April 13, 2026 • 24 mins
The fastest way to ruin a great cigar is to rush the first 60 seconds. Nicholas Perdomo sits down with his dad, Nick Perdomo, to break down the hands-on cigar basics that most people never learn: how to cut a cigar cleanly, how to light a cigar without scorching flavor, and how to avoid the common mistakes that lead to harsh smoke and constant relights.
We get specific about cigar cutting techniques, comparing the straight cut, V-cut, and punch cut with clear pros and cons for draw, smoke temperature, and blend consistency. Nick explains why a guillotine straight cut is his top choice, how to “shave the cap” so you don’t pull tobacco into your mouth, and how to handle intimidating shapes like a torpedo or belicoso with a simple quarter-inch clip. If you’ve ever wondered why a punch cut can feel hot or why a V-cut sometimes leaves debris, you’ll hear the practical reasons in plain language.
Then we move to cigar lighting. Instead of torching the foot, we walk through the “toast the foot” method, rotating the cigar 360 degrees to seal the wrapper to the binder for better combustibility, less flaking, and a cleaner burn. We also share why we don’t remove the cigar band too early, plus the “pinky rule” that helps prevent wrapper cracks.
To close, we tackle nicotine sickness: how not to get sick from a cigar, how proper humidity around 65% matters, why you should never inhale, and the quick sugar fix we use during tasting and blending. If you found this helpful, subscribe, share it with a friend who keeps torching the foot, and leave a review with your go-to cutter and lighter setup.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Nicholas Perdomo with Prodomo Cigars.
I'm alongside my dad, NickProdomo.
And welcome to the ProdomoPodcast Show.
Very smooth.
Thank you, Dad.
Well, Dad, episode number two.
And today we have some reallygood information to talk about
stuff that you've been askedover the years, things that
you've shown and taught peopleover the years.
(00:24):
And what we're going to get intotoday is a couple different
topics.
How to properly cut a cigar, howto properly light a cigar,
common mistakes, and how toavoid them.
And another big topic that youwere really big on is how not to
get sick on a cigar.
SPEAKER_00 (00:40):
That's a big topic, but all three are big topics,
that's for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (00:44):
It is, Dad.
And you know, there are multipleways.
And I think that we can agreethat probably the top three ways
to cut a cigar, the first, uh,the most popular cutter, for
example, is a straight cut,probably followed by number two,
a V cut, and then a punch cut.
I would say is number three.
So Dad, I I think our personalfavorite would be a straight cut
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or a guillotine cutter.
Can you talk a little bit aboutthe pros and cons and why with a
straight cut?
SPEAKER_00 (01:10):
Well, I think you only have a pro with the
straight cut, to be honest withyou.
The reason I like the straightcut is when you cut the cigar
across, you get the most volumebecause you basically cut the
head wide open in a straightcut, and you're gonna have more
voluminous smoke naturally, notby having to puff hard, which is
a great thing.
Second thing you're gonna haveis the cigar is gonna smoke
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cooler.
And the third thing, you'regonna be able to taste the blend
consistently because you have acompletely wide open mouth on
the top of the cigar.
So that's my favorite way to cutthe cigar.
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
Awesome, Dad.
And if you can, I think one ofthe biggest things is can you
show how to properly cut thecigar?
SPEAKER_00 (01:48):
Of course.
One of the things that when youlook at the cigar, you have the
cap on the top.
And since we at Perdomo, we drawtest every single cigar we
manufacture.
The cap is really an aestheticpart for us.
So the important thing is whenwe cut the cap, we don't want to
have tobacco on that cutter, onthe top of the bottom.
It's no different than playinggolf.
You hit a fat shot, you'redigging up dirt because you hit
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it so deep.
Same thing with cutting it.
If you see tobacco on the top ofthat cutter, there's going to be
tobacco settling on the bottomof that cutter.
And when you put the cigar inyour mouth, you're going to have
those little bits of tobaccothat you don't need to have.
And it's also very bothersome.
So if I can demonstrate, what Iwant to do is I want to get this
flat cut.
And basically, what I want to dowhen I get done, I just want to
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shave the top of the head.
And if you look here, you'llnotice that the only thing that
I cut was really the cap.
That's all I want.
Nice clean cut.
There's no pieces of tobacco onthere.
And that's my favorite cutbecause if you look, you have a
wide open mouth there, you'regoing to have a much cooler
smoke, you're going to be ableto taste a cigar better, and I
think you're going to enjoy itmuch better.
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So that's my favorite cut.
But we also have different typesof cutters we use.
I think also when we cut abellicosa or a torpedo that
we're famous for, I also like touse a flat cut.
I see a lot of people saying Ilike the V-cut better.
I personally don't understandwhy the V-cut would be using the
torpedo, but if that's whatpeople like, that's fine.
But I like a flat cutter.
And what I like to do when I cutthe torpedo, if I can show it,
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is I like to cut about a quarterof an inch.
That's all you really need.
Just need to just clip justliterally a quarter inch of the
cigar of the Bellicosa or atorpedo shape, which looks a lot
like this.
That's it.
And the cigar will drawperfectly.
And you get the circumference ofthe of the ring gauge being
slightly smaller when it goesinto your mouth, which is very
comfortable.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Yeah, and it's it's funny because I mean, over the
years, you know it better thananybody.
Unfortunately, I think a lot ofthe cigar smokers, the
consumers, they can be timid topick up a figured-shaped cigar.
And unfortunately, I wish peopleasked more questions.
And that's really an amazingsize, and it helps with flavor
concentration and so forth.
But people I think are prettyintimidated for the most part in
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terms of how to cut afigured-shaped cigar, whether it
be a bellicoso, a torpedo.
And really, unfortunately,they're missing out because of
how incredible from the waythose cigars were made by the
cigar makers, the buncher, thethe roller.
It's just so it's just a specialsize.
But thanks for showing that ourviewers how to properly cut.
SPEAKER_00 (04:17):
Yeah, I think it's just so important.
You know, we smoke cigars, weenjoy them, people spend a lot
of money on them.
How can we make them moreenjoyable?
And I think a podcast like thisis essential for all the smokers
out there to learn.
Whether you've been smokingcigars for four days or 40
years, it's always good to havereally good technique.
And one of the things that'salways bothered me is how people
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cut and light cigars and thehurry they have.
Why do we smoke cigars?
We sit down, we enjoy, we drinkour favorite beverage, whether
it be alcohol or non-alcoholic,we take our time, but everybody
is in a massive hurry to cut andlight their cigars.
And if you do it and you're in ahurry, like anything, you're
probably going to do itimproperly.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
Yeah, no doubt.
No doubt.
And I think the next thing weI'd like to go into is, you
know, we have a couple ofdifferent other colors too, is
I'd like to talk about the Vcut.
And if you could show us andtalk a little bit about a V cut,
you know, pros and cons, and ifyou can show how it looks.
SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
Well, the V cut, what I like about it is when you
put it over the cigar, you youbasically have a jig that's set
up for you.
Sure.
And I like this deep cut fromCalibri a lot.
So when you cut it, you're goingto get that deep V cut, but also
you're going to get pieces oftobacco, which I don't like.
And you put a lot of pressure onthe head of the cigar.
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So what happens is there'salways going to be small
particles of tobacco underneathbecause of how deep it cuts.
So it's not my favorite.
I don't say it's wrong.
If you like a V-cut, that'sgreat.
Everything's optional and on thetable, but I prefer the flat
cut.
But the V-cut does work verygood, but it does have
settlements of tobacco on thebottom.
(05:53):
So it's it would be my secondfavorite, right?
To be quite honest with you.
SPEAKER_01 (05:57):
Yeah, no doubt.
I'm I agree with you 100%.
And the last cut I would say isthe is the punch cut.
And I don't think it's aspopular as it used to be.
I remember as a kid, I'd see alot of people with the punch
cuts always on the keychains andsure.
And I don't think it's like thatanymore.
I think more people gravitatedtowards the straight cut, even
the V cut.
But just for showing ouraudience and talking about and
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explaining the pros and cons, ifyou could, and show and talk
about it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:22):
The only pro that I see on the on the bullet or the
punch cut is that you it'seasily you can put it in your
pocket, you can put it on akeychain.
If you look at the cigar, whenyou push down on the cigar on
the head, you're putting a lotof pressure, right?
Right.
So if you're pushing down onthis cigar with the with the
punch cut, you're really puttingpressure on the head of that
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cigar.
And then when you pop it out,you gotta lift up the cap
sometimes.
It depends on how good thecutter is.
Right.
And what you do is you get thistiny little hole.
What I don't like about thepunch cut is that that hole, you
have a concentration of smokenow.
Because remember, you don't havea clean cut.
You still have you still havethe cap all the way around that
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that hole.
So what happens is when yousmoke, the temperature increases
quite a bit because of the caparound it still being whole.
You have a much smaller surfaceof smoke, so I think the cigar
is going to burn hotter.
I don't think you're gonna beable to taste the complete blend
because it's so concentrated.
And as you continue smoking,saliva is gonna build up in the
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front of it.
So it's not my favorite.
But then again, smoking issubjective.
If you like it, then that'sgreat.
It just happens to be my leastfavorite of the three cutters.
SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
Well, if you were to recommend it or if somebody was
like, Well, I kind of is there aspecific ring gauge that you
would say it works better, is itbetter for smaller cigars or
bigger cigars?
SPEAKER_00 (07:49):
I definitely think it's better for smaller cigars
because you have such such smallcircumference around that little
hole that the smaller the headof the parallel cigar is, the
better the the bullet cut wouldbe.
But again, dollar for dollar,I'm taking a flat guilt
guillotine cut all day long.
That's my favorite, but doesn'tnecessarily mean it's everybody
else's favorite.
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
So it's objective.
Well, it means a lot becauseit's coming from you and and
somebody who designed cigars andhow you make cigars in terms of
how you position the leaves fromthe bunch of the cigar.
You're the master.
And so I think it really comesacross as very educational.
I think it's important that youexplain this.
And I'm glad we did this andtalked about this.
I think the next subject isgoing to be on how to light a
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cigar.
SPEAKER_00 (08:30):
And so and the lighting of the cigar is is so
important too, because whathappens is everybody knows what
a tobacco leaf looks like.
So the tobacco leaf has tip.
It has a tip all the way in thefront, it circles around as a
leaf.
And when the cigar roller makesthat cigar, the most valuable
flavor characteristcharacteristic of that leaf is
really in the mid part of theleaf, all the way to the tip.
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And the reason it's so importantis because that leaf has the
most sun exposure, regardless ofits position.
And we'll go into position andprimings in future podcasts.
But what happens is the thosetips, when the cigar roller
makes a cigar, whether it's afive, six or a seven-inch cigar,
he always takes his thumb a halfinch behind the bunch because
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he's going to have to pre-cutthe bunch a half inch longer.
The reason is, is if not, everycigar would have a soft spot in
the front.
So you'd have more structuralrigidity if you if you cut it a
half inch, so it's it's nice andtout from the beginning all the
way to the end, the way thecigar should be.
So with that being said, theytake the tips and they line them
in the front.
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The reason we do that is so youcan taste flavor from beginning
to end.
And what people do is they takethe cigar and they sit there and
torch the cigar.
It's just it's crazy sometimes.
And what they're doing isthey're they're burning the tips
of those tips of the tobaccothat are lined up in the front
of the bunch, and they build allthis carbon buildup.
And you'll see the wrappers willhave all this soot on the side,
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and it's to do it fast.
The first thing you have to dowhen you light a cigar is you
have to toast a foot.
And what I mean by toasting thefoot is the wrapper is the leaf
on the outside, and underneaththe wrapper is the binder, and
the binder is what holds theblend.
Right.
So, what we want to do is wewant to seal that binder and the
wrapper into that binder.
So basically, the cigar doesn'thave any accelerator, so we want
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to use kind of a gauge.
So we use the top of the band,and when we finish toasting the
cigar, well, of course, the topof the band should be on top
because it's a 360-degreeradius.
So we call it lighting a cigar,not torching a cigar, right?
So the hottest part of thelighter is just above.
So if you look when I go here,you'll notice that you get a
little amber light.
And as I'm turning, the lightkeeps keeps going.
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And every time I see that littleamber light, I keep turning
until I get all the way around,till I get to the top of that
cigar.
So if you look, you'll noticethat it starts smoking, but at
the same time, there's no sooton the wrapper because what I
did is I toasted the end of thatwrapper through the heat of the
lighter to seal that wrapperinto the binder.
What's going to happen is you'renot going to have flaking and
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you're going to have bettercombustibility once you learn to
light.
Now, when you light the cigar,you're doing it the same way.
The only difference is nowyou're going to actually put the
cigar in your mouth and lightit.
So, same thing.
I'm going to keep, you'll seethe lighter will be underneath
the cigar quite a bit, butyou'll see the heat rise and do
it.
So I'll show you.
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And when I'm done, I have thisbeautiful orange amber light on
the bottom.
And basically what I did is Ilit my cigar.
And it takes about 15 extraseconds.
But one thing that I guaranteeis you'll have a better burning
cigar, you'll have a much moreenjoyable smoking cigar
experience because you didn'tchar any of it.
There's really no carbon buildupbecause you lit your cigar
correctly.
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And I think these things arejust so important because if you
don't toast a foot first, you'renot going to get that wrapper
sealed into the binder.
That's the first thing.
You got to make sure that yourotate that cigar all the way
around in a 360-degree radius.
That way you make sure that youproperly light that cigar
completely around.
And then you got to light thecigar correctly.
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And I think it's going to be, Iknow for sure, you'll have a
much more enjoyable experience.
You will have much lessrelights.
And that's what we're here tosmoke cigars, really to enjoy
them, right?
SPEAKER_01 (12:22):
Yeah, 100%.
And it's important.
And you know, telling thecustomers and showing our
retailers, our consumers that weline the cigar from right when
they right when they light thecigar with the most flavorful
part of the leaves, in terms ofthose tips, right from the foot.
And we line that entire cigar upall the way.
So from beginning to end, youget all those flavors.
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But how you start, I guess, isreally how you finish.
So if you start correctly interms of how you light the
cigar, and prior to that, howyou cut the cigar, you're going
to have maximum enjoyment.
SPEAKER_00 (12:53):
Yeah, just envision a wrapper being a glass tube,
and you have your your bunch andyour fillers and your blend
inside, and you're taking alighter and you're doing this to
it.
Right.
That light is going to go inthere and it's going to go into
that that heat, you're actuallyscorching a cigar a half inch
in, and all those tips and allthat flavor now are getting
scorched.
It's almost like taking a pieceof steak with a with a welder
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and welding on top of the steak.
You're you're just you're justcharring it for no reason.
You're not going to get anythingout of it.
So it's important to reallylearn how to cut and light the
cigar correctly.
And I've been really adamantabout it.
I think a lot of people haveappreciated, and I hope I hope
people learn from this.
SPEAKER_01 (13:31):
So, Dad, we just finished talking about cutting
and lighting a cigar.
So, my next question is, andyou've been talking about this
for a long time, is why shouldyou not remove the band of a
cigar?
SPEAKER_00 (13:42):
Yeah, it's a great question.
And it's kind of funny when Italk to consumers around the
world on why they shouldn't takethe band off.
They assume that I'm tellingthem not to take the band off
because I want them for peopleto see the cigar.
And then in the instance, yeah,it's true.
But in reality, the reason Idon't want them to take the band
off is when the operators thatput the bands on, they do it all
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by hand at our factory, andwe've all seen that.
So they take a little piece ofthe pectin on their fingertips
and they put it down on theband.
Some of it could touch thewrapper.
Right.
It's only natural.
So what happens is if you pullthe the band off, what'll happen
is you put a lot of stress onthe wrapper because you're
pulling the wrapper up.
And you can imagine when we rollthat cigar, we roll it out as
thin as we possibly can, almostto a to an instance of being
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like an onion skin.
It's that, it's that, it's that,it's that thin, right?
So it's going to cause problemsif you pull that band off.
And that's sometimes that's whenyou'll see little stress cracks
and the cigar pops, and they goto the retailer and complain,
oh, there was something wrongwith my cigar.
Well, it was really operatorerror from taking the band off.
And then sometimes they'll takethe band off and a piece of the
wrapper will come off when theytake the band off.
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And then all of a sudden, youreally hurt the smoking
experience.
I always recommend, I call itthe pinky rule.
You take your pinky, and justwhen you're smoking a cigar,
right when it gets a beam, youryour pinky, the width of your
pinky, what'll happen is thatcigar, the barrel will heat up,
and then that pectin will melt.
It's the same pectin we use onthe cap.
It's flavorless and odorous,it's just as it's a fruit, and
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it actually has a slightadhesive quality to it.
And we've been sealing cigarslike that since before your
grandfather was born.
But with that being said, whatit does is you'll have a much
more enjoyable smokingexperience because your cigar
will be intact.
If you cut the cigar right andyou lit it right and you're
enjoying that cigar, to take theband off and cause stress cracks
on the wrapper.
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It might not happen, but ithappens a lot.
Why take the chance?
That's why it's so important toleave the band on until you're
about a quarter inch from theband, and then it'll come off
very easily because the heatthrough the barrel by you
smoking it will melt the pect,then it'll come off much easier
if you want to take the band offwhenever you do.
SPEAKER_01 (15:48):
No doubt.
And I guess the last subject,you know, very important is I
wish I would have learned itearlier in my life, is how not
to get sick off of a cigar.
SPEAKER_00 (16:00):
Yeah, that's an important thing.
You know, it happens to all ofus.
It happens to every seasonedveteran, including yours truly.
I've I've been queasing and sicka lot of times from smoking
cigars, but I always say there'sreally five rules that I use.
The first one is, especially ifyou're new to smoking, don't
smoke on an empty stomach.
It's not a bad idea to have alittle bit of food, maybe a
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little bit of breakfast,equalizes your system, you'll be
a lot better for it.
And what happens is when yousmoke on an empty stomach, you
could get queasy.
You know, nicotine in thebloodstream, it's only a natural
thing.
It's an accelerator, it gets youexcited, builds adrenaline.
And what happens is you startgetting queasy.
Right.
The cold sweats start coming,you become pale, and then all of
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a sudden it's like the old kegparty in college.
You're running to the bathroomand and and throwing up, and
it's a terrible feeling.
So one of the things I alwaysrecommend is definitely don't
smoke on an empty stomach unlessyou're pretty much a seasoned
vet, or if it doesn't bother youfor that matter.
Second thing is cigars.
They're not cigarettes.
We enjoy them.
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It's no different than drinkingwine.
We savor the flavors in ourmouth with our taste buds.
Cigars are the same way.
Don't inhale cigars.
That's another way to rushyourself to the bathroom or to
the bushes, and when you startgetting queasy and not feeling
well, right?
Right.
You've gone through that too.
I think Arthur has.
I think all of us have.
SPEAKER_01 (17:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:26):
And you know, we talk about enjoyment on cigars.
What is the hurry?
We talked earlier about lightingthe cigar and being in a hurry.
Slow down when you're smokingyour cigar.
Take a puff every 25, 30seconds.
If you're talking a longer timeand you have to relight, no
problem.
Relight the cigar if you haveto.
We'll get into differentsegments on how to properly
relight cigars, too.
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And one of the most importantthings, and my fourth rule is
make sure your cigars are ingood condition.
And what I mean is that they'rehumidified correctly.
That's 65% humidity where thecigars are where they should be.
And what you want to do is whena cigar is properly humidified
and you're taking your time,that cigar is going to burn
slowly and you're going to enjoyit.
It's going to burn cooler.
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If the cigar is too dry, that'snot a good thing either.
Because what happens is it'slike, hey, it burns really fast.
When you puff, you're probablygetting a lot more smoke than
you normally would get becausethe tobacco is so dry.
And you're going to bring in allthese, all this amount of volume
of smoke, and it could get youqueasy because one puff could be
like three puffs, right?
SPEAKER_01 (18:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:29):
Even worse is an overhumidified cigar.
We know the fire and water don'tmix, right?
Nope.
So what happens is now you'repuffing really hard because the
cigar is wet and too humidified,and you keep puffing and puffing
and puffing.
Guess what happens?
Cold sweats, you start gettingqueasy again.
It's the same thing.
You start feeling bad.
I mean, a cigar is one of themost enjoyable experiences in
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life, but if you don't do itright, it's a fine, it's a fine
line where you come from I'mloving it, I'm enjoying life, to
man, I feel like crap, right?
So you got to be careful atthat.
And one of the things that youalso have to be careful is
alcohol consumption and caffeineconsumption, both of them.
If you're drinking a lot andyou're smoking cigars, those are
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two recipes for for getting younot to feel well.
Naturally, if you drink a lot,you're gonna you're gonna get
sick sooner or later.
But if you had smoking a greatcigar with it, it could
accelerate it too.
Also, if you're down in lots ofcoffee, caffeine and nicotine,
you're gonna be running, youknow, the the 40 in two seconds,
and it's gonna cause atremendous amount of adrenaline,
cortisol, and you're gonna havethe same thing happening to you,
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which will get you sick.
Those are my five rules not toget you sick.
SPEAKER_01 (19:38):
Yeah, no, those are great rules.
I wish I would have learned themearlier in life, would have
definitely helped me a lot.
So but yeah, I think I thinkthis is all incredible content
that we've been talking about,and I think one of the to recap,
I think Well, here's here's thequestion.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
How we had talked about it earlier today.
How do we avoid if we do getsick and we get queasy, how do
we how do we fix it?
So I'm gonna ask you thatbecause I think you know that.
So I'm gonna ask you a question.
Okay.
And tell me how we do it in theprofessional way, where we do it
in our facilities, whether it beour rollers, our sorters, or
selectors, what do we do when weget queased and we're sitting
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around in a tasting panel andwe've smoked these cigars and
we've been blending them andwe're trying to get the perfect
cigar out there and we'reforecasting tobaccos.
What do we do?
SPEAKER_01 (20:25):
Well, I think the biggest thing is is, you know,
because when the nicotine doesget in your bloodstream, it does
send a fake signal to your brainthat you have you're low on on
your blood sugar.
So that's where the queasinessand all that starts getting
getting into it.
So sometimes when I'm smoking acigar, even though I've eaten, I
always take a little piece ofchocolate, a little piece of
candy, something with a littlebit of sugar, just in case if I
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know I'm gonna be smokingthrough, you know, four or five
plus cigars in the day, just tohave a little bit of extra
sugar.
So just when when I do havenicotine and quite a bit of
nicotine in my bloodstream, Idon't want I don't want that
fake signal.
SPEAKER_00 (21:00):
Okay, you're spot on.
That's what we do.
Even when we're when you see ourpeople in our sorting and
selecting rooms who don't evensmoke cigars, they'll get queasy
because of the powerful aromasthrough fermentation.
We all love the smells, butimagine being in those rooms for
a couple hours and smellingthose.
You know, they get their breaks,they go outside, get fresh air,
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but those aromas and those oilsand resins, they dissipate
through the air.
And they're I love them.
I could I could sleep there, butsome people it it it gravitates
and starts making them feel alittle bit feel a little bit
queasy.
So we always have little sugarpackets, mints, little pieces of
chocolate all on the tables.
You'll see even on in on therolling rooms.
The only time we allow any foodproduct there, and that's in
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case they get a little queasy todo it.
So yeah, that's a great point.
I think people are interested,hey, well what happens if I do
get sick?
Is there a quick way I can fixmyself?
Yeah, I think sugar is one ofthe things.
One of the things I hate issugar, but I try if I'm gonna
get queasy, I'm I'm all over itbecause it's important.
SPEAKER_01 (21:57):
Yeah, of course.
And you know, I guess tying thisall up and looking back at
everything how to properly cutand light how to properly cut
and lighten the cigar you knoweverything all the different
things we just talked about Ithink the word that comes to
mind is patience andunfortunately it's sad because
we get into the groove we becomethis becomes a habit for us in
terms of smoking cigar every daybut sometimes I tell myself
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because you've taught me overthe years so much hey just take
your time enjoy it and eventhough I'm in the office and
we're working and I'm trying todo my my work and I want to
smoke a cigar you know I findmyself sometimes rushing.
But in reality what a this is aproduct you can never you have
to be patient.
SPEAKER_00 (22:38):
A hundred percent like what do we do at the end of
the evening if we all gettogether like a lot of times we
went we went out to dinner lastweek with the guys we all sit
down we take our time we cut ourcigar we toast the foot we light
it correctly all our guys do itcorrectly because they're in the
industry it's always enjoyable alot of times I'll see guys have
to relight all these cigarsthey're smoking you know
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regardless of what brands theyare and a lot of it has to do
because they improperly cuttheir cigar they properly they
improperly lit it they didn'tlight it correctly and they have
to go back and when you have torelight cigars nonstop over and
over again you're building morecarbon buildup and it becomes
foul.
So my whole thing about thislesson here that we talked about
is how can we make the smokingexperience so much more
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enjoyable and I think all thethings we talked about make it
much more enjoyable.
SPEAKER_01 (23:26):
Yeah take your time be mindful of what you're doing
especially you know these thesecigars you know they cost money
and you put the investment in itand I think at the end of the
day it's all this conversationbetween you and I to talk to our
consumers to talk to ourretailers is to make them
mindful of hey you know we makethese cigars we want you to
enjoy these cigars and thesesteps that we that you
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specifically have talked aboutand we've discussed is the way
to do it.
SPEAKER_00 (23:53):
100% and I love when and we all do we love when
people enjoy our cigars and Ithink by doing these things that
we talked about like I saidearlier we'll make the smoking
experience much more enjoyableand that's what it's all about.
SPEAKER_01 (24:06):
Yeah I agree.
I agree this has been a greatshow very informative and I hope
that our listeners and ourviewers enjoy this I think this
was another great show.
I'm glad this was number two solooking forward to the next
shows.
SPEAKER_00 (24:20):
Yeah and I love it.
I love the education and I thinkthe consumers are going to love
it.
And they're getting it directlyfrom the guys that do it.
Not a guy that writes in amagazine who's been to a cigar
factory once every 10 years butsomebody who's in there every
day and that's what we do and Ithink it's important.
I hope you guys all enjoy it.
SPEAKER_01 (24:36):
I appreciate it Dad thanks so much for spending some
time with your boy it's always apleasure hanging out with you.
I love hanging out with you tooson and thank you everybody who
listened uh and watched thisshow um this was episode number
two we're looking forward tocoming out with episode number
three uh this is the Promopodcast show please like and
subscribe and we'll see you verysoon
Hi, I'm Nicholas Perdomo with Prodomo Cigars.
I'm alongside my dad, NickProdomo.
And welcome to the ProdomoPodcast Show.
Very smooth.
Thank you, Dad.
Well, Dad, episode number two.
And today we have some reallygood information to talk about
stuff that you've been askedover the years, things that
you've shown and taught peopleover the years.
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And what we're going to get intotoday is a couple different
topics.
How to properly cut a cigar, howto properly light a cigar,
common mistakes, and how toavoid them.
And another big topic that youwere really big on is how not to
get sick on a cigar.
SPEAKER_00 (00:40):
That's a big topic, but all three are big topics,
that's for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (00:44):
It is, Dad.
And you know, there are multipleways.
And I think that we can agreethat probably the top three ways
to cut a cigar, the first, uh,the most popular cutter, for
example, is a straight cut,probably followed by number two,
a V cut, and then a punch cut.
I would say is number three.
So Dad, I I think our personalfavorite would be a straight cut
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or a guillotine cutter.
Can you talk a little bit aboutthe pros and cons and why with a
straight cut?
SPEAKER_00 (01:10):
Well, I think you only have a pro with the
straight cut, to be honest withyou.
The reason I like the straightcut is when you cut the cigar
across, you get the most volumebecause you basically cut the
head wide open in a straightcut, and you're gonna have more
voluminous smoke naturally, notby having to puff hard, which is
a great thing.
Second thing you're gonna haveis the cigar is gonna smoke
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cooler.
And the third thing, you'regonna be able to taste the blend
consistently because you have acompletely wide open mouth on
the top of the cigar.
So that's my favorite way to cutthe cigar.
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
Awesome, Dad.
And if you can, I think one ofthe biggest things is can you
show how to properly cut thecigar?
SPEAKER_00 (01:48):
Of course.
One of the things that when youlook at the cigar, you have the
cap on the top.
And since we at Perdomo, we drawtest every single cigar we
manufacture.
The cap is really an aestheticpart for us.
So the important thing is whenwe cut the cap, we don't want to
have tobacco on that cutter, onthe top of the bottom.
It's no different than playinggolf.
You hit a fat shot, you'redigging up dirt because you hit
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it so deep.
Same thing with cutting it.
If you see tobacco on the top ofthat cutter, there's going to be
tobacco settling on the bottomof that cutter.
And when you put the cigar inyour mouth, you're going to have
those little bits of tobaccothat you don't need to have.
And it's also very bothersome.
So if I can demonstrate, what Iwant to do is I want to get this
flat cut.
And basically, what I want to dowhen I get done, I just want to
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shave the top of the head.
And if you look here, you'llnotice that the only thing that
I cut was really the cap.
That's all I want.
Nice clean cut.
There's no pieces of tobacco onthere.
And that's my favorite cutbecause if you look, you have a
wide open mouth there, you'regoing to have a much cooler
smoke, you're going to be ableto taste a cigar better, and I
think you're going to enjoy itmuch better.
(02:54):
So that's my favorite cut.
But we also have different typesof cutters we use.
I think also when we cut abellicosa or a torpedo that
we're famous for, I also like touse a flat cut.
I see a lot of people saying Ilike the V-cut better.
I personally don't understandwhy the V-cut would be using the
torpedo, but if that's whatpeople like, that's fine.
But I like a flat cutter.
And what I like to do when I cutthe torpedo, if I can show it,
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is I like to cut about a quarterof an inch.
That's all you really need.
Just need to just clip justliterally a quarter inch of the
cigar of the Bellicosa or atorpedo shape, which looks a lot
like this.
That's it.
And the cigar will drawperfectly.
And you get the circumference ofthe of the ring gauge being
slightly smaller when it goesinto your mouth, which is very
comfortable.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Yeah, and it's it's funny because I mean, over the
years, you know it better thananybody.
Unfortunately, I think a lot ofthe cigar smokers, the
consumers, they can be timid topick up a figured-shaped cigar.
And unfortunately, I wish peopleasked more questions.
And that's really an amazingsize, and it helps with flavor
concentration and so forth.
But people I think are prettyintimidated for the most part in
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terms of how to cut afigured-shaped cigar, whether it
be a bellicoso, a torpedo.
And really, unfortunately,they're missing out because of
how incredible from the waythose cigars were made by the
cigar makers, the buncher, thethe roller.
It's just so it's just a specialsize.
But thanks for showing that ourviewers how to properly cut.
SPEAKER_00 (04:17):
Yeah, I think it's just so important.
You know, we smoke cigars, weenjoy them, people spend a lot
of money on them.
How can we make them moreenjoyable?
And I think a podcast like thisis essential for all the smokers
out there to learn.
Whether you've been smokingcigars for four days or 40
years, it's always good to havereally good technique.
And one of the things that'salways bothered me is how people
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cut and light cigars and thehurry they have.
Why do we smoke cigars?
We sit down, we enjoy, we drinkour favorite beverage, whether
it be alcohol or non-alcoholic,we take our time, but everybody
is in a massive hurry to cut andlight their cigars.
And if you do it and you're in ahurry, like anything, you're
probably going to do itimproperly.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
Yeah, no doubt.
No doubt.
And I think the next thing weI'd like to go into is, you
know, we have a couple ofdifferent other colors too, is
I'd like to talk about the Vcut.
And if you could show us andtalk a little bit about a V cut,
you know, pros and cons, and ifyou can show how it looks.
SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
Well, the V cut, what I like about it is when you
put it over the cigar, you youbasically have a jig that's set
up for you.
Sure.
And I like this deep cut fromCalibri a lot.
So when you cut it, you're goingto get that deep V cut, but also
you're going to get pieces oftobacco, which I don't like.
And you put a lot of pressure onthe head of the cigar.
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So what happens is there'salways going to be small
particles of tobacco underneathbecause of how deep it cuts.
So it's not my favorite.
I don't say it's wrong.
If you like a V-cut, that'sgreat.
Everything's optional and on thetable, but I prefer the flat
cut.
But the V-cut does work verygood, but it does have
settlements of tobacco on thebottom.
(05:53):
So it's it would be my secondfavorite, right?
To be quite honest with you.
SPEAKER_01 (05:57):
Yeah, no doubt.
I'm I agree with you 100%.
And the last cut I would say isthe is the punch cut.
And I don't think it's aspopular as it used to be.
I remember as a kid, I'd see alot of people with the punch
cuts always on the keychains andsure.
And I don't think it's like thatanymore.
I think more people gravitatedtowards the straight cut, even
the V cut.
But just for showing ouraudience and talking about and
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explaining the pros and cons, ifyou could, and show and talk
about it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:22):
The only pro that I see on the on the bullet or the
punch cut is that you it'seasily you can put it in your
pocket, you can put it on akeychain.
If you look at the cigar, whenyou push down on the cigar on
the head, you're putting a lotof pressure, right?
Right.
So if you're pushing down onthis cigar with the with the
punch cut, you're really puttingpressure on the head of that
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cigar.
And then when you pop it out,you gotta lift up the cap
sometimes.
It depends on how good thecutter is.
Right.
And what you do is you get thistiny little hole.
What I don't like about thepunch cut is that that hole, you
have a concentration of smokenow.
Because remember, you don't havea clean cut.
You still have you still havethe cap all the way around that
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that hole.
So what happens is when yousmoke, the temperature increases
quite a bit because of the caparound it still being whole.
You have a much smaller surfaceof smoke, so I think the cigar
is going to burn hotter.
I don't think you're gonna beable to taste the complete blend
because it's so concentrated.
And as you continue smoking,saliva is gonna build up in the
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front of it.
So it's not my favorite.
But then again, smoking issubjective.
If you like it, then that'sgreat.
It just happens to be my leastfavorite of the three cutters.
SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
Well, if you were to recommend it or if somebody was
like, Well, I kind of is there aspecific ring gauge that you
would say it works better, is itbetter for smaller cigars or
bigger cigars?
SPEAKER_00 (07:49):
I definitely think it's better for smaller cigars
because you have such such smallcircumference around that little
hole that the smaller the headof the parallel cigar is, the
better the the bullet cut wouldbe.
But again, dollar for dollar,I'm taking a flat guilt
guillotine cut all day long.
That's my favorite, but doesn'tnecessarily mean it's everybody
else's favorite.
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
So it's objective.
Well, it means a lot becauseit's coming from you and and
somebody who designed cigars andhow you make cigars in terms of
how you position the leaves fromthe bunch of the cigar.
You're the master.
And so I think it really comesacross as very educational.
I think it's important that youexplain this.
And I'm glad we did this andtalked about this.
I think the next subject isgoing to be on how to light a
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cigar.
SPEAKER_00 (08:30):
And so and the lighting of the cigar is is so
important too, because whathappens is everybody knows what
a tobacco leaf looks like.
So the tobacco leaf has tip.
It has a tip all the way in thefront, it circles around as a
leaf.
And when the cigar roller makesthat cigar, the most valuable
flavor characteristcharacteristic of that leaf is
really in the mid part of theleaf, all the way to the tip.
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And the reason it's so importantis because that leaf has the
most sun exposure, regardless ofits position.
And we'll go into position andprimings in future podcasts.
But what happens is the thosetips, when the cigar roller
makes a cigar, whether it's afive, six or a seven-inch cigar,
he always takes his thumb a halfinch behind the bunch because
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he's going to have to pre-cutthe bunch a half inch longer.
The reason is, is if not, everycigar would have a soft spot in
the front.
So you'd have more structuralrigidity if you if you cut it a
half inch, so it's it's nice andtout from the beginning all the
way to the end, the way thecigar should be.
So with that being said, theytake the tips and they line them
in the front.
(09:33):
The reason we do that is so youcan taste flavor from beginning
to end.
And what people do is they takethe cigar and they sit there and
torch the cigar.
It's just it's crazy sometimes.
And what they're doing isthey're they're burning the tips
of those tips of the tobaccothat are lined up in the front
of the bunch, and they build allthis carbon buildup.
And you'll see the wrappers willhave all this soot on the side,
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and it's to do it fast.
The first thing you have to dowhen you light a cigar is you
have to toast a foot.
And what I mean by toasting thefoot is the wrapper is the leaf
on the outside, and underneaththe wrapper is the binder, and
the binder is what holds theblend.
Right.
So, what we want to do is wewant to seal that binder and the
wrapper into that binder.
So basically, the cigar doesn'thave any accelerator, so we want
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to use kind of a gauge.
So we use the top of the band,and when we finish toasting the
cigar, well, of course, the topof the band should be on top
because it's a 360-degreeradius.
So we call it lighting a cigar,not torching a cigar, right?
So the hottest part of thelighter is just above.
So if you look when I go here,you'll notice that you get a
little amber light.
And as I'm turning, the lightkeeps keeps going.
(10:41):
And every time I see that littleamber light, I keep turning
until I get all the way around,till I get to the top of that
cigar.
So if you look, you'll noticethat it starts smoking, but at
the same time, there's no sooton the wrapper because what I
did is I toasted the end of thatwrapper through the heat of the
lighter to seal that wrapperinto the binder.
What's going to happen is you'renot going to have flaking and
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you're going to have bettercombustibility once you learn to
light.
Now, when you light the cigar,you're doing it the same way.
The only difference is nowyou're going to actually put the
cigar in your mouth and lightit.
So, same thing.
I'm going to keep, you'll seethe lighter will be underneath
the cigar quite a bit, butyou'll see the heat rise and do
it.
So I'll show you.
(11:31):
And when I'm done, I have thisbeautiful orange amber light on
the bottom.
And basically what I did is Ilit my cigar.
And it takes about 15 extraseconds.
But one thing that I guaranteeis you'll have a better burning
cigar, you'll have a much moreenjoyable smoking cigar
experience because you didn'tchar any of it.
There's really no carbon buildupbecause you lit your cigar
correctly.
(11:52):
And I think these things arejust so important because if you
don't toast a foot first, you'renot going to get that wrapper
sealed into the binder.
That's the first thing.
You got to make sure that yourotate that cigar all the way
around in a 360-degree radius.
That way you make sure that youproperly light that cigar
completely around.
And then you got to light thecigar correctly.
(12:13):
And I think it's going to be, Iknow for sure, you'll have a
much more enjoyable experience.
You will have much lessrelights.
And that's what we're here tosmoke cigars, really to enjoy
them, right?
SPEAKER_01 (12:22):
Yeah, 100%.
And it's important.
And you know, telling thecustomers and showing our
retailers, our consumers that weline the cigar from right when
they right when they light thecigar with the most flavorful
part of the leaves, in terms ofthose tips, right from the foot.
And we line that entire cigar upall the way.
So from beginning to end, youget all those flavors.
(12:44):
But how you start, I guess, isreally how you finish.
So if you start correctly interms of how you light the
cigar, and prior to that, howyou cut the cigar, you're going
to have maximum enjoyment.
SPEAKER_00 (12:53):
Yeah, just envision a wrapper being a glass tube,
and you have your your bunch andyour fillers and your blend
inside, and you're taking alighter and you're doing this to
it.
Right.
That light is going to go inthere and it's going to go into
that that heat, you're actuallyscorching a cigar a half inch
in, and all those tips and allthat flavor now are getting
scorched.
It's almost like taking a pieceof steak with a with a welder
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and welding on top of the steak.
You're you're just you're justcharring it for no reason.
You're not going to get anythingout of it.
So it's important to reallylearn how to cut and light the
cigar correctly.
And I've been really adamantabout it.
I think a lot of people haveappreciated, and I hope I hope
people learn from this.
SPEAKER_01 (13:31):
So, Dad, we just finished talking about cutting
and lighting a cigar.
So, my next question is, andyou've been talking about this
for a long time, is why shouldyou not remove the band of a
cigar?
SPEAKER_00 (13:42):
Yeah, it's a great question.
And it's kind of funny when Italk to consumers around the
world on why they shouldn't takethe band off.
They assume that I'm tellingthem not to take the band off
because I want them for peopleto see the cigar.
And then in the instance, yeah,it's true.
But in reality, the reason Idon't want them to take the band
off is when the operators thatput the bands on, they do it all
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by hand at our factory, andwe've all seen that.
So they take a little piece ofthe pectin on their fingertips
and they put it down on theband.
Some of it could touch thewrapper.
Right.
It's only natural.
So what happens is if you pullthe the band off, what'll happen
is you put a lot of stress onthe wrapper because you're
pulling the wrapper up.
And you can imagine when we rollthat cigar, we roll it out as
thin as we possibly can, almostto a to an instance of being
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like an onion skin.
It's that, it's that, it's that,it's that thin, right?
So it's going to cause problemsif you pull that band off.
And that's sometimes that's whenyou'll see little stress cracks
and the cigar pops, and they goto the retailer and complain,
oh, there was something wrongwith my cigar.
Well, it was really operatorerror from taking the band off.
And then sometimes they'll takethe band off and a piece of the
wrapper will come off when theytake the band off.
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And then all of a sudden, youreally hurt the smoking
experience.
I always recommend, I call itthe pinky rule.
You take your pinky, and justwhen you're smoking a cigar,
right when it gets a beam, youryour pinky, the width of your
pinky, what'll happen is thatcigar, the barrel will heat up,
and then that pectin will melt.
It's the same pectin we use onthe cap.
It's flavorless and odorous,it's just as it's a fruit, and
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it actually has a slightadhesive quality to it.
And we've been sealing cigarslike that since before your
grandfather was born.
But with that being said, whatit does is you'll have a much
more enjoyable smokingexperience because your cigar
will be intact.
If you cut the cigar right andyou lit it right and you're
enjoying that cigar, to take theband off and cause stress cracks
on the wrapper.
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It might not happen, but ithappens a lot.
Why take the chance?
That's why it's so important toleave the band on until you're
about a quarter inch from theband, and then it'll come off
very easily because the heatthrough the barrel by you
smoking it will melt the pect,then it'll come off much easier
if you want to take the band offwhenever you do.
SPEAKER_01 (15:48):
No doubt.
And I guess the last subject,you know, very important is I
wish I would have learned itearlier in my life, is how not
to get sick off of a cigar.
SPEAKER_00 (16:00):
Yeah, that's an important thing.
You know, it happens to all ofus.
It happens to every seasonedveteran, including yours truly.
I've I've been queasing and sicka lot of times from smoking
cigars, but I always say there'sreally five rules that I use.
The first one is, especially ifyou're new to smoking, don't
smoke on an empty stomach.
It's not a bad idea to have alittle bit of food, maybe a
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little bit of breakfast,equalizes your system, you'll be
a lot better for it.
And what happens is when yousmoke on an empty stomach, you
could get queasy.
You know, nicotine in thebloodstream, it's only a natural
thing.
It's an accelerator, it gets youexcited, builds adrenaline.
And what happens is you startgetting queasy.
Right.
The cold sweats start coming,you become pale, and then all of
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a sudden it's like the old kegparty in college.
You're running to the bathroomand and and throwing up, and
it's a terrible feeling.
So one of the things I alwaysrecommend is definitely don't
smoke on an empty stomach unlessyou're pretty much a seasoned
vet, or if it doesn't bother youfor that matter.
Second thing is cigars.
They're not cigarettes.
We enjoy them.
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It's no different than drinkingwine.
We savor the flavors in ourmouth with our taste buds.
Cigars are the same way.
Don't inhale cigars.
That's another way to rushyourself to the bathroom or to
the bushes, and when you startgetting queasy and not feeling
well, right?
Right.
You've gone through that too.
I think Arthur has.
I think all of us have.
SPEAKER_01 (17:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:26):
And you know, we talk about enjoyment on cigars.
What is the hurry?
We talked earlier about lightingthe cigar and being in a hurry.
Slow down when you're smokingyour cigar.
Take a puff every 25, 30seconds.
If you're talking a longer timeand you have to relight, no
problem.
Relight the cigar if you haveto.
We'll get into differentsegments on how to properly
relight cigars, too.
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And one of the most importantthings, and my fourth rule is
make sure your cigars are ingood condition.
And what I mean is that they'rehumidified correctly.
That's 65% humidity where thecigars are where they should be.
And what you want to do is whena cigar is properly humidified
and you're taking your time,that cigar is going to burn
slowly and you're going to enjoyit.
It's going to burn cooler.
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If the cigar is too dry, that'snot a good thing either.
Because what happens is it'slike, hey, it burns really fast.
When you puff, you're probablygetting a lot more smoke than
you normally would get becausethe tobacco is so dry.
And you're going to bring in allthese, all this amount of volume
of smoke, and it could get youqueasy because one puff could be
like three puffs, right?
SPEAKER_01 (18:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:29):
Even worse is an overhumidified cigar.
We know the fire and water don'tmix, right?
Nope.
So what happens is now you'repuffing really hard because the
cigar is wet and too humidified,and you keep puffing and puffing
and puffing.
Guess what happens?
Cold sweats, you start gettingqueasy again.
It's the same thing.
You start feeling bad.
I mean, a cigar is one of themost enjoyable experiences in
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life, but if you don't do itright, it's a fine, it's a fine
line where you come from I'mloving it, I'm enjoying life, to
man, I feel like crap, right?
So you got to be careful atthat.
And one of the things that youalso have to be careful is
alcohol consumption and caffeineconsumption, both of them.
If you're drinking a lot andyou're smoking cigars, those are
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two recipes for for getting younot to feel well.
Naturally, if you drink a lot,you're gonna you're gonna get
sick sooner or later.
But if you had smoking a greatcigar with it, it could
accelerate it too.
Also, if you're down in lots ofcoffee, caffeine and nicotine,
you're gonna be running, youknow, the the 40 in two seconds,
and it's gonna cause atremendous amount of adrenaline,
cortisol, and you're gonna havethe same thing happening to you,
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which will get you sick.
Those are my five rules not toget you sick.
SPEAKER_01 (19:38):
Yeah, no, those are great rules.
I wish I would have learned themearlier in life, would have
definitely helped me a lot.
So but yeah, I think I thinkthis is all incredible content
that we've been talking about,and I think one of the to recap,
I think Well, here's here's thequestion.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
How we had talked about it earlier today.
How do we avoid if we do getsick and we get queasy, how do
we how do we fix it?
So I'm gonna ask you thatbecause I think you know that.
So I'm gonna ask you a question.
Okay.
And tell me how we do it in theprofessional way, where we do it
in our facilities, whether it beour rollers, our sorters, or
selectors, what do we do when weget queased and we're sitting
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around in a tasting panel andwe've smoked these cigars and
we've been blending them andwe're trying to get the perfect
cigar out there and we'reforecasting tobaccos.
What do we do?
SPEAKER_01 (20:25):
Well, I think the biggest thing is is, you know,
because when the nicotine doesget in your bloodstream, it does
send a fake signal to your brainthat you have you're low on on
your blood sugar.
So that's where the queasinessand all that starts getting
getting into it.
So sometimes when I'm smoking acigar, even though I've eaten, I
always take a little piece ofchocolate, a little piece of
candy, something with a littlebit of sugar, just in case if I
(20:47):
know I'm gonna be smokingthrough, you know, four or five
plus cigars in the day, just tohave a little bit of extra
sugar.
So just when when I do havenicotine and quite a bit of
nicotine in my bloodstream, Idon't want I don't want that
fake signal.
SPEAKER_00 (21:00):
Okay, you're spot on.
That's what we do.
Even when we're when you see ourpeople in our sorting and
selecting rooms who don't evensmoke cigars, they'll get queasy
because of the powerful aromasthrough fermentation.
We all love the smells, butimagine being in those rooms for
a couple hours and smellingthose.
You know, they get their breaks,they go outside, get fresh air,
(21:20):
but those aromas and those oilsand resins, they dissipate
through the air.
And they're I love them.
I could I could sleep there, butsome people it it it gravitates
and starts making them feel alittle bit feel a little bit
queasy.
So we always have little sugarpackets, mints, little pieces of
chocolate all on the tables.
You'll see even on in on therolling rooms.
The only time we allow any foodproduct there, and that's in
(21:43):
case they get a little queasy todo it.
So yeah, that's a great point.
I think people are interested,hey, well what happens if I do
get sick?
Is there a quick way I can fixmyself?
Yeah, I think sugar is one ofthe things.
One of the things I hate issugar, but I try if I'm gonna
get queasy, I'm I'm all over itbecause it's important.
SPEAKER_01 (21:57):
Yeah, of course.
And you know, I guess tying thisall up and looking back at
everything how to properly cutand light how to properly cut
and lighten the cigar you knoweverything all the different
things we just talked about Ithink the word that comes to
mind is patience andunfortunately it's sad because
we get into the groove we becomethis becomes a habit for us in
terms of smoking cigar every daybut sometimes I tell myself
(22:20):
because you've taught me overthe years so much hey just take
your time enjoy it and eventhough I'm in the office and
we're working and I'm trying todo my my work and I want to
smoke a cigar you know I findmyself sometimes rushing.
But in reality what a this is aproduct you can never you have
to be patient.
SPEAKER_00 (22:38):
A hundred percent like what do we do at the end of
the evening if we all gettogether like a lot of times we
went we went out to dinner lastweek with the guys we all sit
down we take our time we cut ourcigar we toast the foot we light
it correctly all our guys do itcorrectly because they're in the
industry it's always enjoyable alot of times I'll see guys have
to relight all these cigarsthey're smoking you know
(23:00):
regardless of what brands theyare and a lot of it has to do
because they improperly cuttheir cigar they properly they
improperly lit it they didn'tlight it correctly and they have
to go back and when you have torelight cigars nonstop over and
over again you're building morecarbon buildup and it becomes
foul.
So my whole thing about thislesson here that we talked about
is how can we make the smokingexperience so much more
(23:22):
enjoyable and I think all thethings we talked about make it
much more enjoyable.
SPEAKER_01 (23:26):
Yeah take your time be mindful of what you're doing
especially you know these thesecigars you know they cost money
and you put the investment in itand I think at the end of the
day it's all this conversationbetween you and I to talk to our
consumers to talk to ourretailers is to make them
mindful of hey you know we makethese cigars we want you to
enjoy these cigars and thesesteps that we that you
(23:49):
specifically have talked aboutand we've discussed is the way
to do it.
SPEAKER_00 (23:53):
100% and I love when and we all do we love when
people enjoy our cigars and Ithink by doing these things that
we talked about like I saidearlier we'll make the smoking
experience much more enjoyableand that's what it's all about.
SPEAKER_01 (24:06):
Yeah I agree.
I agree this has been a greatshow very informative and I hope
that our listeners and ourviewers enjoy this I think this
was another great show.
I'm glad this was number two solooking forward to the next
shows.
SPEAKER_00 (24:20):
Yeah and I love it.
I love the education and I thinkthe consumers are going to love
it.
And they're getting it directlyfrom the guys that do it.
Not a guy that writes in amagazine who's been to a cigar
factory once every 10 years butsomebody who's in there every
day and that's what we do and Ithink it's important.
I hope you guys all enjoy it.
SPEAKER_01 (24:36):
I appreciate it Dad thanks so much for spending some
time with your boy it's always apleasure hanging out with you.
I love hanging out with you tooson and thank you everybody who
listened uh and watched thisshow um this was episode number
two we're looking forward tocoming out with episode number
three uh this is the Promopodcast show please like and
subscribe and we'll see you verysoon
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