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SPEAKER_00 (00:01):
Hello, everyone.
I hope you are doing well.
Recording episode number threeof The Ex Jehovah's Witness.
That's the name of my podcast.
My name is Mitch.
I hope you're doing well.
Yeah, last episode number two, Igot into...
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My family life addressed a fewissues there because on my
TikTok and Instagram accounts, Iwas getting the consensus that
most people felt they wereforced at a young age to be in
the Jehovah's Witness religionslash cult.
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So I just addressed a fewthings, how my life was, and
something that I was talkingwith some other creators about.
It's like we all come fromdifferent backgrounds, right?
But we have the thing in commonis our religion, you know, that
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we were in and that we left.
And we're at a place in ourlives where we're deconstructing
all of that nonsense.
We moved on.
And yet and still, we come fromdifferent backgrounds.
We have different experiences.
And what I was telling them is Irealized that we all have
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different viewpoints.
We have different takes onthings.
And, you know, what makes usfeel the way we do, it's just
different.
But I think we all have thatsame common thread of, like, we
were in that very highcontrolling cult, but we got
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out.
And we help each other thrive.
And so that's what episodenumber two is about, in case you
missed it.
This episode, I wanted to touchon something very serious.
It's the main reason I wanted tobreak away, break ties away from
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that.
religion.
And it has to do with, uh, likewhen you sit on social media a
lot, cause you can't say much onthere, they flag post and
comments left and right.
So a lot of times they just say,uh, CSA, but you know, and I'm,
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I'm referring to like, uh,sexual assaults that took place
and that are taking place.
now within that organization ofJehovah's Witnesses.
And sadly for the victims,nothing is being done for the
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majority of them.
But the great thing is likewe're bringing awareness to it.
When I found out the crookednessof this man-made organization, I
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you know, it just doubled downon how I felt already.
And I really wanted to breakties, but the things I found
out, and it's just not likehearsay, but it's like proof
that people are sending me likeother creators, uh, on social
media.
And they're showing me andtelling me why they are so
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passionate about how they feel.
And they're sending me proof.
And I tell you just like, itmakes you sick to the stomach.
And so, you know, some of youwho listen to this podcast might
not be familiar with how thatreligion works.
Basically, very strict.
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They have a strict code ofconduct that you have to follow,
right?
And, you know, they sayeverything is from the Bible,
right?
So you can't do things like youcan't have sex before marriage
or if you're married, you can'tcommit adultery.
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Anything having to do withanything like that is supposed
to be immediate trouble for you.
You have to talk to thecongregation elders.
They form what they call acommittee, a judicial committee,
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and that is three elders.
And they sit you in a room andthey grill you and talk to you
and question you and ask you allkind of stupid, sickening,
perverted questions about whatyou did to get in trouble.
Their main goal, they say, is tosteer you back into the right
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direction towards God.
They want to heal youspiritually and they're going to
read a bunch of scriptures toyou and They're going to ask you
where your mind is now.
Are you still putting yourselfin those situations that got you
in trouble?
So you have two choices at thatpoint.
If you say, yes, I won't help.
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I'm not doing what I did to getin trouble.
I've changed my circumstances.
I want to work on myself and dowhat's right.
they take that as a repentantattitude.
And so they'll, uh, they call itreproving, which is you can
still be in the congregation.
You can still come to meetings.
You could talk to people.
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Um, but they take certainprivileges away from you, uh,
and you gradually get them backwhile you're under their
guidance.
The other choice is like, sayyou go in there and, uh, You
know, yeah, this is what I did.
I did it.
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Probably not going to stop.
I like doing it.
You know, I have a girlfriend.
She lives with me.
We're not married.
I'm not breaking up with her.
If you have that type ofattitude, they view that as
unrepentant.
And what they're going to do isthey've had so many words for it
over the years.
Jehovah's Witnesses, they'reknown for the word
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disfellowshipping.
or they put you out of thecongregation.
You could still attend meetings,but no one, no one can talk to
you.
Now they call it removing, andthey've kind of lightened their
stance.
So like when I was in, thedecades I was in, it's like this
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fellowship person come in thehall, And you see people like
getting out of their way, notmaking eye contact, not talking,
but they've kind of lightenedtheir stance and saying, you
know, now you can speak to aperson that's been removed.
You know, hi, how are you?
Good to see you here.
So they kind of lighten theirstance, but still like no one
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can like hang out with yousocially or do anything like
that.
So.
Those two choices are forwrongdoers.
Okay, so keep all that in mind.
So, say you're a victim.
You've been done wrong by amember of the congregation.
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You know, someone who's supposedto be trusted.
Like either an elder or rightunderneath an elder is called a
ministerial servant.
So, say...
Somebody in those positions, saythey've done you wrong in some
way.
It can be touchinginappropriately, talking
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inappropriately, all the way upto CSA, okay?
Say the victim, and rememberyou're young, say you tell your
parents.
Say your parents believe you.
Let's go with that scenariofirst.
Say your parents believe you.
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And you all go to the elders.
The elders are going to say,well, does anyone else know
about this?
And see, they have they go bythis.
On the word of two or threewitnesses.
Taken from a verse where Jesusis speaking, if there's a
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conflict between people.
It has to come from the mouth oftwo or three people.
And so the elders are going tosay, does anyone else know about
this?
Well, hell, in most cases, it'stwo people.
The victim and the perpetrator.
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They say it then becomes a hesaid, she said.
So some victims, and I feelhorrible for this, some victims
are, they may be called liars.
Or they may say we believe you.
but it's nothing we can do.
But the most horrendous versionof where I'm going with this is
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oftentimes elders know whenthere is an offender within
their congregation.
They already know.
But this person isn'tdisfellowshipped.
Isn't removed, still free tointeract and mingle amongst the
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congregation when they say oneof the elders primary duties is
to keep the congregation clean.
And that's what I always grew upon.
You know, I'm thinking that likethat's elders job.
They keep the congregationclean, no way in the world.
And they're, they're constantlyfeeding in, in magazines and
literature that we received fromthe organization.
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That elders are going to keepthe congregation clean from
people who don't follow God'slofty moral standards.
That's how they will word it tous.
So, you know, you come up inthat cult and you're thinking
like, this is like a safe haven.
This congregation is for myprotection.
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You know, this is how God andJesus wants it.
And then you find out all thesehorrible truths that are going
on.
And so, yeah, it came to lightthat elders know about offenders
that may be in theircongregation.
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Then I'm finding out if this iscoming from headquarters and the
branch offices.
If they know someone, if anelder knows someone someone like
this in their congregation, sendit to us, the information on
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them.
And they're keeping it on fileat headquarters.
So not only do thecongregational elders know about
these predators, but the branchoffices know.
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The headquarters know.
In New York.
And they have a database.
No one can see it.
No one knows it.
And so imagine if you're.
A young victim.
And sometimes even adultvictims.
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And when I say that, I meancurrently, because there are
it's a large number of adultsnow that went through CSA when
they were younger.
But I'm referring to likecurrently, say if you're a young
one in a congregation somewherearound the world.
And sometimes these perpetratorsare elders.
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Imagine this man has donehorrible things to you.
Imagine no one believes you orthey believe you, but they're
saying there's nothing they cando because it wasn't another
witness to the event.
Imagine them up on the platformtalking.
Or imagine them during a meetingcommenting.
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Like, how do you think thatmakes that young victim feel?
Can you imagine just the mentaland emotional anxiety?
Can you imagine the PTSD?
And that's what's going on.
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But if you bring this up, likeon my TikTok, Especially on that
account, why active Jehovah'sWitnesses pop up on my posts.
And this is where I get angry.
They pop up on the posts whereI'm making recordings and I'm
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telling different experiencesthat I've had with the religion
or how I came up or something Iwent through.
They rear their ugly heads onthose videos, and they say the
most ugliest, vile things to besuch a loving organization.
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They say some pretty horriblethings to me and other creators.
But the posts that I make, andI'm going to read you three
different accounts of threeconvicted ex, well...
One or two of them areex-witnesses.
I'm going to read you what Iposted.
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And I challenged them on severalposts.
I challenged them to pop up onone of those posts and talk to
me about those issues.
And they won't do it.
Why?
Because their brain works sohard in that cult.
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To just, you know, they justdon't want to believe it.
And I tell them, like, if theycome at me respectfully, I
return the respect.
And I tell them, I have been inyour shoes.
I know how you feel.
I know what you're thinking.
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Like, for 50 years, I was proJehovah's Witnesses.
I didn't want to hear anythingbad about the organization.
I didn't want to read anythingbad about it.
And I'm pleading with them justto have an open mind to look at
this.
Don't take my word for it.
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Like I'm posting proof.
You can go.
It's matters of public record.
Like.
Open your mind.
Stop being lazy.
And you can look this shit upyourself that I'm talking about
and that I'm posting.
Real facts.
Like, take emotion out of it andjust think.
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And they will not do it.
They feel that, you know, thisis the true religion.
And you know what really, reallypisses me off?
Some have had the audacity tosay, that the victims are lying.
You know, one of my friendsposted, she opened it up and I
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know it was hard for, Icommended her for posting this,
but she told about yesterdayposted about, um, what happened
to her and, you know, thethought process, why it took a
while to come forward.
And do you know some idiots, um,a.k.a.
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Jehovah's Witnesses, werepopping up on that post saying
she was lying.
Why did it take you a while totell?
What kind of bullshit is that?
And yet, that's the culture.
Most of the people in thatreligion deflect.
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They don't like to face hardfacts.
Rather, they deflect.
And how low of an individual,how low of a human being do you
have to be to deflect thatbullshit onto a young victim?
I don't know.
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It's frustrating.
And that is the culture in thatreligion.
As I mentioned, fortunately,governments are starting to
realize that the ugliness andlike everything that's going on
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all the secrets and themishandling of information that
these elders are receivingthey're viewing it as like
confidentiality if they find outabout a predator and know about
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him or her, that that wassomething told to them in
confidence.
But that should make them amandated reporter to tell, just
like other entities.
You know, if a teacher asks astudent questions and she, you
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know, gets the student tellingher things about what's
happening in their home life andabuses involved, it becomes her
or his responsibility to, uh,tell the administration there
and they get law enforcementinvolved.
Like that's just how it shouldbe.
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But Jehovah's witnesses, theelders, they don't operate like
that.
It's ironic too, because in, inliterature that we receive, uh,
from the leaders there and theycall themselves the governing
body in literature that theypump out to the organization and
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in assemblies and conventions,they are constantly pumping it
into our brains.
If you're with a, uh, you know,a witness, no matter if they're
just a friend or a family memberor relative, if they do
something wrong and you see itor no, you know, you come to
know of it, You need to talk tothis person and you need to let
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them know that you're going togive them a certain amount of
time to go tell on themselves tothe elders.
If not, I'm going to have to goand tell.
They put this snitch cultureinto your brain.
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So everybody's telling oneverybody, self-policing.
But then when it comes tosomething as important as CSA,
the elders don't want to tellwho they need to, which is law
enforcement, to get thesemonsters dealt with.
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Like, that's so hypocritical tome.
It's sickening.
Sickening is disgusting, and yetthat's what's happening.
I'm talking to so many peoplewhere they say, like, yeah, my
parents knew.
The elders knew.
Nothing happened.
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This person was still in thecongregation.
And I'm like, wow.
And so one of my new friends,and she's like over in the UK,
and she was like, do you want tosee something?
Like, truly disgusting.
I'm like, yeah.
And I'm just going to tell y'allthis so y'all realize like how
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deep this goes.
And so she sent me a letter andit was a letter from the branch
and they were responding to abody of elders in a particular
congregation.
And that's how it starts off.
You know, dear brothers, this isin response to the letters you
all sent about so-and-so.
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We understand your concern thatthis person confided in you all
in confidence about murders thathe's committed.
Paul's right there.
In my head, I'm like, oh, youknow, they're about to tell tell
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them those elders to like givehim the business, like get his
ass up out of there.
So I unpause to read more.
We feel that there's really noneed for anyone to know this
information.
Let him continue in thecongregation.
Besides, if it got out, you sayhe's newly married and that
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would devastate that sister ifshe found out about something
like that about his past.
At this moment, I'm like, what?
In the fuck am I reading?
This organization that I havegave my life to, devoted my life
to, been telling me how morallyclean they are and uphold God's
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righteous standards.
Like, am I really reading this?
So I went to the beginning andstarted reading again.
And I'm just like a literalnauseated feeling came over me.
And Yeah, that's how the letterread, telling the bodybuilders
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in that congregation, just keepit quiet, keep it hush-hush.
And it continued.
Now, there is a question aboutif he used marijuana.
Have two elders talk to him,question him about that.
If it needs to be a judicialcommittee, can be formed about
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the marijuana usage.
But not the murders.
And what's that phrase?
The straw that broke the camel'sback.
That shit was it for me.
I was done.
I was like, fuck thatorganization.
Fuck the governing body.
Fuck the elders that know.
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Like, I was done.
And like I said earlier, it'ssupposed to be.
A safe haven, right?
The congregation.
How the hell is it safe whenmembers that the congregation
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don't know about are predators?
Not only sexual predators, buthell, the letter I read, like,
homicidal predators, too.
Like, are you kidding me?
And they're telling the elders,keep this shit hush-hush.
I lost all faith in in theorganization in that moment.
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Like it had already been comingand I was having the questions
and the doubts and I felt I wasliving a lie because I wasn't
feeling it anymore at the end oflast year.
Stopped going all together and,you know, in June last month, I
find this out and yeah, like I'mso done.
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A couple people ask me, do Ithink I'll ever go back?
Hell no.
For what?
Like, I want them dismantled.
More and more people need toknow about them.
And there's already, you know,what's the general consensus
about Jehovah's Witnesses isthat they're a cult.
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They're too strict.
You all can't do this.
You all can't do that.
But yet and still, You haveelders protecting freaking
molesters and predators.
It's sickening.
I'm telling you, like.
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They have the audacity to try totalk about other religions.
Like if you ever go to ameeting, a Jehovah's Witness
meeting, an assembly or aconvention.
They put themselves up on apedestal and they are dogging
out every other religion.
And they even talk aboutCatholics and all the trials and
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everything and priests molestingkids there.
They talk about it.
But it's happening in thatorganization.
You are not clean.
And they portray themselves tobe But how can you be?
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And you have.
Individuals crying out in pain.
Trying to raise awareness.
And.
Trying to let.
The world know what happened tothem.
What's going on.
Some even go into kingdom hallsand interrupt meetings.
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And I'm pretty sure that's whythey.
Changed the.
how attendants operate in the,uh, at the kingdom of the door
used to be in a lot, but now thedoor is locked and there's dang
ring cameras and the entranceattendant, like they have to
know you, they, you know, theyhave to know you to come in or
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the, it's a little screeningprocess.
We did it.
It was someone we didn'trecognize.
And I'm sure that's probably whythey, uh, made it so airtight
because individuals were comingin during meetings and trying to
warn the congregation.
Now, was it right that they didit like that?
No, because it gives thewitnesses something to work
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with.
Jehovah's Witnesses love to playthe damn victims.
And so they would say, oh,they're just fanatics.
Oh, look how we are persecuted.
The world hates us.
Jesus said the world hated him.
They will hate us.
Look, it's happening.
We're being persecuted.
So we must be the true religion.
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That's how Jehovah's Witnessesroll.
They spin anything negative thathappens to them into they're
just being persecuted and it'sSatan's fault.
And so, yeah, I understand whythe people barge in like that,
but there's better ways to doit.
Like, I want to see everyone doit in a way where Jehovah's
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Witnesses can't play the damnvictim card.
Because if it's something that aJehovah's Witness will do, it is
play the damn victim card.
When in reality, they are thetrue monsters.
A bunch of arrogant,hypocritical snobs is what I
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call them.
Another reason, like, I couldn'troll with that religion anymore.
So let me get into the firstone.
And so the three examples thatI'm using, real court cases, you
can look them up your damn selfif you want to see for yourself,
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which I urge you to do.
Don't take my word for it.
It's in public records andgovernments' files.
These particular instances justhave to be Happen to be from
Pennsylvania.
But yeah, they're happeningaround the United States and
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different countries around theworld.
Look up Australia.
It's going crazy in Australia.
When I find out the number ofallegations in Australia that
the government are like, y'allneed to come up off those names
and that they're trying toprotect It's the last time I
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looked, it was just shy of 2,000perpetrators that the government
want those names of the ones,the predators that are doing
these horrendous things.
Yet, the Jehovah's Witnessorganization is trying to
protect them.
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Won't work with the government.
Sickening, I'm telling you.
Do your own damn research andlook.
Like, this shit is for real.
It's true.
So, this first monster, he wentto a congregation in
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Pennsylvania, Forest HillsCongregation.
Mark Brown.
Let me see.
He was arrested in February of2023.
He was an active witness.
Act of Jehovah's Witness, policereport says he molested two
female minors who were hisstepdaughters, to whom he was a
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legal guardian at the time.
The assaults on the 12 and13-year-old girls mainly
occurred in the shower and intheir beds, which Brown would
call horseplay.
He molested them while theirmother was away more than 20
times.
Records indicate between theyears of 2004 through 2006, one
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of the girls testified that heused threats to keep her silent,
and if she reported her abuse,he would also sexually assault
the other girl.
On one occasion, to prove histhreats were real, Brown
strangled the girl until sheurinated herself.
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Then he made her mop up theurine.
He also told one of the sistersthat she was a child, so no one
would ever believe her.
Imagine how true that was.
She found out how true that was,probably.
Because, yeah, the elders try tosay that the victim is lying.
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Which is complete and utterbullshit.
Eventually, one of the sisterswas at a breaking point wrote in
her diary about the abuse.
She left it open for her motherto see.
The mother read it, went to theelders of the congregation about
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the abuse, and kicked Brown outof the house.
It was then that the sisterslearned that they were both
being abused in the same timeframe.
So they didn't even know theother was being abused.
They said records...
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don't indicate that the eldersor the family went to the
authorities about the abuse.
Let me see here.
There's a recent update on MarkBrown as of March of 2025.
His plea slash sentencing willbe held at the Pennsylvania
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Courthouse and they give thejudge's name And it's a link
there.
You can look it up to see aboutthat case.
And if y'all want to, like Isaid, look this shit up for
yourself.
I found a very nice website,jwchildabuse.org.
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And you can see they have abunch of information about what
I'm talking about.
Here's another piece of trash.
He was in the Lancastercongregation in Pennsylvania.
Norman Gariga.
I think that's how you pronounceit.
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But he was an active Jehovah'sWitness in that congregation.
Not only was he an activemember, he was an elder when he
was charged in February of 2023.
This nice gentleman.
Sarcasm.
was convicted for molestingthree young girls from his
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extended family while settlingin the US from Puerto Rico.
Though the girls told the motherabout the abuse, as little as
five years old, the mom took noaction.
They tried to discredit whatthey was telling them was
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happening.
During sentencing, 25 familymembers testified on both sides,
some defending him and hischaracter, condemning his
refusal to acknowledge the harmhe caused.
The victims described lastingtrauma, including panic attacks
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and suicidal thoughts, whichhappens to a lot of these
victims, sadly.
You know, either no one believesthem or no action.
No justice being taken.
And sadly, that's the result.
PTSD, suicidal thoughts.
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But do the witnesses or elderscare?
Abso-fucking-lutely not.
So they said, yet in trial,another Jehovah's Witness elder
told the court that the girlswere likely lying and that the
judge should consider that.
So you had an elder...
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saying that the girls were lyinghow sick and low is that and
remember they're supposed to beprotecting the congregation the
judge thank goodness declaredhim a sexually violent predator
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the judge praised the victims asheroes for their courage in
seeking justice Stating, at lastyou and the truth both win.
One of the victims said that shehad waited 25 years to get
justice after her mother and twocongregations ignored her about
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the abuse.
Let that sink in.
Her mom and not one, but twocongregations ignored her.
That's what's going on, peoplearound the world.
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After 25 years, I finally couldtell everyone what happened and
was finally believed.
That's the best feeling, shesaid.
And she said she was thankful tothe grand jury.
Let me see here.
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He got sentenced.
to 11 1⁄2 to 25 years in prison.
And this was in October of 2024.
So he got sentenced to 11 1⁄2 to25 years in prison on 12 charges
of sexual assault againstchildren in families that were
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hosting him from 1999 to 2003.
Sickening.
And, you know, here's a casewhere the parent nor the elders
did anything.
One more example.
This is from the Sheridancongregation in Pennsylvania.
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Roger Zellers.
He was an active Jehovah'sWitness in that congregation
when he was charged in April of2024.
Police reports state that hesexually assaulted his
stepdaughter.
She was 9 and 10 when ithappened in 1992 and 1993.
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Get this.
He turned his sexual abuse intoa teaching lesson and
strategically planned his abusewhen her mother was working or
out of town.
In 1993, the victim's aunt, whowas close in age to her, caught
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Zellers one day on top of thevictim.
She fled with the victim to herhouse and told her grandmother
and the girl's mother about whatshe had seen.
The mother reported the abuse ofher daughter to the congregation
elders.
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The elders actuallydisfellowshipped him for what
happened.
Which is surprising.
This is the sick part.
And maybe this is.
I wasn't there.
I don't know.
I'm just saying maybe this iswhy.
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They took action.
In an elders report.
About his abuse.
When asked if he would do itagain.
This monster said.
Quote.
Probably would.
End quote.
And that came off that he wasnon-repentant.
Remember, I was telling youabout that at the beginning of
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this episode to them that showhe's not repentant.
So they disfellowshipped or asthey pretty it up and calling
now removed him from thecongregation.
He was a true monster.
Just telling you, nope, probablywon't stop.
Records don't indicate that theelders or family went to the
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authorities about that abuse.
Somehow the authorities foundout because, you know, he was
put on trial.
And it was supposed to happen inlike March.
I'm sorry, the trial wassupposed to happen in May of
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2025.
So, yeah, somehow theauthorities found out.
Not sure if it was the elders,probably not.
But see, these are the things.
that go on in that organization.
And like I said, I'm justtelling you because of time
constraints, I just told youthree, I've read so many
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accounts and like I keep saying,like, go see for yourself.
The internet is a beautifulthing.
When you use it the right way,go see for yourself.
The atrocities that arehappening in the Jehovah's
witness organization.
Look up that Australia, likewhat's happening in Australia
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and different countries aroundthe world, even in Europe and
America.
A big case coming up in Americais like a class action lawsuit.
And I watched the interview withan attorney who's representing
this, I think it was like threedozen ex-witnesses that he's
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representing.
over these CSA cases and man,this attorney, my heart went out
to him because he's saying it'slike some of the worst abuse and
coverup schemes that he hasseen.
And at one point he has to stopbecause he's literally getting
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emotional and about to breakdown.
He says, that's how bad it is.
He hasn't seen anything likethis in his opinion.
What he's seeing in theJehovah's Witness organization
and the cover-ups that they dois like worse than the Catholic
Church.
His words.
And I mentioned that to afanatic JW cult member earlier
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this week, and their head almostcombusted.
You know, they do not want tohear facts.
Just get that in your head.
Now, Jehovah's Witnesses do notlike hearing facts.
Jehovah's Witnesses run off ofhigh emotion.
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And they throw out thesecatchphrases to you that's so
popular in their cult.
And like I said, they're goingto pull out that victim card
sooner or later.
But easiest way to make aJehovah's Witness become
unhinged.
is state hardcore facts aboutthe organization to them.
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They have no defense for that.
They'll either say you're makingit up.
One of their popular ones is,oh, bad stuff like this happens
in every religion.
Why aren't you talking aboutother religions?
Or they'll say we're just beingpersecuted because we're the
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true religion.
Jesus said he got persecuted, sowe'll be persecuted too.
That's Jehovah's Witnesses'defense in a nutshell.
The organization thinks forthem.
And quite honestly, they're justlike brainwashed robots
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repeating catchphrases that thegoverning body vomits onto them.
That's what you're going to getfrom Jehovah's Witnesses.
Every congregation meeting,every assembly, every Jehovah's
Witness convention is ideals andcatchphrases that the governing
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body vomits into their brainlessheads and that they repeat over
and over and over.
And I'm sure you know witnessesor you work with some, some
maybe relatives, and you know,it's sad.
And now, Being on the outsideand looking in to what I used to
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be in, you know, it sickens me.
But that's the mind control thatthey have on you.
Some of my videos that I've beenposting this week, that's what
I'm saying, that the governingbody and, you know, these, what
they...
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put out in the monthly broadcastthat they shoot to every witness
around the world on theirwebsite and you know the
literature and meetings and theassemblies and the conventions
I've been saying it's all likepsychops and mind control you
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know and they tell the mindlesssheep in the colt That people
like me who speak up, they callus apostates.
Now, if you look it up in asecular dictionary, an apostate
is someone who's left like areligion or a set of ideals.
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It can even be in business.
You know, you can have thesebeliefs about business, but then
you change your beliefs.
So that's what an apostate is.
Someone who, you know, in areligion, you don't believe in
that anymore.
He changed the direction.
Now, from the governing body,the leaders of the Jehovah's
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Witness cult, their definitionof an apostate or people who are
like me who left the religionand who speak out against it,
their definition in theirliterature and the programs that
they have, Their definition isthat we're under, like, demonic
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influence and that we aren'tmentally stable and that we've
lost our mind and the mindlesssheep eat it up.
And everyone I have been talkingto, and a lot of times we joke
and call ourselves the freethinkers because we had an open
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mind and looked into everything.
and used our critical thinkingthat we've been blessed with.
And we're like, we are calm.
We are collected.
We show facts.
We speak our truths.
But you want to know who theunhinged ones are?
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Because the governing body ispainting to them that we are the
unhinged ones and we're spewingoff lies and mistruths.
The unhinged ones are the activeJehovah's Witnesses that pop up
on our post.
Want to know the very ironicthing about that, about them
popping up?
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Like when they're telling theorganization about how bad we
are and don't talk to us, don'tlisten to us, don't read our
material because we don't wantyour minds to be influenced by
their demonic ways.
controlled minds.
They tell them, and they givethem this warning, don't engage
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with them.
We know sometimes you want todefend the religion, but even on
social media, don't engage withthem.
Don't go in their commentsection.
Don't talk to them.
Just keep scrolling.
Block them.
They are given very cleardirection from their master's In
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New York, don't engage with us.
The ironic thing is, so manyactive Jehovah's Witnesses pop
up on mine and other people'saccounts that are spreading the
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absolute truths about that ugly,wicked organization.
Active Jehovah's Witnesses popup on our posts And they just,
like I said, they're unhinged.
And the things that come out oftheir mouth, you know, someone
told me to go hang myself.
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Someone, not someone, several ofthem said they're going to be
laughing when Jehovah Goddestroys you at Armageddon for
talking about the organization.
They're going to be laughingwhen I'm destroyed.
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But that's the true religion.
That's Christ-like and modelthemselves after Christ and show
love.
That's the true religion, huh?
Saying you're going to laugh ifsomebody dies or go hang
yourself.
And these are coming fromwitnesses all around the world
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that say these crazy, hateful,spiteful, Unhinged remarks on my
account.
They tell me to delete posts.
I'm telling y'all.
Jehovah's Witnesses have to bethe most arrogant sons of
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bitches ever.
They pop up on my account andtell me to delete posts.
Like what in the actual fuck?
Like who do you think you are?
And I tell them that too.
I'm like, this is my account.
I post what I want to.
You decided to stop on here.
And each and every person, Itell them, you know good and
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well your master's told you, donot engage with me.
You are on an apostate account.
You're not even supposed to betalking to me.
And I wish, a lot of us wishthat we could just find out the
information of what congregationthey're in and we would just rat
them out.
since they believe in thatsnitch culture.
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But you know what a lot of themdo?
They have these burner accountsand no names, no profile
picture, and they're popping offat the gums on our accounts
under different posts, spewingJehovah's Witness hatred like
they usually do.
I'm telling you, if you knowanyone in that religion who or
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you know someone's studying orsomeone thinking about studying
like just hope that they don'tgo through with it because it's
just a sick twisted organizationand I'm telling you this is
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someone talking to you who wasin it for over 50 years I know
the ins and outs of it I've Andif you follow me on TikTok, I'm
making little videos aboutthings that I've experienced,
things I've seen, things Ididn't like, and I'm just
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bringing everything to light.
I want transparency on that cultbecause it is hurting people
now.
Think of the ones that gothrough abuse now that we don't
even know about.
that's being kept quiet.
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And then I want justice forthose where something ugly and
negative happened to them now,and they're adults now, and
they're trying to thrive asadults, but they have this ugly
past because of the Jehovah'sWitness organization.
They have this ugly past intheir head, and no justice is
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being taken.
That's why I do this.
And I'm very clear with everyonewhy I do it.
Even the bobbleheads that pop upon my post on TikTok.
And I let them know why I'mdoing it.
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I'm not keeping it a secret.
And they always ask me, why areyou doing this?
You know you shouldn't be doingit.
And I tell each and every one ofthem, Go scroll.
To the bottom of my videos.
And follow my video progressionwhen I first started this, at
first I was just kind of postingphotos.
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Because I was still trying tolike.
Get out there and like.
OK, I'm about to do this, so Iposted like several photos.
And then one day I was like, youknow what?
It's time to stop hiding.
and speak my truth.
And I made five introductoryvideos, which explains my
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thought process as to why Iwanted to stop being a Jehovah's
Witness.
So I invite them, I say, scrolldown my account, start from the
beginning, stop being lazy, andyou'll see exactly why I'm doing
this.
But they don't want to do that.
Jehovah's Witnesses have to bethe most laziest people because
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they don't like to do their ownresearch.
They'll rather have theorganization think for them.
Whatever they read, that's theirthought process.
In a nutshell, that's thetypical Jehovah's Witness.
Whatever they read from theirmasters in New York is their
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typical mindset.
And I made a post about thisthis morning.
It's like when you're learningabout the religion and you're
studying to be in it, they drillin your head.
Now, while you're studying andwhile we're teaching you the
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Bible, please keep an open mindso that you can fully grasp what
we're trying to teach you fromthe Bible.
They want you to have an openmind.
As soon as you get baptized, Imean, you haven't even dried off
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yet.
They want you to stop having anopen mind.
And one of the baptismalquestions, you're pretty much
pledging allegiance to thegoverning body.
Like you're admitting that theyare God's representatives on
earth.
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Like, that's your channel to Godthrough them.
So the information that they'reputting out is from God.
So that's what they have in you,like, say.
And you're saying that you willnever go against the governing
body.
And that whatever they tell youto do, you will do it
faithfully.
Even if it seems like somethingstrange to do, you will do it.
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Like, that's one of the baptismquestions.
that the elders go through withyou.
And so they want you to havethis closed off mind when you're
a Jehovah's Witness.
Don't listen to any outsideinfluence.
Don't visit other churches.
Don't read other versions of theBible that may be put out from a
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certain denomination orreligion.
Don't view other religiousprograms.
Don't listen to anything And byall means, do not.
We mean do not listen toapostates who used to be
Jehovah's Witnesses.
Because they are all beinginfluenced by Satan and the
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demons and they are telling justoutright lies.
So as soon as you get baptizedand become a witness, they want
you to just close off your mind.
Only accept what they tell you.
Only do what they tell you.
And I'm quite open with some ofthe ones that pop up on my
posts.
And I'm telling them, like,you're being controlled.
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You know, they tell me Ishouldn't post something.
And I always tell them I'm not aJW.
Like, go read my bio again.
I'm an ex-JW.
And I tell them, like, the rulesthat you have from your masters
do not apply to me.
I do whatever the hell I want.
And they, man.
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They about lose their fuckingmind when I tell them that.
They're not used to freethinking.
They are used to people thinkingfor them.
I'm trying to tell all y'allthis, not to bash them, but just
to let you all know what you'redealing with, the mentality
you're dealing with when youtalk about the average Jehovah's
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Witness around the world.
That's their mentality.
And yeah, I'm quick to tell themlike I'm not under.
The control of your masters and.
Like, I'm just going to eachday.
My obligation is to just put outmore and more light.
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About that dark organization.
And.
Like the more.
We speak up.
and just boldly tell what weknow, hopefully the quicker
action can be taken against thatorganization starting at the
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top.
Because it's just a huge scheme.
It's a cult.
The leaders there is just a bigreal estate property
money-making scheme.
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And that's the God honest truth.
And that's why, honestly,personally, that's why I think
they're so hush-hush about itbecause they like to hold on to
all their money from thecontributions they get from all
the blind sheep from around theworld.
And, you know, if they have tokeep paying out all these damn
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lawsuits, that's cutting intotheir real estate money.
You know, and I'm just beinglike.
Honest and open as I can withyou.
I think that's why I thinkthat's besides being fucking
evil.
I think that's one of thebiggest reasons they don't want
to pay out lawsuits and they'relosing lawsuits.
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You know, with all this comingout.
And the government starting topick up on what's going down.
And so, yeah, I think money.
has to do with it, as to whythey're being shady, quiet,
keeping this database full ofdamn predators from around the
world that they know who theyare, but they're not giving it
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up to the authorities.
I think it's all fueled bymoney.
But yeah, I just wanted to sharewith everyone my number one
reason that I am against thatorganization known as Troubles
Witnesses.
And a lot of them who pop up onmy post, they say, oh, you're
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just mad because somebody didsomething to make you mad.
And I'm like, God, y'all arejust petty and lowly educated.
But it's like bad things happenin that organization.
And I'm not going to be a partof the cover-up.
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I want the world to know whattype of organization they are.
And that's why I do what I do.
That's the number one reasonright there.
The abuse that goes on wherethere's no justice for the
victims.
But it's starting to change,which makes me very happy.
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And so I want that momentum tokeep on swinging in favor of the
victims and, you know, bringdown that stupid organization.
So I hope you enjoyed thisepisode.
Please, oh, if you have, want toemail, I've been getting nice
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emails and people telling metheir stories and I'm answering
questions.
So if you want to email me, myemail address is xjw1 at
gmail.com.
So it's exjw1 J-D-U-B, thenumber one, at gmail.com.
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Most of my social mediaaccounts, if you put in X-J-Dub,
E-X, J-D-U-B, it should pull meup.
But Facebook, Twitter, TikTok,Instagram, YouTube, Man, I'm
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finding a lot of friends fromaround the world on YouTube
telling me their stories andvery supportive of what I'm
doing.
So if you're listening to thison YouTube, I thank you.
I appreciate all of you.
And, yeah, I'm just going tokeep doing what I'm doing.
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Each and every day I'm going toput out something against that
evil organization.
So, yeah.
Look me up on social media too.
But I appreciate each and everyone of you.
I thank you from the bottom ofmy heart for listening to me.
I hope you have a great day anda great week.
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Go do something positive.