Is Modern Medicine Healing or Harming?

What if your body already knows how to heal if you just give it the right tools?

This week, we sit down with the Certified Health Nut, who’s spent 35 years exploring natural healing and transforming his own life—from 340 pounds to a vibrant wellness advocate.

We talk ancient wisdom, controversial biohacks (yes, including sun exposure in very unexpected places), fasting, seed oils, and why most modern illnesses might just come down to “clogged tubes.” It’s wild, eye-opening, and surprisingly practical.

No hype, no gimmicks! Just a fresh take on how to support your body’s natural ability to thrive!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, so welcome to our podcast.
This is a little bit differenttoday, because this podcast is a
spinoff of our radio show.
Okay, so we got CertifiedHealth Net here and it's an

(00:25):
honor to have you on our podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Thank you so much for having me Grateful to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
My son, kemp, is my co-host.
What's up, he's 21 years oldand I have him on to help me out
because he also is very muchinto health and wellness.
Give you an example he playsbasketball in college in Hawaii
and last night I was watching TV.
He came over he said goodnight,he was going to bed.
He goes to bed pretty early.
He's really focused on hissleep.

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And I was walking by and I sawhis room.
I saw the light was on in hisroom.
It was a red light.
So I thought I'd pop in andjust say hey, goodnight.
And I opened the door and hewas reading.
He had Norma Tech boots on andhe had the red light on and the
whole room was red.
But he held the book up tocover the light that was coming
in from the room that I was in.
Like he wants no light, right?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
artificial light.
I'm good with red lightespecially when you swing my
door open like that and thenit's just like nothing to all
kinds of right all kinds ofdiscordant energies, so he's
into that.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
So I thought he'd be the perfect co-host to talk to
the certified health nut.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, I think you know light is a pretty big
understanding right now ifyou're looking at health,
especially with the amount ofnon-native fluorescent
flickering light, especiallysince we got rid of the
incandescent bulbs and thisaffects our circadian rhythms
and our hormones.

(01:46):
So your son is extremely smartand tapped into it.
I've known at least twochildren, young teenagers, that
have either ended up in thepsych ward or ended their high
school career staying up late atnight on the computer.
You think it's innocuous.
However, it can mess with yourcircadian rhythms and then that

(02:09):
can also affect your mentalhealth, anxiety, depression, you
add to it.
Comparison is the thief of joy,and you've got these algorithms
that are designed to get youhooked, and so it's pretty
layered and it's good that yourson is being mindful of it,
because this is ultimately whatI'm teaching my children, and

(02:31):
you know children can be prettyresistant to any of your
tutelage, and so my kids arestarting to really really get it
, and they're also seeing it outin the world where people are
checked out of life ultimatelyno one's home but the discordant
frequencies and the lightscoming out of the machines are

(02:51):
affecting the human beings.
I do believe Dr Jack Cruz tiesit all the way back into the mob
figured this out in Vegasbecause they wanted to empty
their pockets of the money.
So when you're on slot machinesit's very hypnotic and you pry
it with a little bit of alcoholand the money just flows Right.

(03:12):
And so I do believe the CIA,hooked up with the mob, took
that information, brought it outto Stanford, which is a think
tank for Silicon Valley, right,and they own the frequencies,
and the frequency coming out ofthe devices have to be at a
certain level, and all of thisaffects our consciousness,

(03:33):
because we are conscious beingsand we are light beings,
ultimately.
And if you've got discordantlight that's coming in there and
they're blocking out the sun,and then you're putting on
sunscreen and then you have seedoils in your body, then what
you get is just sick automatonsall doped up on the matrix and
dude we went to dinner lastnight.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
He makes all his food and he would only go to his mom
.
I don't blame him.
His mom wanted to go to dinnersomewhere, and he would only go
to a place that did not haveseed oils.
Yeah, where would you pee thejungle?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
okay, all right you found it on an app.
Right, I did.
I had a seed oil scout app yep,have you heard of that?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
I have that one as well, do you?
Yeah, this is a.
This is a real deal right seedoils is one of the main culprits
, but then you've got definitelygluten and uh but that's the
only way we can get him out ofhouse.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Glued at a restaurant , yeah, other than he makes his
own food he's smart and histissues look like it too.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Right, His tan, the texture of his hair, the spark
in his eyes the color of hisskin.
Thank you, it makes a hugedifference.
It does, yeah, really smart.
Where did you get hip to allthis Watching me?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
No, the same thing you were saying earlier about
your kids not really listeningto you ever.
I felt like that was kind ofthe same way with me, with him
forever.
Um, I actually got hurt myfreshman year at college and so
I had to get knee surgery, allthe stuff, and it was just like
I was laying in bed for hours ata time for weeks and I was like
, okay, how do I get out of this?

(04:58):
Like you reach a point whereit's like I've been sitting in a
room forever, like I can't takethis anymore.
I start looking up ways to healfaster.
Then it just starts rolling androlling, and now I'm here.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
But also your dad got you cold plunges doing yoga
sauna.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yes, he was very easy access Eating right.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I was always trying to get you to.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Like it was very easy once I recognized that I wanted
to heal faster, that I just hadto listen to everything he'd
been teaching me forever, ratherthan just throwing it off to
the side.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I love that.
And how did you get hip to it?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I've been.
Well, honestly, I was about 340pounds and my dad died of a
massive heart attack in 2007,and I had him and his two little
brothers and I was too fat toplay with my kids they would
crawl on me.
So I thought I got to change mylife in 2007.
So I started doing hot yoga.
I started eating right.

(05:47):
I dropped about 100, somepounds, but then I wasn't
lifting weights and I had that.
You know, that skinny fat.
I got pretty skinny but therewas no muscle tone.
So then I started liftingweights, did a little
testosterone therapy.
My testosterone was low, um,doing bickram yoga, lifting
weights, and then my weightsfluctuated, but I like where I'm
at now.
I got, I got about a 10 poundwindow.
Um, I'm trying to do that 80 20rule where you know I I'll have

(06:09):
some cake or some chocolate, butI, I really want to completely
eliminate that from my body.
You know I do like.
Last night he was like I, wewanted dessert and the family
went and got frozen yoga yogurt,but him and I, he he had uh,
what did you have?
You had the Greek yogurt yogurtwith some berries in it, you
know.
And then we watch a lot of yourvideos.
You know we watch a lot of yourstuff, which is interesting
because the glasses you don'thave the glasses on today.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I do have them, and so it really just depends on the
podcast.
I've had a career in front ofthe camera for 35 years and, uh,
I didn't necessarily know youraudience and it really just
depends.
You're very handsome, thank you, but yeah, I do like to wear
them.
I'll probably wear them for thesecond podcast today.
What's a good brand of those.

(06:53):
I like Raw Optics because MattMaruca was friends.
Very intelligent young man cameout of college, realized that
this was detrimental thefrequencies coming out of these
devices and out of thefluorescent lights as well and
so he teamed up with Dr JackCruz back in the day.
So the brand is Ra R-A.

(07:15):
Ra like the sun, god Ra.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Optics.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh Ra, okay, okay, okay and it's got the eye of
Horus as well as their insignia.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I will buy a pair today, because I've been looking
and I don't know which brand totrust.
Plus, I've got a large head, soI've got to find one that makes
it custom to my head.
Maybe you can pull some stringsfor me.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, and I have at least one of their designs out
in the car.
What's your?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
background Like what makes you the professional
certified health nut?
Is there a medical background?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
there a medical background?
Is it just experience?
Well, I wanted to be a doctorwhen I was younger.
Uh and so, and the etymology ofdoctor is teacher, right and so
, uh, and the doctors in china,I do believe, um, they, they
make more money when theirpatients get healed, right, and
the medical industry industryright now is really just trying
to hook us.
So I had my own digestiveissues about 35 years ago.

(08:11):
I was in Milan.
I was a Versace model.
I was looking to do my best inthat career, look and feel my
best in front of the camera, andI was bloating.
And the agents are prettyruthless in that industry.
They're like, oh honey, you'refat.
You know, you go out for pizzaand beer with the homies out in
Milan and you're having a goodtime.
And it was one of the greatestparts of the industry was

(08:33):
traveling.
The worst part of the industrythere was a ditty party going on
underneath and you're notinvited, right type of thing,
and you're not invited toadvance because you're not going
to that thing as well.
So it was kind of like thisunwritten sexual kind of element
that I didn't really know about.
But I could try and figure itout, right, and I don't play

(09:09):
those types of games, sexual.
I went down to the uh, theEnglish bookstore and bought a
book on nutrition and that was35 years ago and I started
reading that you know fruits andvegetables and eating whole
foods, and I'm sitting in Italyand they've got farmer's markets
and I'd never been to afarmer's market before, and so,
uh, and then I started eatingthat type of food, chucking it
down my neck and I startedgetting results and the toilet
bowl was looking great and I wasfeeling better.
And I came home and I did myfirst 10-day juice cleanse and I

(09:30):
was reading about herbs,dandelions, an excellent
diuretic for the liver, and loand behold, I think that's what
really helped me, because inthat industry I got into a very
party rock star lifestyle Aftera while living in Miami Beach in
the 90s Tokyo, miami, new York,paris I mean, I partied pretty
hard and so I started learningabout nutrition and fasting back

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then and juicing.
I've been juicing for 35 years.
And then I sobered up fromalcoholism because I got pretty
partied out and I foundVipassana meditation.
That really opened me up.
Ten-day courses of meditation insilence.
So I did 11 of those courses inthe span of six years, somebody

(10:18):
introduced me to Maori healersfrom New Zealand and they're
known as the bone crushers.
So they'll read your bodyenergetically and see where
you're holding on to trauma andthey'll step on your legs, your
back, your skull, and I was in ainstant sweat and a half second
and and it really just blew mymind and I heard about them

(10:40):
before I met them and so I waslike, where do I sign up for
this?
And sure enough, when they camethrough town, they came through
Los Angeles, and I heard aboutthe miracles that they helped
other people with fertility,with conceiving children and
people that had real difficulttimes.

(11:00):
And so I met them and my firstexperience was mind-blowing and
I was hooked ever since and I'vebeen studying with them for the
last 25 years and I witnessedmany miracles.
And then somebody turned me onto an herbal company in the
amazon.
By that time I had about 15plus years of studying herbalism
and taking plants into my body.
And I took these plants into mybody and, uh, it raised my

(11:24):
frequency and vibration muchhigher.
Are you a vegan?
No, but I did have two yearstint of it early on, so did I
yeah, I read a book called fitfor life.
I remember that book.
The fruit.
Yeah, and later on I caught upto harvey and marilyn diamond.
I met marilyn diamond onfacebook, so that would have
been 2007.

(11:44):
I read that book in 1991.
No, 1990.
I read that book.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
89 or 90.
It's a book.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
We were just talking about a couple days ago, yeah,
and I caught up with her and shesaid she almost killed herself
with that diet, she ruined herhormones and she was in her
seventies at that time.
With his diet, with Harvey'sdiet, with the vegan diet, oh
the vegan diet.
Okay, harvey and Marilyn Diamondwrote the book Fit for Free,
fit for Life, and it was a vegandiatribe like most of them,

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very dogmatic, and it makes kindof sense like, oh, this is the
way we're meant to eat.
But the more I studied and thedeeper I went the history of the
spear and what we used to huntand gather, and how the
microbiome developed.
And it takes 100,000 years tochange the human genome,
one-tenth of one percent.
So the history of the spearshows us we were all hunting and

(12:35):
gathering.
And what were we hunting?
Grass-fed ruminants, that'swhat we were hunting, whatever
can move.
Now, especially when I wrote mybook at 50, I got pretty thin.
I got down into my fightingweight and I got pretty, you
know, connected to my connectivetissues.
I was very thin, I was ripped,but I was also, uh, uh, very

(12:55):
thin and I I could if I didn'teat.
It was a problem and so, andsince I wrote that book, I've
gained 25 pounds and going intomy sixties, I want more muscle
and more weight.
I don't, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I'm 59 this year.
I'll be 60 at the end of theyear.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
And so are you fasting.
Do you do an 18 hour fast, 20hour fast, or do you just do you
just have fruit till noon, Likewhat's your, what's your daily?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
diet much uh, pre-digested nutrients, which is
organic, fresh squeezed juice,or I work with a wheatgrass
company as well.
Uh, we have dehydratedwheatgrass, spirulina, those
types of things.
So I'll do herbs and superfoods, uh, until I eat, maybe
starting at three.
Your first official meal is atthree or later sometimes, and so

(13:42):
, and then I'll like have a riribeye or chicken soup or some
kind of bone broth, somethinglike that.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
My doctor has me on an 18-hour fast.
Okay, so I eat at 1.
My last meal is around 7.
Do you drink coffee?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Currently.
Yeah, I'm having a cappuccino.
That's my one last vice, Right.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
But it's not bad for you, though, is it?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, I mean it's not bad for you though, is it?
No, I mean it's not terrible.
I mean I like to stay off.
I like to eat as clean aspossible.
When I'm at home and I make it,I'll have it with raw milk.
But when I'm out you talkedabout that yesterday too, man
when I'm out, you know I getwhatever pasteurized dairy is at
Whole Foods, so I'll get someorganic stuff.
Where do you get the raw milk?

(14:22):
From Raw milk?
I get it from the farmer FarmerDirect.
You can get it from Nick Adantehere in Arcadia, arcadia Meat
Market.
He sells it.
There's a couple places thathave it.
Are you in Arcadia?
I'm not in Arcadia, I'm inNorth Scottsdale.
Oh, we're in Arcadia.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Okay, I need to check that out.
Yeah go, I've never been tothat market.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I know exactly where it is.
Oh, he's got good food there.
That guy has really good food.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Wow, we're going to have to stop there after this on
the way back.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I know you were talking about the raw milk thing
, because it's like to me, youprocess so much information and
one is that, well, a cow, we'rethe only people, only animals,
that drink another animal's milk, and it's like a cow is
something that goes from 100pounds to 2,000 pounds in a year
.
Humans shouldn't drink milk.
And then I hear raw milk isreally good for you.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
So I don't know how to battle that argument in my
head.
Well, and everyone has to makethat assessment for themselves
what I tell my clients iswhatever you can get down the
neck and digest, go for that andthen rotate everything.
And so, because someone's ideamay or may not work for you or
me, right, but it works for them.
So when it comes to raw milk orany food, you have to test it

(15:33):
first.
Like Turkey doesn't agree withmy system.
I'm also a high oxidizer.
I don't eat a white meatchicken and since the eighties
and bodybuildingbuilding youhave chicken breast everywhere I
eat.
My body metabolizes dark meatchicken.
It has high purines and has alot of fat and my body likes
that much better.
I can metabolize it easier.

(15:55):
White, uh chicken breast islike.
It has like a caffeine reactionin me.
It doesn't digest as well.
What do you think of this trendof?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
And if I'm starving.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I can assimilate anything right.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
What do you think of this trend of like a hydranated
water?
And there's a couple of theseanti-aging biohackers that were
first promoting these waterbottles that do the hydrogen gas
and then now the pills you putin.
Have you seen all that stuff?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, my research shows that most of the cheaper
end stuff is garbage.
And then there's a very highend system from Japan.
It's called the.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
You mean a water system to put in your house.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, or like yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, it's like a $2,500 machine and I have four
machines at my house.
I've got an RO system.
Underneath my sink I have avitalizer which structures water
.
I bought that 18 years ago.
It's a blender-type device withmagnets and it spins it into a
vortex like a tornado.
It aerates it and lowers thesurface tension and it also adds

(16:57):
mineral over a coral calciumcharge, so, like in nature, it
goes over rocks.
And it's 18 years old and I'vebeen using that with RO for at
least 18 years.
I bought it when my son wasborn and I like that machine.
Then I have the Holy Hydrogen.
It's the Lourdes Hydrofix andso the Japanese did tons of

(17:19):
research because hydrogen is avery important molecule.
In fact, I do believe it's themost studied molecule out there.
There's thousands ofpeer-reviewed papers on it.
But to get a stable hydrogenatom in water has been
challenging.
And some of the lower-endbottles from China and the

(17:40):
tablets they don't work and someof the tablets could have heavy
metals in them as well.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
That's what I thought .

Speaker 2 (17:48):
And so the guy who taught me about the holy
hydrogen machine, greg theHydrogen man, he had like 300
tumors and he healed himselffrom that.
And these are anecdotes, but,like I said, go back to the peer
review papers.
And so the essence of hydrogenis it is a very small

(18:09):
antioxidant that can get intothe cells, and so we've got
antioxidants in our food, butthis is a very strategic
antioxidant allowing the body toreplicate its cells properly,
and so, ultimately, that's whatyou want to do is get the body
replicating it as best aspossible, otherwise premature
aging is going to set in.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
What's your take on the stem cell craze?
But I mean stem cells in othercountries the ones you can't get
here.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, I like to base everything on my own personal
experience, because there'salways data and reams of data
and Huberman podcasts and itsounds great in theory.
And let's face it, all thepesticides and the herbicides
are all scientifically validated, allowed to be in our food,
right, right.
So who science is it?
First of all?
Second of all, the the bestscience project is in my own
laboratory.

(19:03):
Let me test that now.
I haven't taken any umbilicalcord, uh, stem cells from
someone else, right?
I haven't done that.
Um, I have, you have, I have,have, I have.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
And what was your experience?
Um, I've done it about sixtimes.
I've gone down.
I've gone down to Cancun, uh,to a clinic there called re
health, uh, and it isfascinating, and I've taken
friends with me.
I've taken, um, I took myyoungest son.
My youngest son tore his ACLand and did the uh umbilical or
did the IV drip about 250million stem cells.

(19:36):
And how's he doing?
Playing basketball.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Completely normal.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
No surgery so he healed completely.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
We're going in two weeks I'mtaking him because he hurt his
knee.
He plays college basketball.
We're going in two weeks.
They're going to inject hisknee and get an IV drip and I'm
going to get an IV drip.
I've seen some pretty.
I know a guy that had ulcercolitis and pancreatitis.
He got an iv drip.
Took him down to cancun, got aniv drip in an hour.
The dude was healed.

(20:01):
He'd been in the hospitaltaking meds since he was 16
years old, going to the hospitaltwo weeks a year, like dying
almost, and after one iv drip ofstem cells, gone, cured, like
that.
It's been three years and hehasn't had a relapse or anything
.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Wow, I know that's a.
That's a good anecdote, likethat's the type of stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I've had him on the podcast before the the, and he
lives in irvine.
The scientist, his name israfael gonzalez.
He lives in irvine and he's gotthe clinic in cancun and they
just opened one in cabo what'sthe price point?
On it.
It varies on what you're tryingto do, but it's it be hefty,
but also I think it's worth it.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, I think it's also coming down in price as
well, whether it's Panama orCosta Rica.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Panama was one of the first ones, but it's so
difficult to get there.
You know, Cancun from here is afour-hour flight.
Cabo is a two-hour flight.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
And I think Tijuana's got some stuff.
Right now they're working withthe UFC.
Yeah, now they're working withthe UFC.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, but the UFC.
So Dana goes to this clinic,cancun yeah, they're about to
move.
There's some stuff with thatclinic.
I don't know much about thatclinic, but yeah, but anyway, I
mean I just think that'sfascinating.
Also, I find you completelyfascinating, by the way.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So going through your social media, because I do want
to talk about other stem celltreatments, like PRP and that
kind of stuff, or like your ownstem cells, so your own stem
cells I mean.
Ultimately, greens regenerate,greens activate stem cells, so
you want a high-quality greengoing into your body.
You also want grass-fedruminants.
That's why you want grass-fedstuff, right?
Because the animals metabolizethe grasses.

(21:33):
Basically, you're looking atsequestered sunlight, right?
The sun is the source of alllife on planet Earth.
So, however you get that,whether you sit out in the sun I
do that every day my businesspartner, barbaro, who you'll
meet, he's out there two hours aday.
He's an Italian guy and he getsas much nude sun as he can and

(21:56):
that's what really feeds hisbody.
The guy can deadlift and squatand lunge like heavy, heavy
weight.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
But when you say two hours of sun, is it Arizona sun?

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, wow, during the summer too.
Wow, I'll do 20 minutes, orI'll do 20 minutes on my
electric bike to the gym in theheat of the summer, but I need
to kind of be moving.
I can't just lay out.
He is like really addicted tothe sun and it shows up in his
tissues Like he's tan.
He's extremely muscly.

(22:27):
He's got great musculature.
You know he works out, but he'shealthy being in the sun for
two hours.
He can pump serious weight.
He has titanium cookware.
He stays at my house the lastfour years quite a bit here in
Sedona and I've known him for 15years.
He's got titanium cookware.

(22:48):
He shops only at Farmer'sMarket sources.
The best chucks some chickensand onions and parsnips in there
and but you said nude sun.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Is that because I also saw you know you're one of
the first people I saw talkabout you know sunning your
butthole yeah, we're sunningyour testicles right, sunning
all your nether regions.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean you need that.
Girls need it as well.
I mean it actually helps.
You know you've heard of yeastinfections.
You know anything can get alittle funky down there and the
sunlight on that it's only goingto help it.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
But when you sun your butt, like I have in my
backyard.
We've got enough of what arethose plants called that are
really high.
No, the other one, notbougainvilleas.
I want to say these they're notcalled lavender, what's?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
their name.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
No, we have these huge Trees.
I love it.
We have these huge bushes Iforget what they're called, but
anyway.
So I kind of felt like I had acompound and so I saw your video
I'm going to say about a yearago, maybe you were talking
about it so I wanted to try it,but I was so nervous my
neighbors were going to seeinside, I didn't know the.

(23:59):
So I was like you know, I waslike in the backyard on the
basketball court, you know,trying to do this whole deal,
and then I'm like how long doyou do?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
it for.
And then I thought, if the sunhits me here, won't it just the
good vibes go around, or no sure?
So the the word around thecampfire on the butthole sunning
.
And my friend who studiedkundalini yoga, rah of earth you
can find him online as well.
He started this trend in 2018.
We were doing 2019, we weredoing a men's retreat at my
business partner's house andhe's got 10 teepees out there

(24:24):
some ranch up in Kern County,california.
And he was like in the next 30seconds, these men will go out
and get as much sun as you wouldif you're out in the sun for
eight hours with all yourclothes on, and so, and then he,
he, he, he shines it on the mengoing towards the teepees.
It was just, it was just filmwise, it just was perfect.

(24:46):
And then he said, in the next30 seconds, he got the camera on
himself and then he showed theguys and they all had their,
their legs in the air right nextto the teepees, and you know,
with nudity and stuff, you can'tshow nudity.
So they were kind of in theshade.
You know.
There was nothing shown.
Anyways, johnny Knoxvilleshared it and it went viral.
This went super viral.

(25:08):
It went all the way down toAustralia on their morning shows
and then it went back up toAmerica and then it went to TMZ
and it went to Rolling Stone andNew York Post, and because I
was friends with him and Ishared some of those posts, I
also got implicated Me,metaphysical Megan and Ra of

(25:30):
Earth, and so basically, you'vegot all three layers of your
epidermis that coagulate intoyour anal orifice and so
basically, if you're getting 30seconds to like say, let's say,
five minutes or something likethat, and you're getting the
sunlight in there, it's a way tocharge up the body and this
comes from ancient yogicteachings, I believe.

(25:51):
All that stuff works for me.
So so it's just a tool in thetoolbox.
But my business partner, helays out, and he just lays out
nude and uh, like I said, itdefinitely shows up in his
tissues.
Um, I think I also know from myown experience it helps me build
and maintain my musculature themore tan that I get, and so it

(26:14):
it's very healing, it's very.
You know, if you have a hardworkout, you want to make sure
you get in the sun.
You know hot Epsom salt baths.
These things are excellent forrecovery and it's not like it's
something new or weird.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's the sun.
Well, what about?
How do you handle sun damage,like on your face?
Do you have a skincare routine?

Speaker 2 (26:35):
So, what I learned from the Italians because I was
a model for many years and inthe early 90s is when all this
hype around sunscreen came outand you got to wear sunscreen
and my agent moved to MiamiGianni Versace.
My agent from Miami helpedGianni Versace.

(26:55):
My agent from Miami helpedGianni Versace buy that property
on Ocean Drive.
And then my agents from Milanwould come and either vacation
and one of my agents actuallygot a job at the agency I was
with, and so Tino Beretta washis name and I was like he would
literally ride his bike to thebeach and they would lay out in

(27:18):
the sun for nine hours.
And I asked him I go, whatabout all this?
Everybody's worried aboutsunscreen.
He's like we're Italian, we eatthe Mediterranean diet, the
olive oil, and we don't worryabout any of that stuff.
So the research that I showed.
So, first of all, if you'rewearing sunglasses, it blocks
the natural frequencies of lightthat help you produce a hormone

(27:41):
that protects yourself againstthe sun.
So that's step number one.
So I got rid of my sunglassesand I wore the best designer
sunglasses for years and I threwthose things away as soon as I
found that out.
The other thing is yourantioxidants.
So I don't wear sunglasses thatblock out the UV rays and I eat

(28:03):
high-quality, antioxidant-richfood, and I also have good fats
in my body Is that blueberries?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
What are antioxidant-rich foods?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Anything that has carotenoids in it, so
beta-carotene, proanthocyanidins, anything that's purple or
orange or yellow.
Those are naturally going toprotect you against the sun, and
so I've been juicing for 35years.
So any kind of carrots, ginger,turmeric.

(28:33):
You know I eat acai over theyears as well, and I work with a
lot of herbs.
Dragon's blood, which is thehighest concentrated source of
antioxidants, and just a lot ofplants have certain terpenes and
alkaloids that naturallyprotect you against the
environment.
And we used to be like huntersand gatherers, and if we were
starving, we'd figure out okay,what can I eat?
Right, if there was nothing, ifwe missed the hunt, okay, can

(28:57):
we collect some acorns?
Can we?
You know what is edible, whatkind of tuber roots are in the
ground, what's edible?
And so, and when we were morein tune with nature it's like an
animal, animals aren't likelistening to hours of Hooberman
to figure out what's edible.

(29:17):
They're natural, intuitive, andwe used to be that way as well,
and so that's how wecommunicated with the plants and
we know what plants work forwhat that's like.
The indians in the amazon theyknow that ayahuasca mixed with
chacruna makes the ayahuascabrew.
That is what they call thephone home, right, the spiritual
connection, and so, um, andthis sounds all a little fruity,

(29:41):
because we're all doped up onscientism right now, and if it
doesn't have reams of data andscientifically proven, then we
don't want to listen to it.
Right?
But why is that?
Because that's the rockefellerscreated the flexner report and
they ixnade all the naturalmedicine that we'd used for
millennia before that.
And now we have to defer andbow down to anything that's

(30:01):
state mandated and universitycreated.
And who creates the curriculumfor the universities?
The Rockefellers again.
So Rockefeller Medicine is anexcellent documentary if you can
still find it on youtube jamescorbett, the journalist, um um,
he lives in japan, but he'samazing and and I don't even

(30:22):
know if he still exists if hegot, he might have got wiped off
the internet do you have a lotof people coming after you?
you have a lot of uh whatever um, for some reason, I you know
I'm I'm able to slip below theradar to a certain degree.
I I got pretty censored in 2020.
This election, I just set up ameditation marathon and I didn't

(30:43):
do as much commentary and wegot through it right.
The last election it was like Icouldn't say anything at all
and good friends of mine, jpSears he got censored.
Some of these guys weremonetized on YouTube.
I'd never been monetized onYouTube so I wasn't worried
about that but I did getcensored on Instagram and
Facebook.

(31:04):
I mean, I constantly gotcensored, flagged.
Some of my stuff still getsflagged.
I'm not the favorite guy of thedrug company algorithms because
I'm a natural medicine guy, soI can get so far, but I have to
be good at entertainment reallyto get to the next level.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
But it also works.
I mean, you're 59.
You look fantastic, you know.
So the I mean it works.
Everything you practice, whatyou preach, correct and not only
that.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
but I have colleagues all around the world and I've
got an army of wellness warriorsthat are working with me that
are also doing that, and if it'spossible for us, then it's
possible for everyone.
Have you heard of the onenessmovement?
No, but sounds good.
We're all one anyways.
What?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
about like red light beds.
We talked about red light early.
Do you believe in the red lightbeds?
And that's technology?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, red light has application.
That's why I think it'simportant to go out during
sunrise and sunset.
Red light has huge application.
It's kind of weird that they'respraying the chem trails,
especially during sunset, andthey block.
They try and block that out.
But red light is a certainfrequency and it has total
application.
If you get a red light device,it can help you with recovery,
especially if you're an athlete,and red light has application.

(32:19):
Far infrared saunas get deeperinto the cells.
You like sauna.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yes, of course I love sauna.
We sauna before we got here.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, I did the sauna today too, and cold plunge At
the gym.
I didn't do a cold plunge today.
We cold plunge every day, sweet, every day.
Yeah, you got a cold plunge atyour house or at the gym.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
At both.
But at my house I do it, I dothe morning show.
So I cold plunge at 3 am, ohyeah, and then I'll cold plunge
at noon.
I cold plunge before I camehere.
It'd give me a a lot WooElectricity.
Wait, I saw this one video youwere talking about, because I
also like deep breathing and Isaw this video and I didn't

(33:00):
watch the whole thing because Iwanted to ask you about it.
You were doing short breathsreally fast.
Breath of fire, that's what,yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Can you tell me a little bit More of the?
Those are more of breathing out, breath of fire, because you're
autonomically going to breathein, right, right, so pumping the
belly button into the heart.
This is, you know, just ayogi's figured this out for a
minute, or like what's the?
time frame uh, you can do it aslong as you can maintain it, um,

(33:27):
and if you do it, I do itpretty fast, so I would have to
slow it down if I was going tomaintain it for longer periods
of time.
Uh, I've talked to people thatdo the white lightning tantric
and, um, it's the kundalinifestival every spring or
solstice I think summer solsticethey go to new mexico and you

(33:48):
like, hold one hand in the airand you stare the other person
in, in, in, in in the eyeballand maybe even do one nostril
for an hour and you go throughyour shit, man, like, whatever
it is, man, you're just going tobreathe through it.
So, yeah, the yogis figured outsome interesting stuff.

(34:11):
Hicks and Gracie figured it outas well, and it was exemplified
in that movie called Choke.
I don't know if you're aBrazilian jiu-jitsu guy, but Not
all the way.
I'm very enamored with Gracie,jiu-jitsu and what they've
brought to the table, and Ifollow his son, krohn, gracie,
who I consider a friend of mineas well, and they do some very

(34:32):
powerful breathing techniquesand I don't think they studied
yoga, but they figured that out.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
What's your take on?
Do you have any naturalremedies for like?
I don't even know how to say itright.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Arteriosclerosis.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Arteriosclerosis In the heart, like calcium in your
heart and stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
So the way I look at it is that we are a series of
tubes.
Right, you've got veins,ventricles, even the bone marrow
in your bones, cataracts.
These are all clogged tubesDiverticulitis, colon cancer.
So we are a series of tubes.
You're totally tubular dude,right, right.

(35:10):
And so most of our tubes, mostof our issues we have, are
clogged tubes arteriosclerosis,diverticulitis, cataracts.
How do you unclog?
Fasting?
Fasting is the best way andfasting was built into our
society through hunting andgathering.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
So fast and you think you'll be able to clean the
tubes in the heart it goesthrough.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
We go through a process called autophagy, where
the body scavenges its own deadcells and whatever else is in
the way.
It also goes through a processcalled ketosis, and so that's
fat burning and scavenging, andso the body will just eat itself
.
And there's other variousprocesses scavenging, and so the

(35:57):
body will just eat itself.
And there's other variousprocesses.
The chinese, you know theywould do bloodletting,
acupuncture, massage.
You know reflexology beat theshit out of your feet, beat the
shit out of wherever there'sstagnation.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Reflexology makes so much sense to me.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Right, I mean all the nerve endings in the bottom of
your feet so my understanding isthat the body automatically
heals itself if we can just getout of its own way and open up
the channels.
And so, whether it's thereflexology and the feet, I've
also practiced this onetechnique called Pita, where
they slap you in your meridiansand it brings all the blood to

(36:29):
the corpuscles and any kind ofstagnation has to go through
there and that also releases thestem cells.
We were talking about stemcells earlier and I practiced
the ancient art of Shabambu,which is urine therapy, and that
is also stem cells.
The research behind that Ithink it's on the NIH website,
and my friends Dr Edward Groupand Jonathan Otto own a, a

(36:54):
website called UrineTherapycom,and there's about 104 stem cells
in your morning urine.
If you let that sit and fermentin a mason jar for three weeks,
it has hundreds of millions ofstem cells.
And those things are free,right, you can go down to Cancun
and I'm sure they work right,they have application.
You've gotten good results fromthat and also you're also

(37:16):
shooting someone else's.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
So your first urine in a jar.
Save it for three weeks.
Do you continue to urinate inthe same jar?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, fill it, yeah, and you can pour off the top and
then you drink it.
Or what do you do with it?
You can drink it and I've drankit before.
What is urine therapy Topically?
Oh, you put the age stuff ontopically.
I've been drinking my own urinefor just maybe an ounce or so

(37:49):
in the morning.
First thing in the morning it's, it's uh, it's more of a
biofeedback loop, but the urinehas antigens, antibodies, cell
salts, amino acids and uh.
And then, if you age it, it hasstem cells it has.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Isn't that the waste of the body, like your body's
getting rid of stuff it's about,I think.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I heard it was about like 0.3% toxins, but they come
in the form of metabolites andso it's not pure waste.
That comes out mostly in yourfeces, but also your lungs is
the largest organ ofdetoxification.
So the off-gassing of yourlungs and the thing you're doing

(38:32):
at the cellular level the twothings that you're doing at the
cellular level is you're takingin nutrition and that same
nutrition assists the bodycellularly in getting out the
waste.
So ones and zeros, so the samefood that you're taking in has
the ability to also detoxify thebody.
It's fascinating.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
What about IV drips?
Do you do stuff like that, ordo you get all your vitamins
naturally from everywhere else?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I do as much as I can .
Naturally, I live in the modernworld.
So one of my friends she camefrom Chernobyl and she came
through a recommendation of me.
I met her up in Sedona and shehealed herself and some of her
family members because Chernobylwas a wasteland with all that

(39:18):
radiation and she had thyroidissues and all sorts of stuff
and she used the NAD drips and Ihad mold exposure from 2010 to
2013.
And it affected meneurologically.
It affected me quite a bit,especially when it comes to
chronic fatigue.
I was exhausted and so I waswilling and open to trying

(39:44):
anything.
And when I moved down here,somebody had an IV drip center
and I figured I'd try it, and soI didn't see that the NAD
really moved the needle forwardthat much I mean.
Basically, that's why I callmyself the certified health nut.
I've scoured the planet for thebest healing methodologies and

(40:06):
modalities.
Now I'm not afraid of drugs,pharmaceutical drugs.
I just know that syntheticshave, uh, a short life and can
create more imbalances thancertainly curative.
Right, and it usually treatssymptomology, um, and nad is
supposed to activate your ownbody's ability to regenerate

(40:29):
itself.
Um, so I did.
It didn't move the needle.
That much.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
How long do you do for?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I only did one, one drip.
Well, I did, uh, a week's worth.
I did like four hours, fourdays in a row.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Okay, which is done nad for a while and I do.
I was doing the drip, I wasgetting like a thousand
milligrams and it.
You know it's terrible.
When you, I would try I wouldget it in 30 minutes.
Yeah, well, that it was.
It was I didn't want to waitfour hours and then now I do an
injection once a week and itfeels a little queasy.
But I just you know, yeah, areyou getting the results?

(41:04):
I don't know, because I'mafraid I don't know what I'd be
like if I wasn't doing thisstuff.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I've done.
I do all these things and Ifeel like I can operate.
I mean, for a guy I don't get alot of sleep for my because of
my job.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Well, I was just going to say so I body's fucking
sleep I know, I know I got theaura ring, I got the whoop.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I mean, do you monitor your sleep?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
So here's my thing on testing blood tests, genetic
tests, it pretty much they mayhave application, but why do you
need that?
When you have the mirror and thetoilet bowl, you know what you
look and feel like, and so, andif you're not optimizing your
sleep, if you're not optimizingyour nutrition, you're not
optimizing your movement andyou're not optimizing your water

(41:47):
I have nine pillars of healthin my book, and so you have all
these natural components Ifyou're not getting grounded
every day, if you're not gettingoptimal sunlight every day, if
you're not optimizing yourbreathing mechanics, if you're
not optimizing your postureright, we have so many fulcrum

(42:08):
points because I teach peoplehow to do things without
synthetic hormones, withouttestosterone replacement therapy
.
Hopefully I get them beforethey get it administered,
because once you subjugate yourexogenous, your endogenous
hormones with exogenous hormones, then it's hard to go back.
And the same thing can be saidfor women with Hashimoto's and

(42:30):
thyroid issues.
There are no isolated hormones.
People want testosterone.
What's your fucking sleep?
And so, excuse me, I don't knowif you can swear on this one.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, you can swear.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
And so what is your sleep hygiene?
What does your circadianrhythms look like?
What does your blue light uselook like?
What does your nutrition looklike?
What does your poop look like?
These are all basic,fundamental principles.
So no matter what drugs orintravenous synthetics that
you're using, it really doesn'tmatter if you don't have these

(43:04):
fundamentals down.
It doesn't matter what yourblood looks like if you don't
have these fundamentals down.
It doesn't matter what yourblood looks like if you're not,
if you don't have thesefundamentals down.
Because once you start takingnatural substances into your
body, they're going to naturallyget out the heavy metals, the
greens, the binders, the herbs.
They're naturally going tochelate and bind these toxins
and take them out of the body.

(43:25):
But if you're not doing thatand you're eating seed oils and
you're not getting to sleepproperly, then all the fancy
stuff doesn't matter.
There's no need for the fancystuff until we've covered our
basics.
How many hours of sleep do youget?
I'm a nine-hour guy and I dopretty much eight hours minimum.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Are you a guy like I'm going to bed at eight or
nine, no matter what?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
I would love to be that guy and I do get better
sleep.
Then I'm also a modern dayhuman.
I'm just like everybody else.
I have the same problems, ifnot worse.
I like to say I'm more fuckedup than most people you know,
and that's why I have all thesepractices, because nothing's
worse than someone who's anasshole and a, you know, a

(44:09):
fucking tyrannical TyrannosaurusRex, right.
And so for me to be the mostbalanced human of service, then
I utilize these practices thatcall my nervous system down,
regulate my nervous system, so Ican be more at peace for my
children, for my business, mybusiness partners be available
for my clients and the peoplethat I serve.

(44:30):
And so that's why I do what Ido.
When you say your clients,because otherwise I was a
drunken mess, right, right,right.
When you say your clients.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
You help people through fitness, through life,
through health.
Oh, all aspects of it, you sellsupplements Are, oh, all
aspects of it.
You sell supplements.
Are there certified Herthnutsupplements?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yes, I work with an organic superfood company.
One of my business partnersowns that company.
He's been doing it for 35 years.
What's the website?
The website is ishoppuriumcomand my gift card code is
Certified Health Nut.
I've been with him for 11 years.
It's a vertically integrated,family-owned company.

(45:06):
We are the source, themanufacturer and the distributor
.
We own farmland in utah onvolcanic ash beds, so super high
quality organic, bioavailablematerials and we juice it and
dehydrate it.
On our farms we have heirloomseeds of wheatgrass.

(45:26):
I'll give you some after theshow to taste as well.
I've been in business with himfor 11 years.
I just focus on the sales andmarketing.
People are already coming to mefor solutions.
What I tell my healthpractitioners or other people
that I work with?
If you're not monetizing, ifyou're not locking up your

(45:49):
clients options for organicnutrition, then nine times out
of 10, they're going to bemarketed garbage by the guy
somebody else, because most ofthe supplements on the market
are absolute garbage fillers,binders, carcinogens, artificial
coloring, artificial flavoring.
Do you sell protein powders?
We have a variety of everything.

(46:09):
We we have pea protein.
Everything's all natural,organic creatine we don't have
creatine.
Creatine's an isolate, so wehave um um but do you take
creatine?
you know, I was taking creatineand I took it in my late
twenties and I took it recently,when I started gaining weight

(46:31):
after I wrote my book.
And so, um, I took it for twoyears straight and, uh, my
kidneys were really affecting meand uh, they were, they were
burning, they were very sore,and so I did a kidney cleanse
recently, um, and it went awaycompletely.

(46:52):
You drink a lot of water andthen, uh, I drink adequate
amount of high qualitystructured water, yes and so,
because water is not really thequantity, it's the quality, and
you want to make sure it'sabsorbing into your body, and so
it's structured, whether youstructure it with salt or you
structure it with superfoods.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Do you structure it with salt electrolytes or do you
put in a bath of salt?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I can, and I have at least three structuring devices
at my house, three or fourFascinating man.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I've asked you like a billion questions this time.
I'm sorry, kemp, do you haveanything you want to ask?
I've been going on.
I'm sorry, I just felt like itwas just you and me here.
I was just in the zone with you.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
It's all good.
Sorry, kemp.
Well, this is way earlier.
I was just like fascinated youdo the juice cleanse and I've
watched him and my mom do juice.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
What is your go-to juice, if there's your favorite
one, taste-wise ormedicinal-wise, both Okay.
So taste-wise I think I'mreally Well and everything
changes too.
So right now I'm loving thecarrot orange it's about
two-thirds orange.
I like the vitamin C,especially after a workout, and
the organic juice bar that'snear my house has that.

(48:08):
I'll shoot four ounces ofginger down the neck first and
that kind of burns, so I kind ofchase it with the carrot orange
.
So for taste I'll do that.
If I want to flush my liver orI'm a little constipated, I will
get a very strong beet celeryparsley, a little bit of green

(48:30):
apple Green apple doesn't spikethe glycemic index and then I'll
hit that with strong ginger too.
So strong ginger, strong beets,that will flush bile secretion
through the liver.
Do you recommend a juicer?
You know I do.
The thing is is is they'requite labor intensive and I
juiced hardcore for 25 yearsalmost.

(48:52):
I had a.
I had every jack la lane juiceman, I had that too, but I would
go through them.
I would literally wear theparts out they're just a mess
well, they're just a cheapermachine, right.
And then I bought a champion andI had it for 20 years.
So the champion made by theplastic cat company, it's just a

(49:13):
workhorse, it's a.
It's a one and a halfhorsepower motor.
It's heavy.
I had the one I got was givento me and I had it
re-manufactured for like $75 andit still lasted 20 years.
And then what happened was, as Iwas shopping at the farmer's
market I was living in SantaMonica, that was part of my
thing that I did.
Even when my kids were small, Ihad, I had a real expensive

(49:36):
stroller that I could take, onehanded off the curb and stuff
filled with vegetables, and uh,then they started going to
school and I kind of had totransport them and the schedule
kind of changed and so, and plus, juicing is a 45-minute journey
, right, cleaning, cleaning upjuicing.
So now I pay someone to juiceit for me at the juice bar, as

(49:58):
long as I can find a localorganic juice bar, otherwise I
work with the superfoods that Ihave two scoops and water and
I'm out the door.
I'll make you some in a littlewhile.
Yeah, I'd love that.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
It tastes amazing and so you get the highest quality
organic juice without juicing Idid what I did 16 days of
juicing, nothing but juice for16 days and I'll never forget I
think it was day 14 I liftedmore weight than I've ever
lifted in my entire life.
Bench press, yeah, I was like,well, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
But at some point.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I felt like, and I had so much energy but I was
missing food.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I felt like something was up, but it was 16 days yeah
, I've done 17 days on juice in2007 and I ended up I ended up
losing too much muscle at theend of the day.
So one part of the program thatI work, I have predigested
vegan amino acids so super clean, made out of non-soy based

(50:53):
legumes.
So they're derived from food,but they are synthesized.
They have the perfect aminoacid formulation so they build
muscle whether you're workingout or not.
They're designed for renalpatients wasting away in
hospital beds, so they're notgoing to get you yoked, right,
but you're not going to lose anylean muscle mass you have so

(51:14):
much information in your brain.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I just want to like you know what I mean.
It's crazy, man.
Are you right now sitting herewith us in any kind of pain?
Do you have any aches or painin your body anywhere?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
nope, that's amazing not, not right now.
I mean, I went to the gym today.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I worked out any kinks already yeah, I mean, I
got like a little hip pain orsomething like that.
That I'm working on.
But anyway, any other questions, kevin one more.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Um, so you travel a lot.
That's just like something Igained from conversations, like
before and researching you.
What do you do like to helpwith travel?
Because, like for us, like weplay basketball, we travel all
the time from, especiallybecause it's in hawaii.
We go six hours and so it'slike all this traveling.
What do you do to help withtravel?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
so everything that I talk about and I put this in my
book as well the nine pillars ofhealth, um, traveling is a
weird animal today.
Right, I traveled before TSAand I love travel, and so it's
very stressful, and the TSAagents are designed to make it

(52:19):
even more stressful.
I think somehow there's somekind of social engineering
coming out of whoever istraining those people.
And you know, trump fired theTSA chief, the second he got in
because I think of the hasslethey gave Tulsi Gabbard recently
, and so I'm not the only one.
Ted Nugent is a friend of mineand he's a rock star from the

(52:41):
70s and he no longer travelscommercially either.
Um and so and I'm almost at thatposition, so I'll just speak I
just want to say that, becausetraveling is extremely stressful
, you can take um medical gradewater.
So you got the hipaa act.
Water is medical grade.

(53:03):
You need it, so you can claimthat.
So you can bring glass bottlewater through.
I think there's a water companyout there that got it approved.
Bottom line is if you know thelaws, you can bring water in
with you, so making sure thatyou've got pure water,
definitely hydrating yourself.
I like to take a hot Epsom saltbath before, and I know if

(53:23):
you're playing sports, sometimesthe dorms or whatever doesn't
always have.
My son plays hockey so, and Iknow how beat up he got last
year as well, because they workthem seven days a week and then
they got travel on top of it.
So first of all, there's it'smajor stress, so don't mess
around with your nutrition.
Always upgrade your nutritionas much as you can, getting the
best for you.
Nutrition as much as you can,getting the best for you.

(53:44):
Getting the best sleep is superimportant.
Hot Epsom salt baths are goingto lower stress levels because
most people are magnesiumdeficient and Epsom salts are
loaded with magnesium.
You know, if you're magnesiumdeficient and most of us are, if
you take an Epsom salt bathwith six pounds of Epsom salts
and you sleep like a baby.

(54:04):
Take an Epsom salt bath withsix pounds of Epsom salts and
you sleep like a baby.
So that can help you.
Also, I don't recommend goingthrough the backscatters, the
radiation devices inside theairports, and so again back to
TSA and TSA pre-check.
And even though I gotpre-checked, they still want to
check me and so.
But I don't go through the backscatters because that's going

(54:25):
to wear you out as well how doyou avoid that?
don't they make you go throughit.
You, you get, you get anopt-out.
You have to opt out, and thisis where the psychological
conditioning and the socialengineering they make you feel
like a criminal.
Right if you do that.
But it's your, it's your rightand so, and they're designed to
do that right.
It's their job to pat you down.
But now they're patting youdown, especially in the last

(54:46):
year or since COVID.
They go really rough and I'vegot hair on my body and they
start ripping my hair out.
So I've had to start yelling atthem and telling them not to
abuse me.
And it's not cool.
And they think it's cool andit's people that are hired at
the lower rung of skill level,and so it's a big social

(55:09):
engineering clusterfuck.
How do you deal with?

Speaker 1 (55:13):
jet lag and all that.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
So jet lag?
I think if it's big jet lag youcan do with fasting, because
jet lag has a lot to do witheating when you're supposed to
be eating, pooping when you'resupposed to be eating and eating
when you're supposed to bepooping, so your metabolism is
turned upside down.
So if you can turn on a fastand maybe if you need help

(55:37):
clearing out the colon, you cando the salt water.
Flush two tablespoons of highquality sea salt first thing in
the morning in warm water.
About a quart of water willflush your whole intestinal
tract out.
Now I don't know if you can dothat if you got a game or
something like that.
There's also some herbalintestinal formulas that will

(55:58):
help with intestinal motility tostart evacuating your bowels as
well.
Dr Schultz, one of my mentors,intestinal formula number one is
excellent for that.
But again you got to time itright, so you're not all suited
up.
My son played hockey, so it'slike you know.
You got to get all thatequipment off to go take a shit,
you know it's not gonna.
It's not gonna work, but if youhave a day off, you can time

(56:20):
that and so, and then again, thepredigested amino acids that I
work with are excellent to makesure that you're not staving off
any muscle and the the theorganic nutrients that I have I
think everybody should be on thenutrients that I have, because
they're very applicable and wewant organic nutrients and
micronutrients going into ourbody.

(56:41):
You're going to have to sourcethe best macronutrients wherever
you are, whether you're in thistown, and you're going to have
to source the bestmacronutrients wherever you are.
Whether you're in this town andyou're going out to dinner with
your dad, or whether you're,you know, playing basketball in
Hawaii or whatever it is.
You're going to need nutrients,and so it's important to pay
attention to your micronutrients.
As well as your macronutrients,vitamins, minerals, enzymes,

(57:02):
terpenes, alkaloids these arethe types of things you can get
straight from our farms straightto your family, so there's no
excuse for people not to eatorganic food.
Right now.
We can deliver it straight toyou.
I help people save time andmoney at the grocery store.
Plus we get it off your plate,so it's not a stress.
Where am I going to eat?
What am I going to get Boom?
Just get these nutrients downyour neck and you'll be fine and

(57:25):
you can start there.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
What's the website again?

Speaker 2 (57:28):
It's ishoppuriumcom and the discount code is
certifiedhealthnut.
You can go to my website,certifiedhealthnutcom and it
should be up there.
You can find me on Instagramand write me a DM.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Support at certifiedhealthnutcom which is
emailed from my team.
Are you handling all that or do?

Speaker 2 (57:47):
you have a, my team helps me out with everything.
I mean I'll help anyone andtake an order for anyone or text
them if I'm in front of them,but otherwise I just connect
them to my team because I don'twant to just sell products to
people.
My team will help you satisfyyour answers, because I want
dedicated, healthy customers.

(58:08):
I don't want to just make moneyoff of people.
That's not what I'm here to do.
My mission is to raise humanconsciousness and change all
systems.
My vision is clean air, water,soil and equitable systems for
all mankind in my lifetime.
And so no one's free untilwe're all free.
And so we've got the debt slavesystem and we've got our
materials being mined in Africaby little children and so and

(58:32):
our oil being extricated fromthird world countries like
Afghanistan, syria.
Those are pipelines.
Then you've got Libya, numbernine producer of oil, venezuela.
We've seen what globalism hasdone to that country.
We've got Ecuador and Peru, thenumber five and six producers
of oil worldwide, and thedestruction of the rainforest

(58:53):
subsequently for that oilexploration.
And then you've got Iraq, iran,saudi Arabia, and we occupy
basically those lands.
And then you got the Sudan andall the stuff in half in Africa.
So I'm a big picture guy.
My mentors told me you can'tsave the world, troy.
And I'm like, yeah, well, watch.
I have a responsibility as ahuman being and I've had visions

(59:14):
and I believe that I've beengifted.
As you know, the creator, youknow, has gifted me and I have a
responsibility as a man, and alot of these ideas came from me
when I was in the Amazon working, witnessing the mountains of
sawdust and witnessing therainforest being cut down for
industry.
And I came out of the jungle.

(59:34):
I read a book calledConfessions of an Economic
Hitman to really understand theway of the world and it's just.
It's time to change if we areto survive.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Man, let's end it there.
Dude, that was good, that wasgreat.
Do you travel with all thejuices?
Because I saw you pull out acooler.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, let me bring this out now.
Yeah, might as well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Mixologist.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
So I don't always travel with this.
My business partner, davidSandoval, was left the legacy of
Ann Wigmore.
She's the mother of wheatgrass,so these, this wheatgrass,
comes from the Egyptian tombs.

(01:00:23):
They had seeds of heirloomwheatgrass, which is called
kamut, and so we've been growingthem on volcanic ash beds for
the last 30 years.
And it has spirulina in it,which is astronaut food,
activated barley, which is foodof the gladiators, so very dense

(01:00:46):
nutrition.
It's also pre-digested.
This comes in a plasticcontainer.
This is our old packaging.
The company is now plastic free.
We have all of our packages,even in our herbal capsules.
They come in hemp, tree sap andbamboo.
I didn't bring the packagingwith us, but we're a

(01:01:09):
plastic-free company.
There's not too many companiesout there that are plastic-free.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Would this be considered a multivitamin?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
It's loaded with vitamins, minerals and enzymes,
so you could consider it that.
And it's bioavailable, so it'snot like an isolated nutrient.
It's not.
There's no fillers, there's nobinders, so you're going to get
it's basically loaded with betacarotene and minerals.
So basically, what you want isthe minerals in the water, the

(01:01:42):
food or anything that you'redrinking, which gives you the
electricity.
And then the next thing thatyou're getting is bio-photons,
which is bioenergetics from thesun.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Will you drink this whole jar?
Is this a day?
Is this a setting?
Is this?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
You can have this and some of my amino acids and
that's a complete mealreplacement.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Wow, so it's a meal replacement.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
But this right now, is just nutrients, which is just
energy, ultimately.
So that's carrot juice,activated barley, spirulina,
wheatgrass, organic apple,organic berry.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I said don't drink it .
We've got to drink it at thesame time.
Cheers to your health.
Cheers, Apple organic berry.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
You said don't drink it.
We've got to drink it at thesame time.
I know I'm smelling it.
Cheers, cheers to your health.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Cheers, l'chaim, l'chaim, here you go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
This tastes pretty good, yeah, it does.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah, we made it taste good for the commercial
market because, let's face it,wheatgrass tastes like shit for
most people.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Or cardboard, and so about 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
It tastes really good .
It does it's like vanilla yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
He put organic.
Here you can have some Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
He put organic apple, organic berry and monk fruit in
there.
What do you think of you know?
You said you like acai.
Do you like the pitaya bowls?

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
and all that, or acai bowls, I do Anywhere where I
can.
I can get, you know, real goodnutrients.
I'm happy, uh, the only thing II did a little deep dive on on,
uh, sugar recently and they say, you know, if you really want
to knock out sugar, then go forabout 50 grams.
And I was having an acaismoothie at least once a day and
those things are like a hundred.
And I was having an acaismoothie at least once a day and

(01:03:27):
those things are like 100.
And I was like, oh, but thepurple definitely is really good
for you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
And so the antioxidants.
What about?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
the ube?
Is it called ube?
The purple potatoes?
Oh, I've eaten them before.
My body doesn't like potatoesand everyone's different, right.
So you've got to rotateeverything.
Just because it's good for oneguy doesn't mean it's good for
you.
So you rotate everything andthen whatever you can get down
the neck and digest is good.
Potatoes are nightshades andnightshades don't agree with me

(01:03:59):
that much, no but there's theone, the Blue Zones.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
You see that there was a show on Netflix about the
blue zones, these people livingto be 100.
Yeah, and one of the thingsthey all had in common, whether
they're in Japan or Italy orsomething, is they all had these
things called.
I think it was called ube.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Ube, yeah, purple, they were purple potatoes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
And in Hawaii, when I went to go visit him, they got
ube in everything, everywhere.
They put them in smoothies,they put it in pancakes, they
put it everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I've never seen that anywhere else, except we weren't
a blue zone.
I don't think, oh, I know.
Well, I don't know, maybe soon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Well, I think you can get nutrients from almost
anything.
You know, and, again, you knowwhat works for you.
That's all that really matters.
You got to call it at the endof the day.
You were talking about earlierabout the milk.
So the igf1, the growth factorone, that's what makes a cow go
from um, from was it 100 poundsto 800 pounds in one year, right

(01:04:54):
?
Well, that's going to help ayoung human being as well,
especially when you're lookingat mandible building, right,
which is directly related totestosterone production.
The child has as muchtestosterone as an adult does,
and so, if it's properlydeveloped and so getting these
nutrients into the body, westonA Price has an excellent book

(01:05:17):
where he studied indigenouscultures, and raw milk has its
application, and so if itdigests and if it works for you.
It's not going to work foreveryone, but it is a tool.
I make sure we get threegallons a week for my two
children, which are bothathletes, me and my business

(01:05:38):
partner.
We have some pea protein and agut formula called Epigenius
Family, and I usually do threeor four scoops in that and some
raw milk after the gym.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
This is surprisingly really good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I know it's basically drinking your vegetables, right
?

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Each one of these is like six servings of fruits and
vegetables, but if you're byyourself, if I made that in the
morning, do I drink that allbefore I go to work or do I
drink it throughout the day?

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
No.
I like to drink it when it'sfresh and the enzymes are rich,
right.
So we dehydrate everything atair temperatures on the farms,
so when you add water to it, itreconstitutes.
It's all living.
This is like living juice.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
What do you think about magnesium pills or
magnesium?
I take magnesium packets tohelp me sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Spray magnesium is going to be better.
I got a company out of Canada.
Ian Clark had leukemia when hewas 46, and he's like 20 years
later, no longer has any of thatstuff.
He scoured the planet.
No, it's for your skin.
Spray it on the skin.
It's transdermal.
Oh, wow, yeah.
Activate activation productsPlus greens, so greens.

(01:06:58):
Energy from the sun convertedthrough photosynthesis creates
the chlorophyll.
Chlorophyll is the exact samematch to your hemoglobin.
Hemoglobin and chlorophyll isthe exact match, but there's an
electron transfer, iron in thehemoglobin and magnesium in the
chlorophyll, so it'smagnesium-rich.
Anything that's green ismagnesium-rich.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
On that note, brother , thank you for coming in.
I know you're a real busy manand it was really cool to have
you.
It was really a pleasure andthanks for letting my son
interview you too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Yeah, thank you, yeah , yeah, super grateful for the
opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Okay, so welcome to our podcast.
This is a little bit differenttoday, because this podcast is a
spinoff of our radio show.