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May 27, 2026 27 mins

What if the resume is the least reliable part of hiring today?

In this episode, Josh Cary sits down with Michael Campbell, founder of Signal Verified, who is challenging the entire hiring system as we know it. This is not a tweak. It is a complete rethinking of how talent is discovered, evaluated, and trusted.

If you are a leader making hiring decisions, or a high performer tired of being overlooked, this conversation flips the script. Michael breaks down why resumes fail, how companies are making costly hiring mistakes, and what a proof based system looks like in practice.

This is a conversation about opportunity, fairness, and building a future where skill wins. And underneath it all, it is a story about stepping forward when life forces your hand.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

Why Resumes Are Quietly Failing Everyone

The hidden flaws in traditional hiring systems and why relying on credentials and gut instinct leads to missed talent and expensive mistakes.

The Rise of Proof Based Hiring

How Signal Verified is creating a new category where candidates demonstrate real ability before they are hired and why this levels the playing field instantly.

The True Cost of a Bad Hire

Beyond salary percentages, Michael reveals the deeper impact on team morale, performance, and long term business outcomes.

What “Hire Slow, Fire Fast” Actually Means

Why speed in hiring is often the wrong goal and how shifting to thoughtful, evidence based decisions changes everything.

From Layoff to Founder

Michael’s transition from being behind the scenes to building something of his own and the mindset shift required to embrace uncertainty and ownership.

The Human Side of Business in an AI World

Why authenticity, connection, and real presence are becoming more valuable than ever in both hiring and leadership.

Creating Access to Opportunity at Scale

The bigger mission behind Signal Verified and how connecting human potential to economic opportunity could reshape entire industries.

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