The Flat Bill Investor

At 8:30 one morning Brett Chell was the CEO of a company he'd spent thirteen years and $53 million building. By 9 he'd been told not to go back to his house, not to speak to a single employee, phone off, computer off. They towed his Escalade. His visa was attached to the job. He walked out of downtown Houston with a backpack.

Brett dropped out of high school and spent eight years on oil rigs. What he also saw was a probl...

One day from the summit of K2 — three weeks on the mountain, a teammate just killed in an avalanche — Jenn Drummond turned around and walked down.

"I don't want to teach my kids peaks over people." That decision cost her the entire climb: the money, the training, the window, all of it back to zero, on a mountain she says kills a quarter of the people who attempt it. She went back and finished it.

Jenn Drummond holds two w...

Jason Haugen has bought and sold more companies than most people will work for.

He grew up watching his parents run about forty of them — they helped start Costa Vida and owned the Utah franchises, and built a few hundred million dollars of commercial real estate in South Ogden. At 18 he went looking for his own identity in network marketing. By 2018 he and his dad had bought an RV dealership doing $12 million a year and makin...

After 36 episodes of interviewing other people, Josh and Zach turned the mics on each other. What we're building, what we'd do differently, what we're reading, and what's actually happening at home.

Josh gets into why he won't use the word "lost" — in sports or in business — and the story behind the hardest call he's had to make at ERC and the surprising aftermath.

Zach walks through two and a half years running S2 Pickle...

He made $20M by 21. Went bankrupt twice. Now sells one door every 6 minutes.

Jeremy Barker's story is one of the wildest we've had on the pod:

→ Created the metal frames used in Tuff Sheds — as a teenager

→ Was doing $20M/year top line by age 21 supplying Home Depot

→ Partied like a 21-year-old with $20M. Went bankrupt.

→ 2008 crash hit. Went bankrupt AGAIN.

→ Became a firefighter at Roy City. $762 every 2 weeks. House payment was ...

In this powerful episode of the Flat Bill Investors Podcast, we sit down with Haysam Sakar, who went from being a stateless refugee in Egypt to a successful entrepreneur in the U.S.—building businesses in both the automotive and solar energy industries.

Haysam shares his story of navigating citizenship challenges, making bold career pivots, and leaning into moments of serendipity that changed his life forever. From wai...

In this inspiring episode, real estate investor Christion Sadler opens up about his transformation from a troubled youth into a successful entrepreneur and innovator in the real estate industry.

Raised by a single mother in a low-income household, Christion discovered early on that real estate ownership was the key to wealth and freedom. Instead of becoming a traditional realtor, he dove straight into investing, fueled by a ...

In this episode of the Flat Bill Investors podcast, Joshua Lindsey—business broker and mergers & acquisitions expert—shares his powerful journey from financial hardship to successful business ownership. Learn how early money struggles shaped his path, how he overcame consumer debt, and why understanding EBITDA is critical in evaluating business value.

Joshua breaks down the real-world lessons of M&A, busi...

We sit down with Bryan Hurd—a devoted husband, father, and real estate professional—to dive deep into the journey of self-discovery, personal growth, and the Evolution Project: a movement empowering men to live with greater intention and connection.

🌱 Topics Covered:

The power of presence in personal and professional life

Navigating fatherhood and marriage with authenticity

How entrepreneurs...

Can you go from engineer to real estate investor—and make it work? Jaiden Olsen did.
In this episode of the Flat Bill Investors Podcast, we sit down with Jaiden Olsen, a former engineer who made a bold leap into real estate investing. From wholesaling an 18-unit property and pocketing $100K, to integrating AI into his engineering business, Jaiden shares a journey full of risk, resilience, and rewards.

💡 In this epi...

In this episode of the Flat Bill Investors, we chat with Raynei Villarreal, a self-made entrepreneur. From humble beginnings and having the American dream of owning his own business, he took his passion for sneakers and turned it into a custom footwear business. His vision and relentless desire to hustle and succeed turned him into an entrepreneur. But behind that lies a man who is not only down-to-earth, but full of authenticity a...

In a world where personal stories often inspire others, Maeli Nelson's journey stands out as a testament to resilience and determination. Growing up in a restrictive religious environment, Maeli faced significant challenges, including a lack of education and personal freedom. However, her experiences shaped her into a successful entrepreneur and sales expert. In this episode, we will explore Maeli's background, her path to success,...

In this episode of the Flat Bill Investors Podcast, Tyson Allred, a multifaceted individual with a rich background in education, family life, and entrepreneurship, shares his journey from personal struggles to building a successful business, emphasizing the importance of mental health, empathy, and community support. He discusses his experiences with food stamps, the impact of his family, and the significance of open communication ...

In this episode of the Flat Bill Investors podcast, Kurt Marker shares his journey from finance to becoming a private pilot and real estate investor. He discusses the challenges of breaking into the aviation industry, the importance of building relationships with high-net-worth clients, and his passion for real estate investment. Kurt emphasizes the value of time and freedom over money, highlighting how his experiences have shaped ...