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March 19, 2025 81 mins

AI is learning, growing, and optimizing our world—but can it make a proper peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Jim Gao joins David McCall to discuss how AI went from winning board games to optimizing data centers, why trusting AI is like supervising an intern, and how data centers might just become the next big "player" in AI’s game of efficiency.

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Jim Gao’s Company (Phaidra): https://www.phaidra.ai/

Jim Gao on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimgao/ 

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