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June 16, 2025 • 63 mins

On this episode of The Helen & Mt Podcast, we sit down with Jason and Kirsten Clawson for a powerful and heartfelt conversation. Both widowed, Jason and Kirsten share how their individual journeys through grief brought them together, and led them to a life of purpose, healing, and service.

Whether you’ve experienced loss yourself or want to better support someone who has, this conversation is full of wisdom, honesty, and hope.

In this episode, we explore:

  • How Jason and Kirsten met after both losing their spouses
  • Why they felt called to help others through grief
  • Practical ways to support someone who is grieving
  • What actually helps—and what doesn’t—when someone is experiencing deep loss
  • The role of faith in healing and moving forward
  • Understanding anticipatory grief and its emotional impact
  • The importance of being of service and finding purpose through pain

To learn more about Jason and Kirsten, follow them on Instagram: @lightaftergrief

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