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July 20, 2025 53 mins

Throw away your FitBit, stop counting your daily steps, and instead learn to run mindfully. If you can find the three key elements of space, silence and patience, you’ll be far more able to tackle big problems at work and at home.

William Pullen is a psychotherapist who helps clients using his revolutionary method of Dynamic Running Therapy. His work combines movement and talk therapy to harness the synergy of mind, body and spirit.

In this classic reissued episode Andrew and William discuss

🏃🏾‍♂️How a good walk is different from a good run

🏃🏽‍♀️The practice of “asking your run/walk a question”

🏃🏻What the way someone walks can tell us about them. 

William also tackles a particularly thorny reader’s letter about what to do if you find that your smartphone use is taking over your life and spoiling your relationships.

Subscriber Content This Week

If you’re a subscriber to The Meaningful Life (via Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Patreon), this week you’ll be hearing:

⭐ Running to improve your anger management

⭐ Three things William Pullen knows to be true.

⭐️AND subscribers also access all of our previous bonus content - a rich trove of insight on love, life and meaning created by Andrew and his interviewees.

Follow Up

Attend Andrew's new men's retreat, Reconnect With Yourself, this autumn in the Brandenberg countryside near Berlin 

Get Andrew’s free guide to difficult conversations with your partner: How to Tell Your Partner Difficult Things 

Buy William Pullen’s book Run for Your Life: Mindful Running for a Happy Life

Visit William Pullen’s website 

Watch William Pullen’s TEDx talk “Movement is Medicine”

Follow William Pullen on Instagram @dynamicrunningtherapy and on Twitter @pullentherapy

Take a look at Andrew’s new online relationship course: My Best Relationship Tools

Join our Supporters Club to access exclusive behind-the-scenes content, fan requests and the chance to ask Andrew your own questions. Membership starts at just £4.50 

Andrew offers regular advice on love, marriage and finding meaning in your life via his social channels. Follow him on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube @andrewgmarshall 

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