The PlayFull Podcast with Kristine Michie: Bringing Fun to the Serious Work of Changing the World
Whether you’re ladling soup at a local shelter or attending a UN Peace Conference, those who devote their lives to the service of others are often exhausted and in need of a little break. Welcome to the PlayFull Podcast, bringing fun to the serious work of changing the world. I’m Kristine Michie, myself 5 decades into trying to make the world a better place. Join PlayFull as we meet movement builders from around the world and learn about the problems they’re solving, the systems they’re disrupting, and the ways they take breaks in the midst of it all.
Episodes
What if nonprofits could control, update, and reuse their information instead of repeatedly entering it into disconnected, proprietary systems? In Part 1 of this two-part episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by Liz Kane (John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation) and Amy Sample Ward (CEO of NTEN). Together, they explore how shared digital in...
In a challenging political and social landscape, how do we hold space for both unacknowledged grief and restorative joy? In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by civ...
In a world driven by economic growth, what if our true goal was cultivating ecological wealth? In this Climate Week episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by environmental justice educator and creative Isaias Hernandez (Queer Brown Vegan). Isaias, author of the forthcoming book Dear Environmentalist and creator of the web series Teaching Climate...
When a Silicon Valley data scientist realized he no longer understood his own country, he packed up, went remote, and moved from Bismarck to Biloxi to find out who his fellow Americans really ...
In a world obsessed with “scale,” what if the bravest thing a nonprofit leader can do is stay small, stay local, and get boring? In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine M...
In a time when despair is “the favorite tool of the oppressor,” how can joy, play, and rest become radical tools of resistance? In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by Jenny Black, President and CEO of Planned Parenthood of the Pacific Southwest. Together, they explore what it takes to lead one of the country’s most ten...
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by Shawn McClondon, founder of the Sister Cities Project. Together, they explore how connecting affluent and underserved commun...
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by Philip Steigman, Doris Duke Distinguished Visiting Fellow at Georgetown University's McCourt School of Public Policy. Together, they explore a critical question: why do we promote and celebrate play with babies and toddlers – and then systematically squeeze it out of school and other places...
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by Merle McGee and Chandanie Orgias to explore how joyful, everyday gatherings can rebuild trust, spark civic imagination, an...
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by Chip Conley, author, hospitality pioneer, and founder of the Modern Elder Academy (MEA). Together, they explore treating your 40s, 50s, and 60s (and beyond) as the start of a vibrant "second adulthood." Chip reveals how pairing wisdom with a "wise beginner's" mind creates room for personal flourish...
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by Brian Schaefer, a cultural journalist, former dance critic, and author of the debut novel Read more
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie is joined by JD Schramm, an expert in communication and storytelling for nonprofit and philanthropic leader...
In this special episode of The PlayFull Podcast, we’re revisiting a conversation between Kristine Michie and Nikki Dinh, Iman Mills Gordon, and Ericka Stallings...
In this special episode of The PlayFull Podcast, we’re revisiting a powerful conversation between Kristine Michie and equity and workplace strategist Aparna Rae...
In this rewind episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie speaks with Center for Effective Philanthropy CEO Phil Buchanan about how trust-based philanthropy, moral responsibility, and resilience support the nonprofit sector. They discuss challenges like funding cuts and rising demand, and the need for intentional donor investment in both people and programs. Part of the YTD – Best of 2026 ser...
In this special episode of The PlayFull Podcast, we’re revisiting one of our most popular episodes. Kristine Michie sits down with poet, lawyer, and advocate Re...
In this episode, Kristine talks to Jeremiah Lee and Evan Prodromou of the Interledger Foundation and Social Web Foundation to explore how to shift power away from g...
In Part 2 of Kristine’s conversation with Shawn Dove, founder of the Corporation for Black Male Achievement and Managing Partner at New Profit, they explore h...
In Part 1 of this 2-part episode, Kristine Michie sits down with Shawn Dove, an emerging elder leader and champion of Black Male Achievement, to discuss what it takes to unfreeze joy, imagination, and leadership. Shawn shares how his journey, from a childhood game of freeze tag to maintaining 37 years of sobriety after overcoming deep pers...
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