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March 3, 2020 44 min

In Episode 1, Matt and Alex talk about managing *yourself* when you’re a manager. Designing your time and getting curious about your inner experience increases the capacity to manage others well. This episode discusses recommendations for task management, mental health, working with fear, and more.

We believe great management makes the world a better place. At Clearbit, we’re writing a handbook to train our managers, and we’re sharing it online at Each episode of this podcast accompanies a chapter of the book, and we get on the mic to discuss it in-depth, covering topics from hiring to conflict resolution to developing consciousness as a leader.

The Manager’s Handbook Podcast is hosted by Matt Sornson (CMO) and Alex MacCaw (CEO) of Clearbit.


The Great CEO Within by Matt Mochary 

The 15 Commitments Of Conscious Leadership by Jim Dethmer, Diana Chapman and Kaley Klemp

The Work by Byron Katie

The Untethered Soul by Michael A. Singer

What we’ll learn about on this episode:

(01:49) - The importance of focusing on management, and the reason Clearbit is sharing its knowledge with others - “Most companies don’t even bother training their managers.”

(05:14) - How a great coach can completely transform a company - “The initial reaction was ‘wow, this is too much process and it’s not going to help us.’ But this process is actually freeing.”

(09:49) - How managing yourself first and your time will impact your life: “Your time is your most limited resource.”

(12:19) - On Getting Things Done (GTD) and how writing things down will help you be free - “Our brains are made for having ideas, not holding them.”

(15:19) - The power of an advisory board and the reasons why people want to help and get involved with others - “Ask for help. It is amazing how far that gets you.”

(17:44) - On therapy and emotional coaching - “I grew up believing that therapy was only sought when you were unhappy.”

(20:38) - Why suppressing your emotions is not healthy for you, and how knowing your Enneagram Type can help you understand your relationship with others.

(26:45) - On the 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership, and why people struggle to take full responsibility for their emotions.

(29:32) - How fear works in your brain and how you can handle it in a healthy way - “When you feel fear you have to first be able to name it.”

(33:47) - Why a lack of curiosity prevents you from being better, and how self-awareness will help you to grow - “People want to be right more than they want to find the truth.”

(37:03) - How your personal truth is harming your heart - “Suffering is optional. When you believe your thoughts, you suffer.”

(41:42) - The importance of gratitude and how practicing it will improve your life - “When you practice gratitude you’ll notice a shift in your happiness levels and appreciate what you have.”

About Clearbit:

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