dig his, they will haveto yank him out of there by his
scrawny, liver spotted ankles,and just you know, drag him out
of there.
He doesn't want to lose thatgravy train if he wants to run.
Is it AOC?
Probably.
Yeah, I I would imagine so.
(49:45):
I would imagine.
Like, isn't that just hysteric?
SPEAKER_05 (49:49):
Like, so frightening it's not even funny.
SPEAKER_03 (49:52):
I it's at this point because it's all so surreal,
like it's so impossible tobelieve that this is real life,
that of course that's who it'llbe.
How could it not be her?
You know, and she's dumb enough,I think, because she's dumb
enough to be manipulated by thepeople who are really pulling
the strings there.
(50:12):
So they'll, you know, uh who'swho's better than her?
So even if they do yank ChuckyBoy out of there, you know, you
probably will still be a littlebit, at least to some degree,
some bit of a puppet master inthere because he he knows too
much.
You know, this is all all of youknow, all of these high-powered
people, whether it's uh politicsor uh celebrities for that
(50:33):
matter, um, they all have somuch dirt on each other.
Like this is how they this isthe game that they play.
It's all a game for them.
You know, anybody who thinksthat uh any of them care about
that this has anything to dowith us, we're just pawns in
their game.
Like, you know, I hate to bethat guy, that pessimistic, you
know, we're a guy, the uh whatis it from the Muppets, you
(50:56):
know, the guys up in the yeah,I'm like that guy right now, but
like I'm so, you know, you getreally jaded by this because you
can see what the game is.
And the game is just that it's agame for them, it's all about
them.
None of these people have walkedout of office, you know, um,
without being two, three, evenfour times as wealthy as when
(51:19):
they went in.
And that's right.
The numbers don't number.
So, yes.
So if he's gone, it'll bebecause they vote him out, but
he's not really gonna be gone.
So don't anybody do too big of ahappy dance.
SPEAKER_05 (51:33):
Yeah, I I think he will still, you know, as much as
everybody's written drunk Nancyoff, um, she still does hold a
lot of influence.
Um, even out of her position.
Um Schumer will be the same way.
Um, as long as he's in office,he'll still hold some some
influence, if not direct power.
Um I I don't know if it's her.
(51:54):
I think it is, um, but I thinkthere's enough infighting inside
the party, almost in the waythat like we were worried about,
you know, the independent vote.
SPEAKER_07 (52:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (52:05):
You know, right?
It's work, you know, we knowRoss Perot.
We've we talked about all theseevery time there's an
independent candidate, you know,the RFA, um, that it was going
to screw up the election.
I think there's enoughinfighting um inside of uh the
Democrat Party that it'll bevery much like the Chicago
mayoral election or theMinneapolis mayoral election,
(52:27):
where you know there's enoughpeople that are voting against
her and that somebody elsesomebody else will end up
sneaking in there as opposed toher.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (52:36):
Well, I'm sure, I'm sure uh Jeff Reese wants wants
in.
Um he's making a lot of powerplays.
SPEAKER_05 (52:42):
Yeah, there's a lot of um people you know that want
in or appear to.
I don't think it's her.
I hope it's probably will be.
So all right, let's talk aboutdumb women in politics.
SPEAKER_03 (52:55):
Do let's do that.
Oh my goodness.
This are so uh, you know, I Icalled uh I said about uh
Marjorie Taylor Green that shewas on the Apology tour.
Um uh Michelle Obama is on thewhen it's all about me tour.
When I've had it so hard,nobody's had it harder than me.
(53:16):
And now, surprise, surprise,she's not for the first time,
uh, railing against white peoplebecause we made her straighten
her hair.
I kid you not, I kid you not,folks.
If you did not see this already,um, let's just play this for
you.
(54:29):
Okay, so let me start by sayingI have never in all of my
fifty-four years given anythought to how another woman, a
a woman of another uh color orrace or anything, has styled
their hair.
I have never once stoppedsomebody and said, hey, you
(54:51):
straighten your hair right now.
And and I've actually pulled,very casually pulled lots of
people uh over the past day ortwo.
Um I haven't.
They're just in my commentsection all saying, I've
literally never even thoughtabout how black women style or
not style their hair.
I don't care.
(55:12):
So let's get that like really,really clear.
Uh also I could say that um as awhite slash Hispanic woman, um,
my hair is both curly andstraight.
It does whatever the heck itwants.
So I I don't know what to tellyou.
Sometimes I straighten it,sometimes I curl it, sometimes I
let it just be who it wants tobe.
(55:34):
Apparently, does she need doesshe need our permission to do
that?
Because I don't know.
I mean, last time I checked, shewas one of the most influential,
powerful women in the nation.
And she didn't use thatopportunity to, if she wanted to
wear her hair curly, I don'tknow, did she ever?
I have no idea.
I can't even remember how shestyled her hair.
(55:57):
That's how little I have evercared about that.
So what an offensive, entitled,arrogant, whiny, miserable woman
she is.
She is horrible.
And by the way, white women,white liberal women were pretty
close to literally bowing downat her feet.
(56:20):
So I'm pretty sure none of whatshe's saying holds any water
whatsoever.
So insulting.
If I cared enough to beinsulted, actually.
SPEAKER_05 (56:31):
So this is the this is the tip of the complaint
iceberg from former First LadyObama.
She has been complaining aboutthis, right?
Which is absurd.
Like you said, she's one of themost influential women,
arguably, in the world while shewas in the White House, um,
chose to bow down to socialpressures, which shows she has
(56:53):
no courage and no no realself-confidence of any kind,
intestinal fortitude.
I mean, if she if she bowed downon how she did her hair, then I
don't expect her to come throughon anything of any substance.
SPEAKER_07 (57:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (57:04):
Also, she has complained that that her and and
her husband had to pay forthings while they were in the
White House.
Um for those of you that don'tknow, um, the kitchen in the
White House, like their dailyfood that they are fed, they
have to pay for because it's notfree.
The president is paid more thananybody else in the federal
government, um, but that's for areason.
(57:25):
So they get a bill every monthfor the kitchen and uh they'll
pay for it.
She's complained about that.
Um, she has complained about howmuch time she had to spend in
public as the as the first lady.
She's complained about how muchtime she has has had to spend in
public since coming out of theWhite House, and yet she's
sitting on stage beinginterviewed of her own choice
(57:47):
about being the first lady,about and and complaining about
how much she hated being thefirst lady.
Right.
Okay.
So I I I don't I don't want tohear it.
She's lost it.
I she somebody said it the otherday.
I posted on social media, theysaid she is the Meghan Markle of
politics.
She sure is.
That you know, Meghan Markle,who has complained so much about
(58:08):
how invasive their lives were inEngland, and that's why they
came to the States and renouncedtheir titles and all of these
other things.
Um, but it Obama's doing she'sMichelle's doing the same thing.
Oh, I'm saying the first lady.
I like being on stage.
Right, I like being on stagebecause truthfully, if she
wasn't the first lady, no onewould be talking to her right
now.
Nobody would be talking aboutthe parents, no one would care.
(58:29):
She would be saying, she'd be alawyer in Chicago somewhere,
right?
Creating her life that way, too.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (58:35):
But this was designed to be miserable and
ungrateful.
SPEAKER_05 (58:38):
This is another person, very much like her
husband, yeah, who just needs toshut up and go away.
Definitely.
Like do what the otherpresidents and first ladies have
done once they have left office.
Right.
Fade into the woodwork.
That's what you're supposed todo.
Yeah.
But you choose not to, so Idon't want to hear any effing
complaints out of your mouth.
SPEAKER_03 (58:58):
Absolutely.
I love the irony too that she ison a book tour right now for a
book called Look or The Look orsomething like that.
And it is a picture book of her.
It's all pictures of her.
So she's literally going aroundsaying, Oh, I'm so tired of
everybody looking at me.
(59:19):
Please stop.
It's such a burden to be me.
SPEAKER_08 (59:21):
Look at me.
Look at me.
SPEAKER_03 (59:23):
Look at me in my book.
Look at this page, look at thispage, look at this page.
Stop looking.
Yeah.
Terrible.
I I it's just, oh my god, what ajoke.
A jerk.
Oh, Michelle Obama, you are ajerk.
You're just a jerk.
Go away.
And I can promise you, no onewill talk about your hair then
(59:45):
either.
So oh, and I live.
Let me just point out one morething in the beginning of that.
The next part of that, in thenext tour stop, she does, she's
gonna expand on that.
You watch, or somebody willexpand on that.
That um the reason why theydon't.
Did you catch that in thebeginning?
The reason why black women don'tswim or go to the gym is because
of their hair.
(01:00:06):
So now we're gonna get blamedfor obesity in black women.
That if we haven't or I think weactually already have been
blamed for that.
Pretty sure we have, but shewill she'll add to that.
She'll expand on that, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_05 (01:00:16):
Yeah, and there's there's other complaints too.
She's already said that uh, youknow, America's not ready for a
female president, um, you know,and it's because of of white
men.
She did say though that if thereis going to the first female
president will be a conservativewoman.
Uh she has said that.
Uh, she's also said, don't lookat me uh to to run because
(01:00:36):
America is not mature enough toelect a female president.
Um, you know, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
So all she's doing iscomplaining in public, and we're
all tired of listening to her,and she just needs to go away.
SPEAKER_03 (01:00:47):
Go away.
Go away.
Okay, so we're gonna go away inabout two seconds.
We want to once again wish youguys all a very happy
Thanksgiving.
And we can't wait.
We already can't wait to getback to you, and we're gonna
tell the news cycle to juststop.
Just stop until we get back toit, right?
Just pause everything until Clayand Elsa can get back to it.
Uh Clay, you close them out.
SPEAKER_05 (01:01:09):
All right, folks.
Thanks.
Uh thanks uh as always for forjoining us and uh and popping in
and being part of this.
We watch every week, we look.
I love seeing how many peopletune in.
Like Facebook numbers are crazy,literally thousands of people
watching, uh, which is alwaysawesome.
And we love you guys.
But uh, enjoy your Thanksgivinguh from Elsa and I, and uh as
always from me, keep moving,keep shooting.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:20):
Oh my goodness.
How are you, Clay?
SPEAKER_05 (00:22):
I'm good.
How are you?
SPEAKER_03 (00:23):
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm like in a weird spot.
I need to scooch over a littlebit.
Scooching over, guys.
Just humor me.
I need to be centered.
I should have done that before,but I wasn't paying attention.
What else is new?
Oh, so how are you?
Are you ready for Thanksgiving?
SPEAKER_05 (00:36):
I'm getting there.
Yes.
This is the uh season of kidscoming home from college and you
know, family get-togethers andall of those things.
And so, as a reminder, folks,Elsa and I will not have a show
next week.
We enjoy Thanksgiving and uhbeing around our families and
celebrating as much as everyoneelse.
And let's be honest, you guysaren't you're not tuning in on
Thursday night.
(00:57):
There's no way.
So um there will be no show nextweek.
But I am looking forward toThanksgiving.
How about you?
SPEAKER_03 (01:03):
So looking forward to it.
So we fly out on Monday, um, andwe will be in Florida with those
babies.
I can't wait uh forThanksgiving.
So I'm so excited.
I'm like practically jumping outof my skin.
You know, we FaceTime everysingle day, sometimes multiple
times a day, which is pureheaven for me.
And um, I just want to climbthrough that phone.
(01:23):
I can't even take it.
I'm losing my mind.
So yes, I'm I'm very excited.
I don't care.
We could we could have likeMcDonald's that day, and I
wouldn't even care.
I'd be like, it's perfect.
I love it.
So yeah, yes, I hope everybodyis uh excited and looking
forward to Thanksgiving andtheir family time, you know,
whatever whatever that means foryou.
I I hope it's uh I hope it'sgonna be wonderful for you all.
So speaking of wonderful, we'vegot uh a great show for
(01:46):
everybody, Clay, the king oftopics, pulled up uh some really
good stuff anyway.
Great job on having topics thatjust segue so perfectly.
They just like kind of like arolling tide, just roll right
into each other.
So a lot a lot of big stuff totalk about.
Um yeah, yeah, a lot of bigstuff.
SPEAKER_05 (02:04):
Yeah, and and listen, folks, um, it is
Wednesday.
Uh it is uh 4 30 Eastern time,uh, our normal recording time.
So I know there are things thathave happened in the in the last
probably 24 hours, 12 hours, orprobably tomorrow.
Um, but we can't cover it all,so uh we're going with what we
got.
SPEAKER_03 (02:24):
Yes, and we got some good ones.
Here they are.
Here's what's coming up.
SPEAKER_04 (02:27):
Tonight, Marjorie Taylor Green goes from Magama
Marge to CNN's newest stick ofman.
Jeffrey Epstein shows up textinga House Democrat during the
Cohen hearing, and Congressvotes to release the Epstein
files at last.
We dig into the Trumpassassination attempt and the
mystery of the missing digitalfootprint.
Ask whether Trump Doomer waswilling to wreck your
(02:47):
Thanksgiving to win a shutdownfight and finish with Michelle
Obama blaming white people forblack women's bad.
Elsa Curtain played Novak areyour host, and this is your
total bold truth.
Let's talk about it.
SPEAKER_03 (03:00):
So I I left it in there because it just made me
laugh.
Um, you know, AI, there's somegood things about it.
That's an AI voice that does ourlittle promos for us like that.
And it could not get MAGA.
It could not say MAGA.
It's gonna be from now on reallylike MAGA.
It's like it's like I feel likea parrot shouting, MAGA.
(03:22):
So I left it in because it mademe laugh.
But I just so you guys know, I Itried relentlessly for a solid
two minutes to get it to say,like I was spelling it all
different kinds of ways to getit to be able to pronounce it.
It was not getting it.
And I don't know, maybe it's uhmaybe it's a leftist run thing.
I mean purposely.
SPEAKER_05 (03:41):
And listen, folks, this is you're looking at the um
the stars, the production team,the uh distribution point, like
uh Elsa does all of this stuff.
So um, you know, don't hate onher on the AI thing.
Um, if any of you are willing tobe your announcer voice for
free, yeah, feel feel free tohear some seconds.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (04:01):
There's the catch fellas and ladies, whoever I
don't know.
So I I guess that was a littlesexist of me.
I do like for that.
I just I like that the malevoice better for that.
It's you know, I don't know,whatever.
I like it.
Sounds good.
So yeah, if anybody wants to dofor free, I mean, you know,
please do it.
Because by the way, I don't knowif you all know this or not, but
uh, we don't get paid to dothis.
This is our own, this is our ourbeloved, you know, pet project,
(04:24):
I guess we could call it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_05 (04:26):
It brings us to our events for over two years.
SPEAKER_03 (04:28):
Yes, over two years, exactly.
That's how much we love doingthis.
So yeah, so that because I thinkeverybody thinks that like we
make like you know, so muchmoney doing this, you're gonna
pay to do it.
I wish, man.
I wish.
That'd be cool.
SPEAKER_08 (04:42):
Yeah, one thing I'm done.
SPEAKER_03 (04:43):
No, and you know, the thing of it, and I you know,
we'll get into the topics, Ipromise, guys.
But you know, the thing of thisall is like people have asked,
like, well, don't you want tolike work for uh, I don't know,
like a day fire once upon a timewhere I thought I did watch
that.
Um, but the the reality is isthe minute you work for
somebody, they they kind of ownyour content.
They tell you what you're gonnatalk about, they tell you what
(05:04):
you're gonna say.
I mean, you get some say, um,but not as much as we do here.
We can say whatever the heck wewant, whenever we want, how we
want.
It doesn't, you know, so I likethat.
I don't like control, don't you?
SPEAKER_05 (05:16):
Yes, yeah, this is uh this is one of the best parts
of my week every week, and Ienjoy it.
And yeah, I don't I don't minddoing it for free.
SPEAKER_03 (05:24):
Ditto, same.
I mean, we're not to listen,we're not gonna turn down the
money within, you know.
I mean, listen, the right offercomes along.
We will take it.
SPEAKER_05 (05:32):
We will syndicate this in a heartbeat.
SPEAKER_03 (05:34):
In a heartbeat, under the right conditions with
the right everything.
If those stars align, we're notwe're not shutting it down.
But anyhow, anyhow, we got wegot big topics.
So uh Marjorie Taylor Green,she's like all over the news
right now, all over everything,including especially uh the the
mainstream media, the the leftrun world.
(05:55):
There she is on her like apologytour, I guess we're calling it,
right?
SPEAKER_05 (06:00):
Um she's um, you know, as folks, you know, I
assume all recognize her by now,Marjorie Taylor Green.
She's uh, you know, Republicanfrom Georgia's what their uh
fourth, 14th district, I guess.
You know, she's been in Congresssince 2020.
So she got elected in 2020,re-elected in 22, re-elected in
24, right?
She's running up again in 26.
(06:20):
Um and you know, she's runningto this um spat uh with the
president, specifically over umthe release of the Epstein
Files, Epstein Epstein Files.
Um, but she has gone.
Uh she's made claims against himthat he is turning his back on
the MAGA movement and and he'sturning his back on his on his
(06:41):
uh you know dedicated followers,including her.
Um she's almost, I hate to saythis, but it seems like she's
claiming ownership orresponsibility over the MAGA
movement.
Um, but I didn't realize untilwe started, I started doing more
research on her, it's really howfringy she is.
Like did you realize I I didn't,I guess I didn't realize I knew
she was a little off-pilter, butI didn't realize how fringy she
(07:05):
was.
SPEAKER_03 (07:05):
Yeah, so um my my thought was that she had like
kind of toned it down over theyears because that was the the
big thing about her in thoseearly years, that you know, why
so much you know, hate and andmockery was kind of poured on
her, uh the QAnon stuff, the youknow, all of her all of her
conspiracies and um, you know, alot of stuff that she was very,
(07:27):
very, very, very, you know, loveit, hate it, whatever.
Um, she was very bold in herbeliefs and statements.
And um, I actually got tointerview her uh, I don't know,
probably like four or five yearsago, uh at a at an event.
And I, you know, saw her speakfirst.
She spoke to the crowd.
And uh what she doesn't get ordidn't get credit for was um she
(07:50):
was actually an extremely goodspeaker, very motivational,
very, you know, there was noscript or whatever, no nothing.
And she was a very dynamicspeaker, very to the point of
what she was saying.
I was actually very impressedwith her going into it.
I I didn't have much of anopinion because there was so
much being of her.
Um, and then I got to interview,it was a very short interview,
(08:11):
maybe 10 minutes or so.
And uh, she was delightful, shewas very personable.
Um I I liked her.
I ended up, I walked away, youknow, liking her.
Um, maybe not liking everythingthat she said or how she said
it, but you know, nor are yousupposed to, nor is it normal to
like everything that somebodydoes and says 100% of the time.
Uh now we fast forward to now,and um, you know, she was.
(08:35):
I mean the thing of it was shewas basically, I I know you're
saying that she kind of istaking credit, you know.
So I will give her some creditand say she was like a MAGA hype
woman.
I mean, no question about it.
She gets, you know, shecertainly gets some credit, but
I don't know if she was like thewhole the whole deal, the most
responsible.
Um, but anyhow, she's she's beengoing on CNN and uh the view.
(08:56):
And here's the here's the phonicattention, really, with this
now.
Um, basically apologizing forbeing a part of toxic politics.
And I I had to think about thisfor a while, Clay, because you
know, when I looked at what shewas saying, the actual words
that she was saying, it's like,yes, I I like this.
I agree with this sentimentthat, you know, let's step away
(09:21):
from uh being part of toxicpolitics.
And you know, all this it'sgross, it's disgusting, it's
unbecoming, it's all of thethings that we've become that
are an embarrassment to us.
So on its face, I could agreewith her and say this is a
wonderful thing to say.
Here are the problems.
It's who she's saying it to, whoshe is kind of like bowing down
(09:44):
to.
We do so here, so here she is onthe view.
Let's uh and there's so much totalk about here from what she's
saying, who she's saying it to,her demeanor, uh, everything.
So let's watch this together.
SPEAKER_02 (09:56):
I think that all of us right here are doing a great
job of exchanging our ideas andthings that we believe in, and
we're doing it in a veryprofessional and kind way.
And I don't know more aboutthat, America.
I really do.
And a lot of people wanted me tocome on the show and say nasty
things and and you know, all ofus to find all of this to find
(10:29):
to do that today because Ibelieve the people with powerful
voices like myself and like you,and especially women to women,
we need to cave a new fastcountry, our beautiful country,
our red, white, and blue uh flagis just being ripped to shreds.
And I think it takes women to ofmaturity to sew it back
(10:50):
together.
SPEAKER_03 (10:51):
And I think that's how so many things.
The way that they wereresponding and reacting to her,
so disrespectful, socondescending and rude.
Uh, joy, nasty, miserable joy.
I heard the contradiction there,purposeful.
(11:13):
Um there's there's it's fiveagainst one.
Is that what she said?
It's five against one.
What's she gonna do?
You know, so here she is tryingto make nice, and they're
throwing these snide littlecomments, the expressions, like
all of these things.
This is and her saying that likewe're all being, you know,
basically we're being nice toeach other, and and you know,
(11:34):
you're a powerful, strong woman.
No, you're not.
You're mean, nasty, vicious,cackling hens, first of all, who
spread lies deliberately, spreadlies about her, bashed her all
over the place, and now she'scoming on there and essentially
part of my language, kissingtheir asses, which is gross.
This is not this isn't peoplewith opposing views coming
(11:58):
together mutually to uh moveforward, to like work a way
forward that everybody can bepeaceable.
This is her going on the pleaseforgive me, I want to be your
friend tour right now.
And they are like, okay, kissthe ring.
Go ahead, kiss the ring, and wewill we'll forgive you.
(12:19):
That's the truth of what thatall the optics of that.
Do you agree or disagree?
SPEAKER_05 (12:23):
No, she's campaigning, is what she's
trying to do.
And and what she's trying to dobecause President Trump has
pulled his endorsement of her,which is uh, you know, a death
blow uh within the party at thispoint.
Having his endorsement doesn'tguarantee you're gonna win your
election against a Democrat as aRepublican, but not having his
(12:44):
endorsement as a Republicanguarantees that you will lose.
And so what she is trying to dois make up ground and she's
trying to appease, buy into buyvotes, get votes from truthfully
a liberal crowd that would neverhave voted for her, supported
her until this very moment.
(13:04):
Right.
So I mean, she is a Mago hatwearing, you know, in Congress
kind of person.
Um but now she is on the outs,she's in the cold.
So she's gotta find thosewithout President Trump's
endorsement, she is gonna losevotes.
And if she wants to stay inoffice, she's gonna have to find
votes elsewhere.
So she's making price with theenemy.
That's what she's doing.
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I mean, for lack of a betterterm, that's what she's doing.
So is she kissing their ass?
Of course she is.
Um allowing them to be thatcondescending, nitpicky, you
know, cackling hen.
Of course she is.
Um you know, six months ago,eight months ago, nine months
ago, uh, especially during theelection, a year ago, she would
(13:46):
have been on that show and shewould have been slinging with
them at every opportunity.
But now that she's on the outs,she's running to not just the
view, but also CNN and playingthis whole like, you know, I I
don't support President Trump inthis, or I disagree with
President Trump in this.
And and she's, you know, becauseshe's been cut away, now she's
(14:07):
distancing herself on purposebecause she knows she can't win
inside the Red Party without hisendorsement.
So she's got to go and dip intothe blue to see if she can
retain her seat in Congress,which she's not gonna do.
I can promise you that she isgoing to be out of office at the
end of this term without hisendorsement.
And and instead of she's kissingthe wrong ass.
(14:28):
I hate to say it.
If she ever.
If you're if you wear red andyou've got an R behind your name
and you want to stay in office,there's one ass kissed.
Let me tell you something.
Yeah, that's right.
Um, and and it certainly isn'tthose five ladies, it's not CNN,
it's not MSNBC, and all theseother outlets that she's
courting, um, or even the voterswithin her district.
(14:49):
She has got to be on the side ofPresident Trump if she wants a
shot in hell.
SPEAKER_03 (14:52):
And she just blew it, she really she blew it so
bad.
I I I'm just I'm flabbergastedthat I mean, who is in her
corner speaking to her saying,do this, don't do that, don't do
this, do that.
I I mean, clearly no one is isguiding her in any direction.
She just is going off the railsand making absolutely stupid
(15:13):
decisions because anyone who wason her side, that is, MAGA, is
now saying, and I'm sure she'sgot some support, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Um, but overall, it's not goingto be nearly enough to to write
this ship for her because thisis uh when you had let's put it
this way, when you have JasmineCrockett saying, Listen, do I
have this idea?
SPEAKER_07 (15:31):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:32):
Yeah, when you have Jasmine Crockett saying this,
this and for anybody who'slistening, um Jasmine Crockett
tweeted on X.
She said, This almost feels likea moment where Marge should
phone a friend.
I'm here for you, girl.
I told you not to trust him.
All he cares about is himselfand protecting Petobs.
He never loved you.
My granny always said, be withthe man that loves you more than
(15:55):
you love him.
Trust me, sis, you are betteroff without him.
The gwoles are fighting.
I can't even believe that I saidthat.
That's a stupid word.
I don't know what that iseither.
And I don't even want to know.
I don't care.
Um, but if that is who is nowtweeting support for you, by the
way, that's the same JasmineCrockett that called uh Marjorie
(16:16):
Taylor Green, let's have and getthis right, a bleach blonde,
butch-built body.
Uh something else, somethingelse.
But that's the gist of um, youknow, how she referred to her.
And that was, of course, afterum Marjorie Taylor Green made
fun of her eyelashes, her, youknow, spider on her eyes.
Um, yeah, if that if that's whoyou have have now just gained
(16:38):
the support from, um, you have amuch bigger problem than you
even could even realize.
So, and and you tell me if youheard this.
Now, I heard I heard that umthis is just a rumor that I know
of.
Supposedly Trump to her or spoketo her about her numbers
privately, basically said, like,look, you don't have the
(16:59):
support, so don't do this.
Um, and she wanted to runanyway, wanted to keep going
forward with this anyway.
And so he had no choice.
So supposedly the rumor was thathe tried to tell her privately,
quietly, like, don't, it was notgonna, it's not a good move for
you.
And she didn't want to hear it,and that's why she's all mad.
And now she's like running withit.
And now she's now she made himmad.
SPEAKER_05 (17:21):
Well, I I mean, I I hadn't heard that rumor.
It makes a lot of sense.
Um and and you know, PresidentTrump is if he knows that her
numbers are bad, that guy'snever gonna back a known loser.
Like that's right.
So um, you know, and I think astight as things are in the
voting lines in Congress, one ortwo matters.
(17:43):
So um, you know, she's takenthis, she's probably gonna take
the next year plus a little overa year, as a lame duck
opportunity to be very positive,um, which does not bode well, I
can say it for the RepublicanParty.
She's gonna be the fly in theointment.
Um, and I think she probablythought because of that, she had
some bargaining power with thepresident to say, you know, no,
(18:05):
I'm gonna do this, and you needme, you know, you're gonna
endorse me, you're gonna helpme, you're gonna keep me in
office because I'm in office nowand you need me to accomplish
things over the next year.
Um, and if you don't help me,then I'm gonna be a pain in the
ass.
And so I think that's thedirection she's taking.
SPEAKER_07 (18:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (18:21):
Um, I mean, she's always been a bit of a pain.
I mean, her and Lauren, uh,Lauren Boebert had it out, you
know, whatever it was two yearsago.
Um, and again, she's always beenuh, you know, throw the chart up
and you know, and all thosethings.
She's always been mildlydisruptive, you know, people
called her feisty or they, youknow, whatever.
Beauty's in the eye of thebeholder at this point.
You know, if she's on your team,she's feisty.
(18:42):
If she's not on your team, she'sdisruptive.
Um but but um I think she missedthe mark on this one.
I think that she really believesthat she had or has the
president in a corner and thathe had no choice but to endorse
her.
And the reality is that he's notgonna do it.
He's not gonna back a loser, henever has.
SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
No, no, he never has.
Yeah.
Um, you know, and and again, uhher actual words, because I'm
sure, and I don't know this, Idon't know this, I haven't seen
it yet.
Um, her actual words, here's theirony, are good.
In in like in essence, right?
Like the let's stop the toxicpolitics, let's, you know, let's
(19:20):
come together, let's do thethings.
But she, of all people, shouldknow that the people that we're
up against, she's up against,are not the people who are
willing to compromise and makegood.
Like, this is not like, and she,how can you not know this?
So I think your assessment isspot on because that's the only
thing that would make sense thatshe's you know trying to
(19:42):
rebrand, trying to appeal to,you know, a different uh crowd
now.
And um, uh, you know, hey, goodluck to you.
Marge.
Good luck, you're gonna need it.
unknown (19:53):
Marge.
SPEAKER_05 (19:54):
Marge.
Um, yeah, she's you know, um,she's she is rapidly gonna
become a sideshow uh inCongress.
Um you know, and and she's gonnafind herself completely out of
office.
It's not it, I if she survivesthe 26th election, uh, it'll be
shocking.
Uh you know, it'll be her andher and Fetterman passing in the
(20:15):
hallway as the two people onthe, you know, abandoned or
orphaned, you know, by their ownparty.
Uh and and really offsettingeach other.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:23):
So maybe they'll join together and run as
independence for something atsome point, you know.
I mean, that might be their onlyI mean, not that it's gonna give
them much of a chance ofanything, but at least it'll
make them feel good, I guess.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_05 (20:34):
But listen, that is that is far from the weirdest
thing happening in Congressright now.
SPEAKER_03 (20:38):
Oh my word.
What the heck, bro?
Just channeled my inner12-year-old boy, I guess.
I don't even know what that was.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_05 (20:50):
So we've got, you know, um, obviously there's a
we're gonna talk uh at Epsteinin in a um a couple of segments
here, but but this one isextremely interesting because uh
what has been revealed as thesepieces and parts of the file are
being released is that StaceyPlaskett, Plaskett, Plaskett,
whatever it is, who is anon-voting member of Congress.
(21:12):
So she is a Democrat, she's fromthe U.S.
Virgin Islands, which means shesits in there, she represents
the Virgin Islands, she doesn'tget to vote.
Um, keep in mind uh EpsteinIsland was part of the U.S.
Virgin Islands.
Also keep in mind Epstein helpedher get into office.
Um but while there was a in2019, uh while there was a trial
(21:36):
going on, a hearing, not atrial, but a hearing in
Congress, um, that that you knowhad Epstein on it, you know, his
name was all over it, and he wasin jail.
Um Stacy Plaskett, Democrat, USVirgin Islands, was texting him.
Yeah.
First of all, am I the onlyperson who found it appalling
that he had a cell phone to betext messaging with in jail?
SPEAKER_03 (22:00):
Seriously, yeah, yeah.
We can take a pause and put apin in that, right?
SPEAKER_05 (22:04):
Like, this is a white collar crime guy.
This isn't a guy who was, youknow, like embezzling money or
you know, stealing identities.
This guy was a pedophile, humantrafficker, like historically
horrific crimes.
Yes, yet still had a cell phone.
Um, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (22:24):
Yeah, everybody just like process that for a moment
because just yet anotherindicator of how much power this
guy was wielding over all ofthese other people.
Like, no wonder this is alltaking so long.
But yeah, so yes, texting,texting with him, um even
saying, quick, I'm up next.
(22:46):
Yeah.
For him to right to hurry up andtell her what to say.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (22:50):
This wasn't like the night before she's doing her
prep or the weeks before she'sprepping for this thing.
This is as the trial, this isthey have the digital footprint
of this, folks, and the timing.
So they know the timing of this,verify during this hearing.
She said exact exactly what yousaid, Elsa.
Hurry, I'm up next.
I need to know who Rona is.
(23:11):
Is that an acronym?
Because it was R-O-N-A-CapitalLetters.
unknown (23:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (23:15):
Um, and he's like, Oh no, that's President Trump's,
that's Trump's personalassistant.
She's in an office right acrossthe hall from him.
If anybody knows about any ofthis stuff, it's her, she knows
everything that's going on.
So he's filling her in ondetails, and then you can watch
the timing.
I don't know if you saw this,but somebody laid out the timing
of the text messages against thetiming of the hearing.
And and she, so as itapproaches, right, he answers
(23:38):
that question on who Rona was,and then she asks a question
that says, you know, so and soand so-and-so, and Rona and
Rona, and who's Rona?
Who's Rona?
And you know, um, the person onthe stand was what's his name?
Trump's old lawyer that went tojail.
God, I can see his Facebookalready like the disgusting
human being.
Anyway, um, and and uh he said,Oh yeah, that's that's President
(23:59):
Trump's personal assistant, youknow, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Um, and then she messaged backto Epstein, and he even told
her, good job, as the trial wasgoing on.
SPEAKER_03 (24:12):
Insane.
Insane.
Like, are you kidding me rightnow?
SPEAKER_05 (24:19):
Known folks, this is after he's been convicted.
This was not in prison waitingfor trial.
Yeah, he is Epstein that theworld knows.
Yes, he's that guy.
She is texting him while injail, right?
While he's in jail, during atrial, to get advice,
encouragement, and and guidancefrom him.
SPEAKER_03 (24:40):
Yeah.
And meanwhile, you know, the theleft is hearing this, right?
Mainstream media, the left ishearing this, and you know,
they're like, oh, let's see,hmm, televised uh hearing aimed
at taking down Trump.
Um, Epstein is feeding, youknow, lines to to them there
right while this is all goingon.
(25:00):
Yeah, nothing to see here.
Let's move on.
SPEAKER_05 (25:04):
So her law professor, her law professor is
in Congress right now, RaspberryDemocrats.
Oh, right.
Yes.
So folks, they they put forth uhan effort to censure her from
Congress, which truthfully, inher capacity as representing the
Virgin Islands and not beingable to vote on anything was
really kind of a gesture oflike, hey, you're a horrible
human being, you know, you needto go away.
(25:26):
Which didn't pass, by the way,which is just as disturbing as
the rest of this stuff.
Yeah.
Um, but in that censure hearing,her former law school professor,
Raskin, Democrat, got up thereand defended her and literally
justified what she was doing bysaying she was just speaking
with one of her constituents.
That's all she was doing.
What's wrong with that?
(25:46):
He was just a constituent fromher district.
There's you we're we're allowedto do that.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with that.
This is not, this isjustification.
This is a congressperson, anelected official justifying this
by saying that, as if we're alla bunch of idiots.
SPEAKER_03 (26:02):
Yep.
These are truly the worst peopleon on the planet.
These are horrible, horriblehuman beings.
They are beyond the pale,disgusting.
And if you think I'mexaggerating, let's remind you
again again what Epstein was inprison and convicted of and for.
(26:23):
Like, do we forget what that is?
So, yeah, when I say that Ithink they are some of the most
vile human beings on the planet,I absolutely mean it 100%.
That is just disgusting.
And you know, and as with somany times when we're talking
about this in particular, uh,this case in particular, and
(26:44):
anything like it, I it's just soI'm I'm angered to exhaustion.
Like, like I've gotten so angryand and horrified and disgusted
by this all that I'm likeemotionally exhausted from it.
And and I think we all are.
I think I speak for so manypeople when I say that.
(27:05):
And we just shouldn't be, weshouldn't allow ourselves to get
exhausted by it because then youstart getting apathetic towards
it.
And I think we're I think we'realso largely at that point
because again, like what's gonnahappen?
Is anything happening?
I mean, are we well?
I guess that can move us rightinto that, right?
SPEAKER_05 (27:22):
I mean before we go too far, there go ahead as as
these bits and pieces are comingout, right?
So we've seen these textmessages.
There's been a little bit morewhile he was in jail, Epstein
correspondence that has come tothe surface.
Um, there's been correspondencereleased between him and Hakeem
Jeffries, oh, by the way, as hewas looking for money, right?
(27:45):
Donations and and and all ofthat, but also um a Harvard, I
think he was the president,former president of Harvard,
continued to uh uh seek uh uhadvice from Epstein.
Get this on how to uh approach,converse, and have a
(28:09):
relationship with a young womanhe was mentoring.
SPEAKER_03 (28:12):
Seriously, I did not know this.
This was new to me.
SPEAKER_05 (28:15):
So this guy has now apologized and has said he is
gonna back away from publiclife.
Um, I think he was a formerpresident of Harvard.
He was at Harvard, he was a bigwig.
Um, but but yeah, like knowinglike this is people knew who he
was.
That's proof positive, right?
Yes, people knew that he was adisgusting human being, they
knew what he was doing.
(28:35):
This guy was actually solicitingadvice on how to do the things
that Epstein does from Epsteinwhile he's in jail, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_03 (28:44):
Yeah, and and again, tell me they're not disgusting,
horrible, repugnant humanbeings.
SPEAKER_05 (28:50):
Embrace yourself, folks, because again, next
topic, we're about to hear, see,know, find out all kinds of
things about all kinds ofpeople.
SPEAKER_03 (29:01):
Yes, yep, yes, we are about to uh get what we
asked for, basically.
I mean, um, and and you know, wewhen we first were talking about
this, we were we we did you andI did talk about um exactly that
kind of bracing for what's inthere because a lot of people, I
don't think we will be, maybewe'll be, but um I think a lot
(29:22):
of people are gonna be, theywill be shooketh to their core.
Yeah.
Right.
Um, because there are going tobe names and people that you may
have held in some esteem to somedegree, and um so many houses of
cards are gonna be coming down.
(29:42):
And and you know, I hope that'swhat's gonna happen.
And and I hope that's what'sgonna, even if it's somebody
that I like and admire um fromafar.
Uh if you are any part of this,I want to see you go down, I
want to see you fall, I want tosee every one of them fall from
grave.
And lose everything.
And, you know, because again,the thing that gets overlooked
(30:06):
so often is the actual victims,the actual victims of all of
this who are living with this asa daily part of their existence.
And they are forever changed andnot for the good because of
this.
One woman is dead.
You know.
It's just absolutely horrific tome.
SPEAKER_05 (30:26):
Yeah.
So Congress voted yesterday,again, recording on Wednesday.
Um they voted yesterday to dofull release of all of the
upstate documents.
Um that passed.
I think there was one person whovoted.
SPEAKER_03 (30:40):
One, yeah.
It was um 427 to one.
unknown (30:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (30:44):
And it was, was it a Republican?
I I don't remember who it was.
SPEAKER_03 (30:48):
Higgins?
SPEAKER_06 (30:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (30:49):
Yeah, to me, and I'm not making excuses, folks.
Yeah.
There should have been likethat, should have been a clean
sweep.
Should have been.
No excuse.
I think that may have been aprocedural, like, I disagree
with this because one of thethings that's not being
redacted, my understanding, arethe names of the victims.
So as this comes out very clean,this is why this has been so
(31:12):
back and forth, and is, youknow, because one of the hangups
administratively was protectingthe victims in this.
Um, but you know, we've allgotten to the point where we're
just like, you know, hey,release the files.
Um, and and so I I think maybe,and I'm not making an excuse,
(31:34):
but I think maybe that oneperson, it was a procedural,
it's not that they disagreednecessarily with releasing the
files to protect anybody oranything.
I think it may have been a hey,administratively, I think this
is there's something wrong withthis.
Regardless, it passedoverwhelmingly, one no, and it
is on the president's desk.
The question that we're allasking is like, is he gone?
(31:56):
Is he on a plane somewhere?
We're not gonna Biden auto penthis thing.
No, like no auto pen.
He's he's gonna sign it, but thequestion is why is he not in the
office today?
Which may be the reason.
I don't know.
Could be, but yeah, I mean he'sa busy guy, like the guy doesn't
sit around.
SPEAKER_03 (32:12):
No, he definitely does not.
But it would have been nice ifthey could have like, you know,
just airdropped it to him orsomething.
SPEAKER_05 (32:19):
Okay, trust that one to the cloud.
Just saying.
SPEAKER_06 (32:22):
Fair enough, fair enough.
SPEAKER_05 (32:24):
I I think, you know, I think there's gonna be some
maybe they're bombshells, maybethey're not.
I think some of these are umknown to people or at least
anticipated.
I think there's someanticipation that we're gonna
find out that one of the reasonsthat Epstein was so protected is
because he was an intelligenceasset.
Um, and I think you know, DOJand some other folks are gonna
(32:46):
have to probably bring CIA inand some of the stuff's gonna
have to be declassified.
Um, I think that's part of it.
Um it would not surprise me ifand listen, folks, we're not
saying that Epstein was a CIAagent, um, but he, if you think
about it, if there was a personwho could collect and have dirt
on hundreds of people, powerfulpeople around the world that
(33:07):
could be used for intelligencegathering reasons, he's the guy.
Um, so you know, as and itdoesn't make the CIA complicit
in this.
I think they should have steppedin if they knew anything about
it, regardless.
But I I think we're gonna findout that he was an intelligence
asset or at least in contactwith the CIA.
I think we're also gonna findout, and this is on the low end
(33:28):
of the rumor scale, but I'veheard this a couple of places,
is that the FBI whistleblower isnone other than President Trump
himself.
SPEAKER_03 (33:35):
Hmm, yeah.
I would I yeah, I mean, I couldsee that easily.
Well, they've got, you know, andI don't have it, guys.
Um, there's a video from him oflike in 2015.
Yep.
Specifically calling out uhEpstein Island and uh saying
something about uh PrinceAndrew, yeah, um, who's lost
(33:58):
been stripped of all his titlesand everything.
They just call him Andy now.
Yeah, Andy.
Yeah, Andy.
Uh yeah, good old Andy.
He said, ask Andrew about it.
He can tell you.
And you know, you got a littlesmirk on his face.
You're like, go ahead, ask him.
He's got some stories for you ifyou want to hear him.
And that got kind of likebreezed over back then.
He was talking about it longbefore anybody else was.
(34:20):
So, you know, he's the one thatkind of put some eyes on it,
really.
Like, what's the 1791?
SPEAKER_05 (34:26):
What is it?
So I think that is that has thepotential to be in there that he
is the person who really blewthe lid off this thing.
Um, which I think would be like,I think that's one of the
reasons if that's true, and Iactually think it is true, that
is probably the primary reasonwhy these documents sat for four
years under the Bidenadministration, because they did
not want to give Trump any herostatus of any kind ever at all.
(34:48):
Right.
Um, so don't be surprised,folks, if something like that is
in there, maybe not thatspecific, although I think
that's what it is.
Um, between that and then againthe CIA being somewhat complicit
uh in what was going on if theywere using him as an
intelligence asset and knowingwhat was going on.
Um, but also there's some thingsin there I I know and you know
that when all these names arereleased, there's gonna be some
(35:10):
pretty powerful people that werebeing protected.
Yes.
Um and uh I can't wait.
I really can't.
Even if that have you seenthere's a couple of like you
know they're fakes that are outthere in social media.
There's like this, you know,page with like three or four
columns of names, yeah.
Which is ridiculous.
(35:30):
Yeah.
Um, but like if half of that, ifa third of that is true, like
it's gonna be earth-shatteringfor a lot of people.
Um so and and we're all we'regonna see politicians, we're
gonna see athletes, we're gonnasee businessmen, we're gonna see
um entertainment, you know,music, actors.
There's gonna be smatterings ofall kinds of people on there.
Yeah.
And uh I can't wait.
SPEAKER_03 (35:51):
Burn them to the ground, burn it to the ground,
please.
Start fresh, scorched earth onthis.
I please just burn it all.
Yeah, and and I and I don'tknow.
I like I I actually kind of wantto pray on this that Trump is
the the the one.
Like, I oh, that would bring meso much joy.
I can't even begin to tell youhow much joy, just to throw it
(36:13):
right at him like, oh,everything he thought, you know.
I mean, the biggest tell here islike if they really had all of
this uh stuff on Trump, youknow, because they're still
trying to, you know, likeTrump's on it, Trump's on it,
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump,Trump.
You mean to tell me, you know,they did everything that they
could possibly think of todestroy Trump and any chance at
the presidency for him this timearound.
(36:33):
I mean, last time too, but um ifthey had stuff on him and they
were sitting on it, of coursethey would have released it if
they had it.
Because I mean, that is thesimplest fact of all.
If they had it, it would havebeen released a long time ago.
So, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (36:52):
Listen, folks, you don't fabricate something like
Russia collusion if you havesomething that is concrete
evidence of a real crime.
SPEAKER_03 (36:59):
Yeah, exactly.
Especially something that is soincredibly vile.
So, yeah, give give it up, guys,give it up.
Uh, since we are still on theTrump train talking about our
buddy there, uh, let's keepgoing.
This one, Clay.
Oh my word.
You go ahead.
You go on.
SPEAKER_05 (37:16):
Yeah, Thomas Crooks is who we're talking about.
This is the Butler PA uhshooter, the kid who's dead.
Uh so the one of the things thathas been not been publicly
released uh in the year plussince the assassination attempt
is his digital footprint.
And for a while there, we wereeven being told that he didn't
have one, which we all know iscrazy.
There's there's nobody, youknow.
(37:38):
I I'm pretty sure the DalaiLama's got a digital footprint
at this point.
SPEAKER_03 (37:41):
He totally does, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (37:43):
So yeah, but there was no, there was this, you
know, hey, the kid doesn't haveanything, we don't know
anything, we can't, you know,and and the FBI, of course, has
had it all along.
Um, a lot of it was beingprotected, hidden, um, partially
because of an investigation, butalso partially because it was in
the hands of the Bidenadministration for a while.
Um, but what we're finding outabout this kid is that for a
(38:05):
long time he was a Trumpsupporter as a teen as a
teenager, like not even oldenough to vote yet, I don't
think.
Um big, you know, umconservative, really to a point
of being violent.
Um, some of the statements thathe made, I don't know if you
have seen any of these, but it'slike, you know, we should be
like these anti-MAGA, you know,people should get shot in the
(38:26):
head with an AR-15 and like allthis crazy, you know, super
violent tendency.
And then all of a sudden in2020, there was a switch.
SPEAKER_07 (38:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (38:34):
And he went from loving President Trump to hating
President Trump.
And they found a correlationwith a Norwegian YouTube account
that the guy or the theindividual they can tell, I
don't think they know who thatperson is, but they do have
enough digital signature to findout that this person was
(38:55):
associated with essentially aNorwegian version of Antifa on a
left-wing nut job.
Um, and and so they're findingthat that you know crooks was
talking to this individualthrough YouTube, and that's
about the time that he turnedfrom being a violently
supporter, a violent supporterof President Trump to a violent
(39:18):
opposer of President Trump.
Um and then and then you canimagine the waterfall effect uh
that led to Butler PA.
Um, but what they're alsofinding out is go figure with a
kid who's as mentally unstableas this young man was.
Um he also had you know weirdsexual tendencies on top of
everything else.
(39:38):
Again, go figure.
Um and I'm not gonna get toodeep into that because it's
gross and it's uncomfortable,and like nobody's really you
just need to know he was intosome weird stuff, people.
If you really want to go andlook it up, you can look it up.
But he was into some weirdstuff.
Um, but now all of a suddenwe've got this digital
footprint.
And where where does that sitwith you?
Like this has been over, youknow, what how many months has
(40:01):
it been now?
SPEAKER_03 (40:02):
Right.
Yeah, I don't even know.
But yeah, yeah, something likethat.
Um, yeah, you know, obviouslyeverything I think we're all
kind of thinking somewhere alongthe same lines that like, you
know, the one being how comewe're just finally hearing
something about this?
You know, we we have you know,everyone else, close to everyone
else, within minutes, we havethese people's life stories.
(40:23):
We know everything about them,you know, information, and
granted, yes, a lot of times alot of false information comes
out first and all of thosethings, but nonetheless, I mean,
you find everything very, veryquickly.
So one would be why was thisscrubbed, or why or was this all
scrubbed or suppressed, um,unlike anyone else?
(40:45):
Uh the this the shift, like whois this person that got a hold
of this kid?
And yes, there's already so youalready have somebody um who's
clearly got some mental illnessgoing on.
Um this is something they hearall the time about the CIA using
people, you hear these, butthey're not even rumors.
It's true.
Like this is a documented thing.
(41:05):
This is true.
CIA will use people like this tothey'll they'll mess with them
basically and get them to dothings.
So, you know, is this a case ofthat?
Who is hiding all of this?
Who is this kid?
Who is all of the things?
There's so many questions here,and still, I mean, this is a
(41:27):
little bit of potential insight,um, but there's still way too
many questions for somethingthat should have been long
resolved and and handled alreadyat this point.
Um, you've got Tucker Carlson,of course, and others on the
right are saying that the FBIlied or at least misled the
public about his digitalfootprint and possible
(41:48):
ideological leanings.
Um, and by the way, youmentioned it was like 2020, so
we're talking about COVID time.
Um, so now you've got isolation.
You know, you've got a greatpoint.
SPEAKER_07 (41:58):
That's it.
Right?
SPEAKER_03 (41:59):
You've got yeah, you've got all of these factors
that so you have somebody who isalready uh experiencing
psychological, emotionaldistress.
Now you're isolating them, andnow there's somebody online that
has this continuous access tothis mentally unstable person,
and they make this completedramatic flip of where their
(42:23):
attention and you know hatred uhis getting focused on.
A lot of questions here, and Istill don't really know if we're
ever gonna get the actualanswers.
SPEAKER_05 (42:33):
Yeah, I mean it's 2025.
We're still not sure aboutidentity in 63 years.
SPEAKER_03 (42:39):
Yeah, I mean, so the reality is this, you know, maybe
in um, you know, maybe in 50years or so we'll we'll find
out.
Yeah, pretty sure it won't bealive for us.
SPEAKER_05 (42:48):
This is uh I listen, I have a lot of um, I personally
have a lot of understanding andtolerance for the we're not
gonna disrupt an ongoinginvestigation.
Sure.
Okay.
You know, I mean you understandthat as a as a LEO wife, right?
We all we all get that.
SPEAKER_07 (43:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (43:06):
There are some people who don't, and that and
okay, that's why FOIA exists,and that's why you've got people
like Tucker Carlson who areupset with the FBI.
And I I think the hard part isthat the FBI essentially said we
have nothing, or at leastallowed the public to assume or
believe that they had nothingwhen they actually had
something.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (43:25):
And why wouldn't you just say that?
SPEAKER_05 (43:27):
Exactly.
I would prefer that they wouldcome out and say, listen, we we
have information about ThomasCrooks, we have pieces of his
digital footprint, we arecontinuing to investigate um and
leave it at that, right?
Now, I'm sure somebody, youknow, along the way when it was
under the high hands of theBiden administration, yes, I'm
(43:49):
sure there were things that werebeing covered up.
No question in my mind.
However, when it transitionedover, Kafka Patel took over Dan
Bongino, there could this couldhave been handled very
differently uh from the get-go.
So um now, what we don't know iswhat's going on inside of the
FBI, right?
What's going on below KashPatel?
He's not personallyinvestigating the assassination
attempt of the president, he'sresponsible for the people that
are.
(44:09):
So they may have had this stuffsitting on a desk or in a filing
cabinet somewhere that theychose not to bring forward for
whatever reason.
I don't know, none of us know.
Um, but I think handled wrong,truthfully.
Um, this was uh mishandled, andI think you're right.
I think we're, you know, it's15, 16 months beyond the event
itself.
(44:30):
We will probably never know.
And listen, for the Americanpublic, I'll vote, I'll I'll
speak for the American public.
Nothing is more frustrating thannot having the information and
and being allowed or conspiracytheories being allowed to build
because that's what's happening.
SPEAKER_03 (44:49):
Yeah.
Um, that's yeah, you're soright, Clay.
SPEAKER_05 (44:53):
It's feeding the QAnon, it's feeding the
conspiracy theorists, it'sfeeding all that crap when just
a little bit of information cankeep that stuff at bay.
And they choose not to.
SPEAKER_03 (45:02):
Yeah, you're so right.
That it that is the the highestfrustration here that you know,
just a give a give something,give a little bit.
Like you said, you know, it's anongoing investigation.
We can't release certain bits ofinformation.
We know lots of things aboutlots of stuff, but we can't talk
about it because it's anongoing.
Like, just say that.
Don't, you know, I mean, we'realready, we're already so uh
(45:28):
steeped in everything being alie, you know, like nobody
believes it's anything, nobodybelieves anything that's coming
out of anybody's mouths anymore,between AI, between, you know,
mistrust in the government,between the, you know, political
warfare against each other onboth sides.
(45:48):
Like nobody believes anything.
So try and dispel some of thatby just putting the truth out
there.
And yes, there's always going tobe the Tucker Carlsons and the
Candace Owens of the world thatare going to look for a
conspiracy in the mostnon-conspiratal things.
Like that's how they make themoney.
It's literally how theyfunction, it's their job, it's
what they do.
But for the rest of us, likewe're so fatigued from all of
(46:11):
it.
Like, just tell us the freakingtruth, just give us something
that we can believe, you know.
But I don't know.
Oh my god, I'm so tired.
Like, I need the I need ourlittle, I need our Thanksgiving
break.
People make me these people makeme so angry as I let up about
it.
Oh, what else we got?
Uh let's see.
Oh, let's talk about this guyhere, Schumer.
(46:32):
Talk about conspiracy.
Yeah, right.
Yes, yeah.
I mean, listen, I I'm so youknow, I'm still mad, but I'm so
grateful that this is resolvedfor Thanksgiving travel.
Because yes, guys, it's allabout me and my travel.
It is, it is.
But uh yeah, after the 40 plusdays of the longest government
shutdown in American history,the Senate finally blinked.
(46:54):
Flights are melting down.
Uh, I don't know what thatmeans.
I think I'm just reading thatwrong.
Families were sweating uhThanksgiving travel.
Yes, I was, and everyone in DCsport was the other guy's fault.
Um, so did Chuck Schumer drag itout to hurt Trump and knowledge?
That might feel like it's ano-brainer.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (47:11):
So well, there's there's confirmation at this
point, at least, some tacitconfirmation.
Um so he president uh you knowSchumer was now it's coming out
because he solicited help fromnot just uh Congress people, but
also which I don't necessarilyunderstand how that influenced
anything, but um he was lookingfor help in trying to keep the
(47:35):
shutdown going throughThanksgiving, purposely not
paying federal employees,service members, air traffic
controllers, federal lawenforcement, all of that,
purposely disrupting familyholiday air travel specifically.
Um purposely making the economya challenge so that people
(47:56):
wouldn't necessarily have enoughmoney to celebrate a proper
Thanksgiving as we traditionallydo, right?
And and widespread across thecountry.
So he was looking to makeThanksgiving miserable for
everyone for political purposesonly.
And there is now evidence thatthis is true.
We all, like you said,no-brainer.
We all kind of suspected he isthat brand of jerk um and that
(48:20):
brand of politician.
But now there is, there arepeople coming out after the vote
happened to reopen thegovernment that have said, I was
not on board with what Schumerwas doing.
He asked me for help, or heasked for you know my
abstinence, you know, abstainfrom the vote or to not
whatever, um, so that he coulddo X, Y, and Z and they could
blame it all on President Trumpand it would look bad for
(48:42):
President Trump.
So, really, folks, I mean, if ifyou didn't think Schumer was
done before this crappy outcomeof a 40 plus day shutdown, now
that this is out and in thewind, he's definitely done.
SPEAKER_03 (48:54):
Yeah, he's gotta be.
He's gotta be.
He has to be.
If he's not, I just I don't evenknow.
I don't even know what to say.
Throw my laptop in the air atthis point.
Like, I mean, if this guy isn'tdone after this, when your own
party is, you know, throwing youunder the bus saying, oh yeah,
this guy, you know, he was theone for sure.
And of course they're alsotrying to save their own skin
too.
SPEAKER_05 (49:14):
Yeah, you know.
So do you think do you think heresigns, or do you think that he
gets voted out of his minorityleadership role?
SPEAKER_03 (49:23):
Voted because he's too arrogant.
Okay.
Um, he's way too arrogant toresign.
He won't do it.
He will dig his, they will haveto yank him out of there by his
scrawny, liver spotted ankles,and just you know, drag him out
of there.
He doesn't want to lose thatgravy train if he wants to run.
Is it AOC?
Probably.
Yeah, I I would imagine so.
(49:45):
I would imagine.
Like, isn't that just hysteric?
SPEAKER_05 (49:49):
Like, so frightening it's not even funny.
SPEAKER_03 (49:52):
I it's at this point because it's all so surreal,
like it's so impossible tobelieve that this is real life,
that of course that's who it'llbe.
How could it not be her?
You know, and she's dumb enough,I think, because she's dumb
enough to be manipulated by thepeople who are really pulling
the strings there.
(50:12):
So they'll, you know, uh who'swho's better than her?
So even if they do yank ChuckyBoy out of there, you know, you
probably will still be a littlebit, at least to some degree,
some bit of a puppet master inthere because he he knows too
much.
You know, this is all all of youknow, all of these high-powered
people, whether it's uh politicsor uh celebrities for that
(50:33):
matter, um, they all have somuch dirt on each other.
Like this is how they this isthe game that they play.
It's all a game for them.
You know, anybody who thinksthat uh any of them care about
that this has anything to dowith us, we're just pawns in
their game.
Like, you know, I hate to bethat guy, that pessimistic, you
know, we're a guy, the uh whatis it from the Muppets, you
(50:56):
know, the guys up in the yeah,I'm like that guy right now, but
like I'm so, you know, you getreally jaded by this because you
can see what the game is.
And the game is just that it's agame for them, it's all about
them.
None of these people have walkedout of office, you know, um,
without being two, three, evenfour times as wealthy as when
(51:19):
they went in.
And that's right.
The numbers don't number.
So, yes.
So if he's gone, it'll bebecause they vote him out, but
he's not really gonna be gone.
So don't anybody do too big of ahappy dance.
SPEAKER_05 (51:33):
Yeah, I I think he will still, you know, as much as
everybody's written drunk Nancyoff, um, she still does hold a
lot of influence.
Um, even out of her position.
Um Schumer will be the same way.
Um, as long as he's in office,he'll still hold some some
influence, if not direct power.
Um I I don't know if it's her.
(51:54):
I think it is, um, but I thinkthere's enough infighting inside
the party, almost in the waythat like we were worried about,
you know, the independent vote.
SPEAKER_07 (52:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (52:05):
You know, right?
It's work, you know, we knowRoss Perot.
We've we talked about all theseevery time there's an
independent candidate, you know,the RFA, um, that it was going
to screw up the election.
I think there's enoughinfighting um inside of uh the
Democrat Party that it'll bevery much like the Chicago
mayoral election or theMinneapolis mayoral election,
(52:27):
where you know there's enoughpeople that are voting against
her and that somebody elsesomebody else will end up
sneaking in there as opposed toher.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (52:36):
Well, I'm sure, I'm sure uh Jeff Reese wants wants
in.
Um he's making a lot of powerplays.
SPEAKER_05 (52:42):
Yeah, there's a lot of um people you know that want
in or appear to.
I don't think it's her.
I hope it's probably will be.
So all right, let's talk aboutdumb women in politics.
SPEAKER_03 (52:55):
Do let's do that.
Oh my goodness.
This are so uh, you know, I Icalled uh I said about uh
Marjorie Taylor Green that shewas on the Apology tour.
Um uh Michelle Obama is on thewhen it's all about me tour.
When I've had it so hard,nobody's had it harder than me.
(53:16):
And now, surprise, surprise,she's not for the first time,
uh, railing against white peoplebecause we made her straighten
her hair.
I kid you not, I kid you not,folks.
If you did not see this already,um, let's just play this for
you.
(54:29):
Okay, so let me start by sayingI have never in all of my
fifty-four years given anythought to how another woman, a
a woman of another uh color orrace or anything, has styled
their hair.
I have never once stoppedsomebody and said, hey, you
(54:51):
straighten your hair right now.
And and I've actually pulled,very casually pulled lots of
people uh over the past day ortwo.
Um I haven't.
They're just in my commentsection all saying, I've
literally never even thoughtabout how black women style or
not style their hair.
I don't care.
(55:12):
So let's get that like really,really clear.
Uh also I could say that um as awhite slash Hispanic woman, um,
my hair is both curly andstraight.
It does whatever the heck itwants.
So I I don't know what to tellyou.
Sometimes I straighten it,sometimes I curl it, sometimes I
let it just be who it wants tobe.
(55:34):
Apparently, does she need doesshe need our permission to do
that?
Because I don't know.
I mean, last time I checked, shewas one of the most influential,
powerful women in the nation.
And she didn't use thatopportunity to, if she wanted to
wear her hair curly, I don'tknow, did she ever?
I have no idea.
I can't even remember how shestyled her hair.
(55:57):
That's how little I have evercared about that.
So what an offensive, entitled,arrogant, whiny, miserable woman
she is.
She is horrible.
And by the way, white women,white liberal women were pretty
close to literally bowing downat her feet.
(56:20):
So I'm pretty sure none of whatshe's saying holds any water
whatsoever.
So insulting.
If I cared enough to beinsulted, actually.
SPEAKER_05 (56:31):
So this is the this is the tip of the complaint
iceberg from former First LadyObama.
She has been complaining aboutthis, right?
Which is absurd.
Like you said, she's one of themost influential women,
arguably, in the world while shewas in the White House, um,
chose to bow down to socialpressures, which shows she has
(56:53):
no courage and no no realself-confidence of any kind,
intestinal fortitude.
I mean, if she if she bowed downon how she did her hair, then I
don't expect her to come throughon anything of any substance.
SPEAKER_07 (57:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (57:04):
Also, she has complained that that her and and
her husband had to pay forthings while they were in the
White House.
Um for those of you that don'tknow, um, the kitchen in the
White House, like their dailyfood that they are fed, they
have to pay for because it's notfree.
The president is paid more thananybody else in the federal
government, um, but that's for areason.
(57:25):
So they get a bill every monthfor the kitchen and uh they'll
pay for it.
She's complained about that.
Um, she has complained about howmuch time she had to spend in
public as the as the first lady.
She's complained about how muchtime she has has had to spend in
public since coming out of theWhite House, and yet she's
sitting on stage beinginterviewed of her own choice
(57:47):
about being the first lady,about and and complaining about
how much she hated being thefirst lady.
Right.
Okay.
So I I I don't I don't want tohear it.
She's lost it.
I she somebody said it the otherday.
I posted on social media, theysaid she is the Meghan Markle of
politics.
She sure is.
That you know, Meghan Markle,who has complained so much about
(58:08):
how invasive their lives were inEngland, and that's why they
came to the States and renouncedtheir titles and all of these
other things.
Um, but it Obama's doing she'sMichelle's doing the same thing.
Oh, I'm saying the first lady.
I like being on stage.
Right, I like being on stagebecause truthfully, if she
wasn't the first lady, no onewould be talking to her right
now.
Nobody would be talking aboutthe parents, no one would care.
(58:29):
She would be saying, she'd be alawyer in Chicago somewhere,
right?
Creating her life that way, too.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (58:35):
But this was designed to be miserable and
ungrateful.
SPEAKER_05 (58:38):
This is another person, very much like her
husband, yeah, who just needs toshut up and go away.
Definitely.
Like do what the otherpresidents and first ladies have
done once they have left office.
Right.
Fade into the woodwork.
That's what you're supposed todo.
Yeah.
But you choose not to, so Idon't want to hear any effing
complaints out of your mouth.
SPEAKER_03 (58:58):
Absolutely.
I love the irony too that she ison a book tour right now for a
book called Look or The Look orsomething like that.
And it is a picture book of her.
It's all pictures of her.
So she's literally going aroundsaying, Oh, I'm so tired of
everybody looking at me.
(59:19):
Please stop.
It's such a burden to be me.
SPEAKER_08 (59:21):
Look at me.
Look at me.
SPEAKER_03 (59:23):
Look at me in my book.
Look at this page, look at thispage, look at this page.
Stop looking.
Yeah.
Terrible.
I I it's just, oh my god, what ajoke.
A jerk.
Oh, Michelle Obama, you are ajerk.
You're just a jerk.
Go away.
And I can promise you, no onewill talk about your hair then
(59:45):
either.
So oh, and I live.
Let me just point out one morething in the beginning of that.
The next part of that, in thenext tour stop, she does, she's
gonna expand on that.
You watch, or somebody willexpand on that.
That um the reason why theydon't.
Did you catch that in thebeginning?
The reason why black women don'tswim or go to the gym is because
of their hair.
(01:00:06):
So now we're gonna get blamedfor obesity in black women.
That if we haven't or I think weactually already have been
blamed for that.
Pretty sure we have, but shewill she'll add to that.
She'll expand on that, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_05 (01:00:16):
Yeah, and there's there's other complaints too.
She's already said that uh, youknow, America's not ready for a
female president, um, you know,and it's because of of white
men.
She did say though that if thereis going to the first female
president will be a conservativewoman.
Uh she has said that.
Uh, she's also said, don't lookat me uh to to run because
(01:00:36):
America is not mature enough toelect a female president.
Um, you know, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
So all she's doing iscomplaining in public, and we're
all tired of listening to her,and she just needs to go away.
SPEAKER_03 (01:00:47):
Go away.
Go away.
Okay, so we're gonna go away inabout two seconds.
We want to once again wish youguys all a very happy
Thanksgiving.
And we can't wait.
We already can't wait to getback to you, and we're gonna
tell the news cycle to juststop.
Just stop until we get back toit, right?
Just pause everything until Clayand Elsa can get back to it.
Uh Clay, you close them out.
SPEAKER_05 (01:01:09):
All right, folks.
Thanks.
Uh thanks uh as always for forjoining us and uh and popping in
and being part of this.
We watch every week, we look.
I love seeing how many peopletune in.
Like Facebook numbers are crazy,literally thousands of people
watching, uh, which is alwaysawesome.
And we love you guys.
But uh, enjoy your Thanksgivinguh from Elsa and I, and uh as
always from me, keep moving,keep shooting.
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