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July 13, 2025 59 mins

There’s no one set of rules that will see us through. Psychologist and author PROFESSOR ROSS G. WHITE works instead on the concept of psychological flexibility. If we have flexible habits and mindset, we can navigate life’s inevitable storms with at least a degree of strength and grace. 

Ross believes that just as martial arts like jiu-jitsu train students to be grounded and focused, we can also train the mind to be agile and flexible; able to roll with the punches whilst staying true to core values. 

Andrew and Ross discuss:

  • How to embrace emotional turbulence, and turn fear, frustration or anxiety into opportunities for growth and learning.
  • Facing uncertainty with confidence and purpose. 
  • Why we are easily defeated by rigid routines, and how to embrace flexibility in habits and mindset instead. 
  • Practical techniques to build mental agility. 

Professor Ross G. White is an award-winning clinical psychologist who specializes in supporting the mental health and wellbeing of adults working in high-performance environments. This includes elite-level athletes in rugby, football, athletics and tennis. He is also an expert in global mental health and has conducted research in collaborations with the World Health Organization and the United Nations High Commission for Refugees on interventions for reducing distress experienced by refugees in the aftermath of humanitarian crises. He is currently Professor of Clinical Psychology at Queen's University Belfast, and is a director of Strive2Thrive, a training and consultancy.

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This week supporters will hear:

  • Don’t Burden Your Children with your Unlived Life. 
  • Three Things Ross G. White knows to be true. 
  • AND subscribers also access all of our previous bonus content - a rich trove of insight on love, life and meaning created by Andrew and his interviewees.

Follow Up

Attend Andrew's new men's retreat, Reconnect With Yourself, this autumn in the Brandenberg countryside near Berlin. 

Get Andrew’s free guide to difficult conversations with your partner: How to Tell Your Partner Difficult Things 

Read Ross G. White’s new book, The Tree That Bends: How a Flexible Mind Can Help You Thrive 

Visit Ross G. White’s website 

In the bonus episode this week Andrew reads from James Hollis’ book, Living an Examined Life: Wisdom for the Second Half of the Journey. You can buy the book HERE

Take a look at Andrew’s new online relationship course: My Best Relationship Tools 

Andrew offers regular advice on love, marriage and finding meaning in your life via his social channels. Follow him on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube @andrewgmarshall 

 

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