March 27, 2026 • 26 mins
A new cigar blend is one thing. Building a cigar with your dad, then pulling back the curtain on every decision, is something else entirely.
We’re Nicholas Perdomo and Nick Perdomo, and we’re kicking off the Perdomo Podcast Show with the story people keep asking for: Perdomo Legacy Father and Son. We talk through why we finally chose to make a limited edition cigar, how small lots from our farms can be too rare for regular production but too good to ignore, and why this collaboration matters for our family’s future in the premium cigar industry.
You’ll hear the deep details cigar lovers crave, including our proprietary Nicaraguan shade grown hybrid wrapper (Cuban-seed Habano crossed with Cameroon-seed), and how that genetics match delivers richness plus sweetness and aroma. We get specific about cigar blending basics like primings, and we compare how higher vs lower primings change flavor, burn, and balance. We also explain how Nicaragua’s key regions Estelí, Jalapa, and Condega give us a wider blending canvas.
Then we go into the “engineered” stuff: the six-inch 48-60-52 format, the soft box press, why we chose wooden molds for oily tobaccos, and how moisture control helps uniform aging and fermentation. We close with our take on Connecticut wrapper myths, plus the thinking behind our luxury green packaging and the 50-count chest that can double as a humidor.
If you enjoy real cigar education, subscribe, share this with a fellow cigar smoker, and leave a review. What blend are you most excited to smoke: Shade Grown, Maduro, or Connecticut?
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Nicholas Perdomo with Prodomo Cigars, and
I'm alongside my dad, NickPerdomo.
Dad, how are you?
I'm doing great.
Great, Dad.
We're finally here.
Episode number one of thePerdomo Podcast Show.
Dad, we've been getting a lot ofquestions these last couple of
months, and you know, we have somuch content that we want to
talk about, and really from thecigar makers, right?
In terms of education, in termsof the lifestyle, in terms of
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the prodomo brand, and eventhings outside of the prodomo
brand, just stuff, evenscientific type of things that
how how to pair cigars, whetherit be with food, drinks, and so
forth.
But Dad, it's been unanimous.
The number one question thatwe've been getting is the new
Prodomo Legacy, father and son.
And I think it's a greatopportunity for us just to
continue to connect with theconsumers.
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It's a great opportunity for usto give them the information
that they've been asking for.
So, Dad, it's been a pleasuredoing this project with you.
I think it's the first everwithin a cigar family, the first
ever um collaborative brandwithin the actual family.
SPEAKER_00 (01:00):
Yeah, I'm super excited.
It's uh it's a blessing when youcan work with your son uh coming
up and and making a brandtogether, which is great.
And uh I'm beyond excited.
SPEAKER_01 (01:11):
Yeah, me too, Dad.
And I think it all goes now toback to Perdoma Legacy.
You know, in 2024, 2025, westarted working and I started
blending cigars years prior tomake a cigar in honor of you.
And uh, you're the mostdeserving person, not only
within our family, but in myopinion, the entire cigar
industry.
So I'm proud that really one ofthe most popular cigars in the
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world today is an honor of you.
But Dad, I think we had a greatopportunity um to really create
something uh between the two ofus.
Um, and I really found it wasimportant, you know, for years,
we've really never madeexclusive cigars, right?
Um, we want to make regularproduction items, but of course,
because as we grow tobacco,there are tobaccos, certain lots
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within our farms that are small,that we can't use those tobaccos
for regular production becausethere's just not enough quantity
of those tobaccos, but for surethe quality's there.
Um, and so our customers and ourconsumers have been asking us,
hey, we'd love to have a limitededition prodomo, and we've been
kind of not bringing it up,right?
And so I felt that really goingback, you know, I wanted, you
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know, you created this amazingtobacco, you and our
geneticists, this Nicaraguanshade grown tobacco, and it's a
cube Cuban Cameroon, uh, Cubanseed, Cameroon seed hybrid.
And it's something that is ours,it's proprietary to us, and it's
super special.
All our sun grown, all ourMaduro wrappers who grow them in
the Jalapa Valley, lighter typeof soils, and it produces thin,
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rich type of tobacco, it'sperfect for combustibility and
so forth, whether it be sungrown or Maduro.
And you wanted to create reallyrich, flavorful wrapper tobacco,
hence the Nicaraguan shade grownof this hybrid seed.
And I had the opportunity to useit first before you.
Sorry, not sorry.
It's really my favorite tobacco,my for sure, maybe my favorite
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wrapper tobacco.
I love all our tobaccos, butit's there's something so
unique, and you know, it's it'sso special, but what an
opportunity for you.
And I really wanted you to makeand share with our customers a
Nicaragua Shea Grown wrappedcigar with your touch.
And uh, I think it's somethingvery special, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (03:21):
Yeah, when can you come up with two of the greatest
seeds and combine them into oneand produce a tobacco that's
extremely flavorful and it hasthe two essences the richness of
the Habano seed together withthe sweetness and aromatic
qualities of the Cameroon seed?
I'm so excited about it.
And it's worked really good.
And uh the new size that we cameup with is simply fantastic.
(03:44):
I think it executes exactly whatwe want, which is giving the
consumer everything that we gotto give to them from the
beginning all the way to theend.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
Yeah, no doubt that.
And I think going into the size,right?
We wanted to create something.
We we worked on the blends, youcreated your Nicaraguan Shagrum
blend, I created the Maduroblend, and then you and I
collaborated together andcreated the Connecticut blend.
And one of the things using thevery rich, very well-aged
tobaccos wrapper, binder,filler, we also wanted to create
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a size that was designed toperform from flavor
concentration to flavorexpansion, so forth.
And Dad, we created a size.
You and I, I remember we'resitting down, and the customers
want to hear the stories, theyask about it.
But with a pen and a paper, westarted drawing out we want to
make a six-inch cigar in length,but we wanted to make a six by
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forty-eight by sixty byfifty-two.
And can you explain exactly whatthat means?
A forty-eight by sixty byfifty-two.
SPEAKER_00 (04:48):
Yeah, exactly.
What we wanted to do is come outwith something very elegant, and
we picked a six-inch uh cigar inlength, which we thought was
optimal for the flavorcharacteristics of this
particular blend that we came upwith with the new Prodomo Legacy
Father and Son collaboration.
And the second thing I want todo was something that would be
really easy on the smoker'smouth, and 48 seemed to be just
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the optimum to put on the lipsfor the person that smoked the
cigar and really enjoy it.
Then we wanted this big symphonyof flavors that we always
discussed, and how did we do it?
We branched it out with a 60ring gauge, and we brought it
back down so it could be easy tolight into a 52, and the
customer gets everything on thatcigar.
That cigar performs.
(05:31):
Um, the dimensions areabsolutely engineered for flavor
concentration.
That's exactly what we wanted.
We also wanted to haveexceptional balance, and we
wanted to really enhance theoverall smoking experience, and
I think we hit a grand slam withthat size.
Then with the soft box press, itmakes it so elegant.
It's such a beautiful cigar.
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I'm like so excited.
I've no said it twice, but inall the decades I've been in the
industry, this is one of thebrands that is just fired me up
beyond belief.
And I can't wait till theconsumers get to enjoy this
particular cigar.
That is what's going to bringall the passion and really what
I want to feel about thisparticular cigar.
It's just it's just so elegant,beautiful.
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And more importantly, the cigarsmoker gets to get an
exceptional smoke experiencefrom the beginning to the end.
It's just the perfect size.
SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
Yeah, no doubt.
And, you know, when we decidedto make this cigar, and you and
I penciled in a paper, and wedrew out the cigar, what we
wanted it to look like.
We wanted it to be a parallelcigar with some figure, but
really designed to perform forconcentration, expansion of
flavors to bring that harmoniousbalance.
I think the biggest thing too isthat, and I learned something,
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and this is very again, this issomething that no outside
outside of the factory, aconsumer, a retailer will never
hear this.
And I asked you a question, youtaught me something very
important that I would havenever thought of.
I asked you, Dad, are we goingto use for for molds?
Are we going to use the polymermolds or are we going to use
wood molds?
And can you give the ourlisteners your response to my
(07:06):
question?
SPEAKER_00 (07:06):
Yeah, we we like our rollers to work with whatever
they feel more comfortable with,but I decided to use only ash
wooden molds.
And the reason I wanted thewooden molds was because wood is
porous.
And these particular tobaccoswe're using, they're extremely
oily, they're very opulent,they're very thick and and in
texture.
And what I wanted is when thosecigars went into the mold, I
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also wanted some absorption ofmoisture so you the cigar smoker
could really taste that cigarfrom beginning to end.
So I decided to use wooden moldsfor that reason.
It drops the moisture down aboutthree percentage points.
The cigar will age moreuniformly, ferment more
uniformly.
And that's the reason why wemostly use uh wooden molds.
(07:52):
And but I wanted to make this ahundred percent of wooden molds.
You know, if you use polarmolds, and you know, we have
cigars that we've stored for formonths on end and aging, that
works great.
And I just felt that this wouldbe optimum for the cigar.
I didn't want to leave any stoneleft unturned.
We do that with all our brands,but this was something I thought
was essential to do, and that'swhy I decided to use wooden
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molds solely on this particularline.
SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
Yeah, it's a great point, Dad.
I think going into, you know,talking about and just giving a
little bit of a you know storyprior about Nicaraguan shade
grown tobacco, um, going intoyour blend and saying, hey dad,
you got to come out with theNicaraguan shade grown blend,
it's our our consumers, it wouldreally satisfy everybody.
I mean, you know, when you lookat the Prodomo legacy today,
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this brand, um, you know, theflagship is the Nicaraguan shade
ground, your creation, hybridseed, Cuban Cameroon seed.
And so if you could tell ourlisteners, you know, the
difference between really thisNicaraguan shade ground that I
used, for example, versus theNicaraguan shade ground that you
use in terms of the primings ofthe leaves, and explain why you
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did that and how you blended thecigar overall.
SPEAKER_00 (09:05):
First of all, I think what you did when you came
out with the first one wasexceptional because you wanted
higher primings.
Higher primings mean higher onthe stalk of the plant, more sun
exposure, more richness, moreflavor.
You hit it out of the park.
75% of that power and richnessof the Cuban seed with hints of
sweetness that really accentthat cigar and makes it
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delicious.
I decided because we wanted todifferentiate, I would go more
into the lower primings, littlethinner tobaccos, more
sweetness, actually, because ofmore shade from the leaves above
them together with the shadegrown tobacco.
And I picked up more nuances ofCameroon versus the habano seed.
I wanted that mixture, but Iinstead of being 70% in the
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habano side and 30% of theCameroon side, I think we kind
of flipped it around and I gotit to be more of that Cameroon
style tobacco that I really lovealso.
And uh we changed it and itworked really great.
And uh, I worked hard on it, andtogether with our tasting panel,
we really zeroed down on thatblend, and everybody seems to
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really love it, and I'm veryhappy about that.
SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
Yeah, I fell in love with the cigar between the 10 to
15 year age tobaccos, the theway you blended with the filler
tobaccos on the variationsbetween Condega, Jalapa, and
Esteli.
Um, just you nailed it, you hitit out of the park.
But it's funny, Dad, when Ismoked that cigar, and because
of the lower primings andbecause it's a little bit lower
on the stock, a little bitthinner, but still super toothy,
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very oily.
You know, we always want everycigar to burn like Connecticut,
right?
Very, you know, just burnperfectly, just thin.
And that cigar, to be honestwith you, that wrapper, it burns
so perfectly.
It burns like Connecticut, andit's got such incredible flavor.
And just that, again, to yourpoint, the Cameroon influence,
um, with that little bit of thathabano back end on with that
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essence, that Habano essence onthe back end, it was truly a
special.
SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
Yeah, and that toothiness, for in case the
customer, uh the consumerdoesn't understand, or these
tiny little bumps you see on theash.
And it's it's very normal fortobaccos that come from the
Cameroon region, and that'swhere we come up with the word
toothy, but I think you hit agrand slam with the Maduro
version.
SPEAKER_01 (11:21):
Well, Dad, after smoking your cigar, and I made
sure that you made your cigarfirst, because I wanted to
follow in the right steps interms of blending, because to
me, you're a master, and to allof the listeners who are lovers
of Perdomo cigars, I know theyconcur with me, and you've
earned it after three plusdecades.
And um, you know, one of thethings I wanted to do was, of
course, you always have wrappergrade, and then there's binder
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grade, but within the sameprimings that you used for
wrapper, what didn't makewrapper and what made binder
grade, I said I wanted to usethat with the Maduro.
So we used, I used, I decided Iwanted to blend a very rich, I
wanted to use a dark, very richMaduro wrapper, higher priming,
but I wanted to pair it withthat lower priming.
I know that the wrapper andbinder would burn perfectly
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together because of that offsetfrom thick to thin, but also I
know that that Nicaragua shadegrown is going to even boost a
lot of that sweetness from thatCameroon influence to expand
those cocoa chocolate flavorsthat that that the Maduro
wrapper naturally gives.
And again, I wanted to use Iused a little bit different
variation of filler tobaccos interms of from Esteli, Jalapa,
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and Condega, but I hope youapprove.
SPEAKER_00 (12:30):
Yeah, the combination was superb.
It was a genius move because youended up offsetting that wrapper
to be able to build more of theflavor of that wrapper.
So a lot of people always ask,how much does the wrapper impart
in a flavor?
And there's ludicrous statementsof 70% and so on, but it's about
10%, which is reallyastronomical when you consider
it's one leaf.
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It's not even one percent of thetobacco producing 10 times as
flavor characteristics.
But I think what you did wasamped it up to upwards of 12 to
15% of the flavor, which wasreally a great idea, and it
really it's just so harmonious.
That's that's the word.
You got complexity, you gotsweetness, you got richness.
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I call it an espresso bombthat's just delicious.
Right.
And uh I'm super high on thecigars.
Look, we're known for our Madurocigars and our seeds that we use
for our Maduro.
We don't, you know, it's we'redifferent.
And uh that cigar is a home run.
It's a grand slam, is what itis.
So job well done on that.
Thank you.
And uh I'm and it's a comp it'sa competition sometimes, right?
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Because you're competitive bynature just like I am, and we
want to do the very best we can.
So I'm sure you were trying tokick my ass, and that's what
you're supposed to do.
If you weren't, you know, youain't gonna be great if you're
not trying to swing for thefences.
SPEAKER_01 (13:48):
So uh initially, yes, but I want to I think at
the end of the day, everythingneeds to complement, right?
I think our cigars need tocomplement each other.
There's no question my mycompetitive DNA that you
instilled within me hasdefinitely thought of that.
But knowing what I know, I thinkit's I think they both
complement each other.
But you know, we I catch myselfand I've and I think it's great
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we talk about primings, right?
And we're gonna get into it inother shows, but this is a very
key word in terms of how peopleand how cigars are blended in
terms of what makes a mildcigar, a medium body, and fooled
cigar, and a full-bodied cigar.
So I think in future episodeswhen we talk about that
primings, and I and I I justwanted to bring that up because
I know our our customers who arelistening right now, they're
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gonna learn more and more aboutit.
SPEAKER_00 (14:35):
Sure, and they're and they're gonna hear it all
the time.
But I think it's important thatthey they get a little segue of
what a priming is.
So basically, the higher theprimings, the higher it is on
the plant.
The higher it is, the more sunexposure, the thicker, the more
richer and the heavier theflavors are.
So we're always going in betweenthe middle and to the top,
depending on the type of cigarwe're gonna make and the blend
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we're gonna make, regardless ofwhere it comes from, whether
it's the lush Palapa Valley,Condega Valley, and the SLE
Valley.
And it's one of the great thingsabout working with Nicaragua.
We have these three incredibleregions, and uh that's one of
the great things being a blenderworking in Nicaragua because you
have farms that are literally ahundred miles apart versus other
countries where everything isreally right smack within five
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to ten miles of each other.
How much different can you makethe tobacco?
So uh yeah, the the father andson collaboration, all three of
the rappers are phenomenal.
And then lastly, we decide we'regonna work together on the
Connecticut.
SPEAKER_01 (15:30):
So, yeah, we did work on together in the
Connecticut, and Connecticut alot of time gets foreseen.
A lot of people go, why didn'tyou guys work on the shade grown
together?
Nicaragua's shade grown.
Why didn't you work on theMaduro?
Because Connecticut, when youlook at the expectations, and
you're gonna give some numbers,of course, it's such it's the
most popular wrapper.
And uh, you know, it's soimportant because whether people
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have this misconception, it'sthe newbie cigar, it's for newer
smokers, and we see quite theopposite on, you know, based on
what we see, what our consumersare purchasing, whether they've
been smoking cigars for five,ten, fifteen, twenty plus years,
right?
Um, but I thought it was veryimportant too when we decided to
blend together, um, you know,again, using the same priming of
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that Nickaraguin Shade Grown uhbinder, right?
And having that amp up andreally supply even more flavor
to the creaminess, that honeyand spice, that cinnamon that
you get from the Connecticutwrapper.
Um, it's super, super specialthis cigar.
And it's not it's not a lightConnecticut.
And because of the variations,again, and it's it's pretty
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incredible.
You know, going back, you talkabout the big three, right?
Esteli, condega, and jalapa.
The amount of variations, Imean, with all the brands that
we've that we've made thatyou've blended, I mean, there's
so many more variations oftobaccos that we haven't even
touched yet, whether it be thefrom the Seiko Visa or the
Lijero components of the actualtobacco, we have so many.
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How many, how many blends couldwe, how many more blends could
we make that we haven't eventhought about?
SPEAKER_00 (16:59):
Quite a few.
That's one of the great thingsabout uh you know Nicaragua with
all the different regions beingso far, like I said earlier.
And and I think the hardestcigar to make was the
collaboration because we wantedsomething to be so flavorful,
but what we ended up coming outwith was not only a flavorful
cigar, but a cigar that has sucha nice, smooth, clean finish.
(17:19):
Yep.
Um, you know, we talk aboutsoft, buttery, almond, vanilla
that are natural in thetobaccos.
And when Connecticut is fullycured, fully fermented, not 50%,
60%, but 100%, and then puttingin the bale where those flavors
interlock and marry and becomeharmonious and work with the
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blend with the tobaccos we gotto play with, with the fillers
and binders, it is an exquisitecigar.
So when you go back toConnecticut, you know, we want
that clean, smooth finish, andwe're famous for it.
I mean, if you look at brandslike Perdoma Reserve, 10th
anniversary champagne been outover two decades.
Perdoma Habana, same thing, 20plus years in the industry,
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still growing by leaps andbounds.
Uh 20th anniversary,Connecticut, 30th anniversary,
Connecticut.
I think we've our team hasbecome experts by working
Connecticut and working itharmoniously with our famed
Nicaraguan fillers and binders.
I mean, I think we're one of therevolutionary guys who started
Connecticut.
When I first started in theindustry, Connecticut was bland
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tart with light tobaccos, and weamped it up and we made
Connecticut extremely flavorfulbecause I believe it works so
great with Nicaraguan fillersand binders.
And I'm so proud of thatcollaboration we made.
And I'll repeat it again (18:35):
if you're looking for something
smooth, clean, and just veryflavorful, that Connecticut
wrapper is phenomenal and itburns like baby powder because
it's it's just so well-aged.
It any tobacco, Connecticut getsa bad, bad, bad wrap.
Oh, it's light, it's yellow, itmust be light, it's bitter, it's
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tart.
You know, in a lot of instances,those consumers are 100% right.
And the reason is becauseConnecticut burns from the plant
green.
People, it's then so expensive.
People, what they do is theybring it from the curing house,
they give it one sweat, andwe'll go into that later
throughout the next podcastabout sweating and fermentation
and so on.
And then they make a cigar withit.
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Well, of course, any tobaccowould would would be tart and
bitter if you did that.
But the saving grace is that fora lot of people, is because
Connecticut burns well, evenraw, it it's it's an attribute
because they spend so muchmoney.
But in reality, any tobacco hasto be fully cured, fermented,
and aged.
And when you do that withConnecticut, it's a totally
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different animal.
And I know a lot of expertsmokers and older guys that are
smoking Connecticut now andgoing back to it, less acidity
and so on and so on as we getolder.
And uh look, even in our in ourin our place, I mean, Arthur
smokes pretty much solelyConnecticut.
He's an expert smoker, he's beenwith me for almost you know 20,
20, 25 plus years.
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He knows how to smoke cigars,and his favorite cigar today is
Connecticut.
It wasn't that way years ago.
It's because he's grown into it,because he's seen the processes
that we've done, and we all do.
We all smoke Connecticut cigars,and that cigar is definitely
another winner in therepertoire.
And I'm very proud of it, andespecially being able to work
together with it.
SPEAKER_01 (20:17):
It was fun.
SPEAKER_00 (20:18):
Yeah, and a lot of trials and tribulations at the
same time, but we got it done,and that's that's what it's all
about.
And the consumer and theretailer is going to win, and
I'm very happy about that.
SPEAKER_01 (20:26):
We worked with really great tobacco.
Again, going back 10 to 15 yearage fillers, you know, looking,
I mean, we were working bale tobale.
We went from bales from 2011when I was still graduating high
school uh all the way through2016.
We wanted to use certified 10 to15 year age tobaccos to give a
little bit more of a softnessversus where legacy, when I
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blended that cigar for you, Iwanted to blend it kind of to
your personality.
Very aggressive, but balanced,you know, and I felt that that
was important for me, and Ireally wanted to make the most
flavorful cigar as possible.
And I think we accomplished thatwith Perdomo Legacy.
Now, Perdomo Legacy father andson is just it's just such a
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it's such a special blend.
I'm so proud of it, and it wasit was so much fun working with
you.
SPEAKER_00 (21:14):
It really was, and I think the job and the packaging
was equally as important.
Uh the colors, you know,everybody when we started
putting pictures out of thebrand, and it the pictures don't
do it justice.
No.
SPEAKER_01 (21:27):
And that green was just well, Dad, my question is
going back now, looking at thepackaging, right?
When you when we look at thepackaging and when we look at
Perdomo Legacy, to me, it isartwork.
It is the most beautifulpackaging when you look at the
golds, the foils, all thesedifferent things.
And how could we use that?
Because we wanted to use thisbrand under the legacy, just
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under the legacy name.
Um, you know, we have the blackand prodomo legacy, the red, the
blue.
Beautiful colors.
Gorgeous.
And one of the things is Youbeing a watch enthusiast and you
making me a watch enthusiast,um, you know, you took two, you
know, we use green, but they'renot both the same greens, right?
(22:11):
Um, can you give a little bit ofthe thought behind it in terms
of luxury products today, howpowerful green is in the
markets, and really just how youwere inspired by it?
SPEAKER_00 (22:22):
It's super powerful in the luxury segment.
I love green in general.
It was really not used much incigars, very few cigars, and a
lot of marketing companies willtell you green and blue are bad
colors.
I think we proved that wrongwith blue and legacy and the
beautiful blue we use in 10thanniversary Maduro.
And we decided collectively thatgreen would be a great color.
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And I looked at watch brandslike Patek Philippe, and I
looked at watch brands likeRolex with their Daytona and the
green, and we kind of made a wemixed a green that I don't even
know if it has a Pantone color,to be honest with you.
And I think uh the job that wasdone between you and Arthur and
picking these were phenomenal,and it's so attractive.
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And what's even better is thecigar is better than how
beautifully packaged the cigaris, and that's what it's all
about.
I've always thought that ourcigars were wonderful and we
would bring our packaging up,and we sure did.
And I think we got the bestpackaging in the industry.
I might be a little zealoussaying that, but I believe that
from the bottom of my heart.
And this is this is just at thetop of the pinnacle, and I'd
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love the way it looks.
And coming in chest of 50, youknow, I look I look back at you
know, listening to my father'sstories and cabinets of fifty
and how elegant they were in theold days, these beautiful
chests, and we're we'reproviding that to the consumer
at a price point of only$15 acigar using these types of
tobaccos, it's unheard of.
It's not the$75 to$100 cigar theconsumer's getting pitched every
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day at, which I don't believe isfair.
I think they're getting atremendous bang for their buck,
and I'm beyond excited about it.
SPEAKER_01 (24:01):
But Dad, even those 50-count chests, they're they're
works of art.
I mean, if I'm a consumer and Ibuy a chest of Perdomo Legacy
father and son, I'm gonna buybovada packs, put them in there,
treat it as my own humidor.
It's so versatile.
It is versatile because we madethe box.
SPEAKER_00 (24:22):
Yeah, we made that box that it could be a humidor.
So if you do use a pack, ahumidified pack in there, it's
going to make it's gonna keepthe cigars, they'll be aging.
It's extremely well-cured cedarthat we've kiln dried to four
percent moisture.
It's the perfect aging box forthe cigars, even though the
cigars have been aged for for alot of years.
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I mean, it makes it makes it'sjust it's just incredible.
It's a it's a showpiece thatanybody can have in their home
and be proud of.
And I'm proud of that.
SPEAKER_01 (24:52):
I'm proud of it too, Dad.
I think we did a great job.
And in closing, everything, youknow, with our family today has
been about legacy.
And you look and you see thatyou know, there's a great
chance, a great opportunity forPerdomo cigars to have future
generations with your grandkidsand so forth, and you know, I
think that you could give memore if you wanted to.
Kitchen's closed.
(25:13):
But I think looking uh lookingback, I'm just really proud of
what we've done.
And it took the third and fourthgeneration of Perdomo to create
a Prodomo Legacy father and soncollaboration brand.
I'm sure that your grandfatherand your father would be so
proud to see what you'veaccomplished and to see what
we're accomplishing, not justfor their sake and in their
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honor, but for the futuregenerations of our family.
So I think the best is yet tocome.
And Dad, I'm proud and sograteful that I get to hang out
with you some more, do thesepodcasts, educate our customers,
our retailers and consumers, andreally just continue to build
the bonds that we've built overthe years.
And I think that we havesomething really special, and I
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just can't wait for thisjourney.
And I can't, I couldn't be morehappy to be on this journey with
you, Dad.
SPEAKER_00 (25:58):
Well, likewise, I feel the same way, son, and I'm
excited about giving all theknowledge that I've learned
through from my father, mygrandfather, and the decades
I've been in the cigar industryfor all the cigar lovers out
there.
SPEAKER_01 (26:11):
Yeah, so thank you so much, Dad.
And to everyone listening, thankyou so much for listening.
Thank you for your support.
Please like and subscribe to theProMa podcast show.
We're going to see us very soon.
Thank you so much.
Thanks, guys.
Hi, I'm Nicholas Perdomo with Prodomo Cigars, and
I'm alongside my dad, NickPerdomo.
Dad, how are you?
I'm doing great.
Great, Dad.
We're finally here.
Episode number one of thePerdomo Podcast Show.
Dad, we've been getting a lot ofquestions these last couple of
months, and you know, we have somuch content that we want to
talk about, and really from thecigar makers, right?
In terms of education, in termsof the lifestyle, in terms of
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the prodomo brand, and eventhings outside of the prodomo
brand, just stuff, evenscientific type of things that
how how to pair cigars, whetherit be with food, drinks, and so
forth.
But Dad, it's been unanimous.
The number one question thatwe've been getting is the new
Prodomo Legacy, father and son.
And I think it's a greatopportunity for us just to
continue to connect with theconsumers.
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It's a great opportunity for usto give them the information
that they've been asking for.
So, Dad, it's been a pleasuredoing this project with you.
I think it's the first everwithin a cigar family, the first
ever um collaborative brandwithin the actual family.
SPEAKER_00 (01:00):
Yeah, I'm super excited.
It's uh it's a blessing when youcan work with your son uh coming
up and and making a brandtogether, which is great.
And uh I'm beyond excited.
SPEAKER_01 (01:11):
Yeah, me too, Dad.
And I think it all goes now toback to Perdoma Legacy.
You know, in 2024, 2025, westarted working and I started
blending cigars years prior tomake a cigar in honor of you.
And uh, you're the mostdeserving person, not only
within our family, but in myopinion, the entire cigar
industry.
So I'm proud that really one ofthe most popular cigars in the
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world today is an honor of you.
But Dad, I think we had a greatopportunity um to really create
something uh between the two ofus.
Um, and I really found it wasimportant, you know, for years,
we've really never madeexclusive cigars, right?
Um, we want to make regularproduction items, but of course,
because as we grow tobacco,there are tobaccos, certain lots
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within our farms that are small,that we can't use those tobaccos
for regular production becausethere's just not enough quantity
of those tobaccos, but for surethe quality's there.
Um, and so our customers and ourconsumers have been asking us,
hey, we'd love to have a limitededition prodomo, and we've been
kind of not bringing it up,right?
And so I felt that really goingback, you know, I wanted, you
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know, you created this amazingtobacco, you and our
geneticists, this Nicaraguanshade grown tobacco, and it's a
cube Cuban Cameroon, uh, Cubanseed, Cameroon seed hybrid.
And it's something that is ours,it's proprietary to us, and it's
super special.
All our sun grown, all ourMaduro wrappers who grow them in
the Jalapa Valley, lighter typeof soils, and it produces thin,
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rich type of tobacco, it'sperfect for combustibility and
so forth, whether it be sungrown or Maduro.
And you wanted to create reallyrich, flavorful wrapper tobacco,
hence the Nicaraguan shade grownof this hybrid seed.
And I had the opportunity to useit first before you.
Sorry, not sorry.
It's really my favorite tobacco,my for sure, maybe my favorite
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wrapper tobacco.
I love all our tobaccos, butit's there's something so
unique, and you know, it's it'sso special, but what an
opportunity for you.
And I really wanted you to makeand share with our customers a
Nicaragua Shea Grown wrappedcigar with your touch.
And uh, I think it's somethingvery special, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (03:21):
Yeah, when can you come up with two of the greatest
seeds and combine them into oneand produce a tobacco that's
extremely flavorful and it hasthe two essences the richness of
the Habano seed together withthe sweetness and aromatic
qualities of the Cameroon seed?
I'm so excited about it.
And it's worked really good.
And uh the new size that we cameup with is simply fantastic.
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I think it executes exactly whatwe want, which is giving the
consumer everything that we gotto give to them from the
beginning all the way to theend.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
Yeah, no doubt that.
And I think going into the size,right?
We wanted to create something.
We we worked on the blends, youcreated your Nicaraguan Shagrum
blend, I created the Maduroblend, and then you and I
collaborated together andcreated the Connecticut blend.
And one of the things using thevery rich, very well-aged
tobaccos wrapper, binder,filler, we also wanted to create
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a size that was designed toperform from flavor
concentration to flavorexpansion, so forth.
And Dad, we created a size.
You and I, I remember we'resitting down, and the customers
want to hear the stories, theyask about it.
But with a pen and a paper, westarted drawing out we want to
make a six-inch cigar in length,but we wanted to make a six by
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forty-eight by sixty byfifty-two.
And can you explain exactly whatthat means?
A forty-eight by sixty byfifty-two.
SPEAKER_00 (04:48):
Yeah, exactly.
What we wanted to do is come outwith something very elegant, and
we picked a six-inch uh cigar inlength, which we thought was
optimal for the flavorcharacteristics of this
particular blend that we came upwith with the new Prodomo Legacy
Father and Son collaboration.
And the second thing I want todo was something that would be
really easy on the smoker'smouth, and 48 seemed to be just
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the optimum to put on the lipsfor the person that smoked the
cigar and really enjoy it.
Then we wanted this big symphonyof flavors that we always
discussed, and how did we do it?
We branched it out with a 60ring gauge, and we brought it
back down so it could be easy tolight into a 52, and the
customer gets everything on thatcigar.
That cigar performs.
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Um, the dimensions areabsolutely engineered for flavor
concentration.
That's exactly what we wanted.
We also wanted to haveexceptional balance, and we
wanted to really enhance theoverall smoking experience, and
I think we hit a grand slam withthat size.
Then with the soft box press, itmakes it so elegant.
It's such a beautiful cigar.
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I'm like so excited.
I've no said it twice, but inall the decades I've been in the
industry, this is one of thebrands that is just fired me up
beyond belief.
And I can't wait till theconsumers get to enjoy this
particular cigar.
That is what's going to bringall the passion and really what
I want to feel about thisparticular cigar.
It's just it's just so elegant,beautiful.
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And more importantly, the cigarsmoker gets to get an
exceptional smoke experiencefrom the beginning to the end.
It's just the perfect size.
SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
Yeah, no doubt.
And, you know, when we decidedto make this cigar, and you and
I penciled in a paper, and wedrew out the cigar, what we
wanted it to look like.
We wanted it to be a parallelcigar with some figure, but
really designed to perform forconcentration, expansion of
flavors to bring that harmoniousbalance.
I think the biggest thing too isthat, and I learned something,
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and this is very again, this issomething that no outside
outside of the factory, aconsumer, a retailer will never
hear this.
And I asked you a question, youtaught me something very
important that I would havenever thought of.
I asked you, Dad, are we goingto use for for molds?
Are we going to use the polymermolds or are we going to use
wood molds?
And can you give the ourlisteners your response to my
(07:06):
question?
SPEAKER_00 (07:06):
Yeah, we we like our rollers to work with whatever
they feel more comfortable with,but I decided to use only ash
wooden molds.
And the reason I wanted thewooden molds was because wood is
porous.
And these particular tobaccoswe're using, they're extremely
oily, they're very opulent,they're very thick and and in
texture.
And what I wanted is when thosecigars went into the mold, I
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also wanted some absorption ofmoisture so you the cigar smoker
could really taste that cigarfrom beginning to end.
So I decided to use wooden moldsfor that reason.
It drops the moisture down aboutthree percentage points.
The cigar will age moreuniformly, ferment more
uniformly.
And that's the reason why wemostly use uh wooden molds.
(07:52):
And but I wanted to make this ahundred percent of wooden molds.
You know, if you use polarmolds, and you know, we have
cigars that we've stored for formonths on end and aging, that
works great.
And I just felt that this wouldbe optimum for the cigar.
I didn't want to leave any stoneleft unturned.
We do that with all our brands,but this was something I thought
was essential to do, and that'swhy I decided to use wooden
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molds solely on this particularline.
SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
Yeah, it's a great point, Dad.
I think going into, you know,talking about and just giving a
little bit of a you know storyprior about Nicaraguan shade
grown tobacco, um, going intoyour blend and saying, hey dad,
you got to come out with theNicaraguan shade grown blend,
it's our our consumers, it wouldreally satisfy everybody.
I mean, you know, when you lookat the Prodomo legacy today,
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this brand, um, you know, theflagship is the Nicaraguan shade
ground, your creation, hybridseed, Cuban Cameroon seed.
And so if you could tell ourlisteners, you know, the
difference between really thisNicaraguan shade ground that I
used, for example, versus theNicaraguan shade ground that you
use in terms of the primings ofthe leaves, and explain why you
(09:02):
did that and how you blended thecigar overall.
SPEAKER_00 (09:05):
First of all, I think what you did when you came
out with the first one wasexceptional because you wanted
higher primings.
Higher primings mean higher onthe stalk of the plant, more sun
exposure, more richness, moreflavor.
You hit it out of the park.
75% of that power and richnessof the Cuban seed with hints of
sweetness that really accentthat cigar and makes it
(09:27):
delicious.
I decided because we wanted todifferentiate, I would go more
into the lower primings, littlethinner tobaccos, more
sweetness, actually, because ofmore shade from the leaves above
them together with the shadegrown tobacco.
And I picked up more nuances ofCameroon versus the habano seed.
I wanted that mixture, but Iinstead of being 70% in the
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habano side and 30% of theCameroon side, I think we kind
of flipped it around and I gotit to be more of that Cameroon
style tobacco that I really lovealso.
And uh we changed it and itworked really great.
And uh, I worked hard on it, andtogether with our tasting panel,
we really zeroed down on thatblend, and everybody seems to
(10:10):
really love it, and I'm veryhappy about that.
SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
Yeah, I fell in love with the cigar between the 10 to
15 year age tobaccos, the theway you blended with the filler
tobaccos on the variationsbetween Condega, Jalapa, and
Esteli.
Um, just you nailed it, you hitit out of the park.
But it's funny, Dad, when Ismoked that cigar, and because
of the lower primings andbecause it's a little bit lower
on the stock, a little bitthinner, but still super toothy,
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very oily.
You know, we always want everycigar to burn like Connecticut,
right?
Very, you know, just burnperfectly, just thin.
And that cigar, to be honestwith you, that wrapper, it burns
so perfectly.
It burns like Connecticut, andit's got such incredible flavor.
And just that, again, to yourpoint, the Cameroon influence,
um, with that little bit of thathabano back end on with that
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essence, that Habano essence onthe back end, it was truly a
special.
SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
Yeah, and that toothiness, for in case the
customer, uh the consumerdoesn't understand, or these
tiny little bumps you see on theash.
And it's it's very normal fortobaccos that come from the
Cameroon region, and that'swhere we come up with the word
toothy, but I think you hit agrand slam with the Maduro
version.
SPEAKER_01 (11:21):
Well, Dad, after smoking your cigar, and I made
sure that you made your cigarfirst, because I wanted to
follow in the right steps interms of blending, because to
me, you're a master, and to allof the listeners who are lovers
of Perdomo cigars, I know theyconcur with me, and you've
earned it after three plusdecades.
And um, you know, one of thethings I wanted to do was, of
course, you always have wrappergrade, and then there's binder
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grade, but within the sameprimings that you used for
wrapper, what didn't makewrapper and what made binder
grade, I said I wanted to usethat with the Maduro.
So we used, I used, I decided Iwanted to blend a very rich, I
wanted to use a dark, very richMaduro wrapper, higher priming,
but I wanted to pair it withthat lower priming.
I know that the wrapper andbinder would burn perfectly
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together because of that offsetfrom thick to thin, but also I
know that that Nicaragua shadegrown is going to even boost a
lot of that sweetness from thatCameroon influence to expand
those cocoa chocolate flavorsthat that that the Maduro
wrapper naturally gives.
And again, I wanted to use Iused a little bit different
variation of filler tobaccos interms of from Esteli, Jalapa,
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and Condega, but I hope youapprove.
SPEAKER_00 (12:30):
Yeah, the combination was superb.
It was a genius move because youended up offsetting that wrapper
to be able to build more of theflavor of that wrapper.
So a lot of people always ask,how much does the wrapper impart
in a flavor?
And there's ludicrous statementsof 70% and so on, but it's about
10%, which is reallyastronomical when you consider
it's one leaf.
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It's not even one percent of thetobacco producing 10 times as
flavor characteristics.
But I think what you did wasamped it up to upwards of 12 to
15% of the flavor, which wasreally a great idea, and it
really it's just so harmonious.
That's that's the word.
You got complexity, you gotsweetness, you got richness.
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I call it an espresso bombthat's just delicious.
Right.
And uh I'm super high on thecigars.
Look, we're known for our Madurocigars and our seeds that we use
for our Maduro.
We don't, you know, it's we'redifferent.
And uh that cigar is a home run.
It's a grand slam, is what itis.
So job well done on that.
Thank you.
And uh I'm and it's a comp it'sa competition sometimes, right?
(13:35):
Because you're competitive bynature just like I am, and we
want to do the very best we can.
So I'm sure you were trying tokick my ass, and that's what
you're supposed to do.
If you weren't, you know, youain't gonna be great if you're
not trying to swing for thefences.
SPEAKER_01 (13:48):
So uh initially, yes, but I want to I think at
the end of the day, everythingneeds to complement, right?
I think our cigars need tocomplement each other.
There's no question my mycompetitive DNA that you
instilled within me hasdefinitely thought of that.
But knowing what I know, I thinkit's I think they both
complement each other.
But you know, we I catch myselfand I've and I think it's great
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we talk about primings, right?
And we're gonna get into it inother shows, but this is a very
key word in terms of how peopleand how cigars are blended in
terms of what makes a mildcigar, a medium body, and fooled
cigar, and a full-bodied cigar.
So I think in future episodeswhen we talk about that
primings, and I and I I justwanted to bring that up because
I know our our customers who arelistening right now, they're
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gonna learn more and more aboutit.
SPEAKER_00 (14:35):
Sure, and they're and they're gonna hear it all
the time.
But I think it's important thatthey they get a little segue of
what a priming is.
So basically, the higher theprimings, the higher it is on
the plant.
The higher it is, the more sunexposure, the thicker, the more
richer and the heavier theflavors are.
So we're always going in betweenthe middle and to the top,
depending on the type of cigarwe're gonna make and the blend
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we're gonna make, regardless ofwhere it comes from, whether
it's the lush Palapa Valley,Condega Valley, and the SLE
Valley.
And it's one of the great thingsabout working with Nicaragua.
We have these three incredibleregions, and uh that's one of
the great things being a blenderworking in Nicaragua because you
have farms that are literally ahundred miles apart versus other
countries where everything isreally right smack within five
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to ten miles of each other.
How much different can you makethe tobacco?
So uh yeah, the the father andson collaboration, all three of
the rappers are phenomenal.
And then lastly, we decide we'regonna work together on the
Connecticut.
SPEAKER_01 (15:30):
So, yeah, we did work on together in the
Connecticut, and Connecticut alot of time gets foreseen.
A lot of people go, why didn'tyou guys work on the shade grown
together?
Nicaragua's shade grown.
Why didn't you work on theMaduro?
Because Connecticut, when youlook at the expectations, and
you're gonna give some numbers,of course, it's such it's the
most popular wrapper.
And uh, you know, it's soimportant because whether people
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have this misconception, it'sthe newbie cigar, it's for newer
smokers, and we see quite theopposite on, you know, based on
what we see, what our consumersare purchasing, whether they've
been smoking cigars for five,ten, fifteen, twenty plus years,
right?
Um, but I thought it was veryimportant too when we decided to
blend together, um, you know,again, using the same priming of
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that Nickaraguin Shade Grown uhbinder, right?
And having that amp up andreally supply even more flavor
to the creaminess, that honeyand spice, that cinnamon that
you get from the Connecticutwrapper.
Um, it's super, super specialthis cigar.
And it's not it's not a lightConnecticut.
And because of the variations,again, and it's it's pretty
(16:33):
incredible.
You know, going back, you talkabout the big three, right?
Esteli, condega, and jalapa.
The amount of variations, Imean, with all the brands that
we've that we've made thatyou've blended, I mean, there's
so many more variations oftobaccos that we haven't even
touched yet, whether it be thefrom the Seiko Visa or the
Lijero components of the actualtobacco, we have so many.
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How many, how many blends couldwe, how many more blends could
we make that we haven't eventhought about?
SPEAKER_00 (16:59):
Quite a few.
That's one of the great thingsabout uh you know Nicaragua with
all the different regions beingso far, like I said earlier.
And and I think the hardestcigar to make was the
collaboration because we wantedsomething to be so flavorful,
but what we ended up coming outwith was not only a flavorful
cigar, but a cigar that has sucha nice, smooth, clean finish.
(17:19):
Yep.
Um, you know, we talk aboutsoft, buttery, almond, vanilla
that are natural in thetobaccos.
And when Connecticut is fullycured, fully fermented, not 50%,
60%, but 100%, and then puttingin the bale where those flavors
interlock and marry and becomeharmonious and work with the
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blend with the tobaccos we gotto play with, with the fillers
and binders, it is an exquisitecigar.
So when you go back toConnecticut, you know, we want
that clean, smooth finish, andwe're famous for it.
I mean, if you look at brandslike Perdoma Reserve, 10th
anniversary champagne been outover two decades.
Perdoma Habana, same thing, 20plus years in the industry,
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still growing by leaps andbounds.
Uh 20th anniversary,Connecticut, 30th anniversary,
Connecticut.
I think we've our team hasbecome experts by working
Connecticut and working itharmoniously with our famed
Nicaraguan fillers and binders.
I mean, I think we're one of therevolutionary guys who started
Connecticut.
When I first started in theindustry, Connecticut was bland
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tart with light tobaccos, and weamped it up and we made
Connecticut extremely flavorfulbecause I believe it works so
great with Nicaraguan fillersand binders.
And I'm so proud of thatcollaboration we made.
And I'll repeat it again (18:35):
if you're looking for something
smooth, clean, and just veryflavorful, that Connecticut
wrapper is phenomenal and itburns like baby powder because
it's it's just so well-aged.
It any tobacco, Connecticut getsa bad, bad, bad wrap.
Oh, it's light, it's yellow, itmust be light, it's bitter, it's
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tart.
You know, in a lot of instances,those consumers are 100% right.
And the reason is becauseConnecticut burns from the plant
green.
People, it's then so expensive.
People, what they do is theybring it from the curing house,
they give it one sweat, andwe'll go into that later
throughout the next podcastabout sweating and fermentation
and so on.
And then they make a cigar withit.
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Well, of course, any tobaccowould would would be tart and
bitter if you did that.
But the saving grace is that fora lot of people, is because
Connecticut burns well, evenraw, it it's it's an attribute
because they spend so muchmoney.
But in reality, any tobacco hasto be fully cured, fermented,
and aged.
And when you do that withConnecticut, it's a totally
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different animal.
And I know a lot of expertsmokers and older guys that are
smoking Connecticut now andgoing back to it, less acidity
and so on and so on as we getolder.
And uh look, even in our in ourin our place, I mean, Arthur
smokes pretty much solelyConnecticut.
He's an expert smoker, he's beenwith me for almost you know 20,
20, 25 plus years.
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He knows how to smoke cigars,and his favorite cigar today is
Connecticut.
It wasn't that way years ago.
It's because he's grown into it,because he's seen the processes
that we've done, and we all do.
We all smoke Connecticut cigars,and that cigar is definitely
another winner in therepertoire.
And I'm very proud of it, andespecially being able to work
together with it.
SPEAKER_01 (20:17):
It was fun.
SPEAKER_00 (20:18):
Yeah, and a lot of trials and tribulations at the
same time, but we got it done,and that's that's what it's all
about.
And the consumer and theretailer is going to win, and
I'm very happy about that.
SPEAKER_01 (20:26):
We worked with really great tobacco.
Again, going back 10 to 15 yearage fillers, you know, looking,
I mean, we were working bale tobale.
We went from bales from 2011when I was still graduating high
school uh all the way through2016.
We wanted to use certified 10 to15 year age tobaccos to give a
little bit more of a softnessversus where legacy, when I
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blended that cigar for you, Iwanted to blend it kind of to
your personality.
Very aggressive, but balanced,you know, and I felt that that
was important for me, and Ireally wanted to make the most
flavorful cigar as possible.
And I think we accomplished thatwith Perdomo Legacy.
Now, Perdomo Legacy father andson is just it's just such a
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it's such a special blend.
I'm so proud of it, and it wasit was so much fun working with
you.
SPEAKER_00 (21:14):
It really was, and I think the job and the packaging
was equally as important.
Uh the colors, you know,everybody when we started
putting pictures out of thebrand, and it the pictures don't
do it justice.
No.
SPEAKER_01 (21:27):
And that green was just well, Dad, my question is
going back now, looking at thepackaging, right?
When you when we look at thepackaging and when we look at
Perdomo Legacy, to me, it isartwork.
It is the most beautifulpackaging when you look at the
golds, the foils, all thesedifferent things.
And how could we use that?
Because we wanted to use thisbrand under the legacy, just
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under the legacy name.
Um, you know, we have the blackand prodomo legacy, the red, the
blue.
Beautiful colors.
Gorgeous.
And one of the things is Youbeing a watch enthusiast and you
making me a watch enthusiast,um, you know, you took two, you
know, we use green, but they'renot both the same greens, right?
(22:11):
Um, can you give a little bit ofthe thought behind it in terms
of luxury products today, howpowerful green is in the
markets, and really just how youwere inspired by it?
SPEAKER_00 (22:22):
It's super powerful in the luxury segment.
I love green in general.
It was really not used much incigars, very few cigars, and a
lot of marketing companies willtell you green and blue are bad
colors.
I think we proved that wrongwith blue and legacy and the
beautiful blue we use in 10thanniversary Maduro.
And we decided collectively thatgreen would be a great color.
(22:45):
And I looked at watch brandslike Patek Philippe, and I
looked at watch brands likeRolex with their Daytona and the
green, and we kind of made a wemixed a green that I don't even
know if it has a Pantone color,to be honest with you.
And I think uh the job that wasdone between you and Arthur and
picking these were phenomenal,and it's so attractive.
(23:06):
And what's even better is thecigar is better than how
beautifully packaged the cigaris, and that's what it's all
about.
I've always thought that ourcigars were wonderful and we
would bring our packaging up,and we sure did.
And I think we got the bestpackaging in the industry.
I might be a little zealoussaying that, but I believe that
from the bottom of my heart.
And this is this is just at thetop of the pinnacle, and I'd
(23:30):
love the way it looks.
And coming in chest of 50, youknow, I look I look back at you
know, listening to my father'sstories and cabinets of fifty
and how elegant they were in theold days, these beautiful
chests, and we're we'reproviding that to the consumer
at a price point of only$15 acigar using these types of
tobaccos, it's unheard of.
It's not the$75 to$100 cigar theconsumer's getting pitched every
(23:54):
day at, which I don't believe isfair.
I think they're getting atremendous bang for their buck,
and I'm beyond excited about it.
SPEAKER_01 (24:01):
But Dad, even those 50-count chests, they're they're
works of art.
I mean, if I'm a consumer and Ibuy a chest of Perdomo Legacy
father and son, I'm gonna buybovada packs, put them in there,
treat it as my own humidor.
It's so versatile.
It is versatile because we madethe box.
SPEAKER_00 (24:22):
Yeah, we made that box that it could be a humidor.
So if you do use a pack, ahumidified pack in there, it's
going to make it's gonna keepthe cigars, they'll be aging.
It's extremely well-cured cedarthat we've kiln dried to four
percent moisture.
It's the perfect aging box forthe cigars, even though the
cigars have been aged for for alot of years.
(24:45):
I mean, it makes it makes it'sjust it's just incredible.
It's a it's a showpiece thatanybody can have in their home
and be proud of.
And I'm proud of that.
SPEAKER_01 (24:52):
I'm proud of it too, Dad.
I think we did a great job.
And in closing, everything, youknow, with our family today has
been about legacy.
And you look and you see thatyou know, there's a great
chance, a great opportunity forPerdomo cigars to have future
generations with your grandkidsand so forth, and you know, I
think that you could give memore if you wanted to.
Kitchen's closed.
(25:13):
But I think looking uh lookingback, I'm just really proud of
what we've done.
And it took the third and fourthgeneration of Perdomo to create
a Prodomo Legacy father and soncollaboration brand.
I'm sure that your grandfatherand your father would be so
proud to see what you'veaccomplished and to see what
we're accomplishing, not justfor their sake and in their
(25:34):
honor, but for the futuregenerations of our family.
So I think the best is yet tocome.
And Dad, I'm proud and sograteful that I get to hang out
with you some more, do thesepodcasts, educate our customers,
our retailers and consumers, andreally just continue to build
the bonds that we've built overthe years.
And I think that we havesomething really special, and I
(25:54):
just can't wait for thisjourney.
And I can't, I couldn't be morehappy to be on this journey with
you, Dad.
SPEAKER_00 (25:58):
Well, likewise, I feel the same way, son, and I'm
excited about giving all theknowledge that I've learned
through from my father, mygrandfather, and the decades
I've been in the cigar industryfor all the cigar lovers out
there.
SPEAKER_01 (26:11):
Yeah, so thank you so much, Dad.
And to everyone listening, thankyou so much for listening.
Thank you for your support.
Please like and subscribe to theProMa podcast show.
We're going to see us very soon.
Thank you so much.
Thanks, guys.
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