February 4, 2026 • 42 mins
Building The IN Movement studio began the moment a vision stopped feeling theoretical and started asking something real of Byron de Marsé.
In this episode, Byron speaks candidly about what it means to bring The In Movement into form. Not as a brand concept, but as a lived philosophy shaped by years of teaching, partnership, risk, and trust.
Rather than offering a polished origin story, Byron reflects on the quieter forces behind the studio’s creation. The long arc of preparation, the subtle pivots that could have led somewhere smaller, and the internal clarity required to choose something bigger. He explores the tension between going inward and showing up fully in the world, and why embodiment, community, and lasting transformation sit at the heart of this movement.
This conversation invites you behind the scenes of a project still unfolding. It does not explain everything. Instead, it opens a doorway into the questions, values, and inner work that make this space what it is becoming.
Episode Chapters:
00:00 – Returning to the mic and the season of building
02:03 – A pivotal moment and the idea of preparation meeting opportunity
05:52 – Truth, freedom, and the inner work behind the vision
10:00 – What “The In Movement” actually means
15:37 – Alignment, disagreement, and creative tension between founders
20:14 – Byron’s role as a visionary and pattern seer
23:25 – When the project almost took a smaller form
25:20 – Curating an experience of lasting transformation
29:26 – Community, embodiment, and why people come back
30:50 – What this space is asking of him now
35:18 – Empowerment, oscillation, and long-term support
37:43 – How to stay connected as the movement unfolds
Mentions & Resources:
Michael Henri’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaelyoga.pt/
Byron de Marse’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/byronyoga/
The IN Movement Instagram: https://www.instagram/com/the_in_movement/
The IN Movement Podcast was formerly the Going Pro Yoga Podcast — and before that, the Yoga Teacher Evolution Podcast and the Rat Race Rebellion Podcast. Same mission, evolved name.
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All right, everyone, welcome back to the In Movement podcast.
So it's been a bit of time sincewe've been on the mic, and
Byron's here in the house. Hi, Byron.
It's Hello. So, yeah, just kind of coming
back after a little bit of a lull over the holidays.
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There's been a lot going on. We've mentioned a few times, you
know, building studio space, andthat's kind of all coming
through in the upcoming months, which is really exciting.
So we took the last few months to take some time off and now
we're back, which is pretty exciting.
It's exciting for me, yeah. I hope it is for everyone.
Yeah, well, if you don't know much about it, we're going to
talk a lot about it, so. There we go.
(01:04):
So for today and the next coupleepisodes, we're going to kind of
just unfold a little bit about like what has been going on from
the perspectives of, you know, Byron, Paul and Leia, who are
actually the founders of this entire movement overall.
And just kind of talking about like some of the things that
have been happening, how it's kind of happened, you know, some
of the things in between. And ultimately just creating a
bit of a story of like how we got to this point, all knowing
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that we're leading up to the opening of the studio, which is
scheduled to be for in April of this year, 2026.
Anything for you, Brian? How does it feel to be back?
Back on the mic, on the mic Oh, I love the mic love the mic.
This forces me right into the the full present moment, which
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is is nice. It's always nice when you have
so much going on and you're trying to juggle so many
different tasks and meetings andthen you got your classes.
Actually, classes are a bit of areprieve from that too, because
they also force you right into the present moment.
But there's so much planning andcreating and I love it.
But yeah, when you just hit record on this mic, it's just
it's just what's important and just let it come through.
(02:11):
Yeah, in in kind of the world ofthe microphone and the
headphones. So I'm curious like I'm the kind
of the outline of steering this conversation through logic so
that the the listeners, there's so much going on that it's like,
where do we really start? Yeah.
Yeah. Well, we start with the first
question. Oh, I have a couple questions to
kind of. Create that.
OK, perfect. That's perfect.
(02:32):
First question that I have aboutthis was, was there a pivotal
life moment that influenced yourapproach to creating this space
here in Bali? And what is that space?
Do they know the space? We talked about the studio being
built, but I'd say not so much. Maybe.
I mean, we can talk about it as though they don't know.
(02:55):
Yeah, that's kind of where I wasat.
I was like, OK, everybody, if this is your first episode
you're ever listening to this podcast has taken on a few
different titles and now it is shifting into a brand new, let's
call it orientation. So a different configuration.
And that basically means we're going to have a new title.
(03:17):
We're going to have me and Michael will both be very
involved with the podcasts and we're, we're going to format it
a bit as well to, to make it as friendly as possible for, for
those of you that are listening so that the content will be
absorbable. It will be meaningful,
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transformational and represent who we are, who we are at our
core and this movement that we are creating right now.
So the name is called the in movement as I think we've
announced before. So let's go back to that first
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question now. Yeah.
Was there a pivotal life at the moment that influenced basically
getting to this point of creating this space?
Yeah, the way my navigation system is responding to that is
that preparation meets opportunity and that equals what
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people call luck. So we're very lucky in some ways
to, to be in this position basedoff of the environment, the, the
yoga, the yoga, what am I thinking of niche, you know, of
yoga, like where it is in the marketplace, for example, and
being in Bali, Ubud specifically.
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And then preparation is like allof those years of hard work or
blood sweat and tears of teaching 25 classes a week or 15
classes a week or three years straight of no days off and
really honing in the craft of the experience of space holding
and, and refining that. And then, you know, going to
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retreats and leading those all over the world with Paul and
then eventually coming to Bali and doing trainings and at the
same time expanding, at least from my own personal
perspective, my own. Yeah, just expanding my own
horizons and continuing to learnand continuing to see through my
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lens, but do my best to like addmore information and see through
others lenses as well so that the evolution continues.
And yeah, the movement continues.
The pivotal moment would just bethe partnership, the
relationship that we built over the years with yoga studio here
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in Ubud and then us agreeing to partner in this bigger project
together. And I would say that agreement
is the pivotal, the pivotal moment that actually made it
being made it able to manifest in this material world.
Yeah, and that happened through showing up all that hard work
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stuff as well. Yeah, I'm going to get to the
next question, but I actually curious in about your hat says.
Oh my hat, my hat. What does it say?
Read it for me. Without truth, there is no.
Freedom, yes. And I think this is getting into
the guts of our brand a bit. And as a lot of you know, I've
developed empowerment yoga a fewyears ago and this also
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resonates with that level without truth.
There is no freedom. Or there is no freedom without
truth. Either way you look at it, is it
true? Depends how you define freedom,
I guess. But to be free of suffering,
which is what the Bhagavad Gita is all about, then you got to
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have truth. But what is truth?
Maharashi says the truth is in silence.
So if I'm able to be still and to let whatever needs to come up
come up, that would be, in some essence, the definition of
truth. And through that experience,
which some might call acceptance, some might call it
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meditation or just awareness, wecultivate more what's known as
freedom. But if you're looking at this
through the lens of like, I'm a free country, I'm a free man,
not exactly the same thing. Creating this.
You know, these questions might all do this to me, but it's just
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everything to me is in flow and synchronistic, so it doesn't
like nothing feels like there's a boundary of when it wasn't and
when it is, it doesn't make sense like when.
It started or. Exactly.
It's just it's started when I was born.
It's easier to trace back to like at least 1514 years ago and
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now it's like through the relationships and through the
energy and through a lot of likeadaptive patterns that you know
you witnessed that may or may not be helpful or serving you.
You start to recognize that you want to listen to that deeper
soul level or call it gut instinct, call it intuition, but
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to me, it's like listening to your soul of where you're
supposed to go and what you're supposed to do.
And I feel like the more work you do on yourself and the more
coherence that is coming throughwith your heart and your mind
and just everything all together, then it's pretty clear
the path you should follow. And there's also this, this,
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this deep trust that begins to happen as well.
That's, it's not that kind of trust that is like, oh, I trust
you to, to help me out or trust you to, you know, Michael, to
lead a really good podcast. It's not bad.
It's more of like if you fuck upand do a terrible podcast, I
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still trust that that's meaningful as well and that
it's, it's meant to be and that there's something good and juicy
there to learn from the boundaries a little blurry for
me. It's like, it's just, it's
always meant to be. Like this moment is meant to be
wherever we're at right now. It's not a surprise.
It doesn't feel like there was astrong moment that I was like
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made a choice to do this or anything like that.
It was all pretty effortless. But through a lot of
determination and showing up andstaying connected to it and also
learning from what you might call perceived mistakes, even
though there are no mistakes, you know, but learning from
things that might bring you out of coherence and higher
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stressful times and also observing through others
experiences, but ultimately regulating your own life.
It just seems like you follow the path of least resistance.
And if there is resistance there, it's not, don't, you
know, don't avoid it. Observe it and observe your own,
(10:23):
you know, maybe truth within that resistance.
And then you can, yeah, make make your choices from there.
What does the in movement mean or represent for you then?
So you know me, I'm a wordsmith.I love words.
And originally our brand, who some of our listeners might have
attended some classes at a studio called Empowered that we
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had in the South part of Bali, we had it for about a year.
And so I as much as that word is, is a, is a word I like it
was, we made a group decision tomove away from that word.
You know, there are no wrong decisions with, with like
branding and stuff. Like everything is going to lead
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you somewhere, but you still want it to resonate for you.
So I remember I had a moment I was in India and I think you
were the first person I told this to.
I was like, gosh, this is comingthrough so strong.
And it's some of some people have been to India, they've
listened to this. If you haven't, the energy there
is very mystical And like, if you're already tapped into the
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universal signs, like they seem to give you stronger there.
Bali's like that too. So I had this download, let's
call it where the word in came in really strong.
It was like in, in, in, in. And it could be a preposition,
It could be a noun. It can probably be, I don't know
if it can be a verb, but it, it's a very multifaceted word
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and very simple. It's 2 letters and in a modern
world where it's can be kind of tricky and it can be difficult
to define who you are, you know,your branding and all of this.
Like that's the word that came through for me really strong.
And also to be like full transparent, the word involved
also came in. I was like in and involved.
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And so I sent that to the branding agency in the group and
everybody kind of bought into itand was like, let's let's work
with that. And so then when, you know, we
already were aware that like, you can call something, you
know, house, or you can call it movement, or you can call it
studio or centre, you know, after that.
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So when we put movement after it, we looked at it, we're like,
oh, movement is like a broader term to go outward in means to
go inward and that play on wordsthat created a bit of a paradox,
especially when you put the wordthe in front of it, the in
movement. You know, if you just, you know,
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I wanted you to sit with that because if I just speed through
it, it's hard to really digest it.
But if you say in movement, it'svery much insinuated that
there's there's movement happening in the body, like
physical movement. Whereas if you go with the in
movement, it's more of like we're the in and movement is
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just an additional word after it.
We're the in the in movement. That's kind of I think the
essence or at least a part of a perspective of what the word
movement could be can also be movement, physical movement,
yoga, asana, that type of stuff could be movement of the mind,
movement of energy. The in part in combination with
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that I think is what gives it that play and that paradox.
And you know, it can be up for interpretation like what it
might mean for each individual person.
And I'm sure, you know, Paul andLeia and even myself will have
different ways in which we wouldverbalize that same thing.
So. At the center of our being there
is this profound, say, essence of of knowing.
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And yoga is it's always been about that.
But what it hasn't really been about, at least in some of the
modern times, is how to go out into the world and actually make
a difference in the world. So going in, we don't we don't
want to just go out and you don't want to just go in like
you want to make sure this is a,a full, you know, well-rounded,
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call it holistic perspective of you know how this works, like go
by going out, you make you make the differences and like you can
define what does going out mean?You know, what does the movement
aspect mean? Obviously, the in part is pretty
simple. You're going in inside, but to
go out or to be in movement, it's like it could be a global
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movement across the world. But how does that really happen?
And to me, that's happening on the level of you are raising
your vibration by going inward. And by going inward.
If you just, if you raise your vibration to the point where you
decide to hide from the world, that doesn't do much good.
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But if you raise your vibration and you live your life and
you're naturally gravitating towards connection, human
interaction, which perhaps turnsinto save a selfless service or
community charity or for example, then you are making a
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difference in the world. Even just by leaving your house,
you're making a difference because your vibration is
raised. Yeah, some, some people might
think they have to go start a charity and it's like there's so
many things they have to to do in order to get that, that main
thing to happen and to raise money for that cause.
But I believe that just by raising your vibration, leaving
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your house, you're doing it. Did you all agree you, Paul and
Leia all agree immediately on the direction or did it
alignment take some time? I think that's a constant work
in progress even now, like differing outlooks on kind of
how it's going to go. But that's, that's the, that's
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the fun part about all this stuff is like, as much as you
pretend that something's set in stone or like a final decision
is happening, that's not ever true.
I mean, even if you painted the walls of certain colour, you
could change the colour. OK, maybe the, the studio's
harder to change, you know, the floor is there, but you could
technically expand that. So what when it is?
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So to me, everything's always malleable.
And so I'm always like throwing out ideas and, you know, kind of
interesting to see what sticks. And some ideas I recognize
aren't meant to be the idea, butmore of just to stimulate more
conversation around the idea to lead to the next evolution of
what the choice would be. So I like the ideas right now of
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like leaning into the end part as much as we can because I just
like how simple it is. You know, there's a lot of
brands out there right now that have movement afterwards.
It's really, really popular. I keep seeing it.
I don't know if it's like chicken or the egg, but ever
since we decided to call ours movement, I just see it
everywhere. But almost all of them have to
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do with moving your body. Ours is less about that and more
about the bigger global movement.
So that's an interesting thing to me that we need to to kind of
work with because you are very much working with the collective
field of what what energy or what definitions, what reality
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has been put into a word. That's kind of why we went away
from empowered a bit empowered. Everybody's empowered.
This yoga studio is empowering. This life coach is empowered.
We kind of looked at that and we're like, OK, let's move away
from empowered. I don't think in is going to go
out of style, no pun intended. So let's let's do something very
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simple that'll never get old. And let's not lean into inward
too much or inside too much. That way it can keep the
connotation of I'm in, I'm in, you know, that's a little
different. That's like an exclamation
point. Often times when, you know, we
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answer the question, if we're invited somewhere and we're
like, hey, are you, are you coming to that, that party, you
know, on, you know, next week I'm in, you know, something like
that. Not just yes, like I'm in, it's
like the ultimate yes. And so I think in that way,
that's that's what I'm leaning into us being like I'm in, you
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know, meaning like I'm in the world.
I'm in this experience. I'm not just going inside to
hide, and I don't think most people are aware that they're
going inside to hide by any means.
But that level of consciousness will arise at some point.
And there are monasteries and ashrams you can go enroll
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yourself in if you really need that.
But if you're not going to do that, you're living on planet
Earth with most of the, you know, the population that's
living in a society that's connected by a device and is
more and more leaning into artificial intelligence and
needs more authentic human interaction and needs people in
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the world that I mean it. They are empowered.
But they do it by not just goingin, but by choosing to be in.
And that's really exciting to me.
Yeah. OK.
So even though it's a very simple title, in some ways it's
just, it has so much depth, right for me.
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And when you simplify language, you know, into duality, you just
look at hot and cold or wet or dry, hard or soft, you know, And
so we have in and out, which is a very simple, easy to digest.
For us human organisms with where we're at and our
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consciously easy for everyone todigest on that duality level and
you can such a wide spectrum, you can work with there from all
the way in to all the way out. What do you think is your unique
perspective or skill set that brings to this brand?
My unique perspective perspective skills.
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You know, collaborating with a group of people, what is it that
you feel like you bring to the to the movement?
Yeah. So on an individual, so this is
always interesting because you're speaking from the eye
point of view, which there's always a little ego in there.
So you got to like recognize that and still talk through it.
So I resonate as a visionary. I don't see anyone else in our
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group. That's as much in the visionary
archetype as I am. So I view my role as once again
noticing patterns, seeing the unseen, a bit of the magician
role. It's kind of what I do in my
yoga classes too. I'm just helping navigate others
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process of seeing themselves or seeing the world or seeing
others in a different light or through a different lens.
So that's also my superpower or my unique gift that lends to the
team because I I can I can identify patterns and trends and
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I can look at the marketplace and see like Rep.
I can notice pattern. Wow, that's the eighth time I've
seen that this month. Like that stands out to me, you
know, through awareness. So it might just to simplify it
just be like, I think I have a very broad awareness is my main
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unique gift, which in turn lendsto a lot of creative ideas and
implementation of maybe what might be considered as not the
societal norm or the expected, whether it's through a class
offering or the pay structure orboldness.
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Yeah. And you know, this, it's a
difficult role to be in sometimes because if somebody
doesn't see something, they don't believe in it, but they
have a level of trust with you too.
But then they're hard wired already in some ways to maybe
not believe it. So you got to have patience in
that role and and not be so attached either to push anything
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forward with like a, a, a, an agenda.
I think that's the key to that role.
That's great. That makes me think a little bit
about the spirit animal thing, but I don't want to get into
that too much. I don't think maybe that could
be another. Episode I'm a corgi, yeah, I'm a
corgi that herds people. Like.
It's true though, like, yeah, just get just kind of nudge
people in a certain direction, right?
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And then maybe they'll go in that direction or maybe they
won't. You know, at the end of the day,
you can't control that. But all you can do is kind of
lead them there. Corgi.
Corgi is my animal. And corgis are little dogs with
the big butts who like the roundup sheep and cattle and
stuff. And like that's, that's my
spirit. And that's your unique
perspective to bring? Yeah.
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Was there a moment or moments where this whole thing didn't
almost didn't happen? There was different iterations
of ways it could have happened that would have looked
different, maybe smaller and less big.
So like we have a big project going on.
It's almost finished and it's it's a big place and it has
multi features to massive yoga studios, bigger than you see
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most places, way bigger. They can fit 90 people, 70
people. That's a lot of people.
Maybe we even add a third room to that.
And then we also have like the ability to film there.
We also have a restaurant. We also have a nice lawn area
where 50 people could hang out if they wanted to and just
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chill. And then we have a recovery
center just meaning like with the sauna, the cold plunge, the
little salt and magnesium pull. So like this turned into a
pretty big project, but originally it went was
potentially going to be in a different direction where we
just had one room, none of the other things, just one yoga
studio that might have fit 50 people, even 40 and that would
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have been a yoga teacher training room and that's it.
So it really blossoms. So they could have gone into
that direction pretty easily. But as the visionary, like once
I got the information of possibilities, I started to
really get excited and, and heard people nudge them in a
certain direction. And that's the direction we
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went. Although much more expensive
upfront investment, it's still the direction we chose.
And so here we are. And now you can literally walk
around in this place and you've done it, you've been in there,
you can feel it, you can sense it and you can visualize so much
more now There's there's so muchmore unlocked energy now that
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you can, you can just see possibilities there.
It's it's pretty cool. Let's Fast forward a little bit.
Studios built, things are rolling, going well.
What, what is your hope for people's experience to be or
what are you trying to help curate an experience for people
so that they can, you know, walkaway with what?
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You know, a lot of our branding is around this phrase, lasting
transformation. So we want people to learn or
remember how to level up their life or their state of
consciousness and not just to have a quick fix and go back to
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the norm. Quick fix, go back to the norm,
quick fix, go back to the norm. Although that can be effective
too. And sometimes, you know, you
just get fed up with going back to the norm.
So you you decide to change something in your life.
So often community, and this is from somebody like I, I'm not,
I'm not somebody who really had that in my vocabulary for most
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of my life. Community.
I had friends of course. And but when I got into yoga, it
didn't feel like it was for community.
It was really for my personal spiritual liberation.
I wouldn't have said that either.
I would have just said, I don't know, I just feel good after
this. I can't explain it.
My mind feels more calm and I feel more expansive and I feel
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less fear and less anxious and, and yes, I'm around people when
I'm doing it. So maybe there was a communal
aspect that I didn't really catch on to, but for the most
part, leave me alone while I'm in there.
Like I just wanted to be in my own bubble, but I wouldn't have
done that in my living room online either.
So there was something about being around people that we're
all doing this and maybe an unexplainable or less tangible,
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more ethereal type of let's callit A and entrainment of a sense
where they were pulling me alonglike the embodiment of the
teacher was was drawing me out and inspiring me.
I was becoming more confident, not just through these exercises
and stretches and yoga, but through the actual powerful
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teacher that had walked the walkand through walk them walking
the walk. It couldn't help but want to
walk the walk too. So step one is get them, get
people that experience where really embodied people are
facilitating the practices. And it's not just, forgive me if
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you're in this bracket, but a 21year old that just finished
their 200 hour teacher training and is leading a vinyasa
demonstrating the whole class. And a lot of those people are my
students and I love them. And I, I do think if you do
that, like there's nothing wrongwith that, but you should have
some desire to move from that atsome point and evolve your
teaching into a place where you can stay fully present with the
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individuals that are in that room.
And also increase your capacity to hold space on a higher level
so that you are raising your vibration, not just sweating and
stretching. What I want people to walk out
of there with is like a real embodied experience because they
got to see it, feel it, taste it, touch it, sense it all
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through a masterful experience. And then through the integrity
of the architecture or landscapeof the in movement platform,
people are able to continue to connect with community.
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So the in person community is ispretty simple to me.
It just happens through really awesome classes and people want
to keep coming back and they want to share it with their
friends. That's what I do.
If I love a dessert somewhere, Iwant somebody to taste it.
If I love an experience somewhere, I want somebody to to
know about it and I want them toget credit for that a little
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bit. You know, it's part of the
reason. But I also want them to be
helped. So I think the in person on the
ground level of that is pretty simple.
But as far as the online architecture, I want to really
allow people to come to Bali. Those people who come here for
one month and then they leave and they might want to come back
for another month in the next year, they can come back again.
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But they don't, they don't lose themselves, right?
They don't lose themselves to the norm state change shift.
They're able to level up. They can keep levelling up.
And we support them in that process.
And honestly, they support us inthat process too.
You know, I mean, I'm just a talking head if I don't have
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people to listen to me as well. So it goes both ways.
So that entrainment pulling people, you know, it's happening
all the time. And I think that's a, that's a
key, the key factor of communitycommunities entrainment, like we
may not fully realize it on the deeper level, but we we
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gravitate towards, we need it for evolution.
We feel more whole with it and that's it's totally possible
through, through some of the, the, the 10,000 hours plus that
many of us have put in. I think 'cause it's got to start
there. What is this space asking of you
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now as it comes into this world?It is asking me to ask for help
a little bit because I think there's an organizational aspect
to to what is happening now thatfor exponential growth on a
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higher level to be realized, I'mgoing to have to get more
organized. And I also have to surrender to
the fact that I'm never going todo that.
I'm just never going to do that in a way that allows optimal
growth to happen. And luckily I already have
support around me. And, you know, Rhea, for
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example, you know, and, you know, she just keeps levelling
up and, you know, she's Bolognese assistant.
She's amazing. And, you know, and I've had,
I've just had, you know, all, you know, the team.
You know, we have a great team. We have a great team.
But also whether it's adding to that team or allowing more
opportunity for people to rise within, you know, what's
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happening. So, yeah, like, you know, asking
for help is an interesting way to say that receiving support
might be a better way to say that receiving support.
I, I, I changed my answer to thereceiving support.
I think it sounds a little bit better than rather asking for
help because again, I think no matter what, on a personal
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level, life is good. But if you're truly trying to
affect change and like, what is this space asking from me now at
this point, that's what it's asking for me, right?
This isn't just about me stayingin a higher vibration anymore.
You know, I think I've built up a lot of resilience in my own
system to have ups and downs andknow how to get back up again.
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But you know, what about others,you know, this space allows
that. So when you say space, it just
takes me into the exponential aspect of the movement of the
world of at least this communitywhere it starts.
And then, you know, it's starting to affect on a bigger
level, like, you know, if we won't really want to affect
change where people, you know, it, let's say yoga's dying down.
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I know some people think that, you know, that the trend of yoga
is like Pilates is replacing yoga studios and this is
happening around the world. They're going to pay $30.00 for
a drop in class. You'd rather take something
that's going to just blast you into some hard workout.
Almost, right? That's the embodied thing that's
missing. If you have a truly embodied
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leader or teacher or whatever you want to call it, and they
are facilitating an experience where you get to level up and
it's obvious to you that you're levelling up, you're not just
exercising, people will pay for that.
So when you say space, it makes me think of that experience of
like the overall, The overall, what is it when you put your
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narrative, It's the overall narrative, which we did a
podcast on. It's the overall narrative
around the word yoga in general.And if you really want to change
that as well and to have the stock be increasing rather than
decreasing, because I've definitely seen a change on that
for the last 20 plus years, thenyeah, it's going to really have
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to happen through that level of whatever I said, which I forgot.
You said a lot. I know, but it is going to have
to happen on an exponential level where we are doing it
together. Basically, we're doing it
together. Yeah.
So, you know, it makes me think a bit of the where it kind of
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stemmed from to some degree, theEmpowered studio, you know, we
played with that word empowered for a while, Empowered X and all
these things. And even though the name is
different, the element of empowerment or being empowered
or the journey of empowerment isall still infused within the
community, within the mission, within the vision, within the
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experience that we want to cultivate for people.
Not only just for the people that show up as you know, let's
say clients or customers, but also people who want to get
involved, be a teacher at the studio, you know, the staff,
whatever it is, is finding ways in which we can still empower
just the, the, the entire team, the collective, the people that
come in that can provide the help, which helped ultimately
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helps to empower ourselves as well.
So just thinking of that word, even though we've moved away
from it, we didn't really move it.
It's just kind of under the rug and still present.
Yeah, because with the word empowered and just leaving it at
that, it's very buzzy and strongand it's there's no insinuation
there that you're going to stay with them.
It's like our job is to get you empowered and then you're on
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your own, which isn't bad. It's just, is that enough?
Because the nature of life is tooscillate or fluctuate, and so
of course they're going to fluctuate from empowered to
something else. Below the line of empowerment
from the David Hawkins map of consciousness, at least
empowered is where you got to get in order to make choices for
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your life. And then you can start to reach
all those beautiful layers of acceptance and joy and love and
bliss and whatever else you wantto call it.
Enlightenment reasoning is even considered like a really high
vibration above empowerment or courage, which are considered
the same vibrational level. So yeah, it's like, hey, just
pat you on the butt. Hey, you're empowered, go out
there and get them, you know, But the truth is, is the world
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isn't, it's not too accepting ofempowered individuals, right?
Every advertisement you see and every device that you hold is
just programs are designed to disempower you, to pull your
power out of you a little bit and give them power to sell you
this, you know, so the in movement actually what a
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beautiful concept where you know, we have to define it and
help people to see see it. But the intention is there.
You go inside and become empowered and then you go out.
And this movement is a communityacross the world that will
support this growth for the longhaul, long term, forever and
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ever and ever and karmically transcending the next
generations and those generations after and after and
after. It's like that ripple effect.
Right. The ripple effect, that actually
is a huge part of it. It's part of the brand as well.
Why we have a? Little the logo.
It's a ripple. Yeah, we that's right.
Is it a ripple or a nipple? Well, it's a ripple that's
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either going in or it's going out or it's going both,
depending on the way that you look at it.
Yeah. Which is kind of the beauty of
the paradox to some degree as well.
Yeah. Great.
So yeah, let's wrap it up a little bit.
I'm just thinking of, you know, the people are like, oh, this is
cool. I'm excited.
I'm in Bali or I'm not in Bali. Like what can I, how can I like,
stay on top of these things? Like, how can I like get
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involved now or like, what can I, you know, is there anything
that I can do at this particulartime after listening to this
podcast? Like cool, this is all exciting
but like do I have to wait till April or like what's going on?
I would always point people to our new Instagram.
Yeah, that's the first thing I would do.
And then you can start to feel the like we're teasing, like a
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lot of the tidbits and founding information and the branding is
really strong. And eventually that's going to
be where everywhere, where everything goes.
And if you're in Bali, we'll probably add a a second account
for the Bali location so that we'll have like this online
platform that's really strong Instagram handle and then a
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second one that's more based offthe Ubud location.
That's that's what I would say, yeah.
What I would say is the in movement.com, the website
itself, if you go there, there'sa wait list, sign up simple that
you can kind of just jump onto our newsletter and you will be
informed how things kind of evolve.
When the studio is ready. Any kind of events that are
happening, trainings, these types of things, opportunities,
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stuff like that will all be kindof expressed and shared
obviously through Instagram because that's obviously a
portal that people love. But if you're like, you know
what, I just want to actually have something the word sent to
me and I don't actually have to log into that platform, then
yeah, just go to the in movement.com and you can just
sign up to the wait list and youknow you'll get sent the
details. Yeah, there might be some cool
like promotions or packages or like fun giveaways.
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Who knows what's going to happenthere, so.
Yeah. That would be what I would
recommend for sure. And then on, yeah, just keep
listening to the podcast, of course, because we're going to
continue to talk about these things.
You know, we'll have the other founders coming in and we'll
obviously continue to create valuable content for you guys,
just for, you know, the concept of yoga, of looking in, the
introspection, just, you know, life in general, lifestyle, all
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these things is really what thispodcast is going to be about,
making it fun, something to listen to.
But a lot of the authenticity and the presence and the
embodiment within this podcast is what I actually really love
doing. Yeah, you know, we did.
This is probably the first time that I've actually asked
questions, like structured questions and like years of
doing this podcast, which did feel a little off.
And you, you know, but at the same time, you know, structure
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is not a terrible thing. It's, you know, brings truth.
So to me, it's all transparency and just being as open as
possible. And and you know, as we're as
we're growing and learning and sharing things, we're, you know,
also being transparent in that way.
And I think everybody learns from those experiences.
You know, we also welcome feedback, which is kind of where
we're at now. So if you have any thoughts or
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feedback, you want to reach out.You can do that through the
Instagram handle. You can obviously reach out to
Byron Yoga Michael Yoga dot PT Otherwise, yeah, we'd love to
hear from you guys. But that's it for me.
Yeah. I mean, should I, should I hit
this button we created a while ago?
Sure. OK, so this button, here we go.
I'm going in. So that's a Byron from probably
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like God, maybe like 3-4 months ago now.
Yeah, inspiring little planting the seeds.
Inspiring little birds let's, you know, do the other one.
Let's do another one. We've got a few.
Let's see. Oh.
That's pretty good. That was nice.
That was me and Michael both, bythe way.
What's this one? I don't remember, that's a
little random. Last one and.
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Last one to finish it off. That was nice.
That's perfect. What a way to end.
Thanks Byron. Appreciate you.
Thanks for having me on, Michael, and I'm excited to host
some of these too. And to to go into this new.
It's not even a chapter. It's like a new, completely new
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beyond a book, even like a wholenew world.
Like an evolution. It's a whole new world.
Yeah, Aladdin would love that. All right, thanks everyone for
tuning in this week and I'll speak to you next week.
Take care for now, Ciao. I'm going in.
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All right, everyone, welcome back to the In Movement podcast.
So it's been a bit of time sincewe've been on the mic, and
Byron's here in the house. Hi, Byron.
It's Hello. So, yeah, just kind of coming
back after a little bit of a lull over the holidays.
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There's been a lot going on. We've mentioned a few times, you
know, building studio space, andthat's kind of all coming
through in the upcoming months, which is really exciting.
So we took the last few months to take some time off and now
we're back, which is pretty exciting.
It's exciting for me, yeah. I hope it is for everyone.
Yeah, well, if you don't know much about it, we're going to
talk a lot about it, so. There we go.
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So for today and the next coupleepisodes, we're going to kind of
just unfold a little bit about like what has been going on from
the perspectives of, you know, Byron, Paul and Leia, who are
actually the founders of this entire movement overall.
And just kind of talking about like some of the things that
have been happening, how it's kind of happened, you know, some
of the things in between. And ultimately just creating a
bit of a story of like how we got to this point, all knowing
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that we're leading up to the opening of the studio, which is
scheduled to be for in April of this year, 2026.
Anything for you, Brian? How does it feel to be back?
Back on the mic, on the mic Oh, I love the mic love the mic.
This forces me right into the the full present moment, which
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is is nice. It's always nice when you have
so much going on and you're trying to juggle so many
different tasks and meetings andthen you got your classes.
Actually, classes are a bit of areprieve from that too, because
they also force you right into the present moment.
But there's so much planning andcreating and I love it.
But yeah, when you just hit record on this mic, it's just
it's just what's important and just let it come through.
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Yeah, in in kind of the world ofthe microphone and the
headphones. So I'm curious like I'm the kind
of the outline of steering this conversation through logic so
that the the listeners, there's so much going on that it's like,
where do we really start? Yeah.
Yeah. Well, we start with the first
question. Oh, I have a couple questions to
kind of. Create that.
OK, perfect. That's perfect.
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First question that I have aboutthis was, was there a pivotal
life moment that influenced yourapproach to creating this space
here in Bali? And what is that space?
Do they know the space? We talked about the studio being
built, but I'd say not so much. Maybe.
I mean, we can talk about it as though they don't know.
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Yeah, that's kind of where I wasat.
I was like, OK, everybody, if this is your first episode
you're ever listening to this podcast has taken on a few
different titles and now it is shifting into a brand new, let's
call it orientation. So a different configuration.
And that basically means we're going to have a new title.
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We're going to have me and Michael will both be very
involved with the podcasts and we're, we're going to format it
a bit as well to, to make it as friendly as possible for, for
those of you that are listening so that the content will be
absorbable. It will be meaningful,
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transformational and represent who we are, who we are at our
core and this movement that we are creating right now.
So the name is called the in movement as I think we've
announced before. So let's go back to that first
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question now. Yeah.
Was there a pivotal life at the moment that influenced basically
getting to this point of creating this space?
Yeah, the way my navigation system is responding to that is
that preparation meets opportunity and that equals what
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people call luck. So we're very lucky in some ways
to, to be in this position basedoff of the environment, the, the
yoga, the yoga, what am I thinking of niche, you know, of
yoga, like where it is in the marketplace, for example, and
being in Bali, Ubud specifically.
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And then preparation is like allof those years of hard work or
blood sweat and tears of teaching 25 classes a week or 15
classes a week or three years straight of no days off and
really honing in the craft of the experience of space holding
and, and refining that. And then, you know, going to
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retreats and leading those all over the world with Paul and
then eventually coming to Bali and doing trainings and at the
same time expanding, at least from my own personal
perspective, my own. Yeah, just expanding my own
horizons and continuing to learnand continuing to see through my
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lens, but do my best to like addmore information and see through
others lenses as well so that the evolution continues.
And yeah, the movement continues.
The pivotal moment would just bethe partnership, the
relationship that we built over the years with yoga studio here
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in Ubud and then us agreeing to partner in this bigger project
together. And I would say that agreement
is the pivotal, the pivotal moment that actually made it
being made it able to manifest in this material world.
Yeah, and that happened through showing up all that hard work
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stuff as well. Yeah, I'm going to get to the
next question, but I actually curious in about your hat says.
Oh my hat, my hat. What does it say?
Read it for me. Without truth, there is no.
Freedom, yes. And I think this is getting into
the guts of our brand a bit. And as a lot of you know, I've
developed empowerment yoga a fewyears ago and this also
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resonates with that level without truth.
There is no freedom. Or there is no freedom without
truth. Either way you look at it, is it
true? Depends how you define freedom,
I guess. But to be free of suffering,
which is what the Bhagavad Gita is all about, then you got to
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have truth. But what is truth?
Maharashi says the truth is in silence.
So if I'm able to be still and to let whatever needs to come up
come up, that would be, in some essence, the definition of
truth. And through that experience,
which some might call acceptance, some might call it
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meditation or just awareness, wecultivate more what's known as
freedom. But if you're looking at this
through the lens of like, I'm a free country, I'm a free man,
not exactly the same thing. Creating this.
You know, these questions might all do this to me, but it's just
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everything to me is in flow and synchronistic, so it doesn't
like nothing feels like there's a boundary of when it wasn't and
when it is, it doesn't make sense like when.
It started or. Exactly.
It's just it's started when I was born.
It's easier to trace back to like at least 1514 years ago and
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now it's like through the relationships and through the
energy and through a lot of likeadaptive patterns that you know
you witnessed that may or may not be helpful or serving you.
You start to recognize that you want to listen to that deeper
soul level or call it gut instinct, call it intuition, but
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to me, it's like listening to your soul of where you're
supposed to go and what you're supposed to do.
And I feel like the more work you do on yourself and the more
coherence that is coming throughwith your heart and your mind
and just everything all together, then it's pretty clear
the path you should follow. And there's also this, this,
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this deep trust that begins to happen as well.
That's, it's not that kind of trust that is like, oh, I trust
you to, to help me out or trust you to, you know, Michael, to
lead a really good podcast. It's not bad.
It's more of like if you fuck upand do a terrible podcast, I
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still trust that that's meaningful as well and that
it's, it's meant to be and that there's something good and juicy
there to learn from the boundaries a little blurry for
me. It's like, it's just, it's
always meant to be. Like this moment is meant to be
wherever we're at right now. It's not a surprise.
It doesn't feel like there was astrong moment that I was like
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made a choice to do this or anything like that.
It was all pretty effortless. But through a lot of
determination and showing up andstaying connected to it and also
learning from what you might call perceived mistakes, even
though there are no mistakes, you know, but learning from
things that might bring you out of coherence and higher
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stressful times and also observing through others
experiences, but ultimately regulating your own life.
It just seems like you follow the path of least resistance.
And if there is resistance there, it's not, don't, you
know, don't avoid it. Observe it and observe your own,
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you know, maybe truth within that resistance.
And then you can, yeah, make make your choices from there.
What does the in movement mean or represent for you then?
So you know me, I'm a wordsmith.I love words.
And originally our brand, who some of our listeners might have
attended some classes at a studio called Empowered that we
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had in the South part of Bali, we had it for about a year.
And so I as much as that word is, is a, is a word I like it
was, we made a group decision tomove away from that word.
You know, there are no wrong decisions with, with like
branding and stuff. Like everything is going to lead
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you somewhere, but you still want it to resonate for you.
So I remember I had a moment I was in India and I think you
were the first person I told this to.
I was like, gosh, this is comingthrough so strong.
And it's some of some people have been to India, they've
listened to this. If you haven't, the energy there
is very mystical And like, if you're already tapped into the
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universal signs, like they seem to give you stronger there.
Bali's like that too. So I had this download, let's
call it where the word in came in really strong.
It was like in, in, in, in. And it could be a preposition,
It could be a noun. It can probably be, I don't know
if it can be a verb, but it, it's a very multifaceted word
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and very simple. It's 2 letters and in a modern
world where it's can be kind of tricky and it can be difficult
to define who you are, you know,your branding and all of this.
Like that's the word that came through for me really strong.
And also to be like full transparent, the word involved
also came in. I was like in and involved.
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And so I sent that to the branding agency in the group and
everybody kind of bought into itand was like, let's let's work
with that. And so then when, you know, we
already were aware that like, you can call something, you
know, house, or you can call it movement, or you can call it
studio or centre, you know, after that.
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So when we put movement after it, we looked at it, we're like,
oh, movement is like a broader term to go outward in means to
go inward and that play on wordsthat created a bit of a paradox,
especially when you put the wordthe in front of it, the in
movement. You know, if you just, you know,
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I wanted you to sit with that because if I just speed through
it, it's hard to really digest it.
But if you say in movement, it'svery much insinuated that
there's there's movement happening in the body, like
physical movement. Whereas if you go with the in
movement, it's more of like we're the in and movement is
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just an additional word after it.
We're the in the in movement. That's kind of I think the
essence or at least a part of a perspective of what the word
movement could be can also be movement, physical movement,
yoga, asana, that type of stuff could be movement of the mind,
movement of energy. The in part in combination with
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that I think is what gives it that play and that paradox.
And you know, it can be up for interpretation like what it
might mean for each individual person.
And I'm sure, you know, Paul andLeia and even myself will have
different ways in which we wouldverbalize that same thing.
So. At the center of our being there
is this profound, say, essence of of knowing.
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And yoga is it's always been about that.
But what it hasn't really been about, at least in some of the
modern times, is how to go out into the world and actually make
a difference in the world. So going in, we don't we don't
want to just go out and you don't want to just go in like
you want to make sure this is a,a full, you know, well-rounded,
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call it holistic perspective of you know how this works, like go
by going out, you make you make the differences and like you can
define what does going out mean?You know, what does the movement
aspect mean? Obviously, the in part is pretty
simple. You're going in inside, but to
go out or to be in movement, it's like it could be a global
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movement across the world. But how does that really happen?
And to me, that's happening on the level of you are raising
your vibration by going inward. And by going inward.
If you just, if you raise your vibration to the point where you
decide to hide from the world, that doesn't do much good.
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But if you raise your vibration and you live your life and
you're naturally gravitating towards connection, human
interaction, which perhaps turnsinto save a selfless service or
community charity or for example, then you are making a
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difference in the world. Even just by leaving your house,
you're making a difference because your vibration is
raised. Yeah, some, some people might
think they have to go start a charity and it's like there's so
many things they have to to do in order to get that, that main
thing to happen and to raise money for that cause.
But I believe that just by raising your vibration, leaving
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your house, you're doing it. Did you all agree you, Paul and
Leia all agree immediately on the direction or did it
alignment take some time? I think that's a constant work
in progress even now, like differing outlooks on kind of
how it's going to go. But that's, that's the, that's
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the fun part about all this stuff is like, as much as you
pretend that something's set in stone or like a final decision
is happening, that's not ever true.
I mean, even if you painted the walls of certain colour, you
could change the colour. OK, maybe the, the studio's
harder to change, you know, the floor is there, but you could
technically expand that. So what when it is?
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So to me, everything's always malleable.
And so I'm always like throwing out ideas and, you know, kind of
interesting to see what sticks. And some ideas I recognize
aren't meant to be the idea, butmore of just to stimulate more
conversation around the idea to lead to the next evolution of
what the choice would be. So I like the ideas right now of
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like leaning into the end part as much as we can because I just
like how simple it is. You know, there's a lot of
brands out there right now that have movement afterwards.
It's really, really popular. I keep seeing it.
I don't know if it's like chicken or the egg, but ever
since we decided to call ours movement, I just see it
everywhere. But almost all of them have to
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do with moving your body. Ours is less about that and more
about the bigger global movement.
So that's an interesting thing to me that we need to to kind of
work with because you are very much working with the collective
field of what what energy or what definitions, what reality
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has been put into a word. That's kind of why we went away
from empowered a bit empowered. Everybody's empowered.
This yoga studio is empowering. This life coach is empowered.
We kind of looked at that and we're like, OK, let's move away
from empowered. I don't think in is going to go
out of style, no pun intended. So let's let's do something very
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simple that'll never get old. And let's not lean into inward
too much or inside too much. That way it can keep the
connotation of I'm in, I'm in, you know, that's a little
different. That's like an exclamation
point. Often times when, you know, we
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answer the question, if we're invited somewhere and we're
like, hey, are you, are you coming to that, that party, you
know, on, you know, next week I'm in, you know, something like
that. Not just yes, like I'm in, it's
like the ultimate yes. And so I think in that way,
that's that's what I'm leaning into us being like I'm in, you
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know, meaning like I'm in the world.
I'm in this experience. I'm not just going inside to
hide, and I don't think most people are aware that they're
going inside to hide by any means.
But that level of consciousness will arise at some point.
And there are monasteries and ashrams you can go enroll
(19:17):
yourself in if you really need that.
But if you're not going to do that, you're living on planet
Earth with most of the, you know, the population that's
living in a society that's connected by a device and is
more and more leaning into artificial intelligence and
needs more authentic human interaction and needs people in
(19:39):
the world that I mean it. They are empowered.
But they do it by not just goingin, but by choosing to be in.
And that's really exciting to me.
Yeah. OK.
So even though it's a very simple title, in some ways it's
just, it has so much depth, right for me.
(20:04):
And when you simplify language, you know, into duality, you just
look at hot and cold or wet or dry, hard or soft, you know, And
so we have in and out, which is a very simple, easy to digest.
For us human organisms with where we're at and our
(20:25):
consciously easy for everyone todigest on that duality level and
you can such a wide spectrum, you can work with there from all
the way in to all the way out. What do you think is your unique
perspective or skill set that brings to this brand?
My unique perspective perspective skills.
(20:48):
You know, collaborating with a group of people, what is it that
you feel like you bring to the to the movement?
Yeah. So on an individual, so this is
always interesting because you're speaking from the eye
point of view, which there's always a little ego in there.
So you got to like recognize that and still talk through it.
So I resonate as a visionary. I don't see anyone else in our
(21:10):
group. That's as much in the visionary
archetype as I am. So I view my role as once again
noticing patterns, seeing the unseen, a bit of the magician
role. It's kind of what I do in my
yoga classes too. I'm just helping navigate others
(21:35):
process of seeing themselves or seeing the world or seeing
others in a different light or through a different lens.
So that's also my superpower or my unique gift that lends to the
team because I I can I can identify patterns and trends and
(21:55):
I can look at the marketplace and see like Rep.
I can notice pattern. Wow, that's the eighth time I've
seen that this month. Like that stands out to me, you
know, through awareness. So it might just to simplify it
just be like, I think I have a very broad awareness is my main
(22:16):
unique gift, which in turn lendsto a lot of creative ideas and
implementation of maybe what might be considered as not the
societal norm or the expected, whether it's through a class
offering or the pay structure orboldness.
(22:39):
Yeah. And you know, this, it's a
difficult role to be in sometimes because if somebody
doesn't see something, they don't believe in it, but they
have a level of trust with you too.
But then they're hard wired already in some ways to maybe
not believe it. So you got to have patience in
that role and and not be so attached either to push anything
(23:04):
forward with like a, a, a, an agenda.
I think that's the key to that role.
That's great. That makes me think a little bit
about the spirit animal thing, but I don't want to get into
that too much. I don't think maybe that could
be another. Episode I'm a corgi, yeah, I'm a
corgi that herds people. Like.
It's true though, like, yeah, just get just kind of nudge
people in a certain direction, right?
(23:25):
And then maybe they'll go in that direction or maybe they
won't. You know, at the end of the day,
you can't control that. But all you can do is kind of
lead them there. Corgi.
Corgi is my animal. And corgis are little dogs with
the big butts who like the roundup sheep and cattle and
stuff. And like that's, that's my
spirit. And that's your unique
perspective to bring? Yeah.
(23:48):
Was there a moment or moments where this whole thing didn't
almost didn't happen? There was different iterations
of ways it could have happened that would have looked
different, maybe smaller and less big.
So like we have a big project going on.
It's almost finished and it's it's a big place and it has
multi features to massive yoga studios, bigger than you see
(24:13):
most places, way bigger. They can fit 90 people, 70
people. That's a lot of people.
Maybe we even add a third room to that.
And then we also have like the ability to film there.
We also have a restaurant. We also have a nice lawn area
where 50 people could hang out if they wanted to and just
(24:35):
chill. And then we have a recovery
center just meaning like with the sauna, the cold plunge, the
little salt and magnesium pull. So like this turned into a
pretty big project, but originally it went was
potentially going to be in a different direction where we
just had one room, none of the other things, just one yoga
studio that might have fit 50 people, even 40 and that would
(24:57):
have been a yoga teacher training room and that's it.
So it really blossoms. So they could have gone into
that direction pretty easily. But as the visionary, like once
I got the information of possibilities, I started to
really get excited and, and heard people nudge them in a
certain direction. And that's the direction we
(25:19):
went. Although much more expensive
upfront investment, it's still the direction we chose.
And so here we are. And now you can literally walk
around in this place and you've done it, you've been in there,
you can feel it, you can sense it and you can visualize so much
more now There's there's so muchmore unlocked energy now that
(25:43):
you can, you can just see possibilities there.
It's it's pretty cool. Let's Fast forward a little bit.
Studios built, things are rolling, going well.
What, what is your hope for people's experience to be or
what are you trying to help curate an experience for people
so that they can, you know, walkaway with what?
(26:03):
You know, a lot of our branding is around this phrase, lasting
transformation. So we want people to learn or
remember how to level up their life or their state of
consciousness and not just to have a quick fix and go back to
(26:26):
the norm. Quick fix, go back to the norm,
quick fix, go back to the norm. Although that can be effective
too. And sometimes, you know, you
just get fed up with going back to the norm.
So you you decide to change something in your life.
So often community, and this is from somebody like I, I'm not,
I'm not somebody who really had that in my vocabulary for most
(26:49):
of my life. Community.
I had friends of course. And but when I got into yoga, it
didn't feel like it was for community.
It was really for my personal spiritual liberation.
I wouldn't have said that either.
I would have just said, I don't know, I just feel good after
this. I can't explain it.
My mind feels more calm and I feel more expansive and I feel
(27:10):
less fear and less anxious and, and yes, I'm around people when
I'm doing it. So maybe there was a communal
aspect that I didn't really catch on to, but for the most
part, leave me alone while I'm in there.
Like I just wanted to be in my own bubble, but I wouldn't have
done that in my living room online either.
So there was something about being around people that we're
all doing this and maybe an unexplainable or less tangible,
(27:35):
more ethereal type of let's callit A and entrainment of a sense
where they were pulling me alonglike the embodiment of the
teacher was was drawing me out and inspiring me.
I was becoming more confident, not just through these exercises
and stretches and yoga, but through the actual powerful
(27:57):
teacher that had walked the walkand through walk them walking
the walk. It couldn't help but want to
walk the walk too. So step one is get them, get
people that experience where really embodied people are
facilitating the practices. And it's not just, forgive me if
(28:17):
you're in this bracket, but a 21year old that just finished
their 200 hour teacher training and is leading a vinyasa
demonstrating the whole class. And a lot of those people are my
students and I love them. And I, I do think if you do
that, like there's nothing wrongwith that, but you should have
some desire to move from that atsome point and evolve your
teaching into a place where you can stay fully present with the
(28:40):
individuals that are in that room.
And also increase your capacity to hold space on a higher level
so that you are raising your vibration, not just sweating and
stretching. What I want people to walk out
of there with is like a real embodied experience because they
got to see it, feel it, taste it, touch it, sense it all
(29:02):
through a masterful experience. And then through the integrity
of the architecture or landscapeof the in movement platform,
people are able to continue to connect with community.
(29:25):
So the in person community is ispretty simple to me.
It just happens through really awesome classes and people want
to keep coming back and they want to share it with their
friends. That's what I do.
If I love a dessert somewhere, Iwant somebody to taste it.
If I love an experience somewhere, I want somebody to to
know about it and I want them toget credit for that a little
(29:46):
bit. You know, it's part of the
reason. But I also want them to be
helped. So I think the in person on the
ground level of that is pretty simple.
But as far as the online architecture, I want to really
allow people to come to Bali. Those people who come here for
one month and then they leave and they might want to come back
for another month in the next year, they can come back again.
(30:07):
But they don't, they don't lose themselves, right?
They don't lose themselves to the norm state change shift.
They're able to level up. They can keep levelling up.
And we support them in that process.
And honestly, they support us inthat process too.
You know, I mean, I'm just a talking head if I don't have
(30:30):
people to listen to me as well. So it goes both ways.
So that entrainment pulling people, you know, it's happening
all the time. And I think that's a, that's a
key, the key factor of communitycommunities entrainment, like we
may not fully realize it on the deeper level, but we we
(30:51):
gravitate towards, we need it for evolution.
We feel more whole with it and that's it's totally possible
through, through some of the, the, the 10,000 hours plus that
many of us have put in. I think 'cause it's got to start
there. What is this space asking of you
(31:15):
now as it comes into this world?It is asking me to ask for help
a little bit because I think there's an organizational aspect
to to what is happening now thatfor exponential growth on a
(31:39):
higher level to be realized, I'mgoing to have to get more
organized. And I also have to surrender to
the fact that I'm never going todo that.
I'm just never going to do that in a way that allows optimal
growth to happen. And luckily I already have
support around me. And, you know, Rhea, for
(32:01):
example, you know, and, you know, she just keeps levelling
up and, you know, she's Bolognese assistant.
She's amazing. And, you know, and I've had,
I've just had, you know, all, you know, the team.
You know, we have a great team. We have a great team.
But also whether it's adding to that team or allowing more
opportunity for people to rise within, you know, what's
(32:22):
happening. So, yeah, like, you know, asking
for help is an interesting way to say that receiving support
might be a better way to say that receiving support.
I, I, I changed my answer to thereceiving support.
I think it sounds a little bit better than rather asking for
help because again, I think no matter what, on a personal
(32:42):
level, life is good. But if you're truly trying to
affect change and like, what is this space asking from me now at
this point, that's what it's asking for me, right?
This isn't just about me stayingin a higher vibration anymore.
You know, I think I've built up a lot of resilience in my own
system to have ups and downs andknow how to get back up again.
(33:07):
But you know, what about others,you know, this space allows
that. So when you say space, it just
takes me into the exponential aspect of the movement of the
world of at least this communitywhere it starts.
And then, you know, it's starting to affect on a bigger
level, like, you know, if we won't really want to affect
change where people, you know, it, let's say yoga's dying down.
(33:30):
I know some people think that, you know, that the trend of yoga
is like Pilates is replacing yoga studios and this is
happening around the world. They're going to pay $30.00 for
a drop in class. You'd rather take something
that's going to just blast you into some hard workout.
Almost, right? That's the embodied thing that's
missing. If you have a truly embodied
(33:52):
leader or teacher or whatever you want to call it, and they
are facilitating an experience where you get to level up and
it's obvious to you that you're levelling up, you're not just
exercising, people will pay for that.
So when you say space, it makes me think of that experience of
like the overall, The overall, what is it when you put your
(34:18):
narrative, It's the overall narrative, which we did a
podcast on. It's the overall narrative
around the word yoga in general.And if you really want to change
that as well and to have the stock be increasing rather than
decreasing, because I've definitely seen a change on that
for the last 20 plus years, thenyeah, it's going to really have
(34:40):
to happen through that level of whatever I said, which I forgot.
You said a lot. I know, but it is going to have
to happen on an exponential level where we are doing it
together. Basically, we're doing it
together. Yeah.
So, you know, it makes me think a bit of the where it kind of
(35:03):
stemmed from to some degree, theEmpowered studio, you know, we
played with that word empowered for a while, Empowered X and all
these things. And even though the name is
different, the element of empowerment or being empowered
or the journey of empowerment isall still infused within the
community, within the mission, within the vision, within the
(35:23):
experience that we want to cultivate for people.
Not only just for the people that show up as you know, let's
say clients or customers, but also people who want to get
involved, be a teacher at the studio, you know, the staff,
whatever it is, is finding ways in which we can still empower
just the, the, the entire team, the collective, the people that
come in that can provide the help, which helped ultimately
(35:46):
helps to empower ourselves as well.
So just thinking of that word, even though we've moved away
from it, we didn't really move it.
It's just kind of under the rug and still present.
Yeah, because with the word empowered and just leaving it at
that, it's very buzzy and strongand it's there's no insinuation
there that you're going to stay with them.
It's like our job is to get you empowered and then you're on
(36:07):
your own, which isn't bad. It's just, is that enough?
Because the nature of life is tooscillate or fluctuate, and so
of course they're going to fluctuate from empowered to
something else. Below the line of empowerment
from the David Hawkins map of consciousness, at least
empowered is where you got to get in order to make choices for
(36:31):
your life. And then you can start to reach
all those beautiful layers of acceptance and joy and love and
bliss and whatever else you wantto call it.
Enlightenment reasoning is even considered like a really high
vibration above empowerment or courage, which are considered
the same vibrational level. So yeah, it's like, hey, just
pat you on the butt. Hey, you're empowered, go out
there and get them, you know, But the truth is, is the world
(36:53):
isn't, it's not too accepting ofempowered individuals, right?
Every advertisement you see and every device that you hold is
just programs are designed to disempower you, to pull your
power out of you a little bit and give them power to sell you
this, you know, so the in movement actually what a
(37:16):
beautiful concept where you know, we have to define it and
help people to see see it. But the intention is there.
You go inside and become empowered and then you go out.
And this movement is a communityacross the world that will
support this growth for the longhaul, long term, forever and
(37:40):
ever and ever and karmically transcending the next
generations and those generations after and after and
after. It's like that ripple effect.
Right. The ripple effect, that actually
is a huge part of it. It's part of the brand as well.
Why we have a? Little the logo.
It's a ripple. Yeah, we that's right.
Is it a ripple or a nipple? Well, it's a ripple that's
(38:01):
either going in or it's going out or it's going both,
depending on the way that you look at it.
Yeah. Which is kind of the beauty of
the paradox to some degree as well.
Yeah. Great.
So yeah, let's wrap it up a little bit.
I'm just thinking of, you know, the people are like, oh, this is
cool. I'm excited.
I'm in Bali or I'm not in Bali. Like what can I, how can I like,
stay on top of these things? Like, how can I like get
(38:23):
involved now or like, what can I, you know, is there anything
that I can do at this particulartime after listening to this
podcast? Like cool, this is all exciting
but like do I have to wait till April or like what's going on?
I would always point people to our new Instagram.
Yeah, that's the first thing I would do.
And then you can start to feel the like we're teasing, like a
(38:45):
lot of the tidbits and founding information and the branding is
really strong. And eventually that's going to
be where everywhere, where everything goes.
And if you're in Bali, we'll probably add a a second account
for the Bali location so that we'll have like this online
platform that's really strong Instagram handle and then a
(39:06):
second one that's more based offthe Ubud location.
That's that's what I would say, yeah.
What I would say is the in movement.com, the website
itself, if you go there, there'sa wait list, sign up simple that
you can kind of just jump onto our newsletter and you will be
informed how things kind of evolve.
When the studio is ready. Any kind of events that are
happening, trainings, these types of things, opportunities,
(39:29):
stuff like that will all be kindof expressed and shared
obviously through Instagram because that's obviously a
portal that people love. But if you're like, you know
what, I just want to actually have something the word sent to
me and I don't actually have to log into that platform, then
yeah, just go to the in movement.com and you can just
sign up to the wait list and youknow you'll get sent the
details. Yeah, there might be some cool
like promotions or packages or like fun giveaways.
(39:52):
Who knows what's going to happenthere, so.
Yeah. That would be what I would
recommend for sure. And then on, yeah, just keep
listening to the podcast, of course, because we're going to
continue to talk about these things.
You know, we'll have the other founders coming in and we'll
obviously continue to create valuable content for you guys,
just for, you know, the concept of yoga, of looking in, the
introspection, just, you know, life in general, lifestyle, all
(40:13):
these things is really what thispodcast is going to be about,
making it fun, something to listen to.
But a lot of the authenticity and the presence and the
embodiment within this podcast is what I actually really love
doing. Yeah, you know, we did.
This is probably the first time that I've actually asked
questions, like structured questions and like years of
doing this podcast, which did feel a little off.
And you, you know, but at the same time, you know, structure
(40:36):
is not a terrible thing. It's, you know, brings truth.
So to me, it's all transparency and just being as open as
possible. And and you know, as we're as
we're growing and learning and sharing things, we're, you know,
also being transparent in that way.
And I think everybody learns from those experiences.
You know, we also welcome feedback, which is kind of where
we're at now. So if you have any thoughts or
(40:56):
feedback, you want to reach out.You can do that through the
Instagram handle. You can obviously reach out to
Byron Yoga Michael Yoga dot PT Otherwise, yeah, we'd love to
hear from you guys. But that's it for me.
Yeah. I mean, should I, should I hit
this button we created a while ago?
Sure. OK, so this button, here we go.
I'm going in. So that's a Byron from probably
(41:21):
like God, maybe like 3-4 months ago now.
Yeah, inspiring little planting the seeds.
Inspiring little birds let's, you know, do the other one.
Let's do another one. We've got a few.
Let's see. Oh.
That's pretty good. That was nice.
That was me and Michael both, bythe way.
What's this one? I don't remember, that's a
little random. Last one and.
(41:42):
Last one to finish it off. That was nice.
That's perfect. What a way to end.
Thanks Byron. Appreciate you.
Thanks for having me on, Michael, and I'm excited to host
some of these too. And to to go into this new.
It's not even a chapter. It's like a new, completely new
(42:03):
beyond a book, even like a wholenew world.
Like an evolution. It's a whole new world.
Yeah, Aladdin would love that. All right, thanks everyone for
tuning in this week and I'll speak to you next week.
Take care for now, Ciao. I'm going in.
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