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June 9, 2025 16 mins

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Welcome to another episode of The Exposure Scientist Podcast with your host, Dr. Alex LeBeau. In today's episode, we're diving into a topic that's been making headlines and sparking curiosity—microplastics. With mounting news coverage and a surge of recent research, the conversation around microplastics is more relevant than ever. Dr. LeBeau breaks down what microplastics actually are, where they're turning up in our daily lives—from drinking water to marine life and even within the human body—and explores the big questions science is still working to answer. Are microplastics truly a hazard? What does the latest research say about health risks, and how do our bodies handle these tiny invaders? Join us as we navigate the science, the uncertainty, and the ongoing quest for answers about the presence and potential effects of microplastics in our world. And don't forget, you can now leave your thoughts or questions on our newly updated website—Dr. LeBeau would love to hear from you as we continue this conversation together.


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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
You might not realize it, but we are exposed
to dozens of hazards every day.
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My name is Alex LeBeau, and herewe answer your questions and
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(00:21):
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the particulars of your exposurescenario Hello and welcome to

(00:43):
today's episode of the ExposureScientist podcast.
Today we are going to bediscussing microplastics as
there has been a renewed andincreased focus on them in the
news and other researchpublications.
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So again, I mentioned today'ssubject is microplastics.
And I've seen a renewed focus onthese in inquiries that we have
received as well as publicationsand news articles.
So I think it's important To atleast kind of generally talk
about, EPA recognizes thatthere's microplastics.

(01:46):
They call them microplastics.
Sometimes they're callednanoplastics.
Sometimes they're called micronanoplastics, depending on who's
using it or where you'relooking.
But they follow along certain,I'll say, size fragments.
And potentially, the smaller thefragments, the more surface area
they have, the more impact theymay have.

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Generally, when you're lookingat nanoparticles, they have a
higher surface-to-weight ratioor surface-area ratio.
And that causes maybe more of anincreased potential for
interactions.
So some of the news articlesthat I have seen on
microplastics lately surroundthe use of them or
identification of them.

(02:29):
Recently, I think there was acardiovascular conference where
they discussed detection ofthese and detection of
microplastics within the plaqueformations within arteries and
saying, hey, look, these wereassociated or these were found
in these plaques.
It's important to understand andcontextualize all the

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information that we are goingthrough on here for identifying,
okay, well, what are thepotential hazards and what are
the risks?
So the four steps in a riskassessment generally are hazard
identification, exposureassessment, toxicity or dose

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response assessment, and riskcharacterization.
So we're at the first step.
Hazard and identification.
Are microplastics a hazard?
And that's an interestingquestion.
I think it's important foranything that we do.
And just to emphasize this, I'veseen this and I've had clients
ask this, and we just have tocontinually remind them,

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science, scientific methods,scientific processes, not a fast
process.
I think we all know that.
It's not something that can bedone overnight or within a week.
There's There's a process fordoing this.
There's a process forunderstanding, evaluating,
looking at the data, gatheringthe data, identifying whether or
not it's a hazard.
Now we can use something calledthe precautionary principle and

(03:55):
say, hey, if we think it'sdefinitely going to be a hazard,
let's put a hold on it.
Let's do some protectivemeasures, and then we'll
generate the data.
But I don't know if we're thereyet, so I'll present some of the
information.
Now, to give this some context,I'm going to give you, I'll say,
some headlines and some newsarticles that I've seen.

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And remember, whenever we'retalking about this, there is the
exposure, what people are beingexposed to, what is
internalized.
And then we have to figure outwhat this stuff may be doing to
the body, if at all.
how fast it gets out of thebody.
There's lots of things that gointo toxicological assessment of

(04:38):
an exposure.
And again, science is not fast.
So again, some of the newsarticles that I've seen, I'm
just looking at them now,they're talking about
microplastics in marine life,microplastics found on beaches.
Drinking water havingmicroplastics in them,
microplastics in the food chainfound in fish.
This one is involving seals andlooking in seal stomachs to see

(05:04):
what may be in there.
There's lots of informationabout microplastics, the
presence of them within, I'llsay, the food chain.
Now, one of the questions is, ifthey're in the food chain, do
they...
what's called bioaccumulate.
Is there an additive kind of,you know, is it in one smaller

(05:24):
thing and a small fish and abigger fish eats that and those
microplastics stay in there andthen maybe a human eats that
fish and then we get all themicroplastics that are both in
the smaller fish and in thelarger fish.
That is something I think we'restill probably attempting to
identify.
EPA, if you go to the website,search EPA microplastics, they

(05:46):
have, hey, research is going on.
to figure out what are thepotential health risks.
Because right now...
I don't think there are any thatare really established from a
health risk perspective.
There have been some studies, alot of studies have been
published in 2025 surroundingmicroplastics.
There were some at the end of2024, but again, it's got a big

(06:07):
focus right now.
There's some that talk about thepresence of microplastics in the
brains of people who have passedaway and they are doing
autopsies on them andidentifying what's in them.
They have identified thatthere's some studies that have
identified microplastics inblood.
Again, I mentioned And then theone study from the
cardiovascular association,cardiovascular presentation that

(06:30):
talked about the presence ofthem on plaques, arterial
plaques, looking atmicroplastics in the lungs, what
may be from either inhalation orother exposures.
There have been discussions ofmicroplastics that are in the
liver as well as a digestivetract, of course, from eating

(06:51):
them.
There's even a study that talksabout microplastics from
disposable face masks.
So there's lots of studiesevaluating them.
I may have mentioned this in theprevious podcast.
There have been some studiesthat have attempted to identify
what the potential health risksare.
But what are the health risks?

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What are we looking at?
So generally, we talk aboutthese things that are called
biomarkers of exposure, whichsay, hey, these people have been
exposed.
We may be able to usemicroplastics as a biomarker of
exposure.
What is a biomarker of effect?
Well, it's something thatchanges as a result of the
exposure, whether it's a levelof a certain enzyme or whatever

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it is to show that the body isreacting.
So what's it encountering?
Some studies have attempted touse what we call cell lines or
generally petri dishes on alaboratory top that says, hey,
we're putting these in thesecells and seeing what happens.
And that's good.
That's fine.
That's interesting.
A, you have to make sure thatthese are reproducible studies.

(07:56):
I'll say they're generallyaccepted methodologies that are
easily reproducible.
Some studies have standardguidance for them.
Some of them are just kind of,hey, We're doing this as
research purposes.
A, it's important to understandthe difference between the two.
Is this something that is donein what is called a good
laboratory practice?
They have all these safeguardsin place.
Or is this done in a benchtop ina little research laboratory

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A, B, what are the exposuremechanisms?
So if they're exposing cells andsaying, hey, these microplastics
kill these cells, you have tounderstand that we're more than
just cells in the Petri dish.
We are complex organisms,animals, what have you, are
complex organisms wheredifferent types of cells are

(09:23):
interacting all the time.
It may be where, fine, we haveexposures, but our body's goal,
if something's not supposed tobe in there or if our body has
used up what's in there, ourbody's goal is to get it out.
That's what we do probablymultiple times a day is we take

(09:44):
stuff in and we get it out.
We use what we need and we'redone with it.
Same thing with other exposures.
If our body doesn't want that inthere, doesn't need anything
from it, doesn't benefit from itin any way, we're getting it
out.
Sometimes certain chemicals orcertain constituents or
substances may stay in our bodylonger than what we'd want.

(10:11):
Some of them get out prettyquickly depending on how our
bodies are used to addressingand handling them.
What are microplastics?
Well, I'd say there's a limitedamount of studies to see how
quickly they get out of ourbody.
There's some studies that haveevaluated the presence of
microplastics in urine.
Is that something that showsthat our body is attempting to

(10:32):
get it out, get it out in a fastway?
That's something that's stillbeing evaluated.
How fast is our body gettingout?
Is our body interacting with it?
How is it interacting?
Is it a chemical reaction?
What type of plastic it is?
Now, I think it's important toknow that there are different
types of plastic out there.
When you use the term plastic,it encompasses a number of

(10:56):
different, I'll say, types ofmaterials.
Are they all the same materials?
Are they all materials reactingthe same way or being eliminated
the same way?
Do some eliminate materials?
in a different way than others,or some have any different
effect than others?
Are you able to differentiatethose, or what we call speciate

(11:17):
them?
That's something that's gonnaneed to be determined.
Like the health effects, if anyat all are gonna have to be
determined.
What are the health effectsbeyond just petri dishes?
What are the data showing us?
We may have exposure, but whatare the exposures Is it just

(11:38):
something that's going to exist?
Where are the exposures comingfrom?
There's some that theorize thatmaybe they come from medical
devices that are implanted.
Some I saw that said, hey, maybethey use some stents that are in
the place within the body.
Maybe that's the source of themicroplastics.
There's some I saw discussingneedles when you're doing an

(11:59):
injection.
They're finding it in the body.
There may be plastic that comesfrom the needle.
I think that's all possible.
things that need to be evaluatedand determined as research
progresses.
I'm not sure if the research isthere yet on what the actual
human risk is.
We see that there are data thatestablishes exposure.

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What is the risk, if any at all?
So far, the studies that havebeen published published that I
review within, I'll say, thelast few months or the early
months of 2025, as I sit heretoday recording this, don't go
so far as to establish humanrisk or adverse health effects

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from exposure.
Are we going to get there?
We may.
Are we going to do anything tolimit the exposure to these
microplastics?
Perhaps there's another podcastI gave recently that discussed
the know what's in your productbefore someone tells you what's
in there.

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Are manufacturers going to startlooking for the presence of
microplastics, determining whatcauses them to occur, mitigating
them?
It goes with the thought of arethere benefits outweighing the
cost of microplastics?
Is the exposure doing anythingharmful?

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Is it just the presence of itand our bodies getting rid of
it?
These are answers that we'regoing to have to go through.
There's been some studies thathave looked at manufacturing,
people in the manufacturingrealm of plastics to see what
their exposures are.
And those are hard, too, becauseplastic is everywhere, right?

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Think about how many things youinteract with on a daily basis
that are plastic.
Right now, my keyboard, mymouse, my chair, plenty of
things in my truck, plenty ofthings within the house, within
the bathroom.
I got plastic containers that Itake mouthwash out of.
I got plastic tubes that containtoothpaste.
I use a plastic toothbrush.

(14:13):
What are the sources of themicroplastics?
Are we able to do a study that'sgoing to actually reflect
microplastics?
where the source of thosemicroplastics are.
Just sit down and think, make alist of things that you could
think of every day from productsthat you're using and where
microplastics come from.
How are you going to changethat?

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Is it worth changing?
These are all questions that wehave to ask.
I'd love to hear your thoughtson this.
Have you asked some questions,bring up some things that you've
maybe thought about, but there'san increase over the last 20 or
30 years of using more and moreplastic products Are these
plastics accumulating from thatuse?

(14:55):
Can we see a trend?
I think I mentioned in anotherpodcast of, hey, maybe years
ago, we couldn't even at alaboratory level detect these
types of materials.
But now our laboratoryinstrumentation is so we're
seeing lower and lower levelsand we can actually see these
things, whereas before wecouldn't.

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So are we able to see a trend inuse of these products, a use of
a particular plastic?
There's a lot of questions here,and it's going to take some time
to get the answers.
And I think that dedicating sometime to answering these
questions is going to beimportant.
So if you have any comments orquestions, I'd love to hear from
you.
Again, try our new website withthe comment feature.

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Let's turn it on and see if youhave any other thoughts or just
a different viewpoint on this.
I appreciate you joining us ontoday's episode of the Exposure
Scientist podcast, and I hopeto.
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