Inside the “Schumer Shutdown,” Soldier Standards, and a High-Stakes NYC Mayoral Crossroads

We break down the shutdown’s blame game, the Pentagon’s hard reset on standards, and why NYC’s mayoral race could reshape the city’s future. We also examine Big Tech’s settlement over censorship, the silence around Christian persecution, and Kamala’s word-salad tour.

• clean CR blocked, partisan optics, Friday resolution likely
• spending steady vs new demands, public fatigue with brinkmanship
• fitness, grooming, merit emphasis, trimming DEI and busywork
• caution on ROE, trainee treatment, and public reprimands
• conditions-based federal help for cities, avoid mission creep
• NYC race framed as vote-against choice, public safety stakes
• Big Tech settlement signals speech suppression costs
• global Christian persecution underreported by mainstream
• Kamala’s messaging mirrors identity vs electability tension
• community standard set for civil, substantive debate

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:01):
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Brought to you by the Alta CurveClub and Refuge Medical.
And now it's time for the show.

SPEAKER_08 (00:21):
Well, hey there.
I was like, did you hear thatsound?
I was just adjusting mymicrophone and I it squeaked.
Did you hear that?

SPEAKER_04 (00:26):
I did hear that.
Everybody heard the squeak.
A little bit of a beep, yes.

SPEAKER_08 (00:30):
What's that stuff called?
WD40?

SPEAKER_04 (00:31):
Yes.
Yes.

SPEAKER_08 (00:33):
Fixes everything.
Fixes everything.
Oh my goodness.
I'm already starting us off therails.
Hi, Clay.
How are you today?

SPEAKER_04 (00:40):
I'm doing well.
It is Wednesday, folks, uh 4 30Eastern time.
We are in the middle of agovernment shutdown, among many,
many other things that we gotgoing.
We're doing okay.
How are you?

SPEAKER_08 (00:51):
I'm good.
I'm good.
Yeah, yeah, I'm good.
I'm kind of um, I don't know.
I feel like it's another one ofthose uh weeks where I'm a
little discombobulated.
And I don't really have a goodreason why.
I just simply am.
I don't know.
I put too many things on myplate.
I wanted to do two.
Have you ever done this, Clay?
You have like five millionthings you want to do, but you
want them all done like fiveminutes ago.
Like that's a day in my lifeevery day.

(01:11):
I always do that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12):
Yeah, I um with uh with the release of the second
book, I've been likereinvigorating like podcast
appearances and other things.
And it's like, you know, I'vebeen stacking stuff on top of
each other with very few breaks,then all of a sudden I look down
and my day is completelyconsumed.
So yes, I completely understandwhat you're talking about.

SPEAKER_08 (01:28):
Thank you.
Yeah, it's just wild.
It's wild.
And it's not a bad thing.
I'm not, it's not a complaint,just an acknowledgement, right?
Like busy is good, productive isgood, but it's the same thing.
It gets to the end of the day,and you're like, especially when
you do if you're doing deskwork.
Like that to me is always thecrazy thing.

SPEAKER_04 (01:42):
Like you feel like if you sit, if you're so busy
you forget to eat, and then allof a sudden it's like five
o'clock and you're like, I'mstarving.
Yes.

SPEAKER_08 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah.
I I am I am actually at thatpoint right now.
So if you hear my stomachgrumble, guys, we're all gonna
pretend you didn't hear it.
Okay.
Just pretend with me that youhear it.
Yeah, this was one of those.
It's it's so funny that you saidthat.
As soon as you said, I'm like,I'm hungry.
Oh well.
What are you gonna do?
Okay, listen, guys, we've got uhwe've got the usual, we've got

(02:10):
quite a few topics for you.
Um starting right.
Well, I mean, we should startright off the bat with the uh
with the shutdown.
So how about that?
Uh at 1201 a.m., the federalgovernment went into shutdown
thanks to a Senate blockade ofthe GOP's clean funding bill.
They're calling this the SchumerShutdown, right?
It's the Schumer Shutdown.

(02:30):
You've got a funny graphic too.

SPEAKER_04 (02:34):
Yes.
So for those that don't know ordon't aren't tracking, um, you
know, the federal governmentoperates their fiscal years, the
1st of October to the 30th ofSeptember.
It's not, you know, most people,most businesses operate on a 1
January to 31 December, but thefederal government is is not.
So the government shut down uhas of midnight last night,

(02:54):
because today is October 1st,obviously.
And um the reason is what theRepublicans, what the GOP asked
for is uh just a you know, theywanted to stay literally no
change in spending, no increasesor decreas, steady state until
middle of November, so theycould actually discuss real
budgetary issues, which I thinkall of America would under would

(03:16):
agree should have been resolvedby now.
But they asked for another, Ithink it's seven weeks with no
change, is what they asked for.

SPEAKER_07 (03:24):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (03:24):
Right.
And the Democrats absolutelyminus three.
There are three that jumped overand agreed that, you know, let's
take the seven weeks and theyvoted with the GOP, um, but it
wasn't enough votes.
Uh, and so, you know, it's we'rein a shutdown because the
Democrats are holding ithostage.

SPEAKER_08 (03:42):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's I mean, that's it in a
nutshell, right?
That's what they're doing.
And of course, they're they'reblaming the GOP, and it's it's
them.
Um, and it's it's crazy.
And what else is new?
The American people are the onesthat are are made to suffer for
their nonsense, really.
And, you know, I've seen a lotof posts, a lot of different

(04:02):
things, you know, uh, one ofthem being uh I just saw it like
five minutes before somebodysaid, you know, uh, this is
probably one of those caseswhere you shut down and nobody's
even gonna notice because youweren't even doing your job in
the first place.
So, you know, and I and I don'tknow how I don't know how true,
you know, how accurate that is,but it does give you a moment to
pause.
Um, so what the heck's gonnahappen next?

SPEAKER_04 (04:22):
What do you what do you think is uh your your point
about the Schumer shutdown isinteresting because what
everybody is saying is thatSchumer has orchestrated this
because he wants to appear to bea hardliner for once because he
is scared to death that he isgoing to be replaced by AOC and
that would be the turning point.
Right.
He was quote unquote soft um andand worked with the Republicans

(04:46):
and and you know worked with thewhip and you know got the votes
that were needed to extend, thenhe would be seen as weak.
And he doesn't want because heis afraid he's gonna be replaced
by AOC, which is why they'recalling us the Schumer Shutdown.
Um so that's part of it.
Um, there are Republicans rightnow that are introducing
measures where Congress doesn'tget paid at all until this

(05:06):
passes, which I think we can allagree on.
Listen, if the lowest enlistedperson in any of the armed
services is not getting paidright now, then Congress should
not be getting paid right now.

SPEAKER_08 (05:17):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 (05:18):
Um there are the people that are saying, well,
the Republicans own the WhiteHouse, they own the House, they
own the Senate.
This shutdown is on them.
Well, the reality is it's notbecause they have to have 60
votes to move through.
They don't have while they dohave control of that of the you
know Congress in both houses,um, they don't have enough of an
advantage to just override,which is where they're trying to

(05:40):
get right now.
So I think this goes the way ofmany of these shutdowns.
I think the last one, it's beena while.
Um maybe 10 years, pretty close,uh, maybe a little longer.
But um, I think this goes theway that that most of them go.
I think then within the nextprobably what's today?
Today's Wednesday.
I would bet by Friday, um, aresolution, you know, this

(06:01):
green, what did you call it?
It's the um uh the green or thethe continuing, it's a
continuing resolution, isbasically what that'll get
passed.
I think by Friday, um, you know,there'll be enough Democrats
that will have succumbed to thepressure, they will have
flipped, and there'll be enoughfor this to to pass, and it'll
get them through the seven weeksinto November, and then they'll
discuss all this stuff and we'llprobably go through another

(06:23):
continuing resolution inNovember.

SPEAKER_08 (06:24):
Yeah, yep.
Oh my goodness.
And and you know, and again, uhit's it's important to note
that, you know, this is anothercase of Democrats not listening
to the American people.
I think the number was somethingthat like 60, and I could be
even low balling, but 65% ofAmericans uh did not want a
government shutdown.
Like, you know, I mean it's it'skind of a given, you know, that

(06:44):
that would be the case.
So I'm sure the number is evenhigher than that.
Um, but yeah, you know, again,another case of them not
listening to the people thatthey serve.
And that is what we are so sickand tired of.
We're just done with it.
And this is, you know, justanother great example of why.
We said no, don't do it.
They said we're gonna do itanyway because we want to stomp
our feet and and uh, you know,just stick it to Trump and stick

(07:07):
it to the Republicans and and umyeah, no, and here's where we
are.

SPEAKER_04 (07:11):
Yeah, and and what people don't realize is that the
the seven week stay was wasnothing, there was literally no
change.
So all of the funding for allthe things that the Democrats
have right now that they wantthat are already being paid for
would not have changed for thenext seven weeks.
It would have been allowed foranother seven weeks of deals and

(07:32):
negotiations.
What they've turned around andasked for is$1.5 trillion in
healthcare specifically forillegal aliens, right?
Right.
So and you know, Americans whoright now don't have health care
are being told or can't affordhealthcare are being told that
their taxes are going to be usedto provide health care for
people who aren't Americans.

(07:52):
Right.
You know, sub you know, subsidy.
So whether you're on welfare,whether you're on whatever, like
any government program that isfunding you is right now at
risk.
So of course 65% of the peopledon't want this to happen.
I'm surprised it's that low, tobe honest with you.

SPEAKER_08 (08:13):
Yeah, that's I you know I feel the same way.
That was the number that I saw.
And even when I read it, I'mlike, uh, that doesn't feel
right.
I feel like that number's a lothigher than that.

SPEAKER_04 (08:21):
So well, there's 35% of the people, truthfully, that
probably don't care.
Like it has no effect on theirlife.
So they really don't it doesn'tbother them.
But regardless, our governmentshould never be shut down like
this.
I know Congress, even just a fewminutes ago, there was an
attempt by the GOP to, you know,do another vote to get the 60 to
move it along.
It fell short again.
So, but I I think by Friday,again, I think this will be
resolved.

(08:41):
It may even be by the time thisshow airs tomorrow night.
But I think definitely byFriday, I think this will be
resolved.
I hope.
But I that's my anticipation.

SPEAKER_08 (08:49):
And I I, you know, I just simply hope that it serves
as yet another nail in thecoffin for the Democrats for
this party uh and the way thatthey're doing this.
This is uh this is insane.
You know, again, not to be abroken record, you're hurting
the American people, or you'reyou're you're indifferent to the
potential, potential of hurtingAmerican people by doing this to
give aid to illegal aliens.

(09:11):
And and this is literally theonly thing that they seem to
care about ever.
So, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (09:17):
Well, and I'll be honest with you, I think they're
only doing this because this isnot a major election year.
There are only a very fewelections, and we're gonna talk
about one of them, and it's alocal election, the New York
City mayoral election, but thereare only a few elections this
year, and they're gubernatorial.
Um, there's not a lot ofcongressional seats at risk.
Actually, I don't know ifthere's any at all, but this is
not a major election year.
There's no way that they wouldbe doing this to let it to be

(09:41):
the bad guy, to be the onebearing the brunt of this
through an actual election.
So um it would have beenresolved today, probably.
It certainly would have beenresolved before election day,
but I I think um, you know, giveit till Friday and this will
this will fix itself.
Um but in the meantime, we'vegot the Department of War
spending millions of dollars onto bring every every general and

(10:04):
every senior enlisted person toQuantico for the day.

SPEAKER_08 (10:09):
Yes, I I'm gonna take a wild guess.
I think you have some bigfeelings on this as well.
I mean, actually, I was, youknow, when you when you when you
threw this into our our mix forour topics, I I literally I did
one of these and I went, ooh,because I knew I'm like, Clay's
gonna be fired up.
Like and and I was genuinelyinterested uh on your take on
all of this.

(10:29):
And I knew you would watch thewhole thing and and making it so
that I didn't have to.
So bad, so bad.
But yes.
Um, so like Clay said, uh, thedefense secretary, Pete Heggs
says, Clay's favorite guy in thewhole wide world, you don't hate
him, you just don't love him.
I know that you don't, and Iwant to clarify that every
people he doesn't hate him, hedoesn't just you can you can you

(10:50):
can be critical of people.
It's okay, guys.
You don't have to go bonkers,right?
I mean, you really should be.
It's you know, you we don't haveto like just follow the leaders
like little minions.

SPEAKER_04 (11:04):
And I will tell you that that, and I'll talk about
exactly what the secretary said,but that right there, what you
said is about you know, peoplenot questioning um has been
rampant in the last 24 hours.
Um, I've taken a bit of abeating across social media.
Again, Secretary Heggseth, I Ihave said from the beginning, I
am not a fan of his.
I do want him and the departmentto be successful.

(11:25):
That is my my number one hope ofall hopes.
Um, but I don't think he's theguy to get us there.
What has happened, especially inthe last 24 hours, is if you
disagree with anything that hesaid at all, you're being
lambasted as non-supportive, asyou know, you don't know what
you're talking about.
I mean, it is an absoluteattack.
You it's it's one of those thatthe GOP, the Republican

(11:47):
conservative side, has turnedinto the the liberal side when
it comes to this.
It is 100% support, or you're atraitor, and there's no
in-between.
So I've taken a bit of abeating.
But let's go back to thesecretary.
So he he got every, I think itwas about a 97% attendance rate.
There were a few exceptionsmade, but every general
officerslash flag officer, GOFO,as we call them, because

(12:10):
admirals are not generals,they're flag officers.
But GOFO, if you've seen that,GOFO, um, all of them and their
senior enlisted advisorsaccompanied, and they all went
to Quantico and they put themall in a room together.
And first the chairman of JointChiefs stood up and he
alleviated some worries thatthere was going to be a physical
fitness test following thebriefing, which there was not.
It was actually very funny.

(12:31):
Um and then and then thesecretary got out there.
And there are a number of thingsthat he talked about, and there
are a lot of things that hetalked about that I support, I'm
a fan of.
I have even wrote in support ofor talked in support of on the
show.
Um, and and some of the thingshe hit on, and I took some
notes.
So physical fitness is a bigdeal.
We all live through the fatgeneral Millie as the
representatives as not only thechairman of the joint chiefs,

(12:52):
but the chief of staff of thearmy before that, who was obese.
I mean, he was grosslyoverweight.
Um, and Secretary Heggseth saidflat out, no more fat generals.
Okay, well, it's not, and he didyou know extend that to the rest
of the services.
Um, but he said it's a bad look.
And I don't disagree with that.
Now, people took that beyond andsaid, well, you know, could be
because he said everyone isgonna have to pass, every

(13:13):
service has a height and weightstandard.
If you're so tall, you can onlyweigh so much, male or female.
You also have to take a physicalfitness test twice a year.
That has never not been thestandard, it just hasn't been
enforced, especially in thesenior ranks.
It's one of those things that itjust hasn't happened.
And it's not new news.
It's always been on the books,it just hasn't been enforced,
but he says it's being enforced,which I'm all for.

(13:34):
He also said grooming standards,which we have talked about,
right?
Shave every day.
And he said it.
We're getting rid of the beards,we're getting rid of the crazy
hairstyles, we're getting rid ofall that stuff.
I'm a huge supporter of that.
I've said it many times.
Um, he's getting rid of all theDEI crap, he's getting rid of
all of the, you know, uhHispanic Heritage Month, Pacific
Islander Heritage Month, Black,you know, African-American

(13:55):
Heritage, all those things aregoing away.
Everything is gonna be on merit.
That is what he's saying.
People will be selected,promoted, um, judged on merit,
not on color of their skin,religion, blah, blah, blah.
He's getting rid of all theLGBTQ crap.
Um, he said it specifically, nodudes in dresses.
So that he said those wordsspecifically.
So that is all coming off thetable.

(14:16):
Yeah.
Um, he is reinstilling a warriorethos, focusing on training,
spending time on the range,weapon proficiency, all of these
things.
I I'm a fan of all of that.
Right.
It doesn't matter.
I feel like all of these thingsare so matter of course.
They they should be, but theyhave fallen off.
Now, some of that is well, thewarrior ethos to training, that

(14:36):
that's there's money that has tobe associated with that, right?
It costs money to train.
Bullets cost money, you know,those kinds of things.
So that's an allocation ofresources that really is an
adjustment, but also they'vetaken things off the training
calendar, required training,like we used to call it
sensitivity training,consideration of it's had a
bunch of names over the years,consideration of others training
and all these other things,right?

(14:57):
He's taking a bunch of that crapoff the table.
We're not doing it anymore,which I'm I'm all for.
There was actually a point intime where folks in the army
looked at all of the requiredtraining and all of the manuals,
and literally you couldn't do itin a year.
It was impossible.
There was actually more requiredtraining than there was hours in
a year.
Oh man.
Um Yeah, so so they're clearinga bunch of that up, which is
great.
But really, what he was focusingon was accountability, right?

(15:20):
Um, again, I'm all for thatstuff.
Here are some of the problems inwhat he said.
He he mentioned things likewe're not gonna follow these
stupid rules of engagementanymore.
Okay.
Just to explain to the generalpublic, those rules of
engagement are derived fromlegal documents like the Geneva
Convention, the law of landwarfare, right?
And and I understand that hisview comes from his experience,

(15:42):
which I've said in the in thepast is not great.
Um he was a lieutenant and acaptain, and his experience
truthfully in combat is very,very low.
Um and and he has a, I think, amisapplied view of how things
are supposed to be.
Um when you don't adhere toAmericans following what is
legally, morally, and ethicallycorrect, um, and you let people

(16:03):
act like animals, they becomeanimals.
Um, there's a lot of reasons tohave those rules of engagement
and those limitations on combat.
What we can't have is peoplecommitting war crimes.
Um when you say things likewe're not gonna follow these
stupid rules of engagement, youyou start to, you know, there's
you're introducing gray areasinto places where there
shouldn't be gray areas.

(16:23):
He also talked about basictraining should be a scary,
difficult, challengingexperience, which I agree with.
Basic training for or boot campfor every service should be that
way.
But he he did mention that nowdrill sergeants would be able to
swear, believe it or not, theyweren't supposed to.
That was on the books as aregulation.
Okay.
But he also said they would beable to lay hands on trainees,

(16:44):
which is I I'm not in favor of.
And in fact, anybody who'sworked in that environment would
tell you the same thing.
As much as people think fullmetal jacket is a reality, it is
not and hasn't been for decades.
In an all-volunteer army, and ifyou know, you've got kids, I've
got kids.
Do you want your kid going tobasic training and being
potentially physically abused?

SPEAKER_05 (17:01):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (17:01):
Because that's what this has the potential to turn
into if it's not governed.
Um so I'm not a fan of that.
Um I, you know, he he referencedthe army of 1990, right?
This is the old standard, whichwas the desert storm army.

SPEAKER_05 (17:14):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (17:15):
Let me give you a little perspective, folks.
Pete Heggsmith was 10 in 1990.
10 years old.
He doesn't know what the desertstorm army looked like.
Right.

SPEAKER_08 (17:23):
That was my husband's war.
Yeah.
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (17:24):
That was when he was I was still in high school in
1990, right?
I graduated in 91.
He was 10 years old.
He did not join the militaryuntil after 9-11, which is a
very, very different army.
So he has this romanticizedvision of what the army looks
like or the military of 1990 waslike.
I would tell you that LieutenantHeggsith, if you took him as a
lieutenant and you placed him inthe army of 1990 with the

(17:46):
training that he had and didn'thave, he would have been
ridiculed, he would have beenhazed, he would have been told
he was a worthless piece of shitfor a couple of reasons, because
he didn't meet a lot of thegates that were expected back
then.
He is an infantry lieutenant.
He did not go to airborne schooland learn how to jump out of
planes, he did not go to rangerschool, which was the mark of
success for a young infantryofficer.
And he was a national guardsman.

(18:07):
The opportunities that he wasgiven during the war on terror,
he would never have been givenin the army of 1990.
He would have been shoved in acorner and told to shut up until
he was talked to.
So he's got a false sense ofwhat that army looked like and
how good it was and was not.
Um, now, as a fighting force wasfantastic.
I'm not gonna take anythingaway.
We rolled through a fifthlargest army in the world in a

(18:29):
hundred hours, right?
There was no joking around.
Um, however, um, you know, hekept hitting on the PT thing,
um, physical fitness, right?
Physical fitness is important,which it is, right?
No doubt about it.
And he is a PT guy.
We've all seen it.
He goes out, he does physicalfitness training with the
troops, and he's good at it.
So therefore, it's important tohim.
However, I would tell you, inthat army of 1990, and it and

(18:51):
even into the late middle andlate 90s, we had a lot of people
who could run really fast and doa lot of PT, who really, really
sucked at their job, but theywere really good at PT and they
were promoted and advancedbecause on the surface, they're
physically fit and they could doall of those things.
We had a very skewed army whenit came to those things, and he
is reintroducing some of that,knowingly or unknowingly, um,
where he is saying, you know,physical fitness is the priority

(19:14):
as it should be.
Um, however, that weighs morethan you know, your competency
at your job.
And I would tell you thatSecretary of Defense, now
Secretary of War, but Secretaryof Defense Pete Heggs, when he
took over on day one in thePentagon, if they gave him a
competency test about his job,not a physical fitness test, but
a competency test about how thePentagon worked, how the

(19:35):
services worked, how any of thatworked, he would have failed
miserably.
He would have been fired on thevery first day.
So I I think his hisprioritization of quality of
work uh is a little askew,especially when it comes to the
senior ranks.
Um he also talked about therewill be no more frivolous
complaints across the force.
And what he was talking aboutwas um to the inspector general

(19:57):
and to others.
He he is not the person todetermine what a frivolous
complaint is.
And what he did was heintroduced a lot of doubt into a
lot of people's heads about whatthey can and can't or should or
shouldn't complain about.
Hazing, sexual harassment, um,all kinds of things get filed
into the inspector general,among others, and those should
not be discouraged.
Should they be vetted?

(20:17):
Absolutely.
Should the frivolous ones bedetermined and thrown away?
Yes.
But what you can't say up frontis we're not gonna have any more
frivolous ones.
Nobody knows what that is,exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (20:28):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (20:28):
And then the last two things one, he basically
told everybody in the room,listen, if you don't agree with
the words that I'm saying, youshould go ahead and resign right
now.
He told the entire population ofgeneral officers and flag
officers and their seniorenlisted advisors, if you don't
agree with me, get out.
That's what you should do.
The military is there, theuniform military is there for
him and for the president toprovide advice because they have

(20:51):
no expertise.
Him specifically, PresidentTrump at least has four years
under his belt as the president,but he has no expertise.
And and to say either you agreewith me or you quit is very,
very immature in who he is.
Um I'm not a fan of that.
And then the last thing is theidea that this was live streamed
to the entirety of the worldwith no opportunity for

(21:13):
discussion, no opportunity forall of those commanders in that
room to take in what he said, toask questions, to ask for
clarity, to even provide abuffer between things that he
may have said or misspoke beforethey get to the force.
He took all of that out.
And in front of the entirety ofthe military force who was
watching that live stream, hebasically told all the

(21:35):
leadership in that room, youhave either been lazy or
complicit to allow the militaryto get to the state that it's
in.
So he basically cut every singlecommander and senior enlisted
legs out from underneath thempublicly.

SPEAKER_01 (21:48):
But if the words I'm speaking today are making your
heart sink, then you should dothe honorable thing and resign.

SPEAKER_08 (21:58):
Do you think so?
Here's just me playing devil'sadvocate.
Do you think that was shootingright from the hip?
Do you think that was him?
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (22:05):
So was that that was a written because he was walking
around the stage.
So there was no teleprompter,unless there was something in
the back that we couldn't see.
But I think that was amemorized, rehearsed, very
deliberate speech by himaddressed to those people in the
room.
But also it was uh it was aKodak moment, it was a photo

(22:25):
opportunity, it was all of thosethings that uh Secretary Heget
is known for.
Um, we all know he's got hismakeup studio, you know, right
there next to his office.
Um, but um, yes, I none of thiswas an accident.
This was all on purpose and I Ithink truthfully ill-advised.

SPEAKER_08 (22:42):
There was definitely a lot of parts that I I I love
about it.
The ones that same same exactones that he loved, really.
I I can't wait to see thecomments section, Clay.

SPEAKER_04 (22:49):
Yeah, I listen, folks, I I do there's there are
a lot of things that I agreewith, really.
I I do, and I and I want him tobe successful, but again, he
keeps like he mentioned when youknow when I was the platoon
leader, what you know, themotto, you know, and he was
talking about his his lack ofexperience as if it was a
bedrock for great decisionmaking.
And I could go into a longdiscussion about if you look at

(23:12):
what he did in his career andyou actually know what you're
looking at and reading betweenthe lines, that he he was not
treated well, and truthfully,his level of experience is
terrible.
It's less than even if heportrays it to be, because on
the surface, people don't knowthe difference.
But those of us that can look atit with a Rosetta Stone in hand
and we know what we're lookingat, we we know that you know he

(23:33):
did he deployed, he did Iraq andAfghanistan, but the jobs he was
given were less than great,truthfully.

SPEAKER_08 (23:38):
Yeah, uh, you know, and and I think the the issue
that comes in with these, youknow, irate commenters and
everything, you know, we getvery, and I'm guilty of it too,
on many occasions of getting,you know, that that murka, you
know, you guys fire fires up,you know, put me in, coach, you
know, you get that mentality andand it is from a place of great

(23:59):
love of country and patriotismand all of those things.
And and I think people get alittle bit lost in their
patriot, their their fire to bepatriotic and to be good, you
know, solid Americans andsupport someone who's who's
giving that same energy thatwe've been craving so badly from

(24:19):
uh you know, from ourleadership, uh, particularly
somebody who's who's uhSecretary of Defense or
Secretary of War.
Um, I mean, that is absolutelythe guy you want to hear ready
to go in, guns blazing, firedup, and and uh in you know,
hardcore defense of America,American values and and
protection of this country.
All of those things are arereally the given here of what

(24:41):
the sentiment is.
But um, and you said it before,kind of get that liberal vibe
coming in where you're comingover and attacking someone who
simply has a differentperspective.
And but we're all on the sameteam here.
And and that is one of thethings that really deeply
disappoints me uh as aconservative, as a Republican,

(25:02):
uh, as a human being, simplythat, you know, listen, we are
actually all on the same sidehere.
We all have the same core beliefsystem, which is America first,
we love this country deeply.
And I mean, that's that, youknow, and then we can we could
certainly go into the the wholeGod country family, all of those

(25:23):
things.
Those are huge factors in theconservative movement.
So we have a very connectedcore.
So when you come at someone whois on the same damn side as you
and basically try and rip themto shreds, and like uh like I
got, I think we talked aboutthis a couple of weeks ago.
Somebody uh sent me a messageand and uh saying that they hope

(25:43):
that I get a bullet between theeyes or something like that.
So that was really sweet.
And it was because theymisunderstood a video that I
made.
I was actually um, it was it wassatirist mocking the leftist
media um by imitating them, andthey took it as for real, as I
was as if I was really sayingthat.
And that was the message that Igot.
Um, there were some people thatsuggested that that was a um

(26:05):
really a liberal in disguise,pretending to be, yeah, like
listen, I'm not gonna giveanybody that much credit to have
given it that much thought.
Not in that circumstance.
I really believe uh that thatwas somebody on on the right who
was way, way over the top.
And if you as a conservative, asa Republican are sending

(26:25):
messages to your fellowconservatives, actually to
anyone, if you are sending,never mind even then.
Let me backtrack that a littlebit.
If you as a conservative,however you want to label
yourself, conservative,Republican, blah, blah, blah,
Christian, if you're on thisside of things and you are
making comments and sendingmessages to anyone with
aggressive, violent hate talk,uh, you don't you don't belong

(26:48):
over here.
You don't belong in this sidebecause that is not who we are.
That's not what we're about.
So that's my feeling on that.
You want to come in the commentsand and disagree with me or with
Clay on this topic or any topic,go for it.
Please do.
I'd love to hear yourperspective.
Um, it helps me grow as a humanbeing.
It gives me a different uhviewpoint.

(27:08):
Absolutely love that.
If you come in here like a POSand, you know, ripping somebody
to shreds, whether it's me,Clay, or another commenter in
there, you're just gone.
You're just out.
I don't have time for you.
I don't have patience for you.
You're not welcome here.
And frankly, I don't think youshould be welcome in the
Conservative Party because youare not representative of who we
are and what we're about.
We're we're better than that,damn it.

(27:30):
And so act like it.
So if you're coming in, betterhave a good argument and you
better have something worthsaying and you better say it in
a way that is respectful andintelligent.
And otherwise, I'll ban you.
I don't even care.
You know, I used to be like thethe one that was like, oh, never
ban anyone.
You can stay, even if you saywrong things.
No, I don't care.
I don't care about yourfeelings, don't care if your
heart's in the right place.

(27:51):
Say it wrong, just go.
So that's that's I mean, that'sliterally all I have to.
That's my soapbox for themoment.
Yeah, I mean, as far as uhPete's concerned, yeah, I I see
the things that you are saying,and I don't have the the deep
understanding that you you have,of course.
Um I I will say I kind of haveto reiterate what I said in a
little bit more gentle tonethat, you know, I just I just

(28:12):
wish we could all, and I putmyself in this too.
I wish we could all take thatpause and really think about
what we're about to say beforewe say it.
And I'm sure there are things inin that speech that he could
have said better and differentlythat would not be so um, I don't
know, inflammatory where itdidn't need to be.
There's points where you need tobe, right?

(28:33):
The the DEI, absolutely, youknow, what is what is it?
No dudes and dresses, no dudesand dresses, right?

SPEAKER_04 (28:39):
Yeah, all of it.
There's again, tons of stuff Iagreed with.
I really, but there were certainthings where I think he he's you
know, he's off base.
But yeah, it is what it is.
I you know, um, I we don't needto belabor the point anymore.
Um that was you know, that waspretty big topic, yeah, mostly
because it's never happenedbefore.
Um that they've never put thatmany senior leaders in a room

(29:00):
together ever.
Um, and so you know that was athat was a big undertaking.
Oh, by the way, not lost on anyof them or any service member
that they did it the day beforethe government shutdown.
Yeah, so there was a loyaltycheck that basically said, hey,
he, you know, with saying itwithout saying it, like tomorrow
you're working without apaycheck, and I don't expect any
complaints from anybody,otherwise the door's over there.

(29:22):
So there is some of that.
Uh regardless.
I I think that's we've we'vecovered that.
Let's let's move on to the nextone.

SPEAKER_08 (29:28):
All right.
Well, we can kind of stay sortof kind of in the same vein here
a little bit-ish.

SPEAKER_04 (29:32):
I mean, uh Yeah, this is this is part of it.
So there's actually folksunderstand that as as many
rumors as are out there, thereare no troops in Portland,
Chicago, or Louisiana.
They have been requested eitherby the president or by the
governor.
In Portland, specificallyOregon, the governor there has
already filed a lawsuit to avoidthat.

(29:54):
What was proposed or requestedby the president was 200 members
of the Oregon National Guard.
Chicago.
Same thing, nobody there yet.
A hundred members of theIllinois National Guard.
The Louisiana governor hasrequested that his own National
Guard be federalized to help himwith the overwhelm law
enforcement within his state.
So, you know, there's differentperspectives on this.

(30:16):
We've seen the success of what'shappening in Washington, D.C.

SPEAKER_07 (30:19):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (30:20):
Um, and I will tell you that there has been a
massive influx in Chicago offederal law enforcement.
They actually ran a massiveraid, uh, helicopter, like fast
roping out of Blackhawks ontothe rooftop of an apartment
building controlled by TrendaAgua.
Like this was uh ICE.
It was, they've got DEA, theygot ATF involved now, FBI.

(30:41):
Um, but there are hundreds offederal law enforcement agents
running around Chicago rightnow.
But there's no federal troops.
There's no troops at all.
So what do you what do youthink?
We've covered DC, we've talkedin concept about Chicago.
What do you where do you seelike the the governor of Oregon
said he told his staff this iscoming and I want a lawsuit in

(31:02):
less than 12 hours to besubmitted uh once the request is
put in.
Where do you think this is gonnago?

SPEAKER_08 (31:08):
Yeah, I you know, I mean, Trump is Trump is he's won
a lot of these cases.
He's certainly lost some ofthem, but um, you know, overall
he's he's winning them.
And and and I think the the keyfactor here is, you know, so the
the left and and the media, ofcourse, want you to believe that
this is the federalization ofyou know troops against American
people and we can't stand forthis, and you know, uh big gov

(31:29):
is coming in, and they're notcoming after Americans, they're
coming after violent, illegalaliens who are taking over um,
you know, buildings and doingall and the crime and all of the
things that are going on.
So American citizens are notbeing targeted.
They are targeting the peoplewho are in this country
illegally and who are violent,dangerous criminals who are

(31:52):
killing American citizens ontrains and and parks and in
parking lots, and you know, soit's absurd to me that they
would propaganda.
I mean, it's why is it of coursethat this is what they're doing,
they're propagandizing the thewhole thing to an extreme uh to
a version of what it is not.
And then you have, of course,you have these people that are

(32:15):
believing that this is what'shappening, and it's simply not.
And listen, if you governors ofthese states, uh if you cannot
control and get rid of therampant crime that is going on
in your states, in your cities,you need the government's help.
You did this.

(32:36):
This is not Trump's fault thatyou can't manage your city.
I, you know, I mean, people havea right, American citizens have
a right to live freely andsafely in their neighborhoods
and in their, you know, townsand in their homes.
So, yeah, and enough of theNazis.
I am I am all for it with theobvious caveat that um it should

(32:58):
always be constantly monitoredthat there isn't overreach or um
um, you know, overzealousness.
You know, do everything withinthe constraints of what you're
legally allowed to do, period.
End of story.
I that's the way I see it.
How about you?

SPEAKER_04 (33:12):
Yeah, I think, you know, it it's always the same
problem of like when does itend?
Right.
So how long, how long do thesefolks stay?
That is always a concern.
I think there should always beeither uh it should never be
time-based because you neverknow if you're gonna meet that
time.
Um I think it should becondition-based where you say
we've reduced crime by X amountor we've brought on X amount of

(33:32):
police officers back onto theforce, et cetera.
Um, but I would tell you thatthe biggest problem is that it's
not that they can't, thesemayors or governors can't uh
reduce crime.
They don't want to.
Right.
Like, you know, that's it, righton the nose.
That's it.
They really don't want to.
And and we're gonna talk aboutNew York City here in a minute.
But you know, Johnson inChicago, I don't even know the

(33:53):
mayor of Portland's name, butlike that they they want to
release people on their ownrecognizance.
They don't want bail, they theywant the jails emptied.
They don't, you know, they wantall of these people out on the
street, they want socialworkers, they to handle these
things, they want, they want todefund the police.
They want these situations.

(34:13):
And and it's a it's a differenceof uh mindset and methodology
where, like you said, Americanshave a right to be safe.
And they believe that the theAmericans that they're trying to
take care of are the ones whoare committing all the crimes.
They're not taking intoconsideration everybody else
who's a victim of a crime,whereas President Trump and like
the governor of Louisiana islike, I need some help.

(34:35):
Like I want to provide safetyand security for the residents
of the state of Louisiana, andmy law enforcement's
overwhelmed.
We can't do it.
I need some assistance, right?
And that's what President Trumpis trying to impose into
Illinois slash Chicago, Oregonslash Portland to provide that
safety and security for thecitizens, citizens.
But you've got governors andmayors who are fighting against

(34:56):
it because it's a a differentideological, you know, method to
do this.
And I don't think we'll everuntil they're voted out, you'll
never overcome that.

SPEAKER_08 (35:06):
No, no, you won't, you won't.
I mean, we've got decades uh ofthis uh you know as proof, and
and they still keep getting moreChicago hasn't had a Republican
mayor in over a hundred years.
So I I don't I don't get it,Clay.
I just don't, I don't understandfor the life of me.
And it's so frustrating.

(35:26):
Uh every part of it is sofrustrating, and it's it's just
so sad for these people who whoare essentially trapped in this,
that they, you know, that theyjust have to deal with it and
pray every day that they get tosee tomorrow because the people
running their cities and andtheir states um refuse to help
them.
They'd rather help thesecriminals and delinquency.

(35:47):
Don't forget, we have you know,the Jasmine Crockets of the
world who say this is theirmentality, summed up in a
Jasmine Crockett quote, whichgoes something like, We gotta
stop calling criminal, uh wegotta stop calling people who
commit crimes criminals.

SPEAKER_07 (35:58):
They're not criminals.
I do want people to know thatjust because someone has
committed a crime, it doesn'tmake them a criminal.
That that is completelydifferent.

SPEAKER_04 (36:08):
Criminal's a mindset, is what she said.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (36:11):
Oh, and this is this is what we're up against.
Like this is what we're dealingwith.

SPEAKER_04 (36:16):
And so let's it's let's talk about New York.
Um so New York is now uh it's athree-legged race.
Um so uh Mayor Adams is uh out.
He is he has said he is nolonger running, so now we are uh
Mam Dani, uh Cuomo and Mr.
There's there's more folks.
There's a couple of very smallcandidates with like a 0.001%

(36:36):
chance of getting elected.
And then and then Mr.
Sliwa, who who doesn't have awhole lot of chance of getting
elected, um who's the guy whoruns around with the Guardian
Angels with the red beret on hishead.
Um so really what we're talkingabout is Cuomo and Mam Dani.
And and I can't believe the cityof New York has these as their
two options, and the best optionis Cuomo.
Like that's where we're at rightnow.

SPEAKER_08 (36:58):
This is we're just living in an alternate universe.
Yeah, like that is and we'relike, oh that there is a day
that I'm sitting here going, oh,please let it be Cuomo.
Let it be.
I'm like, how are those wordscoming out of my mouth?
Well, that's because we we havethis guy, Mom Donnie, and I

(37:19):
cannot believe it.
And he is leading by quite abit.

SPEAKER_04 (37:22):
I mean, his margin is he beat Cuomo in the
Democratic primary.
Yeah, Cuomo's now really is anindependent, yeah.
Um and and what everybody'shoping is that as everybody else
bows out, you know, they'reconsolidating votes for Cuomo.
And this, if there is anelection where it is, not vote
for, but vote against right,this is definitely that

(37:43):
election.

SPEAKER_08 (37:44):
Yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, you know, if if thishappens, if mom Donnie, if he's
in, uh you kiss you kiss NewYork City goodbye.
I mean, and it's pretty close toit already, but you kiss it
goodbye because it's gone.
It's gone, completely gone.
And there is absolutely noquestion of that.
That is a fact.
And I I to be honest with you,Clay, I think it's gonna happen.

(38:07):
I think it's actually gonnahappen.

SPEAKER_04 (38:08):
I think it is, and I and I think you know it's it is
going to be uh a matter of uhyear, two years probably before
the city collapses on itself,and it will take 10 times that
long for it to recover becauseit's not just going to be people
that leave, people are going toleave.

SPEAKER_08 (38:28):
People leave, corporations, businesses,
absolutely, you will see.

SPEAKER_04 (38:33):
And and folks, you will see cultural impacts that
you're not even thinking aboutright now.
Broadway will close down becauseof the levels of crime, because
they will target that entiretheater district.
You won't be able to walk in orwalk out, walk out with getting
without getting mugged.
You will see sports teams willpick up and leave out of the
city, right?
You will not have events rightinside of the city of New York.

(38:58):
Um Central Park will become aghost town.
And I know people are thinkingthey think I'm overreacting to
this, but he has said out loud acouple of things.
Mom Donnie has.
He has said that he wants toempty the prisons out, that
prisons are an archaic uh youknow um institution and they're
irrelevant, and he wants to, hedoesn't want anybody to go to
jail at all, period.
Right.
Um he he is a fan of disband thepolice, he is a fan of um public

(39:23):
property becoming all propertybecoming public.
So you will not be able to ownanything uh property-wise in the
city of New York that he wantsto get rid of.
This is this isn't evensocialism, folks.
This is communism with asprinkling of the Muslim
religion because he's alsoendorsed the antifada, global
antifada.
And if you don't know what thatis, that is authorization and

(39:44):
encouragement to kill Jewsanywhere on the planet.
This is the second largestJewish populated urban area in
the world behind Jerusalem.
Or one or the other.
But it's number two in theworld.
So New York is going to get it'sgonna kill itself.
It is gonna collapse, it's gonnabe a black hole, and it is gonna

(40:07):
take 20 years to recover fromthe mess that this guy is about
to unleash.

SPEAKER_08 (40:10):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So um, if you have any plans togo, better go now.
Enjoy the last of it now.
Take lots of pictures because itain't gonna look like that in a
in a couple years.
But um, yeah, I I think this is,you know, unless some miracle
happens.
Do we know?
Um Adams has not given a publicreason for dropping out.
I mean, I'm assuming it's justnumbers, it's just a matter of

(40:31):
numbers.

SPEAKER_04 (40:32):
I don't know I think it's a combination of numbers,
but also that attempt toconsolidate votes.
I I think that somebodyprobably, you know, there was
probably a I hate to say it, buta backdoor phone call probably
between him and some others, andthey all agreed that Cuomo's
probably got the best shots ofbeating him.
Um and he probably agreed towalk away.

SPEAKER_08 (40:50):
Right.
So his endorsement will beimminent, I'm guessing that's
the key is the endorsement.

SPEAKER_04 (40:54):
I I my assumption is that he will make a public
endorsement and it will be Cuomoas he leaves.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (41:00):
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
I mean, so crazy to be sayingthis, but they all better get
behind him fast.
And I there there were some uhbig um millionaires,
millionaire, I don't reallyknow, talking about putting
money uh in the race here too tohelp uh as well.
So if that has happened, I don'tknow.
I hope it does, but oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 (41:21):
But people, the the other thing to watch is who does
and does not endorse him at thenational level from the
Democratic Party.
And I'm talking both of them,Cuomo and Mam Dani.
Anybody that endorses Mam Dani,he becomes the new gold standard
for the Democratic Party.
If he is endorsed by anybody,and I'm talking anybody, AOC,
Nancy Bros, Chuck Schumer,anybody, Hakeem Jeffries,

(41:43):
anybody from the squad, they areendorsing an anti-Semitic Muslim
communist to be the mayor of thelargest major metro area in our
country.
Yeah.
So that is the problem.

SPEAKER_08 (41:54):
Yeah, that he's not hiding any of this.
No.
Um, and he is this far ahead.
Says a whole heck of a lot, andit doesn't say anything good.
So um obviously we're gonna keepwatching that.
That's um disturbing beyondwords and terrifying.
We will see what happens.
Uh oh my goodness, I don't know.
I, you know, I gotta say, I am II have not been to the city in

(42:16):
many, many years, and uh largelybecause of you know how insane
it has gone.
I have no interest in going.
Um having said that, I used tolove, at least to love going to
the city.
It was just we we go, we wouldonly go like four times a year,
and that sounds weird.
We would go seasonally eachseason.
We would go for a seasonalvisit, do all the all the stuff
and things.
And uh, you know, I I missfeeling comfortable and safe
doing that.

(42:36):
And um, yeah, sad, sad, sad,sad.
Um, let's see.
Who would you want to do next?
Oh, let's do this one.
This is a fun one, right?
Since uh our show is on the onthe YouTube.

SPEAKER_04 (42:46):
24 and a half million?
Million.

SPEAKER_08 (42:50):
Yeah, million.
24 and a half million dollarsettlement with Trump after his
2021 suspension lawsuit.
No admission of wrongdoing.
Uh 22 million goes to the trustfor the national mall.
The rest will go to conservativecause.
Oops, I just lost my my notesthere.
Uh conservative cause justliterally shut it right down.
Good job.
Um, conservative causes.

(43:11):
Uh, this is the last of bigtech's major platforms to
settle.
Um, so yeah, so if you guysdon't know, um, let's see.
So each one to some degree orother has admitted, how many
years later, uh, to all of thethings that we have been saying
that they did for years now.
And everyone, including them,especially them, have been
denying and calling us crazylittle tinfoil hat wearing

(43:34):
conspiracists.
And you were never censored.
You were never none of thethings that you say happened.
And now they're like, oh yeah,no, that totally happened.
Yeah, totally did that.
Yeah, you got Zuckerberg, flatout said, Yep, the the Biden
administration pressured us uhto suppress certain things and
um all of that.
And you had uh X, or formerlywhen it was Twitter, uh what was

(43:56):
his name?
Jack, uh, whatever his name is,um, the former owner or CEO of
Twitter said, Yep, we did thosethings.
Yep, that was us.
Uh, who else?
Um, YouTube, of course, andGoogle.
Google was the other one.
So they are all, you know, uhfinally coming clean and saying,
Yeah, we oops.

(44:16):
All the things, all by the way,all the things that you guys
said we did and we denied, wetotally did it.
So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (44:24):
Yeah, and and as indicative of President Trump
and what he does, he's nottaking any of that money.
Right.
Right?
He could easily$24 million,$24.5million pocket that, right?
Yep.
Um, is it owed to him?
Sure it is.
Right.
I mean, think about what helost.
Yeah.
But um, yeah, but he's not.
It's all being given, donated,uh, etc.

(44:47):
And and folks, this is, youknow, like you said, Elsa is it
is, you know, it'sjustification, it's confirmation
of everything that was suspectedthat we all knew that yeah, the
other side, you know, keptsaying, oh no, oh no, you guys
are all crazy.
It's not crazy.
It actually happened, you know,it's it's it's all the things.

(45:08):
It's Hunter Bodden's laptop.
It's it's all the everythingthat we knew that they deny,
deny, deny is all beingconfirmed.
And it's all being done incourt.
And folks, I will tell you, youcan pretend, oh, they settled,
oh they, you know, that's not anadmission of guilt.
They just didn't want the youcan say whatever you want,
you'll never convince me.
They did it.
Now they they've settled out ofcourt, so it is not um, you

(45:29):
know, legally, you know, anissue, but they did it.

SPEAKER_08 (45:32):
Yep.
They did it.
That's an admission, as good asan admission.
And uh, and you know, and stilluntil the day they die in their
last gasp of breath, there willbe people that will continue to
say it didn't happen, and thisis like a shakedown from you
know the Trump administration,and they were bullied into like

(45:53):
the the admission will stillnever come from such a large
percentage of people, which isjust amazing to me.
Like, how much more can beproven to you before you
actually take those blindersoff?
And and they can't, let's faceit, they can't.
They went so hard.
They they ostracized family,they let people not let they

(46:14):
force people to lose their jobs,uh, to be ostracized from
society.

SPEAKER_04 (46:18):
Uh these are the same idiot women who are taking
Tylenol and putting themselvesin comas to prove it's wrong.
It's the same stupidity, right?
It's just denial based onnothing more than hatred.
Um, and and that's you're thosepeople are never going away.

SPEAKER_08 (46:34):
They're never going away.
They're never going away.
They're always going to be thepeople in the comment sections
and in the streets with theiryou know angry signs screaming
how much we're fascists andbigots and racists and this and
that and every other thing theycan think of as they are
screaming slurs at us andthreatening our lives.
But we're the hateful ones.

(46:56):
We're the hateful ones.
Like I'm hateful for sittinghere having this conversation
with you.
You're hateful for having thisconversation.
It's it's a wild, wild.

SPEAKER_04 (47:05):
I'm in their eyes, I'm hateful just because I'm a
white male.

SPEAKER_08 (47:08):
You're a white male.

SPEAKER_04 (47:08):
You are just screwed from the getting.

SPEAKER_08 (47:11):
Yeah.
If they didn't love the devil somuch, they'd call you the devil.
Oh, well, I guess that I guessthat gives a segue, right?
Here we go.
Let's talk about that.
Um, you know, so obviously thisis you know incredibly
disturbing and upsetting.
And and what a surprise.
You're not gonna hear about ituh on the mainstream.
You won't hear it from thealphabet media.

(47:31):
Um, but this is you know, thishas been going on for you know
an absurd length of time.
Um, most people probably are notaware even of the horrors or of
what's happening uh around theglobe to Christians, the
beheadings, the uh you know,murders, the persecution, all of
that.

SPEAKER_04 (47:50):
I mean give you let me give you two numbers, folks,
from Nigeria.
Okay?
One country in Africa, one twonumbers.
One is 1,200.
1,200 churches have been burnedto the ground, Christian
churches burned to the ground.
56,000 is the other number.
56,000 Christians in Nigeriahave been killed.

(48:13):
This is genocide.
That's what this is, okay?
And you won't hear it anywhereelse.
You won't hear, you'll hearthem, you know, people continue
to complain about Gaza, andyou'll hear, you know, but this
is this is crisis.
This is real live, no kiddingcrisis.
56,000 Christians, 1,200churches.

(48:34):
Yeah, religious persecution,this is genocide, folks.
And you know who actually hasgiven it more attention than
anybody else?
Bill Maher.

SPEAKER_08 (48:42):
Go figure.

SPEAKER_04 (48:43):
Yeah, he's an atheist, by the way.
Right.
And he says, Where are all ofthese teenage and 20-year-old
kids protesting this?
Yeah, they're not.
You know why?
Because it's not on the news,they don't know about it.

SPEAKER_08 (48:54):
They're oblivious of it.
They're oblivious.

SPEAKER_04 (48:56):
Yeah.
And then of course we hadMichigan.

SPEAKER_08 (48:58):
Yeah.
Oh, Michigan, awful.
Um, yeah, I mean, Michigan is isyet another uh attack on a
Christian church and um, youknow, just people of faith.
And again, you know, the the thebiggest thing here is the lack
of media attention on it, thelack of care.

(49:19):
And, you know, and I'm sure youget it too.
Um, you know, I can't tell youthere there isn't a post I have
made in the past, you know,whatever, a couple years now,
um, or a year or so.
There isn't a post that I'vemade where at least two, three
people haven't popped in.
It could be about anything, bythe way.
It could be about anythingwhatsoever.
It could be it could be a postthat says it's a lovely day
outside, and somebody will stilljump in and say, not for those

(49:39):
children and people in Gaza thatare being murdered.
What do you have to say aboutthat?
Which, you know, the answer tothat is, well, what do you have
to say about the hundreds, uh uhthousands of um Christians being
murdered um, you know, every dayfor religious uh persecution?
How about that?
Want to talk about that?
And you know, of course, you gotcrickets from them.
They got nothing to say aboutthat, or maybe they'll drop you

(50:00):
an F-bomb.
But yeah, it's really, oh mygoodness, it it's so bad.
It's a I'm just looking at mynotes here.
Nigeria, you talked aboutNigeria.
So the attacks, over a hundredchurches are attacked monthly
per recent reporting.
Open doors 2025 finds 380million Christians face high
persecution globally.

(50:20):
380 million I can't even.
Um in the US, religion-basedhate crimes are rising.
The data from the DOJ showsshows the increases.
Um, and then of course, you haveunder-reporting is an issue in
the poorer nation.
So the numbers that we have areprobably I wouldn't say that
they're just scratching thesurface, but they're not even

(50:41):
giving the full control.
They're not even, yeah, they'renot even accurate.

SPEAKER_04 (50:45):
Um killing Christians because they're
Christian is a hate crime.
It is not classified in thiscountry that way.
It is it it may be by thepolice, it is not by the media,
right?
And that's the problem.
What they classified Michigan asis a the here's the things that

(51:06):
I heard gun crime, assaultrifle, veteran, right?
All I never once heard hatecrime, right?
He attacked a churchspecifically, right?
Right, LDS, Latter-day Saints,Mormon Church.
This was a religious hate crime.
No one ever said hate crime onany any media outlet I saw.

(51:27):
It's a hate crime, people, andnobody classifies it that way
because they're Christians, andthat's why Christians continue
to be persecuted around theworld, is because for whatever
reason, nobody in the mediaclassifies it as a hate crime,
and that's exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_08 (51:41):
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, you nailed it on the head.
That is, I mean, that's it in anutshell.
It's a hate, it is hate crimes,it should be addressed as such.
And, you know, I I don'tunderstand it, you know, why why
Christians in particular uh aretreated with such extreme
disdain.
And and, you know, you take thatdown to a lower level where it's
not we're not high-level murder,persecution, all of those

(52:03):
things.
Um, but you know, there'sthere's the insidious low level
that I see constantly, andthere's so many, just take it,
and we're going real low levelhere.
We're going from really big andhigh to something smaller, but
it all adds up.
It all adds to that apathy.
And that apathy, I think, leadsto the hate and all of those
things.
You know, you look at, I can'ttell you how many television

(52:24):
shows, because you know, yourdiscernment really starts
kicking in pretty hardcore, andyou're hearing all the nuances
when or the nuance when when youstart to hear when you hear it,
you hear it.
And the television shows andthe, you know, the the mocking
of Christians, the mocking of uhanyone who believes in God or
is, you know, just says thatthey're a believer, it's
automatically, you know, treatedlike a like a joke, like you're

(52:44):
a joke, like your faith is ajoke.
Um, and then you know, your nextlevel is is going after uh a
small mom and pop bakery uhChristians and for choosing to
not make a gay wedding cake, Ithink it was, um, or you know,
just declining it, and themgetting sued for millions of
dollars and losing theirbusiness and their livelihood.

(53:05):
They ended up, you know,winning, but it took years and
just destroyed them forever.
And it just escalate, escalate,escalate, and nobody cares.
Nobody cares.
Nope.
I know people care.
We know who we're talking abouthere.
Uh yeah, so it it does need tobe.
I I think at the very least, Ithink it does need to be it,
it's already classified as ahate crime, right?

(53:26):
I mean, it's already classifiedas that, but it needs to be
enforced and and pursued assuch.

SPEAKER_04 (53:31):
And well, I I think the deal it probably is or
potentially is at the lowestlevel.
One, it depends on the districtattorney, right?
Always gotta, you know, they'rethe ones who drive that.
But at the same time, the mediahas to use those words and they
don't.

SPEAKER_07 (53:45):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (53:45):
That's the biggest difference.
Is that you imagine what thiswould look like in the United
States if, and I'm not evengonna use the whole number,
let's just say half.
If 600 mosques and 28,000Muslims were killed in the
United States, could you imaginewhat that would look like in the
media?

SPEAKER_07 (54:02):
Right, right.
Yeah, so true.
So true.

SPEAKER_04 (54:05):
Flip over what's happening in Nigeria, cut it in
half, bring it to the UnitedStates.

SPEAKER_08 (54:09):
Right, right.
Would everybody be quiet aboutthat?
Would you be silent?
Yeah, it'd be a whole differentstory.
Yeah, you know, and and I thinkall we can do is exactly what
you and I are doing and what youknow, I yeah, yeah, pay
attention to it, shine a lighton it, uh, bring it to people's
attention, encourage otherpeople to bring it to other
people's attention and to not bequiet about it and you know, be

(54:32):
as loud as they are.
And and I think um, I thinkthat's I think that's what we
have to do, you know.

SPEAKER_04 (54:38):
Yep, that's all we can do at this point.

SPEAKER_08 (54:40):
At the moment, that's all we can do.
Uh shine a light on it and uhand don't let the pressure off
of that.
Don't, don't, don't let it beswept under the rug.

SPEAKER_04 (54:47):
And um until the Christian church or the Vatican
start endorsing crusades again,that's about as far as we're
gonna go.

SPEAKER_08 (54:53):
That's as far.
Yeah, that's as far as we'regonna go.
We got that.
Oh, what's our time?
Oh, which one, Clay?
What are we doing?

SPEAKER_04 (55:00):
Just let's let's do do your girl.
I think it's the appropriatething to do.

SPEAKER_08 (55:04):
Oh my goodness.
So my girl, my girl Cammy is onthe book tour, as uh as I'm sure
you all well know.
And uh, she has put me back in ajob uh momentarily for a hot
minute.
It's very, very fun.
Um, so so here is uh one of herrecent appearances.

SPEAKER_06 (55:21):
Um, just yeah, here it is to many blessings, and
among them at the highest levelis having been educated at this
university.
Yeah, it is a place whereeverything should be telling you
and reinforcing your brilliance,your entitlement, your right to

(55:45):
be, and our expectation andanticipation of your leadership.

SPEAKER_08 (55:50):
Okay, I can't, I I just I I can't even.
So, you know, these are thethings she's gone around saying.
Of course, the book tour is, youknow, somewhat hilarious, uh,
entirely predictable.
The book itself, no guys, I havenot read it yet.
I just I I really need tomentally prepare for this, okay?
I and I I I think somebody saidthere's an audiobook of it.

SPEAKER_04 (56:07):
So I I for you please tell me right.
She didn't narrate it.
Please tell me.

SPEAKER_08 (56:12):
I believe she did.
I believe so.
I I can't confirm this yet, butthis is how much I love y'all
that I will I will do it.
I will listen to it.
I will speed that thing up and Iwill listen to it as much as I
possibly can because I need tohear this from myself.
I need to hear the the uh theword salads in their uh
entirety.
It it is, you know, it's exactlywhat you guys think it is.

(56:33):
It's a bunch of word saladnonsense.
It's her throwing everyone underthe bus and pretending not to
throw anyone under the bus.
Um, probably one of my favoriteappearances she did was with uh
Rachel Maddow and and uh Rachel,you know, asked the uh
pre-submitted question becausewe know they're all
pre-submitted questions.
And and still, but here's thething that got me is a
pre-submitted question, clearly,because she's got the same

(56:54):
talking points for every singleappearance that she's done, same
exact ones.
And uh the question, you know,she very gently, carefully
touched on the whole um Petebooty gag, booty booty do what
do you call it?
What do we call him?
Booty juice, somebody calls him,whatever.
Uh Pete, I'm just calling himPete.
Um, why she didn't choose himfor um her running mate, right?

(57:17):
And um, and the question was,you know, it's because he's gay.
Is that the reason?
And or that she, you know, cameright and said, you know, it's
that you said it was because hewas gay that you couldn't, you
know, have him as your runningmate.
And uh Kamala does her hang on,hang on, hang on, hang on.
I I you know, I I I didn't saythat.
I didn't say that.
Uh what I said was, you know,and she gives this in total,

(57:40):
like totally walk-around way ofsaying it it wasn't because he
was gay, right?
It it it's because uh he wasgay.
Like that was the gist.
Like a whole bunch of words,which I just spared you all
from, a whole bunch of words tocome right back around and
basically say, well, it isbecause he was gay, and also to

(58:01):
throw the American people underthe bus and say, Well, it's
because you guys are all, youknow, prejudice or you know,
whatever it was like homophobicand all those homophobic.
There you go.
There's the word.

SPEAKER_04 (58:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's not because he was gay, it's because
nobody would vote for himbecause he was gay.

SPEAKER_08 (58:14):
Gay, yeah, yes.
So that was the highlight ofthat whole thing.
There's plenty more um, youknow, roll appearance on the
view.
It's it's guys, it is everythingthat we expected it to be.
And I I I I humbly thank her forthe material.
Oh, yes.
I've even done a couple few uhuh radio and talk appearances

(58:37):
for it.
Uh so yeah, that was that wasfun.
It was like, oh boy, here we goagain.
Every what was the what's thequote from uh The Godfather
every time I try and get out?

SPEAKER_04 (58:46):
I can't believe the worst of the Godfather movies.
Godfather was terrible, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (58:51):
Yeah, yep.
Oh my goodness.
All right, guys.
That that and on that note.

SPEAKER_04 (58:56):
That happy note.

SPEAKER_08 (58:57):
On that happy note, we had to.
There was some tough ones today.
Um, yeah, Clay, you got anythingyou might close them out with?
You want to talk about thatthing we were talking about
before we went on?
Are you not ready to talk aboutthat thing?

SPEAKER_04 (59:06):
I absolutely am.
So, folks, there's been uh, youknow, uh Cross to Bear, right?
Second book of the Terry Davisseries was released on the 9th
of September.
And uh the reception has beengreat.
If you haven't read it, keepmoving, keep shooting is the
first in the series, cross tobear is the second.
And on November 11th, onVeterans Day, ladies and
gentlemen, book three, titledRebellous, uh, will be released.

(59:28):
So the the Terry Davis seriesbook three, very quick
turnaround.
Uh, book three will be releasedon the 11th of November,
Veterans Day.
So we're looking forward tothat.

SPEAKER_08 (59:37):
How perfect is that?
How time your release dates areso awesome.
They're so perfect.
I love it.
I love it.
I can't wait for that to comeout.
Oh my goodness.
All right, guys, you take careof you.
We will see you in the commentssection.
We love you, and we can't waitto chat with you.
So have a great rest of yourevening.
Bye bye.

SPEAKER_03 (59:53):
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Gangs armed like soldiers, ashadowy enemy rising from the
past, and one man who refuses tostand down.
From the quiet suburbs to theshores of Lake Michigan, Terry

(01:00:14):
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Play Novak's explosive newnovel, Cross to Bear, book two
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