Trey Calloway, Underrated Bands, and Country Music News

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Tony Scott (00:05):
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Tiffany Mason (00:50):
Mason hey, Jay, ready for another wild Wednesday
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Before we get started, myfriend, let me tell you what the

(01:15):
question of the day is.
Question of the day Feel freeto put this in the comments.
Folks.
Bands that should have beenbigger, underrated bands, we
should say so.
Put that in the comments.
Folks.
Bands that should have beenbigger, underrated bands, we
should say so.
Put that in the comments.
We will get to that a littlelater this evening, Miss Tiffany
.
We have a special guest with ustonight.

I know I'm very excited.

Jay Franze (01:39):
We have a country music recording artist.
We have Trey Calloway, and I'mgoing to go ahead and bring him
on right now what's up y'all?

Trey Calloway (01:48):
how y'all doing?
How are you, buddy, doing?
Fantastic man.
I'm I'm glad to be, I'm justhappy to be here, jay, I'm
holding on for dear life, buddywe are happy to have you.

Jay Franze (01:59):
We are, sir.
You've been here before, sothere's no need for the
pleasantries.

You're family now I'm a veteran.
Now you are Pulling my hat down.

Jay Franze (02:10):
We will be picking on you all night long, all right
, sounds good.
Sounds good, but before we getinto the picking, why don't you
just go ahead and start off bytelling us about your new music?

So I'm here telling you guys about my brand
new single.
I got a song coming out calledyour Love is Safe With Me on the
7th and, man, I'm super excitedabout this one.
It's kind of coming on the tailof me just getting married back
in October.
It's just perfect timing.
Valentine's Day love song.
Wrote it with my buddy, david,and I'm really excited for
everybody to hear it.
Been getting good responselately Already.

(02:42):
It's been getting good response.

So now can I ask a question?
Of course I listened to yourepisode with jay.
When you were on before and youmet in july, you had an hour
session.
You co-wrote your christmassong yeah so now you got your
valentine's day song.
Did you meet in december ornovember for that, and did you

(03:04):
also crank this out in an hour?

So yeah, actually I believe this song was written
before the Christmas song waswritten.
So the Christmas song was kindof like hey, trey, we need a
Christmas song.
You got to write one.
We've already booked you therecording session.
You're going to be there in twodays, so you know, call up one
of your amazing songwriterbuddies and write the song.

(03:29):
So that's what we did.
And I mean, you know, I wantedto write a song that wasn't, you
know, jingle bells, jinglebells, jingle all the way.
I wanted to write somethingthat had some heart to it.
So we wrote Christmas with youand wrote it with JP Williams
the guy that wrote Horses inHeaven with me as well.
It turned out great.
I'm so proud of that Christmassong.
That's a Christmas song I'mreally proud of.
But your Love Is Safe With Mewas actually written beforehand,

(03:51):
I believe recorded before too.
We've had it recorded for awhile now.
It's just, you know, once you,when you start working on
projects, the recordings theystack up.
You know you're kind of sittingon a bunch of them and you're
saying, hey, this is going to bethe next single, and then this
single, after that A lot of thesongs from the One In man album.
I was sitting on them for halfa year going.

(04:15):
I'm so ready for the world tohear these?

Jay Franze (04:17):
You mentioned JP last time.
I've got to call him up and gethim on here.
I've known him forever, We'vebeen in the studio together and
he's just not come on the showyet.

We'll call him up tonight.

Jay Franze (04:27):
Yeah.

See what he's up to.

Jay Franze (04:29):
Remind me a little later.
We'll ring him up right nowSounds good.
That'd be funny.
What studio did you record thesong in?

So we did your Love is Safe With Me at Saxman,
where we did the Wanted manalbum as well.
I'm working on a new album now,man.
We jumped right back into it assoon as the Wanted man album
came out.
We had your Love Is Safe WithMe, and we've got two other
songs in the can that aregetting ready to be released as
well.
So, man, we didn't take anykind of break or anything.

(04:57):
Jay, they're working me Like Itold you, they're working me to
death man, Loving every secondof it.

Jay Franze (05:09):
man I this is what I've always wanted and dreamed
of and worked hard my whole lifefor so it's, it's starting to
roll.

Is the same team on this project?
It is, it is, you know we're.
We're a weld old machine atthis point.
You know, I'm proud of all thepeople that are in my corner and
they work really hard for me.

I have a podcast as well.
Trey and I interview peopleabout songs and memories that
come with them and sometimes wetalk about, you know, when they
sing along to the song orwhatever right, and you, being
the artist, you have to performthe songs a million times.
So thinking about your Love isSafe With Me.
What are some of the lyrics?
And if I can make it two parts,does that make you miss your

(05:43):
wife more?
Or is that kind of comfortingfor you?

Yes and no.
So to answer your firstquestion, my favorite line in
that song is in the chorus,where it says when I'm loving
you over and over, when we'remarried and children get older.

Tony Scott (05:57):
I mean.

I think that's the ultimate test of whether
love is going to last.
Am I going to be there whenyou're old and gray you know
what I mean and you can't hardlywalk anymore and you need
somebody to help you pick upyour fork or whatever after
you're done eating?
Or are you going to be therefor me and and am I going to be
there for you?
I think that's the ultimatetest of love and I think I have

(06:19):
that with Raina.

If you stay married for long enough, you may
be the reason the other onecan't walk.

Jay Franze (06:24):
I mean, she's definitely the reason, the other
one's great she's.

She's definitely going to outlive me, so I want
to answer the second part ofyour question.

Tony Scott (06:36):
Please.
It makes me miss her very, verymuch.

I miss her all the time because I think I told
Jay before, she lives in MyrtleBeach, south Carolina.
I live here in Nashville.
We both are.
While we're young, we'rechasing our dreams and trying to
make our careers happen.
She's a civil engineer.
She's trying to conquer theworld via the corporate ladder
and I'm trying to conquer theworld via a guitar.

(06:58):
You know what I mean.
So it's a tough life that herand I are living, but we support
each other and we're in thistogether.
And then, to comment on what wewere just talking about, she's
definitely going to outlive me.
She gets upset when I bring itup.
She's like no baby, you have tolive to be 100.
And I'm like there's no way.

Jay Franze (07:17):
I'm shooting for 110 .

I'm shooting for dude, I'll be lucky if I hit 80,
.
Jay, If I get to 80, I'll behappy.

Jay Franze (07:24):
I want to be 110.
That's my goal.

Me too.
Well, not to mention I have sixyears on her.
She's six years younger than me, okay so?

Jay Franze (07:32):
I'm also dealing with that.

I'm also dealing with that too.

Jay Franze (07:35):
You met when you were 16?
I remember that story.

No, no, she was just out of college, though.
She was just out of collegewhen her and I met.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have anagreement in our marriage where
I have always told him I diefirst.

You can make it without me, but I can't make
without you.

I'm like you die, I die first.
I think she feels that same way, I think she feels that same
way.

Jay Franze (07:59):
You know, it's like it's close to valentine's day,
isn't it?
Look at you guys.
I'm talking about my.
I'm just glad she's far away.
Babe, if you're listening, it'sjust a joke.

He's going to come home with a dozen roses and
he's going to be serenading.

Your love is safe with me all the way, I had
somebody ask me if they thinkit's going to be the ultimate
wedding song.
Hey, if people want to play itat their wedding, that would
make me so happy.
I mean honestly God.
If you get one of those weddingsongs, man, you're in like
Flynn, you know.

Tony Scott (08:33):
You're in.
You remember that song.

You remember that song?
I loved her first.

Jay Franze (08:39):
I held her.

That was like a big, giant wedding song the
Daddy-Daughter.
Dance Heartland.
Heartland was the name of theband.

Tony Scott (08:46):
It's a great tune, man.
They still play that song atweddings.

I still play that song.
That's the father-daughterdance of the century, right
there.

Jay Franze (08:55):
Do you have any plans on moving in together at
any point?

You know, of course we do.
Basically, what we keep sayingis you know?
We keep saying, is you know?
We keep saying, hey, you know,let's meet back up, let's, let's
reconvene at the end of theyear and see what's going on.
And it's like at the end ofeach year it's like, man trey,
your career is really gettingsome momentum, you're really
doing well.
Her career is really gainingsome momentum.
You're really doing well, baby,all right.

(09:23):
Well, maybe we can make itanother year.

Tony Scott (09:25):
Maybe we can just keep doing what we're doing for
a year.

Maybe we can do it for another year.

It's in those hard times and supporting one
another, that you kind of show,that commitment and that love
grows a little bit deeper.

So I say kudos, tiffany.
Her and I are closer.
She's my best friend, I mean,we're closer than I've ever been
with anybody in my life, andeven with the distance, you know
what I mean.
So that's how you know.
The distance ain't really athing, it's just what it is,
because her and I talk the wayyou and I we're all talking
right now.

(09:58):
We talk every day.
Yeah, she's my best friend, youknow.
So the distance does hurt andwe would love to live together.
It's like let's do this now,let's sacrifice now, while we're
young still and can really dothis, because I don't think she
wants to live with a 70-year-oldman who is bitter and regrets
that he gave up on his dream.

Jay Franze (10:20):
Oh for sure, you know what?

I mean, I think that's also in her mind too,
that she's like I don't want tobe the reason he gives up.

I've got to be honest.
I mean I feel a little jealous,like every reunion's got to be
kind of amazing yeah.

I mean, she's the best, especially being the
movie one.
I can't divulge too much, butshe's the best.
Do you have any kids watching,Jay?
No Kids, it's time to go to bed.
Time to go to bed.

Jay Franze (10:46):
Why do you think we don't start until 10?

I don't know.
We never know what's going tocome out of Jay's mouth, tiffany
takes this show on a left turnalmost every week.

Tiffany, where were you the last time we were
here?
She?
Was fired, sleeping probably,oh no we fire her once a week.
You guys are on Is it twostrikes?
You guys are already on yoursecond strike.

The 26th strike yeah.
Very cool, you can't quit me.

Jay Franze (11:15):
No these are great questions.

These are great questions.
These are great.
I appreciate you guys asking.

Jay Franze (11:20):
Sir, we love having you here.
Do you think you'd stick aroundfor the rest of our show
tonight?

I don't see why not.
I don't see why not.

Jay Franze (11:27):
You can stick around , we'll call you a co-host.

I'll go to sleep.
If you're talking about, we'regoing to be on air until 1
o'clock in the morning.
Well, yeah, it's only four morehours, don't worry about it,
buddy, I might wake up in theend of the show and say bye to
everybody.

Jay Franze (11:45):
This is not eight seconds tonight, buddy, it's
eight hours Can you hold?
On for eight hours.

Can you ride this thing for eight hours?
Four hours is our normal show.

Jay Franze (11:53):
Oh yeah, that's right, I got it.
Let's do it, I'm ready, let'sdo four hours.
All right, Miss Tiffany, let'sget into this.
Last week we talked about theGrammys.
We had our predictions, we hadour thoughts.
Well, obviously, those timeshave passed and Trey's already
closing his mouth there.

I'll wait until you ask me a question about it.
It's going to be rough, buddy.
It's going to be rough.
I'll wait until you ask me aquestion about it All right.

Jay Franze (12:22):
First thing we're going to talk about is album of
the year.
Album of the year we talkedabout all the people in.
I'm not going to get too farinto that tonight, but it was
won by beyonce, do we think?
Cowboy carter is the album ofthe year tiffany, you go first,
that's all you that's all you.

I just say garbage.
Two thumbs down.
I'm trying to look up that memethat I sent you earlier.

No, I have to see this meme.

I'm working on it .

Jay Franze (12:53):
This is why we keep her around, buddy.

Well, I'll put my two cents in, please.
I like this Texas Hold'em song.
I think it's a pretty good song.

Tony Scott (13:00):
Yes.

I think Beyonce is an incredibly talented person
and I'm being as genuine withthis answer as I possibly can be
.
I've thought a lot about it.
I've talked a lot about this.
I think that she is one of themost talented artists that's
probably ever lived.
I think she deserves her fameand she deserves her fortunes
and she deserves to be where sheis and who she is.

(13:22):
I think that the main reasonpeople are upset about her
winning the Album of the Year incountry is because she has
devoted her entire life andcareer to the genre, the way,
say, lainey Wilson or ChrisStapleton or any of them, any

(13:43):
country artists that's been incountry their whole life.
I think even she, hopefully,could agree with what I'm saying
.
You know what I mean, so that's, I'll tell you what, trey?

when you turned around, you got that hat on, and
when you turned around, thathair.
Oh it's.

I mean look, look people's got to like you, just
for the hair it's.

It is insanely long.
Now it's it's full.
The mullet is mulleting.
The mullet is mulleting my uh,I it would.

The look is I wear a ball cap when I do
interviews and stuff, because ifI wear a cowboy hat it's like
you know I'm sitting heretalking to you.
Nobody can can see my face.
So the hair in the cowboy hatis the look.

Tony Scott (14:27):
Got it.

I feel kind of embarrassed sometimes when I
walk into a place that's notcountry music related at all, oh
sure.
Like the bank, for example, andI'm like no hat and I'm just
straight rocking the mullet.
I'm like, I know, I know I havea mullet rocking the mullet.

I'm like I know, I know I have a mullet, you know
that's so interesting because Isaw this guy and he had these
like leather blue loafers on.
He had his you know slickoutfit on and I thought I bet in
your crowd, like the peoplethat you hang out with, like
probably boating or golfingbuddies.
Yeah, I'm sure that this islike normal attire, yeah, but
you're like in with the generalpublic right now absolutely
absolutely it don't match.

Well, that's you know, that's what I found out
about being what being agrown-up is half of.
Being a grown-up is just kindof you.
You find your thing and youjust do it for like the rest of
your life.
You know what I mean.
You just it's like it's notlike high school at all where
you just wear what all yourfriends are wearing.
You just you get to be an adult.
You pick what you want to wearand you're like this is me.

I'm this person.

I always wore jeans and boots and buckles.
I never was anything other thanwhat I am, even back in high
school.
The mullet wears you.
Though you don't wear themullet, the mullet wears you.

Jay Franze (15:49):
You missed it, Jay.

I had a mustache a couple weeks ago and everybody
on my team was just like no, Ithought you were no, let's see
if I can find, see if I can finda picture okay.

Jay Franze (15:53):
Well, in the meantime, I found this meme.

Oh boy, okay, and it says might as well says
congratulations, george stray,on hip-hop artists of the year
2025.

See, that's the kind of that's the kind, that's
the kind of, that's the kind of,that's the kind of positive
kind of, you know, poking fun ateach other we should be able to
do.
Of course, I think nobody.
I think nobody hates Beyonce.
I don't think it's personalagainst her at all.
I think it has to do withpeople feel like she has not put

(16:26):
her dues in with country music.

You know what, trey, this is me.
I'll give you a.

That's me with the stache.

Oh, my oh no, there, it is right there.
Oh no, it looks like an.

Instagram filter.
I know I immediately.
I immediately was like, well,no, I rocked the mustache for
about two weeks.
My wife I got a funny story, soaround Christmas I went up to
Ohio that's where my wife's from.
I went up to Ohio to spend theChristmas with her family and
she booked me a barbershopappointment so I would look good

(17:02):
for all of the festivitiesduring Christmas.
And I come walking into hermom's house with her stepdad,
who we'd gone to the barber, wholet me do it, I might add, let
me do the mustache.
He sat there and watched me doit.

He knew all along it was a bad idea.

Well he said well , it was the barber's idea.
The barber's become a buddy ofmine.
I know that barber up in Ohiopretty good now and he's like
man, you ought to do themustache.
All the country artists arerocking the stache now and I was
like I don't know, I'll get introuble.
So he talked me into it.
I did it.
I walked into their house andmy wife looked at me and said
you Christmas.

That's a true wife right there Christmas and
you know she loves it.

It got to be after about a week or something.
I would look at her and sayit's starting to grow on you.
It started growing and she'slike she's like I love you.
She would always go back tothat.
She would say I love you.
I don't love the mustache, so Igrew it back.
I I got tired of people pickingon me about it, so I grew back.
I grew back the beard.
I'm just a beard guy, I guessmy husband was thinning very
badly when, when we were young.

I'm sure he loves you and yeah, I, we joke that I
made the hair fall out there'sno dough so anyway, so he's
gonna, he's gonna shave it alloff, you know.
And so we were in the in thebathroom together.
I said, baby, this is a realtest of our love.
And he looked at me.
He goes this, this is a test ofour love.

(18:34):
Like, well, I mean, I love youno matter what.

Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's kind of funny if
I start if my hair I mean I'vegot a full head of hair I mean
my hair's all here.
You know, if I start, if Istart to lose it though and it's
like, and it's like going up onme it's all going, I'm just
going to.

Jay Franze (18:53):
Yes, it is.
I mean dude bald is beautiful.

Jay Bald is beautiful.
You know what I'm saying Ifyou're, I would say, be the guy
who just rocks the Jason Statham.
You know what I mean Just rockthe Jason Statham.

Jay Franze (19:07):
I said bald or gray, either way it's staying Bruce
Willis.

Look at all the awesome bald guys Ben Diesel, so
many great bald guys.

Jay Franze (19:16):
You know what I mean See, that's what I'm doing, I'm
setting my mark.

Planting my flag right there, buddy, and that's
basically what I'm doing withthe long hair is I'm just
growing my hair out one moretime before it all turns gray on
me.

Jay Franze (19:26):
Well, you can.

Tony Scott (19:28):
I'm just going to have while it's still brown.

I'm going to have gray hair and then, or I'm
going to have long hair and thenit'll be, gray, and I'll cut it
all off, all right, let's closeout this Grammy thing real
quick.

Jay Franze (19:50):
I think part of the reason players, she's not doing
the typical things.
I think in a lot of ways thatcould have added to some variety
and stuff, and I don't discounther talents I just don't like
the the album.

Yeah, that's all right well, three people in the
room, it would be threedifferent, three different
opinions.
My opinion is I'm used tohip-hop Beyonce.
I'm not trying to feel nocountry Beyonce For me, it's
just what I'm used to hearing.
I don't like the change.

I'll stand on what I said.
She's one of the most talentedartists of our generation, if
not of all time.
Honestly, she deserves theaccolade she's gotten.
Your meme is funny, but itreally your.
Your meme is funny, but itreally is the same thing.
If george straight said I'mgonna make a hip-hop record,
made one and then wasimmediately given hip-hop album

(20:35):
of the year at the grammys, youdon't think hip-hop fans would
be upset.
I think they would.
Oh for sure.
That's all I'm saying, and I Ithink, if she thinks about it
rationally, she has tounderstand that's where the
animosity is coming from.
There's a lot of people in thecountry music world who listen
to R&B and hip hop.

Tony Scott (20:54):
Sure.

The divide is not there.
Most of my friends that listento country also listen to hip
hop too.
Myself, I listen to hip-hop.
I listen to heavy metal.

Tony Scott (21:05):
I listen to hip-hop, I listen to you know, and the
Beyonce thing, the Beyonce thingis the only thing that really
got any flack.

But do you know?
The Rolling Stones won rockalbum of the year.
They're in their 80s.
You're telling me there's notanother rock band.

Jay Franze (21:19):
Well, you know what the biggest disappointment of
the Grammys were this year.

I didn't watch them.
To be honest with you, I didn'twatch.

Jay Franze (21:26):
Tiffany, what was the biggest disappointment of
the person who did not win?
I don't know, Use your words,taylor.

Swift, oh Taylor Swift.
Everybody thought Taylor shouldhave won Album of the Year.
Correct, Absolutely.

Jay Franze (21:43):
There's no doubt in my mind that woman should have
won.

Yeah, so do they only do one album of the year
for all genres?

Jay Franze (21:50):
No, there was a country album of the year.
Okay, so Beyonce won countryalbum of the year there was a
rap album of the year.

Yeah, so Taylor Swift.
She was up for what pop albumof the year?

Tony Scott (22:02):
So I mean.

I've not listened to that album, but I actually
had a conversation with my buddy, justin Bilton, and he's a bass
player of Three Doors Down.
He and I write quite a bit.
He's very in tune with all thatstuff and he's like Taylor
Swift's album was a masterpiece.
This last album was amasterpiece.
I haven't listened to it.
I know my wife loves a lot ofthe songs off of it.

Yeah, I would definitely call myself a Swiftie
.
Yeah, yeah, I like.

Taylor Swift.
I've always had a lot ofrespect for her.
I don't think I'm her targetdemographic, you know what I
mean, but I appreciate.
From one musician to anothermusician, I respect her art very
much.
She's obviously talented.
She's obviously incrediblytalented.
She's the biggest artist of alltime.
There's no doubt she has to becalled the biggest artist of all
time.
Oh, she's awesome.

(22:47):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (22:47):
I agree.
I mean, if she's not there yet,she's going to be there soon.

In the podcasting space, if you're using
copywritten music, you get yourhands slapped and you get your
episodes taken down, and so,actually, right now, the
National Music PublishersAssociation has asked Spotify to
remove thousands of unlicensedsongs from podcasts on its
platform, and it includes peoplelike taylor swift, kenric lamar

(23:15):
, justin bieber, michael jackson, and they are let's see, are
they responded, stating theyregularly receive takedown
requests and they act promptly.
So what happens is and Ithought that there were like
bots out there looking for thisstuff- there are Okay, okay.
So when they spot it, they justtake the episodes down.
They don't usually take thewhole podcast down, unless the

(23:38):
intro and outro have it.
Then it's on every singleepisode, so then of course you
would take it down.

Yeah.

But I think that's great, that they're
protecting you guys in thatfashion.

Jay Franze (23:46):
Yeah, I mean.

I got a slight problem with it.
Yeah, yeah, I I'm interested tohear what jay says too.
I I think I'll go last allright.

Jay Franze (23:54):
Slight problem with that is we get trey on the show
here tonight and trey wants usto play his new single, so we
play his new single and thenspotify takes the show down
that's, that's what I was gonnasay.

I think sometimes some fishy stuff goes on, like
you may have my express verbalconsent, like hey, yeah, let's
play the new song and I'll giveit to you, and then the song
will get played and it'll gettaken down, and it's like
sometimes on social media it'slike you're posting your own
song on your own page, you getflagged, and you get flagged and

(24:28):
it's like so who do you thinkowns this music?
Right, who really owns it?
The question is, at the end ofthe day, who does really own the
music, who really owns themusic?
So there's no telling, in termsof conditions, what we sign.

Yeah.

But it's the nature of the beast now.
It's the nature of the musicbusiness.
The physical sale of music ispfft.

Okay well, music business the physical sale of
music is is okay.
Well, that kind of goes intothis next one that I want to
bring up, so I'm going to read alittle bit of this.
On the 31st, bipartisanlawmakers introduced the
american music fairness act,aiming to require amfm stations
to compensate artists for theirairing of their songs.
Currently in in the US, theonly democratic nation where
artists are not paid for AM FMradio play, proponents argue

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that this legislation addressesan outdated loophole that
deprives artists of significantroyalties annually.
Broadcasting organizationsoppose the bill, contending it
imposes additional financialburdens on local radio stations.
The proposed legislation Idon't know why I can't say that
includes a sliding royalty scalefor smaller stations based on

(25:39):
revenue, with largerorganizations subject to rates
determined by the CopyrightRoyalty Board.
I would love to hear what youguys think about this.

Jay Franze (25:48):
You can take it from the artist's point of view, but
I have two issues with this.
There's performing rightsorganizations that collect money
that they pay the songwriters.
You get your BMI, your ASCAP,your CSAC.
However, these radio stations,nightclubs, even your barbershop
that you were referencing, ifthey want to play music in their
shop, they have to pay a fee toBMI, ASCAP, CSAC in order to be

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able to play that music.

Wait, can I ask for clarity?
So I'm a barber, I'm cuttinghair and I'm like, oh, let me
throw on a Spotify station andthe music comes on.
I'm supposed to be paying toplay that music.

You're supposed to be.
Oh interesting, You're usingthat music to create an
atmosphere.

Jay Franze (26:34):
Right to bring in your customers and that type of
stuff.
And if you see on their doorthere's usually a sticker that
says BMI or ASCAP.
That type of thing, yeah, okay.
But they're collecting the moneyand then they divvy that money
up and pay it to the songwritersor the publishing companies
that they see fit to pay.
The problem is, the way you cutthat pie up is not necessarily

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a perfect match to what wasplayed on the radio or what was
sold in a store.
So that's just my view from theproduction side of the world,
Trey.
What's your view from the art?

side.
I just want to comment that Idon't think that traditional
radio can take too many moreblows.
Basically, I feel like thismight be the final nail in the
coffin of the traditional radiostations, which makes me really
sad Because I understandtechnology changes.
The music business isn't goinganywhere.

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It's not going anywhere.
There's always going to be guysand girls like me out there
making music, no-transcripttraditional radio has been

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beaten up.
You know the streaming servicesare killing them because it's
like I can find what I want tolisten to when I want to listen
to it, at any time, anywhere inthe world.
You know, I don't claim to knowall the ins and outs.
I mean, I'm sure if there'smoney that's not going to the
artist, that should be going tothe artist.
I definitely think that itshould be.
I definitely think it should begoing to pay them.

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But I think I see where theradio stations are coming from
by saying, hey, we can't affordto do this.

Jay Franze (28:19):
You know what I mean ?
Well, they can't pay on a perplay basis, because they're
running off of advertising money.

When the advertising money dries up,
radio goes away, basically up,radio goes away.

Basically, do you think that the lawmakers are
maybe not familiar enough withthe landscape that they think,
oh, streaming makes so muchmoney per play.
We'll do the same thing withradio.

They don't understand the music, the music
business is insanely complex andI think it's been designed to
be that way you know there's.

I have a lot of money in it now Absolutely.

I'm just now starting to somewhat grasp the
way it really works, you know,and it's it is a very tricky
business and I think there's alot of people there's a lot of
people who don't understandwhat's going on because they're
not in that world, they don'tlive in it every day.
I think a lot of politiciansprobably fall into that category

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.
The game didn't really change.
The medium changed.
It went from radio to socialmedia.
You don't go out on a radiotour anymore and give the DJ a
couple hundred bucks to playthis guy's song for the next
three weeks.
Now people will go out and getinfluencers to clip their new
song and put it in all theirvideos and that gets the song

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trending.
And so the game did not change.
Everybody thinks the musicbusiness has changed in this
crazy way.
It really hasn't.
The way of turning somebodyinto a superstar has not changed
.
The medium changed, the spacein which you do that has changed
.
It's this kind of stuff.
What we're doing now.
This is what it is now.

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It's like.
This is what the music businesshas moved to now and personally
I'm here for it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like the fact that I can liveor die.
I like the fact that I can liveor die.
I like the fact that I can liveor die on my own decisions.
You know, I made this careerchoice.
I put this song out.
I dressed like this.

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I said these things I like thatyou can live and die on that
hill.

Now well I do appreciate the streaming
services, but every once in awhile I almost miss it getting
interrupted by humans.
Yep, you know, and I'm likewhere are the djs?
Like, every once in a while, Ijust want some djs well, the dj
used to recommend music yep, Ilike some of the banter and I
like the entertainment and Ilike the two cents and me too,

(30:43):
you know the dumb gimmicky stuffthat they do from time to time
that shocks you like I had I hadan interesting conversation, uh
some time ago with a former dj.

He had left his gig.
I won't tell anybody's name oranything, but he had left his
gig.
He was saying that ai is goingto replace the djs eventually
and I was like, really, youthink they're going to be able
to talk and banter with eachother and stuff, and you know,
do I think that AI will one dayhave the ability to do that?

(31:14):
Yes, I do.
We're already there, buddy.
Do I think anybody will care?
I don't.
That's what makes me think thatAI is not going to take over
everything.

Well, also like I don't think that if I knew the
dj was ai, I don't think I wouldbe excited.
I want to meet these people, Idon't care what I don't care
what this ai has.

I don't care what this ai has to say.
It's a pre-programmed thing,it's.
It's not genuine, and I know it.

It's crazy, okay, well I think that this is crazy
and also awesome yeah.
So Coldplay actually recentlyperformed in Mumbai and Chris
Martin speaks Hindi and he wasdoing it during the concert.
So I think that that's prettyamazing, like if you know
another language and you canreach your audience by being so

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authentic.
How freaking cool.
I always love when people comefrom other countries and they're
trying to learn English and Ialways you know, I think my
husband thinks it's silly, likeif we go to Mexico and I'll say
some things in Spanish and he'slike I'm the same way you know.
But I just think that that'scommon courtesy and I think
that's really cool that he wasdoing that, and maybe he learned

(32:24):
it through AI.
Maybe he listened to.

Babbel in podcast .
On the way over, we went toBarcelona a couple of years
Barcelona, spain and I waswalking around with my Google
translator going like, can youpoint me to the nearest bathroom
?
I only know El Banio.
It worked.
So there are.
Like you said, jay, ai is avery good tool.

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It is going to be a very goodtool Because think about a world
where you have some kind ofearpiece that hears a foreign
language and translates it,using ai, into english for you
to understand.
You then speak back to them.
They're wearing the same thing.

Jay Franze (33:03):
It translate your word, that's it's here that
technology is here it alreadyexists, for sure, but but on
mass.
It's like a phone, whereeverybody has it in their ear.

Right, that's exactly what I thought too, jay.

What a time to be alive.
We're either heading headfirstinto a burning pile of barrels
or we're heading towards utopia.

Greatness.
We're heading towards utopia.
I hope so, towards, you know,utopia.
Greatness, we're headingtowards utopia.
I hope so.
Speaking of AI, paul McCartneyactually is urging the British
government against changes tocopyright laws concerning AI.
So I'm sure that there's a lotof buzz about copyright laws and
voices and AI.

(33:48):
And have you guys heard ofanything?
You know that 11 Labs I don'tknow if that's what you were
looking at with guys heard ofanything?
You know that 11 Labs?
I don't know if that's what youwere looking at with your
friend, but you know.
I mean, do you guys have anythoughts about AI and copyright?

100%.
Yes, I do.
Prince spoke out about this acouple of years before he died
and people were saying you know,they'll be able to, because
they own my name and likeness.
They'll be able to use my voiceafter I'm dead to make
recordings of me, put them outas material of mine and make

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money off of me.
And you know, I don't know howI feel about that.
I don't know how I feel aboutthat.
You know, if you can, aftersomebody passes away, some big
legacy artist, AI, writes songsin the style of that artist and

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AI their voice.
So it sounds just like.
I mean, you can't even tellthat it wasn't an album of
theirs and you sell that album.
Is that right?
What do you guys think?
That's my question I pose toyou.
Like I'll say it before, Idon't know how I feel about that
, but I think that's aninteresting question this is
again.

Jay Franze (35:09):
It's happening now.
You get artists who've passedaway yeah, and you have some of
their family that has said, yes,you can go ahead and do this.
So it's happening.
We've had, we've got artistswho are alive, that are no
longer able to use their voice,who have put out an ai album so
you have things like thathappening and then I think you
just mentioned that did that.

Jay Randy Travis is the one I know of for sure,
yeah.

Jay Franze (35:34):
Yeah.
So I mean again, it's a tool.
There's positives and negatives, but I think it's how you use
that tool.
It's just like chat GPT.
If you write something and thenask chat GPT to check it for
grammar and tighten it up alittle bit, I don't think that's
cheating.
To check it for grammar andtighten it up a little bit, I
don't think that's cheating.
If you say, write me this,whatever it is article or paper

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or something and you don't putany input, well then that's
cheating.
So or at least in my mind, Ithink that's the way it works,
absolutely.

I agree.

Jay Franze (36:04):
If it's a tool, it's like Grammarly.
I mean, you write something onpaper and then you ask Grammarly
.
That's nothing but a form ofthis AI, as we're calling it,
and Grammarly goes through andchecks your grammar.
It's even offering suggestionson how to word a sentence better
.
It's just doing it one thing ata time, versus the whole thing
at once.

And I also believe that there's not a dang
thing we can do to stop it.

Tony Scott (36:28):
It's crazy to think about.

But see, I'm also you about.
I love science fiction stuff,so the things I see coming to
fruition are all these sci-fi.
This is all stuff straight outof sci-fi.
Somebody made a joke that wewere heading towards iRobot.

We'll be there.

Jay Franze (36:45):
One more thing on this topic before we have to
move on.
I guess here.
But unless we do make this afour-hour show tonight, trey, we
can do that.
We're talking about AI and allthe things, but I was listening
to a show earlier I think it wasyesterday and they played clips
of famous people like Trump.

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They played Taylor Swift and afew others and they asked you to
guess which one was real.
So they played a quote fromTrump that was real and one that
was AI, and the people in thestudio guessing got it wrong at
least 50% of the time.
So I mean, we're close enoughthat it's fooling people already

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.

There's going to have to be some sort of law
created to keep this fromrunning amok, because very bad
people with this ability toabuse this AI will, if they can.
We should just all enjoyourselves for the next 10 years
until the Terminators take over.

(37:50):
Jay, yeah, there you go.
We should just all enjoyourselves for the next 10 years
until the terminators take over.
Jay, I'll see you guys.

Jay Franze (37:55):
We've talked a lot about the future.

I'll see you guys in the Fox hall while we're
fighting the terminators.

We've talked a lot about the future, but what
about the past, jay?

Jay Franze (38:10):
What are we talking about the past now?

Well, just bands that should have been bigger
than what they were.
You're looking to make atransition.

I like that.

Jay Franze (38:20):
Let's move on to the question of the day.

Can you pick up the ball that you just dropped?

Jay Franze (38:25):
Hey, sorry, I'm fired.

I tossed it up.

Jay Franze (38:34):
More like lobbed it.
You said passed.
I didn't quite make thatconnection.
All right, Bands that shouldhave been bigger than they are.
So, Tiffany, throw out any bandyou think should have been
bigger.
We'll just go around one at atime and I'll see what people
have chimed in here.
George, chime in.
Anybody else out there, pleasechime in.

No, Jay, you go first.
I don't have anything.

Jay Franze (38:56):
Band survivor the band survivor should have been
bigger than that what theyreally were.
Good choice.

They had what?
Three, three hits yeah.

Jay Franze (39:07):
That's really good hits.

They had, they had burning heart, and that
might be it.
Burning Heart and Eye of theTiger might be the only two.
Yeah, because Burning Heart issuch a banger too High on you.

Jay Franze (39:22):
That was one of their big ones.

Okay, so they had a couple American Heartbeat
Burning.

Jay Franze (39:25):
Heart oh yeah, american Heartbeat.
I know that one too.
They had American Heartbeat.
Is this oh yeah, americanHeartbeat.

I know that one too.
They had American Heartbeat.
Is this love?
I think the band Hinder.
You remember Lips of an Angel?
Those guys were great.
I got another one in that samevein.

Jay Franze (39:40):
I got another one in that same vein, did you not
understand the rules of thisgame?

We're supposed to switch.

Tony Scott (39:45):
Go ahead, tell us your other one.

So Hinder is a big one.
I would say what was the nameof the band that had?
I believe in a thing calledlove.
There's a little rhythm in yourheart.
There's a chance we can make itnow.
What?

was the name of them, guys, I have no idea.

I got to look it up.
I got to look it up now It'd becool though, if you could keep
singing it.
Yeah, I can't even hit thatnote not at 9 o'clock at night
or 10 o'clock at night, I shouldsay I can barely hit it when
I'm warmed up, Tiffany.

Jay Franze (40:14):
We should have opened with this.
The band that should have beenbigger than they were.

The Darkness.

Jay Franze (40:18):
They're called the Darkness oh yeah, I know the
Darkness, he's funny great band.

They should have been bigger than they were.

Jay Franze (40:26):
Tiffany Von Ray should have been bigger than
what they were.

Yes, yes, I should have said that, yes,
speaking of not well like AI isdefinitely changing now the
industry, but at that time, itwas streaming that changed the
industry and that's what kind ofscrewed them over.

Jay Franze (40:46):
Yeah, it was good point.

Accessibility.

Jay Franze (40:49):
Trey, you might not know who Vaughn Ray is.

I've heard the name they're friends of ours.

Jay Franze (40:53):
They were on the road with Nickelback.

I think you told me about them when we first
talked, if I'm not mistaken.

Jay Franze (40:59):
They were an awesome band but, man, they got gypped
out of.
I mean, they were huge and gotgypped out of their fame right
at the start of Grunge it wasrough.

What about the Fabulous Thunderbirds?
Yeah, is that tough.

Jay Franze (41:15):
Right, yeah, no, that was a great band.

You know the lead guitar player or the singer was
Stevie Ray Vaughan's brother.
Yeah, so I think that maybe gotovershadowed by Stevie Ray
Vaughan a little bit.

Tony Scott (41:24):
You know what I mean .
I mean because you're talkingabout freaking stevie raymond
you know what I mean so I thinkthat's another one.

I love the fabulous thunderburst though
george says cheap trick cheaptrick.
Yeah, I think, george, I thinkthat's a good one.
I think cheap trick was well,how many hits?
The cheap trick half was uh, mydaddy's all right.
Oh, yes, all right, they justseem a little way surrender.

Jay Franze (41:48):
Surrender, Surrender yeah, the Flame Cheap Trick
Surrender Dream Police, that wastheir big one.

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Jay Franze (41:57):
Yeah, david says Tesla, oh yeah.

Tony Scott (42:01):
Tesla.

Jay Franze (42:01):
Good choice.
That was a good choice, david.

I mean, they were big, but not that big, that's
my Aunt Jackie's favorite bandof all time she loves Tesla.
I band of all time, she lovesTesla.
I'll have to tell her thatsomebody was shouting out Tesla
on here.
Neil says YNT.

Jay Franze (42:13):
I've heard YNT.
I've heard that name before.
Michael says Savatage, oh yeah.

Let's see what about some country artists.
Kevin Sharp, that's a good one.
I think Chuck Wicks should havebeen a bigger star than he was
I think Chuck Wicks isincredibly talented, William
Michael Morgan's another one too.

Jay Franze (42:34):
I can give you one that never made it.
Which one?
Jay Jimmy Chris.
He's a producer I used to workwith.
He's released a couple albumsbut he never really made much of
it, but he was probably one ofthe most talented people I've
ever met in my life.

Wow Played every instrument wrote every song sang
the album.
Hey, speaking of instruments,can I ask you, jay?
No On Shaboosie's.
I'm going to do it anyway.
Okay, it's a woman'sprerogative.
On Shaboosie's performance,there was a guitar player and he
had a guitar strap, but theguitar sat like tabletop and

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then he played that way.
Is that a specific guitar?
It's a dobro, or is that just astyle of?

playing.
It's a dobro.
It's an electric dobro probably, because I mean, I'm pretty
sure that's the lead instrumentin that Shaboosie song is a lap
steel.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure all that'sgoing on in that record is
acoustic that big kick loop,that kick snare loop, and then
the claps and some bgvs, andthen that the lap steel and some

(43:37):
pedal steel and then maybe somefiddle.

But there's not a whole lot of electric dobro,
electric dobro.

There's like blues dobros that are like
resonators, like the metal, thebig old school metal looking
blues man guitars.

Jay Franze (43:50):
Those are like traditional resonators looks
like there's an acoustic guitarwith a hubcap on it yeah,
absolutely have you seen theguitars that are made out of
metal?

yeah, yeah, that's called a resonator, but
it's.
It's a form of dobro kind of.
That's like the original blues,delta blues, dobro, you know
what I mean.
And then there's like electricdobros oh, cool okay I'm pretty
sure.
I'm pretty sure that the introof Boot, scoot and Boogie where
it goes.

That's an electric.

Tony Scott (44:23):
Dobro.

I'm pretty sure I don't think he's playing that
on an electric guitar.

Interesting.

Same deal with John Deere Green.
That's that instrument.
Sean says Cinderella.
Oh yeah, a lot of those 80shair bands big time should have
been bigger.
They had their one, two hits.
They had that one good album.

Jay Franze (44:45):
Well, they had a very small period of time yeah,
they would drop off between rockand grunge and they get yeah,
really george, what did Georgesay?
He said Keith Urban.

You think he?

Jay Franze (44:58):
should be bigger.
How much bigger can that manget?
He should have more years therehe is.

Should have had more years.
Absolutely, absolutely.
So let's see here.
Somebody said Chicago.

Jay Franze (45:14):
Chicago.

Although I feel like Chicago was a big fan.
They were huge.

Yeah, I think so too.

Jay Franze (45:21):
Tim says Rat, they got their fair shake.
Tiffany.
Tim says Rat.

Rat's a good one Amen.

Jay Franze (45:27):
Rat's one of my favorite.

Rat's one of my favorite.

Jay Franze (45:30):
Hair metal bands.
For sure, I love hair metal.

I mean, I love hair metal.

I mean, I love hair metal.
I mean I love 80s metal, quietRiot.
I mean, did they have a wholebunch of hits?

Quiet Riot gets a lot of credit for being the
band that ushered in the heydayof metal in the 80s, because
they had, come On, feel theNoise, which was like a big hit
that came out of nowhere andthen, come On, feel the Noise
was a cover that they did notwant to cut.
I didn't know that they did.
I didn't know that either it'seither that one or metal health.

(46:00):
I think it's.
Come on, feel the noise.
Come on, feel the noise was cutin one take.
They literally were like wehate this song, we don't want to
record it, it sucks.

Tony Scott (46:10):
We're gonna do one take this is all you're gonna
get out of us and they went inin there and, come on, feel the
noise.

And they did it.
That whole thing is one take.

Jay Franze (46:21):
Thank you, george, you had the name wrong.

George is the man I can already tell.
I like George.

Jay Franze (46:26):
That's my boy.
George is our guy, for sure, isthat George's profile picture.

Is that really George with that awesome beard?
That's George picture.
Is that really george with thatawesome beard?
He said that's george.
He said what was it?
We talked about it last time.
Eight months to grow that, Ithink.
He said it's looking good,george the beard is looking
right, brother.

Jay Franze (46:41):
That's what I'm saying now.
George, I want to know if youstill have that beard.
I saw a picture of you onlinethe other day without a beard,
so I want to know if that beardis there yeah, oh, calling him
out in front of everybody it waslike me and the mustache man
that's what I called myself out.
George's family.
I knew if Jay got a hold of apicture of me with a mustache
it'd be on the screen, buddy,his picture of the mustache and

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underneath it, country men andporn.

I'm trying to think of some country artists
that could have been bigger.

Jay Franze (47:16):
Eric says Ty Ketto.

Now that's a band that didn't really.

Jay Franze (47:19):
I mean, they were an 80s band but they definitely
did not blow up.
But they were a good band.
Yeah, saints and.

Sinners yeah that one was on the list, you know,
you got to basically thinkthey're like oh, george said he
still has it.
You know, I was talking todayabout uh to somebody.
I remember the cassettes.

Jay Franze (47:38):
You had to take a pencil and wind them up I
remember that I remember my dadwinding up the cassettes because
I probably and tiffany, I'lltell you about popping the
little piece out of the cornerand putting scotch tape over.
We had that whole cassettestory when you used to get
cassettes or cds and they havethe little leaflet inside
cassette story.

Well, just for kicks and giggles when you used
to get cassettes or CDs and theyhave the little leaflet inside.
What were you most excited tolearn about on it?
Were you looking at thepictures, the lyrics?
It was good to read the lyrics.

I always read the lyrics.
I remember there was a gospelartist that was somewhat of a
southern gospel artist, but Iwould say he had some some.
I would say he was like amodern country gospel artist you
know, so he had some poppystuff, but his name was Ray
bolts.
He had a song that my dad loved.
It was called the anchor holds.
So the anchor holds in spite ofthe storm.

(48:31):
Such a good song, I mean.

Tony Scott (48:33):
I don't know what Ray bolts is doing nowadays Ray
bolts is floating aroundsomewhere.

I hope he's still playing, ray.
If you ever hear this, I'm afan of your music.
But yeah, I remember looking ata Ray Boltz cassette and
opening it up and seeing hisglorious mullet.

He had a very nice 90s mullet.

Jay Franze (48:51):
Now we know where it comes from.
The title of this episode isgoing to be mullet.

Honestly.
Honestly, man, you know longhair.
I don't think long hair shouldever go out of style.
I know it will.
It eventually will go back outof style and everybody will cut
their hair off.
But baseball players andfootball players and country
singers are keeping it aliveright now, so I'm okay with it,
and hockey players, and hockeyplayers and hockey players, yeah

(49:19):
, yeah.

and you know what ?
If you can grow it, you guysshould be able to have those
luscious looks.
And you know why your guys'shair stays better?
Because you don't put all theproduct in it?

yep, I I, literally.
My secret is I I shampooconditioner head and shoulders
uh head and shoulders yep, yephead and shoulders, and then
conditioner really good, curly,rough like this train.
She's rough like this Dre.
Oh, that's all good.
No, tiffany, no, that's why Idon't have dandruff, because I
use head and shoulders and thenI get out and I blow dry the top
.
I blow dry the top.

(49:43):
Okay, got to get a little stylein there and then I just comb
the back out while it's wet andjust let it dry.
Yep it and it just curls up andit gives that white, white on to
keith whitley 100.
But I don't, george, I don'tconsider keith willie to be
underrated I think everybodyknows how good keith whitley was
and I think people george knowsray bolts too.

(50:06):
Let's go.

Jay Franze (50:07):
Let's go, man and so I do.

George is our man I, I like this part of our
family.
We got to put him on the show.
That's what I'm saying, georgejayfrenzycom slash live.

come on, we've laid it out, come on if george
pops on here, I will you'll stayanother six hours until two
o'clock in the.

I had my fingers crossed off the screen.

Jay Franze (50:37):
No, you didn't, but I'll hang out for a little
longer.
It's an audio show.
We don't know if your fingersare crossed or not.

Also can nobody see our faces the way we're
seeing each other's faces rightnow.
Yes, everybody I feel like ourmannerisms are part of the
funniness of the show.
Yeah, absolutely.

Jay Franze (50:53):
And the fact that we're all sitting here naked.
It's just odd and nobody's donea show like this before?

Has any of your fans seen you naked like this
before, Trey?

No, we're like the girl at the Grammys.

Jay Franze (51:09):
Yes, we're all wearing a see-through dress.

Who's going to be the first guy to pull it off,
though that's a career ender.
That's a career ender rightthere.

Whatever guy decides to do it, career over,
you're done well, I cannot waitto hear this song on the 7th.
I'm super excited.
So does it hit like 1 am on the7th or what like?
How fast, how soon.

I hear this midnight midnight on the 7th
it's, it drops and uh and yeah,man, we are.
We are getting nothing butpositive responses from this
song.
People are really liking it, soit's, it's been great.
It's been great.
I'm really excited.
I'm hoping I'm knocking on wood, you never know.
I'm hoping this one ends upbeing my highest dream song,
because I really enjoy this oneyeah, I really enjoy it.

Jay Franze (51:58):
What do you like most about it?

I think, the authenticity of it.
I think the fact that it's notsome convoluted um contrived
message.
It is just a love song that'spure and honest in its form.
I love the way the recordturned out.
The sound of the record is isprobably my favorite part of it.

(52:23):
It's got this perfect mix oflike 90s feel to it and but also
very modern.
It's a great melody.
You know I got to show off myvoice on it.
You know it's a.
It's a cool song.
I'm excited for it.
I did my first interview thismorning at about 7 30 in the
morning, yeah I've done this is.
I don't, jay.
I don't know if I told you, jay, this is like my 10th one in a

(52:43):
row.

Jay Franze (52:44):
You did tell me they're trying to kill, they're
trying to tell me and tell meit's the best one, and then but
this, I'm having such a blast Ilove this show I hope I get to
do this a million times and butI hope beyonce mad at me.

I hope she never goes back and watches this but I
said, I spoke my heart and Iwill never knock Beyonce.

I don't think you said anything bad about it.

Y'all are the ones that are going to get
canceled not me.

Jay Franze (53:09):
No, that's Tiffany.
Hate mail goes to Tiffany atJFrenzycom.

Y'all are getting canceled, not me.

Jay Franze (53:16):
We, you know, we enjoy.
I don't know if enjoy is theword for me, but we respect
beyonce.
We respect beyonce.

Yeah, I just don't like the album I like, I
like texas, hold them that songI do love that song and when I
first heard it I was like thisain't texas ain't no it's cool.
There's been a lot of countryhit songs that are like that,
that have that same groove, thatsame vibe, and it's just Jay
and Tiffany are awesome.
Yes, they are, george, they arevery awesome.

(53:48):
Thank you, george.
But that groove in that song istimeless.
I mean, I do think that song isgoing to stand the test of time
.
It's a cool song.

I agree with that .

That cool song.
But man, I agree with that,that stapleton album.
I like that song and postmalone.

Jay Franze (54:04):
You know post malone's stuff, man just coming
out of nowhere.
He's collaborator of the year,oh good country.

I mean just that california sober song that he
did with stapleton.

Jay Franze (54:13):
Oh man, that is a banger that song is such a good
song has he not collaboratedwith anybody?
What was the song hecollaborated with you?

With me.
We're still working on it?

Jay Franze (54:23):
Oh, is that you're still working on it?
Yeah, we're still.
Yeah, don't talk about it yet.
He's supposed to get back to me.

Man he's collaborated with everybody.
But you know, the thing aboutPost Malone from what I've heard
is I feel like if Post Malonewalked into the local on a
Friday night, we were in theirjam and he'd hop up on stage
with me and he'd jam out allnight with me.
He would.
We had Kyle Fields on the show.

Jay Franze (54:44):
Kyle Fields was on the show.
Great guy, great artist.
He's had a chance to play somemassive venues with hundreds of
thousands of people in theaudience.
He opened up for Kid Rock onthe festivals of the summer.
I mean great artist, but healso plays all the local places
in Nashville and he was playingover at Losers and Post Malone
walked in and he was justwatching him all night long

(55:06):
saying how great he was, and hetalked to him in between songs.
I mean, he was just the nicestguy in the world to me.
He stayed there all night,exchanged phone numbers.

He seems to be the most authentic guy, yeah.

Jay Franze (55:17):
He seems to be the most authentic guy.

He seems to be a really genuinely nice guy.
All right Well.

Jay Franze (55:22):
I guess we're going to have to start wrapping this
thing up.
So, once again, I would saywe've reached the top of the
hour, but we've actually reachedthe bottom of the hour, which
does mean we have reached theend of the show.
If you've enjoyed the show,please tell a friend, tiffany,
if you did not enjoy the show.

Tell two.

Jay Franze (55:38):
Thank you very much.
You can reach out to all of usover at jayfranze.
com, where you can keep theconversation going, and this
week for socials.
If you would like to reach outto us on Instagram, that is
Instagram.
We are looking for interactionon Instagram.
You can reach me over at@jayfranze, Miss Tiffany.

@ VirtuallyY ou Pods.

Trey Trey Calloway Music.
@ Trey Calloway Music.
There you go.

Jay Franze (56:05):
Alright, Tiffany, my friend, what do you got going
on this week?

Jay, I am going to get a couple of winks of
sleep and then I'm going to getmy car tomorrow and drive my
daughter down to Orlando.
Once again, we have a cheercompetition all weekend.
I am excited, though, becauseit's on Disney property and
she's going to be in the ESPNlike auditorium not auditorium,
but arena and so it's going tobe you know, lights, camera,

(56:31):
action, it's a whole thing.
It's streamed on varsity TV orsomething I don't really know
and then a day at Magic Kingdom.
So I've got a magical weekendahead of me that's awesome,
that's awesome.

Jay Franze (56:43):
My daughter, lucy, has got a dance competition this
weekend as well.
I believe it is in ohio, ohio.
So, um, we're gonna go to dancecompetition.
But this week I had a chance tospeak to vance powell.
Uh, seven time grammyaward-winning producer-engineer.

Nice.

Jay Franze (56:59):
That episode will release on Monday if anybody
would like to learn more aboutVance and his time in the music
industry From artists like theWhite Stripes and my daughter's
favorite, the Arctic Monkeys.
He also helped build BlackbirdJohn McBride's recording studio.

Tony Scott (57:16):
I'll get it right, Blackbird John.

McBride's recording studio.

Jay Franze (57:19):
Oh yeah, he was on the road with Martina.
He got fired by Martina, sohe's got all sorts of stories to
tell us about Tracer.
What do you got going on thisweek?

Well, tomorrow I've got a recording session, I
think about 2 o'clock.
I've got to shoot content.
Tomorrow I've got to week fullof shows and then Saturday I'm
actually going to, uh, goingback to Charlotte, my son is

(57:49):
going to be in a play.
Oh, uh, I am going to supportmy son.
Yeah, they're they're doing.
They're putting on a version ofMatilda at their school.

Tony Scott (57:59):
So he is in.

Matilda, and both of the shows are sold out.
It's insane.

Oh, my kid's got something going on this weekend.

I'm excited, and so I'll be there cheering my son
on and then probably watch theSuper Bowl on Sunday.
Oh, who's going to win theSuper Bowl everybody?
Is there a football game?
I didn't even know there was agame this weekend.
Who's going to win the SuperBowl?
So what you're?

Jay Franze (58:25):
saying is there's going to be some commercials on
TV this weekend?
Yeah, exactly.

Tiffany, who's winning the Super Bowl?

I mean the Eagles .
They're going to fly high.
Take down those Chiefs.

We hope.

Jay Franze (58:40):
No, I have to go against that because I can't go
for the same team Tiffany goesfor.

I want it to be a good, fair game.
That's what I want.
I don't care who wins, becauseneither one of these teams are
my dog in the fight.
I want it to be a fair game,that's all Against popular
opinion.

I want to see Taylor.

Jay Franze (59:02):
Oh, absolutely.
That's the only reason I'mtuning in.
Do we know who's?

performing Super Bowl halftime.

Jay Franze (59:11):
Do we know?
I'm willing to bet Taylor Swiftdoesn't put Cheez Whiz on her
stick.

Let me see who's playing Super Bowl 2025?
.

Jay Franze (59:19):
Taylor chime in.
Let us know.

Kendrick Lamar.
It is Kendrick Lamar, look atthat.

Isn't that a great winner?

Very, very cool.

Did he win?

Jay Franze (59:31):
Yep Record of the year.

Oh snap.

Kendrick Lamar was the one that wore the double
denim.
That's right.
I was thinking that it wasKendrick Lamar that the one that
wore the double denim.
That's right.
I was thinking that it wasKendrick Lamar that wore the
double denim.
To the worship, they wore thewhat is it called?
Canadian tuxedo?
The Canadian tuxedo?
Hey, I wear double denim allthe time.

Man, double denim is back in style that's what
all the cool kids are wearingwith their mullets dang right,
it is, tiffany.

Dang right, it is .
It's all about the m kids arewearing with their mullets.
Dang right, it is, tiffany.
Dang right, it is.
It's all about the mullet, thevipers.
I had some vipers for a while,but I'm so notorious for losing
sunglasses.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:08):
I've lost every good pair of sunglasses I've
ever owned you know, when wemoved down here from minnesota I
was like, okay, I'm gonna get areally nice pair of sunglasses,
and I did, and I proceeded tolose them not too long after
Holding his four Grammys.

Trey Calloway (01:00:20):
Good for him.
Absolutely, that's awesome.
I just get cheap ones now.
I heard that he did it Okay.
So there's the headline rightthere Kendrick Lamar takes
another subtle dig at Drake andfeud with Canadian Tuxedo at
Grammys.
You know, because Drake isCanadian.
I heard that the CanadianTuxedo was a way for him to kind

(01:00:42):
of A little bit of a dig.
Yeah, a little dig with theCanadian tuxedo, but honestly,
man, all he did was complimenthimself that Canadian tuxedo is
on point.
Honestly.
Double denim.
The only rule is they have tobe different shades of denim.
You can't wear light denim.
Double denim the only rule isthey have to be different shades
of denim.
You can't wear light denim,light denim.

(01:01:03):
It's got to be dark denim lightdenim.

Jay Franze (01:01:05):
He's got the same shade.

I know that's the only point that.

I yeah, he's against it.

His almost looks like a jumpsuit.
His almost looks like he'swearing a one-piece jumpsuit.
It's a prison suit, like achain gang suit or something
like that.
That's a pretty cool way.

Thank you, George, Kansas City, he says.

Aw he wanted.
Jay to have someone in hiscorner.

He said it last week too, okay well.
Alright, folks, I wish you allthe best.
Have a good night.

Tony Scott (01:01:39):
Thanks for listening to The Jay Franze Show.
Make sure you visit us atjayfranze.
com.
Follow, connect and say hello.

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