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February 4, 2026 43 mins

In this conversation, Jens Ludwig discusses his extensive research on gun violence, particularly focusing on youth violence and the role of the University of Chicago Crime Lab. He emphasizes the importance of using data and behavioral science to understand and address the root causes of gun violence. Ludwig also critiques media representations of gun violence and shares insights from his book 'Unforgiving Places,' which explores the complexities of gun violence in America. He offers practical policy recommendations for reducing gun violence, highlighting the need for community engagement and innovative intervention programs.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

  • The foundations of Jens Ludwig's background in crime research, which began in the late 1980s during the crack cocaine epidemic.
  • The important insights gained from the ‘Moving to Opportunity’ project.
  • The unique role the University of Chicago Crime Lab plays as an R&D partner to government agencies.
  • How government actions in crime prevention lack evidence-based support.
  • What drives Youth violence in premeditated actions?
  • How the 'Becoming a Man' program significantly reduces violent crime arrests among participants.
  • Jens’ perspectives on media coverage and the misrepresentation of the nature of gun violence.
  • How gun violence is a public health crisis, particularly affecting young people.
  • Community engagement is crucial for effective violence prevention strategies.
  • How practical, low-cost interventions can significantly reduce violence rates.

Jens Ludwig is the Edwin A. and Betty L. Bergman Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago and Pritzker director of the University of Chicago Crime Lab. He is an elected member of the National Academy of Medicine, and author of “Unforgiving Places: The Unexpected Origins of American Gun Violence” (University of Chicago Press, 2025).

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