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August 27, 2025 β€’ 32 mins

In this deeply moving episode, I sit down with ShawntiRefuge, founder of Mothering in the Dark, a support group that addresses one of the most painful and often silenced experiences in family life - estrangement from our children. Shawnti courageously shares her unique perspective, havingexperienced estrangement from both sides of the relationship.

πŸ” In our conversation,we explore:

What makes Shawnti's work so vital is her understanding that healing doesn't always mean reconciliation, and that mothers experiencing estrangement deserve support, community, and freedom from shame. Her approachthrough Mothering in the Dark creates space for the conversations most people are afraid to have.

This episode is for anyone who has experienced familyestrangement, knows someone going through this journey, or wants to better understand this often misunderstood form of grief.

#TheLivedExperiencesPodcast #ShawntiRefuge#MotheringInTheDark #FamilyEstrangement #Grief #Healing #CommunitySupport#PodcastInterview #NewEpisode

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Chapters:

00:00 Understanding Estrangement: A Personal Journey

08:03 The Unique Grief of Living Estrangement

09:42 Breaking Generational Patterns of Disconnection

10:39 Creating Safe Spaces: Mothering in the Dark

14:40 The Importance of Accountability and Healing

15:07 The Journey of Reconciliation and Healing

17:12 The Power of Journaling in Healing

19:09 Facing Old Wounds and Seeking Support

21:25 Navigating the Honeymoon Phase in Relationships

24:48 Finding Purpose and Community Support


Stay Connected: Dr. Tamea Ryan

🌐 Website:www.thelivedexp.com

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πŸ‘₯ Facebook: The LivedExperiences

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Stay Connected: Shawnti Refuge

🌐 Website: www.shawntirefuge.com

πŸ“± Instagram: @shawntirefugejournals

πŸ‘₯ Facebook: ShawntiRefuge Journals

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