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SPEAKER_02 (00:14):
The Farmer's
Greatest Asset Podcast.
We believe the Farm's GreatestAsset is the Farmer.
Their knowledge, experience,mind, and health.
SPEAKER_03 (00:37):
Welcome to the
podcast.
I'm Jesse.
SPEAKER_00 (00:40):
And I'm Dr.
Leah.
SPEAKER_03 (00:42):
Well, good morning,
good afternoon, good evening.
Whenever you're listening to thepodcast, I guess.
This week I had a follow-upappointment with my hip doctor.
Had a good report there, so wethought we'd report to you guys
a little bit with um about myinjury and my recovery and stuff
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like that.
SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
Well, it's been
almost two years since your hip
replacement.
Almost two and a half yearssince the accident.
And it's kind of amazing to melike how fast it goes.
Like I can't believe it's beenthat long already.
But on the other side of that,also kind of like how slow it
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can go with recovery.
SPEAKER_03 (01:30):
Right.
Because it has been two and ahalf years and I'm still
recovering.
SPEAKER_00 (01:35):
Yeah.
It takes a long time to getstronger, build those muscles
back after you haven't usedthem.
How does has that beendiscouraging to you?
First of all, like recap peopleon kind of what happened where
we are right now.
SPEAKER_03 (01:53):
In July of 23, I got
caught in a livestock trailer
with fat cattle.
SPEAKER_00 (01:59):
At our county fair.
SPEAKER_03 (02:00):
At the county fair.
It was not show cattle, it wasopen fat cattle that I was
unloading of my own.
And the door popped open.
So I got trapped between thewall of the trailer and the cut
gate and had a pretty serious uhhip fracture and dislocation and
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a left wrist fracture anddislocation.
SPEAKER_00 (02:27):
And hand.
SPEAKER_03 (02:28):
And hand.
SPEAKER_00 (02:29):
The hand was pretty
gnarly as well.
SPEAKER_03 (02:32):
Right.
So to spare you all the details,it was pretty rough.
SPEAKER_00 (02:37):
So underwent the
initial surgeries, the hand
healed well.
Um still have limited range ofmotion on the wrist.
Right.
Because those bones had theywere separated and had to get
brought back together.
SPEAKER_03 (02:51):
I still have some
carpal bones sewn together.
SPEAKER_00 (02:53):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (02:54):
So my range of
motion on my left hand is
limited, but it still works.
SPEAKER_00 (02:59):
And through that
fall, although you couldn't
walk, we got you into thecombine, and you had to utilize
that wrist repetitively whilecombining, which was very good
for you mentally to get outthere.
SPEAKER_03 (03:16):
Well, being in the
combine itself was the best
therapy I could have had, Ialways say, because um it got me
out of the house and it made mefeel useful.
Because that feeling ofuselessness was pretty hard.
SPEAKER_00 (03:35):
How long do you
think you had that that feeling?
SPEAKER_03 (03:39):
Well, it was that
fall that it started to go away
because I got out there.
SPEAKER_00 (03:44):
Right.
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Prior to that, all I
could do was sit in a chair or
somebody drive me around.
Um and even that fall, it was Ikind of pushed the limits into
me driving.
I was still non-weight bearing,so it meant I had a walker.
SPEAKER_00 (04:05):
And it was your
right hip, left wrist.
SPEAKER_03 (04:10):
So I'd have to pull
the truck up as close as I
could, get the walker out.
Somebody'd have to get thewalker off the back of my pickup
so I could get to the side ofthe combine.
We put a lift on it so I couldget to the lift.
And then once I was in thecombine, I was in the combine
for the day.
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So once I could get to thecombine, I felt pretty good.
I didn't drink anything all daybecause I didn't want to have to
get up and pee.
Then it kind of all would kindof come back again in the
evening because then I'd have toget out, go down the lift.
Somebody'd have to get my walkerand help me get to the truck.
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But it was those feelings wereall going away slowly because I
was able to get in the combineand I was able to shouldn't have
been driving, but I was able todrive.
So um, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:12):
One the big reason
why we had to wait the six
months was because five weekspost-operatively you had gotten
blood clots in your lungs.
So they had to anticoagulateyou, and then they had to kind
of wait for that, as well asanytime you have a surgery, you
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want to wait a good six monthsto decrease the inflammation
before you do another surgery,ideally.
SPEAKER_03 (05:38):
So we were hoping
the acetabulum would heal a
little bit too.
SPEAKER_00 (05:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (05:43):
Uh so when I had the
hip fracture, he had to try to
replace the acetabulum, which isthe socket of the ball and
socket joint, because it wasannihilated.
So instead of working with acup, um, he had to put that cup
back together and it it didn'theal.
There were plates and screws inthere.
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So he was I think he was hopingthat would heal a little bit
more.
SPEAKER_01 (06:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (06:11):
Um and he ended up
having to do a lot of bone
grafting and uh used up all ofthe revision parts for a total
hip replacement.
Uh but during that six months,then I got avascular necrosis of
the femoral head.
So the bone died.
And if you could see the MRIs,you could see where the hardware
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that he put in there to replacethe socket was rubbing on the
femoral head, the ball of thesocket.
Um just kind of wore a grooveinto it, had a broken screw in
there.
SPEAKER_00 (06:46):
Yeah, that's a lot
of of technical things that a
lot of people probably won'tunderstand.
But um there's a lot going on.
There was a lot going on.
There's a lot of hardware in thehip that was evident on the
x-rays that we saw on Monday.
You didn't walk for nine months.
Even being in a hospital bed fora couple of weeks, you will have
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a lot of atrophy of the muscle.
And um, so that nine months, allof the muscle in that leg went
away.
And there were other muscles inyour back and lower back and in
the other hip that had tocompensate for all of that lack
of use for you to hold yourselfupright.
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So it has been a process ofrebuilding those muscles and
getting you to stand upright orproperly for your body and also
to start in your walking.
SPEAKER_03 (07:45):
So, still two and a
half years after I got hurt, I
still I still get wore out inthe evenings.
So then I end up putting all ofmy weight on my left hip.
So I'm starting to feel a littlebit in the the left hip from
overcompensating and walking,not with a normal gait.
SPEAKER_00 (08:09):
Because even in in
the office, there was still
limping going on.
And the reason that we'resharing a lot of this is because
you know, there are young menand older men, farmers
especially, that get injuries,and you just want it all fixed
right away, and you want it tobe like it was.
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And unfortunately, your hip isnever going to be like it was
before.
There's no surgeon that can do abetter job than the original
creator.
So it's learning how to adjustand work with what we have and
just figure out your new normal.
And and that has been not onlyfor you, but for me as well,
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living this life with you.
And because there was an abruptchange and it was, you know,
initially it was just all abouttrying to get you comfortable
and healing you because you werevery affected initially, and and
then kind of dealing with thepain and having to us having to
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relearn our behaviors and habitsaround caring for you.
Um even just like things likeyou had to have somebody help
you put your socks on, you hadto, you know, you couldn't carry
even a cup of coffee.
Like, so there were a lot ofthings initially that we had to
change, and then you startedtaking those roles back, but
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there are still limitations, andit's sometimes hard to live with
those, especially as a man.
SPEAKER_03 (09:58):
It was at the point
where I couldn't even cut my
fingernails or some stuff likethat.
SPEAKER_00 (10:05):
And I couldn't do it
right.
It is really hard to cut thefingernails into another person.
Even as a surgeon.
SPEAKER_03 (10:16):
Yeah, it was it was
an experience.
So at that point, it happened atthe county fair, and Henry had
the chance to show three weekslater in uh the final drive,
which is a show where championsand reserve champions and stuff
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can come back and then um showagainst each other, against
other counties, and at thatpoint somebody asked him asked
me how I was doing because Iwilled myself to go, and I said
if I can go through this painand my children never have to go
through this pain, uh thatthat's what I'll do.
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Because it was brutal.
But I was there.
SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
I we hauled uh a
golf cart there to go to that
show, and your walker, and likethere was a lot of paraphernalia
and a wheelchair, and a chairfor you to sit in.
SPEAKER_03 (11:16):
That yeah, it was so
then a couple weeks and a half
later, Henry had the opportunityto show in the Governor's
Charity Steer Show at the IowaState Fair, and we were so
looking forward to that all yearlong, and I willed myself to go
to that.
SPEAKER_00 (11:35):
It was a wonderful
experience.
SPEAKER_03 (11:37):
I gotta go, right?
It was awesome.
The whole Governor's CharitySteer Show experience is
amazing.
So we can back up a little bit.
I have missed one Iowa StateFair since I was probably four
years old.
So it's just kind of our thingto go to the Iowa State Fair,
and we have our kids have shownthere also, but then to get a
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show in that show, I wasn'tgonna miss it.
Had somebody help Henry take thecalf up and all the equipment,
and we loaded the car up withall my equipment, my equipment,
and mom and dad come with theirpickup and thank God for
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scooters.
SPEAKER_00 (12:19):
Like that thank God
for that scooter that could help
you get around because it tookfor you just to go out in the
fair, like two of us had to bewalking in front of you to block
the people because you had youryou had to keep your legs
straight.
SPEAKER_03 (12:37):
So I didn't I was
never in any brace for my leg or
my hip.
So you really didn't know thatmy hip was jacked up.
I was in a brace for my wrist.
Um, but beyond that, and uhbecause I willed myself to go to
that thing, I probably lookedhalfway normal riding around in
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the scooter, but you guys wouldhave to run roadblock for my
leg, so nobody'd hit my leg, andthat's when I come home after
that with blood clots.
SPEAKER_00 (13:08):
Well, I think that
it was just too much for your
body too soon.
Not that you sh not that Ididn't want you to go, but I
think it was just a lot, andyour body needed to heal.
We we pushed it too much, Ithink.
SPEAKER_03 (13:23):
Probably.
SPEAKER_00 (13:25):
And then got the
blood clots, and so we had all
of that recovery time.
You you and Henry both gotreally sick after the fair.
We all did.
It was kind of like a I think abig, huge, stressful thing.
Like we kind of got throughgoing to the state fair, and it
was kind of it was like afterthe holidays when you get
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together and you have all thisstuff going on at one time, and
then you all crash and get sick.
SPEAKER_03 (13:53):
It was totally let's
power through, let's get there,
let's will ourselves to getthere, and then so what I'm
hearing from you is it was itwas a very humbling experience.
It was all of it.
Even going into fall, normallyin the combine, I'm the one that
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runs the combine.
I would go out to the combine inthe mornings and say, I'll just
do it myself.
I can get it ready, I'll serviceit, you know, on the beanhead,
I'll change the guards and thesickles, and because I can do it
faster than anybody else, soI'll just do it.
Henry at the time was 15, and hewould come along with me prior
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to that, but um, and maybe help,but it was always I would just
do it.
So that was one blessing indisguise, and that I had to
teach him so he could learn thecombine, and it was teaching me
to slow down, I guess.
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Teach him.
But it's humbling when you can'tdo it.
You just have to sit there inyour pickup and hope that he
does it right.
Hope that whoever does it right,because you can't do it.
SPEAKER_00 (15:15):
How did you mentally
get through that time?
SPEAKER_03 (15:20):
I didn't.
I struggled.
Because we even had fat cattleto sell.
And normally the way I have ourloading area set up, I could
load cattle by myself.
And uh we had two potloads ofcattle that had to go out there
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shortly after that, and sat inthe truck and watched somebody
else set up for me and try toload the cattle, and I could
remember sitting in the truckjust screaming.
One because I couldn't do it,mainly that was why I was
screaming, but um I thought theywere doing it wrong.
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They weren't doing it my way.
SPEAKER_00 (16:09):
Um because you had
always just taken care of things
and had them just come and help.
It had never been a situationwhere you were not involved.
Right?
SPEAKER_03 (16:23):
And it was somebody
fully capable of handling
cattle.
I mean, he had he was a guy thatwas working for us and he has
his own cattle, and but Icouldn't do it.
That was hard.
That was hard sitting therewatch him set everything up and
load my cattle because Icouldn't do it.
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So I don't know how I handle it,I don't think I handled it at
all.
It was bad.
SPEAKER_00 (16:54):
In looking back at
it, over time, you having to
basically step away from yourfarm and allow other people to
do the work that you had beendoing, all of the work.
Like you because you couldn't doit.
It was a process making you andI both aware that we can't be
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the only ones doing theday-to-day stuff.
Like that is we definitelylearned the value of a team and
the importance of a team.
And it can't just be on yourshoulders.
SPEAKER_03 (17:37):
We learned the hard
way that even though we always
had had an employee or a coupleor three employees, I was still
there basically.
They were just kind of therehelping me.
It wasn't they were doing thetask for the business.
SPEAKER_00 (17:59):
So that has shifted.
SPEAKER_03 (18:02):
So I learned that
the hard way that they I don't
hire employees, so I can do thework and they can be there with
me.
We hire employees so they canaccomplish tasks while we run
the business and do otherimportant tasks.
SPEAKER_00 (18:21):
More like working on
the business, not just in the
business.
And I think that you and I stillboth kind of struggle with that.
SPEAKER_03 (18:33):
I do.
And I I don't know, I take pridein working on the farm and doing
those jobs.
And so it's hard to give up theresponsibility of some of that
stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (18:46):
Well, because when
it's when you're working on the
business, um the busy work feelsgood, right?
It's not all the big stuff.
Not all the planning andfinancing, finances and it's
those quote unquote easy tasks.
SPEAKER_03 (19:07):
They're just
automatic and you can just do
them and the productivity is achecklist, right?
SPEAKER_00 (19:14):
So there's
something.
Oh, I got that done.
It's like me and mowing grass.
Like I really I enjoy mowinggrass because in the you know,
it's something that anybody cando, and I have a hard time
letting it go.
But when I do it, it and it'sdone, it looks nice, and I
accomplish something.
Um, sometimes when you'reworking on the business, it's
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just mundane.
SPEAKER_03 (19:40):
It's avoiding doing
the hard things, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:43):
Yep.
The things that take more fromus and have more shadow work
that needs to be dealt with.
And so that is that is somethingthat has been a big shift.
But allowing our team to stepinto the roles that they are
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fully capable of doing and usnot hold them back.
Um because it's been funwatching our I I don't want to
call them employees, our teammembers.
It's been fun watching themblossom into you know becoming
um you know a teammate part ofthe team and not just somebody
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who shows up and clocks in.
Definitely s makes you see themdifferently and makes you
appreciate them more.
Also the vulnerability of notbeing able to do it physically
and having to allow someone todo that.
And I think it just took timefor you to grow to a place that
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you felt comfortable with that.
And maybe you still don't feelcomfortable with it.
SPEAKER_03 (20:57):
Well I'm getting
better getting better.
SPEAKER_00 (21:03):
So if if anyone out
there is listening and you have
had to go through anything likethis or you're in the middle of
this kind of not where you wantto be physically or if you've
been limited to what you can doif you had to have a hip
replacement or if you know youhad a small injury or a large
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injury on your farm, realizethat growing through it is it
just takes time.
SPEAKER_03 (21:32):
A lot of time.
And it's been two and a halfyears.
SPEAKER_00 (21:35):
Yeah.
And we still have I mean westill have a ways to go um not
only with you physically butwith us moving forward and
recovering from everything thathappened from that.
SPEAKER_03 (21:47):
There was a lot of
sequele in the injury not just
the injury you know things thatyou don't even think about there
is a lot that happens on thefarm that uh is just in my head
that you had no idea I'll goback to having to sell cattle.
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You had no idea who to call tosell those cattle.
And by the grace of God I wasstill able to be here and talk
you through some of thosethings.
But I was physically just notable to do any of it.
That led us to creating a bookhelp the farm survive and thrive
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and pass on the legacy and passon the knowledge and experiences
that are all just in thefarmer's head.
And that's where the farmer'sgreatest asset come from that we
need to realize that the farmeris the greatest asset.
It's not all of your equipmentor all of your land those are
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huge assets but none of thatworks unless the farmer is
around so we created a book.
SPEAKER_00 (23:17):
So that led us to
create um the farmer's greatest
asset the workbook um and it isbasically the farmer's brain on
paper Jesse was able to comehome that day but had he not I
would have been completely lost.
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I didn't come home that day ifyou would have passed and had
had that tragedy been endeddifferently um I was involved in
I mean you and I talked aboutday-to-day operations so I was
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involved in the operation I Itake care of the bookkeeping
portion of the farm and also youand I talk through decision
making but I you had no idea whoto talk to or I don't know who
to call I don't if something'sbreaks down I don't know who the
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people are to reach out to youknow I I grew up on a farm but I
didn't help on the farm I wasmore in the house and took on
those roles and that was kind ofmy role in in our operation like
we made decisions on fertilizerand those types of things like
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we would talk through them but Ididn't know what would go on
what field everything wasplanted but I didn't know when
to spray fungicide.
I didn't know what to look for Inone of those things.
So creating the workbook was asmuch getting your brain on paper
but it's it's kind of aninsurance policy for the spouse
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as well.
I wouldn't have known what to doand our employees didn't make
any of those decisions either sothey wouldn't have known what to
do and we would have backpedaledsignificantly because then I
would have to go back to doingeverything that our co-op told
us to do or our chemical guytold us to do and we have been
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like creating our own which isthe wrong thing by the way don't
do what your salesman says youshould do well pluses and
minuses not that the salesmenthe salesmen are are there to
help um but you know you are incharge of of the health of your
soil just like you are in chargeof the health of your body so
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you no one knows your farm likeyou do.
Like no person knows a farm likethe farmer who goes in and puts
his blood sweat and tears and orher blood sweat and tears into
that soil um because it's morethan just or livestock.
Or livestock because it's morethan just you know what seed
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choice you put out there or whatfertilizer.
It's how you bring everythingtogether it's like making a
recipe of love for the soil.
And that's what farmers andranchers pour into their crop
and into their livestock.
unknown (26:35):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (26:37):
So we created the
workbook and it is very detailed
uh so should there be a massiveinjury and the farmer or rancher
can't make those decisions youhave basically a workbook to
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work by so it's aboutdocumenting the farm and putting
the farmer's brain on paper andpassing on the knowledge and
experiences that you've gainedand the failures and the wins
and there is there is nothinglike it on the market that we
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know of we have talked to someindividuals and they have even
said that that there is nothinglike this on the market and it's
really just about documentingthe farm in the farmer's brain.
SPEAKER_00 (27:37):
So it goes from key
contacts from your seed reps to
your to the guy who changes thetires on the tractor to your
cattle buyers so everything isin there you have there's space
that you can write down exactlyhow do you utilize those people
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when you call them all of theall there is room for you to
document everything that is inthe farmer or rancher's brain.
SPEAKER_03 (28:16):
So we're trying to
create some sort of system that
you can put on paper so somebodyelse can continue on the
operation there's a section onemergencies.
SPEAKER_00 (28:28):
So you know if you
would need to move the cattle
because something happened therewas a flooding in the in the
pasture or you know it it kindof has all those contingency
plans that you would know but Iwouldn't necessarily know what
to do or who to call um or evenhow to think about doing that.
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And just people that I would beable to lean on and trust in
those situations people that youwould go to that I know could
would come and help me.
SPEAKER_03 (29:04):
And that being said
thank God for good community
because we had neighbors show upand while I was in the hospital
neighbors brought some food forthe kids and um well a lot of
people offer help.
Yes there was a lot of peopleoffer help and that's that is
across all agriculture thatthere's always farmers that are
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just jump at the opportunityjust to help their neighbor and
you can write down who youshould call for help.
SPEAKER_00 (29:33):
Who do you trust to
you know come over and help that
kind of stuff well even as faras like these are the websites
that I go to these are my thisis my login information for that
website.
The PIN code to your phone younever know what know what you
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need to get off of thereespecially pictures right so
those are important things thatyou need to be able to get onto
somebody's phone to grab and andhave those types of memories
from as well so there's asection in it in the book for
that as well as the legacyplanning.
SPEAKER_03 (30:13):
So it's not a legacy
plan but it's more about
sparking the conversation andit's a place for you to start
writing it down to think aboutit.
It could be the legacy plan theestate plan though the secession
plan if you talk to a lawyerthey're gonna say it needs to be
done by a lawyer but at leastit's a place to start writing
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that stuff down and what youwant to happen because for
whatever reason as farmers wedon't talk about that kind of
stuff and we need to but uh it'sit's a place to start that kind
of stuff.
And also where you keep thosethings if you have an actual
secession plan estate plan youknow all those things if they're
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filed away somewhere you know inthe safe or something like that
it's this is a place to have itwhere it is located.
SPEAKER_00 (31:14):
The the book has
there's so much information um
that is housed in your brain andthis is a place to put it all
together.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (31:24):
Outside of your mind
and it so it's a nice looking
book it's a leather hardcoverbook that could sit you know on
your office desk if you want itto it could look nice on the the
bookshelf I believe and I knowthat if you write things down
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they are four times more likelyto happen.
It's better to have thingswritten down you know
handwritten.
And not that to say havingthings in your phone and your
computer are bad but having ithandwritten is more likely to
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happen.
SPEAKER_00 (32:12):
Going through the
book with your significant other
I think is an important thing aswell to make you sit down
together and go through whatneed what would need to be done.
Right.
And think through those thingstogether.
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This is a book that every farmand ranch needs.
And whether it's our book or youjust start the conversation on
your own uh it's important inthe agricultural community to
have this knowledge documentedit is the true legacy of the
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farm there's so much knowledgethat's passed from father to son
or father to daughter or motherto daughter that is not
documented that can get lost.
And this is a way to documentthat true legacy not just the
land but the actual knowledgethat's built generationally so
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I'm gonna come back and it mayseem archaic but having it
written down is more effectivethan having it in your phone or
your computer.
SPEAKER_03 (33:26):
Not that you
shouldn't do that and have those
there but having it written downand in a safe place whether it
be on your office bookshelf oron your office desk and people
should know that you have thebook because there's a place for
those passwords and if they needit then they could go find those
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passwords to get into yourcomputer because if it's in your
computer nobody knows thepassword to your computer or to
your email.
SPEAKER_00 (33:57):
So if if I need to
go get reports off of for us
John Deere operations like Ineed to be able to have the
password to get in there orreset your password or so all of
that information is veryimportant to get out of just
someone's head so the book isavailable on our website uh the
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farmersgreatest asset dot com itis the workbook and if you have
any interest in this if this issomething like oh my goodness I
need this for my farm or I'mgoing to buy this for my dad
just just do it.
Just purchase the book get itsent to you and as soon as you
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get it start writing in it.
It's very valuable information.
You never know when an emergencycan happen to you.
SPEAKER_03 (34:51):
It's like they say
about insurance it's one of
those things that you hope younever need but every farm and
ranch needs the knowledge andexperience and memories and
those things to be passed on.
So that's why we say take careof yourself because if you're
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not here to operate your farmthe farm doesn't operate this
book is a$150 book to help yourlegacy and your farm succeed
it's a really cheap insurancepolicy.
SPEAKER_00 (35:34):
I don't know any
insurance that costs$150 So this
is just a small little componentof you know what we want to do
here with at the Farmer'sGreatest Asset.
You know it's part health partknowledge part education but
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definitely a lot in legacy andthis is how you can document and
get it on paper to move yourlegacy forward we just don't
want you to have to learn thehard way like we did like I said
if I could go through this painso my kids don't have to we are
just trying to help you getthrough it easier so you don't
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have to struggle.
The workbook is available againon the farmersgreatest asset dot
com and we want to thank you allfor listening today.
SPEAKER_03 (36:30):
And remember it is a
good day.
SPEAKER_00 (36:34):
To have a great day
bye