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Hi there and welcome to the guns
podcast, us one of the world's (00:07):
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biggest gun talk programs. (00:11):
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Thanks for joining us here as we
talk about interesting stuff in (00:13):
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the world of shooting. (00:16):
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Of course, I'm your host, Brent
Weed, and I'm joined by my (00:17):
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co-host Roy Huntington. (00:20):
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And we're going to cover some
good stuff today. (00:21):
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So Roy, let's get started. (00:24):
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Uh, how's it going? (00:26):
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I'm just I want to get started. (00:29):
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Okay. (00:33):
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Because we have some stuff to
say today. (00:34):
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We do, we do. (00:38):
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And, uh, this is a topic that
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It's kind of a combination
topic. (00:43):
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And I think it's a important
thing to talk about. (00:45):
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And we're going to talk about
when does gear stop mattering? (00:48):
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And this is kind of a theme we (00:51):
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have talked about a lot here on (00:53):
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this program. (00:55):
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But I thought let's drill down
specifically into it today. (00:56):
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And the topic itself. (01:00):
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What I'm saying here is, as we
have. (01:02):
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If you've watched any of our (01:05):
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previous episodes, is at some (01:06):
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point we all upgrade our gear (01:08):
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and we all have the mistaken (01:11):
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belief. (01:12):
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Even at my age and Roy's age, (01:13):
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where we think, you know, if I (01:15):
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just buy that holster, that (01:16):
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optic, that scope, that master (01:18):
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blaster five thousand, suddenly (01:22):
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I will be Robbie Latham and, uh, (01:24):
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Lena Misclick. (01:27):
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And it never works out that way. (01:28):
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So we're going to kind of (01:30):
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analyze where it falls on the (01:31):
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sweet spot and, uh, kind of our, (01:34):
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our take on what we've seen over (01:37):
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many, many decades of, of (01:39):
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shooting. (01:41):
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So Roy, uh, gear does matter,
but it doesn't matter that much. (01:42):
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Is that a about as an ambiguous (01:46):
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statement as I could possibly (01:48):
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make? (01:49):
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I know you're exactly right. (01:51):
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I mean, you know, if you gave I
don't know if you gave the (01:53):
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average decent shooter. (01:57):
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I know even if they have higher (01:58):
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end equipment, if you gave them (02:00):
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a box stock, Glock pistol or a (02:02):
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box stock, you fill in the (02:05):
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blank. (02:08):
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Maybe even like a high point. (02:08):
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And you had them shoot the
weekend match. (02:11):
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I bet you they would do really
well. (02:13):
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Yeah. (02:15):
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You know, I mean, I a few (02:15):
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percentage points below maybe (02:18):
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what they normally would have (02:19):
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scored, you know, but if you (02:21):
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take another shooter who's a (02:22):
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beginning shooter, uh, and you (02:24):
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give him that competitor's high (02:26):
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end fancy ass double stack, red (02:28):
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dot scoped, you know, pistol, (02:30):
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the the beginning shooter is not (02:32):
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going to shoot really any (02:34):
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better. (02:36):
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You know, I mean, they're still
gonna miss they're still going (02:37):
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to fumble their reloads. (02:39):
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They're still going to do all
that kind of stuff. (02:40):
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So I mean, I equate it to tool
usage. (02:42):
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I think virtually everyone
watching or listening to this is (02:45):
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a tool user. (02:49):
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It's just because that's what we
do, right? (02:50):
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You know, and I first started (02:52):
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doing lathe work and machine (02:55):
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work. (02:57):
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Oh, I know, forty years ago. (02:58):
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Right. (02:59):
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Well, I started with a little (03:00):
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tiny unimat lathe, and I had no (03:01):
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idea what I was doing, and I (03:03):
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messed everything up as I (03:04):
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learned it. (03:07):
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I began to understand how the (03:08):
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machine works better, and my (03:09):
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hand eye coordination skills got (03:11):
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better. (03:13):
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And then I realized the machine
was limiting what I wanted to do (03:13):
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and could do. (03:18):
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So I bought a bigger, better
one, right? (03:19):
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And at first I couldn't really (03:21):
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use the machine to its full (03:24):
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ability. (03:25):
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Uh, you know, and I was, I was (03:26):
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wasting the machines time kind (03:28):
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of, you know, I would turn it (03:30):
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on. (03:32):
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You could hear it groan and say,
oh, great. (03:32):
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He's what's he gonna mess up
this time? (03:34):
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You know, I'll get one of those
fingers if I can. (03:36):
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I know that's the thing. (03:39):
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And but yet, you know, twenty
five years goes by or something (03:40):
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and I, I, you reach a point
where you realize you're working (03:44):
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this machine at its limits, you
know, uh, and, and your skill (03:49):
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set is good enough that it's
like you want you want better. (03:54):
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Like now I can make use of it. (03:58):
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So a couple of years ago, I
bought a really, really nice (04:00):
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lathe and milling machine. (04:03):
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And it was so satisfying because
it was, it allowed me to do that (04:05):
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extra kind of like five percent. (04:10):
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You know, it's, it's, it's more
accurate. (04:13):
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It runs a little smoother. (04:16):
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It's more predictable. (04:17):
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It gives me, you know, (04:19):
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information I didn't have (04:20):
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before. (04:21):
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And shooting is exactly the same
way. (04:22):
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And I know it's like people (04:25):
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accuse us of beating this into (04:27):
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the dirt, but it's in the (04:29):
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comments constantly. (04:31):
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What gun should I buy? (04:32):
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I want to participate in weekend
matches. (04:34):
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And I don't know, this guy has a (04:36):
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five thousand dollar nineteen (04:39):
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eleven. (04:40):
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Do I need to have that in order
to compete? (04:41):
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You know, you've heard him. (04:43):
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You got all the same comments
and questions that I do. (04:44):
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Uh, and then they almost don't
want to believe you when you say (04:47):
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that's absolutely true. (04:50):
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Yeah. (04:52):
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You really don't need to do
that. (04:52):
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Well, you know, the guy at the
gun store said that I, you know, (04:54):
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I, I would be shooting myself in
the foot, literally and (04:57):
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figuratively if I just bought an
entry level, you know, gun. (05:00):
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And it's like, you can't you I
mean, you can't explain that. (05:05):
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It's why I like to teach women
because when women are women, (05:08):
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often it's really interesting. (05:11):
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We're getting more and more
women watch our videos and, and (05:12):
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listen to the YouTube, uh, you
know, our stuff here. (05:15):
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And, but most of them are a
little older. (05:18):
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And when they ask a question (05:22):
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like, hey, I want to go squirrel (05:24):
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hunting. (05:26):
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And I'm not sure which gun I
should buy. (05:26):
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And if I tell them, oh, well, (05:29):
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just go get yourself this simple (05:30):
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entry level savage Bolt action (05:33):
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twenty two with an affordable (05:35):
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scope. (05:36):
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They go like this. (05:37):
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They go, oh, okay, yeah. (05:38):
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And then they go do it. (05:42):
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And then usually a month or two (05:43):
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later, I get a comment back (05:44):
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saying, wow, Roy, you were (05:46):
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exactly right. (05:47):
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It's so interesting. (05:48):
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I'm learning how to use it now. (05:49):
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And I can see someday I may want
a better gun, right? (05:50):
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Yeah. (05:54):
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No. (05:55):
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If. Yeah, if we male egotistical
idiots would only just do the (05:55):
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same thing, we'd be all right. (05:59):
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Yeah. (06:01):
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Well, there was a point I wanted
to make before we get too much (06:02):
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further out of the gate. (06:04):
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And that is this is sort of kind
of directed at the new shooter, (06:05):
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but it applies to every single
solitary one of us. (06:10):
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And we've we've talked about
this before, that I still fall (06:13):
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prey to it. (06:16):
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I get a press release. (06:17):
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You know, we get, uh, fifty to
one hundred a day, both of us. (06:18):
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So anything and everything under (06:22):
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the sun is coming our way (06:24):
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saying, please, you know, try (06:25):
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this. (06:27):
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And and most of them would be (06:27):
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kind enough to at least send it (06:28):
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on a loan basis so we could try (06:30):
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it. (06:31):
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So you've got to think, okay, is (06:32):
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that something my audience (06:34):
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wants? (06:35):
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Is that something I'm interested
in? (06:35):
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And could I effectively test it
and get a meaningful way? (06:37):
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And I still fall prey to that,
that, oh, that's kind of cool. (06:41):
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And I've got little alarm bells
that go off because I think, (06:46):
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okay, is it really cool or is it
just new and unique? (06:50):
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And that's, that's the part that
I'm enjoying or, uh, considering (06:54):
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important as opposed to will it
solve my problem? (06:59):
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Which is truly the basic
question you need to be asking (07:02):
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of all of your gear and tools
and everything else. (07:05):
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Will this solve my problem
better? (07:08):
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Or at least as good as something (07:10):
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more expensive or less (07:11):
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expensive? (07:13):
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So don't when you hear us, we'll (07:14):
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talk a lot about, uh, newer (07:16):
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shooters, less experienced (07:18):
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shooters in this episode, but it (07:19):
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applies to every ding dang (07:21):
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single one of us that's in this (07:23):
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audience because, uh, especially (07:26):
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the guys, we all fall prey to (07:27):
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it. (07:28):
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And I gotta say, uh, we need to (07:28):
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have a mea culpa, uh, moment (07:30):
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here that it's kind of our fault (07:33):
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as members of the, the gun (07:35):
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press, the whole thing is (07:37):
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basically built on promoting new (07:39):
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product. (07:40):
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Um, and that's one of the things
that I do think Roy and I and (07:41):
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FMG publications, which we're
still part of, uh, have kind of (07:44):
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railed against that. (07:48):
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It's, it's the shooter, not the (07:49):
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gun or the gear or the holster (07:50):
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or whatever. (07:52):
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But, uh, you know, we don't (07:53):
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ignore new gear and we don't (07:54):
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ignore increases in technology, (07:56):
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but buying something just for (07:58):
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the sake of buying it and new, (08:00):
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uh, we've been pretty guilty of (08:02):
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that. (08:03):
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Uh, and it still goes on and I (08:04):
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frankly think it's getting (08:06):
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worse. (08:07):
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So, you know, as an educated
consumer, when you're reading (08:07):
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online gun mags, uh, especially
blogs and especially YouTubers, (08:11):
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it's, it's okay to get
information there, but, but be (08:16):
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educated and think, why are they
talking about this? (08:19):
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If they mention the product name
seventy two times in a four (08:22):
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minute video, that should be a
clue to thinking people. (08:26):
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So I've given you about fifteen (08:30):
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threads there, Roy, so I'll be (08:32):
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interested to see where you go (08:34):
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with it. (08:35):
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Well, one thing I think we do (08:37):
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and I know I demanded it excuse (08:38):
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me when I was editor of (08:41):
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Handgunner, is that we could (08:43):
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talk about all the new stuff, (08:44):
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because that's why they buy the (08:46):
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magazine. (08:47):
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That's why they tune into the
YouTube channel. (08:47):
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That's why where they want to
see what's new. (08:49):
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But it was always important that (08:52):
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the delivery wasn't, hey, here's (08:54):
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this cool new thing and you need (08:57):
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it, right? (08:59):
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The delivery was here's this
cool new thing. (09:00):
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It does this and this and this
and this. (09:03):
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Or if any of these features and
benefits are things that you (09:06):
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think might benefit you, well,
then here's one. (09:09):
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Yeah. (09:12):
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Right. (09:13):
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Uh, I mean, because it, I equate
it. (09:13):
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I'm going to go back to tool
use. (09:16):
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When I started woodworking
twenty years ago, I went out and (09:18):
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I bought all kinds of tools that
I didn't need. (09:20):
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And I thought I needed them
because you look at it and you (09:24):
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think, oh, that looks cool,
I'll, I'll be able to use that. (09:27):
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And then as my experience grew,
I realized that the only tools I (09:30):
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bought eventually were tools
that I actually needed to do the (09:35):
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job, you know? (09:39):
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So if I, if I was building a (09:41):
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table and I needed a special (09:42):
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router bit, I bought the special (09:44):
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router bit. (09:47):
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I didn't buy the fifty bit set
and which I had done before. (09:48):
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Sorry, Roy. (09:54):
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Guilty. (09:54):
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Oh, I know we all are. (09:56):
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I mean, I've got like, this one (09:57):
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hundred bit super big in a (09:59):
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wooden crate, you know, router (10:01):
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bit set that I bought twenty (10:03):
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years ago. (10:04):
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And I think I've used like maybe
eight of them. (10:05):
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Yeah. (10:09):
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All the time. (10:09):
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You know, those are the ones you
use all the time. (10:10):
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But shooting is exactly the same
way. (10:12):
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And I think if you, as you say,
just because they say, hey, (10:14):
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here's this really cool, neat
new thing, uh, they do tend to (10:17):
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want to make you get passionate
and excited and get that (10:21):
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endorphin dump and think that,
oh, I need that, you know, but, (10:26):
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and so what I caution people to
say to do is you bought your (10:29):
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basic entry level gun. (10:34):
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Now you've been practicing with
it. (10:35):
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You're learning how to use it. (10:37):
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You're beginning to hit the
target. (10:38):
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You haven't shot yourself in the
foot. (10:39):
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The the indoor range hasn't
banned you from shooting there. (10:42):
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So you're doing pretty good. (10:45):
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Yeah, we all know these people. (10:48):
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And yeah, now when you find
yourself, it's like, you know, (10:50):
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when I draw from my holster, I,
I wish I could get a better grip (10:56):
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on the gun, you know? (11:01):
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Okay. (11:03):
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Well, now then, let's look at
holsters. (11:04):
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You know, you don't just buy the (11:07):
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first holster that you see on (11:08):
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Amazon. (11:10):
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Yeah. (11:11):
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Now you know what you're looking
for, right? (11:12):
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So you look at reviews. (11:13):
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You look at what people say
about it. (11:15):
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Hey, this holster gives me a (11:17):
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much better grip than I ever had (11:19):
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before. (11:20):
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Right. (11:21):
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Okay. (11:21):
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Well that's good. (11:21):
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So now you're buying something
that actually improves on, uh, a (11:22):
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technique that you have that you
want improvement on. (11:30):
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And so let's say you're shooting
and you find yourself after a (11:32):
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little while that you're, the
sights are not working for you (11:35):
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as well as they could be
working, you know, maybe you (11:39):
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need bigger, bolder sights. (11:41):
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And so then you, so you go to
bigger, bolder sights. (11:43):
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I the perfect, uh, I can equate
this perfectly to something. (11:46):
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If anyone out there is a scuba (11:50):
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diver, I know you are, I am, I'm (11:52):
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sure there's a lot of people out (11:55):
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here. (11:57):
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Well, I vividly remember the and
I remember the instructor (11:57):
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because he was really funny. (12:01):
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He knew exactly what was going
to happen. (12:02):
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We're all on the edge of the
pool. (12:04):
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We're, you know, we're all
geared up. (12:06):
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We we've been told all the
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I just want you to go and go (12:15):
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under the water and clear your (12:18):
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noses and just sit there for a (12:19):
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minute. (12:21):
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And so. (12:21):
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So you do. (12:22):
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And what do you think? (12:24):
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You go, oh my God, I'm breathing
underwater. (12:25):
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Oh, yep. (12:28):
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Oh my God, oh my God. (12:29):
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And you look around and
everyone's got big wide eyes (12:31):
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behind their mask. (12:34):
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And bubbles are coming out in
big streams and everything. (12:35):
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Right? (12:38):
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You know, we've all been there. (12:38):
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So. And then after a couple
minutes, he goes down and taps (12:39):
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you on the shoulder and we come
up and he it goes, fun, huh? (12:43):
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It's like, yeah. (12:46):
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He said, all right, now you know
what to expect. (12:47):
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Now let's get down to business. (12:49):
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And so in a microcosm, the
shooting is the same way. (12:52):
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You know, it's like because
we've seen it. (12:57):
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A guy buys his first gun or he
rents a gun and they has real (13:00):
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bullets and he loads the
magazine, you know, and this is (13:04):
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not a video game now, right? (13:08):
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And he puts it into the gun and
racks the slide. (13:09):
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And it's like, oh my gosh, this,
you know, I'm breathing (13:12):
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underwater, you know, and and
then he pulls the gun up and (13:15):
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there's a guy holding his arm so
he doesn't shoot himself or the (13:19):
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wall and he pulls the trigger
and the gun recoils. (13:23):
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And he's like, oh my God, oh my
God, I'm shooting. (13:25):
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I'm shooting. (13:28):
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Right. (13:29):
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Okay. (13:29):
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Yeah. (13:29):
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Well, he should not go out
Monday and buy a five thousand (13:30):
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dollars nineteen eleven right? (13:34):
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Because he has absolutely no
idea what he needs or wants. (13:37):
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I was going to say my first
lesson in the pool. (13:40):
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And what do you do at the end of
the lesson? (13:44):
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You put away your gear, get
everything cleaned up, and then (13:46):
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you walk out through the shop. (13:48):
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I free these and I want to buy
that. (13:50):
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And what's the most expensive BC
and regulator and yeah, yeah, (13:52):
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charge card gets maxed out. (13:56):
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I bought diving gear that I (13:58):
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never used, you know, I mean, (14:00):
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I'll be honest with you, after (14:04):
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I, when I was quit diving on the (14:05):
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police department, I had this (14:07):
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like raggedy old wetsuit with (14:08):
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tears. (14:11):
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Yeah. (14:11):
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I had a soft white belt. (14:12):
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Remember those where you put
lead shot in it, right? (14:13):
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Yeah. (14:16):
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I had a soft white belt that I (14:16):
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had stitched up a half a dozen (14:17):
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times. (14:19):
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Yep. (14:20):
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You know, my BC was worn, my
mask was worn, you know, and I (14:20):
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could walk right through a
diving store and see all the (14:25):
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fancy stuff in the world. (14:28):
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And it didn't interest me at all
because what I had worked fine. (14:31):
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Yeah. (14:34):
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You know, and you know, you you
raise an interesting point. (14:35):
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I'm going sidebar here. (14:37):
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When we buy stuff and you go to
the range, you go to the dive (14:40):
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site or whatever. (14:44):
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At least with me, I always look (14:46):
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at the guy with the kind of gear (14:48):
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that's not in disrepair, but (14:49):
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it's obviously been really well (14:51):
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used. (14:52):
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And you know, they call it
salty. (14:53):
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Your fatigues are coated in salt
and worn. (14:54):
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And on one hand, I've got all
this shiny new stuff. (14:57):
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And to me that just screamed,
oh, he's a newbie, you know, he (14:59):
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doesn't know what he's doing. (15:03):
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But that guy. (15:04):
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And whether he knew what he was (15:05):
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doing, at least his gear was old (15:06):
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enough. (15:08):
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It looked like it was worn and
had been there, done that. (15:08):
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And you know the old saying he
had the t shirt and wore it out. (15:11):
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So it's funny. (15:14):
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Think about that before you you
plunk buy now and put down that (15:15):
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credit card that there's going
to come a moment where you're (15:19):
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going to go, oh, this is cool
and shiny and new, and then (15:22):
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you're going to go, oh, but it
doesn't look as experienced as (15:24):
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that guy in the next lane over. (15:27):
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Well, and it doesn't do what you (15:30):
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thought it was going to do (15:31):
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because you would think that, (15:32):
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oh, this is going to make me a (15:33):
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better shooter. (15:34):
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No. (15:35):
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Yeah. (15:36):
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Only you can make you a better
shooter. (15:36):
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Right. (15:39):
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And you become a better. (15:39):
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There's the crux of what we're
talking about right there. (15:40):
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You just said and, and, and only
you can learn what other tools (15:43):
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and equipment will help you to
hone that edge. (15:50):
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Yeah. (15:53):
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And the problem too, is that we
have to wrestle with that again, (15:53):
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back to the endorphin dump. (15:57):
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We all like to buy stuff. (15:59):
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You know, I, I have to say, the (16:01):
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older I get, the less interested (16:03):
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in that. (16:04):
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I mean, I can go to Harbor
Freight, walk around the entire (16:05):
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store and come out and maybe
have bought a bag of zip ties. (16:09):
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Yeah. (16:15):
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You know, I mean, there was a
time when I would like, I would (16:15):
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get heart palpitations, you
know, in your hands would shake. (16:19):
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Right. (16:22):
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And it's like, I really need
that purple jack or, you know, (16:23):
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and, uh, all that stuff. (16:26):
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So. Well, I've said that going
to the outdoor store or the gun (16:28):
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store, you know, there used to
be a time I would, I'm like you. (16:31):
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I would be like almost quivery
to go and I could add this and I (16:35):
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ought to buy that. (16:38):
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And now I walk through and it's
like, well, that's interesting, (16:39):
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but I don't need it. (16:41):
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I know, and you walk out with
nothing and it's like, did (16:42):
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something happen to me? (16:45):
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Or I guess I feel better about
it. (16:46):
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Well, you know what I do. (16:48):
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It's like if you go to like a
Cabela's or a Bass Pro or (16:49):
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something, those used to be just
I mean, the angels would sing (16:52):
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This is Nirvana, right? (16:55):
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I walked into the front door of (16:57):
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a Bass Pro and it's like, oh my (16:59):
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God. (17:01):
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Right. (17:01):
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Well, the mothership is only an
hour from you. (17:02):
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And I specifically drove there
just to walk into that store. (17:04):
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Oh it's true. (17:08):
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It's got the NRA museum. (17:08):
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It's got I mean, it's
unbelievable. (17:10):
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Even smells right in there. (17:12):
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You know, it's like leather and
gun oil and the. (17:14):
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I don't know what it is, but,
uh, I'm old enough now that I (17:17):
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look at things and I think, wow,
that's really cool. (17:22):
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I mean, God forbid I even do
this with guns now. (17:25):
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But I look at things and I
think, well, that's really cool. (17:28):
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And then I envision it sitting (17:31):
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in my closet, gathering dust, (17:34):
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gathering dust. (17:37):
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Or it's like, wow, that's a (17:38):
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really good looking jacket, you (17:40):
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know? (17:42):
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Yeah. (17:42):
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It's like, yes. (17:42):
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And then I would buy it and I
would be happy and I would go (17:44):
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home and wear it a couple times. (17:47):
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And then I would go in my closet
with my twenty five other really (17:49):
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cool jackets that I bought. (17:53):
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And so just, you know, try to
rein that in initially. (17:56):
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I mean, I think if, if somehow,
I'm sorry, manufacturers that (17:59):
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were saying these things, you
know, but I think in the long (18:03):
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run, it pays dividends because
you get people who then when (18:07):
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they buy your product, when they
really need it, and they put it (18:10):
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to use and it performs well,
well, then they're going to want (18:13):
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to buy more products from you. (18:16):
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But if somebody buys a five (18:19):
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hundred dollars red dot sight (18:20):
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from you, and they don't even (18:22):
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know how to put it on their gun, (18:24):
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much less use it to its best (18:25):
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ability, you know, well, then (18:28):
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they're going to be (18:29):
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dissatisfied. (18:30):
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They're going to think it's your
fault. (18:31):
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They're going to blame it on the
site. (18:32):
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They're going to blame it on, (18:34):
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you know, the guy who sold it to (18:34):
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him. (18:36):
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So yeah, the part I wanted to
get to in this is the actionable (18:37):
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intelligence part of the program
in the time we've got left. (18:42):
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So I think we've made that point
pretty clear. (18:45):
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And I think if you've watched us
at all, you kind of get where (18:47):
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we're coming from on this. (18:50):
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And hopefully we're making sense (18:51):
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from here on out, whether you're (18:53):
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a brand new shooter or a very (18:54):
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experienced shooter. (18:56):
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I want to talk about what is the
sweet spot because use red dots (18:58):
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as an example. (19:03):
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You can go on Amazon and get one
for less than fifty bucks. (19:04):
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Or you can buy, say, Trijicon. (19:07):
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I just happen to be wearing
their hat today. (19:10):
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Um, top quality stuff and uh,
vortex, very popular. (19:13):
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Loopholed. (19:17):
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I mean, I could go on and on. (19:17):
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So there's everything from fifty (19:19):
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dollars to probably the top end (19:21):
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eight, nine hundred thousand (19:24):
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dollars optics. (19:26):
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And there's no right or wrong
answer here. (19:28):
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But Roy, your philosophy on
where's that sweet spot for the (19:30):
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majority of folks? (19:33):
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Because, you know, like you
said, Harbor freight. (19:35):
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I've got I've got my own, uh,
cost benefit analysis that with (19:37):
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a tool, if I'm going to use it
one single time, I'll try to get (19:42):
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a harbor freight job. (19:44):
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But if I know I'm going to use (19:46):
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it for three weeks and I'm going (19:47):
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to build a new room, I'll (19:49):
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probably buy a better quality, (19:50):
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more mainstream name brand (19:52):
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thing. (19:54):
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But when we're talking about gun
stuff, whether guns or (19:54):
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accessories, how do you, uh,
make that kind of, uh, purchase (19:57):
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decision when you're looking at
the range of stuff? (20:02):
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Well, I've learned to, and it
takes time. (20:06):
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Uh, and it takes willpower. (20:08):
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So I have two rules. (20:10):
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The first rule is I want to buy
a new fill in the blank, right? (20:12):
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So I'll look online. (20:17):
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I'll go to the store, I'll
handle them how everything. (20:18):
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But I do not buy one that first
day. (20:23):
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In other words, don't. (20:28):
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Yeah. (20:30):
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Because you are going to learn
more. (20:30):
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You know, I mean just the act of (20:33):
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doing the research into looking (20:34):
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for what you think you want to (20:36):
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buy, you're going to learn a (20:37):
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lot. (20:39):
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Uh, and then as a matter of (20:39):
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fact, sometimes you do a one (20:41):
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eighty and you realize, you know (20:42):
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what? (20:43):
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Maybe I really don't need one of
those or I need one of these, (20:44):
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you know, so that's rule one. (20:49):
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The rule two is if you decide (20:51):
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for sure that you need to put a (20:55):
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red dot on your gun, don't go (20:57):
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cheap because you will regret it (21:01):
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instantly and you will waste (21:04):
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that eighty dollars or, you (21:06):
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know, one hundred dollars (21:08):
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because you're now going to have (21:09):
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to buy a three hundred and fifty (21:10):
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dollars one, which now costs you (21:12):
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four hundred and fifty dollars (21:14):
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because you just waste one (21:15):
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hundred dollars on the other (21:16):
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one. (21:17):
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Right. (21:18):
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And it's guns are the same way. (21:19):
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You know, you're going to say,
well, I'm, you know, I really (21:21):
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want a twenty two pistol. (21:23):
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And there's this like old rusty
something, something, and it's (21:24):
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only one hundred and ninety five
dollars and I'll buy that. (21:27):
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Don't stop. (21:30):
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Right. (21:31):
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Look at it. (21:32):
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Get that feeling out. (21:33):
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Go home. (21:35):
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Calm down. (21:36):
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You know, and now revisit that. (21:39):
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Maybe I should wait a month. (21:41):
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I'll have two hundred more
dollars I can spend. (21:43):
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And then you go back and you
find, oh, there's that. (21:46):
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Ruger twenty two forty five. (21:48):
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That's nice and clean. (21:49):
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You know, it's lightly used. (21:51):
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Maybe that's the one I should
buy. (21:52):
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But, you know, they said before
was it buy once, cry once. (21:53):
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Once. (21:57):
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Yep. (21:58):
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And I have never not known that
to be the case. (21:59):
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You know, it just. (22:03):
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And I think so shooting
accessories are the same thing. (22:04):
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Don't it's not. (22:07):
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Whoever has the most toys wins. (22:09):
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It's really not. (22:11):
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I mean, whoever has the most (22:12):
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toys I think is an idiot and (22:14):
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failed. (22:16):
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So. Wow, that's pretty plain. (22:17):
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No, but I mean, unless you're
using them all. (22:20):
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Yeah. (22:23):
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You know, I mean, if you're a (22:23):
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competition shooter and you're (22:24):
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traveling, you're going to, you (22:26):
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know, yes, you probably have a (22:27):
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half a dozen competition guns (22:28):
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and you've got, you know, all (22:29):
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that. (22:31):
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But if you're a weekend warrior,
you know, and I mean, you don't (22:31):
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need much there, you know? (22:35):
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Yeah. (22:37):
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You need a decent holster, a gun (22:38):
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that's going to run a half a (22:39):
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dozen magazines, you know, some (22:40):
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good ammo, uh, glasses and (22:42):
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hearing protection and then show (22:46):
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up. (22:47):
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Yeah. (22:49):
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You know, so. (22:49):
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Well, you know, I think that
that dovetails into the final (22:50):
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point I was going to make. (22:54):
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And I think this is very (22:56):
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important and it's (22:57):
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philosophical. (22:58):
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And I'd like to hear your
thoughts, Roy, the idea that (22:59):
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it's all about satisfaction,
because if you buy a cheap (23:02):
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whatever of any kind, are you
going to be satisfied with that? (23:07):
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But if you buy the same kind of
mid-grade, which is where the (23:11):
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vast majority of folks buy, I
mean, that's that's almost a (23:14):
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given that and manufacturers
know this, they'll give you a (23:17):
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real cheap one. (23:20):
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They'll give you real expensive
one, and know that eighty to (23:21):
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ninety percent of sales will be
that middle one, whether it's (23:24):
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the same product or not. (23:27):
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If it's got the middle price, (23:28):
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that's where everybody (23:29):
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Compromises. (23:31):
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But if you do buy that middle
ground gun or, uh, you know, a, (23:31):
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there's a custom nineteen
eleven, a Nighthawk, a Kimber or (23:37):
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something like that. (23:41):
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Or you can get a good quality (23:42):
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Springfield, you know, Ruger, (23:44):
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whatever. (23:46):
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Are you going to be satisfied? (23:47):
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And if you're not, you'll end up
spending more money. (23:49):
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You'll probably start by two or
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Get the middle grade, not be
satisfied by the most expensive, (23:54):
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and then you're not going to be
satisfied either because it's (23:57):
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like, well, now as we've said,
I'm not, you know, shooting in (23:59):
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the professional leagues because
it didn't make me any better. (24:03):
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we've all got to get to in our (24:07):
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own minds is you got to be (24:09):
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satisfied. (24:11):
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You know, intellectually, the
cheap, cheap version probably is (24:12):
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not that good. (24:16):
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That's cheap for a reason. (24:17):
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The most expensive is probably
very high quality. (24:18):
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And if you're a pro level, (24:22):
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whatever, you probably need (24:24):
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that. (24:25):
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But if you're like the vast
majority of what Eric Gillhaus (24:26):
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calls normal earth people. (24:29):
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Me and you and Roy and everybody
else. (24:30):
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The middle ground is probably (24:33):
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the best way to go, but the key (24:34):
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there is just be satisfied with (24:36):
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it. (24:38):
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So I know you're. (24:38):
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We call you the Missouri Buddha. (24:39):
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Roy. (24:41):
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So your thoughts on being
satisfied with what you buy? (24:41):
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Well, people may not realize how
manufacturers play that card. (24:45):
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Uh, every manufacturer I know
who sells anything other than (24:49):
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Rolls Royce has has the good,
better, best, right? (24:55):
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If you're a, if you're a, a (25:01):
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leather maker, you'll, you'll (25:02):
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say, well, you can buy this belt (25:05):
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and it's seventy five dollars, (25:06):
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but you can buy a belt and a (25:08):
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holster for one hundred and (25:11):
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fifty dollars, or you can buy a (25:13):
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belt and a holster and a mag (25:17):
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pouch for one hundred and ninety (25:19):
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five dollars. (25:20):
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Well, see, that's good. (25:21):
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Better, best. (25:22):
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So a guy goes to their website
and he wants to buy a gun belt. (25:23):
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So there it is. (25:27):
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Right. (25:28):
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But he's going to look and just
say, well, you know, just for a (25:29):
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few more dollars. (25:31):
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Heck, I can get a holster too. (25:32):
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Right. (25:34):
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And and then it goes and, and
that's where many people stop. (25:35):
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But then the smart people might (25:39):
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go, yeah, but for just a few (25:41):
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more dollars, I get a complete (25:42):
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set. (25:43):
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And and you can't tell me that. (25:44):
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That's not very satisfying
feeling. (25:46):
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And even though at the time they
go, well, that's more money than (25:50):
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I wanted to spend, when the box
shows up from the holster maker (25:53):
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and they have a new belt, a new
holster, and a new mag pouch. (25:57):
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They feel pretty nice about that
because think about it, right? (26:02):
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Because otherwise you get the
gun belt. (26:05):
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You'd say, oh man, I wish I
would have bought the holster. (26:07):
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Yeah. (26:10):
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And I think guns and accessories (26:12):
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of all kinds are exactly the (26:13):
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same thing. (26:15):
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And manufacturers do that. (26:15):
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I mean, Ruger makes the basic
ten twenty two. (26:17):
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They make a mid-range ten twenty (26:20):
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two and then they make a high (26:22):
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end target. (26:23):
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Ten twenty two and I mean, many
people are happy with the entry (26:24):
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level gun and there's nothing
wrong with that. (26:29):
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And if that's what you want to (26:30):
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do, then that's what you should (26:32):
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do. (26:33):
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There's nothing wrong with that. (26:33):
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But I think if you really want
to be shooting and you're going (26:35):
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to go hunting and you have some
experience and all that, I think (26:38):
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you'd make a mistake doing
almost anything entry level. (26:41):
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You you'd have to do just what
you're talking about, which is (26:45):
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at least go mid-range, you know,
and then as you get more (26:48):
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sophisticated, as your tastes
change, as you get more (26:52):
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experience, as your income
grows, as you get older, you (26:54):
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know, then now you can explore
maybe getting that, you know, a (26:58):
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little higher end. (27:01):
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I just did a video on the (27:03):
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Bighorn Armory, their model (27:04):
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eighty nine. (27:06):
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It's a six thousand dollars
lever action rifle. (27:06):
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Right. (27:09):
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And the comments were really
interesting. (27:10):
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There were well, I have a Rossi
lever action and it's just as (27:12):
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good, you know. (27:18):
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Well, good. (27:20):
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And you should probably keep
that Rossi, you know, because (27:22):
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here's someone who would
probably not really understand (27:25):
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what's going on here with this
Bighorn Armory gun. (27:28):
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Then there were a lot of people
who said, boy, you know, I've (27:31):
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got a marlin, I've got a this. (27:34):
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I've always admired these high
quality guns. (27:36):
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My rifle does the job for me,
but I can see where one of those (27:39):
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would just be so much fun to use
and, and buy. (27:43):
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And it's like, yeah, it is
right. (27:46):
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But they did good. (27:49):
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They bought a good tool for what
they needed. (27:50):
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And then there's a few people
who say, you know what? (27:52):
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I saved my money, I bought one. (27:55):
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It is the best, funnest darn
thing. (27:57):
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I love it every time I shoot it. (28:01):
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I just love it. (28:03):
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Everybody I show it to loses
their minds, you know? (28:05):
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And so that's I think that's the
balance, you know, so if you (28:08):
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can't appreciate that, then you
shouldn't waste your money on (28:12):
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it, you know, but if you can't
appreciate it, it's better to do (28:15):
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that than start at the bottom
and slowly work your way up. (28:18):
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Well, that word is another great
word to highlight in this (28:22):
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episode is appreciate. (28:25):
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I would say, you know, what are
they? (28:28):
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What's another saying? (28:31):
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Always spend more than you want
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Never less than you should. (28:36):
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Good point. (28:38):
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Right. (28:39):
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Yeah. (28:39):
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And and guns and gear are the
same way. (28:40):
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I mean, everything there is. (28:43):
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So if you're serious and you
want to to get into shooting, (28:45):
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for instance, you know, go to
the range, rent different guns, (28:50):
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talk to all your friends, shoot
their guns, educate yourself. (28:53):
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And then when you go to buy that
first gun, spend more than you (28:56):
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want to, but not less than you
should, because chances are (29:01):
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good, then you're going to be
satisfied with that, and it'll (29:05):
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be a gun that you can grow with. (29:08):
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Uh, it'll be a gun that you'll
likely keep in your collection. (29:10):
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You might pass it on to your son
or daughter or something. (29:13):
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Um, but because nothing is worse
than I mean, we make fun about (29:16):
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harbor freight, but I mean,
nothing truly is worse. (29:21):
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I not so much now, but years ago
Harbor Freight was just terrible (29:25):
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to up their game. (29:29):
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And they really have. (29:31):
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I mean, pretty much everything
works there. (29:32):
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But I mean, I remember buying an
electric tool thinking, oh good. (29:34):
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You know, I've got this like
really cool electric tool now. (29:37):
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Yeah. (29:40):
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You know, and you bring it home (29:40):
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and when you plug it in, you (29:42):
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hear the gears grind, you know, (29:43):
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or, and then the magical blue (29:45):
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smoke. (29:47):
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Yeah. (29:48):
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You know, and it's just like so
unsatisfying. (29:48):
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And you realize, well, I just
spent, you know, eighty nine (29:50):
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dollars on this. (29:53):
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And so then, you know, you take
that back or maybe you can't (29:53):
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take it back. (29:56):
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And then now you go to Home
Depot or someplace and you spend (29:57):
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one hundred and fifty dollars,
which you should have spent to (30:00):
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begin with, you know, and then
when you get home and you're (30:03):
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running it, oh, it's quiet, it's
smooth, it's got a lot of power. (30:06):
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You know, there's that (30:09):
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satisfaction because man, I and (30:10):
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I've seen a lot of people get (30:12):
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disillusioned, you know, (30:14):
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they'll, they, they go out and (30:15):
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they buy some fill in the blank (30:16):
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name brand cheapie gun, you (30:18):
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know, us. (30:22):
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And they go and they shoot it
and it's just not satisfying. (30:24):
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Yeah. (30:28):
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You know, and then they think, (30:28):
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well, this isn't any fun, you (30:30):
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know. (30:32):
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You know, and you're it is fun. (30:32):
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You just did it the wrong way. (30:34):
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Exactly. (30:36):
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Well, uh, great. (30:38):
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Uh, points. (30:40):
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And again, I don't think there's
a right or wrong answer here, (30:40):
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but just be educated. (30:43):
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Try to take your emotion, your, (30:44):
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uh, reptile brain, out of it a (30:47):
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little bit. (30:49):
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Don't fall for the marketing
hype. (30:49):
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was going to point out the, the (30:53):
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big dichotomy going away is when (30:54):
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I got to be editor of guns (30:57):
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magazine, you know, it's, it's (30:58):
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by virtue of what we do, it's (31:00):
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wonderful. (31:01):
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It's a blessing. (31:02):
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We get gear all the time. (31:03):
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And there reaches a point where
you get beyond, oh, cool. (31:05):
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The, the, as we call it, the
brown truck of joy showed up. (31:08):
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And now and some of this is
Roy's influence, but I've got (31:11):
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too much crap here and I just
give away stuff. (31:15):
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And I'm trying to downsize from
two story paid storage units to (31:18):
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at least one. (31:23):
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And a lot of it's just stuff (31:24):
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that I got and there's nothing (31:25):
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wrong with it, but it just it's (31:26):
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not something that makes my life (31:29):
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better. (31:30):
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And you, you're kind of
conflicted and getting rid of (31:31):
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it, but, uh, have it. (31:33):
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What my point I'm trying to make
here is having more gear does (31:35):
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not make you the winner. (31:39):
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And it certainly doesn't change
your skill level. (31:41):
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And, uh, I've got a friend who (31:43):
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owns a burial vault company, and (31:44):
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he often points out he so far in (31:47):
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the thousands of funerals he's (31:49):
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worked, he's never seen a hearse (31:50):
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with a luggage rack or pulling a (31:52):
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trailer. (31:53):
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So that kind of kind of puts it
in perspective, you know, you (31:54):
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know, die hard hunters. (31:59):
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And you're probably one of (32:00):
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these, uh, that you go to, (32:01):
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they're like hunting room, you (32:04):
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know, or the portion of their (32:07):
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garage that has the hunting (32:08):
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stuff. (32:10):
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And there's, you know, a dozen
different packs and, you know, (32:10):
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five different waiters and yeah,
yeah, thirty five spinning reels (32:14):
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and, you know, the list goes on. (32:19):
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I've just got that in my garage. (32:22):
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biggest thing for me is because (32:29):
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I've done it and you've done it (32:31):
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and everybody does it, but is (32:32):
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don't be in a rush to buy (32:35):
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everything. (32:37):
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Uh, because you're going to end
up like that. (32:38):
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You're going to have a shelf
full of holsters. (32:40):
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You're gonna have a shelf full
of other things that you never, (32:42):
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ever, ever use. (32:44):
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So if you, if you could be smart
enough to just step at a time, (32:46):
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it's more satisfying. (32:51):
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You'll save your money. (32:53):
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You won't waste it on things you
don't need. (32:54):
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You'll be able to buy better (32:56):
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things when you finally make the (32:57):
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buying decision, you know, uh, (32:59):
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and, and frankly, I almost (33:01):
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across the board, fewer is (33:04):
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usually better because you can (33:06):
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focus on learning to use what (33:07):
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you have rather than just (33:09):
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acquiring. (33:11):
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Yep. (33:12):
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The more crap you have, the less
freedom you have in your life. (33:13):
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And I, I truly believe that. (33:16):
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So. Well, Roy, a great topic,
great discussion. (33:18):
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We need to get on out of here. (33:21):
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Of course, if you're watching on (33:23):
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YouTube, please leave us a (33:24):
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comment. (33:25):
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I'd like to hear what you think
and I'm sure we will. (33:25):
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And then if you're listening to
us on an audio podcast, Spotify, (33:28):
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Apple Podcasts, some of those,
you can always reach out and (33:32):
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send us an email that's editor
at podcast dot us. (33:36):
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And, uh, I, I've been bad lately
not responding to the emails, (33:41):
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but I do certainly read them and
we certainly appreciate it. (33:45):
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So, uh, before we get out of
here, of course, make sure you (33:47):
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check out guns magazine dot com. (33:50):
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I just had a piece this week. (33:52):
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It should be published now where
I went back and reviewed stuff (33:53):
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that I reviewed two or three
years ago in guns magazine. (33:57):
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And, uh, it's kind of funny not
to get off on a separate topic, (34:00):
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but I realized there's a lot of
gear that we review, and then (34:03):
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that's the last time it sees the
light of day. (34:06):
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It goes on the shelf. (34:08):
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And then there's gear that I
still use almost every day. (34:09):
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And I thought, I'll go back and (34:12):
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do the, uh, the redo, uh, gear (34:14):
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review so you can check that (34:17):
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out. (34:18):
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Guns magazine dot com. (34:18):
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Of course, if you want to buy
some merch and we've been (34:20):
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selling some merch, uh, t
shirts, sweatshirts, mugs, you (34:22):
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can go to guns podcast dot us. (34:26):
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And you can also see some of my (34:29):
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writing and other fun stuff (34:31):
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there. (34:32):
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It's kind of just a junk drawer (34:32):
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of, of fun and interesting (34:34):
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stuff. (34:36):
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And, uh, so you can check that
out. (34:36):
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Guns podcast dot us and guns
magazine dot com. (34:38):
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So anyway, Roy, let's get on out
of here. (34:42):
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I appreciate you talking, uh,
taking time to talk about this. (34:44):
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As always, you've got great (34:47):
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insight from many years of (34:49):
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shooting. (34:50):
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So on behalf of Roy Huntington,
I'm Brent Wheat, the host of (34:51):
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And as I always remind you, now (34:55):
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it's time to get out there and (34:57):
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get shooting. (34:58):
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